Politics as Usual?
The Department never fails to disappoint:
- SCC,
Starks strikes again. Seems one of his "dollies" washed out of horsie school and went whining to him. Lo and behold, she's back in horsie school.
Doesn't actually qualifying for anything mean anything anymore?
Actually, no, it doesn't. And the fact that this person, regardless of gender, is lowering the training and qualification yard sticks for everyone by using political pull to get into a spot they couldn't qualify for physically, is shameful, dangerous, and an insurance liability of massive proportions.
A liability that we as taxpayers are on the hook for should anything happen.
UPDATE: One of our commentators puts it better than we could:
A liability that we as taxpayers are on the hook for should anything happen.
UPDATE: One of our commentators puts it better than we could:
- Great, a phone call and this fem is coming back to riding school??
What happens when she cant control the horse?? IOD?? Injured foot officers?? Injured citizens?? Then of course it wont be her fault...no, she can blame... uh... hmmmm... lessee........ dont rush me..... GOT IT!! Blame the trainers who tried to bounce her in the first damn place.. They didn't teach me... They picked on me... They gave me tough horses to ride...Boo-Ba-Hoo-Hoo!!
What about the other officers who left or got bounced out??..Is that grounds for a beef??..This really is the frickin' age of "entitlement"..." I deserve____________" or "it should have been me to get____________"... you fill in the blanks, you all know one or more ....Here's a novel thought....try shutting your mouth and opening your ears and you just might earn the damn spot!!..soon as she "passes the class and makes" the unit, maybe she will get "detailed" indefinitely to a nice spot with the raise in pay grade... happened before.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
162 Comments:
Off Topic:
008th District,
Nice job with the four car funeral detail in the suburbs. A marked lead car, a marked tail car and two unmarked tactical teams way out in the suburbs. The tactical teams did an outstanding job out of their vehicles directing traffic at various intersections in the suburbs, when I cant get one tact car West of Pulaski on any given day where I live. Who says 008 is shorthanded to give up 4 cars?
I am not a jagoff, I AM ALL FOR giving a car to a copper that is ill and dies while employed or for a deceased retiree, but four cars for a small funeral? My point is that 008 regularly turns down these requests, so my bbig question is that it goes back to the political hacks that get this service, when all of the other PO's that had no clout have their requests regularly turned down.
Before the hardasses say this is jealousy, shut up. My sole point is this is more political favors.
ALL PO'S SHOULD GET THIS BENEFIT WHEN THEY PASS AWAY, NOT JUST THE CONNECTED FEW! THAT IS MY ONLY POINT!
Meet the new boss....same as the old boss!
Maybe she'll get tossed from the horse and injured. She'll only have herself to blame.
Then again, just another dogass on long term IOD.
It's okay though cuz according to Phil this dept is 13,500 PO's strong!
More like 9,000 and the vast majority of those aint in patrol. Does the media even care that we have to down cars on a daily basis due to manpower shortages? I know the citizens who actually pay taxes might care.
The CPD's version of Brokeback Mountain.
Was the P.O.'s gun being stolen from his luggage mentioned yet? I forget if it was O'hare or Midway. So fucking shady it's sickening that these airport LOSERS can get away with this shit.
Come on guys this shit has always happened. Since when did this department ever worry about qualified people in units? Some of you will remember some years back a mounted female p.o. rather small in size was given a horse a little bit bigger than a pony. She had real problems controlling even this smaller horse. It was obvious when you would see mounted on details that this p.o. had no business on a horse and it was just a matter of time before something happened. But true to CPD for whatever unknown reason (clout maybe?)she remained in mounted. One night off of Rush St. I believe it was, the horse got out of control and stomped the windows out of a squad car I think it was and might have even thrown the p.o. Now anybody gonna admit they remember this incident???? It was well covered up as all "clout" incidents are but some of you old Tact guys or Rush St detail guys are sure to remember. SCC you know this bullshit has been going on long before Starks and his babes. It is the CPD "clout" way doesn't matter who the bosses are same shit different boss be honest and admit it has always been "who you know" never what you know.
If true, we demand a name be posted and media inquiry initiated!!!!
I'd suggest a CR, but we all know how easily those are killed for those with juice.
One more story about phone calls. Years ago I remember a range officer complaing that Lt F.B. brought him out a p.o. to be made a "sniper" on a day the snipers were shooting their rifles. Well as the snipers were shooting outside this p.o. was given his chance to shoot a sniper rifle and couldn't hit shit. Well later that day Lt.F.B. asks the range officer how he did and upon hearing the "sniper" couldn't hit shit Lt F.B. said that he would have to find a spot for this p.o. because the phone call to make him a "sniper" came from very high up. So like I said be honest SCC and admit never has this department ever cared about lowering standards,insurance liability or whether a p.o. with a phone call had any qualifications. Nobody on this job can be that naive to really believe any unit is on the legit.
This is the sort of thing this blog is good for, exposing bullshit like this. If it is indeed true, I hope this hack that complained gets shitcanned back to her desk job.
It's pretty hard training and a lot get washed out. Hell, even the current Mounted Unit C.O.'s kid dropped out of the training for the unit. You didn't see him asking for a special exception to the rules for him, did you?. If anyone could get one there, he could, I'm sure.
It's bullshit like this that makes me pissed to be on this job.
Hey SCC,
Due to my personal beliefs and since we are working on the old contract...I have decided to make the City of Chicago a Sanctuary City to all crime. IE: Any crime I see I ignore. Any illegal parkers are ignored. Any illegal movers are ignored. Any women with arrest warrants that are hiding in a church are ignored... Any sound impounds are ingnored...All DUIs are ignored...All UUWs, Burglaries, Robberies, Murders, & CSAs will be ignored. After all...Chicago is a Sanctuary city so no crime should be enforced. Until we have a contract the only crime i'll solve is Agg Batt & Ass to Police Officers. Screw everyone else!!
I hope they fail her again.
and keep doing it for as long as she can't cut it....
Why doesn't the person that was ordered to allow her back in speak up and say something... to the union perhaps? Or the person that failed her and now apparently isn't qualified to determine who passes and fails b/c his judgement doesn't count anymore. It's all determined by a phone call. How about our do nothing union getting involved here and start asking questions. Or other guys that didn't pass with the same scores/performance as her file a beef. If we just keep letting this happen things will never change. It's time to step up and call out this GED dummy for what he is and what he does.
SCC,
Please don't waste your ammo bemoaning this worthless broad/situation. While I'm sure it is quite satisfying to fire a broadside into this instance of political hackery, your talents are needed elsewhere. This is merely an example of one of the dozens (or hundreds) of similiar situations with which I am sure most of us are very familiar with.
Keep your powder dry for the upcoming Westside Rev. riots/OPS debacle(s). Then, shoot only after you see the whites of their eyes.
Oh, We are suppose to inventory the cash? When did this start. My mattress has been fine for the last 30 yrs. A GOOD THING ALWAYS ENDS.........
Im sooo fUUk&&N pisses. I "interviewed" to get their after "class action " 1995. I was very qualified Tall Male even though I'M white. Been around animals all my life "not only two legged". Very otivated. wrde horses forver. Did interview, no no no no answer. Why would they want someone motivated passionate and knowledgeable??
Yeap, don't you just love that 20% reserved for merit promotions and advancements to better units! The rankings for promotional exams should be posted or we should have access to looking at the list, that way we can see and make it transparent whom are the lucky ones.
Bicyclist shot by own gun
August 21, 2007
FROM STNG WIRE REPORTS
A man riding a bicycle was shot when the gun he was carrying accidentally discharged early Tuesday in the Rogers Park neighborhood on the North Side, police said.
The man was riding a bicycle in the 1500 block of West North Shore Avenue when the gun he was carrying, possibly in his waistband, discharged about 12:30 a.m., according to a Rogers Park District police lieutenant.
The man suffered a gunshot wound to the leg and was taken to St. Francis Hospital in Evanston in good condition, according to the lieutenant.
The man could be charged for carrying a gun, the lieutenant said.
Might be.....good thing he didnt kill anybody.
What, this person could not wait to be made a det/sgt so he gave her a spot with a pay raise. Dana put this person in a spot where there is a lot of responsibilty, what what am I thinking. Dana must at some level realize that the person is soft as puppy shit and this is how he rewards her. He put her in a spot where they can do as little damage a possible yet take care of them. It may not be right but its the Chicago Way! Hey Dana start making claases of the promotiion list we need people out her in the battle fields and this way you can reward all of your little helpers. THIS IS PRICELESS.
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What is her name?
Im sooo fUUk&&N pisses. I "interviewed" to get their after "class action " 1995. I was very qualified Tall Male even though I'M white. Been around animals all my life "not only two legged". Very otivated. wrde horses forver. Did interview, no no no no answer. Why would they want someone motivated passionate and knowledgeable??
MAYBE THE HORSE COULD "Spel" MORE BETTER THAN YOU CULD SPEL
Im sooo fUUk&&N pisses. I "interviewed" to get their after "class action " 1995. I was very qualified Tall Male even though I'M white. Been around animals all my life "not only two legged". Very otivated. wrde horses forver. Did interview, no no no no answer. Why would they want someone motivated passionate and knowledgeable??
8/21/2007 03:11:00 AM
Maybe they wanted someone that can put at least one coherent sentance together?
Im sooo fUUk&&N pisses. I "interviewed" to get their after "class action " 1995. I was very qualified Tall Male even though I'M white. Been around animals all my life "not only two legged". Very otivated. wrde horses forver. Did interview, no no no no answer. Why would they want someone motivated passionate and knowledgeable??
Do any of your reports get approved on the first try?
Anonymous said...
Im sooo fUUk&&N pisses. I "interviewed" to get their after "class action " 1995. I was very qualified Tall Male even though I'M white. Been around animals all my life "not only two legged". Very otivated. wrde horses forver. Did interview, no no no no answer. Why would they want someone motivated passionate and knowledgeable??
8/21/2007 03:11:00 AM
PROBABLY couldn't get in because of your spelling!!!!!
