Still Grau?
- The police blotter: Rumor circulating among Chicago Police Department wags is Deputy Supt. Charles Williams has asked for packing boxes to be brought to his office. Hmmm. Does moving out mean moving up . . . to the top spot? Stay tuned.
First up, the last time someone was this obviously the "front runner," Daley did a 180 and picked Hillard over Ramsey, leading to all sorts of hurt feelings and resignations.
Second, since when has Daley ever done anything someone like Sneed says he will? Daley uses tame columnists like this constantly to deflect attention from various mini scandals constantly brewing.
Third, why would Williams need moving boxes? After the Superintendent is sworn in, he just has to walk out of the media room, grab the first 10 coppers he sees in the hallway, ask them if they like where they're working, then have them move everything across the hall to his new office. Trust us, when they name a new Superintendent, there are going to be a boatload of coppers lined up outside the room who will move all manner of file cabinets just because they want to.
If Williams is asking for moving boxes, hopefully, he's moving out.
Second, since when has Daley ever done anything someone like Sneed says he will? Daley uses tame columnists like this constantly to deflect attention from various mini scandals constantly brewing.
Third, why would Williams need moving boxes? After the Superintendent is sworn in, he just has to walk out of the media room, grab the first 10 coppers he sees in the hallway, ask them if they like where they're working, then have them move everything across the hall to his new office. Trust us, when they name a new Superintendent, there are going to be a boatload of coppers lined up outside the room who will move all manner of file cabinets just because they want to.
If Williams is asking for moving boxes, hopefully, he's moving out.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
103 Comments:
Who cares? We still won't have working PDT's or cars that are work a shit on the street..........
38th Ward Alderman Tom Allen is blaming Jon Burge for destroying the Chicago Police Department now and for the last 20 years.
Alderman Allen is also suggesting that the City of Chicago hire some very high priced lawyers to prosecute Jon Burge by tolling the statute of limitations.
http://cltv.trb.com/
Can an attorney explain what tolling the statute of limitations means?
We need to keep a scorecard of elected officials for election time. FOP endorses everyone and in return we get nothing.
I care...if it ain't the guy from New york, I ain't got an unit to work in, a take home car to run errands in, and three extra hours of free time a day after I do my five hours!
So, I care!
Please King Rich - go with the New Yorker. Patrol can find an able body to take my place!
Well, it is now day 114 without a replacement superintendent. It seems something is wrong with the decision making process.
Ask not for whom the section 1983 statute tolls
It may toll for thee
SCC,
You didn't mention the arrest of the four illegal aliens in the news over the last two days.
One was arrested at O'Hare Airport on his way to Mexico City after committing a homicide in 017.
Two arrested in Barrington Hills growing $4,000,000 worth of marijuana in the Cook County Forest Preserves.
One was driving a hazzardous material tanker in Indiana with no citizenship and no CDL or DL. The Indiana State Police RWOC. Incredible....
Just poor,oppressed,undocumented workers trying for a better life in AmeeriKa.
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38th Ward Alderman Tom Allen is blaming Jon Burge for destroying the Chicago Police Department now and for the last 20 years.
Alderman Allen is also suggesting that the City of Chicago hire some very high priced lawyers to prosecute Jon Burge by tolling the statute of limitations.
http://cltv.trb.com/
Can an attorney explain what tolling the statute of limitations means?
We need to keep a scorecard of elected officials for election time. FOP endorses everyone and in return we get nothing.
7/25/2007 12:47:00 AM
What do the clowns we back ever do for us? We still have no contract but we endorsed most alderclowns! WTF FOP stop endorsing the assholes thank You!
I used to work in a warehouse...holy cow, this could be my calling! I can move boxes with the best of em!!!
Has anyone seen Hiram Grau packing or requesting boxes?
Has anyone called New York Westchester County Department of Public Safety to check that current status of Thomas Belfiore?
Chicago City Clerk Miguel del Valle is a native of Puerto Rico Hiram Grau is a native of Puerto Rico. I believe that having two Puerto Rican high profile department heads would never fly.
This would offend the Mexicans,Afro-Americans and caucasians. The politics of political correctness and racism would have to be factored in. Did I say racism,oh my, I meant racial equality.
There are 55,000 registered Hispanic voters in Chicago -- about 13% of all registered to vote.
Not a big enough voting block to sustain multiple department heads, the Puerto Rican community/voting bloc is even smaller.
Unfortunately,I don't believe Hiram Grau is getting the nod.
First Deputy Police Supt. Dana Starks acknowledged the need to rein in members of the Special Operations Section under questioning at a City Council hearing on police torture by former Lt. Jon Burge.
