Thursday, May 24, 2007

Don't Worry - We're PREPARED!

  • New details released on Wednesday revealed just how well prepared Chicago might be for an emergency.
  • In January, a federal report ranked Chicago ranked Chicago low among cities for disaster preparedness, but the Chicago Office of Emergency Management and Communications said a staged evacuation of more than 3,000 people from four buildings last September went well.
  • "The results of the exercise were positive," said Cortez Trotter, the city's chief emergency officer. "It was a good report."
Great. So 3,000 civilians know what to do. 3,000 people from buildings that rank kind of low on the target hierarchy if we recall. Buildings when the security guards propped open the doors and made sure there weren't any crushes of people clogging the exits. We feel much better.

By the way, has anyone gotten their updated orders on how to operate in a terror attack zone? How radio communications will operate? What will happen if a biological, chemical or nuclear device is detonated? How gang, tact or incident teams will be mobilized? Whether or not Detectives will be put in uniform and if they will be used in a support capacity for the Feds?

Remember, it isn't feasible or necessary to train every first responder according to an exempt patrolman. All the bosses know exactly how to deploy coppers instantly. In most cases, they were BORN to command.

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72 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Department (and city) is clueless on this. Let's say that you are RDO when something big happens. Does anyone know where to go? Who to report to? Do we just go to our units? So we are all passing each other on the way north or south or east? Does everyone have a functioning gas mask? Is the one that you have rated for chemical or biological agents? How about something as simple as getting everyone into uniform? Does every plainclothes officer (dicks, specialized units) have a uniform handy? Duty rig? I can tell you that they do not. Should but don't. Maybe if the worst happens that will be the least of the worries, as it should be, but it is an indication of a larger problem. What about communications? The other night I needed 3 batteries to get through a tour. Can't keep charged batteries, and we are supposed to be able to talk across the city? The powers that be can spin it all they want in an attempt to convey a false sense of security to the public, but if we get a 9-11 or a dirty bomb, we are fucked. God bless every single police officer and firefighter who died on 9-11, but quite a few of those heroic men and women died because no one could get through the radio system to tell them to get out. One would hope that someone would learn from those experiences and make some changes or some improvements. But I haven't seen it. Maybe there's an order, and if so, can someone tell me the order number?

And that bullshit evacuation? Ok, good, 3000 prewarned people exited their buildings. Very impressive.

This is scary shit. It should be taken more seriously.

5/23/2007 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous the cromagnon said...

Remember the poster from the Cold War era for when the "BOMB" went off: Bend over and kiss........

5/23/2007 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many people are trained as Critical Incident Response Team officers? Oh that's right SOS is trained in CIRT. Guys are bailing out of there as fast as they can and taking their training with them. When is the last time they even trained? What about the first responders? You know the beat cars, first to go last to know. CFD hit it right on the head we are the blue canaries.....Keep drinking the kool-aid!!!

5/23/2007 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we are fucked!

5/23/2007 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last time I looked in the trunk it was still empty.

5/24/2007 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"How gang, tact or incident teams will be mobilized?"

On Sedgeways of course down our fine rubber sidewalks.

5/24/2007 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You all have your Avon gas masks and NBC rated filters right???

5/24/2007 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

During any terrorist attack Inspectors will be checking to make sure you wearing your hat and nightstick.

5/24/2007 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

do you guys remember 9/11 it took 4 to five hours to clear the loop , brought in recruits to direct traffic, this wasn't even an attack , so TROTTER , A TRAFFIC JAM- /5 HOURS TO CLEAR / NO FIRES, NO INJURES, NO DISASTER , JUST TRAFFIC.... WE ARE NOT PREPARED..

5/24/2007 03:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"By the way, has anyone gotten their updated orders on how to operate in a terror attack zone"?

Yes, I've had mine for sometime now.

1) Get an Event # for a terrorist suppression mission.
2) Locate helmet and gask mask. Damn, which canister goes on? I was sleeping at that point of the instruction. Damn, can I wear the mask with the outside vest cover or just the helmet?
3) Get vehicle and meet at command van. Damn, all the vehicles are taken because they had a field trip for the seniors today.