Geez! the department is full of people like this, what makes this gal stand heads and shoulders above her fellow appointed cohorts.
This dept. has always used bedfellowing, political connections
blood relation and my neighbor's kid to place people in position they aren't qualified for. So why is she so much different then the rest.
This is nothing new,We officers with time Have seen this go on for years. We are unable to move because the connected don't have to pay their dues.
ALL PO'S SHOULD GET THIS BENEFIT WHEN THEY PASS AWAY, NOT JUST THE CONNECTED FEW! THAT IS MY ONLY POINT!
8/21/2007 12:24:00 AM
You're absolutely right...
Well the Marine unit is no better. I took the test years ago was ranked well qualified, Yet during my interview the Sgt ask me if I had a phone call or if I knew anyone, I said no after that I got a letter that changed my ranking to only Qualified?
back in speak up and say something..
Oh Really! speak out what happens to a department member that speaks out. First of all they are on their own as NO one will stand with them.And second they will be called a disgruntled employee. Then fucked with forever.
With all the nonsense that goes on in this department and this city is this the best you could come up with? This is an everyday occurrence in this city but usually on a much grander scale.
lt.s test results....8 months and counting
http://www.themonastery.org/?destination=ordination
Lets all become Reverends!
Gov. George Ryan lost his appeal today and now must report to prison.
Let's hope he's in the same cell as the murdering dog, Arron Patterson. He can be Aaron's bitch .
Hold on people! I'm a Chicago Firefighter who has actually benefitted from your suck ass jobs. Case in point. When your depaertment and FOP agreed to a %5 pay increase for mounted and marine units we got the "me too" money for Haz-mat tech A and certified diver. At the time our department thought that those monies would go to their, like your suck-asses. But fireman being smart went out and got their own certifaction for haz-mat(over 1500 and counting)and enrolled in scuba classes that are currently being certified by the CFD as you read this. Thats %5 for Haz-mat and %5 for diver. A 10% raise for doing nothing more than showing up evry day. I would personally like to thank the FOP Lodge 7 for agreeing with the city that some people are more important than others. I see it in my paycheck evry day. Don't get me wrong. My father-in law busted heads during the days of rage. My question is, when are you, the men in blue, going to wake up some day and realize the politacal clout that you have?
this is exactly why there should be Federal monitoring of every exam done by the CPD. This plce is totally crooked. Thanks to little dick daley and co.
I doubt any of you were there, so be careful about judging the situation without all the facts. If this officer WAS the victim of gender-based bias, she has every right to complain and ask for another chance to complete the class in a neutral environment. This isn't "special treatment" -- it's called being treated with basic human respect.
Im sooo fUUk&&N pisses. I "interviewed" to get their after "class action " 1995. I was very qualified Tall Male even though I'M white. Been around animals all my life "not only two legged". Very otivated. wrde horses forver. Did interview, no no no no answer. Why would they want someone motivated passionate and knowledgeable??
MAYBE THE HORSE COULD "Spel" MORE BETTER THAN YOU CULD SPEL ................................................................................You get the point, or are you a little petty bitch who loves his spell checker
008th District,
Nice job with the four car funeral detail in the suburbs. A marked lead car, a marked tail car and two unmarked tactical teams way out in the suburbs. The tactical teams did an outstanding job out of their vehicles directing traffic at various intersections in the suburbs, when I cant get one tact car West of Pulaski on any given day where I live. Who says 008 is shorthanded to give up 4 cars?
I am not a jagoff, I AM ALL FOR giving a car to a copper that is ill and dies while employed or for a deceased retiree, but four cars for a small funeral? My point is that 008 regularly turns down these requests, so my bbig question is that it goes back to the political hacks that get this service, when all of the other PO's that had no clout have their requests regularly turned down.
Before the hardasses say this is jealousy, shut up. My sole point is this is more political favors.
ALL PO'S SHOULD GET THIS BENEFIT WHEN THEY PASS AWAY, NOT JUST THE CONNECTED FEW! THAT IS MY ONLY POINT!
8/21/2007 12:24:00 AM ....................................................They might just be popular hard working police family. their are three of them "brother" that does mean something. Blah Balh cant get a car in 008. Face it Looser 008 is going down hill. Move to 022 016 or surounding area of the city center, lincon park west loop south loop bridgeport. sell your over priced house in the nuevo barrio Grafield/clearing
OK, ALL CORRECTED.
I’m so fUUk&&N pissed. I "interviewed" to get there after "class action " in 1995. I was a very qualified Tall Male even though I'm white. Been around animals all my life "not only two legged". Very motivated, rode horses forever. Did interview, no answer. Why would they want someone motivated, passionate and knowledgeable??
They'll probably give her a shovel and tell her to shovel the road apples and still receive D2 pay. But then again, she'll probably won't have to do that either. Her name should definitely be posted. To bad for E.O., good guy said so himself that his pops would wash him out if need be. Of course, he took it like a man. Kudos.
I wish I was a Female. They get on, get the same pay, work the desk out of harms way ASAP-AKA-PPO, this allows them to 'study' and get to all their rank/units quick. Even when they are on the street, they call a 10-1 when someone calls them a cunt. If I was one of the working Females, and I know a handful, this shit would piss me off.
off topic
can anyone help? the loudon cty sheriff's office sent me a picture attachment .psp extension of my fallen cousin, only i can't open it.
is there some way i can email it, and someone can change it into a .jpg or something? thank you.
Kline never did this! right- his list was endless.
Fact: Mounted Training 14 to 15 Weeks. Maybe 12 + canidates. They only take about 5 or 6 "Passing" Canidates depending on the clout babies who have been on the mounted unit are now leaving to make Det & Sgts. The only problem is that by the end of the first week, those in the class with no clout (maybe 1 or 2)realize who the Chosen 5 or 6 already are. Amazing huh. It becomes apparent right in front of their eyes. Yep thats a fact! Funny thing to watch is, those with the powerful clout know that there's only a few spots available, then it becomes a battle of the clout. What's more, it's a horrible thing to know that those officers responsible for this so called training are given specific instructions on who those chosen few are, and how not to get them hurt to ensure they'll be the only ones left to train in the end.
The rest? Well, aside from being treated like shit, you can just imagin how dangerous it "just happens" to become for them. This is how they weed them out. Cause if everyone was treated the same, given the same rotation of horses, they would all be a part of the mounted unit - they would all pass!
One thing's for sure, there are guys on the Mounted who couldn't ride a bicycle, but are there because of some clout/political backing. To think of all the experience riders who have applied for the mounted unit who didnt even get an interview. I'm talking about people who have ridden horses since 5 years old, maybe even jumped horses. and guess what? even if they made it to the training, if there not backed by some clout, they're not making it. FACT.
Look at our Marine Unit. Remember the guy who applied with such an extensive background he "just wasn't good enough" to make it to the training? Well, that guy was a Fucking Navy Seal who could probably run the Unit let alone be top dog there. But hey, better luck next time kid.
Oh! And what about the guy who left mounted to go to the Marine Unit? Wow! He must be really qualified!
What about the Marine Unit guy who left to go to our Bullshit Helicopter Unit? Wow! He's a Drunk, and to think of all the young military guys/helicopter pilots, and current military training, who didn't even get an interview. It goes on and on people, and not just in these clout (D2 Pay guaranteed) units.
Maybe the trainers thought her clout was that of a different boss or politician. Damn John S. you fucked with the wrong Philly! Guess she didn't fall for the shitty treament, and took them as empty threats. But you fucked with Dana's Philly! Whew! Didn't know she had a "Silent Partner" besides the other Clout boss who gave her the green light to get there in the first place.
Even though we all know she's just another piece of shit clout baby I have to ask one question.
How does the Fucking Commander and the assholes who train these people sleep at night?
8/21/2007 01:30:00 AM
Go FUCK yourself you self centered, selfish, one way bastard. This is a pretty damn good job with good benefits. My father worked 12 hour days six days a week, no benefits, and when he was sick, NO PAY. He never complained. You want to deprive him of good quality Police service? FUCK YOU!!!!!
You’re a piece of shit and poison to the rest of the hard working men and women in blue.
When I was a Park District Lifeguard back in the 1970's, one of the other guards and I asked one of the tact officers who stopped by the field house (009) about what it was like being a CPO, something we were both interested in. He told us not to do it because the politics in Chicago and the Police Dept. espcially were too deep.
Hey, lets talk about those mounted horses. With the exeception of few, all those horses are donated phycho horses that nobody wants, and the only way they're controlled is by the most pain compliant bit in the world. Yep, and the Chicago Police use it. Did you really think those horses listen to those officer with a few clicks and whistles? Nope! Those horses are given the ole pain treatment. You'll notice this by two reins that are used. One is for steering and the other? Well, can you say OUCH?
So, we heard, that when the day comes for the trainers to get rid of a canidate(s) or "work on a canidate(s)", they're given one of the worst horses in the barn, or one of the horses that hasn't been out in a while. One of the trainers were overheard calling this "Dump Day".
We were wondering when this was all coming to light.
Any animal rights activist want to check out our Mounted unit and it's treatment of these poor animals?
Also, a lot of people are taking 'thirty days pending separation' and Starks is the guy who signed off on it.
It all came down AFTER Cline retired. I've been saying you will miss Cline!
Identify this miscreant!
To the asshole complaining about the 4 cars in the funeral procession. Let's see, the deceased had 3 sons on the job (2 in 008) and 2 daughter in laws on the job -- fuck you asshole.
SOS:
Ship Out Starks
Does this surprise anyone?
This is how Narcotics is run,
it is not the best of the best officers but the best of the best clout. Is this not a lie? How many officers went to narcotics without ever having made a vice arrest?
How many sgt's go to the detective areas without ever having conducted one investigation in their life but are now approving homicide reports?
