Nonsense Speaking
Starks appears in front of the City Council and somehow, a Burge hearing turns into a bash the CPD hearing:
- An elite Chicago Police unit dogged by complaints and at the center of a cops-as-robbers scandal "needs more supervision," a top police official said Tuesday.
First Deputy Police Supt. Dana Starks acknowledged the need to rein in members of the Special Operations Section under questioning at a City Council hearing on police torture by former Lt. Jon Burge.
Ald. Anthony Beale (9th) opened the can of worms when he called the behavior of S.O.S. officers "another form of abuse of power. ... It happened 20 years ago and it's happening today."
Um, wasn't Beale one of the "brave" aldercreatures who exercised their new found "muscle" by voting unanimously for Daley's new OPS system? How about we let this new system take hold and see what it does before beating dead horses for no apparent purpose?
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
83 Comments:
Why do people keep refering to SOS officers as "Elite", they are not.I am not bashing SOS either, I am just pointing out that they are just regular officers and that there is no special training or tactics that they receive or use. Honestly most of the guys are new to the job. This isn't like the Army or Marines, we don't have Special forces in the department. Please,you media types, stop refering to them as Elite. Unless of course your agenda demands it.
HAS ANYONE NOTICED THAT PHAT PHIL HAS NOT PUBLICLY SPOKEN IN MONTHS NOW?
WAS HE TOLD BY THE MAYOR TO LAY LOW?
he 's got to angle the gig.
PROVE THAT HES LISTENS TO WHAT THE ALDERMAN WANT.
YES SIR I WILL CRUSH CORRUPT POLICE BLAH BLAH BLAH.
HES NOT A SHOE IN IF HE HAS TO DO SPEECHES. CLINE SANDBAGGED HIM AND SENT HIM TO BE A SACRAFICE.
WATCH HIM WILLIAMS HES GONNA SCREW YOU HARD SO HIS PEOPLE GET IN.
THOSE RVERENDS BETTER START TALKING NICE ABOUT WILLIAMS PUT HIM IN A PARADE OR SOMETHING.
Put a fork in SOS-it's done!
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Is this the same "Damaging Dana" who worked in 006 tac many light years ago?
Times have changed eh Dana?
What is really scary is that they are making a comparison between Burge and SOS, thus painting an untrue and inaccurate depiction of the CPD.
We are suprised here by what???
I work in SOS and have been there for over 4 years. I understand that some of our officers broke the law and tarnished the image of the unit that I still enjoy working in. I know every single one of the guys that is involved, and I am/will be very disappointed if all of what they are accused of is true. With that being said, I have to say I'm tired of the media and everyone else bashing us, because what they are saying (today) is that it is still running rampant with corruption. I assure you it is not, was there lack of supervision on many levels from the dep chief on down, YES there was. Was getting 1500+ guns a year off the street the determining factor in letting discipline problems or allegations of misconduct go untouched, YES it was. They cared more about the numbers than the potential for disaster, which as we all know DID happen. I am proud of the LEGIT work that I was a part over the last 4 years, and I am still proud to tell people that I work there. I can't say the same for alot of my coworkers. The current commander, as nice of guy that he is, has the personality of a piece of cardboard. Which doesn't exactly work well with the current state of things, we need a strong leader to help is emerge from this desolate state. We need someone/people to stand up for those that know they are not part of problem, as we all know they are not wth us anymore, whether it be jail, other districts or resignations (take a look at the personnel order dated 17 JUL 07).
I'm not looking for sympathy or any kind of condolences, just let us do what we are doing now. GPS is like DNA, it will always come back to those that have done something wrong, if we are not in that position then we, you and the rest of the city have nothing to worry about SOS doing something wrong again.
On another note:
We are 200 PO's strong with a third of that being dedicated to to SWAT as of Yesterday. So those that say we need to split in half we don't have enough manpower to do what is asked of us from downtown.
fuck dana. he's a sticky finger do nothing copper back then and he's a dumb ass so called leader now. they stuck him with being head of caps for a reason. take the hint dana and resign.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SICK OF. FOR STARTERS, ALL THESE SO CALLED POLICE THAT I WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH. NOT ARE THEY DOG ASSES ON THE STREET BUT THEY COME TO WORK IN THESE EXPENSIVE DECKED OUT CARS WITH TINTED WINDOWS, TINTED PLATE COVERS, EXPIRED PLATES, SHIT HANGING FROM THE REAR VIEW MIRROR, NO CITY STICKER, FOP MEDALIONS ATTACHED TO THE REAR PLATE COVERING THE NUMBERS AND NOTHING IS DONE ABOUT IT. A - YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD AND B - YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE. THEN IF THAT BAD ENOUGH, THEY PULL INTO THE LOT WITH THEIR KICKA BOX AND AMP PLAYN' SOME GANGSTA RAP MUSIC INCLUDING PHRASES OF "FUCK DAT BICTH" AND " TRYING TO CATCH ME DIRTY" AND "FUCK THE POLICE" AND SO ON. HOW FUCKING EMBARASING!
