SWAT Undermanned?
- A few weeks ago, when the controversial Special Operations Section of the police department was disbanded because of officer misconduct, interim police superintendent Dana Starks promised that certain crucial units within SOS would remain intact.
- But the I-Team has learned that 24 hours after pledging to leave SWAT alone, Superintendent Starks ordered some major changes. SWAT has always been one of the city's most dangerous, demanding and desirable police units, intended to be 60 of the bested-trained, highest-skilled paramilitary cops to handle the diciest calls.
- The I-Team has learned that interim superintendent Dana Starks has transferred at least 16 officers and support personnel to other department jobs, including some officers with skills not easily replaceable, such as a person trained to operate this thermal imaging device used to track down hiding suspects.
Of the 16 dumped, at least 4 have been quietly reinstated, but that still leaves them a dozen officers short. And the allegation that training has is disturbing in that a regular schedule of drills is what keeps the unit operating at peak efficiency. We're heartened that the Department is finally going to offer citywide tryouts, but is it going to be a truly stringent test? Because applying 20 or 30% "merit" or clout spots is dangerous to the public that has every right to expect the best if the shit hits the fan. It's also very dangerous to the police going into situations where you better have the best officer available backing you up.
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Nice of channel 7 to do something responsible. I hope they run a story when unqualified persons are put in those spots by Starks, much like he did by forcing the mounted unit to accept one of his girlfriends who coudn't pass the test.
HEARD A RUMOR THAT 1 WEEK PRIOR TO THE SWAT OFFICER'S BEING DUMPED STARKS ORDERED THE SWAT LT TO GIVE HIM THE RACIAL MAKEUP OF THE SWAT TEAM. WHEN THE LT COMPLIED, 1 WEEK LATER STARKS DUMPED 16 SWAT OFFICERS (FOURTEEN ARE WHITE, ONE HISPANIC, ONE BLACK) NO REASON GIVEN TO THEM. IF TRUE...SOUNDS LIKE RACISM TO ME!!!!!! AND A GREAT CIVIL RIGHT'S/EEOC LAWSUIT!
Pleeeeeaase! don't ever think that anyone on this job has a position that is irreplaceable.
Although he is not even on the Police Dept. Mayor Daley's nephew has been transferred to SWAT as Sniper in Chief. Mayor Daley denies any knowledge as to how this may have happened.
Word I heard was that the IS(interim Sup) wanted the SWAT team to be more reflective of the community it serves. HUH ???? DBL HUH???
Simply translated: To many white officers and Spanish officers.
Did Starks girlfriend, Hopalong LaTasha, get to stay in the Mounted Unit?
hibbity jibbity--------hey chuck, why did yoy ask dana about all the sexual harrassment beefs that the new commander of sos has? where is wg now that sos is disbanded?
to 12:06 I have been in OCD, and the D Unit there are more incompetent, and underserving IRISH in spots that they are unqualified for than all minorities put together. Its just there are more whites so they are not as easily noticed. SO until u call out your own leave starks alone because he is doing what CLINE did ance again look at OCD all of baby CLINEs teammates are there, how did they get there. SO ONCE AGAIN LEAVE STARKS ALONE, he is one of the few that will stand behind you just ask any one who has worked for him. I've seen Officers White and Black that called him and he has helped so don't say he has only helped Blacks because thats a lie, but that doesn't matter because he is Black and likes Flashy suits.
Dana, welcome to Chicago. You or that wannabe preacher John Ball can't handle this shit. Lt. you had the best, and you lost the best. You brought in scrubs from 003rd district, and you have to deal with their lack of knowledge now. Kiss our asses, because you will be shortly. Just because you were a merit LT. doesn't mean shit, people who you didn't like, had more whack than you ever will. We all know that you are a "reverand", and you will pay the price eventually for stabbing us in the back. Don't forget who runs this city mother fucker, and it's not the sign-me-up preachers. Do you really think that the Dignataries from other countries want to see some "dude" with no knowledge escort them around. Good luck asshole, and the current people over there, get ready to become the dawg asses that you once were. -Former real 153
"You are only as strong as your weakest link"...No clout,no juice,no bullshit CPD politics.
Thank you Chuck Goudie, you really did your homework, and you are well backed and appreciated by us. Dana, Green, and Ball how does it feel to be the fall guys. You idiots actually thought that you were the shit. Ha, you and your loser crews (003rd district) thought that you were SOS, well guess again. The media didn't even want to interview you scrubs, but instead, interviewed the real police Supt. Phil Cline. Who cares if it was a previous interview, you couldn't make the news today. M.J enjoy being a rat, G.W, why do you think nobody trusted or like you over there, a shot to the leg means shit. D.O, nice jean shorts, and guess what you are still a do nothing copper. Sgt S Freeman, take some of you pins off because you didn't earn all of them. Sgt Green, "you all got to pick somewhere to go because I'm bringing my own peeps in this bitch", I feel sorry for you because you didn't know what you were up against. Guess what bitch, you forgot to realize that some people on your team have more whack than you noble ass ever will.
WHY IS IT THAT THEY CAN WRITE A STORY ABOUT THAT WITHIN WEEKS AND NEVER / IGNORE REAL NEWS REGARDING THE FLIM FLAM DALEY DOES WITH MANPOWER / ON PAPER 50 NEW POLICE OFFICERS HIRED WHEN AT LEAST 50 REIRE EVERY MONTH ARE NEVER REPLACED AND THOSE MONIES NEVER GET PAID
I am not saying that they are making it easy to get on SWAT but I heard that Retired County Board President John Stroger, passed the physical test to get on CPD SWAT yesterday.
Undermanned?
EVERY UNIT/DISTRICT/SECTION of this department is undermanned.
They need to supplement the whole department and not with college educated unstreet-wised hair gel nick-in-poops.
For years we operated without a SWAT unit. If fact with some 25 yrs. on the job and 15 as a supervisor, I don't recall ever having SWAT respond to or be needed on a job. The old HBT unit was sufficient. SWAT is a waste of time and money.
From what I heard, training was spotty long before Starks did his thing with SOS. Some of the SWAT people don't answer pages or calls when they are summoned, as they are supposed to do. Doubtful if the team could be fully dressed for war from the point of notification within 2 hrs.
Things had been slacking off with the "stringent" guidelines long before this story aired. There will always be clout people within that unit, as they exist everywhere in this Dept.
SWAT has always been one of the city's most dangerous, demanding and desirable police units, intended to be 60 of the bested-trained, highest-skilled paramilitary cops to handle the diciest calls.
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What Chuck should have said and is true....
"SWAT has always been one of the city's most dangerous, demanding and desirable police units, intended to be 60 of the best-clouted, highest-phone call cops to handle the diciest calls."
What a joke. Wasn't Suchoki on SWAT?
SAWT is now what the entire Chicago Police Department is: totally full of shit
just when you thought SWAT was going to be a legit SWAT team, Starks goes and fu@ks everything up. rumor is that all 16 offcs were m/2 except for 1. I wonder what the department of homeland security thinks about waisting weeks and money on training these officers to only have their knowledge waisted in a beat car, maybe the Dept. of homeland security should pull the cities funding for waisting their time and money. I heard that they sent these guys all over the U.S. for training for weeks at a time, so much for dedication guys. no extra pay, no take home car( for HBT jobs during off duty hours and training, yeah thats right you have to take your family car to the HBT job if you are off duty and out to training too) and by the way, you'll have to pay for all your own equipment which will cost a couple of thousand and there are no gurantees they won't dump you for no reason after the first day you waste all of your energy, money and time, where's the incentive? sign me up I always wanted to play GI Joe..... no but really I use to make fun of these guys when they were HBT but when they became a full time SWAT team, I can see they were trying hard to be the real deal but were being held back by the city it's a shame! Good job starks and daley are listening Feds.....
SWAT undermanned? Who cares, they show up late or not at all. They are nothing like the TV show racing around in a big black truck.
This is whats wrong with the dept. Bosses put theregirlfriends and buddies in spots that they have no buisness being in then no one wants to explain how this unqualified schmuck got into a spot. Starks is the latest to do it but it has been going on forever and it hurts the dept having ofc with no idea what there doing in critical spots.
20-30% merit along with race/sex norming reduces the efficency of this entire police department.
but the important thing is that everyone feels good and the appearance of equality is not disturbed.
What Chuck should have said and is true....
"SWAT has always been one of the city's most dangerous, demanding and desirable police units, intended to be 60 of the best-clouted, highest-phone call cops to handle the diciest calls."
What a joke. Wasn't Suchoki on SWAT?
ding ding ding! correct in one guess. now, for a bonus point, who else among the indicted 7 was on SWAT until pre-diabetes from too much drinking ruined his eyesight. i'll even give you a hint - his name rhymes with "berry skin-agin."
60 elite coppers my ass. SWAT is the same joke HBT used to be...clout heavy phone calls all the way.
Sorry boys and girls, SWAT is as useless as the white clout boys that got dumped. Years ago all sorts of incidents got handled without SWAT. Go to a district learn to be the police and handle your assigned jobs. Who ever bitched to the news is a RAT. Cry babies thats what this department has become.
The job should be based off performance. Obviously I'm not in the CPD but I have a special forces background and the job needs to be volunteer and performance based. There should be a selection process, not a political process. The reason you see mostly whites and hispanics in the special forces/operations world is because they volunteer for it more than blacks do. And that is nothing against blacks or anyone else just calling it the way it is. If you don't keep it volunteer and if you don't have a selection process for it then people will get killed when something bad happens.
"SWAT has always been one of the city's most dangerous, demanding and desirable police units, intended to be 60 of the bested-trained, highest-skilled paramilitary cops to handle the diciest calls."
You want action,come to 007.The best trained??BS!!!
Qualifications, what qualifications???This is Shitcago and Crook County. What qualifications did Ron Huberman have to run the second largest public transportation system in the U.S. or Monique Bond to be the spokeperson to the media on police matters? Yet the media never asked these questions when they were appointed by the mayor. How about when baby Stroger hired his family member to be lawyers and budget directors for the county, what media outlet asked for their qualifications. As long as the best qualified person or persons are not there because of clout being at city hall, county, fire , or police,they will neve have the trust and respect from their subordinates.