CLOUT RULES
to the moron posting about 008 giving four cars for a funeral. Yes 008 is shorthanded and the 2 marked cars u saw Im sure were part of the CAPS office. Who cares? They dont work anyways. Thats what they should do when any officer or officers family member passes away. Its what EVERY district SHOULD do. I dont know what funeral you are referring to but the father of 3 p.o's recently passed and 2 work in 008. I HOPE that is the funeral that had the cars, He deserved it. And the comment about the connected get cars for funerals? May be the case, but these guys work in 008, what clout heavy copper in his right mind would want to work there? As for you whining about no tact cars west of pulaski? MOVE. If you need tact cars at YOUR house its probably time!!
This from a previous thread.
"And our sick leave, they abuse it
Officers go on it, for a face zit
No one stops them, no work but full pay
Their on for years and the bosses say it’s ok"
SCC, With the broadbrush, you are a Moron, why such a hardon?
Unlike most days you're on the money,
This finger pointing it's not so funny,
All you look like, is a FRIGGN DUMMY!!
8/21/2007 11:03:00 AM
Well, I'm not speaking for SCC, but it galls me that some, some, on this department have years, yes,years on the medical. I'm not speaking of the officers who through contract negotiations have earned this in their contracts. Every unit/district have these people who abuse the medical. Nothing is done about it,nothing. These people have it down to an art,and the tax benefit is also an issue. They come back for a time then,right back on it. And we all know who they are. Again if you're legit,no problem,I wish you the best and a speedy recovery. Just another problem the new Supt. should look into. The medical section knows exactly who these people are. Go after these people.
HEY SCC! It seems the Mayor is about to ask all City managers making over $55,000 a year to take ANOTHER UNPAID "FURLOUGH DAY" to help the City out financially.
How come no one seems to know if King Richie himself has ever taken an unpaid furlough day? He makes more than any City manager does, and we all know his wife is paid a bundle for her "charity" gigs on those boards she is a member of.
If anybody can afford to GIVE BACK in the name of balancing the budget, they certainly can!!
WHO WILL CLEAN THE HORSES ASS FOR HER?
Anonymous said...
008th District,
Nice job with the four car funeral detail in the suburbs. A marked lead car, a marked tail car and two unmarked tactical teams way out in the suburbs. The tactical teams did an outstanding job out of their vehicles directing traffic at various intersections in the suburbs, when I cant get one tact car West of Pulaski on any given day where I live. Who says 008 is shorthanded to give up 4 cars?
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You put your foot in your mouth. The father of two 008 district officers died, the courtesy we all bitch about was given. The right thing was done. No matter who's dad.
Maybe it is time to move out of 008. It is one giant gangbanger/hype dump.
Hey Off Topic Dickhead:
The Deceased has
3 sons who are P.O.'s
1 Daughter a former P.O.
2 Daughter in Laws are P.O.'s
Another son who is a fireman,
they are one of the finest families
and are always there to help others, whether it's fellow police officer or neighbors.
Those involved in the detail were friends and co-workers -- they wanted to do it....
Too bad J.C. and D. B. aren't in 008 anymore, you'd blame him for it.
ITS ABOUT TIME ALL YOU SOUTHSIDERS REALIZE ONE THING. NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, MT. GREENWOOD, BEVERLY AND SO ON THE ENEMY IS CLOSE. HE HAS BEEN ALONG TIME. THE SOUTHSIDE IS AN ARM PIT. NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE. SOME SUNDAY AFTERNOON TAKE A RIDE NORTH. VISIT EDGEBROOK, SUAUGANASH, EDISON PARK OR NORWOOD PARK. UNTIL THEN QUIT COMPLAINING. WE PAY BIG MONEY ON THE NORTH SIDE AND WE DONT COMPLAIN. WHY DONT YOU JUST MOVE IF YOU NEED TO SEE A TAC CAR ON YOUR BLOCK!
TO 635P.M. EXCELLENT COMMENT. MEDICAL ABUSE IS OUT OF CONTROL. A CERTAIN SGT IN THE AREA 3 SATURATION TEAM TAKES TWO TO THREE MONTHS I.O.D./MEDICAL EVERY YEAR. HE ADMITS HE LOVES AND DOES IT FOR THE TAX MONEY. MUST BE NICE AND NO ONE DOES NOTHING ABOUT IT.
Anonymous said...
HEY SCC! It seems the Mayor is about to ask all City managers making over $55,000 a year to take ANOTHER UNPAID "FURLOUGH DAY" to help the City out financially.
How come no one seems to know if King Richie himself has ever taken an unpaid furlough day? He makes more than any City manager does, and we all know his wife is paid a bundle for her "charity" gigs on those boards she is a member of.
If anybody can afford to GIVE BACK in the name of balancing the budget, they certainly can!!
8/21/2007 06:36:00 PM
No he has never taken an unpaid holiday... just check his tax returns he publshes.. they are always for his full salary...
also he is way to important to take an unpaid holiday...
Starks PIcture is in both the sups page and the Dep sup page ... WHAT AN EGO
to those defending the four funeral cars in 008 for a small funeral, I believe what the poster was saying is that there are so many rules that apply depending on who you know, that even in death you can only get help by knowing someone...this is not a private company where you can create your own rules. If one gets this benefit, we all should ....what is the problem with that......one relative, five, ten we should all be treated the same. 3 relatives on the job as justification for why they should get four city vehicles at a small funeral should not outweigh a 30 year vet with no connections having a request rejected. It goes back to the theme of favoritism. whoever called the poster an asshole is a friend of the familym but all he/she was saying was we all desrve this nice act
I moved here from the east coast for this job, I'm totally dissapointed in this department. I'll be moving on... and for those who stick with it till retirement GOOD LUCK!!!
I'm all for POLICE funerals having escort vehicles.I mentioned it here months ago. But, if they do it for one family they should do it for every family. Unfortunately, we have some police Families on CPD who act like everything here is their birthright like they are the Kennedy's or The Prince of Wales!
I think a special unit could be set up, whereby they provide the service for not only retired P.O.s but their family members as well. They could charge a nominal fee (which most families would gladly pay)which would cover the expenses of the unit.
All the officers would be paid for working their R-D-O, and it would be done by seniority just like CTA Special.
Perhaps they could even provide it to citizens who wish to pay for the service. Heck charge them DOUBLE & give it to POLICE free of charge. (Let us get something subsidized for a change.)
I think it would be a vital service..I mean nobody respects funeral processions anymore. I have seen many impatient assholes just cut right into a procession when they get a green light and then the back 1/2 gets separated from the front 1/2, it's kind of sad really.
What is the big deal? Look at some of the idiots that got stripes under the Cline regime. This job is a big fucking joke! Starks is a hack for the black ministers, and Risley is a hack for the 11th Ward.
Always remember boys and girls the firsts name on this job change, the last names stay the same.
Anonymous said...
Off Topic:
008th District,
Nice job with the four car funeral detail in the suburbs. A marked lead car, a marked tail car and two unmarked tactical teams way out in the suburbs. The tactical teams did an outstanding job out of their vehicles directing traffic at various intersections in the suburbs, when I cant get one tact car West of Pulaski on any given day where I live. Who says 008 is shorthanded to give up 4 cars?
I am not a jagoff, I AM ALL FOR giving a car to a copper that is ill and dies while employed or for a deceased retiree, but four cars for a small funeral? My point is that 008 regularly turns down these requests, so my bbig question is that it goes back to the political hacks that get this service, when all of the other PO's that had no clout have their requests regularly turned down.
Before the hardasses say this is jealousy, shut up. My sole point is this is more political favors.
ALL PO'S SHOULD GET THIS BENEFIT WHEN THEY PASS AWAY, NOT JUST THE CONNECTED FEW! THAT IS MY ONLY POINT!
8/21/2007 12:24:00 AM
That was my father you punk mother fucker and if I could have had a whole district there I would have.
Have you ever seen the marine unit swim in a pool before? I have, and it’s embarrassing to watch. You would think they could swim better, but their chinaman says they can swim good so it’s all legit.
This is the major downfall and bastardization of this department. Instead of actually having the most qualified person in the spot to make the department better, some nitwit gets the job and endangers everyone else. When the sh*t hits the fan, then they sue the department and say they didn’t get enough training or blame it on someone with no/less clout.
This can be compared to giving a gold medal at the Olympics to everyone that competes no matter how crappy they do in their event or even if they show up to the event at all. Do you think that the athletes would train 6-8 hours a day if this happened? Absolutely not!
The same can be said about the SSI thieves. Why work when the government gives me everything I need.
HEY FATA$$ cline makes his son sgt soon to be LT make po's commanders etc etc and i didn't hear anyone talk about going to the union just funny to me
west of 008 district is fucking fine. it's fine to live there and they'll never make west of central. houses are high priced, and there is no room for section 8.
I HAD TO LAUGH WHEN I READ THIS BLOG DUE TO THE FACT A CANINE HANDLER HAD HIS DEPARTMENT DOG REMOVED FROM HIS RESIDENCE DUE TO THE LIVING CONDITIONS AND SAID HANDLER D.M. CRIED A RIVER TO STARKS AND GUESS WHAT THE DIRTY LIL HANDLER AND HIS DEPARTMENT CANINE WERE REUNITED WITH A PHONE CALL. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE WELL BEING FOR THE CANINE JUST AS LONG AS YOU ARE CONNECTED. SAD BUT TRUE!
If true, wouldn't that be a violation of the Shackmann Decree, since the officers in the mounted unit make more money?
after reading alot of these posts i have one thing to say about the 008th district....no wonder the incident happened the way it did at durkin park. and they blamed the dispatchers.the 008th district po's are the biggest joke of the city and they have even reached an all time low which i thought was impossible.i have more respect for the 010 district that just chase tail on 26th street. 008 district just plain sucks
hi, my name is paul niezabitowski and i think that this department is a joke.
I'm all for calling out clout when it sacrifices officer safety, or promotes incompetence - but to whine about using CPD squads at a FUNERAL for chrissakes...come on dude - get some perspective.
Whatever happened to sanctity for the dead. I'm sure the deceased family members will never forget that Chicago's finest were there at their darkest hours.
Anonymous said...
