Debunking Rumors
Tons of rumors floating around. We figured by not addressing them, people would figure out that they were BS.
- Roadside DUI checkpoints targeting cops- It's bullshit people. The schedule for the checkpoints is published a month or more ahead of schedule. If they happen to chose a neighborhood known for so called "cop bars," then we should all make plans to stay home that night or take a cab.
They aren't fucking around with drinking and driving anymore and haven't been for a few years now, but people keep missing the message. If you are caught, you will lose two paychecks minimum. If you crash, you will probably lose more. If you kill someone, you will go to jail for 10 years at least (based on the most recent two or three incidents).
Another rumor has the most recent promotional lists coming down. Certain people saw J-Fed on "Chicago Tonight" and interpreted some of his comments as perhaps there was a chance of the lists coming down. We don't have a transcript of the show, so we can't make a judgment on any of it, but we will say this - tests cost money. $4 million or so per test. The City might fight tooth and nail for these lists to exist for a bit yet. That being said, a few points:
- The Lieutenants Test was probably the most crookedly run test we've ever seen. Mark Brown from the Sun Times had the questions published in his columns weeks before the "re-test" took place. How can that test a supervisor's ability to "think on their feet" when they already know the questions?
- Can someone (J-Fed) actually publish the criteria for "meri-clout-orious" promotions so that the rest of us shmucks actually have something to shoot for? Is there a certain number of arrests, part ones, search warrants, DUI's, curfews, ANOV's, parkers that we can do to have an actual shot at promotion? Or is it only by blood, birthright, and trading for sex and/or money that you get ahead?
- Can one of J-Fed's accounting buddies look into the statistical anomalies that somehow result in people who work for so called "subject matter experts" always scoring the top slots in exams? The number one, two and most of the top twenty-five spots always seem to come from some Deputy Superintendents office at HQ. We took a statistics course once and it's leads to some interesting questions.
You want to know why there are so many leadership problems with this Department? Look no further that the testing process. We aren't getting leaders. Not at all.
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
193 Comments:
The Lt test was an opinion it wasn't based on fact. One of the choices was to inform the roll call about a murderer but the answer was read the DIBS, DOC and daily bulletin. Biggane was number 1 after scoring terribly the first time she took the LT test I guess being a secretary for the Sup doesn't hurt.
What ever they do to fix the promotion process hopefully they will do it soon because we need competent supervisors in the district...PLEASE!!!
Saw the interview J Fed said he wants to take a look at the political promotions meaning merit. At one of the roll calls he said he is revising the way merit picks are done. The list is not coming down and even if it did there would not be a new one for almost two years. So does that mean no promotions for two years? Dont think so.
Looks like the FOP is 100% in bed with the City of Chicago. I don't believe they ever consulted with their members.
His name is Mike Birmingham. I don't know that he put him in his place by any means but he definitely did ask him the tough questions, which I think were answered for the most part. You will never make everyone happy. Sorry guys there will be no 10 or 12 hr. days, 6 and 3 looks like the most feasible alternative.
2/20/2008 02:25:00 PM
If this is true I am voting the current FOP slate out. I am voting against anyone being challenged for office and abstaining on any offiers that are not being challenged.
FUCK THE FOP,they don't want to listen to the members,BYE-BYE!!!
Kennedy and Gerogas are two of the most stand-up guys on this department. Anybody that disagrees is either jealous or does not know them. Most people that complain about bosses on this job have a problem with authority and would never make it in the private sector. I have worked for both of them and would work for them any day if I had the chance.
2/20/2008 12:30:00 PM
Go back to TRU you fucking tool. Gerogas is an arrogant asshole. Our only hope is Richie's heart explodes and Steve and his sister Mara Gerogas get replaced with with some people with class who actually were raised to treat other people with respect regardless of the fact they might be their subordinates.
Gerogas is the problem with the promotion process, merit sgt, merit lt, merit commander.
If you kill someone, you will go to jail for 10 years at least (based on the most recent two or three incidents).
ummm ardelean drunk, (DUI matrix given his admistrative BAC) crashed, AND killed 2 (losers) people. Yet, not in prison, not 2 checks, hell, not even one red cent! what recent events are you talking about SCC???
Does anyone know when they are going to make another Detectives class??? Any input??
And weren't merit nominations due for Sgts a while ago. I thought they were suppose to start by now????
Ive recovered from being called
"butt burglar, etc" on other posts and would like to rant again..
Anyway, Im sitting home watching the CAINE MUTINY(chugging hennesy) on the Turner channel 2nite. Remember, if jfed
pulls a "yellow stain"(cowardice) and he comes to "us" for comfort or whatever, lets give him what he needs. We dont need a QUEEG, or worse a CPT Bligh or a stuttering prick on our hands(hiccup).......
During the last Breath Tech training class there were evidence technicians and personnel from IAD becoming certified. That leaves me to think that IAD will be running the test on cops.
lets face it they should do away with all merit promotions, or make all promotions merit. its unfair to those close on the list to promote an inferior candidate. why because he wrote more parkers and movers (city tax collector )maybe they should promote traffic aids or stop light cameras. this dept is becoming more like suburbs everyday. some people may like that, i for one dont.we used to be the cops from 68 convention, when wto came to town a few years back our reputation alone kept things quite.(not some boss's great planning)dont get me wrong guys i know those days are over for good or bad.we are now just like the traffic cameras, robots. soon i believe like naperville we will be writing each other tickets, as our discression will be more and more taken away. the more rules they put in the less we have to think. alot of people like that. welcome to the nanny state and we are more and more becoming its tools.
I lead troops in combat and yet this Daley and ALd.Balcer say they support vets but wont bring back veterans points for promotion test. This job and city are a joke!!
Semper FI!!
Just pay me more for having my college degree like they do on almost every department in tyhe country. $$$ would make me happy not a bs promotion. BTW-didnt some ADS omly have a GED? or was that Leroy Martin?
We have no leaders we have the CLOUT heavy like in the old Soviet Union!! Thats why we have shit bosses. Most of these bosses only have friends and no (ZERO)qualifications. Remember Boys and Girls Daley doesnt want talent! That would be a threat to his political future. So I look at these Lts and captains and just laugh but it hurts that they get paid more and take care of their kids that are on the job.
Why do I do this job? What is the reward? I dont even think that there will be a pension. Why???
Regarding the Sgt. test. Was there a supposed scandal like the LT test?
Other than the usual slip of the lip questions by "experts", anything?
I do believe there are leaks that give some P.O.'s an edge, but we all have the same material. How can that be rigged.
Hope they keep it up unil about 115 or so. Then, who cares.
Any Sgt who did not retake the L test, why?
You wer given the questions, why not sit down, articulate what a LT should do, and BAM....
go buy some bars.
Well don't go by some bars, the roadside DUI checkpoints may be there?