Come on Lt.Govenor Quinn, pass that amendment on term limits on elected officials in Illinois. That is a start to clean house on the most corrupt state in the union.
Start calling HBT incidents in left and right! Expose the buffonery of this Shity's leadership.
Well, if Chicago was never closer to a full-blown terrorist attack we are now! Thanks Chuck!!
Why does Chicago need cops with M16s, or Ar15s?
Guns have been banned in Chicago. They dont need those types, if citizens cannot own them in their homes.
Just sayin.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=investigative&id=5736783
This is one reason why Starks should not even be considered for Superintendent!
How can a guy be a sniper in Desert Storm and be in good shape, but not be good enough for our SWAT. It was a joke, and still is.
SWAT applications will be out within a week. Bet on it! Even if there is the 20 or 30 percent merit, you still have to meet the minimum quals to get the merit nod. You have to shoot the course, you have to pass the physical and you have to go through the interview. There is no way around it, once you see the department directive on this you will see that its headed in the right direction. It will take some time to get the kinks out, like anything else, but it will happen soon.
The test will be administered by the bureau and monitored by inspectors (as is the power test and the marine unit test for examples) to help legitimize the process.
Yes 16 SWAT officers were dumped and yes Dana did in fact ask for the racial makeup of the 60 man team. These factors will come to a head real soon. Watch and see.
Once the SWAT program is set up like the rest of the country as far as the necessary compliment of officers goes, it will be a great thing.
Some things you have to take in to account before you bad mouth the response time. There were 60 SWAT(now 48 I think)officers, 30 on days 30 on nights. Take into account up to as many as 5-6 guys on IOD/medical at any given time, and maybe 5-6 guys on furlo or time off at any given time, are you keeping up with me, so you might have up to 12 people off so now your compliment is down to 48 (24 and 24). Also, the team is split into half on fri/sat and half in sun/mon. So 4 days a week you only have half of the total compliment. Half of each would work the sort car so you have 10-12 (maybe 6 sort cars up, thats a big maybe) and the other 12 in training. So, with those numbers you have to ask yourself how the hell could we respond to a serious job in any respectable amount of time. Not to mention, SWAT can't respond unless they hear it on the radio (and we know how often the simulcast doesn't make it over to CW1 from one of the zones) so you might not even know something has transpired until its almost over or they are notified by the desk. And the district has to officaily call it, then it goes to operations command to make it official and the to the SWAT desk. If there were a protocol for dispatchers to automatially notify any 43XX, 44XX, and 46XX unit car logged on via a PDT message it might speed up the response time. But there isn't and we all know how non proactive dispatchers are (I'm not bad mouthing all of them, there are some great ones out there but the bad ones overshadow the good ones)
Keep in mind, the department doesn't issue SWAT officers blackberrys or text pagers for an instant notification of a HBT situation or need to respond. They have to call them one by one, and if it happens on off hours you have one person calling everyone, that takes almost an hour to a hour and a half to call the list.
With all these factors layed out for you, and the potential that exsists for this program, give it a chance to develop. I for one have been working out and practicing my shooting to give this thing a shot. Unless you try, you can't bad mouth the process. And like anything else, nothing is given to you on a platter (some it is but not most of us). You gotta go out and get it!
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This is whats wrong with the dept. Bosses put theregirlfriends and buddies in spots that they have no buisness being in then no one wants to explain how this unqualified schmuck got into a spot. Starks is the latest to do it but it has been going on forever and it hurts the dept having ofc with no idea what there doing in critical spots. You're right,those that blame Starks alone are wrong. This crap is embedded throughtout this dept., just recall the guy that had to sue to get into the marine unit even though he was scuba qualified,a marathon swimmer,swim coach for a competitive program, and qualified as a small craft captain by a renowned maritime academy.
Let's call merit what it actually is,clout.As long as there are merit promotions and phone calls there will always be clout on this job.It is a shame that truly qualified individuals are passed over for some commanders kid.It is also a mark of failure and downfall when these clout babies are in control of units or even a street sergeant.I don't care what color you happen to be or where you came from.What I do care about is who you are(by your own making) and what you know(by your own learning).What kind of men are proud to be where they are because they are someone's kid? All of the clout babies I have come across are nothing but empty uniforms who haven't paid there dues.Get rid of clout or make merit mean merit and you will have made a difference in this department for the better.Keep it as it is and you will have what you deserve, empty uniforms.
Clout is now, and will always be a determining factor in a portion of police and fire jobs. Sacrifices must be made in the name of politics. If public safety must be sacrificed so be it. remeber the Cook County building fire? A afirmitve action promoted officer was responsible for searching the stairwell where people died. They died because he did'nt do his job. Would those people be alive today if the white males passed over for promotion by this black men had been in that stairwell that day? We'll never know. But this is the price this cities politicians are willing to pay to keep the poverty pimps at bay.
at least the old hbt guys were still the police they wernt afraid to still do police work they worked the streets just like everyone else and they were all good coppers they volunteered because they liked all the guys they worked with not because they could get d2 pay or wear silly green uniforms and if you had a court date on a date you were supposed to b training e.fred made sure you went to court because you were the police 1st and hbt 2nd so all you old hbt guys from the start to the around the early 2000s ill meet you at boondocks or the black lion pub in seneca and well have a drink and good luck to all the hbt guys who are still on swat sounds like you are gonna need it stay safe
Daley said he's not hiring the 50 new officers next year after all.
Shortage of money! Ummm, Mr. Mayor, if you put your TWENTY TWO bodyguards into patrol it would help out a little. Not that any of them were ever in a beat car or would have any idea how to work one. Why not ask your nephew where to find the needed money? That kid has found millions lately. Usually in our pension fund or the taxpayer's pockets.
The GED is paying off! Not even man enough to face the news camera, but wants to release a press statement. Any word on why this idiot can't get FBI security clearance?
SWAT my ass. Abolish that do nothing scam unit.
CPD got along just fine for many years with Robbery handling those incidents.
One Sgt and two Dets with heavy weapons were all that was sent out.
Worked fine.
How bout the shooting of the pregnant woman in 009 yesterday. It's a perfect example of what's going to start happening all over the city b/c the public won't let the police be the police. Two male teenage offenders that almost surely would have been stopped a few years ago, just b/c they looked suspicious are now being let roam the streets freely b/c the public doesn't want us to violate these piece of shit gang members rights. All over the city police aren't stopping people they most definitely would have and the results are starting to become evident. It's a shame, but you can blame the media and the liberal idiots that would rather protect a gangbangers rights instead of the good of the people and thier neighborhoods.
Ironic, guys get dumped from SOS (SFG) “SWAT” and right away they cry like the little girls they are “we’re special, we have special training, we’re too good to work in a district, how can we be dumped?, ”. Simple, you were put in that unit on a phone call (clout) and now that you’re clout is gone so are you. It’s that simple! You didn’t get into that unit because you are the best of the best you got into that unit because of who you know. You didn’t have any problems playing the game when it was working in your favor, but now that it isn’t working in your favor you cry like little babies. Too bad, man up and accept it. You people aren’t anything special, never were and never will be! Just one question, which one of you dumped crybabies called Chuck Goulde?
I'm sure only the best qualified officers will be on the SWAT Team...
Transfer order out tomorrow 004, 005 and 006 have a total of 61 going to the TRU unit.
How about filling the Districts so they wont be short.
How about putting "elite" officers in Beat cars?
With all those specialized units(clout), whose left to answer the calls for service?
Most Districts are filled with useless, do-nothing PO'S.
I remember reading this artile a few years ago. What a joke! Comments welcome:
http://www.nbc5.com/news/3455282/detail.html
I love haering the jeolous coppers on here who bash units/p.o's that they know absolutely nothing about!
S.W.A.T was created just three years ago. In that time, the team has moved leaps and bounds ahead of the old HBT, not to mention the team is respected nationaly among the tactical officer community. S.W.A.T has become the most legit unit this department has. The officers of this department should feel proud to have a unit and officers that pride themselves on becoming the best!
S.W.A.T's success is soley due to the dedication, hard work and personal expense of each of the 60 operators, 9 sergeants and lieutenant.
All old HBT members along with all new candidates had to re-tryout and pass the new qualification standards. Each operator has to maintain his physical standards and shooting skills as they have to qualify 4 times a year with their pistol, rifle and physical fitness. Chicago's standards are on par or harder than most SWAT teams throughout the country and have been approved by the IL police training boards. The rules are strict, once on the team if any qualification is failed, there is a short remedial period given and a second opportunity to pass. If that qualification is failed a second time that operator is off the team and it doesnt matter who you know! This has happened more than once so far!
Operators train 2 weeks out of every month. Much of the training is at facilities 1-2 hours outside the city. Unlike the majority of SWAT teams across the country, Chicago does not have "take home cars", we do not get ANY extra pay, no extra stipend for uniforms and equipment, no pagers or blackberries, NO NOTHING!
Each operator has spent over $5,000 in uniforms and equipment. We pay for our own gas and suffer the wear and tear of our vehicles driving to training facilities and having to respond from anywhere to anywhere to a call out! Each operators trunk has 3 gear bags each the size of a small person that must be carried around at all times. How many of you would do all this, spend that money for a position that gives you nothing back and the city and department uses and abuses you every chance they get!
I will say it again, it is done because the officers on S.W.A.T are dedicated, proud and believe in what they do and let me let you in on the 2 main reasons why these officers put up with the dept. and cities crap.
1. God forbid any one of the men and women on this department find themselves in their "worst nightmare" S.W.A.T trains and is willing to sarcrifice themselves to fight that nightmare and bring you home.
2. To use it's expertise, training and specialized equipment to nuetralize an incident while reducing the risks of harm to the policeman who have responded and the citizens involved.
S.W.A.T is there for you, the working policeman. S.W.A.T is a tool to be used to make your day that much easier, safer and to ensure that you go home to your family.
You can cry all you want about "clout babies" and "S.W.A.T is useless and do not show up or late" But, all your doing is crying a lie!
S.W.A.T officers respond to every call out, at all hours of the day/night, off duty, days off, holidays, from anywhere to anywhere and without a complaint!