ITS ABOUT TIME ALL YOU SOUTHSIDERS REALIZE ONE THING. NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, MT. GREENWOOD, BEVERLY AND SO ON THE ENEMY IS CLOSE. HE HAS BEEN ALONG TIME. THE SOUTHSIDE IS AN ARM PIT. NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE. SOME SUNDAY AFTERNOON TAKE A RIDE NORTH. VISIT EDGEBROOK, SUAUGANASH, EDISON PARK OR NORWOOD PARK. UNTIL THEN QUIT COMPLAINING. WE PAY BIG MONEY ON THE NORTH SIDE AND WE DONT COMPLAIN. WHY DONT YOU JUST MOVE IF YOU NEED TO SEE A TAC CAR ON YOUR BLOCK!
8/21/2007 07:22:00 PM
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Your Kidding, Right? Take it from a former northsider Mt Greenwood will long outlast Edison Park. Keep living in your dream world of denial, paying high taxes and living with liberal pukes.
Your bashing of Starks may be warranted. But what about the micro manager Chief of dick’s, Maria Maher. Anyone that has worked for her knows she’s concerned solely about her and her husband’s career. FBI look into their income.
How about the mommy sergeant of Danas' baby formerly 011 and now 620.. Dumb as Dumb they tried to dumb her she called dana and said you gonna have to baby sit daddy they want me on afternoons or midnites....After a street incident the street deputy asked the detectives why the female janitor was sitting in their office, wearing her gray sweat pants and black sweatshirt and flip flops. They immediately explained she was a new sergeant in the unit being trained... Our poor desk sergeant in 005 stopped her in the same outfit and told her that the homeless people are not allowed past the stairwell... boy was he schocked when she pulled out her star from under her sweatshirt....it nice when she brings the babies to work and they play in the 005 district gym or vendeteria begging the p/os for candy treats....Cline allowed this to go on its only going to get worse with these nitwits
"That was my father you punk mother fucker and if I could have had a whole district there I would have.
8/21/2007 08:49:00 PM"
I highly doubt that statement.
Ask yourself,should the world stop& accomodate your family
& not others unfortunate enough
to be in the same situation?
"They come back for a time then,right back on it. And we all know who they are. Again if you're legit,no problem,I wish you the best and a speedy recovery. Just another problem the new Supt. should look into. The medical section knows exactly who these people are. Go after these people.
8/21/2007 06:35:00 PM"
Point well taken, but you'd have to agree it could easily be taken out of context.
There's also the issue people currently on this job with catastrophic illnesses, while others still capabable but in a limited capacity are forced onto disability, because they are told no light duty jobs are available to them.
It's a matter of clout.
Perhaps the New Superintendent will address that issue as well.
Shall all us non clout officers hold our collective breath for that to happen?
i have more respect for the 010 district that just chase tail on 26th street.....
Believe me buddy, ain't no tail worth chasing on 26th street, unless you like your girls fat assed and gang tattooed
this dept is a fuckn embarrassment--i realize that bosses are gonna take care of their own people. but can the bosses at least make sure the person their promoting "meritorously" is somewhat qualified? some of the new sgts and lts in recent years are a fucking joke. also maybe i could be the commanding officer of the marine/helicopter unit. im not a scuba diver nor am i a licensed pilot.
No matter what anyone does to help anyone, you jealous, no life having mother fuckers will be pissed. If Starks did that, I am glad he gave anyone a second chance. Having been an FTO, I know how we can fuck people over just because we don't like them or want them in a unit or doing a job. My ex is a sniper trainer, and he can tell you how they keep who they want where!
Cline did that shit on a daily basis. The list is so long, it would take up this whole blog. And who are you to say who is qualified. What makes your opinion gospel. Get a life, or better yet get a wife that wants your ass and you won't spend so much time making everyone elses life miserable with lies and biased statements and opinions, you stupid fuck.
NO CLOUT NEEDED ! My great uncle retired in 1962, 008th dist sent two cars when requested in 1991..... They believe in "We honore our own" By the
way ,I'm still pushing a beat car after 17 years!
Get their ass Dana. Just keep shoveling shit to the shit heads. It is about time.
This Superintendent has balls and is not afraid of telling you all and your politcal clout to kiss his ass, that is why you keep publishing bull shit. The Mayor is not listening, he said fuck you very much.
Michael Sneed is an idiot and will soon be looking for a new job. I will seal her unemployment check with a kiss.
Dana is the MAN, so what, suck it in, keep talking shit, while he laughing all the way to the bank.
Now Cline is eating his own shit. How does it feel fat fuck! Your sorry as career has ended in embarassment and humiliation. Head of the Police Memorial, you could find another job! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
The Mountee candidate is an F/1. She may be a political pawn as she was the last female with color in the class. With her being let go, that would make the graduation class of '07, female-less. The news has run a story on every Mounted Unit graduation since the 70's. The feel good story usually includes an interview with a female of color. How would that look to the public if there were no females to interview. Word is she has athletic ability with no talent to ride. She has been ordered back to class without the approval of the trainers and supervisors. Not only was she not qualified but she is now 2 weeks behind in the much needed school. Documentation of her riding abilities were filed in her personnel jacket. If some kid gets killed by her out of control horse, I'm sure that documentation will disappear from the file. All foot personnel beware at details when a female on a horse looks like she can't control the beast....
Hey news folks reading this blog, show up at the mounted graduation coming soon at South Shore Cultural Center and do the feel good story. Maybe you can twist it into the F/1 hero who overcame adversity by fighting her way back through the riding academy to become the best Mountee since the former Commander,Tim Gainer....
PS: Newly assigned LT Bauer got this problem rammed down his throat in his first week. Bend over and take it for the unit. Welcome back!!
ITS ABOUT TIME ALL YOU SOUTHSIDERS REALIZE ONE THING. NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, MT. GREENWOOD, BEVERLY AND SO ON THE ENEMY IS CLOSE. HE HAS BEEN ALONG TIME. THE SOUTHSIDE IS AN ARM PIT. NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE. SOME SUNDAY AFTERNOON TAKE A RIDE NORTH. VISIT EDGEBROOK, SUAUGANASH, EDISON PARK OR NORWOOD PARK. UNTIL THEN QUIT COMPLAINING. WE PAY BIG MONEY ON THE NORTH SIDE AND WE DONT COMPLAIN. WHY DONT YOU JUST MOVE IF YOU NEED TO SEE A TAC CAR ON YOUR BLOCK!
8/21/2007 07:22:00 PM
.....................................................North Side Puss$#ie, your day is coming look around you they are coming from the east 17th 20th 23 dist from south 15 25 , section 8 they are relocating them near you. a short drive and they will steal your wifes purse steal your car etc. good luck keep paying those high taxes
west of 008 district is fucking fine. it's fine to live there and they'll never make west of central. houses are high priced, and there is no room for section 8.
8/21/2007 09:29:00 PM
.............................................................................Fine now but 5, 10 years it will be very different,..%70 latino
Related to the funeral question.
If the deceased is an armed forces veteran and the family wishes to have a uniformed bugler play TAPS, a non-profit organization, www.buglesacrossamerica.org can provide this service.
The Department of Defence will provide two service members to fold and present a U.S. flag to the family, but with a casette player to play TAPS. The live bugler is a nice touch.
Stay Safe
to 8;44pm cta special is not done by seniority..you are a goof or a guy who is married to a rich spouse who doesn't need the cash. good for you, leave special alone....don't like the answer ? i send my kids to catholic school and they play sports too. lemme guess, your kids play sports in front of your house and you tell them that is the way team sports are played ?? fuck you trailer trash !
There's also the issue people currently on this job with catastrophic illnesses, while others still capabable but in a limited capacity are forced onto disability, because they are told no light duty jobs are available to them.
8/21/2007 11:12:00 PM
As I said, if you're legit,I don't have a problem with you on the medical. What I do have a problem with is being off for months because your hand or foot hurts,upset stomach,Flu,headache etc.
Anonymous said...
to 8;44pm cta special is not done by seniority..you are a goof or a guy who is married to a rich spouse who doesn't need the cash. good for you, leave special alone....don't like the answer ? i send my kids to catholic school and they play sports too. lemme guess, your kids play sports in front of your house and you tell them that is the way team sports are played ?? fuck you trailer trash !
8/22/2007 03:08:00 AM
Just heard Starks is going to make CTA by seniority I work at 35th street bet on it happening before Dec 2007! Sorry to rain on your parade!
overcame adversity by fighting her way back through the riding academy to become the best Mountee since the former Commander,Tim Gainer....
Is that the father of the SGT. in 022?
How was he?
Hey What happened to the Canine blog? Some form of censorship?
Hey J.J. from 008, how does it feel. With all the b.s. you posted on J.C. and D.B., now you're getting slapped in return. It came back to bite you in the ass..
Race has something to do with this post. Believe me; I would not let GED Dana take out my garbage. Dana would have a tough time if he applied at Burger King. With that said, it's funny how white people get the pass on bullshit promotions. Remember when Molloy made his secretary as merit detective. She had LESS THAN 10 arrests in her career. She spent a short time on 3rd watch, before she went on light duty and only came off light duty when she went inside at 35th Street. A merit detective with less than 10 arrests in her career – what a joke. But, we are going to complain about someone getting into the horses. Half of narcotics never made many narcotic arrests while in the district. At least with Dana, it’s only the horses. Molloy made more do-nothings than people that work, but SCC didn't have a post to criticize his promotions. What about the two people assigned to the police memorial events, (MM and R(race director) getting paid from the city to do work for a non-profit organization? Shit: if I was Dana I would assigned to black officers to work for the United Negro College Fund organization while on police time. Both are non-profit organizations.
hey jackass have your wife get a job and you wont have to work side jobs to pay for school and sports.so stop bitching or find a better job jagnut.
Is this why Charlie Oliver is no longer in charge of the Mounted Unit?
To 8/21/2007 03:37:00 PM .....
Ima thinkin' a lilly livered pole-cat of the likes o' you aint got the god given sense of a jackass mule!
