LA Mayhem
Anyone think CPD could handle this any better?
- A drive-by attack followed by a wild shootout between gang members and police shut down dozens of blocks of Northeast Los Angeles for nearly six hours Thursday afternoon, stranding thousands of residents, keeping students locked in their classrooms and leaving two people dead.
- The violence began around noon when a 37-year-old man police described as a bystander was shot more than a dozen times by suspected gang members as he held the hand of a 2-year-old girl. He later died. The toddler, apparently picked up by a passerby and carried to safety, was not wounded. As the gunmen drove off, witnesses told police, several pedestrians who apparently knew the victim opened fire on the car.
- Minutes later, police attempted to stop suspects driving in a white Nissan sedan about 10 blocks away. Three men jumped out of the car, and at least two of them fired weapons at officers.
A man wielding an AK-47 rifle was killed by police as they returned fire, authorities said.
But hey, we don't need long guns anywhere but 10 minutes away and we certainly don't need to qualify but once a year in a 30-round course.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
122 Comments:
Don't worry. That will never happen here. When it does though, the public will be OUTRAGED watching the funeral. Those poor little children, clutching the hands of their mother as she tries to put on a brave front (think Jackie Kennedy) and shakily, clumsily climbs the steps of St. or First or Holy (you know what I mean) Oceans of Blue with Da Mare standing next to the widow supporting her elbow, patting little Joeys head with a grimace on his face(for the cameras)As if to say I'm gonna me some bad guys. next day-Press Conference-"We will give YOU what you want! We will NOT LEAVE OUR CITIZENS UNPROTECTED!!!" not until people die, and by people, I mean cops that make for a very nice media event, will CPD ever be properly armed. Five innocent women were assassanated not 10 miles from the city limits, yet you don't find any new weaponry right? Not even a shotgun. We'll see.
Speaking of which: I got an email from the NRA today how daley wants to push his antigun agenda on the whole state(no clips over 10rds, serial#ed ammo etc).
God help us if daley takes the white house; he should be worrying
about what we'll do if he pushes us too far!
They'll keep pushing till they understand that some of us are willing to get bloody........
Take it easy Francis (Gun NUT)
Im sure the banger w/the AK was just crapping in his pants that he was violating CA state law when he grabbed that gun before the shooting!
daley dont want us to have long guns, he wants us to have bigger ticket books.
This is why we need heavy weapons and people to be properly trained with them on each watch in every district. It is only a matter of time before something like this incident in L.A. happens here.
Lucky the police were ok! CPD? Yea ok! The swat team have pagers to be notified if something happens and have to get to homan square in their personal cars and then go out! To late boys and girls, are there still sort cars up and running around on all watches?
When are we going to admit that we need to come of age.
OT (sort of): What was with the bonafide shots fired into a house in the homeland (016) after midnight today? Anyone know?
6th DISTRICT IS BURNING UP!!!! PLEASE BRING MORE TRU OFFICERS. THEY CAN HELP WITH CANNABIS SEEDS FOUND UNDER CAR SEATS.
Remember it's cheaper on the city if your killed in the line of duty instead of properly maintain and train! How long would it take for S.W.A.T. to arrived on scene? Why can't we have the proper fire power at our disposal?
Everything starts in California and makes it way east!
Supt Weis,
1)Let PO's use Area Ranges at their convenience. Right now you have to argue with some clout hack to practice and you are most likely not going to be able to. Each range, one PO, 3 watches. Simple.
2)Make PO's qualify two or three times a year. We, as a whole, have shitty marksmanship.
3) Enough of the stationary target shit. How about moving targets, simunitions, etc? Time for CPD to get out of the Stoneage.
4) Let PO's who want to buy and qualify with long guns on their own time and dime do so. It won't cost the city a penny and it will make all of the citizens safer. Think the Olympics alone.
we need more gun laws
I hope the Olympic Committee reads this site and this Shitty loses its bid!!!!!!!!
SCC STOP FUCKING WHINING,
RE:
Anonymous said...
Roe Conn is on the air crying that Superintendent Jody Weis will not be interviewed on his clown radio talk show.
Roe Conn was even laughing that Fat Phil's interview may have been a contributing factor in Fat Phil being fired. I believe this was in reference to Cline stating that he wished he could beat Tony Abbate with a baseball bat to teach him a lesson.
The moral of the story is that Superintendent Jody Weis is intelligent and savy. J-Fed is not seeking spurious fame or celebrity.
Superintendent Weis is a consumate professional leader striving to make the Chicago Police Department the best PD in the nation.
2/22/2008 05:06:00 PM
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Just the wording and the words used in the blue highlighted portion of this post proves it wasn't written by a Chicago Cop but more likely by a former FBI agent turned police supt.
Quit patting yourself on the ass Jody! We know it is you posting!