Wow,
I think we can cross Thomas Belfiore of New York out as a contender. Someone,somewhere does not want this guy in Chicago.
Thomas Belfiore is learning some lessons in Chicago politics. The Chicago Tribune just went to town on him:
THOMAS BELFIORE
New Yorker steeped in internal inquiries
Tribune staff report
11:22 PM CDT, July 25, 2007
A few months after his appointment, Belfiore became embroiled in a messy dispute with Robert Iovino, a New York police captain who was involved in a fender bender with a county squad car.
Despite a field-sobriety test that indicated a blood-alcohol level of .04 percent, half the legal limit, Belfiore allegedly overruled a sergeant on the scene. From Philadelphia, where he was attending a convention, he ordered that Iovino be arrested.
The local prosecutor subsequently dropped the charges and Iovino filed a "notice of claim," a precursor to a lawsuit, that contended Belfiore himself had been drinking at the time of the incident and had told Iovino's wife—a New York police official who coincidentally also was attending the convention—that "we're going to teach Bobby a lesson."
"During these events, Belfiore continued talking to the claimant's wife until approximately 2:30 a.m. and offered to meet her for drinks at her hotel," according to the notice, a copy of which was obtained by the Tribune.
Asked for comment this week, Belfiore's office issued a statement saying the allegations were false. "We believe that is why a lawsuit was never subsequently filed," it said.
Demetrius Carney, president of the Chicago Police Board, which selected Belfiore as a finalist for the superintendent's job, said the board was aware of the allegations but discounted them because a suit was not filed.
Theodore Oshman, Iovino's lawyer, failed to return repeated calls to explain why the legal action died with the notice.
Complete Article:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-belfiore-cityjul26,1,1376518.story?ctrack=3&cset=true
Here is another slight of his command capabilities by the Chicago Tribune:
Belfiore returned to law enforcement in mid-2003 when he was named head of New York's Westchester County Department of Public Safety. There, he commands 275 officers, a far cry from Chicago's force of 12,500.
More Tainting of Belfiore by the Chicago Tribune,they make an assosciation with Howard Safir who was was mirred in a cloud of scandal:
After a year, Belfiore joined SafirRosettiok, a security and management consulting firm headed by Howard Safir, a former New York City police commissioner
The new Superintendent won't be named until the Mayor returns from Rome. It appears the Chicago Tribune is just clearing away the competition.
Chicago's next top cop must face image issue
It truly looks like Charlie Williams is getting the nod. By brining in an outsider as the head of OPS the Mayor receives a pass on passing over Thomas Belfiore.
Daley has a reputation for preferring homegrown candidates for top city jobs. When Cline was selected, the mayor passed over a senior New York City police commander from among the finalists. But Daley demonstrated last week he doesn't automatically write off outsiders when he named Ilana Rosenzweig to head the police Office of Professional Standards. Rosenzweig, a lawyer who helped handle police misconduct complaints in Los Angeles, got the nod over two undisclosed Chicago finalists.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-superintendentjul26,1,4175129.story?ctrack=4&cset=true
Cline Takes a Beating from the Chicago Tribune:
But in four years in the post, Supt. Philip Cline oversaw a drop in murders to some of the lowest levels in 40 years, a feat with which he should have been retiring with honor.
Instead, Cline's crime-fighting legacy has been marred with international coverage of videotaped beatings of civilians by off-duty officers and complaints that police have not done enough to root out corruption. Those criticisms contributed to changes in the city agency that investigates police misconduct and contributed to Cline's early retirement this summer.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-superintendentjul26,1,4175129.story?ctrack=4&cset=true
This article almost smacks of an endorsement of Charlie Williams by the Chicago Tribune:
CHARLES L. WILLIAMS
City native handled many sensitive cases
"He respects the troops. There's always naysayers, but for the most part, everybody respects him," said one source who has known him for years but asked not to be identified. "He's a fair man. He expects his people to work for him, and he expects a lot out of us. But in return he gives us a lot too."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-williams-cityjul26,1,6736693.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
Charlie the Reformer and Dean of Discipline
During 13 years in internal affairs, Charles L. Williams was known as a straightforward investigator who could be trusted with the most sensitive cases. Williams helped to take down some of the department's worst cops, including Edward "Pacman" Jackson Jr., an Austin District gang officer who was sentenced to 115 years in prison for robbing dope dealers.
