Vote With Your Wallet
- Effective New Year's Day, it will cost another 5 cents to buy bottled water within the Chicago city limits, thanks to a tax that is the first of its kind in the country.
But several organizations are out to invalidate the new tax, which was approved in November as part of Mayor Richard M. Daley's $275 million city budget.
The Illinois Beverage Association is among the groups that plans to file a lawsuit to invalidate the tax. The organization argues that the tax will "disproportionately hurt low- and fixed-income families, who spend a greater percentage of their income on food and drinks. This includes senior citizens."
In this case, the organizations and associations are just making lawyers richer. Municipalities can attempt to levy taxes on anything they want.
But voters can purchase things anywhere they want. We, as a matter of habit, do all of our shopping in the suburbs; gas, food, clothing, etc. Everything we can, we purchase outside city limits. We make sure the Daley machine has to stretch for any penny they get out of us.
If enough people stop buying bottled water in the city, the tax may eventually be repealed.
But voters can purchase things anywhere they want. We, as a matter of habit, do all of our shopping in the suburbs; gas, food, clothing, etc. Everything we can, we purchase outside city limits. We make sure the Daley machine has to stretch for any penny they get out of us.
If enough people stop buying bottled water in the city, the tax may eventually be repealed.
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
76 Comments:
daley again wants more money for his "criminal enterprise"! WTF! I buy everything outside this shit city! with daley going as far as making this a sanctuary city for the illegal jagoffs to give them more of "our money"! When will he go to jail, along with his entire family?
here is what I do...I went to the store, spent 3.75 on a....water bottle. I fill it up, just like they do at the plant. I drink it. If i run out, I refill it. When it gets nasty, i wash it. I never understood why people throw away a buck at a time, not to mention the waste that goes into the ground. Im really not a liberal or a hippie, but doesn't this make sense? Oh wait, I forgot. Duh. We aren't suppossed to do what makes sense...its in the go's somewhere...
i can't believe people still buy fuel/ciggarettes/liqour in this county, let alone city.
it's a big wide world out there and a midnight trip to another county or indiana is quicker than you think.
i don't even care how much i save. i just do it cause it feels soo good !
once again :
a post about financial matters affecting all of us....24 posts.
1st topic about TRU 137 posts and the second 168.
enjoy the bread and circuses while they last.
I can see Hometown (south) from my house and i am about 20 seconds from Evergreen Park (east) and Oak Lawn(west) Guess where i shop?????
Thank God I can walk across the street into Norridge.
Just another example of how demoRATS screw the working class; taxing us to death to fund their defunct social programs.
Whats next, breathing tax? It really doesn't matter because the only people paying it would be those who work.
Its kind of funny when you think about it. People should be encouraged to drink water rather then sugary drinks. It is a healthier alternative and if more did, the small health benefit would probably save more money in health care costs overall then the tax would generate. Why was there no tax increase on the kool-aid "baby bottle" style drinks that seem to be getting more popular. I guess I will just start buying my water in bulk in the burbs.
I think I have my retirement job lined up. I will open a chain of convenience stores in all the suburbs on the border streets. Do you recall that, "Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms" should be the name of a convenience store? That's what we will have and the name of the stores will be,
NO CHICAGO TAXES!!
Along with gasoline and bottled water it will have all the things that Daley wants to tax or eliminate, along with bottles water we will sell jugs of trans-fat oil, platters of foi gras and bullets of all calibers.
At the entrance of each store, there will be a life size, 4 foot 11 inch cigar store Indian type bobble head statue of Richie. As each customer comes in they can bounce the bobble head and hear such phrases as, "Don't shop here, I want your money!!"
State of Illinois
County of Cook
City of Chicago
All run by Democrats.
All looking to run our lives for us with all of hese new laws and taxes. Won't these assholes ever learn. Probably not. since fools still vote for them
NOW I KNOW WHY I'M VOTTING REPUBLICAN NO MATTER WHO THEY RUN.
I would never buy any thing in Cook County ever again. All christmas shopping done in Kenosha County inclueding a new car for the wife,
"But voters can purchase things anywhere they want. We, as a matter of habit, do all of our shopping in the suburbs; gas, food, clothing, etc. Everything we can, we purchase outside city limits."
And those citizens who aren't as blessed with mobility as you are?
Like home-bound seniors?
