State's Attorney Race
Seven candidates for Cook County state's attorney sparred at a community forum Sunday, but the biggest presence in the room was the spectre of disgraced former Police Commander Jon Burge.
Attorney James Montgomery, who was on a panel questioning the candidates and who has won big settlements in police misconduct cases, drew shouts of approval as he focused on Burge before the African-American crowd at Trinity United Church of Christ. Special prosecutors have concluded Burge and his underlings tortured suspects.
Burge's "activities" were not unique, Montgomery said. To cries of "You go, Jim," he asked, "Do you feel that police misconduct is a serious problem, and if you do, how will you address that problem?"
And yet, here's comes the Burge train, running over all comers in a State's Attorney race, painting an entire Department as out-of-control torturers jailing an entire generation or two of innocent citizens. What a crock of shit.
Seven idiots spending time debating how to overcome the Statute of Limitations and other nonsense:
Career prosecutors Anita Alvarez and Robert Milan said they had tried and convicted rogue officers. Both were still in college in the Burge era.
Touting a fresh start were Ald. Tom Allen (38th); defense lawyer Tommy Brewer; Ald. Howard Brookins (21st), and Cook County Commissioners Larry Suffredin and Tony Peraica.
Brewer said police perjury is as serious as unjust force. Suffredin said he would reorganize the office to guard against "too cozy a relationship" between certain police and prosecutors.
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
55 Comments:
All the crime in Crook County and the main issue they want to talk about is "police misconduct."
All because of a handfull of bad officers out of 13,500.
Every profession has assholes people, why is we are the only ones blasted on a consistant basis?
Tom Allen is a friend to the police and a tremendous guy!
the best was last week when milan and alvarez were swiping at each other regarding a certain po. milan stated that the injury sustained by said vic did not substantiate the charges placed against po. then why the fuck were the charges placed in the first place. once again a double standard. you want to prosecute a marginal case and it goes south, to bad. ask nifong what happens to prosecutors who play this game.
I wish someone would have addressed how Montgomery, when he was Washington's Corp.Con. looted the city treasury by re opening old complaints against police officers and giving huge settlements to friend lawyers. I'm sure none of them kicked back any cash to this bottom feeding parasite.
Any policeman who votes for ANY democRAT IS A TOTAL FOOL.
I was fucking four years old when this happened, and there are people on the street in the negative years when burge tourtured cop killers and a few shitheads. Christ, have the ASA read them some case reports that are worse, and see if they even care half as much.
Bob Milan was at De Paul University's Law School last night shilling for votes. He stated he prosecuted the shooter in the Airhart shooting and then in the next breath babbled on about rogue cops in SOS. He stated is going to have panels consisting of the community, local church officials, and the police department to help stem the over 500 homicides reported in Cook County. What a crock! He was desperate for votes,was glad handing everyone, and shameless in how many cards he handed out to students on the way out the door. Can you say stroke?
Tony Peraica a supporter of the Police!!
Why is Burge still and issue? Simple, the department has never come clean about who knew what and when. This would include current brass within the department There are still people on death row that might just have been tortured into a false confession. Is is not important to make sure they committed the crime they are convicted of? Also, the simple fact is historical brutality is easier issue to address than current abuse like SOS. Politicians do have to worry about pissing current cops off by calling for reform because the abuse they are talking about happened so long ago.
To Researcher:
Too bad your research didn't show that convicted felon and former governor Ryan emptied Death Row, so there is no one there who might have been tortured anymore.
And we sure would like to see the evidence Ryan says he saw that led him to that decision. Do you know that even to this day, not one shred of evidence has ever been presented by the felon-governor to justify his unilateral decision?
Better do some more research.
The more I watch the HBO TV show "The Wire" and the dysfunctional political interplay of Baltimore media, politicians and police, I realize this is real life CHICAGO.
Check it out! It's as raw and real as TV gets. Devious politicians, ghetto gangbangers, sanctimonious "revs", media mercenaries, frustrated police, etc.
Tom Allen is a great guy, loves the police.
Jack Murphy
Has anyone of these knuckledheads addressed gang crimes, or just crime in general. I am a civilian who reads the blog with great interest. Morale it seems as at an all time low and it would behoove these attorneys to address real and current issues. I was around and old enough to remember Officers Fahey and O"Brien murders as well as the Andrew brothers. Get the F--- over it and move on.
I can never imagine your work day just as you probably would not be comfortable doing the job I do, so I for one would like to say that most people do "get it" and side with the men and women in blue. Please know that there are people who have your back.
Here's a prediction. SCC, please take note. I predict that Dick Devine will indict some cops on the TRU (39th and Cal?) shooting on either Friday or Monday in an effort to give a boost to his a-hole, Milan. It's the case where Terry Ekl is the civil lawyer.