Go to the uniform store and purchase your LT bars.
Or, get it by merit, like all the other clowns who think they "deserved" it.
Just eliminate the 'merit' portion all together and that would be the existing tests a lot fairer!
Nine months to get a score on a scantron graded exam. If you don't believe in 100% meritorious, then I would like to sell you a nice bridge.
I will say this. I scored under 400 on the dicks exam and under 300 on the sgts exam. The tests come down and the city gets yet another do nothing.
I don't know anybody and I have zero clout. I have worked the street for over 10 years now. I don't have time to study in the car. I studied for the tests on my own time. I love how people who didn't study want the tests to come down. To those who scored poorly, take a long look in the mirror.
I know that the tests are rigged for the special people but, that being said the CPD is better than any suburb for promotions. Clout is the only factor in the burbs.
I recently met a few merit Sgts. The merit Sgts I met were the working police. I thought both of them made it by score.
I can say this. The most useless Sgts I've met made it by score. The Sgts had never worked the street and were house mouses as PO's. I know I'm not alone in the opinion that studying on the citys time had to help.
The merit process needs to be streamlined yes. Merit is here to stay so we need to have it be an open and transparent process. I have no doubts that some real hacks made their ranks by who they know and not what they did.
SUPT. WIES TO BE IN 018 FOR ROLL CALLS 1ST WATCH (2200-2300-0000HRS) FRIDAY NIGHT FOR SATURDAY. I'm sure he wouldnt mind it if people stopped in to say hello.
Any word on the condition of the PO's involved in this?
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One person was killed, and five others, including two Chicago police officers, injured in an overnight traffic crash on the city's Southeast Side.
The accident happened about midnight Wednesday in the 9200 block of South Paxton Avenue, said Eve Rodriguez, a Chicago Fire Department spokeswoman.
Eric Gray, 21, of the 2200 block of East 92nd Street, was pronounced dead at 3:45 a.m. at Northwestern Memorial Hospital, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.
Police said the officers suffered non-life-threatening injuries. Three civilians were taken to Advocate Trinity Hospital and Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, but the severity of their injuries was not immediately known.
Chicago police said the officers were in their squad car, and Gray was a passenger in the other vehicle involved in the crash.
Further details were unavailable Thursday morning.
Off topic: Who is the fat slob with the cheesy mustache dropping off his kid at St. Daniel the Prophet school using his unmarked light blue Crown Vic with "M" plates owned by the City of Chicago? I think I saw him around Homan Square before. From the looks of this cow, I don't think he's done any police work in years. Take home cars? C'mon! Maybe the Supe should start his axe-work there instead of fucking with Patrol. WTF!!!
You want to know why there are so many leadership problems with this Department? Look no further that the testing process. We aren't getting leaders. Not at all.
AMEN!!
I agree that Georgas is a pompous ass but both he and Kennedy both scored in the top five on both tests. True he was promoted to commander but so was every other exempt. Also he is not related to Mara. Different spelling Asshat!
ummm ardelean drunk, (DUI matrix given his admistrative BAC) crashed, AND killed 2 (losers) people. Yet, not in prison, not 2 checks, hell, not even one red cent! what recent events are you talking about SCC???
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Judge said no to trial as JA wasn't at fault and admin blow inadmissable, so there's no conviction, Administrative portion still on-going hasn't been resolved.
Look at Casper in Tinley, 12 years. That cop from 010, 8 years. The 025 district running over the grandma, 10 years.
SCC is right on. Your doing a decade inthe joint if you kill someone.
If this is true I am voting the current FOP slate out. I am voting against anyone being challenged for office and abstaining on any offiers that are not being challenged.
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Don't abstain - if you do you actually help the person that you are refusing to vote for. Write in a candidate and vote for the write in.
Just a thought....
If you kill someone, you will go to jail for 10 years at least (based on the most recent two or three incidents).
ummm ardelean drunk, (DUI matrix given his admistrative BAC) crashed, AND killed 2 (losers) people. Yet, not in prison, not 2 checks, hell, not even one red cent! what recent events are you talking about SCC???
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Do you not recall Jason Casper? He's doing 10 years for a DUI that killed one person.
sitting in the basement after work having a few pops seems to be the safest practice but is quite boring. i still go out and have a few in moderation. leave the fast pitching for your basement or get someone to drive you.
I agree that Georgas is a pompous ass but both he and Kennedy both scored in the top five on both tests.
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And amazinginly enough he worked for one of the guys who put the test together, Jimmy Maurer. Are you being deliberately ignorant or what? Maurer and every other subject matter expert got questions and material in the mail. Kennedy and Georgas opened the mail and typed up Maurer's replies.
SCC is right on. Your doing a decade inthe joint if you kill someone.
Except if you are an illegal.....then you get to skip back to Mexico and come back under another name and SS#
Vote for Paul Niezabitowski for FOP 7 Trustee, an Independent Candidate !!!
Ballots are being mailed out this Friday
2:26 am: IAD agents and Sergeants have always been breath test certified,,,been that way for years.
There isn't a huge conspiracy.
Just remember J-Fed hates drunk coppers and is on record about cracking down on them.
He has a point, considering the events of the past year.
You guys all talk shit about Biggane, but the fact is she earned her bars by good old fashioned stydying.
Phil Cline's son scored in the 150's on the very same test, and will not be making Lieutenant off this list. Think about what you're implying by bashing her. . . You're saying that the Superintendent of Police helped out some female sergeant before he helped out his own son?
Lt. Biggane, like 15 others in her class, earned her promotion by studying and doing well on the exam. Get over it!
Just pay me more for having my college degree like they do on almost every department in tyhe country. $$$ would make me happy not a bs promotion. BTW-didnt some ADS omly have a GED? or was that Leroy Martin?
2/21/2008 07:03:00 AM
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Our last interim superindendent STARKS, Dana V. had a GED too, so sad.
frenchie gone from 007 . two more to go
ISNT THIS LT. CRAP OLD NEWS? GET OVER IT ALREADY! MOVE ON!
Anonymous said...
Off topic: Who is the fat slob with the cheesy mustache dropping off his kid at St. Daniel the Prophet school using his unmarked light blue Crown Vic with "M" plates owned by the City of Chicago? I think I saw him around Homan Square before. From the looks of this cow, I don't think he's done any police work in years. Take home cars? C'mon! Maybe the Supe should start his axe-work there instead of fucking with Patrol. WTF!!!
2/21/2008 09:32:00 AM
How do you know he's the police snitch ?
hey 128am, the other asshole driver was at fault. DUMBASS
How did we ever survive without the ALL-KNOWING SCC....move on with your non-promoted sorry ass.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I lead troops in combat and yet this Daley and ALd.Balcer say they support vets but wont bring back veterans points for promotion test. This job and city are a joke!!