"We have to improve our supervision all the way down to the sergeant level to ensure compliance by our officers and let our officers know that they are being monitored, they are being watched, they are being held accountable and there's an expectation of professionalism."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/482361,CST-NWS-sos25.article
Aldermen move to strip Burge of his city pension
CITY HALL | Former police commander accused of torture
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/482354,CST-NWS-burge25.article
Speaking of City Council hearings didn't Chicago City Clerk Miguel del Valle promise open and televised council hearings/meetings?
When and where are the Chicago City Council hearings going to be broadcast?
This would make for much more interesting blogging.
Belfore gets it. Bank on it!
July 25, 1952 Puerto Rico became a self-governing U.S. commonwealth.
Is this the day Congressman Luis Gutierrez and the FALN commemorate by planting bombs that blowup NYPD police officers?
More From Alderman Tom Allen,remember him at election time:
"I come to this hearing with some personal knowledge, being ... in the public defender's office from 1976 to 1986," said Ald. Thomas Allen (38th). "I was in the belly of the beast of Area 2 [Burge's unit] on many homicide cases."
"If we want to do things in this building, in this administration, if we want it [badly] enough, we can create legal theories to go after these guys," Allen said. "We would like to get this anvil, Jon Burge, off our neck.
"Where there is a will, there is a way."
12:50 AM
You're "reverse psychology" strategy ain't workin', clout baby. We know you are either a GRAU or WILLIAMS supporter.
Odds on, you're the same poster who earlier claimed that New Yorker Belfiore was your "cousin".
The only chance for any meaningful reform rests with "an outsider". We got your number, wise guy!
Does any district have a pool going on how long it will be until the next superintendent is selected and who it will be?
We should also have a pool on who the first exempts to retire are. Dana Starks has already announced his retirement.
The pool should also offer odds on:
Who will be the new 1st Deputy Superintendent?
Who will be the first non-exempt member to be made exempt?
Who cares,,They all suck
Does anyone know if the dept. offers marriage counseling?
Chicago City Clerk Miguel del Valle is a native of Puerto Rico Hiram Grau is a native of Puerto Rico. I believe that having two Puerto Rican high profile department heads would never fly.
This would offend the Mexicans,Afro-Americans and caucasians. The politics of political correctness and racism would have to be factored in. Did I say racism,oh my, I meant racial equality.
7/25/2007 04:01:00 AM
As a white guy on the job, I wouldn't be offended by Grau being named Superintendent (though I don't know him, never met him, and never saw him in person). However, as a police officer on the job, I would be seriously offended by Williams getting the job (he has destroyed the patrol division, fucked up the Jefferson Tap incident so as to get Cline forced out, and we don't need that shit spreading throughout the rest of the department).
I don't care who it is, get rid of ALL the micro-managers, maher first!
Could it be that our King, Richard the Confused had second thoughts about firing Cline?
Imagine firing someone and then having the balls to ask him to hang around until his majesty can figure out whom to replace him with?
"Trust us, when they name a new Superintendent, there are going to be a boatload of coppers lined up outside the room who will move all manner of file cabinets just because they want to."
1/2 of them will be white shirts, all of them will be wearing their SWAT kneepads, bah,bah,bah just here to Serve you Boss in any Capacity...
Will not make a difference who end up as the #1 cop. That person still is in Chicago, that person still answer to Daley....only the name will change and a different group of people will get cushy spots
After hundreds of thousands of Hispanics across the United States marched for immigration law reform on May 1, 2006, the rallying cry in the Hispanic community quickly became "Today we march, tomorrow we vote."
Indeed, an additional 800,000 Hispanics went to the polls during November's 2006 midterm elections compared to four years earlier, according to a study released Tuesday by the Pew Hispanic Center. But Latinos represented nearly half the total population growth in the United States between 2002 and 2006, the study said.
The 5.6 million votes cast in 2006 midterms by Hispanics represented only 13 percent of the total Hispanic population compared to the 27 percent of all blacks who cast votes and 39 percent of all whites who voted -- a disappointing turnout attributed to a population too young to vote or ineligible because of citizenship status
Off topic-
Can anyone recommend a good on site or in-home day care service around the edgebrook/sauganash area for a 3 month old? I would really appreciate some input from some fellow police officers. Thanks
Way to support your fellow officers Dana! You fucking hack.
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From the Sun-Times:
An elite Chicago Police unit dogged by complaints and at the center of a cops-as-robbers scandal "needs more supervision," a top police official said Tuesday.
First Deputy Police Supt. Dana Starks acknowledged the need to rein in members of the Special Operations Section under questioning at a City Council hearing on police torture by former Lt. Jon Burge.