MINNEAPOLIS — A woman who authorities say is in the country illegally and using an alias was charged Friday with four counts of criminal vehicular homicide and two lesser charges in a school bus crash that killed four children.
A woman who identified herself as Alianiss Nunez Morales, 23, of Minneota, was driving a van that failed to stop at a stop sign Tuesday before hitting a bus carrying 28 students from Lakeview School, Lyon County Attorney Richard Maes said. The accident happened near the small town of Cottonwood, in southwestern Minnesota.
Morales was also charged with a stop sign violation and for driving without a valid license, Maes said.
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LA gangs or this woman who killed 4 school kids... Illegals are ruining this country! PERIOD!
How about getting us an outdoor range?
I just leave my gun in my locker, I don't see the point for them. I figure my asp and oc spray is plenty good. Plus if I need a taser there is a srgt. only 15min away. Am I breaking a G.O.?
SCC, Do you really think that most of the morons on this job can be trusted in an urban area with a gun that has the ability to shoot through and through a car or multiple walls? You are alright, except for your Tackleberry-like tendencies.
In many of the Suburban Agencies EVERY patrol car is equipped with a rifle or shotgun,sometimes both.
Amazing how the big city is so far behind the times.Im sure CPD still has M1 carbines,BARs,Thompsons,S&W76s left over hidden from the real policing era.
I like my LMT M4.
People, no need for panic. It could not happen here, Chicloutgo has laws banning guns.
Now go about your business, and leave everything to us.
Best regards,
Chicloutgo city council.
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how about them trying to reopen the ardelean case!
Anonymous said...
we need more gun laws
2/23/2008 05:20:00 AM
Wrong....we need more guns!
An armed society...is a polite society.
Anonymous said...
we need more gun laws
2/23/2008 05:20:00 AM
You need a high colonic.
They wouldnt have that type of behavior if LAPD conducted seatbelt missions.
can't happen here balless sgt would terminate the pursuit immidiately
This would never happen here...we are a "Sanctuary" city. We only get nice people coming to our city. The others that have been born and raised here and benefitted from all the "programs and services" are not allowed to buy guns here. I don't know if you know this but it is illegal to buy guns here. And with all the free counseling given by the Revs and spiritual advisors that abound here in our fair city....this could never happen here. The people who get shot here are shot by people who come from places that have no gun control.
We need to ban all guns now!!!!
When the guns are banned the worlds problems will be over. The gang bangers will not have them and good citizens can go outside and kids can play in the park. The third world countries and the middle east will follow are example and lay down there guns.
Yeah right, just the opposite will happen.
We need more gun laws.
My former partner is on SWAT and pushes a sort car around. He regularly tells me that it would be better if more P.O.'s could be allowed to carry their own AR's. The city of course would never allow it, and if they did, would require officers to purchase their own and pass outside courses, at their expense$$$$. That'll never happen as AR ownership by L.E. is forbidden in this Shity! And whats more, the SORT cars carrying SWAT officers and their AR's barely run!
After seing the ealier post about SWAT getting notified on pagers, yesterday he tells me they have new Nextel phones available to them but they are all locked up in Cmmd. Green's office and he won't release them ! What kinda JAG**f would prevent his SWAT team from a medium for communication and quick notification. It's a criminal act that he would have to answer to, should a major incident occur and SWAT can't get rolling quickly !
If Obama gets the White house expect Daley to pull his anti-gun strings !
In two years, CPD will have firearms at the station to be signed in and out like radios. Officers will be fired if they are found to have firearms in their home or on their person while they are off duty.
In five years, CPD officers will not sign out firearms, but instead will be issued the new Soft Tazer, which only gives the threat of an electrical shock. If faced with an offender holding a firearm, CPD officers will be ordered to retreat.
In eight years, all CPD officers will be dressed as such:
http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=CSK/CSK003/ks76480.jpg
Gots to love how the gangbangers returing fire on the initial shooters were referred to in the article as pedestirans...gots to love L.A.
Good thing SOS was disbanded! And they are not out there getting shitbrid guns off the street.....
Neighbors said one home in the area had been a subject of frequent police activity.
On Wednesday night, one neighbor said police officers were at the house.
The 35-year old man, who lives in the apartment building next door and asked not to be identified because of fear of reprisals, said he then heard shots Thursday about noon
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NO SNITCHING MVHTERFVCKER!!!!
FLASH - J-FED SEES HIS FIRST CHICAGO MAYHEM. THE 6TH DISTRICT HAD THE HONOR AND PRIVLEDGE OF HIS PRESENCE AT A CRIME SCENE. WHILE ENROUTE TO 6TH DISTRICT 1ST WATCH ROLL CALL, HE SHOWED UP AT A HOMICIDE AT 82ND & MARYLAND. HE HUNG AROUND FOR AWHILE THEN WENT TO THE 4TH DISTRICT ROLL CALL. HOPE HE TOOK SOME NOTES ABOUT WHAT WE CAN USE A CRIME SCENE.