So what you have been riding since you were five?? Hey little pard' its a long way from your nice, cushy, suburban barn with the rest of the like minded equestrians .....How many times have you ridden a horse with a bus coming at you full tilt because the drivers dont slow down for you...Better yet genius, if it looks so damn easy, why dont you try to sit on top of one the horses under the el tracks at State and Lake?? Dont get me wrong, I asked for this and accept it as coming with the territory and dont want sympathy..
You want to know what keeps you in the saddle?? Yep, you guessed it..What the trainers teach you in riding school..and guess what, if they see you are not getting it inside of a small controlled environment like the unit barn, then yeah they might tell you that you might not be cut out for this someday on the street..Oh yes, contrary to what you heard crawling under the toilet stalls..
No also to what you heard, nobody is leavin to be made Sgt. or Detective; you gotta get your facts straight there cupcake...
And as far as rotation of horses, chew on this one Francis....If your horse throws a shoe and cant be ridden until the farrier comes, do you tell the Sgt. well Im not riding because I was only trained on Buttercup over there and if you make me ride El Loco and I get hurt thats grounds for a grievance and first let me call FOP and do a To-From with the duress disclaimer....and so on...blah, blah, blah..
So maybe you need to ride somewhat nutty horses in school to make you a BETTER RIDER..cause believe it or not, not all horses react the same to different stimuli..oh, wait a minute..How stoopid of me...you have all the answers except that is, with all your so called knowledge of what goes on in the unit, Why arent you there??...and dont say clout genius, a certain relative of the past first deputy didnt make it and Im not talking about Starks as First Deputy.
Sorry about the long rant but theres a lot of things that need fixing everywhere you look these days in this department, but the bottom line is this, you have to be able to control a horse..period.
One last thing.. you have to remember this about clout and if you had time on the job you would know this...Not everyone has it..it eventually retires and when the new regime comes in, I dont care if your clout is big as Yao Ming. If one dont like the other, you're boned..Save your breath next time for something you actually know about..
NYPD has a full-time Honor Guard for all active and retired Police funerals. How can we be bickering about the rightousness of supporting our own?
Some things never change, and never will so why let it bother you. Put in your time and leave smiling.
Ouch, sounds like the wb's with clout might be outclouted?!! Stop your crying!! Heard that the so called instructor can't even ride a horse to save his life???? Perhaps Sneed needs to know???
Cline's kid, Devine's kid, Cronin and the list goes on. Where was all the bitching when they were promoted? Cronin from P.O. to Deputy? No way in hell that was supposed to happen. But you losers bitch about Starks sending a chick to the mounted unit! You really should consider leaving your pillow cases on pillows not over your heads!
Your Kidding, Right? Take it from a former northsider Mt Greenwood will long outlast Edison Park. Keep living in your dream world of denial, paying high taxes and living with liberal pukes
What crack are you smoking? You are already surrounded from the east(east of beverly, and beverly actually) seen western ave lately? looks more like king dr., how about the north, evergreen park? lol what a joke, why is it nobody from the neighborhood shops there? gee I wonder, you are backed into a corner there and it will fall, garcia ridge will also go, they are already west of central, fyi.. i'll deal with an occassional section 8 here or there. Last I checked the taxes were on the rise there as well, as far as the liberals, it's easier to deal with them than most of the politically connected s.side jagoffs who know everyone and everything. 19th ward is political hack haven.
8/22/2007 12:04:00 AM
you were an FTO and did the same thing only now you decided to grow a conscience??
most FTO's I knew of either couldnt keep a partner(cant imagine why)or were dogass mutts the WC figured were better off on their own....so which one were you sizzletits??
Hi, I'm Dana Stark and I'm really getting a kick of all of these replies.
Hibbity Jibbity!
Don't be too hard on Starks or the rest of the Blacks for taking care of their people. They are only doing what the Irish taught them, and what the Irish have done for years.
the interim is playing santa early, taking care of his guys before his replacement is announced. Big meeting with the academy to see how they can accomadate the next class of SGTs. He's looking at 100 for mid sep and another 50 end of Sep to take advantage of fed funds before end of fed fiscal year. Doesn't want the same situation that happened when Terry quit. If you recall a SGT class was gonna start Aug 03, Cline took over and that class was cancelled until he decided who was gonna be merit. The good news is get your resumes ready cause 45 spots will open up at HQs and specialized units where these merits have been hiding.
I think a special unit could be set up, whereby they provide the service for not only retired P.O.s but their family members as well. They could charge a nominal fee (which most families would gladly pay)which would cover the expenses of the unit.
There would be like 20 or so funerals almost every day, how many people do you want in the unit? How many cars? How many vehicles do the escort? Do you have ANY IDEA of the cost? Who will pay for it? Why do you think we don't do it anymore?
The old Traffic Division used to be tasked with this job, but it was NEVER done for every one's funeral, not retirees, and NOT THE FAMILY MEMBERS. MAYBE a guy who died before retiring, but not by anyone but HIS UNIT (not officially by the department) IN reality, honors funerals are just that, honors for those slain in the performance or line of duty. I just don't get why anyone thinks it is an entitlement, and I don't see where we would get the $ to pay someone - and off duty at time and a half, where are you gonna get that money?
"This is how Narcotics is run,
it is not the best of the best officers but the best of the best clout. Is this not a lie? How many officers went to narcotics without ever having made a vice arrest?"
We know, ask that wagon guy that came from 013. It's all legit!!!
Poor Baby John J. from 008, now it's your turn to take some criticism after all the lies you spread on this site about D.B., J.C. and "Scotchbreath"
Just heard Starks is going to make CTA by seniority I work at 35th street bet on it happening before Dec 2007! Sorry to rain on your parade!
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Where the fuck you been? That's how it's been done for years rookie!
sounds to me like she is on par with the 10th district bimbos
Hey Crybaby
8/21/2007 03:37:00 PM
Didn't any one like you when you were a child either?
Name they guy who was a Navy Seal, I'll bet you can't. You Heard the story from someone who heard it from someone else and so on.
The guy who left the mounted Unit to go to the Marine Unit is extremely qualified. Call the marine Unit and ask any random person what they think of his skills. Even if they didn't like him, they would have to acknowledge his dedication to the job, his skill suite and his willingness to help and train others.
The guy who left to go to the "Bullshit Helo Unit" has flown helos since his military days and is a certified instructor. The Helo unit is new, in a department and city that refused to spend the money. It is necessarily going to start out slowly and hopefully devople into a highly profession unit.
I'll bet your family just waits every night for your sour ass to come home, pop open a cheap beer and moan about how unfair life has treated you.
You are one of the biggest poblems on this department; a lazy asshole who think that everyone else is one and just can't understand why noone likes you.
Great job Dana! But you have done nothing that phil and the others have done inj the past! dana could you amybe help us all and get us a great contract then you could be supt for life thank you!
The sad part is we all bitch and moan about politics on the department and the shit equipment we work with on the job. PEOPLE GET OVER IT ! Everything we say falls on deaf ears. This department went down the drain years ago and it will never get better. If you hate it that bad quit. I am just waiting for my retirement. I'm sticking my star between the cheeks of my ass when I leave and they can take it from there. It will never change, except for the worse until we get a Mayor with the balls to let us do what we have to do. Until then we are FUCKED. Not all the bitching and whining will change anything. It just frustrates you more. No matter who the next boss is, Daley is the puppet master.
To: 3:08 A.M.
Dude..Take a sedative or quit drinking the cheap beer. It makes you sound like a sniveling bitch!
Oh gee..I made an error. Practically, every other function or detail on this job is by senority, so I made an assumption and was wrong..BIG DEAL, get over it.
REREAD my post. It say's nothing about doing away with your prescious CTA special. Go ride the buses with Joe all day long you goof!
My whole *point* was that people do not respect funeral processions anymore. Many other Departments across the U.S. have special units that provide the funeral escorts for the public on a fee-for-service basis..BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE!
You should be happy that I am advocating a program whereby you could pick up some overtime by working your R-D-O in such a unit..should our department ever initiate it, but no one ever will.
You must have no senority on CPD, because you flipped-out just at the mention of the word. You act as if you caught me "banging" your old lady!
Well Pal..just hope that the Mayor doesn't lay off P.O.'s if the economy "goes south." It has happened in other cities across the country in the past, although it's a rare occurrence.
Check you contract book. "Last hired, first fired bitch!" That's right..THE SENIORITY WORD!
WWWWWHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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Stay away from my trailer park or risk being "bitch slapped"
Thats almost as bad as the female in 19 who just grieved being sent to a sexual assault job because shes a female.
"this dept is a fuckn embarrassment--i realize that bosses are gonna take care of their own people. but can the bosses at least make sure the person their promoting "meritorously" is somewhat qualified? some of the new sgts and lts in recent years are a fucking joke. also maybe i could be the commanding officer of the marine/helicopter unit. im not a scuba diver nor am i a licensed pilot."
We already have one of those. How about you be head of the TRU unit. Of course we'll need your daddy's name and in which bar he drank with the former Chief of Patrol. No experience necessary.
There are (at least was) some top shelf bosses, and officers, on this job… 15 years ago when my dad passed the watch commander that I used to work for three years previous (021st District) made a call to traffic and arranged an escort for the funeral procession. When I offered to tip or at least buy lunch for the two cars that were there the officers refused and said that they were honored to be of service. Because of the respect that was shown to a brother officer I would certainly go out of my way for another officer or his/her family member… This is something that I will never forget and has just solidified the bond of my brothers and sisters in blue. CPD all the way!
I wish I was a Female. They get on, get the same pay, work the desk out of harms way
Are you serious! What a slap in the face to the females who paid their dues. I get Politics forced on me all these fucking years, then an arrogant snot nose punk makes blanket statements about females. I Have been working in this filthy cesspool called a Patrol car in uniform in a fast dist for 26 years. I have Had numerous broken bones while working (IOD)also stabbed by a mental. Bad enough I have to deal with this connected Dept, yet also deal with your sorry ass. Cry me a river you punk ass.