Ok, no problem, I'll sit at the desk and do a pod mission, and locate the terrorist and report any suspicious activity. Ok, there's a guy,hmmmm,what's he doing?...hmmm...
Squad, notify the commmand van about this guy that's...what? No one is available cause we have a back log? Damn, look at the time, it's school dismissal time, damn.

Squad? Squad? Chirp..Chirp..damn..my batteries are out of power...Ok, no problem, I'll just go and ask the newly promoted Lt. who did so well on the test the 2nd time around what to do. Lt.? Lt.? Anyone see the newly promoted Lt.? He's where?
He went on the field trip too? Ok, I'll mobilize a team myself,from the platoon of officers working upstairs at their inside jobs. What? Their still on lunch? It's been 2+ hrs. No one gets a two hr. lunch do they?

Damn....

5/24/2007 05:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how about the flower pots dilly daley put all over the city and the traffic gridlock that they cause. I can see emergency vehicles stuck in traffic now, with sirens wailing, unable to get around the other vehicles that have nowhere to go.
We see it everyday on cicero ave., by midway airport. When a train goes by 55th st., just east of cicero, its a parking lot fiasco.

Michigan ave is just as bad. I hope that stuttering midget gets a chest grabber and the ambulance gets stuck, hemmed in on a flower-potted street. Talk about poetic justice!

5/24/2007 05:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For your information those city flower pots have survival supplies hidden under them. Spare radio batteries and gas masks also.

5/24/2007 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets see cortez did not finish high school got his GED good enough diploma no college but the westside ministers coalition got him promoted as they scared daley as usual! What will I do? get the hell out of dodge with my family we have no masks no plan just a bunch of clouted assholes in charge with no skill or experience! Our radio systeim is shit our commnad van is more like a 1970's type of party van, the district went out as power was out and that was a minor "glitch", with asshole daley at the helm and his crew of theives we are fucked! as Curly on the 3 stooges used to reply when Moe said "all for one and one for all", Curly replied "Hey I am for myself", good thinking! Run Forest Run! Protect your family and help get as many coppers to go the other direction as you can! Unless we have proper equipment it would be suicide!

5/24/2007 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

During the Evacuation Drill, the civilian participants were given goodie bags. I think it had a t-shirt and a bottle of water. That was good thinking, you can put the t-shirt over your nose and mouth and wash the dust out of your eyes with the water.

Did the civilians have a plan; it was get out of work early, go home or go shopping like they always do

Did anyone see what the coppers had, fluorescent traffic vests, no masks, no water and no real plan what to do except smile for the TV cameras.

Under the seat of every member of the Congress and Senate, it a pop-can sized container. It holds an emergency escape hood. This is a device that someone can pull over their head and it would hold enough air hopefully to escape the building. It would not surprise me if the same were true at City Hall. In other words, the politicians have made provisions for their escaping a terrorist attack; but not for the poor cops they expect to save their asses.

5/24/2007 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you seen our new multi-million$$ brain center down on the 5'th floor of the puzzle palace yet?

I drove down there, in my squad with 150,000 miles on it, for the training on how swell and needed they were. For 30 mins I sat there and watched all these clout kids, with 6 mos in patrol and 5 years on, sit around and watch TV and play computer games.

I had to get up and leave, once again totally stunned by this chickenshit outfit.

5/24/2007 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boy imagine if they hit at 3 pm on a Friday?

5/24/2007 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If there is a terrorist incident, remember that any department member is authorized to initiate a PLAN

5/24/2007 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember a while ago, the Tribune showed that qualifications and training of the ten top emergency response people in this city. Not one had a degree in anything close to being useful. Only one was in a program working towards a degree. Cortez--or Otis if you prefer--Trotter replied that he got his training through in-service and on-the-job training. By the way, Trotter was the only head of an emergency department in a major city who did not have a degree or was close to a degree. While I am not the biggest fan of college work, I think that at least it shows a willingness to learn.

5/24/2007 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man SCC, some days you hit the nail right on the head. This is the kind of stuff I like to see versus the rumors that get generated here.