He also helped investigate former Wentworth Officer Gloria Steele,convicted of feeding information on crackdowns to her drug-dealing son, and personally put the cuffs on Joseph Miedzianowski, a former officer convicted of running a major drug operation.
Charlie the Innovator
A year later, he was named the Wentworth area commander, and within three months, promoted to deputy chief of the Harrison Area patrol. There, Williams favored implementing new technologies, such as the blue-light cameras, to reduce crime, colleagues said
There are several major faults with the Chicago Tribune article:
1. Charlie spent almost 15 years in Internal Affairs not 13 years.
2. Charlie lacks a basic bachelor's degree; "According to a personal biography released by the Police Department, he is pursuing a degree in criminal justice at Chicago State University." In this day and age, a degree is a prerequisite for any manager,let alone the Superintendent of the 2nd largest police department in the United States. It shows a lack of initiative on Charlie's behalf, for failing to put the effort into achieving one. What kind of role model and message does this send to the lower ranks? Does this display the Chicago Police Department in a progressive,educated manner?
3. The Chicago Tribune failed to illustrate Charlie's disciplinary history and past problems with domestic disputes. They did however illustrate Thomas Belfiore's disciplinary/internal inquiries.
Charlie has proven his ability to be a hatchet man and tow the company man, this invariably gains him favor from City Hall.
Charlie Williams wins points for being a combat veteran of the Viet Nam War as is Hiram Grau. Thomas Belfiore does not appear to be a veteran.
Hiram Grau is the Next Superintendent of the Chicago Police Department.
I think it is self evident now after a little contemplation. Hiram is the sleeper and the obvious choice.
HIRAM GRAU
Anti-gang efforts got notice, results
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-grau-cityjul26,1,1079740.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
What are the odds now?
After today's slam you can give up on Thomas Belfiore.
Thomas Belfiore's incident with the NYPD Captain DUI/accident was highlighted on Officer.com a few years ago.
The City can pass legislation but the Lodge still has the upper hand.
Because of "past practices", which arbitrators have ruled control the disciplinary procedure, The City cannot arbitrarily change anything. The only way anything can change is if the Lodge bargins it away.
All we have to do is watch Donahue closely.
..."They will interview her, others in her building, there will be an official investigation," said police spokeswoman Monique Bond.
Bond said officers fill out contact cards only if someone is doing something wrong, such as littering, drinking in public or hanging out in a park after hours...
Could somebody please shut this person up???
Starks is so far out of the loop. He has no fuckin' clue whatsoever. SOS has been turned into the poster child for micromanagement. He obviously doesn't know that almost half the Sgts are new, as well as a good portion of P.O.'s. Nobody must have told him about the GPS in all of the cars, either. Hard to be unsupervised when you're stuck working "in the box" of the DOC area. Has he been spending too much time with the reverends and not paying attention to the department. Eunuch. Way to stand up for one of your units. Enjoy retirement assclown. It's coming soon.
Monique is wrong again. Read the story.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/484868,CST-NWS-harass26.article
How about the aldermen undergo along with their entire staffs a back ground check? How many criminals are there? We know at the top daley runs the biggest criminal enterprise in chicago history how about the rest of daley's sheep?
Monique Bond and her moronic statements again from today's Sun-Times:
The Sun-Times story ran July 19, and a search warrant for her apartment, looking for drugs, was issued three days later. About 11 police officers showed up at her door at 29th and State streets Monday.
Files misconduct complaint
Wallace said about six of the officers dumped clothes from a dresser and closet on her bed and floor and rifled through her medications. Police also told a friend at the apartment that visitors weren't allowed, she said.
Wallace filed a complaint of alleged misconduct with the Police Department's Office of Professional Standards on Wednesday.
"They will interview her, others in her building, there will be an official investigation," said police spokeswoman Monique Bond.
Bond said officers fill out contact cards only if someone is doing something wrong, such as littering, drinking in public or hanging out in a park after hours.
"It kind of serves as a warning," she said
http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2007/07/cops-make-copy-working-mans-pal-gives.html
The Working Man's Pal - God Help Us!
Anonymous said...
Why do people keep refering to SOS officers as "Elite", they are not.I am not bashing SOS either, I am just pointing out that they are just regular officers and that there is no special training or tactics that they receive or use. Honestly most of the guys are new to the job. This isn't like the Army or Marines, we don't have Special forces in the department. Please,you media types, stop refering to them as Elite. Unless of course your agenda demands it.
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Amen to that!
Not knocking SOS, I have friends in there but come on, they are not Navy SEAL's.
They are PO's, no more, no less.
Anonymous said...