Like the impoverished who can't afford a car, or to insure/register the hooptie they can barely afford to put gas in?
Like those who can't or won't learn how to drive?
Like those who barely earn enough to keep a roof over their heads?
Yeah, I know, let them drink tap water.......
Bottled water has no flouride in it so its actually bad for your and especially your kids teeth!
Tap water is fine!
Screw the Daley Crime Cartel!
Taxation without representation.
What's wrong with good old tap water, especially if you are on a fixed income or public aid?
Oh, right, that doesn't stop anyone from owning an expensive car with rims too! WTF!
I agree with 12/28/2007 11:18:00P.M.
Bottled water is nothing but a big scam. Buy yourself a bottle fill it with tap water and drink it. People who complain about paying $3.00 for a gallon of gas have no problem with paying much more a gallon for bottled water. Most of the brands you drink are double filtered straight out of Lake Michigan. It is no more healthful than tap water, and much more expensive.
It's called tap water people, look into it. It's free!
I would never buy any thing in Cook County ever again. All christmas shopping done in Kenosha County inclueding a new car for the wife,
You still have to pay the taxes for IL. Cook Co., and Chicago when you buy a car out of state. I bought out of state and still got screwed by the tax man for not paying the taxes.
Isn't that nice! Earn money in the city,but don't spend it there. Just where in the hell do you think your pay rasies come from? Sales taxes maybe! And by the way, just how many coppers buy bottled water?
If you can't have a couple of small bottles that you can fill at home or the district, your college education was a waste of money.
I NEVER buy gas in this city NEVER!! All the burbs are minutes away....save cash, F*CK DALEY!!
our family spent in the vicinity of $3000 on christmas gifts-ALL were purchased in INDIANA.do not purchase in ILLINOIS,CROOK COUNTY OR THE CITY OF CHICAGO.all groceries,gas,major appliances and next vehicle purchase will be purchased in other consumer friendly municipalities!let us start voting with our wallets and show our that we are no longer going to tolerate TAXATION BY CROOKED REPRESENTATION"
So will the guys selling bottled water at intersections in the summer be raising their prices?
They say this tax will hurt "low income" people. I have worked in "low income" areas for the last 16 years, I can honestly say that in that time I have never, not once, seen a local resident of these areas drinking a bottle of Evian!
Would have been interesting had they added a quarter to the tax on quarts of beer though....
if you don't like the tap water, buy a britta water pitcher and filter your own; tastes great.
(no, i do not own stock in britta).
Only a liberal schnook like Daley would screw the people he says he "serves" my taxing ANY kind of food necessity.
Respectfully
DW
(not a cop)
Oh yea and one more thing, if Daley and his merry band of theives were serious about reducing the cities budgetary gap, he'd make it his business to put a stop to those landlords who abuse the Homstead Real Estate Tax exemption by claiming it on one or more rental properties that are not where the landlord lives.
The amount of tax revenue lost by these tax cheaters sticking it to the rest who pay there fair share of taxes is huge.
If it takes building inspectors, water or parking meter readers, street sweepers or building management or condo association affidavids to re-affirm residents of properties designated as tax exempt by Homstead Exemption are actually the princpal residence of the registered owner, do it!
Make it a huge penalty to the landlord like forfiture of the property if a tennent makes a claim that they have been the resident of such a residence.
That alone would police such abuse. The city and tennnt would share in the proceeds of the tax sale of property.
Stopping such abuse that results in such a huge loss of tax reciepts is doable.
My tin-foil cap tells me it doesn't get addressesd because the merry band of thieves that manage this city and county dont want to close the barn door on this rip-off of the rest of us becuse in keeping the status quo there is something in it for them like $$$ to ignore the abuse.
Respectfully,
DW
(not a cop)
P.S.
For a CPD Det. aquaintance of mine:
The REAL POLICE in this city served in the 2nd Dist. '89-'96.
I may be wrong but it seems that a large number of po's live closer to the bordering city limits near suburban municipalities rather than towards the city central areas.
Is this correct?
If so, take advantage of the locations by re fueling, cigarette purchasing, water, booze, etc. in bordering the city and / or cook county. It's fically advantageous.
Po's assigned to some districts , such as 4th, have a special advantage to be able to go beyond state taxing boundaries.
It's all a matter of money $$$
Every pol in the country knows it.
