Not Good News
- The Cook County state's attorney's office is considering pulling out of the police shooting roundtable process because of concerns about the integrity of the preliminary reviews of officer-involved shootings, police and other law-enforcement officials confirmed Thursday.
The cynic in us figures that the only reason that the State's Attorney would be pulling out of round table investigations is so that they could claim impartiality when they charge officers with manslaughter (or worse) at a later date.
Not that that would ever happen, would it?
Not that that would ever happen, would it?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
117 Comments:
SO WHAT GOOD ARE THEY THEN ?
GET RID OF THEM.
Let them go......
Then, "We'll" pull out of the BS '
Felony Revue 'process.
We'll charge em' as we see em'!
Oooops, there goes your [political] conviction rating for re-election.
C'mon now, you guys.. I was born at night BUT it wasn't LAST nite!!!!
Ol vet
The following are the alderman who filed petition in Federal Court to have
> the list of the names of police officers with 10 or more CR numbers in a 5year
> period is released to them for their review before the appeal process has
> been utilized:
> Alderman Manuel Flores 1st Ward
> Alderman Robert Fioretti 2nd Ward
> Alderman Pat Dowell 3rd Ward
> Alderman Toni Preckwinkle 4th Ward
> Alderman Leslie Hairston 5th Ward
> Alderman Fredrenna Lyle 6th Ward
> Alderman Sandi Jackson 7th Ward
> Alderman Michelle Harris 8th Ward
> Alderman Anthony Beale 9th Ward
> Alderman Toni Foulkes 15th Ward
> Alderman Joann Thompson 16th Ward
> Alderman Latasha Thomas 17th Ward
> Alderman Lona Lane 18th Ward
> Alderman Willie Cochran 20th Ward
> Alderman Howard Brookins Jr 21st Ward
> Alderman Ricardo Munoz 22nd Ward
> Alderman Sharon Denise Dixon 24th Ward
> Alderman Billy Ocasio 26th Ward
> Alderman Walter Burnett Jr 27th Ward
> Alderman Ed Smith 28th Ward
> Alderman Scott Waguespack 32nd Ward
> Alderman Carrie Austin 34th Ward
> Alderman Rey Colon 35th Ward
> Alderman Emma Mitts 37th Ward
> Alderman Bendan Reilly 42nd Ward
> Alderman Thomas M Tunney 44th Ward
Alderman Helen Schiller 46th Ward
> Alderman Joseph A Moore 49th Ward
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If this is true, will you be calling the FOP or your own lawyer????? The FOP will love this because no one will be bothering them anymore for shootings!!! Or maybe they will to buy the pizzas
The moron ASA's are going to now decide to start crime fighting against CPD officers????
Any officer reading this should know the dividing lines are now drawn!!
What a crock of shit...Devine, I hope you *** you lousy prick. You no good lousy cock sucker of a waste of our air. You are the lowest of the low you lousy motherfucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You are the reason the State's Attorney's Office is there you no good prick. What's the matter? You can't get your minion elected in your spot without being anti-police? You cock sucker, if you even try to elect the Pope, I would go to confession everyday and pray forgiveness because I will not vote for anyone you ask for. You scum sucking maggot.
The reason for a ROUNDTABLE is for the preliminary discussion of a police related shooting. NOT JUST FOR A POLICE OFFICER WHO SHOOTS JAGOFF!!! The reason your people are there, along with formally OPS and 5 other bosses was to listen to the witnesses in the POLICE INVOLVED shooting and determine if there may be criminal charges or if the shooting violated department policy. You were there for the legal part you fucking pussy. If the State’s Attorney even remotely thought there was a possibility that the shooting was unjustified or illegal, the police officer would have been ordered to stop and had to answer questions after her/his Miranda Warnings were read. Sop show boating you crooked prick, just die already... I can't believe I actually had a friend who voted for you....Not any more...Go fuck yourself.
Signed,
Sick of criminals.
SCC,you're exactly right,the Cook County State's Attorney is doing it for the exact reason you have stated.this was discussed 2-3 months ago.
what investigation takes place after a round table?
maybe we shouldnt train states attorneys investigator anymore.
SO IF THE STATE ASK ME QUESTIONS I SHOULD REFUSE?
WHAT DOES AN OVERIDE REALLY MEAN IF THE STATE MARKS THE FELONY FOLDER WITH A RED MARKER STATING THE CASE IS AN OVERIDE?
IF THE STATE IS DOCUMNETING DUI PROCEDURES AND IS COSTING THE CITY MILLIONS SHOULD THEY BE ALLOWED ON RIDE ALONGS OR EVEN IN INTEROGATION ROOMS.
Retired Guy,
I agree totally. The SOS situation started this us versus them relationship and it has turned to this.
Remember, many of those working as ASAs want to move up. It is a very political world over there. Just like the FEds.
Also, who is going to replace Devine? That will also play into it. He has been a lame duck for years.
And spiral downward of the Department continues....Get ready to be on the same level as mall security guards. Handcuffs, a radio, CAPS "how to use verbal Judo to talk an assailant into cuffs" guide book, and your ass hung out to dry should "poor innocent victim of police butality/just shot an innocent mother while shooting at other gangbangers" bumps his head during the arrest. When is this going to end?
I thought the same thing SCC upon reading the article. As usual, the investigative reporting is anemic. Where are the writers of yester-years
I hate to say this but I forsee that at some point we may not talk to ASAs like we don't currently talk to defense attorneys.
TO ALL THE CPD P.O'S,DET'S AND ANYONE ELSE THAT REALLY CARES IF THIS IS NOT A WAKE-UP CALL TO "STOP DOING POLICE WORK", NOTHING WILL BE. FOR THE TIME BEING OR UNTIL THE POLITICAL PENDULUM SWINGS BACK OUR WAY. PLEASE STOP
This dept sucks!!
Just remember people, today's State's Attorney's [A.S.A's] are tomorrow's Private Defense Attorney's!
I know of many State's Attornies who went into to private practice after being screwed over by the County over their raises!
Now, they turned to Private Defense Attorney's and are making mucho $$$$$ bucks and just getting people off of charges left and right, because they know the Criminal Court system and our Police procedures and our General Orders!
All Lawyers are NOT our friends! They will screw you in a New York second, if they thought it would make a name for them in the Headlines!
Example: Look at the P.O. in 025 who did all of the D.U.I. arrests! It was an A.S.A. who threw him under the bus!
They never belonged there in the first place. A tape recording or a court reported should be used to memorialize the statements of the witnesses. If the possibility of charging the officer arises, then the officer should be given his criminal rights and excused from the remainder of the proceedings and the matter then submitted to the State for a decision on whether to go forward or not. Why should the prosecutor be given the opportunity for a "free" statement from the involved officer?
Whole procedure always has been nonsense!
Bob Milan has never liked the Chicago Police Department.
He should not be running for the Office of State's Attorney but instead should be asking to be appointed the head of the Public Defender's Office
Are we going to disband the ASA ride along program?
Was Amy Jacobson trick or treating at Drew Peterson's house too?