Ald. Anthony Beale (9th) opened the can of worms when he called the behavior of S.O.S. officers "another form of abuse of power. ... It happened 20 years ago and it's happening today."
Starks denied that complaints against S.O.S. officers were swept "under the rug," noting that many people file an initial complaint but fail to follow through.
But, he said, "We have to improve our supervision all the way down to the sergeant level to ensure compliance by our officers and let our officers know that they are being monitored, they are being watched, they are being held accountable and there's an expectation of professionalism."
The Chicago Sun-Times reported last week that more than 1,200 complaints have dogged 57 S.O.S. officers over the past five years, but only four of those complaints have led to discipline: a 15-day suspension and three reprimands.
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To Do List
{}Hire more officers
{}Cut Man Power in Specialized Units, at least 50% for TRU and SOS.
{}Get PDTs Working
{}Reduce Merit Promotions
{}Give OEMC Dispatchers the right to tell citizens that certain things are 'not a police matter'.
{}Give the actual taxpayer some police service, not just the ghetto.
{}Give patrol officers permission to carry Tazers if they so desire.
{}Distroy 80% of pool cars, move current cars to pool, and update the fleet.
{}Take 'quality over quantity' for unit arrests. No 1 baggers, S.U.B., D.O.P.W., etc...
Add to this list as needed.
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Out here in the 19th ward with no contract and rugai still hasnt uttered a peep maybe all you merit guys and shmucks in units that put your name on her flyers can explain why someone who claims to represent the police when its election time ignores them now. I think we should name names fo Rugais police supporters who allowed there name to be used for campaign purposes. I still have the flyer
Alderman Allen is also suggesting that the City of Chicago hire some very high priced lawyers to prosecute Jon Burge by tolling the statute of limitations.
http://cltv.trb.com/
well mr. allen is a lawyer, and rumor has it he is leaving as a alderman and going back into private practice.. and will be what stroger did pass it on to a political hack
Daley has yet again requested Cline to stick around for a while.
Seems the stuttering moron is haveing second thoughts.
That is if he is capable of thinking.
Aldercreature Allen is a total moron. We, in his area, have been trying to get him out for years. He does nothing for us. He lets all these illegals 'expand' their homes to let so many famillies in them...up to 13 different families in one house. The East Euro's comiing in, remodel and then turn to section 8. He doesn't listen when complaints are registared. We have to call the city inspectors to try to help "cure" the problems. This has got to stop. The police can't do it all.
Major gas explosions rocking Dallas.
Anyone remember a retired copper named Mablocki?? Worked in Central Detention...which was a great place for him as he was a few bottles short of a case...He was charged with severaal felony counts of using stolen credit cards...another nitwit...he was doing so while he was on the job...Coppers are their own worst enemies...plain and simple
We need a Police Commissioner like other towns. No more inter dept. corruption. A civilian boss.
GOD BLESS JON BURGE!!
Thomas Belfiore will not get this by any stretch of the imagination. Since he is an outsider - he will be offered no contract and will only be upping his pay about $10,000. Hardly enough to uproot a family and make a move. He is probably getting $5,000.00 just for submitting an application.
Well, it is now day 114 without a replacement superintendent. It seems something is wrong with the decision making process.
7/25/2007 12:59:00 AM
How do you figure that?? Kilne stayed on after his announcement--
One was arrested at O'Hare Airport on his way to Mexico City after committing a homicide in 017.
It was in 025, not 017
FOR SCC TO SEE
http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/482236,CST-NWS-lock25.article
Ah-- white trash. Is there really anything better??
i saw somebody yesterday packing something down at headquarters but it wasn't boxes. it was more like fudge !!!!
Anonymous said...
38th Ward Alderman Tom Allen is blaming Jon Burge for destroying the Chicago Police Department now and for the last 20 years.
Alderman Allen is also suggesting that the City of Chicago hire some very high priced lawyers to prosecute Jon Burge by tolling the statute of limitations.
http://cltv.trb.com/
Can an attorney explain what tolling the statute of limitations means?
We need to keep a scorecard of elected officials for election time. FOP endorses everyone and in return we get nothing.
7/25/2007 12:47:00 AM
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From what i can remeber when i heard this term back in college is that when the statute of limitations tolls, that means it has been legally suspended -- in other words, the clock stops running for a certain period of time -- and the five or however many years a state sets their limitations for a crime gets further away. hope this helps.
driving a pool car with 148,000 miles on it and no PDT and yet they ask you to come in with a curfew and look at you like youre the asshole when you dont and we get off at 11.