"When youre pushed too far......... killin's jus like breathin....."
-John Rambo
Nothing will happen here with the doc missions and event numbers!
We are totally safe tx to such tools as them.
Actually, if you're asking our opinion I think LA seems to be better at handle more 'outrageous' situations if you will. With that said however, I think we'd be more than capable of handling a situation such as this. However, it looked like the SWAT team (from the video in the above link) was going into houses and such looking for the suspects. I think CPD would be too afraid of "violating" rights in looking for the suspects.
LAPD is a real department. Their training from what i hear is second to none. I know they have their problems, but advanced training is not one of them. CPD will never have a shot at improving training or modeling anything close to the LAPD because the 5th floor doesnt want to spend the money.
Once again the "Long Gun" argument.....You have Sergeants who will not carry Tasers!! and you want "Long Guns"?....017th Dist officers get on your Sergeants asses and MAKE them carry the Taser as required per GO..then talk about "Long Guns"..as far as qualifications go...I think we should be qualifying 2 times per year...
God help us if that happens here. Say what you want about LA but they are one of the most highly trained Departments in the country. If they have a problem handling a situation like that it would be total mayhem here. We train once a year at a bogus range qualification that isnt even graded.
If you need heavy weapons just call Car #2, Alderman Burke. While officers on the street have none, Oily Eddie has them in his trunk. Go figure.
LAPD is a far more advanced police department than CPD. Better trainng, better equipment, and better officers. Sure they probably have some riff raff that get on the department, but nothing like the crap we have working here. No way could CPD organize such a precise perimeter, and properly secure a crime scene like LAPD did in this incident. Our department is a joke people. Until the mob, I mean democratic machine, stops running this city, and we get qualified high ranking supervisors (and we hired QUALIFIED police officer in the first place) we will always be the laughing stock of the nation.
BIG DADDY SAYS
I am somwhere in the world, let us leave that at that, i was with my wife last night, we were accosted by two drunken assbags, I am retired, I am not in the best of health, I am HR 218. I pressed my my against a wall and I stared at them..........thank you Jesus my saviour, and also thier saviour, for making them pass by, thereby leaving two peaceable lovers to thier own selves, and thanks for HR218 too!
long guns in beat cars-- half the people on the watch can't even handle a handgun. the thought of an mp5 or shotgun in some of my fellow officers hands is scary. several months ago the intelligence unit took out some thugs on kedzie avenue who were loaded for bear going to do a hit. if a beat car would have stopped these guys by accident we would have been going to some funerals. long guns would be good but only after an extensive training in which you can prove you can handle the weapons.
Sad to say it will take a PO to get killed or shot for this reactive not proactive dept. to arm us better,we are so far behind its a joke-in Brust we trust?We will see if he has balls or just a Todd Stroger type hire.
way off topic,but I've heard 2 stories about Weis at 35th,each time a PO said good morning or hello to him and one was in an elevator,he did not respond,stone face caveman look,anybody hearing anything?If its true,its alot of nerve you fucking outsider.
Five innocent women were assassanated not 10 miles from the city limits, yet you don't find any new weaponry right? Not even a shotgun.
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don't forget 2 po's shot with a automatic weapon with a banana clip full o'rounds and 17 students shot 5 killed with a high powered rifle...I am no were near a gun nut but I am a huge fan of common sense, something that has disappeared as of late. Change
hahaha you need a different train
of thought if you want change.
35,000. POds will take care of the problem
OT:
My money says that by this time next week both Commander V. (tru) and ADS Ralph will both be looking for a job. Talk is DS Mike isnt impressed with either of them.
He's lookin at either Dugan or franklin for ADS. Not sure about commander.
12:06am on 22Feb.-
Why did you call him a gun nut? Do you always call someone who has a passion for something a "nut"? I like to watch baseball, football and basketball. Does that make me a sports nut? Why do you make a disparaging remark about someone simply because he believes in the Constitution and does not believe in the City's taking away one of the most basic of human rights, the ability to defend ones self from attack? Shame on you!
Dont worry, you dont need long guns. Just stretch out that 1 miute shootout into 1 hr and SWAT will then be on scene.
WHO CARES ABOUT LA. HERE IN THE 022ND DIST WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE MORE BURGLARIES TO GARAGES IN THE NORTH BEVERLY AREA. LETS GO YOU FUCK-NG 22 RANGERS. FROM 88TH TO 92ND PLEASANT-HOYNE HRS 1600-0200. WTF DO I NEED TO MAKE A CITIZENS ARREST FOR YOU. THIS CANT BE THAT HARD TO DO ,YOUR NOT DOING BRAIN SURGERY
"3) Enough of the stationary target shit. How about moving targets, simunitions, etc?"