Anonymous said...
I thought the same thing SCC upon reading the article. As usual, the investigative reporting is anemic. Where are the writers of yester-years
11/03/2007 06:59:00 AM
The only reporter who is left that is "fair and balanced" is John kass,and he is not a snake reporter! If we have something we need to get out tell Kass, fuck the city politicians and the "clout babies." As far as Devine did he ever go to work? Or did he stay at his 4 season "summer Home." Another daley pal who does nothing but fuck the police! No work no show t is daley and company, but with the addition of "fuck the workers"!
Who cares. Put your blue lights on and drive to the scene at 30 MPH. Why would you risk getting screwed over by this city for trying to be a Police Officer.
Think of your family and your future. This will pass if we stay together. Just let it go to hell. Protect your family and home, the hell with the rest.
Answer your calls and thats it. If you do Police work and get jammed up. Sorry but you deserve it then for being stupid.
Lets not forget about the guys from TRU who have had their shooting RE-OPENED by Devine in order for him to get re-elected.
This was after his own States Attorney's Office and round table declared it a good shoot.
The time to lay down in NOW people. Do not risk your freedom, pension, house, job when it is clear now even the State's Attorney's office will hang you out to dry!
19p and move on!
This is bad.
All this does is tells all the PO's, you had better stop and think long and hard before you pull that trigger.
And when you stop and think at the moment of truth, you very well might get your head blown off.
I am two seconds away from just becoming a dogass, it seems the safest bet.
Much ado about nothing. WHy is everyone getting worked up. If it was a bad shooting ... the ASA would have charged the officer anyway. The would have charged him if the ASA was present at the round table or not. I completely do not understand the problem. Did you feel that if the ASA is present at a round table in a "bad shooting" you would not be charged? WHo gives a shit id the ASA is at the round table. What possible benfit is there to having the ASA at the round table? ANd how could the fatc that the ASA is absent from the round table be worse for the police officer? What the fuck is going on here? Why would anyone care one way or the other? I am completely at a loss here?
Lay down STOP doing shit!
All Tac Goofs; Bid for the Watch for next year.
Make sure your families are "protected".
At a police-related shooting, a few weeks back, one of the first questions asked by the ASA (not at the roundtable but prior) was the number of CR #'s the involved officer had.
Should have seen it coming. I hope we confront the Democratic candidates seeking the nomination and ask them if they agree with this nonsense because one of them will win.
Anonymous said...
SHOULD THEY BE ALLOWED ON RIDE ALONGS OR EVEN IN INTEROGATION ROOMS.
11/03/2007 04:03:00 AM
The last time I had an ASA from Felony Review in to take a written statement from a bonifide bad guy [did 26 years on a murder] he was finishing his 2nd Big Mac as they spoke. The guy was a coffee hound [like myself] and we were downing our 2nd cups of java. After taking his written statement on the attempt murder, the ASA asked me if I would leave the room so they could talk in private [you know, to ask if I had threatened the guy, that he would be killed if he didn't finish every last bite of the food I brought him...]. I told the ASA she could talk to him now, that I wasn't going to leave the room and let her get fucked up so the bosses could then fuck me over for leaving a prisonner unguarded. The arrestee [I think ready to go back inside, as he was not adapting too well being out] was sharp and quickly added that he would LOVE to talk with the ASA alone, that she reminded him of the whore he had strangled years before...
ASA turned pale, left the room, charges approved without the usual CI bullshit, canvassing for another imaginary witness, etc.
Old boy and I had a good laugh over our 3rd cup of Dunkin Donuts finest...
Fuck the ASAs, even when the ink drys on their law degrees, couldn't find their way back to 26st and Cal without a map.
SCC,
You may remember posts about a couple of officers that spoke to the Tribune about shootings they were involved in. You know a big story is in the pipeline over there. The State's Attorney obviously know this too. That's why he's pulling out of the round tables. In may opinion, it's quite a CYA chickenshit move.
Who wants to be the first one without a chair???
Perhaps it is truly time to stop working,lay back,take it easy,answer calls, back up officers and nothing more.I hope to GOD I'm never in a shooting, not just because I really don't ever want to hurt of kill anyone but also because I think I might be railroaded into prison by those that will monday-mornig quarterback it to death. Hell,we have recently seen,a good sgt. in 017 was just stripped w/o just cause or due process for defending his home and family at his home. If you can't even defend your family and home where the hell are we?What are we supposed to do?I for one will never allow myself to be a stepping stone for some lawyer who wants to make a name for himself, no ride along with me or it will be a very boring night.I don't think all lawyers are bad, but when you try to railroad cops into being fired or prison you have seriously crossed the line.I don't know who the cop is who did all the DUI's and is now looking at being fired, but are you trying to tell us his arrestee's weren't drunk?When I do a narcotics surveillance and the dealer has his dope hidden somewhere or even buried in the ground, it's not his because it wasn't on him? Or even if it is ON him, it's his uncles pants so it's not his? You guys can nitpick anything way beyond what is needed.What you will get is what you deserve, do nothing cops who don't want to risk their job,family,house,future,or prison. The 1st and 16th is now the only way to go.To hell with you,your politics,this city and everyone in it.
I've been to more round tables than the average police officer. (not as the shooter aka offender... just kidding)
The ASA's assigned to the round table are newer. Thus they aren’t as educated on "all the angles"
They sit there and don’t ask questions. If an issue came up they should address it. Either positive or negative for the officer involved.
Also round table is solely for the purpose of administrative procedures review. NOT CRIMINAL.
Also ASA should be there because they will be taking handwrittens from the witnesses and from the dead offender (I know jokes)
If you shooting is ruled justifiable and new evidence comes to light, there is no reason that a shooting cant be reclassified. leaving no egg on the face of the ASA.
The street deputy rules on the round table the ASA does not. no video or audio recording is kept no one is under oath,
Its is a Preliminary and ADMINISTRATIVE process. that is all.
Shoot straight people
the worst part of this whole thing is i feel that since i came on this job i went from being a working man trying to survive and support my family to being thought of as a sneak and a criminal. i have no desire to do this job anymore, i'm tired of being sick to my stomach everytime i go to work because it seems that no matter what i'm wrong and on top of it you are expected to go out and be proactive, I don't understand? I've never been a complainer, I've been a positive person my entire life but I am truly DONE. I know there will be some schmuck that will get on here and start preaching with that "dog" bullshit so before you start...stop I don't want to here it, I am biding my time until I can get outta here and I suggest the same for anyone else who can.
The so called Round Table is a farce anyway. It accomplishes nothing but carressing the egos of bosses who attend and ask inane, uninformed, and downright stupid questions of the investigating detectives. It scares witnesses out of testifying and has no positive aspect.