For all of you who want to keep bashing hard working and dedicated officers I can only hope that one day you remove that chip you have riding on your shoulder. But, have no fear cause if its you one day living out your worst nighmare on the job, the officers of S.W.A.T will be responding from anywhere to anywhere to pull you out and get you back to your family and we wont be expecting a "thank you".
A dedicated S.W.A.T cop!
For all those bashing Starks get a life. Dana has been one of the most stanfd up exempts on this job. You guys complain about himbeing RACIST. Give me F@#$% a break. Starks is doing what every supt. has done since this department has been around, follow the orders of City Hall. Who do think makes policy? Who do think makes executive decision concerning this department? It sure as hell isn't and interm supt. And contrary to popular belief I've seen more unqualified, uneducated,ignorant, shiftless, theiving ass M2 on this job than anything else. So please save the criticism and the bs reverse racism overtones for somebody who's naive and doesn't have a clue about Chicago political machine. Because it seems to me alot you of you all don't.
Be safe
swat used to be two wagon men who were sick of waiting and kicked the door in and shot or tackled the subject.
What a joke. Wasn't Suchoki on SWAT?
Suchoki was also huge steroids or not.
Big deal! Green already is training his own selected future SWAT inductees. Majority of the them black. One actually is a roided out gimp with a busted knee. How the fuck he past the run? Elite SWAT my ass!
-former SWAT
Swat filled with a bunch of great guys. Guys that are actually qualified for the job. Good shots with a steady hand, physically fit and a sharp mind and lots of street smarts and experience. But of course theirs those merit positions. Goofs that were never and will never "be the police". Some totally out of shape and wouldn't have a clue if a bad guy jumped on his sniper rifle. This dept is so fucked up. Who gives a shit if most of the teams are white. Who cares what the color makeup is. The best qualified and the job/position is yours. One of those merit spots is going to fuck up big time and then the city and the dept will be back peddling and pointing fingers as usual.
11/01/2007 02:56:00 AM
I can say as a 100% Irish-American Detective, that is somewhat friendly with Matt Cline, you are absolutely correct. No one was beefing when TRU was formed and loaded up with all white management. No one complained when Gang Intelligence was formed and was an all white organization (until it was vastly expanded). However, you may lose my support if you continue to stand up for Dana's suits.
I'm just a civilian, but I think we need more regular uniform wearing patrol officers and less combat-pajama wearing elite 'soldiers'.
How about providing patrol officers with enhanced weapons and training?
Just curious? Wonder how many ball-less SOS officers are going to bid out of the district they were dumped to? I'm hearing EVERY guy and gal dumped to the Southside are bidding out to places MUCH safer!!!
WE'LL ALL KNOW ON NOV 8TH!!!
-004 po
Didn't C.R. receive the Carter Harrison Award only to have Starks dump him from SWAT the next day?
SWAT is a Joke Always has been always will be Just like this dept
***OFF TOPIC***
What's going on with the 005 Dist. watch secretary who got pinched for trying to cash a bogus $1 MILLION check at the credit union?
2:56 AM
Wow man, what kind of shit were you drinking before you wrote that shit. You beefed (I think) about the IRISH. You then mentioned two people in your statement, one is black and the other is German. Tonight when you get home from the tavern I would suggest that you go directly to bed.
Nice of channel 7 to do something responsible. I hope they run a story when unqualified persons are put in those spots by Starks, much like he did by forcing the mounted unit to accept one of his girlfriends who coudn't pass the test.
She passed the test to get into the school, it's just that she was asked to leave because she could'nt ride, came back after two weeks and is still in training. The rest of her original class graduated at the end of September. Back in August "someone" wrote about "THE TRUTH" from the horses mouth.....well if you believed the whole fable that was told at that time, then thats great. I think the person that wrote that is a disgruntled person that thinks they are being denied something they can't have or think they deserve. It is too bad for that person to fabricate some of the bullshit and spread it to try to drive a bigger wedge between other officers and further their own agenda but so be it. The fact that it may hurt the unit as a whole doesnt matter one bit to that person. As long as I get mine. Nice job you are a real team player. I will say this though, clean up your own house and fly straight before you point the finger at others because you REALLY dont want the truth about you and your many indiscretions to be brought to light. Remember, the "TRUTH" will set you free, even if it takes a bite out of your backside first.
Off topic---- Read the Kass article in the trib lets keep posting and raising holy hell about the injustice done to the Mette family... Let them not be forgotten.
This is whats wrong with the dept. Bosses put theregirlfriends and buddies in spots that they have no buisness being in then no one wants to explain how this unqualified schmuck got into a
How about little tommy Byrnes daughter? the head of homeland security RIGHT can you say connected.
What cracks me up is this news story said the department will have SWAT tryouts soon. As if anyone qualified who passes everything and has SWAT/Military credentials, and NO CLOUT, will have any chance of making SWAT. Any media reading this (Please do a story on the SWAT tryouts and see who makes it). I can promise you the officers who shoot the best, are in the best shape, and have the best tactics will not make it unless they have clout. CPD is a f%$#&*g joke.
What is up with this piece of shit police sergeant in Bolingbrook? Lets' see, married four times, wife #3 dies and wife #4 is missing. Not to mention the 30 year age difference. Hey, chief you couldn't find some bullshit reason to fire this piece of shit? Who handled the 1st investigation? I'm guessing there was some sloppy police work. A healthy 40 year old female just doesn't drown, unless she was slipped a sedative or other chemical. I say guilty.
CPD 005
thank you chuck.. at least were not getting attacked again. but, maybe i spoke too soon. one day your doing a good story trying to help and defend the everyday P.O. out and tommorrow youll try to smear us and call us corrupt. but, for what its worth thanks for the positive story. Chuck, if you want to do something else good to win the hearts of the cpd officer, take a look at ONE! of Starks many "women" who failed the rigorous test for the cpd mounted unit. although she failed time and time again, starks made a call and pretty much made threats against the commanding officer of the mounted unit to accept her. if she or another officer gets hurt because of her actions hopefully starks will stand up and take full responsibility...right?
CMON...
WHEN HAS THE SWAT TEAM HANDLED ANYTHING.
LETS SEE AND WAIT FOR THE OFFENDER TO GIVE UP.
ALL THAT TRAINING HUH. WHATS THEIR KILL RATIO COMPARED TO THE KILL RATIO OF PEOPLE HELD HOSTAGE THE NUMBERS ARE NOT IMPRESSIVE.
MAY BE ONE OF THE DUMPED COULD SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE ISSUE.
It was nice to see the F-1 who washed out of the Mounted training come back to the Mounted unit after the class graduated (and all witnesses to her utter failure in training, physical riding ability, etc) --this way, even though she washed out, Dana could put her back in because the was 'deserving' with no one watching. What about a story on that?
Swat is the migration of HBT - all it is is a new NAME, the term means nothing.
Training, don't worry, the training isn't anything new, and new guys can pick up the trainig easily, it is CONSTANTLY ongoing. EVERY team member has to train in two separate areas every other month...
Crisis intervention training and some other training, what TARA was mentioned, these are week long courses, there isn't any big problem getting new guys trained.
I don't know why certain people were moved out of the unit, but it isn't a bid unit, so where is the grievance? I thought it was due to those CR#'s, although I don't agree with that tactic, I thought that was the reason that certain people got moved....
First of all support each other. I've had partners of all races and genders. we golf and fish together our families get together, they are my friends. we have come to realize that everyone is screwed up and we make fun of each other over it all the time, but mainly they are my friends. stop dogging each other this is getting moronic, and some of you sound idiotic.
a male white in a beat
car.
rosco said...
SWAT undermanned? Who cares, they show up late or not at all. They are nothing like the TV show racing around in a big black truck.
11/01/2007 07:24:00 AM
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Yeah, but do they say, "Hut! Hut! Hut!" like they do in "Blues Brothers?
It's going to take a 9/11 scale event to happen just to shock us all into reality again! We have to take this stuff seriously! You can say f--k the job, f--k the bosses, f--k the city all you want...the bottom line is when the doodoo hits the fan, first responders will be on the front lines. While everyone else is running away, we'll be running toward the danger. If you don't believe that you would do just that, if you're still on the job, I think it's time to call it quits. If you are one of the guys who brag that if a terrorist attack happens, you would just pack up the family and head for Wisconsin...I think it's time you called it quits. I really feel sorry for anyone who is that jaded, at any point in your career. The oath we take is just as serious as the oath our military service personnel take...why don't we take it as seriously as they do?
Granted, the city, the state's attorney, the feds, the public, they may all be against us...but if you would hear my four year old ask me, "Daddy did you get the bad guys last night?" you would still believe in this profession, like I do.
What we really need is something like a smaller NYPD Emergency Services Unit.
That and a real Air Support Unit and have them available to the districts when needed. But, Richie willl spend more money on flower pots and green roof and let the department keep going to hell and blame us for it.
Stay Safe, Be Your Own SWAT Unit.
NEWSFLASH...THE NOMINATIONS ARE IN!
LT RICHIE SCOTCHBREATH FOR SUPERINTENDENT, AND HIS SIDE KICK SGT TERRY MCSCAM 1ST DEPUTY.
THEN THEY COULD STOP WITH THEIR CHEESY IMPRESSIONS OF RICK FLAIR, AND COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW MUCH HE MAKES THEM DO FROM THEIR BAR STOOLS AT TR'S.
THE COULD DUMP SCHMIDT, AND HIRE THE REAL RICK WWF FLAIR AS COMMANDER OF 008.....WOAAAA...ITS THE NATURE BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fuck this, a fed oversight should be in charge of all movements in this dept, for everything. Tac, gang by arrests, sgt and rank by score, swat by physical/ shooting standards.
1. the qualifications, you must make on your own.
2. then a random number not known to anyone is assigned to your name. Out of a hat it comes. No one from the dept can put you anywhere.
not a big loss - toughest part of swat is being a sniper - that takes god given skill and talent and is way too hard to teach. all the other positions in swat can be taught - especially how to use a thermal imaging device - dvd players and recorders are harder to operate than a thermal imaging device. problem is , the department fails to realize they should cross train all these jobs. gotta have a plan b and a plan c , hell , even a plan d and e.
Anonymous said...
Although he is not even on the Police Dept. Mayor Daley's nephew has been transferred to SWAT as Sniper in Chief. Mayor Daley denies any knowledge as to how this may have happened.