So that being said here is what I know...not a lot. I have been to TARA, I have gas mask training (mostly remembered from the Marines), they taught me how to wear my BDU's and I have been to Hazmat training that's about it. I do a lot of reading about terrorism and what to look for to prevent attacks but have never been trained by this department on how to respond to one with the exception of watching a streaming video on how to respond. That really stuck too, might I add. Boys and Girls, all I can say is when we get hit here, and we will, you do what comes naturally to the real police. You do everything in your power to help. Be overly precautious as far as your own safety goes. You aren't sure if there is toxic gas, wear your mask... large canister, small is only for OC. Building looks unstable, get yourself and as many civilians as possible away from it and let the firefighters know your concerns so they don't walk into a falling building. You see what looks like a bomb, assume that it is and stay the hell away from it. Don't go over and pick it up, like that goof in Vegas. Use the common sense that the man up stairs (no not the supe...the real man up stairs} and do your best. Be safe and use good tactics.
Da Sarge.

P.S. more stuff like this SCC. This is what we need. Not the rhetoric some of the goofs post on here.

5/24/2007 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We all know what to do.

Cry like a little girl
and run!

The flower pots are part of the response plan.
Put all DOA"s in the nearest pot and act like nothing happened. This way the Olympic committee wont know anything is wrong. If they ask about the damaged buildings, tell them it is demolition to begin building the Olympic venues.

5/24/2007 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous junebug and black dogg said...

As y'all can read in the newspapers, we have zero tolerance for double parkers in the 9100 block of S. Chappel.

5/24/2007 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TARA unit is training department personnel on how to be prepared.

Yeah right!

5/24/2007 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When will you people learn the emergency response personnel and the general population will always be acceptible collateral damages, probably why no one as of yet has the city emergency evac plans.

5/24/2007 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tomcat says Doooon't Yoouu Beeliieve iiit!

5/24/2007 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic...

On WGN-TV News at Noon.

Ron Huberman anounces CTA pension and medcial care "reforms."

Look out CTA employees, Richie's henchman is out to screw you in favor of campaign contributors.

Don't forget you have the right to strike.

5/24/2007 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just read that CTA President Hubberman is taking an ax to them in an attempt to balance their budget.

How about Kruze paying back his 6 figure "Golden Parachute" that Daley gave him last year?!

Last week at a CTA meeting, Hubberman proposed that Police "No longer ride for free"..

and the Great Empire slides closer to irrelevance!

5/24/2007 12:25:00 PM  
Blogger Chris P said...

"By the way, has anyone gotten their updated orders on how to operate in a terror attack zone"?

I imagine you'll operate the way you always do: rush in with little or no information given to you. Like always, you'll be the "little blue canaries" for the hazmat teams.

5/24/2007 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our biggest downfall will be our inability to communicate with other responding jurisdictions as well as fire and USAR. We don't have radios that can do that type of cross-comm. All suburban departments can, Cook County can, ISP can but the third largest department in the country cannot.

Unless of course, the flower pots are emergency beacons...sorry, we'll be OK.

NIMS McGhee

5/24/2007 12:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the plan is to piss away the federal money in a way that enriches those connected and then in the event of an attack daley will say something like "who could have forseen or prepaired for an event of this magnatude....nobody, thats who....thats just silly, silly. god bless all those brave men and women on the police & fire departments who gave their lives.....they did a great job in the face of insurmountable odds".

5/24/2007 12:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I KNOW WARE TO GO WHEN SOMETHING BIG HAPPENS ITS SIMPLE IF YOU ARE RDO GRAB YOUR FAMILY LOAD THEM UP INTO YOUR CAR AND TAKE THEM AS FAR AWAY AS YOU CAN FROM THE SCENE

5/24/2007 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny shit...But also true...

Anonymous said...
"By the way, has anyone gotten their updated orders on how to operate in a terror attack zone"?

Yes, I've had mine for sometime now.

1) Get an Event # for a terrorist suppression mission.
2) Locate helmet and gask mask. Damn, which canister goes on? I was sleeping at that point of the instruction. Damn, can I wear the mask with the outside vest cover or just the helmet?
3) Get vehicle and meet at command van. Damn, all the vehicles are taken because they had a field trip for the seniors today.