We had that system a few years back& the trailer @ the Academy. City AS ALWAYS didn't want to pay for it so POOF! Good bye.
I always enjoy the blubbering & the crocodile tears from that deranged psychopath runt @ line of duty funerals.
Thankfully Mrs.Strouse wasn't gullible enough to buy the snowjob, sadly can't say the same for others who were unfortunatley in her shoes.
"4) Let PO's who want to buy and qualify with long guns on their own time and dime do so. It won't cost the city a penny and it will make all of the citizens safer."
Are you really that much in need?
That's fine & when you get sued for killing some guy& are 30 pending hit up the long gun company to bail out you moronic ass.
What a soft as puppy dung Goof!!
6th DISTRICT IS BURNING UP!!!! PLEASE BRING MORE TRU OFFICERS. THEY CAN HELP WITH CANNABIS SEEDS FOUND UNDER CAR SEATS
Are you kidding me? look to your own tac teams and their "loose cigarette" arrests in front of liquor stores. You have no buiness talking about anyone else.
Hey, long gun hero, you must be a rookie,or very close to it. We used to carry shot guns in the cars until we were getting them stolen out of squad cars responding to the jobs in the projects, you wouldn't remember that. How would you secure this long gun office,when you are away from your squad car? Perhaps, have a strap attached to it and carry it in to a hospital to do paper on a DOA? The family of the DOA would welcome you with open arms,I'm sure of it. The ranges conduct semi-annual weapons qualifications by a matrix,primary weapons, auxiliary weapons, shot gun. taser, asp and they go to multiple training classes per year. No I am not a range instructor but I know you were raised in the burbs PPO.... They should drop everything when you feel like shooting a few hundred rounds...LOL
OFF TOPIC I took the FTO test today and just wanted to mention 2 things. 1- it was graded on site by a scantron machine. I understand only about 250 people took it but why is it that all of the other promotional exams cannot be graded in same fashion? I undersatnd the machine at the academy is from 1970 and only does like 5 tests per 15 min but most of these schools where we take the dick and sgt tests have REAL machines. Im sure we could find a way to have this done, and 95-100% of coppers would be willing to wait the extra hr or so to actually have their tests go through a machine in front of them and see their REAL score. I think MANY more would beieve in the system if they actually knew their score before leaving the test site. Does anyone else find it odd that we usually wait more than 6 months for scantron tests to be scored? So for that i give the people running the FTO test credit. As for the machine at the academy, that thing needs to be updated ASAP! 2nd - I sat near an individual that has 6 yrs on the job and spent a total of 12 months on the street(obviously the required time as PPO). This person was talking about how he/she USED to teach at the academy but for the past 2-3 yrs has been assigned to an ADS office at 35th. First how in the hell can someone with 2-3 yrs be teaching ANYTHING at the academy and why is this person allowed to take an FTO test? He/She has 1 yr experience ON THE STREET and 5 yrs kissing ass. What the fuck? Do we want this teaching new officers? Oh and then of course I noticed the name of a SGT and PO also assigned to the academy who I am familiar with. I would say between the 2 of them they have a total of 9 yrs experience. I believe the sgt has 5-6 yrs total on the job (and a good guy actually, to be honest) and the PO(cocky ass) has about 4 maybe. Im sure these arent the only 2 at the academy with very little time, just the ones I am familiar with. Again how and why are these people assigned to the academy? What are they going to tell the recruits about? The war stories they have from kissing ass and NEVER being the police? How they worked on the south side or west side and did sooo much police work? Its time to take a look at the entire department and when wondering why so many are fucking up look at the clout babies being put in cushy spots and how THEY are responsible for training the new guys and girls. VERY VERY SCARY!
Maher put her papers in.
How many of the offenders were illegal aliens????
word is J-fed was headed to 006 last night for 1st watch roll call. However, he got diverted to a homicide in 006 instead. See, boss we've been telling you to come to a working district. Unfortunately, tru was in 006 due to the Level II doc so he may have gotten the wrong impression about man power on the scene.
Anyone think CPD could handle this any better?
Umm... no
off topic. Thanks to the person who threw the party at the new condos near 111th and Kedzie. YOu fufilled my dream of coming out of my house at midnight and seeing groups of gangbangers roaming the streets screaming.
Maan, Im so glad I have a 9mm! And the revvvs that will back us up! Know what? This would be nothing more than a case report in Shitcago. We are DONE risking ourselves for nothing.... take the report, turn it over to the dets, and let the citizens think that CSI will have a dna sample and a conviction in 20 minutes... This dept is a freaking joke.
We had several officers from our district take the FTO test. Most are woefully incompetent and the type of officer no one will ride with. No real experience, no real knowledge or instinct, just in it for the (little) money. Will do anything for $7,000, I guess.
I hope they get it too. As FTOs they will have to bid off my watch and out of my district. Good. Good luck guys and gals! I'm behind you . Get R Done!