Rode last night job after job and still gave us shit at 11 when we came in wothout a curfew.
I really think they still want us to make the shit up. Aint happening !
The pool car I had last night smelled like old fucken ass , as a matter of fact old dead ass. I think Clines ass sat in this car when it was skinny. Okkkk maybe not that long ago.
Look at what the firemen are driving around. It makes me sick to see what they have for equipment and what we have.
Anonymous said...
First Deputy Police Supt. Dana Starks acknowledged the need to rein in members of the Special Operations Section under questioning at a City Council hearing on police torture by former Lt. Jon Burge.
"We have to improve our supervision all the way down to the sergeant level to ensure compliance by our officers and let our officers know that they are being monitored, they are being watched, they are being held accountable and there's an expectation of professionalism."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/482361,CST-NWS-sos25.article
7/25/2007 04:48:00 AM
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What more can they do to them?? They have GPS up their butt. They knew exactly where they are are at all times.
WHY IS IT THAT GRAU'S INTERVIEW LASTAED 1 HOUR WITH THE MAYOR AND WILLIAMS' ONLY 15 MINUTES???
"We have to improve our supervision all the way down to the sergeant level to ensure compliance by our officers and let our officers know that they are being monitored, they are being watched, they are being held accountable and there's an expectation of professionalism."
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You, thats the answer! It was ONLY the front line supervisors fault. Don't mention the fact that the leaders at the top of this organization developed and sustained a culture in SOS where only heads counted. Get those guns any way that you can. Dope too. There was a supervisory deficit there, for sure, as evidenced by the hoodies, no badges nor nametags visible and all the other small signs that there was an endemic problem. But lets remember that the supervisors were giving the leaders what they wanted....heads and numbers. Quality did not count, only quantity. Dana and Phil stood up time after time and praised the work being done there. And I know that the great majority of officers and supervisors were trying to do the right thing. But now in the typical hypocritical manner of the leaders of an organization which is being dragged through the mud (see major league baseball and steroids) the leaders cry " hang em high", forgetting the way that they trumpeted the past numbers. Just like Daley going along with all of this investigating of Burge and the area 2 guys. Daley was elected Mayor based on the arrest, conviction and sentencing of all of the really bad guys who went to jail in those days, and he KNEW about the allegations of mistreatment which were leveled at that time. And remember I said allegations. Where was his sanctimony then, the back stabbing prick.
All of these fucks have to remember that they can't have it both ways.
Stay Safe, and if you can, send Mike Mette a few bucks.
The new gun order is out GO-07-01 and not a word from you guys? Nothing to complain about? I'm shocked. Coppers complain non stop, so why the silence here? How about a "nice job" to those who worked on it for the last year and a half?
NO, YOU WILL SEE A MOVING VAN FROM NEW YORK IN FROnt OF 35/MICH. This will be the greatest thing for the Department. All the retirements will fall fast, nobody will get made, and neputism will be out the window. TIME TO STIR THE SOUL. (DALEY OLYMPICS)
Can an attorney explain what tolling the statute of limitations means?
We need to keep a scorecard of elected officials for election time. FOP endorses everyone and in return we get nothing.
7/25/2007 12:47:00 AM
Not an attorney, but as I understand it (and I may be a bit off, "tolling" means both parties agree to extend the time in which the case needs to be settled or prosecuted. Like that's gonna happen.
BOZO THE CLOWN FOR SUP!
Witness details bribes to Chicago cop
A master thief and killer for the Outfit testified today that his mob boss gave a top Chicago cop, William Hanhardt, $1,000 to $1,200 a month in bribes and a new car every two years.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/mob/483144,CST-NWS-outfit25.article
LADIES AND GENTS! ONCE AGAIIN, IT'S NOT THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB!!!!
REMEMBER, THEY'RE STILL CHECKING THE CLOSETS FOR SKELETONS!
HELL, TAKE A LOOK AT OUR FIRST DEPUTY. NOTHING NEWS WORTHY IN HIS PLAYA LIFE THAT KEPT HIM FROM GETTING THE JOB HE GOT - OH YEAH, AND WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM THE REVERANDS OF THE CITY, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. HE'S DUMBER THAN A BAG OF ROCKS! COULDN'T HELP A THREE LEGGED DOG OUT OF CHINATOWN IF HIS LIFE DEPENDED UPON IT.
CAN'T GO WITH THE NEW YORKER, CAUSE THE NEW YORKER HAS NO TIES TO CHICAGO, AND WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM TELLING THE MAYOR TO GO FUCK HIMSELF IF HE HAD TO. BUT THEN AGAIN, MONEY AND PERKS? THAT DOES A LOT OF TALKING.