Ok, no problem, I'll sit at the desk and do a pod mission, and locate the terrorist and report any suspicious activity. Ok, there's a guy,hmmmm,what's he doing?...hmmm...
Squad, notify the commmand van about this guy that's...what? No one is available cause we have a back log? Damn, look at the time, it's school dismissal time, damn.

Squad? Squad? Chirp..Chirp..damn..my batteries are out of power...Ok, no problem, I'll just go and ask the newly promoted Lt. who did so well on the test the 2nd time around what to do. Lt.? Lt.? Anyone see the newly promoted Lt.? He's where?
He went on the field trip too? Ok, I'll mobilize a team myself,from the platoon of officers working upstairs at their inside jobs. What? Their still on lunch? It's been 2+ hrs. No one gets a two hr. lunch do they?

Damn....

5/24/2007 05:07:00 AM

5/24/2007 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard the 8th district caps office received extra training on the mobilization of the emergency hot dog cart. Would you like extra mustard on that IED?

5/24/2007 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also on the WGN-TV News at Noon.

A New York woman has been added to the number of victims killed in the attack on the World Trade Center, in the first confirmed death from dust generated by the collapse of the twin towers.

New York City's medical examiner determined this week that Felicia Dunn-Jones' exposure to dust on September 11, 2001, "contributed to her death" five months later."

Check-out www.WTCSICK.com for more information on how Civilians, NYC Firefighters and Police Officers are being denied benefits after coming down with cancers and lung ailments from breathing the air around Ground Zero.

Can we depend on Richie to do more for us and our families after a terrorist attack if we can't depend on him to prepare us before. The only thing we can depend on is the he will have his hired truck build a monument.

5/24/2007 03:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First off CPD does not have any search and rescue, or recovery. NYPD ESU is trained in urban SaR,R and are SCBA certified. SOS is not trained nor prepaired for anykind of attack becaues they are not equipt or trained to do anything but drive around in circles in the "violence area".

When all hell broke loose at 500 W. Madison when that active shooter killed the 3 lawyers the SOS cars were told to hold their position in whatever district they were in only SWAT and SORT were allowed to respond. At that time no one knew if the shooter was acting alone, if he had a bomb or anythign like that. The 1st district commander superceeded the SOS command and sent Tact teams from the area to search the floors, When SOS was finally given the order to get on scene they stood around with their thumbs up their asses. Their was no chain of command and no direct communication to anyone. Sgts and LT's were as confused as lost as the blue shirts. This incident is just an example of how one individual with a motive, intent and the means to carry out his plan can confuse and confound the emergency services of the second largest city in America.

TRU which is the size of a small police department itself is just as unequipt and un-prepaired as SOS. Most of the guys in SOS that are supposed to have CIRT gear and gas masks dont carry them in the cars because... well i dont know why. They dont practice for quick mobolization and rapid response. Instead of making them drive around in their little box how about gettting some guys up their that are motivated, not connected, or on bullshit, dont mind training and make them into what a REAL Special Operations Section is supposed to be. If the average citizen knew how fucked they are when the shit really hits the fan around here they might start asking questions and make little dick accountable for the shortcommings of his police department because its THEIR lives on the line.

5/24/2007 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Captian Mary Rosell for Superintendent!! i think that would be great we could watch the city burn as Mary attacks all PO's who do police work then lets all the criminals run free!! What a mentally retarded bitch, how is she a captian? my god what is wrong with the people in charge ? They need to look into her stupidity and lauch her ass far away, she should be locked up for her crimes against the police. and if i ever have to hear her f'ing voice on the radio cutting people off with dumb bullshit asking if there was a shooting an hour after it happened im gonna throw my radio out the window, stop playing on the internet, and harassing officers on arrests with ur gay sidekick Sgt G.C. and pay attention to the radio....sounds like they handed a hype a radio and said ur 799. what a waste of money!!

5/24/2007 06:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you put a #7 on race code for the contact card, it is a secret code for terrorist suspect and will be forwarded to the fusion center. Shhhhhhhhh.

5/24/2007 06:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey...I believe the City Council some years ago declared Chicago a Nuclear Free Zone, so what's the worry?

5/24/2007 07:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, shhhhh, quiet,,,,here's the plan.