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SICK OF. FOR STARTERS, ALL THESE SO CALLED POLICE THAT I WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH. NOT ARE THEY DOG ASSES ON THE STREET BUT THEY COME TO WORK IN THESE EXPENSIVE DECKED OUT CARS WITH TINTED WINDOWS, TINTED PLATE COVERS, EXPIRED PLATES, SHIT HANGING FROM THE REAR VIEW MIRROR, NO CITY STICKER, FOP MEDALIONS ATTACHED TO THE REAR PLATE COVERING THE NUMBERS AND NOTHING IS DONE ABOUT IT. A - YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD AND B - YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE. THEN IF THAT BAD ENOUGH, THEY PULL INTO THE LOT WITH THEIR KICKA BOX AND AMP PLAYN' SOME GANGSTA RAP MUSIC INCLUDING PHRASES OF "FUCK DAT BICTH" AND " TRYING TO CATCH ME DIRTY" AND "FUCK THE POLICE" AND SO ON. HOW FUCKING EMBARASING!
7/26/2007 02:24:00 AM
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And they are shocked when people try to jack them when they drive to their homes in Englewood.
Try dropping the gangster act and live somewhere decent.
Morons.
Hey SCC, how about we start to thin the Trib and Times articles here? I can put the arm on a driver if I want to read those rags.........
Don't many of you realize that the Burge issue is never going away.
To 7/26 2:24 a.m. Agree with you 200 %, Walk thru some stations and you can't tell friend from foe and I don't mean maybe there is that certain copper that has to walk the walk and talk the talk sometimes(narcotics),thought there was a G.O.about how we have to look(haircuts etc.)guess there's a double standard.
(3) little morale boosters for the day.
-This is the same Dana Starks that was taken off the streets because he stole money from "victims" when he was working in the district.
-Not all Alderman are created equal. Notice which ones keep bitching about a certain elite gang/tactical unit.
-Finally check out Riverdale P.D.'s photo of Jesse Jackson after they locked him up.
Anonymous said...
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SICK OF. FOR STARTERS, ALL THESE SO CALLED POLICE THAT I WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH. NOT ARE THEY DOG ASSES ON THE STREET BUT THEY COME TO WORK IN THESE EXPENSIVE DECKED OUT CARS WITH TINTED WINDOWS, TINTED PLATE COVERS, EXPIRED PLATES, SHIT HANGING FROM THE REAR VIEW MIRROR, NO CITY STICKER, FOP MEDALIONS ATTACHED TO THE REAR PLATE COVERING THE NUMBERS AND NOTHING IS DONE ABOUT IT. A - YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD AND B - YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE. THEN IF THAT BAD ENOUGH, THEY PULL INTO THE LOT WITH THEIR KICKA BOX AND AMP PLAYN' SOME GANGSTA RAP MUSIC INCLUDING PHRASES OF "FUCK DAT BICTH" AND " TRYING TO CATCH ME DIRTY" AND "FUCK THE POLICE" AND SO ON. HOW FUCKING EMBARASING!
7/26/2007 02:24:00 AM
Sounds like you are a bit jealous
trade in that Hyundai, gremlin that you been driving, get off of that AM radio station you been listening too, try living a little, you can always go to Auto Zone and buy you some tint for your window, that way your car will not stand out in the parking lot, take a trip to a auto shop and have a bose speaker system installed, with your next special employment check or over time check push that gremlin into the dealership and buy yourself a real car. You are probably embarassing all of your co workers with that junker that you are driving.
SOS has not been "Elite" in a long time.
The current commander, as nice of guy that he is, has the personality of a piece of cardboard. Which doesn't exactly work well with the current state of things, we need a strong leader to help is emerge from this desolate state. We need someone/people to stand up for those that know they are not part of problem
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Wrong. His job is to survive, and so is yours. You guys don't get it yet? It's every man for yourself out there. Every boss was a blue shirt one day and everyone one of them don't want to go back to that b.s. again.
The air gets thinner the higher you go. You have to keep your wits about you to continue going up. There is no going back down. If you fvck up way up there you will get squished.
I think that poor guys wakes up everyday and is just dumbfounded that he doesn't walk into an empty building. It's not fun getting handed a pile of sh!t....
Does Beale have an IR # also ?
Would it have been so hard for her to give this definition?????
...Contact Information Cards
provide a means for officers to
document encounters with
citizens that may serve a useful
police purpose, but do not
otherwise require any written
reports...
I worked in SOS for many years and can easily aver that the Elite title was removed when the Unit left Area 4 to take up residence in Homan square. With a new Sup. stepping in expect change. If you can bounce around with the pinball of change without too much whining, you'll do fine.