Ima thinkin' a lilly livered pole-cat of the likes o' you aint got the god given sense of a jackass mule!
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Are your feelings hurt you weasel Clout Baby Mounted Fuck? Nothing you said was true. How did you get there you fukcing loser? I'm sure your the guy the officer that enjoys beaning the horses. What's next Cry Baby? Det? Sgt?
And quit crying about how hard it is to keep a horse still in traffic or under the el, obviously you shouldn't be in the unit. Maybe if you ride the fucking horse more often instead of shopping or eating while FleaBiscut's standing in the trailor for hours. Then all you do is ride for about an hour, and then it's back to the barn. So, don't make it seem like your Mounted job is so fucking hard. Fucking Liar!
There's also the issue people currently on this job with catastrophic illnesses, while others still capabable but in a limited capacity are forced onto disability, because they are told no light duty jobs are available to them.
So right This happened to my father, he was pushed off the job however, he is able to handle a light duty. Yet I know of 4 officers with Parkinson's Who are in Very Very Bad condition yet have juice??????? Fair NOT
Anonymous said...
Name they guy who was a Navy Seal, I'll bet you can't. You Heard the story from someone who heard it from someone else and so on.
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You're a Pussy! The Navy Fucking Seal taught at the Academy,Young guy, and smart. His Name? Well, to protect the innocent, I wouldn't put anyone's name out here especially for some clout baby loser like you. You're so caught up in your own little clout baby world, you now, like how did you get your clout baby job? Or are you going to give some lame excuse like, it's G-14 Classified? Prick!
And here's another factual story. So, this guy, trains County and State Police fucking canine dogs! But can't even become a fucking canine officer for our beloved CPD. You telling me he's not qualified? GO FUCK YOURSELF!You clout baby Skank!
Your talking like the clout shit doesnt exist. Go look in the mirror, slap yourself in the face, and go sit in the corner you dunce!
The guy who left to go to the "Bullshit Helo Unit" has flown helos since his military days and is a certified instructor. The Helo unit is new, in a department and city that refused to spend the money. It is necessarily going to start out slowly and hopefully devople into a highly profession unit.
I know one thing the Helo unit has one guy with juice, yet he isn't an American Citizen (From Ireland) and he received his license only months before the unit was started. (can you say no experience )
Anonymous said...
Race has something to do with this post. Believe me; I would not let GED Dana take out my garbage. Dana would have a tough time if he applied at Burger King. With that said, it's funny how white people get the pass on bullshit promotions. Remember when Molloy made his secretary as merit detective. She had LESS THAN 10 arrests in her career. She spent a short time on 3rd watch, before she went on light duty and only came off light duty when she went inside at 35th Street. A merit detective with less than 10 arrests in her career – what a joke. But, we are going to complain about someone getting into the horses. Half of narcotics never made many narcotic arrests while in the district. At least with Dana, it’s only the horses. Molloy made more do-nothings than people that work, but SCC didn't have a post to criticize his promotions. What about the two people assigned to the police memorial events, (MM and R(race director) getting paid from the city to do work for a non-profit organization? Shit: if I was Dana I would assigned to black officers to work for the United Negro College Fund organization while on police time. Both are non-profit organizations.
8/22/2007 11:02:00 AM
I agree sign me a white policeman with 17 years.
Thats almost as bad as the female in 19 who just grieved being sent to a sexual assault job because shes a female.
And your point is? Oh I see Female officers are good at handling Sexual assault jobs. you moron the job doesn't work that way, if it did then whenever I Received a job of a Mental disturbances I Can send you. Cry baby bitch.
We already have one of those. How about you be head of the TRU unit. Of course we'll need your daddy's name and in which bar he drank with the former Chief of Patrol. No experience necessary
What? try not to be shitfaced when you try to post......
the interim is playing santa early, taking care of his guys before his replacement is announced. Big meeting with the academy to see how they can accomadate the next class of SGTs. He's looking at 100 for mid sep and another 50 end of Sep to take advantage of fed funds before end of fed fiscal year. Doesn't want the same situation that happened when Terry quit. If you recall a SGT class was gonna start Aug 03, Cline took over and that class was cancelled until he decided who was gonna be merit. The good news is get your resumes ready cause 45 spots will open up at HQs and specialized units where these merits have been hiding.
Sorry, but we aren't down enough Sgts. to make all the people you claim he will make, it isn't happening, the present class gets out Aug 30th, it will be the last class this year, more than likely...
Anonymous said...
Don't be too hard on Starks or the rest of the Blacks for taking care of their people. They are only doing what the Irish taught them, and what the Irish have done for years.
8/22/2007 03:27:00 PM
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yea but most of the irish were educated and qualified
As for the coppers dad's funeral. He (they) are coppers just like you. I would be proud to assist in the funeral procession. And yeah, Im a working copper. Its the least anyone one of us can do.
Why the fuck is everyone bitching about the Mounted Unit? How many coppers are actually in it? How many are actually on the job, total (working)? It's not like most of us were actually going to get into the Mounted Unit or even try out for it, so fuck it, it's just a showpiece unit anyway. Shit, all the real fucking problems we have and all you can do is bitch about some copper and her fucking horsie slot, big fucken deal. It's bad enough that we have to worry about a lack of overall support from the public, our government, and our own higher ranks......it makes me sick, where's this "Thin Blue Line" everyone keeps talking about? It's supposed to be us against them, not us against us. Yeah, the qualified people should be doing jobs that require qualified people, if that were the case I'd be on the SWAT team or a bomb tech, but it isn't the case, hopefully I'll at least make dic or sgt, but I'm not even counting on that. At this point, I do what I can to back my fellow coppers up and keep the shitheads from migrating to my neighborhood, and could use some help doing it. Everyone on this job is a tool. You're a tool for the city for revenue, you're a tool for baby momma to get Joe locked up, etc. If you want to bitch, find another fuckin job, the Army's still hiring and with this little fracas going on, their standards are even lower than the city's, so they may just take you. Work anywhere in this world and you'll see, everybody's favorites always wind up as top picks in any line of work. Maybe if you stopped bitching, someone might just trust you enough not to kneebite them long enough to help you into a unit/desk job/sweet spot. If you're gonna bitch stick with property taxes, the rebrinds, shitty schools etc. I'm sick of it! Too much grammar school and not enough adulthood in this organization.
Tim Gainer, Sgt. Marty Gainer - 022, Terry Gainer - ex chief of Wash. D.C. and a ton more Gainers on this job and the State Police job(from when Terry Gainer was the Chief) are all brother, cousins, nephews, all 19th Ward.
Sgt. Gainer - 022 - left his cush job in Narcotics in hopes of Terry Gainer getting him promoted to merit Lt. (needed to come from a District) It will be interesting to see if Terry has any pull with the new regime....
Anonymous said...
the interim is playing santa early, taking care of his guys before his replacement is announced. Big meeting with the academy to see how they can accomadate the next class of SGTs. He's looking at 100 for mid sep and another 50 end of Sep to take advantage of fed funds before end of fed fiscal year. Doesn't want the same situation that happened when Terry quit. If you recall a SGT class was gonna start Aug 03, Cline took over and that class was cancelled until he decided who was gonna be merit. The good news is get your resumes ready cause 45 spots will open up at HQs and specialized units where these merits have been hiding.
Sorry, but we aren't down enough Sgts. to make all the people you claim he will make, it isn't happening, the present class gets out Aug 30th, it will be the last class this year, more than likely...
8/22/2007 11:52:00 PM
Why on the bid that is out are there 3 openings in 008 1st watch for sgts? I thought the captain there was a great guy what happened? did he change? is it the commander? strange 3 on the same watch are leaving?
god this site is becoming a bunch of whining crybabys!!!!!!....that unfortunately what alot of this site has become!
Anonymous said...
"This is how Narcotics is run,
it is not the best of the best officers but the best of the best clout. Is this not a lie? How many officers went to narcotics without ever having made a vice arrest?"
We know, ask that wagon guy that came from 013. It's all legit!!!
8/22/2007 03:55:00 PM
Yup, or how about all the black officers that were asked to come, NOT based on their arrest record and vast experience but only because they are black and now they can go buy dope and rock. Anybody can buy drugs, you don't have to be a brain scientist. Then these same guys go around like their shit don't stink, strutting around saying "yeah, Izz workses in narcotics dawg" "I'm da shit yo"
I see that maybe 15% of the guys over there do the actual work and the rest just continue to coat tail it and get the same credit. ahh, nothing changes in this department, I tell ya.
Thats almost as bad as the female in 19 who just grieved being sent to a sexual assault job because shes a female.
Unless of course the female is your wife,daughter,sister. Ever notice how these sexiest coppers change their tune when the female is part of the family. I got news for you little boy there are females on this job that can runs ring around your sorry ass. Get some self esteem.
DISOBEYED AN ORDER
The subject here was squad cars at police funerals. Some years ago a policeman died, I went to the watch commander in 010 and asked if I could escort the funeral to the grave site. When I told the watch commander who the policeman was he told me "absolutely not". I came in the day of the funeral and "borrowed" a car from the lot, had it washed and gassed up. Then I led the funeral from 22pl and Hoyne to Niles Ill.. Just so I don't get accused of not telling the whole story, this dead copper, a lieutenant was awarded the lambert tree in 1957 for killing three stickup men comitting a robbery. This same lieutenant was sent to the federal pen for two years for shaking down taverns. I believe any active policeman or retired policeman rates an escort for his last ride. My paycheck at the time was $320.00 every two weeks. Although I was tempted many times, nobody ever bought my integrity. Everybody makes mistakes, even monkeys fall out of trees. I'm not proud of disobeying an order but I would do it again. by the way, I payed for the gas. The dead policeman was Bob Devitt, his name is still on the wall at the academy.
TO POST 8-21 @1123PM WHERE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????FAT ASSED AND GANG TATTOOED? MOST ARE ALWAYS IN THEIR SUNDAY BEST BEING TIGHT SHORTS/SKIRTS AND HEELS. THEY LOVE THE AMERICANS AND ARE ALWAYS EAGER TO FIND A MATE TO GET THEIR PAPERS. I SHOULD KNOW, I WORK IN 010 AND HAVE DATED MANY OF THEM...YOU ARE LOOKING IN THE WRONG PLACES FOR SURE!