11/01/2007 12:18:00 AM
This is hillarious...LOL!!!!
DO NOT WORRY, WHEN NAPERVILLE POLICE CHIEF (DAVE DIAL ) AND BERWYN POLICE CHIEF (WILLIAM KUSCHNER ) ARE MADE SUPT AND FIRST DEPUTY, WE WILL HAVE THE BEST SWAT TEAM IN THE WORLD. AS A MATTER OF FACT IT WILL BE JUST LIKE NYPD (ESU). DIAL IS A FORMER VIETNAM VET AND RECEIVED THREE BRONZE MEDALS, KUSCHNER IS AND WILL ALSO BE THE REAL POLICE POLICE. IN ADDITIONAL SWAT WILL BE PROBALLY BE A PART OF NORTHNERN ILL, POLICE EMERGENCY SWAT TEAM IN CASE THE SHIT ITS THE FAN, I FELL AS A WORKING NO CLOUT POLICE OFFICER THAT WITH MEN IN CHARGE WE WILL HAVE LEADERSHIP AGAIN. ALSO BRING BACK TOM WALTON AND THOMAS FOULIARD
Anonymous 11/01/2007 02:56:00 AM has a good point.
When Blacks do it, we call it affirmative action.
When Irish do it, we call it clout.
Who gets the better end of that one? Irish. Hands down. I may be Irish, but I aint blind.
I can see it now, SWAT reflecting the community it serves. So I guess we have to start shooting, stabbing, raping and robbing each other. That would be
appropiate under this administration.
God Bless Paul Tibbits, pilot of the Enola Gay which dropped the bomb to end WWII. The left-wing anti-Americans whores could never get him to say he was sorry cause he wasn't. A true American Hero along with his crew.
20-30% merit along with race/sex norming reduces the efficency ......It never ceases to amaze me how many people think "race/sex" norming actually exists. If it did why are minorities so poorly represented in supervisory spots. Its a shame so many brainless folks think the only way minorities get promoted is thru that crock of bs aka "race norming"
Amazing how when tables turn everyone wants to whine, when Cline did stuff it was ok, when a nonwhite does it, its a felony!
WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING EVERYBODY IN THAT SWAT UNIT WAS THERE BY MERIT. THIS WAS NEVER OPEN TO OFFICERS THAT I KNOW. I HAVE 26YRS ON THE JOB I HAVE NEVER SEEN AN OPENING FOR THIS JOB. MAYBE THEY WILL REALLY DO THIS LIKE THE MILITARY AND GET THE BEST PEOPLE AVAILABLE
I'm a female and wish to tryout for SWAT can I train somehow to maybe make the team?
Fuck the I team and that jerkoff of a reporter Chuck Gowdy.
HA! HA! HA! To talk about Starks, who should be selling fried chicken, or washing cars, putting unqualified people into any position is ludicrous!
S.W.A.T's success is soley due to the dedication, hard work and personal expense of each of the 60 operators, 9 sergeants and lieutenant.
60 OPERATORS!!!! GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!!!!
I KNOW WHO WAS THERE AND THEY COULD NOT LICK THE BALLS OF A REAL OPERATOR. GET OVER YOURSELF. GO BACK TO THE BEAT AND SPREAD YOUR VAST, AND HIGHLY SKILLED KNOWLEDGE AMOUNT THE TROOPS :0
There have been cases where people did not call or did not wait for the HBT folks and took decisive action. In taking immediate action they saved lives. Instead of an "atta boy" they were reprimanded for not calling the Swat/HBT and waiting.
TO: 11/01/2007 11:36:00 AM
A dedicated S.W.A.T cop!
I've seen you guys respond. It was at 3AM , some guys were in pajamas, some in "out to diner" clothes. You guys busted your asses and brought out dude the hard way. You left covered in shit.
Thanks you for the Jobs you do ! We need you in this town of DOg Asses !
Just drove down 103rd St. Sure feel safe at home knowing half the third watch is camped out at the 7-11 at 103rd and Maplewood.
swat used to be two wagon men who were sick of waiting and kicked the door in and shot or tackled the subject.
11/01/2007 11:56:00 AM
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Old School. I love it!!!!
Even better: I love the old video of CPD coppers talking to a guy with a rifle/shotgun on the other side of a 4 foot high chain link fence.
Why does Chicago need cops with M16s, or Ar15s?
Guns have been banned in Chicago. They dont need those types, if citizens cannot own them in their homes.
Just sayin.
11/01/2007 08:38:00 AM
UP YOURS STUPID ASS
Only a liberal yuppie moron like you actually believes that just because these weapons are banned in Chicago, none exist in the city. You think the bad guys obtain their weapons legally? You are a FRICKIN' MORON. These weapons ARE OUT THERE and the police need to have superior firepower or else the bad guys have the upper hand.
WATTS said...
WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING EVERYBODY IN THAT SWAT UNIT WAS THERE BY MERIT. THIS WAS NEVER OPEN TO OFFICERS THAT I KNOW. I HAVE 26YRS ON THE JOB I HAVE NEVER SEEN AN OPENING FOR THIS JOB. MAYBE THEY WILL REALLY DO THIS LIKE THE MILITARY AND GET THE BEST PEOPLE AVAILABLE
11/01/2007 06:14:00 PM
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Where the hell have you been? Open your eyes, wake up smell the coffee. I hope you are kidding, if not-good god.
Anonymous said...
God Bless Paul Tibbits, pilot of the Enola Gay which dropped the bomb to end WWII. The left-wing anti-Americans whores could never get him to say he was sorry cause he wasn't. A true American Hero along with his crew.
11/01/2007 05:44:00 PM
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I raise a beer tonite for this man, a true american hero who really pissed people off like fat assed Rosie O'Donnell and all the other commie pinko bastards in Hollywood.
This is how we roll now.....
It still cracks me up.
Sgt Green, "you all got to pick somewhere to go because I'm bringing my own peeps in this bitch", I feel sorry for you because you didn't know what you were up against. Guess what bitch, you forgot to realize that some people on your team have more whack than you noble ass ever will.
11/01/2007 05:15:00 AM
Ummm, one question: If you have more whack than Sgt. Green, then why did you get dumped to a district without having a say and Sgt. Green is still in SFG?
Big deal! Green already is training his own selected future SWAT inductees. Majority of the them black. One actually is a roided out gimp with a busted knee. How the fuck he past the run? Elite SWAT my ass!
-former SWAT
1- its passed, not past.
2- off, this gimp isnt on any roids and will gladly take a piss test to prove the fact.
3- the reason i may look bigger is because after the first time I tried out for SWAT I hurt my busted knee again and failed the run. I went to Physical Therapy for 3 months got in the gym and busted my ass I work out 3 times a week for 2 hours hoping that whenever the next SWAT tryouts come around I can make it. If i do not, then so be it, at least I tried. I have not made the SWAT team yet so no I have not PASSED the run.
4- I shoot twice a week, the days im not in the gym, so I can score higher than the 96% I did on the last shoot test.
5- I did not ask to stay, I do not know why im still their. I packed my locker just like everyone else that day thinking I was going to be leaving and when I didnt I felt horrible because their were men and women that are a hell of a lot better at being the police than I am and may well ever be I can admit that and anyone that knows me knows that I am in no way shape or form ashamed to admit that.
Their are many other factors that go into your comment, and I would love to discuss them with you in person. As a SWAT operator I respect you for what you did and Im sorry if you got launched with those guys it was wrong and I hope it will be fixed. You should also know my partner who was on SWAT for only 3 weeks before he got dumped to the deuce is also a black guy.
So in closing, this roided up black gimp is working hard to make SWAT and by doing so he hopes that he can earn the privilege to work beside some of the hardest working hardest training officers in the city. Take care officer and stay safe.
p.s. Im Dominican (hispanic)
What is up with this piece of shit police sergeant in Bolingbrook? Lets' see, married four times, wife #3 dies and wife #4 is missing. Not to mention the 30 year age difference. Hey, chief you couldn't find some bullshit reason to fire this piece of shit? Who handled the 1st investigation? I'm guessing there was some sloppy police work. A healthy 40 year old female just doesn't drown, unless she was slipped a sedative or other chemical. I say guilty.
CPD 005
11/01/2007 02:24:00 PM
Heard on the 6 O'clock news that the sgt had a million dollar life insurance policy on wife #3. What a lucky guy. Like hitting the lotto and not having to pay taxes. I wonder how big of a policy he has on wife #4.
You want action,come to 007.The best trained??BS!!!
11/01/2007 08:20:00 AM
what and show them a bunch of vacant lots? should have read YOU WANT ACTION COME TO 011 THE WILD WILD WEST!
What the hell was goin on in 017 this morning??? Heard Captain chaos (Jan Rob-Dil) stuck her nose in an incident from the 1st watch and then a Sgt. from gang intel got stripped in the 017 station today. Any word or truth to this? Heard it was an off-duty incident that got him stripped! If it is who we heard it was, his wife is an ASA in Skokie and a damn good one at that too!
Clout is now, and will always be a determining factor in a portion of police and fire jobs. Sacrifices must be made in the name of politics. If public safety must be sacrificed so be it. remeber the Cook County building fire? A afirmitve action promoted officer was responsible for searching the stairwell where people died. They died because he did'nt do his job. Would those people be alive today if the white males passed over for promotion by this black men had been in that stairwell that day? We'll never know. But this is the price this cities politicians are willing to pay to keep the poverty pimps at bay.
I do believe that clout and AFFIRMATIVE ACTION (notice the correct spelling) are 2 different things. If things were fair in the beginning affirmative action wouldn't have been necessary. On another note, what type of grades did you receive in English and did anyone ever teach you how to use a dictionary? If people are going to complain at least use correct spelling, grammer, etc. Class dismissed!!
TO: 02:14:00 PM
As if anyone qualified who passes everything and has SWAT/Military credentials, and NO CLOUT, will have any chance of making SWAT.
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I don't have any Military Experience. I've been on the SWAT team and HBT. I have no clout. I have the ability and I do what I'm told to do.