Semper FI!!
2/21/2008 07:02:00 AM
What are you talking about?
When Patty boy returns from overbythere, he will get any job he wants with his points.
I think any combat veteran that pass all the requirements/tests for the job should go to the top of the list. A CIB or CAB on the DD214 is proof. Combat zone vets should receive points.
To all vets, thanks for your service!
2/21/2008 07:09:00 AM
WHY ? Because I collect over $80,000 a year for doing nothing !! I take my shoes off in my cruiser and read the Sun-times (free one) and drink dicounted coffee. The hardest part of my job is wiping the hairgel off my car seat from the no time on the job midnight crew. PS stop repositioning the rearview mirror pretty boys and gals.
2/21/2008 12:28:00 AM
Who are flop representing? They cannot reply to emails, cannot return calls all calls are screened! They are doing nothing but looting the till! Hmm stragely fop=sos lite! We need a real union not a bunch of drunken hacks! But on another note was able to to see 1 of the stooges after appearing at flop hq! Used the bathroom upstairs there was more smoke in there that in a cheech and chong movie. Hey assholes it is our hall sorespect it ok idiots?
"Steve and his sister Mara Gerogas "
They aren't related.
A reliable source says m. buggane was provided with an abbreviated study material guide that allows one to concentrate on the subjects that the questions are drawn from.
The majority of disconnected candidates studied a much broader set of material that diluted their thought structure.
One of the most controversial questions involved knowledge that a detective, patrol officer, and an evidence technician would have simultaneously.
The test was cleverly contructed to favor the informed.
Anonymous said...
Off topic: Who is the fat slob with the cheesy mustache dropping off his kid at St. Daniel the Prophet school using his unmarked light blue Crown Vic with "M" plates owned by the City of Chicago? I think I saw him around Homan Square before. From the looks of this cow, I don't think he's done any police work in years. Take home cars? C'mon! Maybe the Supe should start his axe-work there instead of fucking with Patrol. WTF!!!
2/21/2008 09:32:00 AM
Just like the jagoff picking up his kid and dropping off with "the canine truck", guess since he is best friends with sgt ebay he can do whatever he wants! After all sgt ebay handled the botched shooting on 95th and the ryan years ago! What a goof!
SUPT. WIES TO BE IN 018 FOR ROLL CALLS 1ST WATCH (2200-2300-0000HRS) FRIDAY NIGHT FOR SATURDAY. I'm sure he wouldnt mind it if people stopped in to say hello.
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no offense 018...but hey jody how about coming and talking to the working police?
1120 is still bitching about that test! The truth is 20, we don't need a psychopath for a Lt. Take your meds you arrogant prick!
The test worked at least in this one case.
SUPT. WIES TO BE IN 018 FOR ROLL CALLS 1ST WATCH (2200-2300-0000HRS) FRIDAY NIGHT FOR SATURDAY. I'm sure he wouldnt mind it if people stopped in to say hello.
2/21/2008 08:24:00 AM
Looks like Mikey Shields will be there with both his knee pads on. It would be great if he bitches about getting dumped to mids by the Commander to the new Supt. Jody says "alright son, let's look into this" Jody walks right over to the computer and runs Mikey's stats. Jody turn around and then laughs at the waste of a po and exlpains that 20 arrest in the past year does not make you worthy of mamnagement bid to third watch. He then retreads this bad copper from "011" back to a ghetto to learn how to be the police
Kennedy/Biggane/Georgas and similar connectees had the same advantage. Pre-knowledge of the exams proposed questions.
How else could you score in the top ten.
Two PO's in serious to critical condition after overnight crash in 004.
"We figured by not addressing them, people would figure out that they were BS."
So if you don't post it as a topic it isn't true SCC? Strong line for a sarcasm and silliness blog designed for the blue shirts of CPD. SCC so powerful that if I ignore a rumor it can't be true. The first and final authority on all CPD rumors.
I was perusing the Department website yesterday and stumbled upon Matt Tobias' resume on the Academy page. In his illustrious career he has received a whopping one, count'em ONE, department commendation and like 40 honorable mentions. Obviously his merit exempt spots weren't based on his police work. Sad.
If you kill someone, you will go to jail for 10 years at least (based on the most recent two or three incidents).
ummm ardelean drunk, (DUI matrix given his admistrative BAC) crashed, AND killed 2 (losers) people. Yet, not in prison, not 2 checks, hell, not even one red cent! what recent events are you talking about SCC???
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Do you not recall Jason Casper? He's doing 10 years for a DUI that killed one person.
2/21/2008 09:47:00 AM
Let's not forget John Krass who's sitting downstate for his DUI/Homicide. Ohh, looks like he's getting out soon too...go to the IDOC webiste..he's looking mighty fine in those oranges...
To 2/21/2008 09:32:00 AM
LOL, My kids go to St. Dan's. The cheesy mustache dude is a detective assigned to the Area 4 PATROL DIV. His name is Bob G. Very nice guy, but the facial hair is from Cannaryville 1973. Oh yeah, dont be jealous about the take home car be upset about the huge OT checks he gets for doing really nothing other than walking upstairs to A/4 HGS and getting reports on shootings and then walking back downstairs to give the paperwork to a Sgt. I have seen the checks and its sad (over $2,000 take home at times). He's also a realtor if you want to sell your crib in Garfield Ridge.
Just eliminate the 'merit' portion all together and that would be the existing tests a lot fairer!
2/21/2008 07:53:00 AM
"a lot fairer?" you should be the last to complain about any test
No, Casper is doing 10 years for killing 2 people. Krass got 4 years for 1, but now they are giving lots more time. Don't drink and drive!!!!!!
I agree that Georgas is a pompous ass but both he and Kennedy both scored in the top five on both tests.
It helps when you work in Maurer's office and he is one of the "subject matter experts"
Is today the day that Commander of TRU gets busted back down to Captain? Rumors are that he is on the outs with many. Maybe its spending too much time at his greek functions and never at work. BTW, why does a commander who "leads" a unit that works strait nights always working days?
@4 million for a test? OH YEAH! it will be up for a good 4-5 years. It's(sgt) not coming down any time soon. With all the X-ing of 35/Mich if your under 500 you might have a chance on this test.
I do believe there are leaks that give some P.O.'s an edge, but we all have the same material. How can that be rigged.
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Rigged is such a strong word, but advantages: absolutely. When you have a bunch of college kids grading the written part, they know nothing about the job.
Lets say the question is "What is parked in the east lot of Bell School?" If the correct answer was School Bus and instead you wrote, large yellow multipassenger vehicle that is responsible for transporting students to and from their school, well, if the person grading the test (Joe College) knows nothing about what a school bus is, then they'd score that question as wrong, simply because they didnt use the word that was on the answer key. You can explain everything in detail, but if you dont use the right 'catch phrases' then you dont get the points. Those 'secret' classes are the ones that teach you in 'catchpraseology' so you are assured the max points. Yes, all the information is out there to learn, but it isnt being graded on the same level.