Every penny a citizen can save from going into the tax coffers of city hall is important.
Why buy "Chicago" ? Why put pin striped suits on Eddie "Goose Liver" B.?
How bout a tax on rock cocaine??
Put a tax on grape soda and flamin hot cheese puffs.
Maybe the residency requirement in the city is positioned there in order to re-tax the city employees as consumers.
Tax their pay and tax their consumptions.
"Pullmanesque"
Why don't they just pay the city employees with script spendable only in the city limits?
"Dickie Bucks" they could be called and they evaporate if saved or not spent by the end of every month.
The idea is an inter city "euro"
and taxes in printing as well as administering could be applied and hiked to stay on top of the cost of living percentages each year.
i suppose there is enough in the budget to give Daley's SON a nice paycheck......
On duty, we have several gas stations/liqour stores that are nice enough to offer us bottled water or other beverages at no charge. God bless the ghetto for keeping us in business and hydrated!
Anonymous said...
Bottled water has no flouride in it so its actually bad for your and especially your kids teeth!
Tap water is fine!
Screw the Daley Crime Cartel!
12/29/2007 02:38:00 AM
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The best part of it is that all you homeowners PAY THE CITY TO GIVE YOU WATER FROM LAKE MICHIGAN! hahahah
You want bottled water without the tax? One word "Canteen".
What's wrong with good old tap water, especially if you are on a fixed income or public aid?
Oh, right, that doesn't stop anyone from owning an expensive car with rims too! WTF!
12/29/2007 06:16:00 AM
if you read the article dumb ass, that comment was made by the illinois beverage association not by someone who is low income. somebody always gotta through some dumb shit in.
FORGET NORRIDGE OR EVERGREEN PARK, WHEN I SHOP I DO IT ONCE AT WEEK IN EITHER NAPERVILLE, OSWEGO OR PLAINFIELD , I HAVE FAMILY THAT LIVES THERE, NEXT YEAR I AM BUYING A NEW 2008 FORD ESCAPE AT A FORD DEALERSHIP IN WILMINGTON,ILL. F-CK DALEY AND STROGER. ALSO WHEN DALEY PASSES THE CELL PHONE TAX I TRANSFERRING MY CELL PHONE TO MY BROTHERS ADDRESS IN NAPERVILLE.
AND REMEMBER GOP TOM CROSS FOR GOVERNOR.
don't care about the 5 cent tax
I drink tap water the tax will pay for our 4 % pay raise
What the hell is a racial prophylactic? Danny Davis hep me pease!
the most retarded tax ever. i know that the bottle are filling up the landfills, and fucking up the enviroment.
with americans, especally chicagoians, getting fatter by the day. this tax will cause them to stop buying water and buy bottles of pop that are full of sugar, but no tax.
if anything we need to get on the deposit system like other states. put a nickle on the bottle but let us recycle them to get our money back.
I live by Irving Park Road and Cumberland.
I go straight west on Irving Park until I hit fuckin' Dupage County at York Road.
The gas is up to 20 cents cheaper and I'll be damned if I pay a cent more in taxes for food and bottled water.
FUCK YOU Daley and Stroger.
ROT in prison and then hell one day!!
"I go straight west on Irving Park until I hit fuckin' Dupage County at York Road."
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More and more trains are blocking York Road and Irving Park lately.
It has westbound traffic blocked for miles.
I think Daley has something to do with it!!
Why are we complaining about this tax?? Taxes pay our salary, our benefits, plow our streets, etc. I avoid this tax by drinking tap water. I can carry a container of tap water. I have to live in the city, so I own a house with property taxes. I'd rather have outsiders and yuppie bottle water drinkers pay tax than me. I'm not saying that Daley spends wisely - I'm just happy to have someone pay a tax that I can choose NOT to pay.
PAYROLL QUESTION?????????
Guys I haven't got my stub yet and I went to the bank and my payroll deposit (direct) was off about 150.00 to 165.00 in my net. I know my wife put us in for more FLEXIBLE SPENDING BENEFIT but to my knowledge that was suppposed to be a FEDERAL TAX thing that only affects your gross and the NET would stay the same. At least that is what it is supposed to be. Is Payroll screwing up here? I do not know! I can't afford the PAYCUT right now! LITTLE HELP?
Anyone else have similar issues? Please advise!