What would a P.O. with military training have to offer?.....Could he call in an airstrike?.....Could he fire a Javelin Rocket down the hall of a school at a crazed gunman?....Better yet, maybe his skills at driving an Abrams tank would be on help........or maybe the military use of force (SPRAY and PRAY) would be use to us. I've been to advanced shooting schools with military guys. In short, they didn't impress me. Not a one was extraordinary. In fact we've got a former Marine that can't operate his M4 to save his ass; thank goodness his partner makes up for his ineptness.
Now in our current SWAT team , we've got plenty of guys that are just a step above useless. They know who they are; trembling in their boots during training exercises, finding excuses for their shooting and tactical deficiencies, smoking two packs a day and avoiding the physical, not joining their teammates in shoothouse push-ups, not wanting a paging devices because "that would mean I'd have to respond to the job" .
We should have 100 SWAT operators on CPD, we're down to 46, and 26 of those don't belong either.
The selection process will last far past this initial phase. You got CLOUT? Come try out, if You can't hack the quarterly qualifications, we'll take your C. and we'll take your L. and then you're simply O.U.T. ! That's just how we roll.
With all these factors layed out for you, and the potential that exsists for this program, give it a chance to develop. I for one have been working out and practicing my shooting to give this thing a shot. Unless you try, you can't bad mouth the process. And like anything else, nothing is given to you on a platter (some it is but not most of us). You gotta go out and get it!
11/01/2007 09:22:00 AM
You still in SWAT or did you get the boot??
If Dana baby taught me nothing else in my days in 011 he taught me these three things: (1) "C Y A ya Ass" (2) "Dont be goin out there and be leapin off tall buildings in a single bound" and (3) the true art of the sliding handshake. Hope you can all take these lessons to heart!
extra credit...Who referred to HG as "garcia" and asked to "see yo ink pen so I can sign dis cha-ching slip" after griping about being in court on his RDO? answer that and you get a kiss from tricky!
Anonymous said...
Amazing how when tables turn everyone wants to whine, when Cline did stuff it was ok, when a nonwhite does it, its a felony!
11/01/2007 06:11:00 PM
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Welcome to the blog "reverend" Sharpton. Please try and save the race card for your next protest.
Anonymous said...
How about filling the Districts so they wont be short.
How about putting "elite" officers in Beat cars?
With all those specialized units(clout), whose left to answer the calls for service?
Most Districts are filled with useless, do-nothing PO'S.
11/01/2007 11:21:00 AM
You my friend, that is who.
Now go handle the DD while we
i-leeet police go to dinner.
check out nypd's emergency services unit-esu. they have 10 trucks/stations throughout the 5 boroughs-manned 24/7. unlike here, hbt has to be paged out after hours or on the weekends.
Anonymous said...
Just curious? Wonder how many ball-less SOS officers are going to bid out of the district they were dumped to? I'm hearing EVERY guy and gal dumped to the Southside are bidding out to places MUCH safer!!!
WE'LL ALL KNOW ON NOV 8TH!!!
-004 po
11/01/2007 12:56:00 PM
Hey nit-wit where do you think these "guys and gals" worked while in SOS?
Try, 005, 007, 010, 011, 015,
all bigger shitholes than 004.
You sound like a guy with no time on the job.
To 2:24 CPD 005:
Will moprah do a two day spread in her column about this guy not being tried in the media too?? Fuck her.
To Moprah:
For someone who supposedly understands the "plight of the black male", you should try sticking up for the victim. Maybe we put the 2 Orders of Protection on him too. For you to just whisk away the danger posed by the fucking criminal she defended is asinine. What about the danger to the VICTIMS in those cases. Great, he let you interview him and you asked him "Did you kill so and so". Give me a break. I didn't eat, drink, or say fuck today. That's about as credible as your interview. Being part of the media, you, of all people, should understand that all you whores do is sell out someone to make a buck. If you really want to help somebody, pick someone more deserving. I'm not saying that his "rights" should be trampled, but, if it looks like shit and smells like shit, GUESS WHAT? Moprah: G.F.Y.
p.s. And, to use your quote, "like all black men, Potter"...(and the rest of the world) "know he could end up being charged...based on circumstantial evidence". DAMN RIGHT, he can. Lawyer up yourself and see if that is a plausible legal theory. It sure the fuck is. Looky here, an admitted violent offender in multiple cases who sure as shit appears guilty is drawing attention to himself. Maybe his jury will give him the black power fist after his acquittal like OJ's did.
Whats up with this bitch lieutenant in 017 on days. Is her son a MLD or something. Fuck these gang bangers.
I would like to respond to the oo4 district copper who thinks the sos crew is ball-less and only bidding out of shitty districts because were scared. Actually, dickhead, many of the recently dumped officers are tired of dealing with the west-south side shitheads. Not to mention the fact that you also have to deal with hard on coppers like your self. Dont be jealous guy cause your stuck in 004. Get some time on the job, and bid if you want. Beleive me,4 aint that scarry. The working coppers are just tired of working with jagoffs like you.
Hey 11/01/07 at 11:36
SWAT Cop, answer this question please.
You keep using the term "operator". Are the members of the SWAT team "Police Officers" or are they using the switchboard operators for the SWAT Team?
What happened in 017 was a travesty. Clouted Captain got a good sgt. stripped. The sgt. was defending his own home> clouted captain stuck her nose into something already handled. besides the sgt. , now the midnight cap./lt who handled is middled like a MF.
Way to go Clout.
S.W.A.T's success is soley due to the dedication, hard work and personal expense of each of the 60 operators, 9 sergeants and lieutenant.
I admire your dedication, but when was the last time you saw the Lt. or certain sergeants train with their team. There is more infighting and back stabbing going on becasue of poor leadership. I say thank you to the guys who really care and give it their all, the rest are a disgrace to the police department. One more thing, if you think all the people on SWAT passed the physical you are very gullible. There were some short cuts taken.
Anonymous said...
SWAT my ass. Abolish that do nothing scam unit.
CPD got along just fine for many years with Robbery handling those incidents.
One Sgt and two Dets with heavy weapons were all that was sent out.
Worked fine.
11/01/2007 10:40:00 AM
Then ...
For all of you who want to keep bashing hard working and dedicated officers I can only hope that one day you remove that chip you have riding on your shoulder. But, have no fear cause if its you one day living out your worst nighmare on the job, the officers of S.W.A.T will be responding from anywhere to anywhere to pull you out and get you back to your family and we wont be expecting a "thank you".
A dedicated S.W.A.T cop!
11/01/2007 11:36:00 AM
I wonder where the "dedicated S.W.A.T cop" finds a hat large enough to fit over that swollen head....
Sell your shit to the tourists, leave the bold statements for the bold players - the boys and girls riding in the marked cars to in-progress calls, without the heavy weapons and strong back-up you enjoy.
And next time you're working that bar girl on 111th street, telling her what a hero you are, just STFU and let us watch the TV in peace.
Here it goes for u ignorant bastards! More irish whites both (female and male) , have been promoted meritoriously than ANY other racial group. However it is interesting how on this blog, that a person who purports to have no clout can continue to espouse ideas that are fanatical at best, continue to think their ideas are any where close to right. How about rickey maher, the chief of detective’s husband being #32 on the
Fuck the merit; why not find out who was/is privy to the test?
dugan for sup. and bobby lopez for 1st deputy. two class acts
Hey swat guy, tell me when did they announce tryouts for swat formerly HBT? While you are at it tell me how people got on SOS, OCD, vice, detached services, mayors detail, mounted unit, marine unit, and my favorite one, how do you get a dog (k9 unit)? Shit I can sure tell you the tryouts-openings werent posted in the daily bulletin.
I will tell you how people got in all of those units, A PHONE CALL (CLOUT)!!! be it a boss, politician, or getting sponsored by a person already in that unit. The only unit they couldnt get officers to apply to was TRU and that was because there werent any perks to go to a revenue producing unit so they had to fill it with reverse senority. My old boss had to go there as a favor to another boss who he owed a favor to. So keep thinking your the man but your are nothing but a clout hack that probably doesnt even deserve to be in a squad car.
Transfer order out tomorrow 004, 005 and 006 have a total of 61 going to the TRU unit.
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yeah throw 003 into that too. who the fuck wants to be in those districts? Shit, a two year wonder already has 100 domestics under your belt. that shit fucking burns you out. on top of that you have shit supervisors to deal with? and dog ass police? tru is a savior for some people
HMMM ....The Haleas stuff is conspicuously absent here.
SCC, you are definitely from the "angry 025th."
We are about 2 decades behind NYPD.
Hey 11/01/07 at 11:36
SWAT Cop, answer this question please.
You keep using the term "operator". Are the members of the SWAT team "Police Officers" or are they using the switchboard operators for the SWAT Team?
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Marine unit officers = frogs
Investigators = Dicks
Bomb & Arson officers= Bomb Techs
K9 officers = Dog Handlers
Swat Officers = Operators
Range Officers = Firearms Instructors
Evidence Technicians = E.T.'s
Bomb & Arson D5 Technician = JagOff
TO: 11/01/2007 10:43:00 PM
Hey swat guy, tell me when did they announce tryouts for swat formerly HBT?
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This morning !
Get on the Dept computer and see for yourself.
in regards to the S.W.A.T. Cop 11:36am from 11/1/07, thank you, as i was reading this blog all i could think of was the no nothings and all they had to say about S.W.A.T. the are just plain stupid. have been there with u guys have even made entry to a building with you. i give you guys a lot of credit.
Why does Chicago need cops with M16s, or Ar15s?
Guns have been banned in Chicago. They dont need those types, if citizens cannot own them in their homes. Just sayin.
11/01/2007 08:38:00 AM
Being that SCC/we have had our little corner of the internet exposed. I of am the opinion that name calling is unwarranted sometimes. Even thought it may be appropriate in this instance. But here I am gonna give the benefit of a doubt since a disclaimer of being a civilian was prefaced. So I rewrote/edit'd your reply:
I can see how a civilian may actually believe that just because these weapons are banned in Chicago, that none exist in the city. Do you think the bad guys obtain their weapons legally? These weapons ARE OUT THERE and the police need to have superior firepower or else the bad guys have the upper hand. In order for the Police to restore peace and tranquility sometimes it requires the use of force which may seem overkill or down right ugly, but that is the reality of the society in which we live.