To the scc remark to "researcher"
Zing. Take that you bumbling fool.
8:38 AM
There aren't any people on death row from the Burge era. The sentences were all commuted by The felon George Ryan. Pay attention Jackass.
"Tony Peraica a supporter of the Police!!
1/29/2008 07:45:00 AM"
Not just that, it gets better.
Peraica HATES the Crook County Democratic Party of criminals.
HATES them.
REALLY, REALLY HATES them.
A kindred spirit.
Elect him as our next State's Attorney.
Then let the games begin.
GOD BLESS JON BURGE!
So I guess we will have to register our duty weapons with the county too?
shouts of approval as he focused on Burge before the African-American crowd at Trinity United Church of Christ.
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That is the Black separatist church of Barak Obama!
http://www.tucc.org/about.htm
They had it there?? Will they have another debate on the northside also? Or does the SA office not care about those potential victims?
I'm still on the job and and I knew Jon Burge, no myth it's true yet we need to move on from this as Mayor Daley condoned and approved of what he along with others did, if you want to place the blame, then Daley would be your man.
Tom Allen is a friend to the police and a tremendous guy!
1/29/2008 12:01:00 AM
Nothing could be absolutely further from the truth. Do NOT vote for Allen...or Brookins, unless you want whatever shred of relations are left b/w CPD and the SAO to completely dissolve.
Tom Allen, my alderman, a waste of time. Has done NOTHING for our ward until recently. He will not get my damn vote. To 12:01:00 AM...then you must drink with him cuz when, after 28 years, a request is made, it still takes forever to get done and/or ignored.
SCC said...
To Researcher:
Too bad your research didn't show that convicted felon and former governor Ryan emptied Death Row, so there is no one there who might have been tortured anymore.
And we sure would like to see the evidence Ryan says he saw that led him to that decision. Do you know that even to this day, not one shred of evidence has ever been presented by the felon-governor to justify his unilateral decision?
Better do some more research.
1/29/2008 08:46:00 AM
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But, SCC, "researcher" "knows" that all cops lie and nobody really commits crime.
"researcher" needs to climb down from his ivory tower and join the dept for a year or two. He will be judged buy his activity and ability to solve real crimes.
Hey all you ASAs, remember don't bite the hand that feeds you. Without the police you are nothing, and you have nothing. Give it time and you will see what I speak of. Less bad guys getting locked up = less cases to prosecute = less ASAs needed. Officers get a clue, if you still want to make arrests to keep your stats up, make sure they are meaningless misdemeanor arrests that go nowhere in court. Let the unemployment rate for the ASAs soar. Want to keep promising to lock up coppers and charge and prosecute them unfairly, well then this is what you get, nothing. The clear up rate for homicides is 36% largely because of the 48hour rule in addition to the requirement of video taped interrogations. Detectives, you still do a great job even with those restrictions. But now it is time to stop,at least for a little while. Stop trying so hard. Read those miranda warnings nice and loud and slow until he truly understands his right to remain silent. Let that clear-up rate drop to single digits and see how many ASAs are needed. Maybe they can spend their time being saved from prosecuting cases to investigating their own shit. And remember they are not your friends officers.
Hey Mr. Milan, wasn't it you I spoke to last year regarding a certain States Attorney who nolle prosed an Attempt Murder of a Police Officer. I think her named rhymed with Bambino. Yeah that's right, I remember you said you admonished all attorneys involved in the case, meaning you did absolutely nothing to discipline these attorneys then assigned to Judge Fred Suria's room. Then the political favor called in to CPD by your office to shut me up. Well I'm back and maybe now is a good time to bring this to light. Hmm?
the suntimes is such a rag. Not one word about Perica! Not one.
Anyone that sudied Chicago Politics knows that the CCSA office can investigate corruption. We need Perica there something awful. The Machine will do everything, including cheating, to stop him. We need to do our part and help out.
If Tom Allen is such a friend to the police, then why does he continue to harp on the Burge case? He wants prosecutors to "be creative" in an effort to charge Burge with some crime.
We have few friends out there as it is.
Tom Allen's ads are the only ones I have seen that dont spend half of the ad talking about "police misconduct" or any variation of such. In fact, I havent heard mention of that bullshit in any of his ads... I do, however, hear him talk of going after gang bangers, drug dealers, and slum lords... So looks like Allen is the only one with a REAL agenda, not an agenda being dictated by m/1 bullshit reverends! He has my vote
Tom Allen is a friend to the police and a tremendous guy!