It's actually comical to see some of our stumbling bosses who feel compelled to participate in the discussion. So they ask pertinent questions like ..Just how wide is the sidewalk at that location? Or ....Were there any CTA busses passing by at the time and do u happen to have the CTA bus schedule available. Or my favorite, Det. do you know the candlepower of the streetlight at that location? Round tables should be used for dinner, not micro-managing Detectives investigations.
go to work respond to your calls in a safe manner write a report for everything. More crime reported equals more police hired. take lunch and two personals. down your car for anything wrong with it. relax and remember the only thing important is going home at the end fthe day. always back each other up but dont worry about the idiots that live in this city. Ignore the beast write the report laugh alot and go home.
Hey, Sick of crimimals.
Are you living in a box? Devine is no longer the Cook Co. State's Attny.
To 0654 AM
As a mall security guard, I am offended. Don't lump me in the same category as you.
So, who fronts for the pizza now?
We are DONE doing police work!!!
When the city turns into the next Detriot that the politicians
This place is such a JOKE!
Lets list all the silent Alderman that stand by and watch us get hung out to dry! The do nothing 11 th ward guy at the top of the list
Most of you have no idea what a round table really is. It is an informal panel to determine administative issues regarding shootings. It is copmposed of a dectective, the Street Deputy, a commander and OPS. The State's Attorney was and is not required; they are invited.
There are no real formal procedures regarding the round table excedpt for its make up. It was to be used to get information to the Superintendent and to determine OPS involvement. It was only designed as an administrative and investigative tool.
THEY ALL SUCK ANYWAY.... CAN'T FIND A JOB ANYWHERE ELSE AND SETTLE FOR 55K A YEAR
Alderman Willie Cochran 20th Ward
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Isn't he recently retired CPD?
Oh how soon we forget who's side we are on, you sell-out fuck.
36TH WARD BANKS.....HOLY COW ...
HE DIDN'T PETITION
THANKS FOR SOMETHING
WE NEED SOMEONE TO DO GO ON A SPREE AND LET THIS SHIT HAPPEN TO THEM AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS
COP AT HOME BRICK LANDS UP IN FRONT OF HIM = STRIPPED
WTF
GET INTO A SHOOTING NO ROUND TABLE = FUCKED
LET THIS CITY GO A DAY OR TWO WITHOUT US.... FUCKEM LOAD UP ON AMMO
"maybe we shouldn't train states attorneys investigators anymore?
i wasn't aware that we did
they mostly tend to be retired cpd so whats to train
In the coming days look for a big expose in the Tribune about the whitewash process that is done in the review of police shootings. The roundtables are a joke. The top brass act like a bunch of clowns who show up just for the free pizza. The Tribune series will be highly critical of the dept.
i hope that they will neve see any cooapration from the public like we do I DID NOT SEE SHIT because they cant figure out there head from there ass because they think there good but a lot of times are useless.
You know I hate to say this, but back in the day, oh 30 years ago or so, no one relished getting in a shooting - although we may have shot more people back then, but the way the shootings were looked at was much more stringent than today, I think that the pendulum is swinging back toward placing us under a magnifying glass again, and not just rubberstamping stuff.
Now, it isn't a happy situation, and we can somewhat blame this on the SOS stuff, but it also is part of a larger situation involving the reverends, attorneys as well as the media and the Burge stuff. Regardless of the truthfulness of what is being portrayed, the "public" will generally - at least outwardly- believe whatever the media decides to throw at them. Right now, we aren't looking very good, and there are people/groups out there that don't want us to look good, and they are keeping the heat up... The "department" is going to have to take a more stringent stance on just about everything, which means each of us will be scrutinized continually. We will be found to be wrong when we believe we are right... this is going to happen and whatever pain anyone is going through right now is not gonna get better for a while. (if ever)
Enjoyed the job, locked a lot of bad guys up, and let my conscience guide me, what is right is right.
After 22 years I'm done.
No more proactive policing.
Hey citizens of Chicago, grab your ankles, once the criminal element figures out we are just
reactionary, no place will be safe.
Use your heads people, take care of your families, and
keep backing each other up.
The politicians are the ones that will have to answer the question as to why jr. was shot in gang crossfire.
Simple truth is this is the way for the ASA to take a step back and see what type of "spin" the rev and the media wants to put on the shooting. Sadly this is what makes Shitcago politics work so well. All these polititions will look like superstars after seeing which direction the media wants them to take and the poor PO will be a sacraficial lamb.
Word of advise, we all hate lawyers but its time to start to figure out which ones the best for your future defense.
WHAT HAS R UNION DONE FOR US. THEY SUCK AND THATS BEING NICE. WHAT HAS FRANKIE d DONE FOR US? LETS GET HARV INTO OFFICE. VOTE FOR HARV.
As I said before here, Dick Devine is a Daley-type weasel, who is definately not to be trusted. Also, the round table is unconstitutional to P.O.'s who have less rights than the criminal they confronted doing their job. Furthermore, the FOP is a horse-shit excuse for a Union. Watch what U do out there, cameras are just about everywhere. This is the way city Hall and Crook County wanted it, so be it. Beat them at their own game. And, shop and buy gas outside Shitcago and Crook County if possible. Fuck this City.
How many people does it take to operate a 10-4 unit ? 4(2 po's and their private attorneys).
Hey SCC, it's real nice that you have no problem posting the libel and slander about the Captain in 017, yet when someone presents you with the FACTS regarding the sergeant who was stripped, you won't post that.
Everyone who keeps asking about what really happened, forget it. The truth is that SCC isn't about to admit that this Capt. was not the one responsible for any of this mess. Maybe if the truth had been told from the start, none of this would be an issue. But as usual, it wasn't.
Guess it would just be better to have had her blow it off too, and wait for the headlines next week about the "cover up". You guys better pull your heads out of your asses. It's no wonder at all why the media has a field day with this completely fucked up "profession"!
1 mover, 5 parkers, 1 bus check, a park check and a lot of 19-pauls. The old timers told me that 35 years ago and they were right then and it is right now. Arrest only as last resort and only shoot if you are in danger if imminent death.
Live to see your pension and grandchildren and don't get indicted.
The day I came on an old timer told me "It's all bullshit." still true.
I have 10 years on with CPD and I am leaving to take a job with a north suburban PD next month. I know personally of seven or eight more top notch PO's that are leaving as well.
I cannot work in this ceasepool city anymore. I am off to a new city where Officers are appreciated and not lambasted every day by politicians, the citizens and the media.
Way to go Chicago, keep driving the working police out of this city or just to plain stop working.
You'll regret it.
Fine Citizens of Chicago, now hear this....
I have been a working PO for the past 8 yrs.
No more.
I told myself the day I have to worry about losing my freedom and/or job is the day I lay down and do nothing more than answer my calls.
That day is here.
And if you think I am the only one, SCC, find a way to do an online poll here.
Maybe the fine citizens would love to see the results.
stop being the police , get your check , pay the bills, see crime rise.. no more intervetion...