If you were sitting in the same study group I was, you might too have been in the first class made but alas, you didnt make friends in the right places.
I would have helped out earlier but like the rest of my classmates, I had to sign off on agreeing not to share my study materials with anyone not involved in the class.
sucker.
Chicago police said the officers were in their squad car, and Gray was a passenger in the other vehicle involved in the crash.
Further details were unavailable Thursday morning.
2/21/2008 09:16:00 AM
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PO's are fine but shaken up. Sprained ankle, torn ligament in the hand, nothing life threatening. On the way to an assist the PO job in 004. Intersection related. Fatality was a passenger in the back of the car. He was coherent on scene and in the amb.
Kennedy and Georgas opened the mail and typed up Maurer's replies.
2/21/2008 09:53:00 AM
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Interesting if true... but they're the ones that had to REMEMBER THE ANSWERS! If they didnt do that then they wouldnt have scored so well. They obviously must deserve their spots.
Go back to TRU you fucking tool. Gerogas is an arrogant asshole. Our only hope is Richie's heart explodes and Steve and his sister Mara Gerogas get replaced with with some people with class who actually were raised to treat other people with respect regardless of the fact they might be their subordinates.
Gerogas is the problem with the promotion process, merit sgt, merit lt, merit commander.
Him and Mara are not related for the millionth time. I have worked for both, they were good bosses, yes they were probably spoon-fed the test, but they became good bosses. If you don't like them you are a dog or jealous. We can't change the political climate, but we can hope that some of those that do benefit from it become good bosses. Say what you will, but they did learn from the best.
18th Dist. roll call,... will he get input from the meritclourious Lt 'DW' who had an Arrest Wrt issued when he sexually abused a minor in WI or was it MI? It mysteriously all went away. Oh I forgot, whole family are/were white shirts... have the (clout) ties.
word here @ 35th street is that the sgt. From an area gun team, is skipping lt rank & going right to commander. What a friggin joke.
Vote out the FOP Slate!! And BTW Get the plat number of the SGT that likes to drive his kid to school. That would be a nice anonymous note to the new Supt and the media. That sgt is using taxpayer dollars to help his kid. What kind of BS is this!!!!! It is illegal and unethical. Mr.SUPT investigate now.
FOP does nothing but take our $$$$
The Lt test was an opinion it wasn't based on fact. One of the choices was to inform the roll call about a murderer but the answer was read the DIBS, DOC and daily bulletin. Biggane was number 1 after scoring terribly the first time she took the LT test I guess being a secretary for the Sup doesn't hurt.
2/21/2008 12:21:00 AM
Not true I was in the top 10 and I did warn about the murderer. Officer safety was key.
Go back to TRU you fucking tool. Gerogas is an arrogant asshole. Our only hope is Richie's heart explodes and Steve and his sister Mara Gerogas get replaced with with some people with class who actually were raised to treat other people with respect regardless of the fact they might be their subordinates.
Gerogas is the problem with the promotion process, merit sgt, merit lt, merit commander.
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Wow you are cetainly pulling this information out of a place where the sun don't shine. None of this is factual. Keep talking - no one is listening.
Just wondering if anyone with actual insight might know when another Sgt's class will be made and if so how many??
Kennedy and Gerogas are two of the most stand-up guys on this ....
By doing what, porking another Sgt.'s wife.
That says alot about a man's character.
I think that Sgt. should find Chris K and slapp his ass around.
He's a pretty boy, and a pussy.
Had words with him one time, and he pussied up.
I slo worked for Georgas...
He, my man, is a tool trying to make a name for himself.
Print It!!
the only "FAIR" thing to do with the test is to eliminate the merit process.
Although most of the one that were promoted by merit think they deserved it.
Maybe 5 percent of them....
Oh well. This job still sucks and I will continue doing nothing but collecting a paycheck
say good bye to any possible chance of a good knowledgable working boss, the new tests and grading will birth no it all college boys with no street sense, sending troops into battle. lose lose situation. we were better with the old system, at least old school workin guys had a chance of getting something meritorious.
I finished under 200 on the Sgt. exam. 10 plus years on the job, all on patrol. I paid for study group classes w/Roberts and Bernstein both open to anyone. I studied on my own at home during the day and worked afternoons. Only had the materials that were available to anyone. I hate the promotional process as much as anyone, especially the 30% merit, however, I pray the city keeps this list up for a few years. I'm sure if you were in my shoes you would want the same thing. Start fresh with the next test and new contract. Don't change the rules halfway through the game.
This is exciting times we live in. You know sooner or later downtown will create more bullshit ribons so JFED doesnt look like a PPO.
Hmmm. How about the I worked for the FBI award or the Big head award.
Well there are two ribbons he can pin on his chest
IAD probably isn't done with the case against Ardelean so don't think that he's in the clear yet. They usually keep the internal case open until the criminal case is over.
Just so you know, the State's Attorney's Office could still decide to do an end-run around the judge and direct indict the case.
Either way, I wouldn't be resting easy yet if I were him.
ATTENTION
Rumor is tomorrow, Friday 22 Feb 08 there will be more beheadings at or around 1400 hrs.
You have been warned, get some packing boxes hack-merit-I-was-promoted-by-Cline-bosses.
I suggest Pepto Bismol too.
"Georgas is a stand up guy"..lmao.
He was a great patrolman, with balls.......yeah right.
Alot of honest hard working people studied hard for those tests. It would be a shame if he drops them.
Coppers who worked hard sometimes 2 or 3 side jobs, Coppers with families, Hard working street policeman.
MORALE would be at an all time low!!!
To the credit of Deputy Supt. of Patrol Beatrice Cuello, I understand that she recently offered to return 10th Dist. PO Dannye Ward to his old stomping grounds on 16th St. (Beat 1014) to the chagrin and consternation of 24th Ward uberbitch Sharon Denise Dixon.
A good start for your credibility, Ms. Cuello.
Now, if only J-Fed would come out and actually do something about the cancer of clout ("merit") that permeates assignments and promotions in the CPD. Break this lethal stranglehold on the morale, sir. Other "problems" will then be resolved. The defining key to your success is a relentless attack on the political clout monster. It is critical.
I wholeheartedly agree with an earlier poster that proposed that J-Fed have all sworn CPD take the standardized Wonderlic, 12 minute, 50 item, multiple choice intelligence test.
A side note; at the NFL combine which begins in Indy today, the Wonderlic is included with 40 yard dash times, etc. to evaluate future NFL prospects.
Several years ago, one player, a Harvard punter, recorded a perfect score of 50. Conversely, a moron's score on the Wonderlic does not affect a stupid college linebacker from becoming a perennial All-Pro.