1/29/2008 12:01:00 AM
Tom Allen is a DOUCHEBAG, who looks like the terapin mascott from U. of Maryland. Friend of the police??? He sounds like a broken record spouting off about Burge and rouge police officers every time he emerges from his turtle shell to talk to the TV cameras. I repeat, he's a douche, who is only surpassed in his douche-ness by Howard Brookins
Every one and I mean every one of the candidates to States Atty. profess their pledge on "lt me tell you on how many coppers I can fuckup. SURE MAKES ME WANT TO VOTE FOR THESE ASSHOLES.
Bob Milan, Bob Milan, Bob Milan. When will when of you Media-types research and re-Air the video footage of Milan talking on camera at a bar in Wrigleyville last summer. . . in the final days before Barry Bonds broke the record? Bob MILAN was fucked-up-drunk ON CAMERA, on the TV news (Glassy eyed and all!) with his dumb-assed "755 Without the Juice" t-shirt. Drunk in public and on TV! NICE ONE BOB! And to all you 60643-Beverly Fucks who think Bob still lives there, he don't! HE LIVES IN FUCKING GLENVIEW! Acknowledge it already! Well, at least he isn't totally fucking stupid! HA!
Ask Bob Milan how he "Handled" the Area One Ralston Murder! (Old lady murdered near Bogan Computer Technical (ha) H.S. and sodomized with a Shotgun a couple years back). Nice job fucking that one up, Bob, by inserting your dumb ass into the Interview room before the Dicks returned from the crimescene. Oh well, I guess one Offender out of two ain't bad! Eh, Bob?
Electile Dysfunction: the inability to become aroused over any of the choices for president put forth by either party in the election year.
All I know is I look at who was endorsed by FOP and who wasnt and why. Like Jim Capparelli who is running for Congress in the 3rd District. FOP wouldnt given him the endoresement but went with lipinski who has never backed the police and even helps illegal aliens. FOP didnt like that Capparelli helped out Cops returning from Iraq to get their fair shake with the city. Capparelli even has Chicago Police in his family. I also know that Capparelli is an Army Ranger but the likes of FOP go with who they think has clout. Well that is stupid and an insult to us working coppers. Do you think for one second that they would endorse any of us if we ran? Guess MArk didnt like Capp's brother who is on FOP Board.I say back a guy for what he believes in and what he has done. Being tough on crime and criminals is Number #1 but not in this town or with FOP President. Come on MArk? Why should we vote for U then?
there are still detectives/sgts who were involved in the Burge case and are represented by attorneys. There may still be repercussions it isn't over yet
Tony Peraica a supporter of the Police!!
1/29/2008 07:45:00 AM
I have no idea where you got this info, pal, but you couldn't be more WRONG. Every other comment of his is about police misconduct and brutality. Unless, of course, he's talking to a blue shirt, then I'm sure he has a different script to use.
tom allen in dem primary and then peraica in the general. its the only way boys and girls
To SCC:
I could not agree with you more that information from every level of the criminal justice system needs to be more accessible. Ryan should have had to make his reasons for clearing death row public including why he thought some of those guys were innocent. The problem is that selective openness does not work, that is what we have now. Either all information is public or no information is public. I believe Ryan cleared death row simply to enhance his pending federal indictment and subsequent conviction. He was a corrupt bastard who has a heart of coal. He could not possibly care about the wrongfully convicted being killed. As for Burge era; it will never be set aside until there is a complete accounting for all the possible cases of wrongful conviction.
Anthony PERAICA for STATES ATTORNEY. No Democ-RAT Candidates are worth ANYTHING, a bunch of pandering liberal lap-dogs of the Crook-County Establishment.
People comment about Milan being drunk on TV and then 3 seconds later are endorsing Peraica? I guess he was stone sober when he lost his last election and gathered up a mob to march from his headquarters to 69 W. Washington to "check on" the ballots.......... He's a fuckin drunk too. As obnoxious as Milan is at least he doesn't storm buildings when he doesn't get his way.
Anonymous said...
Hey all you ASAs, remember don't bite the hand that feeds you. Without the police you are nothing, and you have nothing. Give it time and you will see what I speak of. Less bad guys getting locked up = less cases to prosecute = less ASAs needed. Officers get a clue,
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WELL said!!!
Bravo! I really hope every one of US takes notice to this statement!
I used to rake in the $$$$ for court and now I find it dwindling away because I don't believe in it no more and I am not going to take any extra risks to "make things happen" for the UNGRATEFUL, CYNICAL, JAGOFF, ASA's that ACT like they like us or even respect us!
Our bosses are soft too if they believe we are doing any good here too!
Go get the NUMBERS?
GO GET THEM YOURSELF .....YA GOOF!
I got my numbers and I did my time in court for numerous years and BURNT myself out and REAPED in CR.#'s FOR WHAT? and FOR WHO?
I made money and I RUNG IT UP!