Expect SOS to disappear right after the new Sup. buttons his new stars on. Count on it.
Many of the peripheral unit will be disbanded as well. Gun teams, Saturation teams, intelligence teams, even the young and mighty TRU will turn in their keys and kill the lights on the way out. Refilling the districts with uniform clad bodies will soothe the eyes of citizens and blanket restless masses such as those at Durkin Park.
Change is Afoot ! JMHO
I don't care who is appointed Supt. I'm still not doing sh*t. The 1st and the 16th is all I'm interested in. I'll ride around all day long with my vest and seatbelt on, using department gas, and not seeing anything, except if my hair is out of place, then I'll re-gel.
NO! Leave them there!
did'nt starks get a GED? what high school did he attend? was it 4 years? no college working on? LOL WTF I am working on winning the lottery maybe it will happen maybe not! HEY! Now I sound like starks mr "Working on"! he bee tryin to got a diploma ands a dagreed!
I too am from SOS and have been there for 6 years.Never in my life have I stated to ANYONE that we are "elite". Some of us are hard workers who got noticed by a boss who picked up the phone and made a call to get us here. I've also seen those clout kids come into the unit who didn't even know how to do a narcotics inventory.SOS is like working on a tact team except we were in uniform 5 out of 6 days.Those of us that worked, went out into districts we didn't know and stopped every gangbager/drug dealer we saw.Most of the time our Sgt. rode with us leading the way and picking out cars/people to stop.Sure there were days when we layed low and only gave the city a 50-75% effort, but there weren't that many days that we did it.My team was there to work because it was what ALL of us like to do. I'm sure others had different motives(as we are finding out) but I can only speak for myself and my team.Those "glory" days are long gone and morale is at a all time low but consider what unit was involed in the most recent police shootings? SOS. We still enjoying being the police no matter what the Supt does to us. Some of you may think we're crazy or stupid but we didn't take this job to do nothing. If ever I get dumped I can assur you that I will continue to be what you call the working police no matter where I'm at, whether it's in a unit,district or in-house somewhere.This job is like a roller coaster,just hang on and enjoy the ride because as my Sgt once told me,"Nothing lasts forever"
What happened to hair cut standards? I was in 002 the other day and the desk guy (white) has the sides of his head shaved and a ponytail. There were two black coppers , in uniform, that had colored braids down to their asses. I got yelled at in the academy for having curls in my hair because it was "too long." My hair has always been short. What the fuck....
CAN WE PUT CAMERAS AND GPS IN "THE LADIES MAN" VEHICLE! DANA WOULD ACCEPT THAT BEING HE IS JUST ONE OF US RIGHT MR. STARKS! COULD YOUR COUSIN WHO WITH THE HELP OF THE WESTSIDE MINISTERS YOU KNOW YOUR BOYS, MAYBE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE MAJOR IDIOTS THAT ARE TSA AGENTS! LOOKS LIKE THE GD'S HAVE INFLITATRED THE AIRPORT THANKS DANA AND COUSIN DERRICK STARKS! WAIT A MINUTE WAS IT NOT DERRICK STARKS FORMER IAD SGT WHO GOT INTO A WORLD OF SHIT DAM HE IS THE SECURITY TSA DIRECTOR FOR THE AIRPORTS GOD HELP US! "HOLY SHIT BATMAN WE ARE FUCKED NOW WHAT TO DO?" "QUICK ROBIN GET ME SUPT ????? SHIT CHICAGO HAS NO LEADERS DAM IT, GET ME MONIQUE BOND AT LEAST SHE HAS SOME LIES TO TELL"!
Ever notice that cops in general are out-of-shape. Elite?? at what??
And they are shocked when people try to jack them when they drive to their homes in Englewood.
Try dropping the gangster act and live somewhere decent.
Morons.
7/26/2007 09:08:00 AM
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OOOOHHHH HHHEEEEELLLLLL NNOOOOOO!!
NNOOO HHHEEE DDIIDDNNNTTTT!!!!!!!
Maybe we should follow thier lead, how much in taxes do you think they actually pay on a $80k house, if it cost that much. You have one part right though.."GANGSTER" I GET TIRED OF ALL THE PEOPLE SCREAMING "RACIST" ON HERE BUT TURN A BLIND EYE WHEN IT COMES TO "BORN AGAIN" GANGBANGERS!! WTF!!Once a gangster always a gangster. "Oh leave brother mike alone thats just how he rolls!" Its much easier to pay for a $70k truck and rims/sounds/bling/baggy pants when you live in the ghetto to "KEEPS IT REAL" priorities my friend priorities......cool dope boy truck and clothes/chance of robbery,carjacking......regular work car or minivan in decent area/being able to walk down the street,walk your dog,sit on the porch,kids playing catch....slim to no chance of being robbed or carjacked.........