Having been involved in quite a few round tables as a detective I can honestly say that the dumb fuck ASA sitting in on the round table is the ASA with the least amount of experience working that night, and more than likely the ASA who is not well liked by his or her supervisor. They bring nothing to the table and NEVER ask any questions. By the time they arrive the detectives have already concluded their investigation. No input is needed from the ASA or any of the other misfits who show up at the round table. It is all on the detectives. And the very first question "We", the detectives ask, is if a CR number is going to be initiated, if the answer is "yes" then NONE of the police officers involved will utter a word. It's that simple. And for your information most of the detectives assigned to police shootings are very experienced and would not allow some dipshit who finished in the bottom half of law school to participate in, or give us any direction with regard to the investigation.
Most of these fucking ASAs grew up in La La land and have no idea what goes on. In case you haven't noticed the majority of ASAs are now women. Their jobs are nothing more than something for them to do, a social event, if you will. They're married to rich men and take this job so they can get out of the house and "hang out with the girls". I, for one, will be glad if none of these dumb fucks every show up again, at a round-table or a homicide. WE can a lot better without them....
If the SAO pulls out of round tables it would mean that any subsequent questioning would be only for the purpose of criminal inquires against the police officer. In that case the officer would be wise to request an attorney at that time, no exceptions.
GET YOUR OWN ATTORNEY (NOT A REAL ESTATE GUY OR THE GUY THAT DOES YOUR WILL)DON'T RELY ON FOP.
I used an FOP attorney once and all he did was agree with the U.S. Attorney, Civil Rights Div. and with the defendants scumbag attorney (who did nothing but give money to the 26th St. Judge who went to jail eventually).
USE YOUR OWN HEAD, LISTEN TO THE OLD TIME DETS. TRUST NO ONE ELSE.
If the investigation is a criminal one the authorites have to give you your criminal rights (NOT ADMINISTRATIVE RIGHTS) you don't have to talk when given your criminal rights and your a fool if you do. These young ASAs ae stupid and don't care if they screw you up. Be careful who you talk to.
For those who have never been involved in a Roundtable I understand your concern. However, let me say an ASA assigned to a police shooting has about as much value to the investigation as Frank DiMaria when he "forgets" to order the pizzas. What I mean is typically the ASA’s from felony review are USELESS!
For Clarity sake let me explain.
Pre-Roundtable: An ASA from felony review is dispatched and arrives at the Area (not the scene of the shooting) and just sits in the corner of the respective Area until the Roundtable is called. They normally do not ask for paperwork they just play on the internet and make personal phone calls and stay out of the way- We detectives appreciate this gesture, Thank you.
Roundtable: The ASA introduces himself or herself along with everyone else at the INFORMAL FACT GATHERING DISCUSSION. They almost NEVER ASK SHIT. Why? There is no phone to call Darren, Fabio or Hielengetter on during the meeting and they would be chastised for thinking if they did such a thing.
Side note: After all the witnesses and coppers are interviewed and immediately prior to the shooting member giving their account of events of what took place, the FOP Rep stands up and openly asks the ADS and OPS investigators if they anticipate a CR#.
Post Roundtable: The ASA fills out the folder and puts "dude's" RAP sheet in it and leaves for an extended breakfast at Hollywood Grill.. THE END.
Truly,
Chicago Police Dept.
Detective Division.
There hasn’t been any quality ASAs in several years other than the poor bastards stuck doing a second or third stint as a supervisor on felony review. In fact, there are even ASAs on Felony Review that have the balls to ask the detectives if we (the dets) think the police are lying in certain cases? Cases that would NEVER warrant such a question. Im glad they’re gone!
THEY ALL SUCK ANYWAY.... CAN'T FIND A JOB ANYWHERE ELSE AND SETTLE FOR 55K A YEAR
Funny they think the same of some of us......
In the coming days look for a big expose in the Tribune about the whitewash process that is done in the review of police shootings. The roundtables are a joke. The top brass act like a bunch of clowns who show up just for the free pizza. The Tribune series will be highly critical of the dept.
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first of all when i was in a shooting they were all pretty critical and at a couple of points i felt as if they wanted me to be in the wrong, but of course one way or another its always our fault...they will be starting a class where we will be taught jackie chan moves to avoid further shootings, and no i won't look at the tribunes article.
Anonymous said...
WHAT HAS R UNION DONE FOR US. THEY SUCK AND THATS BEING NICE. WHAT HAS FRANKIE d DONE FOR US? LETS GET HARV INTO OFFICE. VOTE FOR HARV.
11/03/2007 06:42:00 PM
STOP CALLING IT A "UNOIN" THEY ARE A FRATERNAL ORGANIZTION LIKE THE BOY SCOUTS,EXCEPT THE SCOUTS HAVE REAL LEADERS!
I have always been the copper who would listen to nonsense and smile. "Lay down, Do Nothing, Collect Your Paycheck." I have loved the many years I have spent on tact. Recently a piece of shit, a real piece of shit, is about to start making accusations that are farther from the truth. When he told us about his plan after being locked up for his 79th time it was pretty simple. he has taken over the corner where we work and he told us that he can make anyone say anything he wants them to. It took a couple of hours to realize this pice of human waste was going to try and destroy the lives of the people on my team (Me included). We have never taken a dime, never did an HI, ETC., ETC.,. but this guy is preparing to start his own little war and see where it goes. After this revelation I decided and agreed with all of you who have said FUCK this JOB. I will never turn an eye to someone in need and I will always do my job, but if you think I will ever try to go above and beyond again you are crazy. My Wife, and family. That is what my world is about. It has taken 10 years but I finally figured this game out. I hope all of you and your families nothing but the best and always remember they are first............
well, im not done doing police work. this is what i signed up for and ive got nothing to worry about if I do as im supposed to and dont break the law. sounds like alot of people are afraid...why, cause you have to creative write. just do your job as legally and as your supposed to and everything will be fine.
The infection from the suburbs has hit the big city.I have seen this coming for a long time now.CPD is just like the traffic pimp burbs.
Be PROUD! Be a DOGASS and retire!!!!
Hey, Sick of crimimals.
Are you living in a box? Devine is no longer the Cook Co. State's Attny.
GOOF. MADIGAN IS THE STATES ATTORNEY FOR THE ENTIRE STATE
DEVINE IS STILL THE COOK CO. STATES ATTORNEY
http://www.statesattorney.org/
ARROGANT AND IGNORANT IS A TERRIBLE COMBINATION
Greetings to all complainers and malcontents and the other 2% of you that post here. A quiz: Please name the last three Chicago Police Officers fired as a result of a "bad shooting" that occurred on duty? None of you can do it.
The real problem is that Devine is apparently set to indict some TRU officers. Also, we have a new chief at OPS. Shootings are going to get a lot more scrutiny from here on in. Be careful, everyone.
Ald. Willie Cochran (20th) useless when he was CPD 3rd watch in 003. What a rat. Wish someone had turned him in while he was taking care of his laundromat on 63rd St. while on duty. POS.
Fire the entire Command Staff on the department...There has been more "fixing" of issues, complaints that "disappear" and all sorts of fun stuff like that...oh, by the way there is EVIDENCE..you just have to ask.....
The next guy that gets jammed up due to what the political crap in this city has forced this departmetn to become. Pity shame on them for continuing to try to do police work. Protect each other your family and F#$$ everyone else. They made the bed they can sleep in the slop.