You Northsiders ought to realize that the enemy is just as close to you as he is to us. You don't have to be a "ONE" to be the enemy. You can be a "FOUR" or a "SIX" and be just as dangerous. Now, go have your wife kiss Ronnie Woo-Woo so some man can give her attention.
Anonymous said...
Cline's kid, Devine's kid, Cronin and the list goes on. Where was all the bitching when they were promoted? Cronin from P.O. to Deputy? No way in hell that was supposed to happen. But you losers bitch about Starks sending a chick to the mounted unit! You really should consider leaving your pillow cases on pillows not over your heads!
8/22/2007 01:28:00 PM
LOL...that is funny!
looky here and what not now he done did what with my g.e.d.?
How many WHITE OFFICERS volunteer to buy dope in narcotics? Just like I thought...next to NONE!
If white coppers were so eager to do it, they would block more black coppers out of the unit, and you know it's the truth. Any body can walk up to a suspected dealer out of an unmarked car with a vest on and a gun and order him on the ground and cuff him. It's what we do. But how many of you would get out of an undercover vehicle, or even worse, walk up or get off a CTA Bus and walk right up to the hornet's nest without a radio or gun and approach the most threatening looking MF in a crowd and ask if he's got rock/blow/weed?
How many of you would walk into a poorly lit doorway or hallway, or enter a dark alley, or a CHA project building, or allow the dealer into your car, and, under his directions, drive him to a secluded area to conduct a deal, hoping all the while that his surveillance guys haven't lost him in traffic? And some of you think the (black) buy officers HAVE IT EASY? I can tell you, very few officers of other races would ever attempt any of what I've described in this post. If you hate blacks on the job, get some help, find God OR LEAVE. Because for some of the tasks this job needs done, Black cops will be selected to do them. And maybe, just maybe, when the white case officer gets promoted to Sgt. and returns back to the unit in 3 months, maybe the buy officer will get a little recognition for his/her efforts too.
To: 8/22/2007 12:33P
Quitting the riding class and being told to leave are two different things. E.O. QUIT and so did the other guy you spoke of.
8/23
7:31am
Yeah same family that had a family member working on the range. Thanks to him thousands of rounds of ammo went missing and much was sold at gun shows. Like all else on CPD when the investigation got down to the guy with "clout" and the evidence and proof were quite obvious and overwhelming who stole the ammo the CPD IAD just seemed to look the other way and nobody was ever caught or punished. Just like Kirby and IAD with the SOS fiasco she and her rats looked the other way and the states attorneys office had to start the investigation.
To:8/22/2007 10:54:00 PM
Dude you have anger issues...I said "I asked for this and accept it as coming with the territory and dont want sympathy"..Did you see in print that I complained how hard my job is, no just trying to be informative.....Learn to read sunshine..You may not like what you see the Mounties doing or not doing but remember this numbnuts, WE ALL as police officers all get paid to do a job; regardless of who you are or in what capacity you do it. Not everyone can do it, wants to do it, has the training to do it or will personally suffer the most if ever the question arises as to your judgement or if you were doing it correctly,(read the headlines about police involved shootings)...Some take greater risks and some take none at all, some like you complain about the wrongs they see in others and never admit to the wrongs they do. So if YOU never took more than you half hour lunch, ran into a store to buy so much as a stick of chewing gum or laid down on a job because you just finished doing the paper on the last five domestics of which only one was actually on your beat, do me a favor..move out of your glass house and go get your shinebox.....I'll never admit it out loud but truth be told, I enjoy coming to work and getting paid to ride a horse and am truly sorry you are not, maybe thats why you sound as pissed as you do..If YOU ever get tired of doing this job, even though it sounds like you spent a lot of time watching what others supposedly do or dont do, maybe we can hire you to do all the beanings, since you seem to know so much about it and you sounded kind of envious anyway. You can probably do it no- handed. Have a great day and stay safe anyway supercop....
To 8/22/2007 10:54:00 PM
.. by the way, no, my feelings were'nt hurt but on behalf of myself, Mrs.Weasel and all the baby weasels, thanks for asking...knowing you care makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
Signed, Wilbert Weasel.
I am a white guy with a lot of years on this job, and I can tell you that Molloy and many of the white bosses on this job have taken care of more useless and incompetemt people than Starks ever has.
To Narc guy: You have a valid point but you have to ask yourself one question...."Why is that"? Why is that , that the need for black police officers to conduct buys is so prevelant? Because the crime is going on in BLACK neighborhoods...The dope is being sold on the street by the black kids NOT the white kids...and lets face it...we all know that a white officer is much more likely to be fingered as the police when doing a buy hands down because there is automatic assumption that he is the police...I worked in Filmore for over 10 years and I have worked in Narcotics, SOS and Task Force ...and I have NEVER seen an instance where a white officer went to buy dope where he wasn't asked if he was the police...or scrutinized to the point of stripping off his clothes to complete the buy...I have NEVER seen a black police officer asked to strip his clothes EVER. It is just a product of the society...the black dope dealers assume that the black buyers are not the police and the white buyers are...plain and simple. Buying dope is scary as hell and I have tried on many occasions and only suceeded a few times because I was white..I definately give you credit as a buy officer for what you do but no need for racisim...It's a job...thats all it is ...and you have an adventage because you are black and you also have an advantage to make more money in court due to the number of arrests you can make over the white copper working as a black buy officer so you should not cast racist remarks...and the white officer making Sgt remark is nonsense too...study hard and you will succeed...I did and nobody ever gave me anything on this job...I got what I got from working my ass off...and yes that means even to SOS and from there detailed to narcotics and Task force....I took Sgt test and scored well and made it on my own and the best thing is that I don't have to kiss anyone's ass because I did it BY MYSELF...think of that...Sgt is a shit job but the money is good...I'd rather be doing what I used to do and keep the Sgt pay ...The job of Sgt sucks...be careful what you wish for.
File a grievance and see what happens.
MOUNTED? All Clout Baby Fucks!
Sgt. Gainer - 022 - left his cush job in Narcotics in hopes of Terry Gainer getting him promoted to merit Lt. (needed to come from a District) It will be interesting to see if Terry has any pull with the new regime....
8/23/2007 07:31:00 AM
Merit Sgt!!!
What goes around, comes around.
Terry got asked to leave DC for hiring family...hmmm.
The F/1 Mounted candidate was back in class this week. Her return,means one person who has fought their way through the class to this point will have to be dismissed before graduation to make room for the Starks girlie. Word is she also will get one on one tutoring to make up for her time off and deficiencies. Rumor also has it that the M/1 Unit FOP Rep pitched the initial beef and made it racial. Seems he has some behind the scenes issues with administration.
This message is to "anonymous"
(8/24/07,7:27PM). "Crime is only going on in BLACK neighborhoods?? That's a switch!
I remember buying a couple of kilos once in Mitchell's restaurant on the 1900 block of North Clybourn! And the guy I was buying it from wasn't even black!!
And for the record, I've had to partially disrobe (and even show ID) on more than a few occasions to "seal the deal" with the dope man. SO have a few female UCs I know in the unit. Just because you've never seen it happen around YOU doesn't make it so. Stick around. And if the truth is to be told, far more white officers are promoted to Det. and Sgt. out of Narcotics than are AA officers.
Another truth is that the CASE OFFICER will always get more court time than anyone else.
In closing, there is probably more serious dope in 016 than anywhere else in this City. You don't know all your neighbors, or what they're really about. It's always a fun trip when we go out to the 'burbs to bust a drug dealer, or execute a search warrant; their neighbors never have a clue either. Stay safe!