LISTEN !
1. CPD is not getting/needs anything more than swat/sort period.
2. Prepare yourselves,family and ego for what you (fop) are about to give up in the next contract.
3. The first hot humid summer night and a young patrolman,trying to do his job,saves a citizen's life or his own but the incident erupts.
No more McNultys,Chasens....etc.
Name your leader...
Just you and Loevy.
4. Ladies & Gentlemen, a good number but not all of you have been snookered. What the city,fop have done to you in the past 6 years will now become apparent. In light of the federal takeover, and focus (fed) on the olympics, you are about to become a participant in a project. You will no longer be a member of a profession as you knew it. It can't be stopped. Watch
Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC I took the FTO test today and just wanted to mention 2 things. 1- it was graded on site by a scantron machine......
I also took the test today, and was impressed by the fact that we got our results back on the spot. Maybe the Lt over there can teach these other testing facilities a thing or two. In regards to the Sgts present for the test, I know them all. One has over 20 yrs on the job, the other three have 19, 15 and 14 yrs respectively. If you are going to rant about peoples time and credibility, get your numbers right first! Good luck to all who took the test today.
Anonymous said...
long guns in beat cars-- half the people on the watch can't even handle a handgun. the thought of an mp5 or shotgun in some of my fellow officers hands is scary. several months ago the intelligence unit took out some thugs on kedzie avenue who were loaded for bear going to do a hit. if a beat car would have stopped these guys by accident we would have been going to some funerals. long guns would be good but only after an extensive training in which you can prove you can handle the weapons.
2/23/2008 01:11:00 PM
Officers who cannot handle weapons and learn should be fired...period.If your not a professional but a Irish welfare recipient you shouldnt be on the job.
OFF TOPIC:
New Orleans PD needs your help!
Check out this website:
copshelpcops.com
They are trying to rebuild NOPD homes. No officer should live in disarray while having to put their life on the line!
off topic. Thanks to the person who threw the party at the new condos near 111th and Kedzie. YOu fufilled my dream of coming out of my house at midnight and seeing groups of gangbangers roaming the streets screaming.
2/23/2008 05:57:00 PM
Thats because SXU uses them as housing for students.
6th Dist is burning up?
Why not send for Obama. He will bring hope and change and a new direction. Next case.
Not to worry. Boss Daley has declared Chicago a gun free city.
Except for his 22 body guards, of course.
Poor Daley. Even a lunkhead like him must realize that most of his body guards hate his arrogant guts like the rest of the CPD>
Someone in an earlier comment stated J-Fed was going to turn us into the best PD in the country.
Yeah my ass I will make sure to pull up to a State, or Surburban copper in my nice 1998 unmarked Ford Crown Victoria, with 160,000 miles, and it's one strobe light in the turn signal that still works as emergency equipment, and the 90's model Microslate Pdt. Then i will "wow look we are the best don't you want top notch equipment like this"?
Then they will laugh and show me their 2008 Dodge Charger, Chevy Tahoe, Crown Vic, or Chevy Impala, with emergency lights and a working siren, a computer that not only is from the last decade but can run a plate faster than CPD's usual 5-8 minutes. Then they will pop the trunk and show me the M-4 Carbine and Binelli Shotgun. Then they will like they do now "you guys are a joke"
that is all
What moves are next? Word is cmdr of 016 was seen cleaning out his office this week, on the way up. Who is next in God's country? Capt. Anderson is that you? Capt. Robarts is it possible to micromanage a district the size of 016? Stay tuned its going to get interesting. Ralf, where are you going?
WHY HAS AOL TAKEN TO SHOWING DEAD AND INJURED POLICE OFFICERS LYING IN THE STREET! FOP? ANYONE??
To: 3:14
I suggest you transfer into 022 and take care of the burglary problem tough guy. But no you would have to bid out of your bullshit unit with your take home car. 1 bag enforcement guy super Narc. NOT!!! I love it when P.O.'s bitch about shit in there own hood and then work elsewhere.
Put a tourniquet on these gold braided worthless political hacks that are bleeding our pension fund out of millions.
Start with Maher. That impostor should retire with not a penny more than sgt. scale.
REPEAL GOLD BRAID PENSIONS!
Any info on the upcoming Sgt class??? How many, and when??
TO:2/23/2008 03:14:00 PM
Who cares about north beverly.If you live wih animals what do you expect?Call the police instead of waving at these guys like they are your neighbors.Or move you liberal puss.The only person that cares about your hood is ginger.
I just ignore the Gun Nut stuff against SCC anymore, but especially now. What with all these Gun Nut US Troops we have defending our constitution over in Iraq, voluntarily, I'm just glad SCC's got their backs. Hey and while I'm here, knock off the immigrant shit. Every day when I open my front door the first thing I see is the authentic sign saying "No Irish Need Apply" which my great great grand MOTHER reached into a store window and took and when the man tried to stop her she knocked him on his ass. It was called the N.I.N.A. Act passed by Congess you asshats. all of our ancsestors have been tormented. Lets not forget.