"yeah throw 003 into that too. who the fuck wants to be in those districts? Shit, a two year wonder already has 100 domestics under your belt. that shit fucking burns you out. on top of that you have shit supervisors to deal with? and dog ass police? tru is a savior for some people
11/01/2007 10:44:00 PM"
YEAH WE ALL STRIVE TO BE "ELITE" IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER,& SOME WILL SELL THEIR SOULS TO MAKE THAT DREAM A REALITY.
IF A 2 YEAR WONDER HAS A 1OO DOMESTICS UNDER HIS BELT, WHAT DOES A 20 YEAR VET HAVE? 1000,S TENS OF THOUSANDS?
YET THEY GO OUT &HANDLE THOSE JOBS W/O OUT THE NEED TO BE VALIDATED. THEY ARE TRULY THE ELITE NOT REQUIRING THE PREREQUSITE "PAT ON THE BACK"...
I WANT THE NEWS STATION TO DO A REPORT ON STARKS..
SHOULD READ
SEE WHAT A GED CAN GET YOU
I LIKE THE COMMENT ON PARA MILITARY SWAT TEAM.... YEAH OKAY MAYBE 20% THAT'S ALL.....
AND FOR THIS PARA MILITARY POLICE
SHOVE IT UP YO A&& THATS CRAZY
Will moprah do a two day spread in her column about this guy not being tried in the media too?? Fuck her.
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old irish saying:
What would you expect out of a pig,but a grunt.
Amazing how when tables turn everyone wants to whine, when Cline did stuff it was ok, when a nonwhite does it, its a felony!
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I DON'T THINK SO! CLINE GOT DOGGED ON CONSTANTLY!!! THIS SITE IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR BALL BUSTING. IF YOU GROW SOME CONFIDENCE NONE OF THIS SHIT WILL BOTHER YOU.
11/01/2007 11:03:00 PM
you forgot one:
Crime Lab= glorified ET superstar
Hey 11/01/07 at 11:36
SWAT Cop, answer this question please.
You keep using the term "operator". Are the members of the SWAT team "Police Officers" or are they using the switchboard operators for the SWAT Team?
11/01/2007 09:39:00 PM
We're called operators because when we were watching Black Hawk Down we really idolized the composite character named Hoot. He said some realy cool shit that made us feel that we were cool too. We typed it up and put it on our office door. We like to pretend we're Delta (like Hoot) and those guys call themselves operators. Don't hate, you wish you were like us.
Anonymous said...
TO: 11/01/2007 10:43:00 PM
Hey swat guy, tell me when did they announce tryouts for swat formerly HBT?
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This morning !
Get on the Dept computer and see for yourself.
11/01/2007 11:07:00 PM
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Good luck! SOS or whatever they call it now does not have the logistical capibilities to administer that many applications!
It will take A LONG TIME to get SWAT pack up.
Anonymous said...
NEWSFLASH...THE NOMINATIONS ARE IN!
LT RICHIE SCOTCHBREATH FOR SUPERINTENDENT, AND HIS SIDE KICK SGT TERRY MCSCAM 1ST DEPUTY.
THEN THEY COULD STOP WITH THEIR CHEESY IMPRESSIONS OF RICK FLAIR, AND COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW MUCH HE MAKES THEM DO FROM THEIR BAR STOOLS AT TR'S.
THE COULD DUMP SCHMIDT, AND HIRE THE REAL RICK WWF FLAIR AS COMMANDER OF 008.....WOAAAA...ITS THE NATURE BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11/01/2007 04:32:00 PM
Then amybe richie could promise the tact team more "ribbons" from leo as the reward for 2 anovs per day per man! WTF! Guess the drunks get all the spots! No wonder his wife left him with nothing! Is he still living in the basement?
11:03
Your explanation of the term "operator" still doesn't make any sense in the manner of comparision that you are making. For instance, I've never heard anybody use the term "frog" when referring to Marine Unit Officers, everybody I know calls them the marine unit, the term "dick" when referring to detectives is a term thats been around since the beginning of time, B&A Tech's are called that because they are technicians, K-9 Officers are called dog handlers because they obviously handle dogs,Range Officers are called Firearms instructors because that's what they are and either term would be appropriate BTW, and an Evidence Technician is referred to as an ET for short. All very understandable and logical. But you for some reason you refer to SWAT Officers as "operators". What are you operating? Why not simply Police Officer? Or Police Officer assigned to the SWAT Team? Or even SWAT Officer? This "operator" thing doesn't make any sense. Is there a secret payroll code in the City budget for " Police Operator" or is your payroll code still 9161?
No offense but I think you guys need to put down the Soldier of Fortune magazine and stop this imitation of the military. We are all POLICE OFFICERS. We are just assigned to different units, some better than others. There are no elite units here, no Navy SEALS, Delta Force, no Special Forces just POLICE OFFICERS! And there is nothing wrong with being a POLICE OFFICER. Some of the best men I know or knew were POLICE OFFICERS. They did more work in their careers than any "operator" will more than likely ever do in his lifetime and they all referred to themselves a POLICEMEN". So stop this self promotion and misrepresentation about who you are. You are Police Officers. Nothing less, nothing more.
Anonymous said...
11/01/2007 11:03:00 PM
you forgot one:
Crime Lab= glorified ET superstar
11/02/2007 04:02:00 AM
Plus d-3 to D-5 paycheck! On the subject why would anyone go to HBT? Nothing to gain at all, but maybe more cr numbers and more bullshit to do! You want to be swat ok you go through all the doors first I am proud of you young man, I will come in after and transport your prisoners! Your my hereos! Thanks for all your help! When a terrorist event happens here nice to know you will be first in,while i check on family and get the fuck out of daleys destroyed no equipment city asap!
I was in sos for many years and I have no clout. One may ask, well how did he get there? I got there when I applied to the distressed neighborhood program (DNP). If you don't know what that is then you don't have enough time on the job to respond to my comment. The dept had a hard time filling the govt funded program with cops because the working p.o. had to put up with alot of b.s. from the dept, bosses and other p.o.'s. the dnp was apart of unit 153 but was not considered SOS by the dept or the the clout baby SOS po's.which meant I was not able to try out for hbt or recieve other perks of sos. So i put up with alot for about 3 yrs of DNP before DNP ran out of govt funds and the dept officially merged the remaining officers with SOS.once this happened I tried out for HBT and made it and then tried out for the now full time swat team and made it. So there you have it, I have no clout and spent 9yrs of my life in unit 153, I have no prior military experience( sorry got a scholarship to play college football)Just because I played college football and not joined the military that should not disqualify my ability to be a swat operator--- I think Pat tillman proved himself capable in SF.In any case after 12 yrs on the job and 9 of those in unit 153 I got dumped from the swat team and don't know why--- no I don't have 10 cr#'s either. Maybe it's because the dept found out I was in sos/ swat and I have/had no clout or maybe it's because I have no former military training--sorry decided to get a education and play the sport I love instead.So as far as bidding out of a southside district, you better believe I did, the dept has left me angry, so the way I see it now is that I bidded to the district I live in and will protect the home front, protect the tax paying citizens for once! So if this labels me as a scared, then so be it! because I am done, zero amount of police service outside of my district I live in!!! so thats how I got to sos!!!!! believ it or not there are a couple of guys in swat that have a very similar story. Not all of us are clout baby's, some of us actually earned our way on!!!!
Anonymous said...
swat used to be two wagon men who were sick of waiting and kicked the door in and shot or tackled the subject.
11/01/2007 11:56:00 AM
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You, my friend, win the award for call of the show. You nailed that one!
"swat used to be two wagon men who were sick of waiting and kicked the door in and shot or tackled the subject."
This is the best....oh how I wish it was copland again..........
Transfer order out tomorrow 004, 005 and 006 have a total of 61 going to the TRU unit.
61 people will not be on the order going to TRU, there aren't 61 openings. Anyone that does go will be detailed in.... more insane rumors...
Anonymous said...
Did Starks girlfriend, Hopalong LaTasha, get to stay in the Mounted Unit?
11/01/2007 01:12:00 AM
Here she is also in swat now
Swat is not bid spot, not a spot to test for (physical/ mental/ etc) It is 100% who you know. So Swat guys quit your bitching you are out and the new guys are in. What did you expect when you got there on a phone call and your phone call retired. If it was legit the you have a beef. You can always sell your old equipment to the new guys.
Anonymous said...
HMMM ....The Haleas stuff is conspicuously absent here.
SCC, you are definitely from the "angry 025th."
11/01/2007 10:46:00 PM
was
"yeah throw 003 into that too. who the fuck wants to be in those districts? Shit, a two year wonder already has 100 domestics under your belt. that shit fucking burns you out. on top of that you have shit supervisors to deal with? and dog ass police? tru is a savior for some people
11/01/2007 10:44:00 PM"
YEAH WE ALL STRIVE TO BE "ELITE" IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER,& SOME WILL SELL THEIR SOULS TO MAKE THAT DREAM A REALITY.
IF A 2 YEAR WONDER HAS A 1OO DOMESTICS UNDER HIS BELT, WHAT DOES A 20 YEAR VET HAVE? 1000,S TENS OF THOUSANDS?
YET THEY GO OUT &HANDLE THOSE JOBS W/O OUT THE NEED TO BE VALIDATED. THEY ARE TRULY THE ELITE NOT REQUIRING THE PREREQUSITE "PAT ON THE BACK"...
11/02/2007 12:39:00 AM
don't put elite in my post with tru. no one is elite. i simply said that tru is a good way out of shit districts with bad bosses and horrible nonsense calls. those 2 year wonders see the bid openings for 020, 023, 018, but can't get in because they don't have the time. if you like working you can go to tru and forget about all those nonsense calls. tru is a simple way out with some. if you have 20 years on and still like working in the ghetto and handling domestics, well that is your call. no one is forcing you to stay here
Clout is now, and will always be a determining factor in a portion of police and fire jobs. Sacrifices must be made in the name of politics. If public safety must be sacrificed so be it. remeber the Cook County building fire? A afirmitve action promoted officer was responsible for searching the stairwell where people died. They died because he did'nt do his job. Would those people be alive today if the white males passed over for promotion by this black men had been in that stairwell that day? We'll never know. But this is the price this cities politicians are willing to pay to keep the poverty pimps at bay.