THE TRUTH!!!! This is straight form the horses mouth. Any officer that has worked for Chicago knows how things happen. At least they should or you are just being a fool. That much I will allow. But in this case all of the comments and rumor are WRONG!! The present day Mounted Unit has operated since 1973 completely separate from the Police Department. The unit is unique in that NO ONE....!!! NO ONE knows what or how the unit operates EXCEPT MOUNTED UNIT OFFICERS. You probably could count on one hand how many bosses downtown ride or even understand horses. The department has always allowed the Mounted Unit to in their words " Take care of it self ". Is everyone understanding this so far!!!! ... Officers.. THINK with your head and not emotion. Now , you have one LT in charge or he is suppose to be in charge. That is another subject. Four SGT's that are assigned OUTSIDE to work the field. And last but certainly not least. The head trainer of the unit who ALWAYS stays inside and runs the barn. The rest are P.O.s who hit the street. This is how it works. The LT who remember is suppose to be in charge allows the Trainer to literally run the barn with no questions asked. This makes the LT's job easy. AHHHHH LT's pay without the work. What you end up with is ONE MAN... who is a frikkin Patrolman with no managerial skills at all calling the shots for the Chicago Police Mounted Patrol Unit. Is everyone staying with me..??? Listen closer now. During the selection process of picking new officers for the unit all of the usual games are played to get in. From start to finish until you actually make it into a the class. Celebrate..!!! congratulations you made it into the class.. NOT!! You actually think that you may have a chance to make it huh..!! Surprise surprise for you. The game is still on. During new school training there is a closed door (barn door) policy of NO ONE not even unit members allowed in the barn to watch the training. (Wonder why???) The Lt will stick his head in there sometimes but not for long. What happens now is the Trainer is deciding who he wants in the unit and who has to go. Most times this is already known BEFORE the class even starts. How is this accomplished.? THE HORSE!!! if they want you in you will not get a goof ball horse. If they dont then rodeo time hang on charlie. It does not take long for the IODS to start flying and people leaving because of the horses that they are given. In the end you end up with exactly the people that you want in. Interesting..isnt it. And what makes it look so good is that everyone thinks that they are the fittest and best riders!! Maybe... Maybe not. only the TRAINER knows ............... This is long but it is THE TRUTH. Now for the officer that everyone is RUMORING about. Remember he said that she is dangerous and cant ride. Well.... the horses that she was given ARE DANGEROUS. The horses are not trained and not even the trainers have ridden them. WHY? Those are the weed em out horses. One of the horses in the class once was used on the street for patrol and now is so bad that NO ONE will ride him. Unit members will not use this horse but new untrained officers are expected to. Some of the horses in the class are so bad that they had to pull them out for good. Yet, the female officer was able to hang in there WITHOUT getting hurt. NO IOD reports no missed days. Nothing. So instead of being trained she was shown how to rodeo ride. That speaks loudly for her potential to make it. Several men in the same class bailed out. But not her. So the weed em out horses didnt do the job on her so the TRAINER had to pull out the big guns and fast because the longer she stayed the better she would get. In comes the chosen attack dog SGT who is really a lame duck because he cant even ride a frikkin horse. Ask him yourself... hey sarge when is the last time you were on a horse ( year??) and will you be riding anytime soon.?? Is it possible to watch the SGT that kicks her out to ride the same horse that he says she cant ride.?? The SGT asks her to quit on her own. The officer says no... GOOD FOR HER I SAY.. How many of you so called men would stand your ground against management even when you are right. Many officers complain but do nothing. He then tells her that she has to leave and that she is removed from the class. Something that has not been done in the training in nearly 20 years because the weed em out horses would usually do the job. That didnt work on her. Of course everyone finds out because this is unusual and the questions start. WHY did they kick her out.?? One answer. ONE MAN the TRAINER decided that he did not want her there. Simple as that. The questions that has created the division is WHY doesnt he like her..??? Does it matter. Getting a job should not be reliant upon a popularity contest. Is it racial? Not sure. Fact is two other female officers are white and she is black. The other two missed days of training made IOD reports and were allowed to return to decide on there own if they wanted to stay in. They were never asked to leave and never said to be unsafe. But they quit anyway because they knew that they could not do it. That left one woman in the class. A black woman who has not missed days or made IOD reports. Only the TRAINER knows why he doesnt want her. And it is not because she is unsafe. That brings us to the present. The Superintendents office decides to look into the matter and clearly sees that the officer was not given a fair opportunity to be trained and was unjustly removed from the class. A wrong was righted. Actual justice. NOT A FAVOR. Hard to imagine... huh. What does all of this mean...??? Now the Mounted Unit... no the TRAINER looks bad. Credibility is challenged. So of course the stand is made and they fight her. Not because she is wrong but because they cant be shown to be wrong. That is why the Superintendents office stepped in. The rumors say that she is whinning and wants something that she doesnt deserve. WRONG!!! This officer has more courage than most men on this job. More courage than most officers all ready in the unit who would not stick it out like that. To return to a hostile work place knowing that the same horses are waiting there for you under the wrath of the TRAINER and the lame duck SGT. Even after being out for over two weeks returns and rides right along with the other guys as though she did not miss a day. One guy in the class who has missed no days was given the same horse that she had the day they kicked her out and COULD NOT CONTROL him. This could go on and on.... BOTTOM line is this. The female officer has potential to make it. Would be an asset to the unit. Would make a good Mounted Patrol Officer.... if the TRAINER stops trying to scare the crap out of her and kill her in that barn and just instruct like he is suppose to do. The officer can ride and it has been seen. But the focus now is on what she CANT do and not what she CAN do. Of course there are going to be a ton of cants when you are on a rodeo horse. If she makes it this will be one of the few Mounted Officers that will actually have EARNED her right to be there despite what anyone thinks!!! The Mounted Patrol Unit NEEDS TO CHANGE!!!! The image, standing and prestige of the unit is falling. Those inside have known it for years...... those outside dont. The class of 2007 is seeing it right now. The female officers classmates know that she should not have been kicked out and they will tell you so if they know it wont get back to the TRAINER. It has already been heard. The blessing of operating outside of the Department has been abused by Mounted Unit Management for over 30 years. THIS HAS TO STOP. The story of the class of 2007 is only the door opener. There is more that Police Officers of Chicago dont know about the Mounted Unit. A lot more.
"Anonymous said... THIS HAS TO STOP. The story of the class of 2007 is only the door opener. There is more that Police Officers of Chicago dont know about the Mounted Unit. A lot more."
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To the Mounted Guy who spoke the truth! and a long an truthful on it is. KUDOS!
NOW, To the Pussy Ass Mounted Guy who called me Cry Baby? All I can say you prick is "I told you so". Now what? You gonna call this guy a liar? He's Not! Nor Was I, and he's still there - you Jagoff!
Well kudos to 12:56. I don't have a dog in this hunt, but it was interesting to see people jump on this bandwagon though they too don't have a dog in the hunt.
Along comes 12:56 with a story that seems not only possible, but probably with the way personality and old-boys clubs work in the department.
Does the story in the post at 12:56 sound unlikely? Does it sound unlike anything that any of you have ever seen or heard? If so, please apply for a job in the CPD because you clearly aren't in it yet. This kind of nonsense happens all the time, and if its true in this case, the fucking trainer and the sergeant and the lieutenant need to be fired.
12:56 talks about the "truth" although look at the "reverends" in the media...They profess the same thing and it aint always so..The unit was the personal domain of CO Gainer for many years and two others have held the reins since then....
First up the Mounted Unit was reinstated 1974. Minor detail but okay..If there is supposed to be a closed door policy, how come you seem to know so damn much?? Wouldnt the closed door policy make what you are saying seem questionable?? How do you know what any of the officers are doing in the class or whom can or cant ride whichever horse with the closed door policy?? Maybe the policy is to benefit the candidates by keeping them focused on riding instead of who is potentially watching them, meaning veteran officers. Hey that kind of makes sense huh?? .By the way who else needs to be in the barn when a class is in session?? But what would an expose' be without a conspiracy theory?? So who is the leader, since every conspiracy must have a leader and wait a minute...who are you?? Hmmmm...Insider?? could be..disgruntled candidate or disgruntled insider, Im putting my money on the second one but really, who gives a damn..Stop trying to make everything seem like its all the evil trainers against the poor candidate..Are they perfect?? No..Are you?? You figure it out..If the trainers know who they dont want before the class even starts then explain why would they bother even wasting a spot in the class on a person they have every intention of washing out of the class?? Your accusations make no sense from one line to the next and most people reading this will see this..The Lt. just got there and he did in fact inherit this whole mess from the previous regime, so your point about the Lt now becomes a does not apply. The Sgt?? Oh you mean the one that had a surgery that would keep most people from even thinking about riding again?? I give a rat's ass about most supervisors and Im not defending anyone here but call it what it is..That Sgt has the same courage you credit others for but you fail to mention that..And if you got the brass to ask him yourself to ride a horse, Im sure he would oblige you but I wonder if you would if you were in his boots, knowing the whole story and Im sure you do..Maybe you would, and maybe you wouldnt..So tell me, where is the fairness from you?? Fact is a lot of people dont like some supervisors especially if those supervisors expect you to follow the rules and show up and do your job..most working officers know this, some seem to forget or been around so long they think it no longer applies to them.. Aww we all should know this already and people are going to think what they want no matter what..Present all the facts as they are not just the way you think they need to be..Mention the fact of having the class during some of the hottest days of the summer actually benefits the candidates..Horses tend to be sluggish in hot weather.. How about the new surface in the arena that is more like sand than the previous packed clay? Horses have to work harder to run in sand than clay thus they tire more easily..How this class does not have to unload trucks filled with hay and shavings during class..Hint if you are injured and are sticking it out in the class, and some candidates actually did this, imagine how doing that kind of work would affect your injuries..How about Townsend's son in law?? You forgot to mention he didnt make it..This doesnt intend to lessen what the class of '07 is going through as Im sure it is still a tough class...Anyone that gets on the back of a horse eventually comes off the trick is to make coming off a time of your own choosing..So tell the whole damn story and dont twist it to pit one against the other. The Mounted Unit never operated outside the department no matter what anyone says..Think seriously about that one for a minute..How do they know where any detail is going to be or where a demonstration is being held?? Dont most orders for any unit come over a fax?? What does that make them Batman working out of the Batcave?? True most bosses didnt know where the office was but now thanks to the actions of a few that is no longer so, which is no big deal. The funny thing is those same people are probably the ones that really need to get their act together so to speak.. No unit is perfect, just like the department isnt perfect..There are lots of things which should concern all of us but here we are being the disfunctional family the department has always been.. And you are right many things on this job arent fair but it goes both ways, it just depends on who the higher up is where you work..The clout baby crap is a double edged sword that cuts both ways depending on the hand wielding it and dont say it isnt..Its bad enough the public doesnt like us and now it seems like you are sowing the wrong kind of seeds..Im not making this a racial issue and hope you are not either..In general, I dont give a damn if people are black, white, hispanic or whatever;..stupidity knows no racial boundaries and ignorance is the greatest divider..but I can say this I have had the race card thrown in my face many times but I always try to remember what some man wiser than myself once said and the words were something to the effect " You cannot elevate one man by giving him what another has toiled for "..My dad taught me the same thing..Stay safe officers..
Bottom line from an old mountie. If you can't ride you need not be in the unit. Attitude also goes a long way. Team player, and a solid rider will always get you to graduation. We all had the crazy horses going through class, and some of them were assigned for street duty after graduation. If your good, you adapt and overcome. This unit has turned into a big political circus for non-riding crybaby's.
I HEARD CATHERINE THE GREAT COULD RIDE...
All of you mountie's, narco's, trainers, doggie p.o.'s, tact guys, gang intelligencer's, and blah, blah, blah, can all go to hell.
ALL OF YOU PUT YOUR GODDAMN BLUE SHIRTS BACK ON, GRAB A GODDAMN RADIO, GET IN A GODDAMN SQUAD CAR, AND DO SOME GODDAMN POLICE WORK. Isn't that what you signed up for in the first place?
The dept. should dissolve ALL UNITS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. The only unit should be your district of assignment.
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