SCC,
You didn't mention the arrest of the four illegal aliens in the news over the last two days.
One was arrested at O'Hare Airport on his way to Mexico City after committing a homicide in 017.
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Wrong! No bonus round for you. Had a green card. Not every alien is illegal.
One was arrested at O'Hare Airport on his way to Mexico City after committing a homicide in 017
Get your facts straight ignorant lil adolf,he in fact legal with a U.S. passport in hand!
Does it really fucking matter who is the superintendent? Yes! If we had an outsider beholden to nobody then perhaps we'd get some fair promotional exams, assignments, etc. But the problem is that we are used to the bullshit clout babies running things. So I guess it really doesn't matter after all.
Like 12:14 said, the PDTS still wont work. The manpower will still be short. Retards will still be in positions of authority. Reverends will still hate the police (they will just do the brother handshake with the superintendent before calling press conferences).
What a city!
One was arrested at O'Hare Airport on his way to Mexico City after committing a homicide in 017
Get your facts straight ignorant lil adolf,he in fact legal with a U.S. passport in hand!
7/25/2007 10:17:00 PM
Was in 025-- not 017 anyway. Two strikes!
To: 7/25/2007 08:48:00 AM
Does anyone know if the dept. offers marriage counseling?
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Yes, we do have it. And it doesn't cost anything.
Look in FOP book under "EAP" (Employee Assistance Program) for the number (sorry, don't have it on me at the moment). It's now over at St Michael's House (Adams/Paulina), so at least there's easy parking. See if you can get an appt with Kathleen. I thought she was great. Best of luck to you.
115 Days and Counting
Did Mayor Richard M. Daley prematurely fire Superintendent Phil Cline?
It certaintly appears like it,the decision making process is creaking along at what could best be termed,an exceptionally slow crawl.
Rumors have recently surfaced indicating that Thomas Belfiore would be unavailable to take command of the CPD until early September.
Anonymous said...
38th Ward Alderman Tom Allen is blaming Jon Burge for destroying the Chicago Police Department now and for the last 20 years.
Alderman Allen is also suggesting that the City of Chicago hire some very high priced lawyers to prosecute Jon Burge by tolling the statute of limitations.
http://cltv.trb.com/
Can an attorney explain what tolling the statute of limitations means?
We need to keep a scorecard of elected officials for election time. FOP endorses everyone and in return we get nothing.
7/25/2007 12:47:00 AM
If I may preface this comment by saying I am a Burge Supporter, but I also believe he did what needed to be done for the sake of making an arrest and clearing the case.
What everyone fails to realize is that there is no Statue of Limitations on Official Misconduct.
Anonymous said...
Well, it is now day 114 without a replacement superintendent. It seems something is wrong with the decision making process.
7/25/2007 12:59:00 AM
Yeah the guy who should be the boss already is.
charlie, i vote for you but man oh man, enough with all the bullshit general orders and stupide wolf packing and directed missions. you were the police at one time in your career. don't forget where you came from. as uncle ben would say to spider man "with great power comes great responsibility". don't fuck the workers. but i do agree about you going after all these dog ass mother fucking gangsta coppers on this job. by all means, clean house but lift the heat off the good guys, will ya. Go Charlie!!!!!!
A statute of limitation "tolls" when there is an ongoing criminal act related to the original criminal incident. Thus, the offender can be charged for the original crime long after the statute of limitations would have lapsed.
Here's how it works. . . Offender committs a sexual assault of a young woman in 1978. Since it's a felony, the statute of limitations is three (3) years. So, if charges are not brought within this time frame, he is, depending on the age of the victim, in the clear after three years. Now, here is how tolling changes the game. Suppose this same offender rapes the same woman again in 1980, 1982, 1984, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1992, 1994, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2006. When he is finally arrested in 2007, he can be charged with all the 15 separate crimes because it was ongoing and the statute tolled with each new crime.
That's how tolling works.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
First Deputy Police Supt. Dana Starks acknowledged the need to rein in members of the Special Operations Section under questioning at a City Council hearing on police torture by former Lt. Jon Burge.
"We have to improve our supervision all the way down to the sergeant level to ensure compliance by our officers and let our officers know that they are being monitored, they are being watched, they are being held accountable and there's an expectation of professionalism."
Get rid of the unit they ruined it for all of us, and get rid of Dana aka "The First Pimp," too. because he is just another example of the "Peter Principle."
However, as a police officer on the job, I would be seriously offended by Williams getting the job (he has destroyed the patrol division, fucked up the Jefferson Tap incident so as to get Cline forced out, and we don't need that shit spreading throughout the rest of the department).