Have an outdoor roll call at State/Madison.

Put on your gas mask with, THE BIG FILTER. This way, you can still breath as your skin peels away.

Meet at the Bean in Grant Park. You all laughed when we built it, but it's really a space ship. Really, it opens up, and Gort the robot will come out. All of us in unison will say, "Gort! Klaatu barada nicto!" Ok? Got that? again, Gort! Klaatu barada nicto!"

Then, Gort will save the day, and you all thought we were unprepared. Now remember shhhh....

5/24/2007 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard the 8th district caps office received extra training on the mobilization of the emergency hot dog cart. Would you like extra mustard on that IED?

5/24/2007 01:32:00 PM

funny stuff

5/24/2007 07:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone hear the rumor that they are not going to let the police ride the bus for free anymore... huberman is changing that policy in the next month or two....anyone else come across this info?

5/24/2007 08:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

UMMMM...I dont even have a gas mask or was issued one... is that a bad thing??

5/24/2007 08:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real question should be, Where is the money being spent? I am sure Chicago get's funding from the federal gov. to train and equip us in case of an attack, well where the hell is the money going?We sure aren't getting the training and equipment.

5/24/2007 08:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC: With all the problems facing the city, the newly constituted city council's so called black caucus wants to get right to problem number #1.

Investigating the now defunct special grand jury that investigated the 20 years old Burge administration of area 2.

This bevy of morons and shake down artists will scream and shout about Lt. Burge to occupy the child like attention span of the fools who elected them, while each and every one of them will enrich themselves at the public money pot.

Life goes on.

5/24/2007 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few questions from a concerned citizen to the Real Police who have obviously given a lot of thought to these issues-

-Does Chicago utilize the CERT (Civilian Emergency Response Team)concept? There is federal grant money available for this. Interested community members get trained in first aid, SAR, disaster response, etc. I don't think anything would preclude sworn officers and their families from taking this training, even if it was offered only by suburban or outlying first responder agencies/fire departments, etc.

- For major emergency use only, could an interested officer purchase and keep in their car trunk their own protective mask and related MOPP gear, and related articles that they know work properly and know how to use?

- Rechargable batteries for portable, two way radios are not overly expensive. Could one not keep a couple of new "reserve" batteries in one's bag, charged and ready to use?

- Could relevant training be taken on one's personal/vacation time? I knew an officer who did this, and went to an excellent WMD response course sponsored by the USG.

You shouldn't have to use your own time and money to address these issues, but it's better than the alternative of hope for the best.

Comments?

5/24/2007 09:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Have you seen our new multi-million$$ brain center down on the 5'th floor of the puzzle palace yet?

I drove down there, in my squad with 150,000 miles on it, for the training on how swell and needed they were. For 30 mins I sat there and watched all these clout kids, with 6 mos in patrol and 5 years on, sit around and watch TV and play computer games.

I had to get up and leave, once again totally stunned by this chickenshit outfit.

5/24/2007 08:31:00 AM"

Wow...how completely innacurate and jaded. What you are talking about is a "fusion center," there were already over 3 dozen of them up throughout the US prior to CPD getting on board.

They were a recommendation post-9/11 and are supported by DHS. It took a while for CPD to get one, but now we do.

Its a step in the right direction, unless you think 24-7 monitoring of violent crime, potential terorist incidents and critical incidents such as haz-mats etc. is a waste of time... or the ability to share and get information with the G, suburbs, other states and the troops on the street in real-time is a bad idea. Or the ability to simultaneously talk to CPD and CFD via radio, or monitor all CPD and OEMC cameras or...

For the record yes I work there, yes I have more than five years on, yes more than 6 months of it were in patrol, and I was asked to go, not arranged to go by a phone call.

I really do love some of the people on this blog...Lets complain about how we are not prepared (I agree we need more training throughout the department), and then when something comes along that is one of the top recommendations to help prevent or mitigate terrorist or other critical incidents, then lets attack it in its infancy.