Since Supt. Weis just stepped into this CPD Pandora's box, it could prove most helpful if he could readily identify those that score at both extremes of the bell curve.
Don't get too cocky about the Dannye Ward thing, Bea. The conscience of the CPD will be standing watch.
Hey SCC: Give us some direction: Who the hell should we be supporting for FOP positions?
2/21/2008 09:32:00 AM
Shut up you jealous fucktard. I remember my mother and father picking me up in a Dodge Monaco years back to and from school. Go back to your Traffic Response Unit and tell all the other PPO's about your great career of TVB's and (1) bag weed arrests.
Anonymous said : ...from IAD becoming certified. That leaves me to think that IAD will be running the test on cops.
Duh I'm an idiot who never read any of those general orders but I believe what SCC tells me is the latest scandal.
Hey dumb ass it's always been that IAD (and in identified circumstances ETs) is involved in DUI allegations with on/off duty POs. Go read your freak'in orders.
Wheres the inspector for the sgt that likes to give his kid a ride to school in a company car? He should be demoted the both of them! Come on JFED this is why the POs think this job is such BULLSHIT! It is all about Clout and votes!! Make the fatass sgt walk a beat-Muscle man
There is a PO that is a full colonel in the national guard. How comes he aint no boss????? You know you cant just buy or wessel your rank in the military.
Hey Johnnie Mac lighten up, your boys Kennedy and Georgas aren't going anywhere..plenty of time for you to suck thier asses!
Will someone PLEASE look at the ghost payrollling that is going on over at the Academy?
On any given day there are a minimum of five PO's and another five civiians that are being "covered."
Yesterday, YH attended the afternoon car camera class that starts at 1600 hrs = she showed up at 1900 hrs!
Most days she shows up for work at 0900 or 1000hrs and is gone by 1300
She is also on CD yet can do intergrated exercises w/the revereds. She is not "hurt" enough for that!
Ghost payrolling is out of control over there = HELP!
If you kill someone, you will go to jail for 10 years at least (based on the most recent two or three incidents).
ummm ardelean drunk, (DUI matrix given his admistrative BAC) crashed, AND killed 2 (losers) people. Yet, not in prison, not 2 checks, hell, not even one red cent! what recent events are you talking about SCC???.....
We still have rights. P.O. didn't go thru any lights or signs as the victims drove right thru a stop sign. P.O. had the right of way. Every accident has a degree of responsiblity and fault. P.O. didn't blow for criminal case. Every accident is differnet. The Judge ruled, let it go and quite monday morning quarterbacking not knowing the facts.
How to make the merit process fair?
How about no merit at all, like it use to be.
Do you not recall Jason Casper? He's doing 10 years for a DUI that killed one person.
2/21/2008 09:47:00 AM......
He was unfortunately 99% at fault for blowing a red lite! Different circumstances.
By any chance does this LT Biggane have a husband on the job? any info?
police officers are getting stipped any info
I take my shoes off in my cruiser and read the Sun-times (free one) and drink ..........
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cruiser? a troll who doesn't speak CPD and reads 2nd grade reading material.
That LT DW from 18 has always been rumored to be getting taken care of by all those bars on division. Any truth to this?
I am so tired of all the bs from p.o.s who can't take a test. I have no clout. I come from a district. I studied my ass of and as a result I scored in the top 20. So all you guys and gals who say the fix is in take my advice and study. Stop being like dude blaming everyone else for your short comings.
The following changes supposedly happened today, Thursday, 21 Feb 08:
1. Michael Chasen---retired under strong encouragement
2. Maria Maher-----retired, period.
3. Everett Johnson--retired
4. Michael Boyce (chief of staff for the Supt--civilian)...separated from the department
I agree that Georgas is a pompous ass but both he and Kennedy both scored in the top five on both tests. True he was promoted to commander but so was every other exempt. Also he is not related to Mara. Different spelling Asshat!
2/21/2008 09:38:00 AM
Mauer gave them the test! Don't believe it, just ask someone in the know.
Problem: Who to support for FOP positions in the upcoming election?
Bigger problem: Of the over 12,000 sworn members below the rank of Sgt. who might perhaps run for FOP elective office LESS THAN 100 actually went to the minimum number of FOP General Meetings in 2007 and thus are eligible to run.
Yes, that's right, LESS THAN 100 OF YOU COMPLAINING BITCHES EVEN BOTHERED TO GO TO 5 FOP MEETINGS.
So if you want to complain about the FOP then go home and look in the mirror because it is ALL YOUR OWN FAULT!
I am sick of hearing constant complaining in the locker room by people who don't know what the hell they are talking about and don't ever go to a meeting and don't really know the issues or what it takes to get a City run by Richard M. Daley to sit down and bargain in good faith.
Don't like who is running the FOP? Then put together a slate of viable candidates, learn the process, run for office, spend your own money on literature, mailings etc. and take lots of time off to spread the word of your message and get elected to something and then you can change it to your liking. Or so you think.
Only those who have never participated in the process think it is as easy as saying "Why doesn't the FOP do something?"
Hey, all you 12,000 plus officers below the rank of Sgt. who are NOT eligible to run for elective FOP office, YOU ARE TO BLAME. You have the power to change things but you do nothing but endlessly debate the merits of coppers driving while drunk and how many years in prison you might have to do.
Get involved, help the process along or shut the fuck up.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How to make the merit process fair?
How about no merit at all, like it use to be.
2/21/2008 06:57:00 PM
You do not know what you are talking about.The testing process has never been all the way legit.
At least now everyone sits in a separate desk. I can remember taking a test at Daley College when everyone sat at lunchroom tables that was monitored by the police, tell me that was legit.
The Wonderlic I.Q. test would be a cost effective, time saving way of sorting out the gifted from the idiots on this job. Add the MMPI to screen out the psychopaths and miscellaneous head cases.
Include the factors of actual street experience and performance in fast districts, common sense, good health and the ability to relate well with others and we'd have a winner.
Ummm, sorry but Jason killed two people and was initially given 14 years....(7 for each death) Sentence was appealed and knocked down to 010....Also, IAD should be certified as breath techs, unfortunately they will be called out again and why middle a PO or ET or even a SGT when they are representing the departments intrest.
Anonymous said...
I was perusing the Department website yesterday and stumbled upon Matt Tobias' resume on the Academy page. In his illustrious career he has received a whopping one, count'em ONE, department commendation and like 40 honorable mentions. Obviously his merit exempt spots weren't based on his police work. Sad.
2/21/2008 12:35:00 PM
Most awards on this job are BS.
Link to the page with Weis' appearance on WTTW, February 19.
Click here
"You guys all talk shit about Biggane, but the fact is she earned her bars by good old fashioned stydying.