Are you friggin' insane?! If you can allegedly blame their deaths on so-called affirmative action hirings,then what is the reason for all of the deaths when "qualified" white firefighters were on the scene?
Good luck on your SWAT try-out Ray. Never give up. Never quit. Cowards will always find fault in others.
-former 4313 in 006
A dedicated S.W.A.T cop!
11/01/2007 11:36:00 AM
Protector of the lie!!
To 8:33
Edwards, you are a whining POS! YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK TO STAY. We ALL know you are related to some extremely high brass, so cut the "I didn't have to ask" bullshit already. You're right about your old partner in 002 as well. He should have stayed and you should have went bye bye! You need to cut the disgruntled ex-Marine shit. Quit trying to be what you ain't dude! USMC gave you walking papers. You are NAVY now. Enough is enough fucktard!!! Your partner has a reason to cry and he's moved on. You ARE in SFG and you won't stop bitching! Damn you need help. Your clout is the ONLY reason why he's gone and you are SFG!
Your busted knee has been your excuse since Day One of you arriving to SOS. I was present when you injured your knee during the physical agility test. I remember how you cried about not being able to make SWAT too. Hey, we all knew about the standards and how we had to pass every event. Why should YOU be any different? You thought shooting 96% was a reason to just waive you through? Not a chance! You gotta pass every event dude! Like I did.
The operators dumped from SWAT to include your partner make you look like a self-righteous chump! It's a damn shame to see yet another CLOUT BABY get all the benefits of others' hard work! You have the nerve to get on me about misspelling the word PASSED? I really need to cool down. Fuck!!! Damn dude, I need a fucking beer after reading your post. You really fucked my head up!!!
-former SWAT operator
Edwards, you are going to need a shovel for all that crap you're unloading on us.
I'm betting the farm that you just destroyed the opinions of all your SOS coworkers. Nobody in their right mind would believe that you didn't know why you were allowed to stay in SFG? We all knew. Nobody should be supportive of your lies either. Liar!
People with your clout always get pampered. Say hi to Dana for me.
-dumped in 023
9:39PM****** ALERT*******
Negative. It has nothing to do with some fictional character named Hoot. Negative. While we trained up at Blackwater North-something you know nothing about, we were called swat "operators" by the men instructing us. Affirmative. Now genius, they were former DF, Green Berets and Navy Seals. Are you going to tell me that we aren't operators, when they themselves called us that?
We are the most highly charged trained/highly motivated officers in CPD. No question. None better. We deserve the distinction of being called ELITE. SOS should never have been called that distinction. No one else in CPD can come close to our firearms training. Nobody else understands the complexities of conducting a breach to save people's lives. Maybe even a fellow cop. You wannabe's can now get a clue!
-swat operator
Quit bashing SWAT. You guys do good work, and most of the PO's on this job respect and appreciate your hard work. The haters are the jealous ones. Thanks.
012
"Blackwater?" The killers of innocent civilians? And you think being trained by them is something to brag about? I'm glad you clarified that these "Blackwater experts" you trained with are FORMER Seals, Rangers, etc. THe ones I've seen on a few video don't look like they could fit into their skydiver or wet suits too well nowadays.
Negative. It has nothing to do with some fictional character named Hoot. Negative. While we trained up at Blackwater North-something you know nothing about, we were called swat "operators" by the men instructing us. Affirmative. Now genius, they were former DF, Green Berets and Navy Seals. Are you going to tell me that we aren't operators, when they themselves called us that?
We are the most highly charged trained/highly motivated officers in CPD. No question. None better. We deserve the distinction of being called ELITE. SOS should never have been called that distinction. No one else in CPD can come close to our firearms training. Nobody else understands the complexities of conducting a breach to save people's lives. Maybe even a fellow cop. You wannabe's can now get a clue!
-swat operator
11/02/2007 03:51:00 PM
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I’m soo sorry our pea sized brains cannot comprehend the “complexities of conducting a breach.” Please go and tell your Rush and Division skanks your “operator” stories because no one cares here. It really shows what a tool you really are to go out of your way to tell everyone how “elite” you are and separate yourself from us lowly police officers. I remember a certain group of handj*bs that had the same “elite” attitude as yourself and guess what, they are in federal custody crying and turning on each other like little b*tches.
Regarding Blackwater North that I’m too stupid to even hear about, it’s in Mt. Carroll and I’ve been there too and paid with my own money.
Do me a favor and go to automated directives, it our policies of the department, and type SWAT OPERATOR in the search engine and I know for a fact that swat operator is not going to be found in any directive written by R & D-guaranteed. Sooo, by that rational, the term “swat operator” is not a recognized title in the CPD. Since you are so adamant about calling yourself an “operator,” I’m going to give you an example of why you cannot call yourself an “operator:” Dana Starks cannot go on TV and change his title on TV from Interim Superintendent to Pimp Master General.
Go back to watching BHD in your parent’s basement John J. as in John J. Rambo.
I was in SOS and have clout. But who gives a fuck. This job BLOWS!!
Anonymous said...
Why does Chicago need cops with M16s, or Ar15s?...
11/01/2007 08:38:00 AM
Because the department of defense wont give us M1-A1 tanks.
Being on the team and not letting the guy next to you down is what it's all about.
Big deal you can shoot or run. Half the dept. with a little practice can pass the shooting. Thousands ran the marathon. Should they be on the team? Attitude, mind set, motivation, discipline, and sacrifice. Everyone talks a good game but very few walk the walk.
Training to go against someone who has trained for you and has superior firepower is a lot dfferent. Different in that if you don't have skill and teamwork, bravery is worthless.
There is a lot of military guys on the job but what does that mean. Who will try out? Who will leave there spots? We will see come game day.
As an operator once said,"That's how we roll".
to the R.E.M.F.'s... What makes the grass grow?
By the way,been hearing how good the swat shooters are but we never get to see this,sounds like the swat guy that says there are none better should have come to the toys for tots event,a great charity event.I believe cpd from 016 and 018 were among the top shooters for the 3rd year running,and i know those guys are not on swat,just food for thought
EDWARDS, Those of us who truly know you, rather that spouting anger and repeating rumors know why you are where you are and it has nothing to do with clout . Just let it roll and keep pushing forward so you don’t have to sign anything as former or dumped .
HELL YES I'M TRANSFERING OUT OF A SOUTHSIDE DIST AND GOING DOWNTOWN TO SEE HOW REAL PEOPLE ACT AND TREAT EACH OTHER. I'M TIRED OF OL BOY JUMPN ON HIS PREGANAT BABBY MOMMA AND BABA THE CRACK BABY ACTING A FOOL DURING SCHOOL
As an operator once said,"That's how we roll".
to the R.E.M.F.'s... What makes the grass grow?
IT'S CERTAINLY NOT YOU....YOU POMPOUS JAG BAG...
You have some kind of nerve calling unconnected P.O.'S doing the job, REMF'S, FUCK WAD CLOUT BABY.
Other then shooting the city's ammo and training on the city's dime, NAME ONE THING SWAT HAS DONE ON THE STREET THAT'S BEEN WORTHWHILE?
Hey phone call trixie, you let all that juice fuck with your melon, stop drinking the Kool-Aid and screw your head back on the right way!
BTW, when was the last time SWAT killed anybody other than a paper target?
If your an operator, can I please have the number for unemployment because this jub sucks like you.
I am glad all those sos people are bidding to their own districts. They'll do some work for a while until the politicians and bosses start screaming about all their relatives and friends getting arrested. But for just a little while, we'll actually see our tax dollars at work. By the way, You're all elite! Who else would get up and go to work under these depressing conditions. It too shall pass.
By the way, You're all elite!
As a civilian, I have to concur with the above post about the police. Just because people say they "hate" the police does not mean that everyone actually does.
Afterall, are we all twelve?
Stay safe everyone.
Let's sell that swat truck, and all the weapons we don't need them anyway in "daleys chicago." If you do anything he will do his best along with the pathetic sao to get you not just fired but charged also! If something happens "Go west young man go West"! Yes I am a proud member of the "DOG ASS CLUB LOCAL FOP7," We get no response from a fraternal organization on phone calls emails or in person! Get your pension and watch each others backs that is all!
Edwards, HEY SQUID! The thought of you still in SFG while I am now in a shithole makes me very angry. I'm fucking pissed at CPD. I have been a HBT/SWAT operator for years. My extensive training far surpasses any training you have ever received from the military. I was never in the service, but I can outshoot the best Marine or Army snipers you can find.
You can bark cadence all you want, but aren't USMC no more. In the end, you know I deserve to be where you are!
If your Pop wasn't the head of the OEMC and didn't know the Interim so well, do you actually believe you would be sitting where you are? The thought of you as an operator is a disservice to ALL the SWAT left. How are you with a busted knee going to fireman carry people up or down stairs? Think about that hero, because your knee will definitely be feeling the effects IF you pass the test. By the way you are in SFG because of your racial makeup. Starks wants more blacks in SWAT. You are dark and I am not. Call it want you will. This City sucks!
Yo Edwardos. Or is it Eduardos since you are Dominican and hispanic? You DID NOT clean out your locker like the rest of us. We were asking each other "Hey, why isn't Ray Ray packing his shit up. He is still sitting in the roll call room, while we're all boxing up our shit?" Say we're wrong, we dare you.
You KNEW you was staying clout baby. Fuck you!
-001 dist
ps 9:30PM swat guy is a clout baby goof like you!
Hmmm...I hope Edwards can sleep at night knowing his heavy hands probably are the REASON why his partner got kicked off swat? Sleep well. -a deuce cop
I'm a former SWAT officer. Not an operator! For Christsakes you guys preaching bs about operators make us sound like tools! Reading these messages has made me realize how much SOS pukes really chapped my ass!
If you guys would have sailed right, then we'd still be afloat. We meaning those of us who got dumped. We had nothing to do with your scandals!
Edwards, you are right about one thing...you will make swat...even with a busted knee. Your clout will get you access to the war room. That's it son. For you SWAT ends there.
Answer me this EDWARDS. Can you shoot 98% or better, because they launched me from swat and I could. Oh that's right! CPD doesn't give a damn about guys who KNOW they can get the job done. CPD wants people like you that only thinks they can get the job done. Don't try to patronize real operators like myself by calling us officer. The term is SWAT OPERATOR!