Sorry but that incident wasn't his call.....
Can anyone recommend a good on site or in-home day care service around the edgebrook/sauganash area for a 3 month old? I would really appreciate some input from some fellow police officers. Thanks
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Research "Care a Lot" I believe it's on Central just north of Devon. Can't remember age wise but I've been really happy with their other location at Bryn Mawr/Milwaukee. What a great idea for some of our stay at home spouses, get licensed and become an "off hour" day care/preschool for coppers only. Since they are raising their own, the money taken in could reduce a part timer or two. Just a thought....
SCC,
I think you called this one correctly.
Statute of limitations in criminal cases
The Statute of Limitations requires that cases be initiated within a certain period. In Illinois, the statute of limitations for misdemeanors is 18 months and for most felonies, 3 years. Some crimes carry longer SOLs. For example, a few years ago the SOL for sexual abuse of a minor was extended to 10 years after the child turned 18. There is no SOL for murder.
Once you are charged, the SOL stops and speedy trial rights begin. There are certain statutory provisions that "tolls" the SOL, meaning that the time stops running, for whatever time that condition continues.
The only example of this that I can remember from law school is that the person was a fugitive or was continually out of state. Burge has been out of state, but his "crimes" occurred long enough before he left that this isn't an issue.
You can't retroactively change the SOL after the SOL had already run. When the SOL changed for child sex abuse, the courts prohibited charges where the SOL had already run before the law was changed (only applies to cases going forward).
For civil cases, the SOL is usually two years. You can extend the SOL under certain circumstances -- like you DISCOVERED the circumstances long after the wrong was committed. In child sex abuse cases, victims claimed that they had repressed the memories so they just "discovered" that they were injuried by the abuse when they started counseling, for example.
The other circumstance is when you engage in a "course of conduct." The IL Supreme Court ruled a couple of years ago that the SOL started to run on domestic violence at the time of the LAST incident. So if a person was abused for 10 years and they filed suit within 2 years of the last incident, all of the abuse was within the SOL.
That would have probably applied to Burge for 2 years after the last incident. Again, the incidents were known way back when. SOL has already run.
(The sexual abuse cases against the church are going forward because the victims are claiming fraud by the church tolled the SOL.)
I don't think that there is a way to legally get at Burge this late in the game, expensive lawyer or not.
Long answer, but clarity requires space. I think like a lawyer even at 4am.
"Wrong! No bonus round for you. Had a green card. Not every alien is illegal.
Get your facts straight ignorant lil adolf,he in fact legal with a U.S. passport in hand!"
I guess you're also ok with the fact he slept w/ the corpse for 2 days, Doing God knows what,then stuffs her in a plastic bag,hides the body in the attic.&Hightails it for Ole Mexico
But hey Ese, Chingon gots his green card ang ees a citizen homes?
( Fake Passport probably purchased @ Megamall,along w/ the bogus green card? )
But ees okay,rye mang?
Hope He rots in hell along w/you two you trying to validate his existence
Grau gone. Belfore gets it.
What about m. shield's? Named as an offender in a couple of case reports and goes to another po's house to tell her husband (also a po) that he was still seeing the wife and there was nothing the husband could do about it!
Tolling requires that the Defendant has made himself "unavailable" for arrest and/or prosecution - he's in hiding, has fled the country, has gone underground by assuming an alias or otherwise hiding his identify and whereabout. Don't think any of these apply to Burge. And by the way, those who think they can take Burge's pension are just blowing smoke and trying to grab headlines. No such authority exists. . .
Of course lack of leadership is the problem at SOS. The city just gave frank radke the annual leadership award. He was in charge of special functions the entire time that the sos crew was robbing and stealing, before he retired. He was the patron to Finnigan and others in that crew.
Maybe we can bring him back for a high paid, post retirement job consulting for the department on leadership.
Anonymous said...
The new gun order is out GO-07-01 and not a word from you guys? Nothing to complain about? I'm shocked. Coppers complain non stop, so why the silence here? How about a "nice job" to those who worked on it for the last year and a half?
7/25/2007 04:37:00 PM
WOW! NEW GUNS WOO!HOO! I HAVE A GUN THAT IS ENOUGH HAVE FUN ALL YOU YOUNG WHIPPER SNAPPERS WITH THE NEW GUNS! HOW ABOUT A RAISE AND MORE TIME OFF THAT WE REALLY NEED NEW GUNS? WTF!
Anonymous said...
driving a pool car with 148,000 miles on it and no PDT and yet they ask you to come in with a curfew and look at you like youre the asshole when you dont and we get off at 11.
Rode last night job after job and still gave us shit at 11 when we came in wothout a curfew.