Could someone please tell me what these people plan on doing with these "LONG GUNS"??
Yeah my ass I will make sure to pull up to a State, or Surburban copper in my nice 1998 unmarked Ford Crown Victoria, with 160,000 miles, and it's ....Then they will laugh and show me their 2008 Dodge Charger, Chevy Tahoe, Crown Vic, or Chevy Impala, with emergency lights and a working siren, a computer that not only is from the last ......
If this is the biggest complaint you have about this department then you are as soft as puppy shit. Appearently the smell of your hair gel is making you want to relive your glory days cruzing in your IROC Z. No wonder this department is screwed.
OFF TOPIC...
Whats with TRU calling an "emergency" on the radio Saturday night because they were "following a car". Best part...when asked "what for?" the answer was "DRUNK DRIVING".
I know some P.O's and SGT's in tru that are good guys. Please if you know who this was hit him with his metal report holder/clipboard take his radio until he has enough time on the job to take a promotional exam and explain what an emergency is.
...Oh and then of course I noticed the name of a SGT and PO also assigned to the academy who I am familiar with. I would say between the 2 of them they have a total of 9 yrs experience. I believe the sgt has 5-6 yrs total on the job (and a good guy actually, to be honest) and the PO(cocky ass) has about 4 maybe. Im sure these arent the only 2 at the academy with very little time....
Um, you need 6 years on just to make Sergeant..EINSTEIN
What amazes me is that most suburbs like Lincolnshire, have AR-15's in their vehicles as well as shotguns. They are locked in the trunk but they are there if a PO should need them. Is the crime rate that bad in these suburbs compared to Chicago? No its that the wuss mayor is spending tax dollars on frivolous law suits and is afraid of the public.
You want safety? Protect yourself and your family, get home safe every night, and screw the rest of em. If need be, God forbid, send a shitbird to hell, better judged by 12 than carried by 6. Many will know you did the right thing.
i just want a PDT, so i can run a plate and know if the car is hot or not before i pull it over. a car that doesn't have the brake or check engine light. a long gun is far down on the list.
WHY HAS AOL TAKEN TO SHOWING DEAD AND INJURED POLICE OFFICERS LYING IN THE STREET! FOP? ANYONE??
2/23/2008 09:34:00 PM
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FOP? Yer joking right? They are too busy watching us get cruified in the local media for the last 2 years and laughing to do anything about AOL.
FOP is a joke. Wake up.
you know how to avoid guns on the street? don't pull anyone over, take the full half-hour to get to your jobs, and don't write any tickets to avoid any confrontations. plus take as much time due as u can.
Henry Bowman said...
Anonymous said...
we need more gun laws
2/23/2008 05:20:00 AM
You need a high colonic.
2/23/2008 08:48:00 AM
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YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDNT GET MY SARCASM
Hey, long gun hero, you must be a rookie,or very close to it. We used to carry shot guns in the cars until we were getting them stolen out of squad cars responding to the jobs in the projects, you wouldn't remember that. How would you secure this long gun office,when you are away from your squad car? Perhaps, have a strap attached to it and carry it in to a hospital to do paper on a DOA? The family of the DOA would welcome you with open arms,I'm sure of it. The ranges conduct semi-annual weapons qualifications by a matrix,primary weapons, auxiliary weapons, shot gun. taser, asp and they go to multiple training classes per year. No I am not a range instructor but I know you were raised in the burbs PPO.... They should drop everything when you feel like shooting a few hundred rounds...LOL
Yes we should have long guns, you lock them into the car like every other municipality.
The only reason they did the FTO test legit is because no one with any kind of clout would want it.
hey 819pm, I said I noticed a sgt name thats assigned to academy, NEVER said he was working the FTO test. So if you want credibility READ the fucking post asshole
Anonymous said...
LAPD is a real department. Their training from what i hear is second to none. I know they have their problems, but advanced training is not one of them. CPD will never have a shot at improving training or modeling anything close to the LAPD because the 5th floor doesnt want to spend the money.
2/23/2008 12:10:00 PM
There are no inservice training at CPD. Every major department has a well organized inservice program except CPD. I attended the in car camera training at academy and was not impressed. Is this the best we can do as a police department? LAPD and many other departments have annual, training for officers on street. CPD has nothing. So sad. And PO's want to carry long guns? Who will train them? Not blaming academy but someone needs to do something.
hey 135 am, I said roughly 5-6 yrs on. Thats my fucking point exactly. If he just nade sgt(which he did recently) why is he assigned to the academy? STOP SUCKING ASS ALL YOU CLOUT BABIES! MANY OF WHOM ARE READING THIS BLOG. And to they guy who said bid to 022 if you want the problems solved, MANY good coppers would if there were ever fucking openings, but all you phone call using fucks have filled 022. Thats why u never have openings
Anonymous said...
you know how to avoid guns on the street? don't pull anyone over, take the full half-hour to get to your jobs, and don't write any tickets to avoid any confrontations. plus take as much time due as u can.