OFF TOPIC
Why is the Dept. protecting a former SOS officers (who have been stripped) at 35th ST?
Put a fork in SOS-it's done!
7/26/2007 12:03:00 AM
WoW U SHOULD MAKE DETECTIVE!!!
REALLY ASSHOLE? ITS BEEN DONE!
YOU JUST FIGURED THAT OUT??
115 DAYS AND COUNTING!!!
The next series of news articles on the selection of the CPD
Superintendent will focus on how difficult the selection process was. The article will relate how it was such a tediously, time consuming task to select a finalist; with such an incredible pool of talent available for the position.
Some Dumb as said: "HES NOT A SHOE IN IF HE HAS TO DO SPEECHES. CLINE SANDBAGGED HIM AND SENT HIM TO BE A SACRAFICE"
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Hey who the fuck are you talking about - learn how to write!
No one has fucked himself up more than D. Starks. He's done it to himself. His Job title also consist of answering questions from the Media etc. Cline has done all that he can to prevent this dumb ass from embarrassing himself and the dept. Hasn't worked though.
All the guy has to do is talk, and you'll see how stupid he is. How you ask? Well, if you listen to him, his style of speaking is almost reverand like: Repeating a sentence immediately thereafter, a sign of poor speaking ability, and weakness.
Don't blame Cline for someone elses stupidity. Cline has created his own problems, and has yet to blame somone for his, just as your blaming him for Dana.
Was Williams working in IAD during the time Risey was involved with Magnowski.
Anonymous said...
Hey SCC, how about we start to thin the Trib and Times articles here? I can put the arm on a driver if I want to read those rags.........
7/26/2007 09:41:00 AM
This is want gives SCC his power and influence. This is our only forum to interact with the mdia and dispel rumors,lies,deception and bring the blue opinion to light.
Unfortunately, many coppers don't have the time to read the paper on a daily basis or choose not to. I find SCC an invaluable resource to the CPD. We also know that this is the second source the exempts check daily, after the 24 hour daily report.
SCC, has much more power than you think. This little website is catching the eyes of some very influential people across the world.
THE POWER OF THIS BLOG TERRIFIES SOME AND RIGHTLY SO...
Charlie the Reformer and Dean of Discipline
During 13 years in internal affairs, Charles L. Williams was known as a straightforward investigator who could be trusted with the most sensitive cases. Williams helped to take down some of the department's worst cops, including Edward "Pacman" Jackson Jr., an Austin District gang officer who was sentenced to 115 years in prison for robbing dope dealers.
He also helped investigate former Wentworth Officer Gloria Steele,convicted of feeding information on crackdowns to her drug-dealing son, and personally put the cuffs on Joseph Miedzianowski, a former officer convicted of running a major drug operation.
Bull! Risey was Miedzianowski's guy IAD was taking care of him for about 15 years, Mayor Daley also had knowledge about him, the feds took Miedzianowski down IAD covered for him period, Look up the trial.
I work in SOS and actually we are like Navy SEALS.
SOS will continue on...Maybe NOT as SOS, but the name doesn't mean much anyhow...It's the people working there. SOS will be renamed, but NOT disbanded.
Anonymous said...
I don't care who is appointed Supt. I'm still not doing sh*t. The 1st and the 16th is all I'm interested in. I'll ride around all day long with my vest and seatbelt on, using department gas, and not seeing anything, except if my hair is out of place, then I'll re-gel.
7/26/2007 11:46:00 AM
You got the right idea office. I have been saying this for months now. I will go one step further, I got my laptop will full internet access, bagged lunch, and loads of free time to watch TV through the laptop. Guess what thats all in a days tour. Things you need to avoid are: hand waivers, on views, SBM, various community concern event numbers, zone 1 missions, dispersals, fake TRP missions, writing movers/parkers.... those are just a few ideas I have come up with to have a great day. I got the blinders on and I aint doing a dam thing for 95% of the citizens of this rat hole city. Now give me my 1st/16th, uniform, duty avail, TARA, CHA and airport checks! I love it, I got paid for doing nothing and yet you morons still go out there and work. You can take your self pride and tough talk and shove them up your ass. A true blue DOG!!!! Woof Woof Woof
Sounds like you are a bit jealous
trade in that Hyundai, gremlin that you been driving, get off of that AM radio station you been listening too, try living a little, you can always go to Auto Zone and buy you some tint for your window, that way your car will not stand out in the parking lot, take a trip to a auto shop and have a bose speaker system installed, with your next special employment check or over time check push that gremlin into the dealership and buy yourself a real car. You are probably embarassing all of your co workers with that junker that you are driving.