As far as "computer games" and "watching TV" are concerned- I for one am too busy to play any games, and besides all screens are monitored- so that is a blatant falsehood, as far as TV is concerned- yes CLTV, CNN, Al Jazeera and other stuff is on, and it makes sense for it to be there.
I can tell you right now that alomost every night I work non-stop from the time I get there to the time I go home, its not a cush job. Its not M-F, its a standard watch and DOG, with the added bonus of constant scrutiny. Guys and gals come in for tours and most of them get it. We have people who call us from the field with information, or call to get information. I appreciate both groups and hope it increases with time. We also get the cynical jaded guys who think any change is bad and that if it occurs in the ivory tower then it must be bad. Well I wish I could change your mind, but I know I can't, so I guess I'll just continue doing my job...

5/24/2007 09:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YUP,just keep promoting these clout heavy,dumb ass bosses and everything will be alright..lets put Maria Maher in charge of the incident and see how things will fuck up in a hurry!God bless us when the shit hits the fan!we are fucking clueless!The biggest thing is that MOST bossess are fucking clueless!Great going city of chicago for promoting these fucks who has no clue whats going on!!!

5/24/2007 09:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are prepared. No one cares. It costs money to be prepared. After the attack we can hire semi trucks to haul away the debries.

5/24/2007 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, no high school diploma, GED, no college ed and this guy is making well into 6 figures and is supposed to be our top guy for Emergency Management??? Yikes. What is Daley thinking?
God help this city.

5/24/2007 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detectives put in uniform and used as support to the Feds?? Are U Freekin Kidding? What have U been smoking Jack?

5/24/2007 10:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not much to add after reading this one. Oh wait... a couple things. Most fu#$%ng cops would piss and moan if there was mandatory crisis management training for a terrorist attack and secondly, by reading this blog, you miserable fu@#s that respond the way you do need to be put out of your misery. Try and enjoy your life and thank god you're getting 70K a year...beats 25K as a bitching whiny janitor which you should be doing. You're too fucking undisciplined to be properly trained anyway.

5/24/2007 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fusion Center-

Unless I missed it, has info every been given out in regards to what this is for and what they do? What they ned from the po's on the street? What the po's on the street can us it for? etc.

I am just a low patrolman. I miss a few rolll calls here and there. Streaming videos? Come on does anyone pay attention to them? Bosses giving info out at roll calls that is usefull?

I learned about while screwing around on the website while waiting for an arrest to get approved. From what I could see all that it tells you is the # of poeple in custody at the time in each lock up and areas. The number of people projected to be in custody at a further time. The number of people in county custody in various suburban lock ups.

It also gives a little crim data but not much. Seems a lot of things where screwed up and could not be viewed, program error?

What useful tool is this for the street level cop?

5/24/2007 11:30:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

Detectives put in uniform and used as support to the Feds?? Are U Freekin Kidding? What have U been smoking Jack?

You think detectives are going to be allowed to run an incident designated as International Terrorism?

what have YOU been smoking Jack?

5/24/2007 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anyone hear the rumor that they are not going to let the police ride the bus for free anymore... huberman is changing that policy in the next month or two....anyone else come across this info?

5/24/2007 08:31:00 PM


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I doubt he can do that. It is in our rules and regulations. The ones that have been in place since OW was in charge. It would be a bad public relations move.

5/25/2007 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Fusion Center-

Unless I missed it, has info every been given out in regards to what this is for and what they do? What they ned from the po's on the street? What the po's on the street can us it for? etc.

I am just a low patrolman. I miss a few rolll calls here and there. Streaming videos? Come on does anyone pay attention to them? Bosses giving info out at roll calls that is usefull?

I learned about while screwing around on the website while waiting for an arrest to get approved. From what I could see all that it tells you is the # of poeple in custody at the time in each lock up and areas. The number of people projected to be in custody at a further time. The number of people in county custody in various suburban lock ups.

It also gives a little crim data but not much. Seems a lot of things where screwed up and could not be viewed, program error?

What useful tool is this for the street level cop?

5/24/2007 11:30:00 PM"

First off I apologize if this is short- public forum and all. One of the major aspects is that when certain incidents occur they are monitored and any info is worked up, if anything can be useful to the street it is sent out (you have a bad guys name or nickname, it is worked up and any info, such as that said bad guy lives at XYZ, his child's mother lives at Q, and that he is known to carry a gun, etc., is then disseminated to you at a very rapid pace- i.e. "realtime."). The flipside is that information for some incidents is wanted from the P.O. on the street so that more information can be obtained for the continuing investigation, etc. They are sending some people from each watch for a familiarization trip,...volunteer- trust me- someone with questions will be welcome...