2/24/2008 04:52:00 AM
Success formula for the 21st century officer.DO NOTHING!!
Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC:
New Orleans PD needs your help!
Check out this website:
copshelpcops.com
They are trying to rebuild NOPD homes. No officer should live in disarray while having to put their life on the line!
2/23/2008 08:36:00 PM
You mean the officers that were looting and pilaging on the security footage??I wont give a dime to that rat nest dept.
Good place to get supplies,has real deal LMT stuff.
http://www.m-aparts.com/
YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDNT GET MY SARCASM
2/24/2008 05:13:00 AM
Don't worry everyone but the short bus riders got your sarcasm. LOL . :)
You can keep your m-4's. I'll take the B.A.R or the thompson. That's real firepower.
Some suburban towns have permitted their officers to purchase the AR-15's and carry them as long as they qualify within their department guidelines.
Why can't this city draw up an order like that? At least the officer would be responsible for where his/her weapon is at all times.
At least there are dash-cams in the cars that can catch all the action! Forget about spending money on tasers or anything else to help a PO! Jody was brought up in the TV generation and he wants to sit back and watch the show!
"Daddy Richie, can I stay up late and watch dashcam TV tonight?"
"Quiet, boy! It's after 5 PM and way past your bedtime! Come kiss Daddy on the ass and get off to bed!"
"Whats with TRU calling an "emergency" on the radio Saturday night because they were "following a car". Best part...when asked "what for?" the answer was "DRUNK DRIVING"."
And they got three heads for PSMV out of it, from what I heard. 501 is one of the few things they let CPD chase for anymore. Figure it out genius.
RE: Sgt @ Academy. 6 year Sgt handling in-car camera. (Only detailed)
FTO test: 87 failed out of 225. WOW
Anonymous said...
Henry Bowman said...
Anonymous said...
we need more gun laws
2/23/2008 05:20:00 AM
You need a high colonic.
2/23/2008 08:48:00 AM
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YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDNT GET MY SARCASM
2/24/2008 05:13:00 AM
If that's sarcasm I'd hate to hear you speak. Also check out the "Henry Bowman" tag. Now that's sarcasm.
IN RESPONSE TO THE 022ND DIST "TOUGH GUY" IF YOUR ASSIGNED TO PATROL NORTH BEVERLY OR ANY OTHER AREA, ESPECIALLY DURING THE EVENING AND MIDNITE HOURS, AND YOU HAPPEN ACROOS SOMEONE PUSHING A SNOWBLOWER,LAWNMOWER,BIKES,TOOLBOXES, ETC. DO YOU THINK YOU CAN AT LEAST ASK THEM WHERE THEY GOT THESE ITEMS FROM, ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTH BEVERLY AREA. OH YEAH, TRY TO STAY AWAKE. NITE NITE ZZZZZ
Made in Illinois:
http://www.rockriverarms.com/
In many of the Suburban Agencies EVERY patrol car is equipped with a rifle or shotgun,sometimes both.
Amazing how the big city is so far behind the times.Im sure CPD still has M1 carbines,BARs,Thompsons,S&W76s left over hidden from the real policing era.
I like my LMT M4.
2/23/2008 08:10:00 AM
I would be plenty happy with any of the afore mentioned firearms, after all they are the very arms that helped win WW2.I personally believe the M1 carbine to be the perfect urban firearm.It's basically a 100 yard gun and you would hardly need anything bigger.The M1 carbine is a fine firearm that has the same stopping power as the .357 magnum and with 15 or 30 round magazines you have plenty of firepower.I think you have a good idea there, we should adopt the M1 carbine as our patrol carbine and we can get them pretty cheap from the CMP, thats Civilian Marksmanship Program to all of you NON-GUN NUTS out there.
All in favor of Rosco with an AR-15 say AYE!
".....we can get them pretty cheap from the CMP, thats Civilian Marksmanship Program to all of you NON-GUN NUTS out there.
2/24/2008 10:16:00 PM"
Are there any left, after that jagoff cigar-licking retard had many 'demilitarized' during his fucked up 8 years in office?
"And they got three heads for PSMV out of it,"
How does that work? Only one person can be driving an automobile?
Oh, that's right they were juveniles & when it comes to kids WE ALWAYS CHARGE THEM W/ THE FELONY BECAUSE WE CAN. GREAT JOB, KEEP ON WORKING W/O A CONTRACT,F'NG COMPANY PUKES!!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC:
New Orleans PD needs your help!