This blog is so depressing.
Anonymous said...
This is bad.
All this does is tells all the PO's, you had better stop and think long and hard before you pull that trigger.
And when you stop and think at the moment of truth, you very well might get your head blown off.
I am two seconds away from just becoming a dogass, it seems the safest bet.
11/03/2007 10:34:00 AM
you are going to be two seconds to late.
I have been on this job for thirty years. You people make me ashamed to be a police officer. You whine, complain, cry, and rat each other out.
Proof:
Do not do anything.
Ratting people out who go home early.
Just do the minimum.
Just show up.
No more Proactive police work.
Complain about the bosses.
Complain that you are not a boss.
Complain about meritorious promotions.
Complain you were not one of the chosen.
You people are an embarrassment to the concept of public service. I have finally come to the realization that the only reason most of you babies are on the Police Department is that you could not hold a job in private industry- not even a menial job. You people have no shame, no morals, no ethics, no decency, and are nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites.
You are public servants. You serve. You are supposed to go where you are told and do what you are told to do. Oh, and you are supposed to mind your own damn business. Now I really know why the public, not just the dogs, hate us. Because of scumbags like you.
I never, ever, would rat anyone, boss or no boss out. I do not care. I never cared who went home early, who stole money, who was screwing who, or anything else for that matter. I only cared that I went home everyday with the knowledge that I did the best job I could.
Hey, if this job is sooooooooooooo bad- fuck you. Quit. Go flip hamburgers or clean toilets. The only jobs you hair gel police are good for anyway.
DITTO..DITTO..DITTO...well said!
HA! Just keep on voting for Democrats, because this is what you get!!!
Especially you dumbasses in Mt Greenwood. You blindly vote for any idiot that has an Irish name. When will you people wake up???
Try voting Republican for a change. Pubbies won't throw the police under the bus the way these self-righteous Dumbocrats always do.
WAKE UP!!!!!!
1st:
Devine is still the State's Attorney idoit. You would know that if you had ever made an arrest.
2nd:
I know the State being at the roundtable is useless, that is why I am so upset. Devine, Milan, and O'Brien all know that too. Then why the, "because the process is not on the up and up" speech? Just to drag our department through the mud. Fuck them.
Well, here is my two cents....I was glad I had a round table...it was nice for my family to watch the news the next day and hear the dept spokesman tell everyone watching that the round table ruled that I followed dept procedure. Without the table, there would likely have been no public comment backing me- the whole story would have been from the 'local eyewitness' perspective.... At my round table, it really didn't matter what outside people were there...I was lucky enough to have excellent bosses and superb senior detectives handle my case.
The following are the alderman who filed petition in Federal Court to have
> the list of the names of police officers with 10 or more CR numbers in a 5year
> period is released to them for their review before the appeal process has
> been utilized:
> Alderman Manuel Flores 1st Ward
> Alderman Robert Fioretti 2nd Ward
> Alderman Pat Dowell 3rd Ward
> Alderman Toni Preckwinkle 4th Ward
> Alderman Leslie Hairston 5th Ward
> Alderman Fredrenna Lyle 6th Ward
> Alderman Sandi Jackson 7th Ward
> Alderman Michelle Harris 8th Ward
> Alderman Anthony Beale 9th Ward
> Alderman Toni Foulkes 15th Ward
> Alderman Joann Thompson 16th Ward
> Alderman Latasha Thomas 17th Ward
> Alderman Lona Lane 18th Ward
> Alderman Willie Cochran 20th Ward
> Alderman Howard Brookins Jr 21st Ward
> Alderman Ricardo Munoz 22nd Ward
> Alderman Sharon Denise Dixon 24th Ward
> Alderman Billy Ocasio 26th Ward
> Alderman Walter Burnett Jr 27th Ward
> Alderman Ed Smith 28th Ward
> Alderman Scott Waguespack 32nd Ward
> Alderman Carrie Austin 34th Ward
> Alderman Rey Colon 35th Ward
> Alderman Emma Mitts 37th Ward
> Alderman Bendan Reilly 42nd Ward
> Alderman Thomas M Tunney 44th Ward
Alderman Helen Schiller 46th Ward
> Alderman Joseph A Moore 49th Ward
felony review is full of dippy dummy do nothing idiot pussy states attorneys. could you imagine if we had to call in felony drugs for approval like the suburbs. ahhh. the state that answers the phone are strokes and have no clue. cook county system is broken. over ride every night boys and girls. don't be afraid. be smart.
Howard Brookins will become the next nominee of the Democratic Party for the Office of State's Attorney.
Tony Periaca will the Republican nominee.
The Democratic Party deserve what they receive as Periaca will win the general election.
The one round table I was involved in had a little cutie of an ASA show up. She didn't say much of anything, but she sure looked (and smelled) a lot better than Molloy.
Everyone who keeps asking about what really happened, forget it. The truth is that SCC isn't about to admit that this Capt. was not the one responsible for any of this mess. Maybe if the truth had been told from the start, none of this would be an issue. But as usual, it wasn't.
Guess it would just be better to have had her blow it off too, and wait for the headlines next week about the "cover up". You guys better pull your heads out of your asses. It's no wonder at all why the media has a field day with this completely fucked up "profession"!
11/03/2007 07:15:00 PM
CHILD PHYSIOLOGY AIN'T GOING TO WORK. MOVE ON
I have 10 years on with CPD and I am leaving to take a job with a north suburban PD next month. I know personally of seven or eight more top notch PO's that are leaving as well.
I cannot work in this ceasepool city anymore. I am off to a new city where Officers are appreciated and not lambasted every day by politicians, the citizens and the media.
Way to go Chicago, keep driving the working police out of this city or just to plain stop working.
You'll regret it.
Wow i hope you didn't throw your shoulder out patting yourself on the back. "top notch" slow down super cop
I say bring back the CCSPD SAO detail. At least when we were there, we had your back. The crew that they have at 26th Street is a pathetic bunch of retired on duty nitwits.
I personally handled 5 police shootings and every time I helped make you right. One of my cases is now a Commander, One a Sergeant, the other three retired WITH THEIR PENSIONS INTACT!
Do you really want Shanequa with her John Marshall law degree weighing in on your future fate at the IDOC or a County Policeman?
Thought so.
You'll regret it.
11/03/2007 07:42:00 PM
Ah, leaving this department to do what you are really good at. Movers, parkers, and shoplifers at malls. Can't handle being the real police and dealing wiht real criminals can you.
If you think the burbs are better, you are more foolish than hibbity gibbity who thinks he will be the next superintendent.
Good bye and good riddens.
Anonymous said...
Howard Brookins will become the next nominee of the Democratic Party for the Office of State's Attorney.
Tony Periaca will the Republican nominee.
The Democratic Party deserve what they receive as Periaca will win the general election.
11/04/2007 04:31:00 AM
In this situation Perica gets in brookins is a scum bag of the lowest order a real POS!
Anonymous said...