5/25/2007 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A quick comment about training- the department does need to increase it- but to be honest they have made baby steps. Say what you will abour TARA- but prior to it when was the last time you were pulled out of the district for a week to get trained? I have been through it and talking with other people most people I know felt that they at least learned some things relevant to the job.

The department has also been offering free firearms training at the academy through Jack Manfrey (sorry if spelling is wrong). He has some great classes and I have paind my own money to take similar classes.

Again, the department should offer more- but that is no reason not to take the initiative yourself. There are many classes out there that are free to law enforcement. Google FLETC (Federal Law Enforcement Training Center) or NW3C (National White Collar Crime Center)- there are plenty of others I'm sure. All of their classes are free. Some are local. If not you may have to pay for transport or hotel (a lot are near DC)- but a lot of bosses will be willing to let you go for training (read "in service training").

There are other classes you have to pay for- I'm sure there are more - but in Illinois I know of at least three places to take firearms or defensive tactics- Blackwater North (they took over "The Site"), Strike Tactical and Spartan Training Group.

Also don't ignore the tuition reimbursement option. The city will pay for degrees or for work-related certificates. Northwestern has a certificate in Forensic Science, and a Master's in Public Policy and Administration where you can specialize in "Public Safety and Security" (classes like "Terrorism and Public Policy")

Every year we get two furloughs- I try to have fun on one (Mexico, etc) and train on one (Blackwater, etc.). It keeps my skill level up and helps build my resume...

5/25/2007 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's say that you are RDO when something big happens. Does anyone know where to go?


Yup, I take my family and head south. If the city is not going to properly equip or train us for such an incident why would anyone do otherwise? It is obvious that our safety is not a main concern of theirs. And it is not because they dont know of the effects of such an incident. Police and fire personel are still dying from the 9/11 attacks. And even though directing traffic or any other nonsense like that would be pointless in all the panic, thats where they will deploy P.O.s regardless of the danger to them. Thats the way the city works, send in the police and fire. Our job has inherent risks as it is, and we all accepted them when we took the job. But I wont be used as an expendable pawn by these idiot bosses. I will bet they wont be at ground zero. If they show up youll be able to spot them right away, they will be the ones with the fancy gas masks and other equipment that we wont have.

5/25/2007 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5/24/2007 09:18:00 PM

if you are constantly in communication with "troops on the street," why would anyone call for information? wouldn't you have already given it?

5/25/2007 03:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With the new move to shorten words the fusion center real name is confusion center!

Under the seat of every member of the Congress and Senate, it a pop-can sized container. It holds an emergency escape hood. This is a device that someone can pull over their head and it would hold enough air hopefully to escape the building. It would not surprise me if the same were true at City Hall. In other words, the politicians have made provisions for their escaping a terrorist attack; but not for the poor cops they expect to save their asses.

5/24/2007 08:26:00 AM

We could put the zip lock bags with ties under our city councils desks that way if something happens they could affix it and it would save them from doing anything! Aw No that is what they do anyway would be more of the same!

5/25/2007 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To"
..For the record yes I work there, yes I have more than five years on, yes more than 6 months of it were in patrol, and I was asked to go, not arranged to go by a phone call...

Ok fuck wad, whats the
response plan? Oh yea, it's a secret, lose lips sink ships.
Zgo scratch you hump.

5/25/2007 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Before you train "independently" of the department remember that you are held to the training you were given/offered as a Chicago Police Officer.

We do not operate in a vacuum. If you employ "training" or "advanced techniques" you learned independently of the job you may be writing checks to people you despise.

Be smart and consult legal affairs before you want to self-medicate your career.

5/25/2007 01:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
TARA unit is training department personnel on how to be prepared.

Yeah right!

Well maybe if your dumbass stayed awake longer than the sign in portion of the class you might have retained something useful. Sudoku on dickhead!