Phil Cline's son scored in the 150's on the very same test, and will not be making Lieutenant off this list. Think about what you're implying by bashing her. . . You're saying that the Superintendent of Police helped out some female sergeant before he helped out his own son?
Lt. Biggane, like 15 others in her class, earned her promotion by studying and doing well on the exam. Get over it!"
The Sup has nothing to do with it. The subject matter experts have their own agenda, and the answers. And don't give me that bullshit about how they still had to memorize the answers. The hardest part about the test is knowing what to study from the volumes of info given. Just follow the trail to the subject matter experts they are associated with. Georges and Kennedy? Casey and Flores? Biggane? How many worked for or were "good friends" with subject matter experts? We wonder why we have so many rule 14 violations as a department. We learn by example. Our leaders have no integrity and no shame. I am ashamed to work here. I tell people I am a garbage man.
Vote out the FOP Slate!! And BTW Get the plat number of the SGT that likes to drive his kid to school. That would be a nice anonymous note to the new Supt and the media. That sgt is using taxpayer dollars to help his kid. What kind of BS is this!!!!! It is illegal and unethical. Mr.SUPT investigate now.
This is exactly what is wrong with the CPD. Snitching little bitches. Who gives a flying fuck if this Dect. drops off his kid at school in a company car? Or the Sgt. or K-9 guy? really, does that bother you that much? If so, be a man, and file a complaint with the new OPS and sign your punk ass name to it, so the whole department will know what a pussy cry baby you are. My god, the whole liberal city hates us, and you attack a fellow copper? Piss off,pussy.
What happens if you have college and a combat vet then what Mr.Vitals how dumb is dumb go retire to Wallmart and get the free paper there!
I got screwed out of my awards so dept awards mean NOTHING!!! The only real award is for deploying with the military cant get screwed out of that one or fake it. How many Bosses have that one???? ZERO they are wannabe heros. Ever notice that it is the Bosses that have awards that are afraid to give them out to others. You know why then they would have competition for their jobs. Cowards pure cowards.
When does Matt T get dumped? Thats SOS stuff is our biggest scandal to date. Why SUPT is he still in the academy curropting the young hairgels? Isnt the FBI Academy an ethical place. I question JFED's integraty if Matt T stays on.
Most academy rats only work a few hours. Some have side gigs right in the building selling homes to recruits or running their clown buisness. Some get to work on their degrees or even go to law school away from the building on company time. A brewing scandal for sure. Hey Goddie come look at this. Supt wont touch it. So come on Press. BTW It will be the CPD and the lack of security and professionalism of the dept that helps us not to get the Olympics.
OT:
ASA charged with PCS after being pick up in Austin neighborhood....What's the story?
What a bunch of backstabbing pussies. If everyone who posts about something illegal or wrong anonymously or pleading for media help, why don't you file an official complaint. Otherwise SHUT THE FUCK UP...you belong hunting commmies with McCarthy you fucking idiots.
How many take home cars are at the Academy? Even POs get a take home cars-nice. That and less than 8 hour days.
WAAAA...I didn't get promoted, I don't have a take home vehicle, I don't work days, Cline works the memorial, Tobias is at the academy, Daley is the Mayor, FOP sucks......Miserable fucks, quiet yer bitchin and get off your asses and do something instead of whining about it!!!
SUPT. WIES TO BE IN 018 FOR ROLL CALLS 1ST WATCH (2200-2300-0000HRS) FRIDAY NIGHT FOR SATURDAY. I'm sure he wouldnt mind it if people stopped in to say hello.
2/21/2008 08:24:00 AM
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not true he'll be in 011 that night...
LT test...I took the Bernstein class and they emphasized critical thinking and looking for key words and phrases in a question. They also broke down each order for the important parts. It helped a lot on the test. Anyone could sign up for it. I heard a lot of people say that they thought that it was too expensive, I considered it an investment. I finished near 100, might get promoted, I might not, but whatever happens, it will happen based on the effort I put in. Put in some time on the books, apply what you have learned on the street, and you can do ok. If you don't want to work at it, you will do shitty. Whether for SGt or LT, put in some work, you can do well. No work, no chance.
To...
"I was perusing the Department website yesterday and stumbled upon Matt Tobias' resume on the Academy page. In his illustrious career he has received a whopping one, count'em ONE, department commendation and like 40 honorable mentions. Obviously his merit exempt spots weren't based on his police work. Sad."
He probably worked in 014. Getting a supervisor to type out an honorable mention is like pulling teeth. Other districts they hand them out like water.
"Alot of honest hard working people studied hard for those tests. It would be a shame if he drops them."
A lot is two words not one.
Anonymous said...
Will someone PLEASE look at the ghost payrollling that is going on over at the Academy?
How are you so certain? Do you sneak around watching everyone? Are you so perfect? Leaving 5 minutes early does not make ghost payrolling. Why are you so worried? Do you sign the checks? How do you have time to watch everyone? Check your facts before talking, honey. Some one is bitter. Try working the street. Give academy a break.
There is a Sgt on the job who is a retired full colonel of the US Army, a brigade commander. He commanded 1,700 combat troops and the idiot sgt.s here look at him as square, straight and not much of a Sgt. Those same sgt's. don't know a thing about leadership or integrity but plenty about getting along with CPD bosses, covering shit up, ducking early etc.
Weis needs a lifetime contract because that is what it will take to make the CPD into a professional organization. It won't happen here. Some changes will be made but then, back to normal.
Weiss is part of the tap dance Daley is doing to fend off a Fed consent decree and get the Olympics. As usual he pulls off an incredibly brilliant move that won't do much and he looks good in the process.
I've got to hand it to Daley, he is a master strategist and tactician, I detest the man and the corruption he brings to the table but he is good at what he does.
Anonymous said...
Will someone PLEASE look at the ghost payrollling that is going on over at the Academy?
On any given day there are a minimum of five PO's and another five civiians that are being "covered."
Yesterday, YH attended the afternoon car camera class that starts at 1600 hrs = she showed up at 1900 hrs!
Most days she shows up for work at 0900 or 1000hrs and is gone by 1300
She is also on CD yet can do intergrated exercises w/the revereds. She is not "hurt" enough for that!
Ghost payrolling is out of control over there = HELP!
2/21/2008 06:31:00 PM
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My Oh My! Whats the matter? She put you in your place you 5 year wonder. I'm sure that you always work 8 for 8. Quit your BITCHING and worry about yourself. If you have a problem with her why don't you MAN (or WOMAN) up and tell her yourself. Typical new Police. Always worried about what someone else is doing and not what they are doing.
Anonymous said...
How many take home cars are at the Academy? Even POs get a take home cars-nice. That and less than 8 hour days.
2/21/2008 08:55:00 PM
Take Home Cars? At the Academy? Someone is either a troll or slipped through the psych.