The following are the alderman who filed petition in Federal Court to have
> the list of the names of police officers with 10 or more CR numbers in a 5year
> period is released to them for their review before the appeal process has
> been utilized:
> Alderman Manuel Flores 1st Ward
> Alderman Robert Fioretti 2nd Ward
> Alderman Pat Dowell 3rd Ward
> Alderman Toni Preckwinkle 4th Ward
> Alderman Leslie Hairston 5th Ward
> Alderman Fredrenna Lyle 6th Ward
> Alderman Sandi Jackson 7th Ward
> Alderman Michelle Harris 8th Ward
> Alderman Anthony Beale 9th Ward
> Alderman Toni Foulkes 15th Ward
> Alderman Joann Thompson 16th Ward
> Alderman Latasha Thomas 17th Ward
> Alderman Lona Lane 18th Ward
> Alderman Willie Cochran 20th Ward
> Alderman Howard Brookins Jr 21st Ward
> Alderman Ricardo Munoz 22nd Ward
> Alderman Sharon Denise Dixon 24th Ward
> Alderman Billy Ocasio 26th Ward
> Alderman Walter Burnett Jr 27th Ward
> Alderman Ed Smith 28th Ward
> Alderman Scott Waguespack 32nd Ward
> Alderman Carrie Austin 34th Ward
> Alderman Rey Colon 35th Ward
> Alderman Emma Mitts 37th Ward
> Alderman Bendan Reilly 42nd Ward
> Alderman Thomas M Tunney 44th Ward
Alderman Helen Schiller 46th Ward
> Alderman Joseph A Moore 49th Ward
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11/03/2007 12:48:00 AM
TIME TO GET CAMERAS READY AND ANYTHING I HEAR ABOUT THEM OR ANY EVIDENCE I GET GOES DIRECTLY TO THE MEDIA,THEY WILL SEE THEIR NAMES IN "LIGHTS"! WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS,UNEDUCATED GHETTO TRASH! WHO PAID THE ATTORNIES FEES WHEN THEY SUED THE CITY? US! THEY EVEN USED THAT COP HATING JON LOVEY CLOWN,WHAT A ROYAL SLAP IN THE FACE TO EVERY COPPER AND CITIZEN WHO PAYS ALL THE TAXES ALIKE! THESE CLOWNS NEED TO BE EXPOSED FOR THE POS THAT THEY ARE AND NOW!
Anonymous said...
WHAT HAS R UNION DONE FOR US. THEY SUCK
The retards say:
AND THATS BEING NICE. WHAT HAS FRANKIE d DONE FOR US? LETS GET HARV INTO OFFICE. VOTE FOR HARV.
11/03/2007 06:42:00 PM
STOP CALLING IT A "UNOIN" THEY ARE A FRATERNAL ORGANIZTION LIKE THE BOY SCOUTS,EXCEPT THE SCOUTS HAVE REAL LEADERS!
11/03/2007 09:52:00 PM
The response:
I notice you two retards aren't bitching about the fat paychecks and all the other perks of your employment obtained via collective bargaining. I defy either of you two assholes to make more money, get more vacation time, better benefits and pension at a different job. It is not possible because a private employer would never hire sniping, whining little bitches like you and pay them a good salary (not to mention the excellent pension). Go to hell, please.
Anonymous said...
well, im not done doing police work. this is what i signed up for and ive got nothing to worry about if I do as im supposed to and dont break the law. sounds like alot of people are afraid...why, cause you have to creative write. just do your job as legally and as your supposed to and everything will be fine.
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Sounds GREAT!!!!! This is not a slam against you. But eventually you will realize that wether you do everything correctly or by the book you will still eventualy get into some crazy bullshit. All it takes is someone to LIE and your fucked no matter how "perfect" you are. That someone isn't always just the typical criminal on the street. Sometimes they are supervisors, IAD, Feds, etc. but don't think for a second that just because you think you do everything perfect that you are imune to the city bullshit.
signed,
lived it learned it!!!
Hey, if this job is sooooooooooooo bad- fuck you. Quit. Go flip hamburgers or clean toilets. The only jobs you hair gel police are good for anyway.
11/04/2007 12:24:00 AM
Thank you for saving me the effort, you said it all !!
ya know i'm tired of hearing a bunch of morons get on here and bash all the asa's! like ours they have a job that is disturbed by political agendas. its not their fault and just like i may have to lock you up or you may have to lock me up, personally i don't want to and I'm sure some how it will be my fault, they have a job to do and families to support also, i think its time that some of you people get a grip and as far as felony review...unless the charges are for you getting hurt WHO FUCKING CARES! we aren't gonna go out of business if we don't get felony charges.GET A LIFE, and stop spewing your stupidity on this blog!
At a police-related shooting, a few weeks back, one of the first questions asked by the ASA (not at the roundtable but prior) was the number of CR #'s the involved officer had.
Get ready, soon it will be the first question asked of you at any pre trial conference and at trial too...
I say bring back the CCSPD SAO detail. At least when we were there, we had your back. The crew that they have at 26th Street is a pathetic bunch of retired on duty nitwits.
Hey baliffs. remember fahey and O'brien. May be if you useless patronage hacks in the states attorney office had been serving your warrants these two fine men would not have died. U people are and were useless, you didnt do shit, you were afraid to go up in the jets let alone do any follow up. How come the chicago dicks always had and still do locate witness'es Einstein. Go back to Palatine or Burbank. O i forgot they hired real police departments. Thank God for Jack O'Malley launching you ignorant do nothing patronage hacks. You saved our guys your full of it. The area dicks and the cpd do the work that needs to be done. Hey Dart needs his kids picked up, toddler stroger needs his ass wiped baliff, go get your own blog.
Sheriff Elrod was no better than george ryan
Go poach on the forest preserve police or the state police
THE BEST PART IS THAT IF YOU GET IN A POLICE SHOOTING DO NOT WORRY BECAUSE YOU FOR DIRECTOR OF NEWS AFFAIR, MONIQUE ( I HATE THE POLICE, ANTI MILITARY AND VERY ANTI AMERICAN (BOND). SHE IS THE LAUGHING STOCK OF POLICE MEDIA RELATIONS , PROOF THAT ONLY IN THE CPD CAN YOU CONTINUALLY BE PROMOTED TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF INCOMPETENCY. IF I WERE MAYOR I WOULD HIRE A RETIRED MILITARY VETERAN TO THE POSITION. SOMEONE WHO NOT ONLY LOVES AMERICA, BUT WOULD LOVE AND RESPECT THE MILTARY AND THE POLICE. MONIQUE ITS APPEARS THAT NOT ONLY THAT YOU HATE THE POLICE BUT THAT YOU HATE AMERICA. AS AN IRAQ WAR VETERAN AND A P.O. IT SICKENS ME EVERYTIME I SEE YOUR FACE AND THINK OF THE MILITARY , POLICE, AND FIRE PERSONNEL THAT DIED FOR YOUR F-CKIN FREEDOM. GOD BLESS AMERICA.