5/25/2007 01:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The TARA program generated $53 Million of federal grant money for the city and training. So where did the money go?

5/25/2007 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The mobilization point will be downhill and downwind of the event.
Tie the dead to the street signs.
Notify the Watch Commander!

5/25/2007 09:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHAT A JOKE! PREPARED TO LEAVE THIS CRAP HOLE THEN ALL THE YUPPIES CAN SCREAM ABOUT THE BAD POLICE! KEEP BUYING YOUR MULIT-MILLION DOLLAR CONDOS DOWNTOWN ASSHOLES BUT PLEASE ASK YOU MAYOR WHY HE HAS LEFT THE CPD SO STRAPPED WITH NO EQUIPMENT AND FEW OFFICERS!

5/25/2007 11:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Well maybe if your dumbass stayed awake longer than the sign in portion of the class you might have retained something useful. Sudoku on dickhead!"

Please - staying awake wasn't the problem. Listening to non-combat Ex-Marines with two minutes on the job telling/stretching the "use of force model" when they never removed their guns from their holsters.

5/26/2007 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To"
..For the record yes I work there, yes I have more than five years on, yes more than 6 months of it were in patrol, and I was asked to go, not arranged to go by a phone call...

Ok fuck wad, whats the
response plan? Oh yea, it's a secret, lose lips sink ships.
Zgo scratch you hump.

5/25/2007 10:33:00 AM

Hey softball.. you want the response plan? I know this was tough for you with all the fantasy football leagues and the online HALO games, but try this for size. The "secret" response plan you seek is located under automated directives #GO 99-13 and training bulletin ETB 00-3. A WMD response would parallel the incidents described in here.

5/26/2007 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please - staying awake wasn't the problem. Listening to non-combat Ex-Marines with two minutes on the job telling/stretching the "use of force model" when they never removed their guns from their holsters.

5/26/2007 12:39:00 AM

I guess a killing machine like yourself working the mean streets of 019 could do a better job than those guys? The only time you've had your gun out of the holster is when you are posing in front of your mirror looking for that oh so perfect pose in the event you ever had to draw your weapon.

Curl up in a ball and cry yourself to sleep Sally. Talk is cheap and you're broke.

5/26/2007 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are so SOFT! This Dept. is geared toward answering phones and filing bullshit non-sense that nobody is going to do anything with anyway. SHOTGUNS...are you kidding me..Could you see our 4ft Females (and Males) limp wristed one and all trying to hold the beast at bay with one of those things!

We look like a bunch of dwarves out in the field with our Baseball caps on! If anyone can imagine a "race" Riot either Black or Mexican ( I dont think the yuppies will ever Riot unless the Cubs win something)! What would we do wait on the OCD or TRU or SOS the rest of the Dept. is untrained and ready to run for the hills.

We have many that fear the Media and our Dept. has not helped us in that regard. So when the SHIT breaks loose whos going to be hands on? I hope "CALL BACK" has a Tact team!

5/26/2007 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess a killing machine like yourself working the mean streets of 019 could do a better job than those guys? The only time you've had your gun out of the holster is when you are posing in front of your mirror looking for that oh so perfect pose in the event you ever had to draw your weapon.

Curl up in a ball and cry yourself to sleep Sally. Talk is cheap and you're broke.


Relax desk jockey...improve the room and don't just rearrange the furniture.

5/26/2007 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I always make sure I have a full tank of gas in the squad car, so when shit hits the fan I'll do like the coppers from New Orleans.

P.S. I have room for 3 other POs, meet me by Bourbon St.

5/27/2007 03:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they won't let us ride the busses and trains free anymore, I guess we'll just have to ticket the bus drivers for any traffic violations, like the law says. And I guess there will be less free personal security for them too.

5/27/2007 04:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
If they won't let us ride the busses and trains free anymore, I guess we'll just have to ticket the bus drivers for any traffic violations, like the law says. And I guess there will be less free personal security for them too.

5/27/2007 04:15:00 PM

Lets hope ronnie is not that stupid, even though he is dumber than a box of rocks! Where did boy wonder get his degree? The university of gotham city! He does look like batmans partner robin he even wears the tights!

5/27/2007 10:46:00 PM  

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