Will soon Call Payroll and will look at stub too.
12/29/2007 01:53:00 AM
Hey Kenosha car buyer, you will (or already have) paid King Richard his tax on your new car.....most car dealers there charge you Chicago tax already (have since at least 2004) and if they didn't you WILL receive a bill in the mail. Don't pay it and you'll get spar'd at work, just like not paying your water bill or parking tickets!!
Send the TRU unit to the suburbs to buy water for the city. They can then pass it out on every police holiday.
They will save us. MY HEROS!!!!!!
What's wrong with good old tap water, especially if you are on a fixed income or public aid?
Don't worry the TRU will bring water. Call them waterboys
Good Solution, buy it by the case outside Chicago/Crook County, like gas , smokes, EVERYTHING ! You'll save money in the long run, and f*c# water-head Daley and company too.
I buy NOTHING in Crookago or Crook County any more unless absolutely necessary. Why should I? So the Crooked politicians can give my tax dollar away to welfare deadbeats and Illegals here in Sanctuary City? I think not. My family already gives up way too much tax dollars to this corrupt regime and gets little in return.
Why is water being singled out? Doesn't soda, gatorade, juice, etc all come in plastic bottles? Why are those drinks not being taxed? I smell a rat, no suprise with Daley in charge. Could it be he wants us to buy less bottled water and drink more tap water? Does it have anything to do with his push for metered water? Maybe he gets a cut per gallon used. Something else is not being told to us.
Hey, 2:38. sorry, but you're misled. Fluoride is poison, which is exactly why I only drink spring water (it has to say spring on the label, otherwise, it's glorified and fluoridated tap water). Research it and you'll see.
costco on touhy niles no tax by your water there
3 bottles of water consumes the same energy as 20,000 8 oz. glasses of tap water! production (petroleum), transport (crude), refrigeration (coal to produce electricity), disposal (petro, crude, coal... etc etc..)think about that! not to mention, a plastic bottle will take several thousands of years to break down... ever followed the immigrant march in July? or any other parade/march in the summer time? youre talking tens if not hundreds of thousands of bottles the city is NOT recycling! boycott bottled water and get a Brita
Bottled water has no flouride in it so its actually bad for your and especially your kids teeth!
actually, no flouride isnt bad for your teeth, it just doent help them
Bottled water is one of the highest profit margin items there is. Several firms have come out publicly and admitted they use Chicago tap water. Say what you will about the mopes that run the city but Chicago Tap water has been proven to be some of the purest in the world.
Chicago recently raised the rates for the suburban pipeline they sell water to and the rates in the suburbs went up also.
Two other taxes are close to being passed; A tax on tattoos and a hair cut tax.
All I can say is COSTCO in Bedford Park, 40 bottles for $4!!! and nothing to daley.
Anonymous said...
I would never buy any thing in Cook County ever again. All christmas shopping done in Kenosha County inclueding a new car for the wife,
12/29/2007 01:53:00 AM
Yeah but unless you have a Wisconsin address, daley will still get his tax money from that car..
Like those who barely earn enough to keep a roof over their heads?
Yeah, I know, let them drink tap water.......
12/29/2007 02:11:00 AM
Hey douche bag, I grew up on tap water and still drink it, what's wrong with that??
If our jack-ass mayor was concerned about the waste from bottled water, he would've imposed a deposit system on bottles, cans etc. When I was a kid, there was a deposit on glass pop bottles. Put that same .10 deposit on every bottle or can, whether it's glass, plastic or aluminum and watch all this waste disappear from our roadsides and streets. If he was concerned about the waste and landfills, he would look into a deposit system, but if there's no money in it for him, he doesn't give a shit...
Be SAFE!
"If our jack-ass mayor was concerned about the waste from bottled water, he would've imposed a deposit system on bottles, cans etc. When I was a kid, there was a deposit on glass pop bottles. Put that same .10 deposit on every bottle or can, whether it's glass, plastic or aluminum and watch all this waste disappear from our roadsides and streets. If he was concerned about the waste and landfills, he would look into a deposit system, but if there's no money in it for him, he doesn't give a shit..."
Actually, the midget mayor could have had it both ways, as in, deposits on plastic containers, with all unredeemed deposits defaulting to the city's coffers.