Check out this website:
copshelpcops.com
They are trying to rebuild NOPD homes. No officer should live in disarray while having to put their life on the line!
2/23/2008 08:36:00 PM
You mean the officers that were looting and pilaging on the security footage??I wont give a dime to that rat nest dept.
2/24/2008 09:19:00 AM
Why not help? If you returned to your home and it was under water,what would you do for food? You would walk into a store and take everything you need. Don't pretend you're holier than thou,you're probably one of the cheapest coppers on the job.
So your're saying the only protection us Chicago citizens have against a maniac with a Ak-47 is the comfort of knowing the police can PAGE swat team members with weapons of equal size?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Wow.....so 30-60 minutes (and who knows how many deaths & injuries) later we get help?!??!? What a joke. Time to move to the burbs.They at least can carry heavy equipment in cars.Saw a patrol man in the burbs at a gas station last summer fiddlin around in his trunk with a big black case in there. I asked him if it was a shotgun and he smiled back & said "no....something a whole lot better". As creepy as it was to hear him say that, at least they're ensured a quick response in case some idiot with a automatic rifle decides that he wants to test it out on civilians that day. I even remember Skokie police carrying Shotguns in dash brackets a few years back.They were in a lot of cars.
CPD sees all the action and they don't have the weaponry at hand the suburbs have....Something seams a backwards here.
To the TRU suckass (or the blogger hanging ou TRU's Nuts) that claims they got 3 heads for PSMV out of the car they chased for "Dui"...NO, YOU DIDN'T GET 3 HEADS FOR PSMV, you fuckin' 2-year wonder - not even if all three occupants were juveniles (the days of psmv for all juvy occupants are LONG gone). There you go telling on yourself (AGAIN) as to your worthlessness on this job. I can't wait until your "following for a dui, squad" or other ill-conceived statements over the air (and retrievable by slick attorneys) wind up getting you 30-pending or worse. 90% of TRU is worthless coppers whose only glory and "good police work" is due to stumbling upon it in busy districts. And this "good police work" won't mean a fuckin' thing becuase you're too dumb and not the real police to be able to cover your ass on the radio or paper. But if it makes you feel better young hair gel, I'll more than likely buy a ticket to your "10-1" benefit when you get jammed up - I'm caring like that! Enjoy your dwindling days in the "elite" unit you call home, cuz TRU's headed to the slaughterhouse.
I would be plenty happy with any of the afore mentioned firearms, after all they are the very arms that helped win WW2.I personally believe the M1 carbine to be the perfect urban firearm.It's basically a 100 yard gun and you would hardly need anything bigger.The M1 carbine is a fine firearm that has the same stopping power as the .357 magnum and with 15 or 30 round magazines you have plenty of firepower.I think you have a good idea there, we should adopt the M1 carbine as our patrol carbine and we can get them pretty cheap from the CMP, thats Civilian Marksmanship Program to all of you NON-GUN NUTS out there.
2/24/2008 10:16:00 PM
Roger that!!
Anonymous said...
Some suburban towns have permitted their officers to purchase the AR-15's and carry them as long as they qualify within their department guidelines.
Why can't this city draw up an order like that? At least the officer would be responsible for where his/her weapon is at all times.
2/24/2008 01:42:00 PM
Lets see here.CPD makes us purchase our own duty pistols and other equipment.Why cant they have a GO that covers AR15s or other approved long guns.I'll gladly buy my own AR or M1A and maintain it like i do my sidearm.
Why not help? If you returned to your home and it was under water,what would you do for food? You would walk into a store and take everything you need. Don't pretend you're holier than thou,you're probably one of the cheapest coppers on the job.
2/25/2008 08:43:00 AM
No,im not cheap,I carry a SIG not a Ruger.My house is stocked with canned goods and MREs,im prepared.Im not holy,dont even go to church,but i call a spade a spade.
Jody....When the fuck are we getting rifles!!!????
Interesting post! The #1 weapon sought after and used when the KING
riots turned into full-fledged arson, looting and murder was the M-1 carbine. Alot of those Coppers fought in WW2 & Korea and many had one in their house. The old TaskForce guy I talked told me the hard thing to find, once they got the "shoot to kill" permit was the 30rd clips........
The M-1 carbine for urban use makes a lot more sense than does the AR-15. Less overpenetration and harder hit at realistic urban distances.
Perhaps a better idea would be a 9mm rifle like the Marlin that uses pistol magazines.
Thoughts?.......
...The M1 carbine is a fine firearm that has the same stopping power as the .357 magnum and with 15 or 30 round magazines you have plenty of firepower.I think you have a good idea there, we should adopt the M1 carbine as our patrol carbine and we can get them pretty cheap from the CMP, thats Civilian Marksmanship Program to all of you NON-GUN NUTS out there.
2/24/2008 10:16:00 PM
Around 600 bucks for a decent one.
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