I really think they still want us to make the shit up. Aint happening !
The pool car I had last night smelled like old fucken ass , as a matter of fact old dead ass. I think Clines ass sat in this car when it was skinny. Okkkk maybe not that long ago.
Look at what the firemen are driving around. It makes me sick to see what they have for equipment and what we have.
7/25/2007 03:23:00 PM
DRIVE BY 51ST WENTWORTH LOTS OF NEW CARS IN THE LOTS BUT THEY ARE NOT GIVING THEM OUT WHY? GUESS PICARDI AND HIS STREET CREW CANNOT GET THEM READY!
Anonymous said...
Chicago City Clerk Miguel del Valle is a native of Puerto Rico Hiram Grau is a native of Puerto Rico. I believe that having two Puerto Rican high profile department heads would never fly.
This would offend the Mexicans,Afro-Americans and caucasians. The politics of political correctness and racism would have to be factored in. Did I say racism,oh my, I meant racial equality.
7/25/2007 04:01:00 AM
CHICAGO CITY CLERK WHAT DOES THAT JOB DO ANYWAY? THE OTHER DAY I TALKED TO SOME CLOWN DRIVING HIS PERSONAL CAR WRITING TICKETS ON MY BLOCK HE SHOWED ME A BULLSHIT EXEMPT TYPE OF STAR AND TOLD ME HE WAS AN "INVESTIGATOR" FOR THE CITY CLERKS OFFICE! I ASKED WHAT EXACTLY THEY DID? HE STATED "WE INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS OF NO CITY STICKER AND WRITE TICKETS"! ANOTHER CLOUT JOB? I CALLED THE CITY CLERKS OFFICE AND A PRESS PERSON TOLD ME "WE HAVE 13 INVESTIGATORS THAT INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS"! THOUGHT THAT WAS WHAT METER MAIDS WERE DOING? THE GUYS NAME WAS ZACHOWSKI HE WAS AN ASSISTANT TO THE CHIEF INVESTIGATOR! WTF MORE CLOUT JOBS? IS MIGUEL A REFORMER? NAW! ANOTHER DALEY PET!
Does anyone know if the dept. offers marriage counseling?
7/25/2007 08:48:00 AM
It's called a divorce lawyer.
Anonymous said...
First Deputy Police Supt. Dana Starks acknowledged the need to rein in members of the Special Operations Section under questioning at a City Council hearing on police torture by former Lt. Jon Burge.
"We have to improve our supervision all the way down to the sergeant level to ensure compliance by our officers and let our officers know that they are being monitored, they are being watched, they are being held accountable and there's an expectation of professionalism."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/482361,CST-NWS-sos25.article
7/25/2007 04:48:00 AM
Is dana being watched? how about a camera in his office and city car? surely it would show how hard he works! Notice how he is dumping into goos positions out of his office? HE GONE THANK GOD AND SOON!
I have a question about this "marriage Counseling" at St Michael's house...will they tell the ole lady she is wrong or will I still have to?
Anonymous said...
I have a question about this "marriage Counseling" at St Michael's house...will they tell the ole lady she is wrong or will I still have to?
7/26/2007 09:05:00 AM
first of all you probably never told her she was pretty.
Anonymous said...
I have a question about this "marriage Counseling" at St Michael's house...will they tell the ole lady she is wrong or will I still have to?
7/26/2007 09:05:00 AM
Just sit there like a mope like you did for your marriage and wonder y it is in the toilet
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know if the dept. offers marriage counseling?
7/25/2007 08:48:00 AM
It's called a divorce lawyer.
7/26/2007 08:49:00 AM
LOL True!
Anonymous said...
What about m. shield's? Named as an offender in a couple of case reports and goes to another po's house to tell her husband (also a po) that he was still seeing the wife and there was nothing the husband could do about it!
7/26/2007 07:56:00 AM
ANOTHER EXEMPT FUCK UP! HOW MANY JAGOFFS GOT THE GOLD AND STILL DO WHATEVER! IF IT WAS A BLUESHIRT YOU WOULD BE FIRED,AND MAYBE INDICTED FOR SOME MADE UP SHIT JUST TO SHUT YOU UP! THIS DEPT IS IN THE GUTTER CANNOT GO ANY LOWER COLLECT A CHECK 1ST AND 16TH AND EVERYTHING ELSE FUCK IT!
Anonymous said...
What about m. shield's? Named as an offender in a couple of case reports and goes to another po's house to tell her husband (also a po) that he was still seeing the wife and there was nothing the husband could do about it!