In regard to the Georgas and Kennedy comments, we shouldn't blame them for all that has been literally handed to them. They were both (and other participant's in this particular click who shall remain nameless), very fortunate to have been taken under the wing of one of the last and best "Old School" bosses, Jimmy Maurer. Before Maurer retired he fought long and hard to put together a traveling tactical unit which is now called TRU. This unit was Maurer's idea from the start. The unit was approved as a result of the Trans Atlantic Business Conference that took place at the
Sheraton Hotel. Remember how tough the the goone squad looked on TV. Well, the unit got the big ok after that big show of police presence. Of course, Maurer picked both Georgas and Kennedy to run the unit since at the time of the units implementation, they both worked at the Chief's office. So, we have them to thank for the unit. However, before Maurer retired, he moved his final checkers putting in place, Georgas as the acting commander of the Marine Unit, Kennedy as the acting commander of TRU and others that were placed in other nice spots. I remember all the buss about the newly made Lt.'s getting made acting commander's of unit's they knew nothing about. From what I remember hearing, a Lt. with diving certifications and with years of boating experience getting passed up. Then when Georgas was made commander of 018, Kennedy took the seat that Georgas had left in the Marine Unit. Oh, well! Someone had to have confidence in the leadership abilities of these guys (and others in this click), to constantly give them units of this caliver. It is what it is, and I think that those last checkers moved where part of the old police culture, a culture where bosses always looked out for their people. This department was founded on that principle and I think that most officer's without that type of "Clout" just don't understand it or accept it. I know both men mentioned and I think that they have learned alot along the way, even if they are still way younger than most bosses.
7:41 PM:
Check your source:
Chasen and Maher did NOT retire.
guru say you can get rid of merit you can get rid of clout but if crime rate goes up your ass is out. not a slam to new ceo's but with morale down and man power low learn the lesson of any ppo.COVER THY ASS.
Coward is a word tossed around on here a lot. Look up it's meaning before using it. I don't remember ever hearing a police officer call another cop a coward until I saw it on here.
was perusing the Department website yesterday and stumbled upon Matt Tobias' resume on the Academy page. In his illustrious career he has received a whopping one, count'em ONE, department commendation and like 40 honorable mentions. Obviously his merit exempt spots weren't based on his police work. Sad.
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You obviously don't know shiut and have 2 yrs on the job. Awards are nice but 80% of them don't even get typed up. Honorable Mentions...........Fuck I seen people get them for CTTV with misdameanor weed in slow districts up north AND THEIR ARE POSTED ON A BULLETIN BOARD UNFUKIN REAL!...ALso seen a couple for PCS witha weapon tur in WTF IS THAT?.....Come to the ghetto districts where you used to get a gun a week or a robbery pinch and get jack shit cuz the lazy SGT who is stuck there doesn't want to do anything.
I won't even talk about how many names ended up on a couple homicide cases we caught the offenders for for DC's By the time it left the Det division there were 15 names on that MF'r.
Won't even mention how in many districts P.O.s write up thier own awards. Guess if the Sgt aint gonna do it someone should.
SO just because you don't have awards doesn't mean you 're not a fucking working copper or just because you have them doesn't mean you are one. Paper jumping has been around as long a clout. For those of the bosses that actually fill stuff out and present it I applaud you. That's the way it should be done.
IF you pull you complimentary history on the dept page it's so FUKED ANYWAYS that it's missing half the stuff cuz shnanay be puttin it in there in between doing her nails and hair.
Take you 2yr on the job ass and you strie for awards and stick it in your ass. Half the HM's are fukin paper jumped anyways by whole tact teams in whoich one car gota pinch and threw the rest of the team on there. Again all those words you apew prove yet again you need to dry the wetness from behind you ears and fix your feauhawk
WAAAA...I didn't get promoted, I don't have a take home vehicle, I don't work days, Cline works the memorial, Tobias is at the academy, Daley is the Mayor, FOP sucks......Miserable fucks, quiet yer bitchin and get off your asses and do something instead of whining about it!!!
2/21/2008 09:06:00 PM
AHHHH AHAHAHAHAHA IVE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR MONTHS BUT SCC KEEPS SCREENING ME! HOW DID YOU SNEAK IT PAST SCC? ANYWAYS, NICELY PUT!
Just so you know, the State's Attorney's Office could still decide to do an end-run around the judge and direct indict the case.
Either way, I wouldn't be resting easy yet if I were him.
2/21/2008 03:50:00 PM
I hope they do. Then, after all the lack of evidence is presented and the case is tossed a second time, JA will then have a GREAT case in a civil court for malicious prosecution. A judge throws out the case but a grand jury indicts even after the SAO knows this case will go no where? Puts the man through 2 years or so of undue headaches and financial strains... what a GREAT case for a civil court room. Its a grand slam. If I were JA, secretly Id be hoping for an indictment good things come to those who wait...
ps Id go on the offensive and sue the family ofthe offender for having to have gone through this experience because it is a FACT the offender was drunk!
I am a citizen taxpayer in need of a really good tune-up.
What station house has the best mechanics on duty for the midnight shift?
I have never witness so many cry babies in my life. I got a college degree pay me more, he got an inside job boo hoo hoo! he/she's on tact! he/she's a veteran gimme gimme! they got clout, they use hair gel....why don't you people go somewhere that want you. If you so goddamn smart why are you on this lowly ass police department??????? You don't have clout, quite!!!! Hair gel don't work for you...sayonara!!!! The test is unfair....how did they make SGT. How did they make LT. I'm the real police I'm stuck in a ghetto district, somebody help me please!!! The politicians are crooked man! J-Fed is after me, the reverends, the media, the public... woe it with me! The animals, the assholes, what am I to do?? sounds like a remedial 3rd grade class room. If you have a college degree, why aren't you with some fortune 500 company........too fucking stupid, a waste of time and money getting those useless ass liberal arts degrees..........funny how every veteran you meet is an infantryman, what happens to all of the cooks, clerks, truck drivers,mechanics??? There are People who just want to do their goddamn jobs and go home in one piece. WE are getting really tired of you moaning, groaning, bitching sorry ass excuses for adults
Dump the ass-kisser Caluris, never worked the streets, stole everyone else's credit, and has kissed enough cline and risley ass to last a lifetime. pompous prick who knows nothing. You'll look good as CAPS Lieutenant somewhere you fat little prick!
Lt. Biggane is smoken, leave her alone..It's about time we straight guys have some bosses we can flirt with..
Anonymous said...
18th Dist. roll call,... will he get input from the meritclourious Lt 'DW' who had an Arrest Wrt issued when he sexually abused a minor in WI or was it MI? It mysteriously all went away. Oh I forgot, whole family are/were white shirts... have the (clout) ties.