Well, after 10 years at CPD, and five with another department, i always tried to do the right thing and be a working copper. i can't say i was the best p.o but i brought in numbers and never really got too many cr numbers. my first slap in the face telling me to wake up and see what a farce this department is after putting up good numbers on a tact team , the sgt and i hated each other and i was dumped after a year. No big deal , right??? it happens not everyone can get along together.
well i went to SOS i tried to do the right thing and do my job, i was asked by a sgt i respected to work on the Animal Crimes Unit, well i worked with a good partner, he and i personally set up good working realtionships , with animal care and control, the cook county sherrifs police, the department of agriculture, and many public advocates and agencies. the two of us worked very hard , plenty of overtime , and plenty of own time
answering calls from district supervisors and po's asking questions on how to criminally charge dog fighters . many people calling on our days off to ask these questions. i never once ever not call back a po because i was off duty , the unit had me do many things that a supevisor should have done , but we didn't have one for a few months. i did media requests, interviews, went to many meetings, and gave the other po's jobs to do. well sos dumped many people a couple of weeks ago. my partner was one of them, this was two days before he and i were to recieve a national award recognizing the efforts and work we did in the animal crimes unit. the award was from the Humane society of the united states , which has over 10 million members.
needless to say i was upset , many of the things we had done and were going to do law enforcement wise was sent down the shitter. i made my displeasure known to a couple of supervisors there. it was wrong to dump the guy , after all the hard work and great results, and after several positive media stories i thought some reconsideration was in order. well because i respectfully stuck up for my partner i just got dumped
as well, but only two weeks later
so i can't take advantage of the superbid. so what is the moral of the story? i worked hard,no cr numbers, brought in numbers, was recognized by media , the public and national agencies , as doing a good job,
our reward is my partner is in the 002 nd district, and iam dumped to the 003rd district. these superviors keep rewarding my hard work by not even telling me i was dumped, not even giving me the satisfaction of even working with my partner. for what?
for working hard doing the right thing and then sticking up for my partner. well you wont have to keep slapping me around cpd i get the message.
dog guy
11/04/2007 10:14:00 PM
welcome to 003! if you find me, I will be on your side!
Keep your chin up dog guy..At least you still have some balls and your dignity!
Sounds like you'll do okay. But you still have my sympathy anyways.
Stay proud and be safe out there!
Dog guy you could do worse. The commander of 003 isn't to bad, but again I knew him as a Sgt., and this job has a way of changing people as they move up the food chain.But Franklin was okay, he liked the workers, and he himself used to keep busy!
Any Chicago Police Officer who votes for Bob Milan should have his head examined. I encourage each of you to start right now by spreading the word to your family, friends and any one else that will listen to you: Don't vote for this piece of shit, do-nothing, cop hating fuck up. I was at 26th the other day when an ASA I used to respect came up to me to sign a petition for fatass Milan. I politely said, "You've got to be fucking kidding?" and walked away. I have told every one I know not to vote for this asshole and every Chicago Cop should do the same.
Anonymous said...
Well, after 10 years at CPD, and five with another department, i always tried to do the right thing and be a working copper...
11/04/2007 10:14:00 PM
Like you, I've been messed with and it would seem that no one really cares. I do though. Like you, I'm not a super cop, still,I rarely get CR's and show up for work sober and on time. This departement truly rewards political hacks,do nothing cops, and the young blonds. It's all smoke and mirrors and until the citizens and media become aware of it, they'll keep on getting the lies and lies that are published daily.
I know it's hard now because like you I was disheartened and disgusted. If you're like me,all you're asking for is a fair shake.
Try..to focus on the good in your life right now. If you're close to retirement,and it sounds like you can at least see the end near,there will be another life waiting for you. Try and focus on the good in your life,your family,loved ones,and knowing deep down in your heart that you,you,have done some good things in your life and on this job. You have an inner pride that no one can take from you. You can sleep at night knowing you've done nothing wrong. In closing find comfort in the fact that even though you are surrounded by evil in the world, city and department,(and I believe there is truly an evil force in this world),you continue to do your job,honorably and with pride in spite of the fact that we have inept and unethical leaders among us. Take care
The response:
I notice you two retards aren't bitching about the fat paychecks and all the other perks of your employment obtained via collective bargaining. I defy either of you two assholes to make more money, get more vacation time, better benefits and pension at a different job. It is not possible because a private employer would never hire sniping, whining little bitches like you and pay them a good salary (not to mention the excellent pension). Go to hell, please.
11/04/2007 09:47:00 AM
ISP IS HIRING 25/80 PENSION,BETTER PAY,CAR AND BETTER BOSSES TRY THAT IDIOT! NOW GO HAVE ANOTHER DRINK BILLY!
Anonymous said...
I have been on this job for thirty years. You people make me ashamed to be a police officer. You whine, complain, cry, and rat each other out.
Proof:
Do not do anything.
Ratting people out who go home early.
Just do the minimum.
Just show up.
No more Proactive police work.
Complain about the bosses.
Complain that you are not a boss.
Complain about meritorious promotions.
Complain you were not one of the chosen.
You people are an embarrassment to the concept of public service. I have finally come to the realization that the only reason most of you babies are on the Police Department is that you could not hold a job in private industry- not even a menial job. You people have no shame, no morals, no ethics, no decency, and are nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites.
You are public servants. You serve. You are supposed to go where you are told and do what you are told to do. Oh, and you are supposed to mind your own damn business. Now I really know why the public, not just the dogs, hate us. Because of scumbags like you.
I never, ever, would rat anyone, boss or no boss out. I do not care. I never cared who went home early, who stole money, who was screwing who, or anything else for that matter. I only cared that I went home everyday with the knowledge that I did the best job I could.
Hey, if this job is sooooooooooooo bad- fuck you. Quit. Go flip hamburgers or clean toilets. The only jobs you hair gel police are good for anyway.
11/04/2007 12:24:00 AM
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Thank you - you said what I have been thinking for years. I have to take partial blame for the shape this department is in. This generation coming on now is the same generation of my children. We raised them to be entitled to everything. We raised them to spout their opinions without basing them on fact. None of these college educated punks on this job could hold a job in the private sector for more than a month. I have done both - succeeded in both - without crying UNFAIR to everything.
Like you, I worry ONLY about myself. I do what I have to do, take care of business at work and then take care of business at home. I refuse to get hung up on the "fairness" of this department. It isn't fair, never has been and never will be. If you can't accept this fact - leave and search for a place to work that will treat you fairly. Good luck. After all, this is Chicago - what do you expect - one of the most corrupt cities in the country. Either accept it or leave it. But PLEASE stop crying about it.
ISP IS HIRING 25/80 PENSION,BETTER PAY,CAR AND BETTER BOSSES TRY THAT IDIOT! NOW GO HAVE ANOTHER DRINK BILLY!