I never needed a side job because I had one COURT!
Now I am looking for side work like all the others I thought were fooling themselves running to banks and security gigs. They never had the problems I have and the stress I have from RUNNING and testifying like many other guys I am sure!
I did my time and hell I WOULD continue to ROLL but THEY DON"T WANT US TOO!
If they did they wouldn't be INDICTING people, stepping up the inspectors and scrutinizing the search warrants and MICROMANAGING US like this!
When they wanted GUNS and blocks cleared THEY would let us go and not ask questions!
Smarten up coppers THEY ARE NOW QUESTIONING EVERYTHING!
Do what you have to do, do it smart, do it for yourself and GOOD LUCK!
I just love the way alvarez and the big guy are pointing out they are going to go after corrupt cops.
That message will evolve as we get closer to the election Im sure.
I do know that I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THEM. 1871 has my vote
Anonymous said...
GOD BLESS JON BURGE!
1/29/2008 10:22:00 AM
Why?
Every candidate for CCSA is going to pander to the electorate...a group that ranges from distrusting to outright hating the police. The flavor of the day, ever since the King case, is to hate the police and second guess every action they take. So given they are all going to be anti-police, at least Peraica hates the machine - and I don't care why - even more than he does us.
The point about not giving business to the States Attorney's Office is a great point. Look at Cincinatti. De-policing sent a huge message. It really, honestly boils down to this. If society and the politicians they elect to represent them refuse to try to understand what we do, refuse to provide us the tools (not equipment but rather support and backing) we need to do the job they won't do, and callously throw us to the sharks whenever politically expedient instead of defending us as they should, then we morally are right in saying enough is enough, I give up, and doing the absolute minimum to collect a check. The guy on the sidewalk with his shit in his jacket...didn't see it. The ballers on the corner slinging blows...drive right by. Somebody gets themselves shot...hey, you obviously don't want me doing aggressive proactive work to stop such things or you would support what I do. So fuck 'em, let all these jag offs see just how life would change without the few coppers on the street that keep things honest. Review this, you fucking 2 years out of law school full of yourself political little trolls.
Anonymous said...
Anthony PERAICA for STATES ATTORNEY. No Democ-RAT Candidates are worth ANYTHING, a bunch of pandering liberal lap-dogs of the Crook-County Establishment.
1/29/2008 07:17:00 PM
Vote for a dumbocrat it is your fault watch Joh MCcain take the Presidency! hill and osama obama are finished! Wanna play next time?
Can someone please answer what is with all this Burge love?
Anonymous said...
I just love the way alvarez and the big guy are pointing out they are going to go after corrupt cops.
That message will evolve as we get closer to the election Im sure.
I do know that I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THEM. 1871 has my vote
1/29/2008 09:55:00 PM
alvarez which gang punk is she related to? to bad so sad the Republican Tony wins! Now anita a go back under that rock and raise your kids thanks!
Anonymous said...
Tom Allen is a friend to the police and a tremendous guy!
1/29/2008 12:01:00 AM
Dam your quick you already got that state's attorney investigator job sewed up!
Can COps and CPT appear in Allen's TV Spot isnt that a violation of our rules???? We cant back anyone politically in uniform.I wonder if they were all off the clock for that too? Hello Media and New SUPT please look into this!!!!
The Burge "love" is the respect for the martyr for real policework. He is the personification of the Jessup character.
States Attorney Candidate Larry U.R. Suffering-cuz-I'm-dumb says-----
It's all Y'all conservative peoples fault.
I don't know if the cops in the Allen commercial were off the clock or not, but how about the candidates themselves? I read that Alvarez took a leave, but are the rest of these guys politicking, campaigning, and shooting commercials on county and city time? Wouldn't surprise me.
To 1/29/08 at 9:55 pm; what planet are you from? Ms. Alvarez (even though she is NOT getting my vote) is the real deal; hardworking lady, career prosecutor, married to an MD. You are a moron.
To the poster of:
"Hey all you ASAs, remember don't bite the hand that feeds you. Without the police you are nothing, and you have nothing. Give it time and you will see what I speak of. Less bad guys getting locked up = less cases to prosecute = less ASAs needed."
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You are the lowest form of life with this attitude.You scumbag piece of shit. You are not a cop you are a pussy and a fucking coward
"Hey all you ASAs, remember don't bite the hand that feeds you. Without the police you are nothing, and you have nothing. Give it time and you will see what I speak of. Less bad guys getting locked up = less cases to prosecute = less ASAs needed."
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You are the lowest form of life with this attitude.You scumbag piece of shit. You are not a cop you are a pussy and a fucking coward
Hey Asswipe,you must be an ASA: You couldn't hold my jockstrap!GFY!
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