Shit, requiring even 1 cent deposits on all individual glass containers, metal cans, recyclable plastic containers, etc., with the retailer being required to receipt the total deposit amount collected, and all unredeemed monies payable to the city, on, say, a quarterly basis, would both raise plenty of revenue and provide an economic incentive to those whose neighborhoods are consistently strewn with trashy debris.
Plus, think of the new vistas which would be opened for the city's many scavenging entrepreneurs.
""Why is water being singled out? Doesn't soda, gatorade, juice, etc all come in plastic bottles? Why are those drinks not being taxed? I smell a rat, no suprise with Daley in charge. Could it be he wants us to buy less bottled water and drink more tap water? Does it have anything to do with his push for metered water? Maybe he gets a cut per gallon used. Something else is not being told to us.""
Um nope. There is already an extra sody-pop tax in this city.
its so much nicer to shop in suburbs anyway. people actually smile at you and say hello. no j/o shitbirds riding around with there hooptys and bad attitudes. 8 to go and the remax sign goes up in front of the house. already explained to my kids that they have no future in this shithole. been a city kid all my life but chicago is doomed to turn into a detroit.
"requiring even 1 cent deposits on all individual glass containers, metal cans, recyclable plastic containers, etc., with the retailer being required to receipt the total deposit amount collected, and all unredeemed monies payable to the city, on,"
will drive even more business to the burbs.
I actually like Chicago tap water, but Richie thinks we are not paying enough for it. The meter costs how much----$400-1000 and has to be put in by a union plumber, one of the few unions that endorse the mayor because they have a "prevailing wage" contract with the city.
They say your water bills could go down when metered versus flat rate. If you think you water bills will go down, I'll sell you the top 10 feet of Lake Michigan.
remember the good old days when we drank water from the garden hose. Ahh, that was refreshing!
I TALKED TO 2 GIN MILL OWNER WHO RELATED THAT THEY ARE NOT RE-NEWING THEIR CIGARETTE VENDORS PERMITS.
THEY SAID WHAT THE POINT OF YOUR CUSTOMERS OUT IN THE COLD AND RAIN.
LET SEE NOW HOW MANY TIMES CAN THE BONE HEADS AT CITY HALL TAX SINS TO LOSE MONEY.
BOTTLE WATER
CIGARETTES
YOUR DOG
VENDING MACHINES
YOUR CAR
PARKING PERMITS
CELL PHONES
PARKING METERS
PARKING IN A PARKING LOT
CTA FAIRS
YOUR HOME PHONE
EXPECT THE CITY STICKER TO GO UP AGAIN BECAUSE OF THSES GREAT IDEAS.
I call for a 10% tax on grape drink & Cigarellos!
for me i dont care i do most of my shopping in niles
hey papa smurf i agree give it a few years and this dump is detroit and i hope i turn into robocop
Sgt. EBay knows how to save money....he uses his water bottle over and over and over....you get the picture.
what about the contruction companies that the city hires to perform work IN the city.....alot of them come from Indiana and the burbs. I'll bet they don't contribute to Chicago's economy
city observer said...
what about the contruction companies that the city hires to perform work IN the city.....alot of them come from Indiana and the burbs. I'll bet they don't contribute to Chicago's economy
12/31/2007 04:00:00 AM
Lok at the O'hare construction mess, you have victor reyes former (kept her mouth shut) secretary making 200K running it for daley and friends! Mostly out of state indiana workers guess people in illionis cannot do basic labor work?
Anonymous said...
Sgt. EBay knows how to save money....he uses his water bottle over and over and over....you get the picture.
12/31/2007 03:51:00 AM
And never opens his wallet! Nice to be rich and shit on others who try to make a buck!
Anonymous said...
Sgt. EBay knows how to save money....he uses his water bottle over and over and over....you get the picture.
12/31/2007 03:51:00 AM
And who carries his water bottle for him?
Wesside is the Besside says---
"...would be interesting if they added the tax to the quarts of beer..."
Dawg--no one drinks from quarts no moe.
We all drank from the forty oh-zee.
It's the most beer you can have and keep the other hand free.
And who carries his water bottle for him?
12/31/2007 07:32:00 AM
Could it be another SGT named after a famous political family?
A tax repealed? Name any tax once in place ever repealed! Someone should have fought this water tax prior to be implemented.
Im going to sell bootleg non-taxed water,just like Capone.
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