11/05/2007 07:11:00 AM
So stop your bitching and go apply for ISP!! You think the politics are going to be any better there? I don't think so! He DID say PRIVATE SECTOR!!! Any job with government in Illinois is going to be just like CPD. Maybe good benefits - but total political bullshit. You need to choose what your priorities are - good pay, good benefits (CPD) or no political bullshit (Private). Remember all offices have some sort of bullshit, so get used to it and make a decision.
thanks fot yhe kind comments out there.
dog guy
ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH "SICK OF CRIMINALS"
The best solution to the roundtable problem is to send Mike Cronin and John Schmidt out for pizzas as soon as the shooting is called in. That way everyone will be happy.
so i can't take advantage of the superbid. so what is the moral of the story? i worked hard,no cr numbers, brought in numbers, was recognized by media , the public and national agencies , as doing a good job,
our reward is my partner is in the 002 nd district, and iam dumped to the 003rd district. these superviors keep rewarding my hard work by not even telling me i was dumped, not even giving me the satisfaction of even working with my partner. for what?
for working hard doing the right thing and then sticking up for my partner. well you wont have to keep slapping me around cpd i get the message.
dog guy
11/04/2007 10:14:00 PM
Welcome to the CPD, if you think you are the only one this has happened to - think again. I am sure MOST of us have been unceremoniously dumped for no reason, and then watched as the work we did to improve the department goes right down the drain....
AND THATS BEING NICE. WHAT HAS FRANKIE d DONE FOR US? LETS GET HARV INTO OFFICE. VOTE FOR HARV.
11/03/2007 06:42:00 PM
STOP CALLING IT A "UNOIN" THEY ARE A FRATERNAL ORGANIZTION LIKE THE BOY SCOUTS,EXCEPT THE SCOUTS HAVE REAL LEADERS!
11/03/2007 09:52:00 PM
The response:
I notice you two retards aren't bitching about the fat paychecks and all the other perks of your employment obtained via collective bargaining. I defy either of you two assholes to make more money, get more vacation time, better benefits and pension at a different job. It is not possible because a private employer would never hire sniping, whining little bitches like you and pay them a good salary (not to mention the excellent pension). Go to hell, please.
11/04/2007 09:47:00 AM
SAY WHAT YOU WANT! BUT I WAS JAMMED UP AND STILL FACING AN UP HILL BATTLE TO CLEAR MY NAME, AND ALL I CAN SAY IS THE FOP HAS HAD MY BACK FROM WORD GO AND EVEN PICKED UP MY LEGAL FEE'S WHEN THE CITY REFUSED! I FEEL YOUR ANGER MAY RUN DEPPER AND MORE PERSONAL THAN FOP PERSONNEL.
KM
WHY did you goofs wait for the City to dump your asses? Couldn't you guys see the handwriting on the wall? I would have bailed on my own after the Finnigan tapes were revealed! If they could shut down the whole gang unit under Miedzianowski, WTF did you think was going to happen to SOS? I'm just surprised it took as long as it did!! Don't wait for a rising tide if you can't swim (or own a boat!).
FOP blows. Never see them in the districts or on TV for that fact. Quit sleeping with the politicians. We are losing the those same benefits slowly but surely, you can count on that.
I have been on this job for thirty years. You people make me ashamed to be a police officer. You whine, complain, cry, and rat each other out.
Proof:
Do not do anything.
Ratting people out who go home early.
Just do the minimum.
Just show up.
No more Proactive police work.
Complain about the bosses.
Complain that you are not a boss.
Complain about meritorious promotions.
Complain you were not one of the chosen.
You people are an embarrassment to the concept of public service. I have finally come to the realization that the only reason most of you babies are on the Police Department is that you could not hold a job in private industry- not even a menial job. You people have no shame, no morals, no ethics, no decency, and are nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites.
You are public servants. You serve. You are supposed to go where you are told and do what you are told to do. Oh, and you are supposed to mind your own damn business. Now I really know why the public, not just the dogs, hate us. Because of scumbags like you.
I never, ever, would rat anyone, boss or no boss out. I do not care. I never cared who went home early, who stole money, who was screwing who, or anything else for that matter. I only cared that I went home everyday with the knowledge that I did the best job I could.
Hey, if this job is sooooooooooooo bad- fuck you. Quit. Go flip hamburgers or clean toilets. The only
NOOOOOOOOOO, Fuck you. You see the light at the end of the tunnel, we don't. You never had to deal with themess that is brewing here and will be gone. Also, you probably haven't done shit for the past 15. Take your higher than thou attitude and shove it. Handle your jobs and no more. THE CITY DOES NOT WANT YOU TO DO ANYTHINg. The sooner you get it the better.
NOOOOOOOOOO, Fuck you. You see the light at the end of the tunnel, we don't. You never had to deal with themess that is brewing here and will be gone. Also, you probably haven't done shit for the past 15. Take your higher than thou attitude and shove it. Handle your jobs and no more. THE CITY DOES NOT WANT YOU TO DO ANYTHINg. The sooner you get it the better.
11/05/2007 11:07:00 PM
No, none of us with 20+ years have ever been through rough times on this job - it is you and only you. Take a little advice from the veterans on this job.....this job has never changed, never will change.....so accept it or shut up. I am so tired of hearing people with less than 10 years on this job crying like little bitches, "oh poor me, no one cares about me, no one appreciates the wonderful job I do." Those of us with time on the job have felt that way a long time before you did. You call us dogs, yet in the same breath you tell everyone, don't do anything. You can't have it both ways. Did it ever occur to you that we are dogs because of what we have seen on this job for the last 20 some years? We were NOT dogs with 10 years on the job because unlike those of you with college educations, we took this job because we wanted to be the police and have never felt that it was below us. Stop your bitching and make a decision, either do your job or leave. But then again you are probably waiting for mommy or daddy to make that decision for you. The majority of the problems this job is facing right now have been brought about by officers with less than 10 years. Don't defend them, don't change your policing because of them - just shut up and continue to do your job. We are all falling into exactly what the city and the media wants - a do nothing police department. I, for one, will not give into the likes of Finnegan, and the rest of the DOGS.
HA! Just keep on voting for Democrats, because this is what you get!!!
Especially you dumbasses in Mt Greenwood. You blindly vote for any idiot that has an Irish name. When will you people wake up???
Try voting Republican for a change. Pubbies won't throw the police under the bus the way these self-righteous Dumbocrats always do.
WAKE UP!!!!!!
Is that why the 100,000 police officers Pres. Clinton signed the omnibus crime bill have never put on a uniform,because of this Republican administration.
I say bring back the CCSPD SAO detail. At least when we were there, we had your back. The crew that they have at 26th Street is a pathetic bunch of retired on duty nitwits.
I personally handled 5 police shootings and every time I helped make you right. One of my cases is now a Commander, One a Sergeant, the other three retired WITH THEIR PENSIONS INTACT!
Do you really want Shanequa with her John Marshall law degree weighing in on your future fate at the IDOC or a County Policeman?
Stop hatin' on Shanequa. At least she got one.
Do you really want Shanequa with her John Marshall law degree weighing in on your future fate at the IDOC or a County Policeman?
Stop hatin' on Shanequa. At least she got one.
11/06/2007 05:03:00 PM
Why do you rag on people that went to John marshall, always a reputable school....
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