7/26/2007 10:14:00 AM
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obviously, your dumb fucking ass doesn't know how shitty bose speakers are.
Go on, keep making your ride pimped out and ghettofied and embarrassing this department. You fucking ghetto tool wanna-be police officer.
Don't ever forget what HIRAM GRAU did for Robin Robinson of Fox News when he was Commander of 014. He cleaned up Damen to the river of ho's and whatevers. She lives right off of North ave down one of those streets. I think she even did a story on it. Grau is part of the reason why gentrification has blown up so much around Wicker Park/Bucktown. Aka Lincoln Park part 2.
As a department, why target bosses that tell the truth. Dana just told the truth. We have a number of "takers" on this job, I can tell you that he is not one of them. I worked tact with him for years and I watched him put his neck on the line for at least 6 bullshit policemen to save their jobs. You can take that to the bank.
TO:
OFF TOPIC
Why is the Dept. protecting a former SOS officers (who have been stripped) at 35th ST?
Why do you think, can you say cooperating??? I know BR is down there and him and his wife are leaving town once the trial is over and his part in completed. Isn't this is the second scandal that he has survived? Anyone remember when he was in 015 some years back and the game/cartoon character scandal broke out? I'm not sure who else is down there but I do know that alot of guys were on the last personnel order of recent resignations and the such.
There is one guy at Equip and Supply and a bunch still down at callback aka POWS.
It will be interesting to see who turns states evidence in this one.
Anonymous said...
What happened to hair cut standards? I was in 002 the other day and the desk guy (white) has the sides of his head shaved and a ponytail. There were two black coppers , in uniform, that had colored braids down to their asses. I got yelled at in the academy for having curls in my hair because it was "too long." My hair has always been short. What the fuck....
7/26/2007 02:41:00 PM
LOL! 002 has been like that for some time. That desk crew is the biggest bunch of lazy dogs that I ever have seen. That white copper with the gay 8o's hair thinks he is black, really he thinks he is black. They let him think and act black, hence the hair. They got beards and earings and no one says shit! great supervision or no vision
Actually, Starks is correct. Poor to nonexistent supervision by Sgts. on this Dept. has greatly contributed to all of the majowr scandals unearthed on this Dept. in the past 15 years or so.
What female Lt. just transferred into the 1st deputy's office so she can be closer to her main squeeze, Charlie Williams. Inquizative minds want to know!!
18 former SOS coppers gave depositions against the ones who were charged with the home invasions. I'd do the same thing if the ASA's said you or them?
7/26/2007 02:32:00 AM
are you saying you want someone like this to be superintendent? he is a stroke. also, williams won't get it because he has nothing more than a GED and some time in the military. in the military, is some formal education not required to become any type of commanding officer?
Charles Williams did some work on the Gloria Steele investigation. That investigation was conducted by DEA and Mary Hodge. IAD just piggypacked at the end of the Larry Hoover investigation.
Charles Williams did not work on the "Pacman" investigation. That investigation was done by Gene Shephard and Joe Airhardt under the supervision of John Guarnieri.
The Joseph Medizianowski investigation was conducted by Sgt. Doody of IAD not Charles Williams.
Charles Williams had to be promoted meritoriously and was nominated I believe by his former ADS, Michael Hoke. Hoke also nominated Cynthia White.
Eugene Karczewski was quoted in the Sun Times yesterday regarding Charles Williams. He was the individual who provided information to the media that led to Superintendent Rodriguez retiring.
SOS officers of today are nothing like the caliber of officers in the past. These guys do nothing to bring crime down and are so concerned with their looks and hair gel that it is embarassing.
Today's SWAT could never hold a candle up to HBT. Makes me so mad, because I can't get a chance to show the SWAT guys what a real shooter can do. I was a Marine. I was "elite" and I know how to fight. Today's SOS officer lacks drive, intelligence and knowledge. Why do you think there are so many many people trying to attack verbally and physically these SOS officers? They are terrible and need to be disbanded right away!
Maybe the new crew of SOS officers are just as guilty as JF and crew? Afterall, they are learning his ways right? Time to shut the SOS unit down once and for all.
-10th Dist po
Don't knock the Deuce....it's the same in all Districts. No one wants to touch the issue of improper hairstyles. I understand that the Dept. has been sued over this issue in the past, and lost.
No one wants to take a stand on this and wind up on the stand in litigation. As long as the officers are competent, that's all that matters, for now.
I know a lot of people here will bash me on this, but MARIA MAHER
did more to clean up the prostitutes along North Ave. than any other Cmdr in 014. Think what you want, the difference is clear.