7/26/2007 07:56:00 AM
I am tired of these illegal fucks! watch your fall 07 property tax bills boys and girls it will be a whopper after all with daley making shitcago a sanctuary city we have to pay for all these illegal mexican assholes right! FREE HEALTHCARE, FREE SHIT PUBLIC SCHOOLS, FREE FOOD, FREE LINK, FREE HOUSING VIVA USA! AND LIKE SHEEP WE ACCEPT ALL OF THIS SHIT TIME FOR A REVOLUTION A TEA PARTY!
QUESTION?????????
C. WILLIAMS was destined to be a "sergeant forever" until he was promoted to lieutenant (meritorious?) and then took off like a rocket. Does anyone know the answer to this?
Is it because of his "nailing" bad coppers like Joseph Miedzianowski??
Whatever the case, he has a shit way with words when giving "pep talks" to working coppers. MANY of us agree that we'll stop working if he's made.
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know if the dept. offers marriage counseling?
Sincerely
P. Cline
P.S.
My ol lady Dana is driving me nuts!
THE SONG IS WE BE MOVING ON UP TO THE EAST SIDE TO A DELUXE APARTMENT
To the officer inquiring about marital counseling or the need to talk to someone,
EAP provides counseling
TPAC provides counseling
St. Michael's House has additional sources and resources available
NYPD just lost a brother through suicide,if you feel things are getting overwhelming; please reachout to someone. Partners and supervisors, please watch your coworkers/subordinates for signs of serious depression and get them help.
Life is to precious, nothing is that serious.
It'll be Grau because:
HE has a college education;
HE didn't cover up the Jefferson Tap fiasco;
HE doesn't have allegations of a questionable domestic violence past;
HE didn't get promoted to merit lieutenant because he threatened to sue the City when they didn't get to his number on the previous exam;
HE didn't screw up the Capt MB and Lt TP cluster in 25 which will cost the taxpayers overtime money;
HE didn't keep Supt Cline in the dark about what he was doing.
Oh, wait...It'll be Williams because he's "the black guy".
word on tha street is the moving boxes were for all his plans on how to better the police dept. quess he wont be needing them GRAU RUNS IT
Disaster will happen if Williams is given the nod. This guy is reactive, rude and he thinks that he is smart. Grau however, thinks before he speaks, respected by the troops and generally is a nice guy.
Anonymous said...
Can anyone recommend a good on site or in-home day care service around the edgebrook/sauganash area for a 3 month old? I would really appreciate some input from some fellow police officers. Thanks
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Research "Care a Lot" I believe it's on Central just north of Devon. Can't remember age wise but I've been really happy with their other location at Bryn Mawr/Milwaukee. What a great idea for some of our stay at home spouses, get licensed and become an "off hour" day care/preschool for coppers only. Since they are raising their own, the money taken in could reduce a part timer or two. Just a thought....
7/26/2007 03:07:00 AM
FYI, someone I know took their child out of there as it was discovered to have way too many kids there with less than ideal supervision for the kids...a perfect recipe for a horrible "accident" or "mistake" to be made at the expense of YOUR child (possibly).
At least we all know where we stand with Charlie Williams.
Who reallyknows anything about Grau? Anybody? I mean, he seems like a great guy, but has he done anything on this job in which he has left his personalized stamp on it? Huh?
To the officer inquiring about marital counseling or the need to talk to someone,
EAP provides counseling
TPAC provides counseling
St. Michael's House has additional sources and resources available...........I BELIEVE ST. MICHAEL CLOSED SHOP, WENT UNDER???? ANYONE KNOW?? BUT GET THE HELP U NEED, THERE ARE PEOLE OUT THERE WHO CAN HELP U...
I don't want a pdt in my car. pdt's are like an std, hard to get rid of.
FOP will endorse a canidate and when the ass gets elected they deny endorsing him. Case in point Lisa Madigan and Blagovich.
If you need someone to tell you who to vote for you shouldn't be voting.
If Williams gets the job no more big words in those case reports. And we'll all have to read the Sun-Times instead of the Tribune.
"Why, last week I couldn't even spell Superintendent, and now I is one!.
Anyone know why divorces cost $15,000? Because they are worth it!!!
"TPAC provides counseling"
Isn't that Rory Gilbert Strokes gig? Do not go to him, he does a great job of stereotyping& emasculating Male POs.
All the counseling services the city provides or is sanctioned by the FOP Suck. Find someone outside the department you'll have to for go the Vegas trip w/ the fellas, but if you thinkyour marriage is salvagable it's money well spent.
Mayor Daley will introduce Charles Williams as the next Superintendant of the Chicago Police Department on August 1st at a 10:00 Am press conference.
John Kass
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