I EARNED THAT RIGHT!!!
No one else in CPD can come close to our firearms training. Nobody else understands the complexities of conducting a breach to save people's lives. Maybe even a fellow cop. You wannabe's can now get a clue!
-swat operator
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are you 13 years old?
how about swat "gearing up"
regular po's on this dept, go into buildings and solve the problem before swat even shows up.
YEAH WE ALL STRIVE TO BE "ELITE" IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER,& SOME WILL SELL THEIR SOULS TO MAKE THAT DREAM A REALITY.
IF A 2 YEAR WONDER HAS A 1OO DOMESTICS UNDER HIS BELT, WHAT DOES A 20 YEAR VET HAVE? 1000,S TENS OF THOUSANDS?
YET THEY GO OUT &HANDLE THOSE JOBS W/O OUT THE NEED TO BE VALIDATED. THEY ARE TRULY THE ELITE NOT REQUIRING THE PREREQUSITE "PAT ON THE BACK"...
11/02/2007 12:39:00 AM
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the most dangerous call is a domestic. Second to a disturbance call. Going to a domestic or disturbance call will get you killed or injured by odds more than HBT, warrant, traffic stop, or drug bust.
Personally I believe you swat guys are scared little men. You are all talk and no action. You fear the reality of your scope. You give Edwards shit because he is going to take your job. Without question he will. He has more discipline than you all. He takes orders better than anyone I have ever supervised. He is without a doubt the best SFG has in it's formation. In time, you all going to be eating your words of hate. He can do it all. That's what Marines do. They outshoot, outrun, outdo every branch of service. CPD is no exception. The finest officers are US Marines! You all know he can shoot better than all you. You know he has more weapons knowledge than all you. He will adapt and overcome his knee situation. Pain is temporary. He will outshoot you and this bothers you. You perceive a knee injury can stop a former US Marine? You had better train up on your quarterly fires, because the Devil Dog is coming to have you launched and he's training hard. Believe that!
Something is inherently wrong when swat officers pick on one of the greatest sos officers ever. Don't kid yourselves. He has no clout. RE is in SFG, because he is that damn good!
No one said a SWAT officer is worth more than any other officer. A SWAT officer is better trained in the tactical side of being a police officer. That s what it is nothing more or less.
Sixty year old female police officers answer domestics.
We could always go back to patrol but can you step up ???
Hey 2:29 am do your homework on SWAT before you start asking questions.. Term R.E.M.F. got you all up in a bunch..Come on out and we'll show you how "WE ROLL"
Toys for Tot shoot was won by a SWAT officer not a 016 or 018 Dist officer. Check the stats
Anonymous said...
No one else in CPD can come close to our firearms training. Nobody else understands the complexities of conducting a breach to save people's lives. Maybe even a fellow cop. You wannabe's can now get a clue!
-swat operator
YOUR A FUCKING JACKSTICK
4:20PM
Did EDWARDS write this??? Greatest SOS officer??? Man, he is suffering from serious roid rage.
All this whining and crying by all these so-called "operators"has me laughing...You had it good when you were there and now you got launched;get over it and work a beat car or a rapid response car..No one cares or gives a shit about what happened to you..Change your diaper and slap on some ointment to prevent chafing..
+++++++ALERT++++++++++ALERT++++++++
MAYOR DALEY JUST ANNOUNCED THE SWAT TRUCK,ALONG WITH THE COMMAND VAN AKA:PARTY CITY WILL BE USED AS A "PICTURE CENTER", RUN BY ALDERMAN MUNOZ TO REOPEN HIS PHOTO STUDIO,AS HE GOT AWAY WITH IT AGAIN AND NOW WILL USE THESE "MOBILE UNITS" TO COME TO THE BORDER AND TAKE PICTURES ON THE SPOT TO TRANSPORT YOU TO "DALEYS CHICAGO"! WHERE YOU PAY NO TAXES,FREE SCHOOLS ALBEIT SHIT SCHOOLS,FREE MEDIACL CARE AND THE CITIZENS WHO ARE LEGAL AND PAY THE TAXES WILL BE BURDENED WITH PAYING FOR YOUR BABY MAKING ILLEGAL NON-COTRIBUTING ASSES!
Enough bad talk! Try outs are coming out city wide. Swat encourges all to try out and is seeking the best qualified individuals. If some one is unqualified and makes the team, that officer and or sergeant will be called out by his peers. It has been done in the past and documented. No swat officers have been dumped for calling out incompetent fellow swat officers/supervisors. Try calling out your supervisor in a district or unit and see how quick they are to get you for insubordination. In swat the officers/supervisors are receptive to improving the team!
R. Edwards is the greatest SOS officer left in SFG. They at least kept the finest officer Unit 153 ever had. Hopefully he will be waived in on SWAT. Thank God!!!
Never would I think I would have seen the day when a few pissed off bitches in a unit would feed a story to a jackstick like Goudie.
Man the egos of you swat bitches...
you've only made yourselves look worse. Do you really think Starks is going to do anything the way you'd like him to NOW? Bunch of pussies...
In order to ensure the best individuals doing the job, there should have been city wide tryouts for swat in the first place.
If you have all these bad feelings towards your fellow police officers because of their skin color or because you got dumped, then maybe you should be a man for once and tell them to their face instead of writing it on a blog.
As a former swat operator, I would like to point out that the arguments made against people remaining in SFG...like Edwards...have nothing to do with the color of their skin. We are angry that someone like him is allowed to stay simply because of who he knows and others are dumped because they are clout-less.
Domonican or not, on the race code of SFG it will say he is black. The dumped swat guys were ALL white except for one. That guy was Edward's partner. That's why we are angry!
Do a story on that!
12:03
If EDWARDS had CLOUT wouldn't he have used that CLOUT to save his partner Stepney from getting dumped off of SWAT?
Exactly. EDWARDS does not have clout. His father does not head OEMC and does not know Starks.
EDWARDS is just a regular guy like the rest of us in SFG. You fucking cry baby SWAT fucks need to lay off EDWARDS! By the way, it is spelled Dominican you SWAT retards!!! Use a fucking spell check!!!!
-SFG guy
Hey, you 004 hardons who are talking shit about us. Very soon you will know why we SOS cops were called elite. Guess what? When we arrive, we're taking your rapid cars and tac cars. Best part is you can't stop us. Everyone knows who we are! Talk shit now JAGOFFS!
If Edwards cannot run because of a repeatedly injured knee, then how the fuck is he going to pass the swat physical? The USMC bounced him, why should we be any different? NOW, I've heard clout can do wonders, but a physical agility test should count for something in swat right? Care to comment Ray?
-swat operator
Starks said that oen tryouts would be solicited for SWAT starting TODAY. Get ready, heavy "operators." I would guess that when the tryouts are completed, there will be less of you so-called "original" operators left as well.
Maybe, just maybe, the "new" operators will ANSWER THEIR PHONES when they are called out to a job.
Maybe, just maybe, some of the Sgts. who claim to be "at training" will BE TRAINING, and not at some suck-up party on city time.
Why is the "roided gimp" Edwards being so quiet at SFG lately? Could it be because he knows the entire swat team is fed up with his bullshit lies? Word at SFG is if Edwards doesn't pass the physical for SWAT, he's getting dumped like his partner was to 002.
Reason being, his comment on SCC has really pissed off some SWAT operators, who now refuse to work with him IF he passes.
-swat guy
Maybe SWAT should go back to OCD and reclaim the High Risk Entry Team moniker. They did a great job back then. Came out on a couple of our warrants back then, and we were impressed with what they did, and how they did it.
When they changed over to SOS, they lost a step. Heard the way it went down wasn't pretty, done on the sneak. Most of the guys on the original OCD team remained in NAGIS. The way things have gone for SOS, it seems they made the smart choice.
It’s ridiculous how rumors on this job take on a life of their own, and how much racism is rearing it’s ugly head. Nothing Edwards said on SCC was a lie and it can all be proven . When he was sitting in the roll call room his things were already packed. He has no clout,NONE he IS not related to any high ranking brass and has no connections. It’ a shame how someone can start a lie and others listen to them like their mouth is a prayer book instead of checking things out for themselves. No one should have to justify themselves to the man that is supposed to have his back. I would work with him any day of the week because I know he would have my back. We all need to grow up. This is getting really childish.
Edwards claims he can shoot 96% on the swat test. He claims he cannot pass the run due to a knee injury. He claims not to have clout. He claims to be Dominican not black.
As a former swat operator, where we relied on guys we could trust, do you really want a guy like that? I would hope that the CPD will make sure that he indeed passes the run, before bringing him aboard because he has a phone call.
Edwards, you have more clout than most people. You were always spouting off at the mouth about your clout. Why all of a sudden do you claim to have none?
I think trusting you is an issue for future swat operators.
And YES, I would love for you to take a piss test SEAMAN.
I think EDWARDS should square off against MOPE-RAH. Both he and Mitchell have a difficult time telling the truth.
My money's on MOPE-RAH, because she is black and can admit it. The other is a severely confused Dominican.
He isn't a SEAMAN...he's just a SWABBIE...get it right!
-swat operator
3:46PM LMAO!!!!!!
Yeah, but MOPE-RAH wasn't a Marine. EDWARDS has that edge, but then again, she hails from Maywood. Wonder if she can shoot 96%?
Hey, maybe she should try-out for SWAT? Let EDWARDS write for the Slum-Times.
-former swat operator
EDWARDS, you owe each and every SWAT operator, past and present, an apology.
Until you man up and apologize on here like you know you should, then we are going to continue giving you the crap you deserve.
-USMC in SWAT
SCC Moderator , You failed to put my first post up ,interesting ?!!! Now that I've learned to appreciate this site for what it truly is ( a forum for the ranting of closet racist) I've found it to be very humoruos. you two guys are funny,especially when you type in those phoney black dailects !!! LMAO Such sardonic wit. ZEIG HIEL !!!
"Former SWAT " hike up your skirt,pull your pantiesout of your but and move on with your life !!! I mean ,once upon a time you were a bed wetter ,but you let that go right. Right ?!!!
which comment would that be? we're moderating upwards of 350 comments a day. which rule did you violate that caused us to reject your comment?
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