Maher did a full court press on the
ladies. And not just North Ave., but Armitage, Kedzie and Central Pk too.
What female Lt. just transferred into the 1st deputy's office so she can be closer to her main squeeze, Charlie Williams. Inquizative minds want to know!!
7/27/2007 01:48:00 AM
Well, since Williams isn't in the 1rst Deputy's office and Dana is, what do you think? fool........
1st and 16th said...
Anonymous said...
"I don't care who is appointed Supt. I'm still not doing sh*t....."
7/26/2007 11:46:00 AM
You got the right idea office. I have been saying this for months now. I will go one step further, I got my laptop will full internet access, bagged lunch, and loads of free time to watch TV through the laptop. Guess what thats all in a days tour. Things you need to avoid are: hand waivers, on views, SBM, various community concern event numbers, zone 1 missions, dispersals, fake TRP missions, writing movers/parkers.... those are just a few ideas I have come up with to have a great day. I got the blinders on and I aint doing a dam thing for 95% of the citizens of this rat hole city. Now give me my 1st/16th, uniform, duty avail, TARA, CHA and airport checks! I love it, I got paid for doing nothing and yet you morons still go out there and work. You can take your self pride and tough talk and shove them up your ass. A true blue DOG!!!! Woof Woof Woof
7/26/2007 08:02:00 PM
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B-I-N-G-O!!!!!! You got it ace!!
The only people that should be working are those in 016 and the West End of 008; 022. FU%K the rest of this shit-hole city!!!!! It's either ghetto or liberal-ass yuppies paying insane prices for property where they are packed in like cattle.
For those of you who think the city will back you; you're soft as shit. The city, the bosses, the department, the media will ALL let you hang.
Be SMART!! NEVER run, NEVER pursuit in a vehicle, NEVER break a sweat. Just do your job and follow all directives. Back up your fellow workers when they need help.
Increase your education while we still have the benefit. A master’s degree is now at least $15,000 if not more. Study to make detective. (a small fraction do make in legit)
Lastly, Become involved in the FOP. GO TO MEETINGS!!!!! Organize, form initiatives for BETTER working conditions and BITCH, COMPLAIN and DEMAND!! They are elected by US!!
Does anyone know the status of Sgt. Shorty Bighead?
I may drive a Gremlin, but I spend my money to live in a good neighborhood and to send my kids to a private school where they get a real education.
Keep your shit ghetto ride.
"I'm still not doing shit"
That's ok with us who do the work. Guys/gals like u are never "up" anyway so, no loss.
It must make your kids so proud when you whine to them about how unfair life is and that their daddy just takes his pay and lets other do his job for him.
Go look in a mirror. You will be looking at a true loser!
Anonymous said...
SOS officers of today are nothing like the caliber of officers in the past. These guys do nothing to bring crime down and are so concerned with their looks and hair gel that it is embarassing.
Today's SWAT could never hold a candle up to HBT. Makes me so mad, because I can't get a chance to show the SWAT guys what a real shooter can do. I was a Marine. I was "elite" and I know how to fight. Today's SOS officer lacks drive, intelligence and knowledge. Why do you think there are so many many people trying to attack verbally and physically these SOS officers? They are terrible and need to be disbanded right away!
Maybe the new crew of SOS officers are just as guilty as JF and crew? Afterall, they are learning his ways right? Time to shut the SOS unit down once and for all.
-10th Dist po
7/27/2007 08:24:00 AM
HMM KID WOW! YOUR REAL SMART! SOS ALONG WITH THE OLD GANG UNITS AT ONE TIME WERE THE BEST! WITH DALEY AND THE ALDERCLOWNS SHOOTING OFF THEIR MOUTHS SOS IS SO DEMORALIZED IT WILL NEVER GET BACK TO THE GREATNESS IT ONCE WAS! YES IT HAD SOME ASSHOLES THAT ARE NOW GONE! THE MAYOR AND EXEMPT STAFF PAINTS ALL OF THEM WITH THE SAME BROAD BRUSH AND IF YOUR SUCH A GREAT COPPER YOU SHOULD GO THERE NAD USE YOUR 2 YEARS EXPERIENCE TO SHOW THE REAL MEN HOW TO WORK! THEN AFTER YOUR INDICTMENT AND TRIAL WE WILL READ YOUR STORY IN THE HEROIC SUN TIMES ABOUT HOW GOOD YOU "WERE"!
Amen to 8:24 post....You are a smart 10th copper indeed
Who cares who the new Boss is, anyone with less than 20 years on the job now will not get a full pension. Look at the underfunded pension and forget about who is a Boss. Unless, of course, you do not mind not getting a pension.
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