2/21/2008 01:52:00 PM
whoever you are:
you sir are the biggest piece of shit with two legs. my suggestion, get off the computer and go back to biting that pillow. cause thats about all your good for. DW is a great boss has more balls than you'll ever dream of having and has helped more coppers than your little brain could count. fucknuts.
". You're saying that the Superintendent of Police helped out some female sergeant before he helped out his own son?
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That's how clout often works. Too cover the tracks a little, one corrupt filthy clout ridden hack helps another's bitch, and the other helps his. Unfortunately for our current subject, his scooter threw a bearing in the middle of the run.
Of course, sometimes they don't care and just go out and hire the best man at their wedding.
Too risky right now, with J-Fed sniffing around.
I'd be willing to bet though, a year or two from now, there will be some bars and a phat gig in gang intel waiting.
Anonymous said...
I was perusing the Department website yesterday and stumbled upon Matt Tobias' resume on the Academy page. In his illustrious career he has received a whopping one, count'em ONE, department commendation and like 40 honorable mentions. Obviously his merit exempt spots weren't based on his police work. Sad.
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No friend of Tobias but the number of awards you get mean nothing. Having always worked the south side I've seen and experienced the disparately between the north side and south when it comes to awards and discipline. For the amount of guns and burglars and stick up men the south side coppers get in a year could make a north side guy's career. I've personally locked up four people for murder, all separate cases and haven't got much more then Tobias to show for it. And lets not even get started on the guns, dope, hot cars and burglars..Know a copper who was shot on the south side and he didn't get his award until three years later..and he got it at his units Christmas party not the event at city hall like the north siders...Yea, thanks for almost making the ultimate sacrifice officer, we'll get around to you eventually...nice.....,
21 and now 18..geez Supt. are you afraid to go to a working district?? Maybe you listened to Fr. Nagle for advice about which districts to visit. 22 years and never once saw the good father in a south side district, not once..yet he can make enough money in his spot to buy a ranch...nice......You know father there are plenty of Catholics on the south side and we promise not to let anyone eat you, we promise....Just kidding, after 22 years would rather not see you now..
miss numero unos esposo is sgt. e.d. in f.a.u. he's a friggin ahole. he supplied esposas exempt friends with sport event tickets. he quietly served the egg nog at her famous big boss xmas galas.
when p.c. was chief he gave his son the sergeant test the night before the exam. go ask the 11 district tact rangers whos house they all memorized it at.
The academy has been out of control for years..There are no standards, no experts, just clout people...And any one who might try and do some good just gets shut down because it would mean the others would have to do some work..The majority of those who have worked there over the years could care less about these kids careers or safety...I really hope the superintendent keeps his word about fixing training...
Why is everyone freaking out about this guy dropping his kid off at school for fucks sake??? What has become of the thin blue line? He's not out robbing people with the car or picking up whores. Jesus, pick your battles!
Little fat boy is jealous again.
I guess if I installed cable in the commander's house on company time he would give me a new truck for my pooch and all the OT I wanted.
But I don't know how to install cable. Can I blow you?
Biggane made it on her own, are you out of your fucking mind, she does terrible on an objective test and low and behold she does great on a subjective test. Why would they ever allow an opinion to deteremine then future of the police department. This broad hasn't made an arrest in the last 14 of her fifteen year career.
What do you think would happen if they put all women in 11 crime up or crime down. Arrests up or arrests down?
Biggane stop trying to defend yourself. You have already been indentified.
Get involved, help the process along or shut the fuck up.
2/21/2008 07:54:00 PM
the majority of us have lives and are usually working 2 or three jobs.......thats why we have the FOP, to have our backs. Now why dont you shut the fuck up!
To everyone here! If you see someone use the company car for something other then company buisness then RAT that fucker OUT!!!! Before you say I am an asshole, check it out...insurance in case of an accident, city picks it up, god forbid, a child is hurt while they are taking them to school.... I see my tax bills, and everything else, and for the haters, you want me at the GJ!
Most awards on this job are BS.
2/21/2008 08:28:00 PM
From a guy who has none
2:04 PM, I heard the same thing, but which area gun team?????
"Anonymous said...
Will someone PLEASE look at the ghost payrollling that is going on over at the Academy?
How are you so certain? Do you sneak around watching everyone? Are you so perfect? Leaving 5 minutes early does not make ghost payrolling. Why are you so worried? Do you sign the checks? How do you have time to watch everyone? Check your facts before talking, honey. Some one is bitter. Try working the street. Give academy a break.
2/21/2008 10:07:00 PM"
'Do you sign the checks?'
Better than that, my taxes cover them.
Off topic: Who is the fat slob with the cheesy mustache dropping off his kid at St. Daniel the Prophet school using his unmarked light blue Crown Vic with "M" plates owned by the City of Chicago? I think I saw him around Homan Square before. From the looks of this cow, I don't think he's done any police work in years. Take home cars? C'mon! Maybe the Supe should start his axe-work there instead of fucking with Patrol. WTF!!!
2/21/2008 09:32:00 AM
who cares...and who cares about your 1 hour lunch
I agree that Georgas is a pompous ass but both he and Kennedy both scored in the top five on both tests. True he was promoted to commander but so was every other exempt. Also he is not related to Mara. Different spelling Asshat!
MAYBE TRUE, BUT LET;S SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO HIS BROTHER SPIRO, WHO HAS NO CLUE HOW TO BE THE POLICE, BUT YET IS A SGT. , AND PROBABLY IS DESTINED FOR GREATNESS.....
If you kill someone, you will go to jail for 10 years at least (based on the most recent two or three incidents).
ummm ardelean drunk, (DUI matrix given his admistrative BAC) crashed, AND killed 2 (losers) people. Yet, not in prison, not 2 checks, hell, not even one red cent! what recent events are you talking about SCC???
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dont forget mette,,oh thats right.no murder
The following changes supposedly happened today, Thursday, 21 Feb 08:
1. Michael Chasen---retired under strong encouragement
2. Maria Maher-----retired, period.
3. Everett Johnson--retired
4. Michael Boyce (chief of staff for the Supt--civilian)...separated from the department
2/21/2008 07:41:00 PM
plese tell me, no nothing, Ernie Brown is on that list........useless pos....................
no offense 018...but hey jody how about coming and talking to the working police?
2/21/2008 11:42:00 AM
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And how is one NOT to take offense to this? If you wanna work, you can come to 018 on 1st watch in the summer or on weekends all year round. You can reason with a gangbanger... you can reason with someone jumpin on their baby daddy or baby momma... you can even reason with a mental sometimes, but you can never reason with a drunk. Look at the influx of suburbanite and urbanite alcoholics that flock to 018 to drink. Its a different kind of police work, but its police work none-the-less.
not true he'll be in 011 that night...
2/21/2008 09:17:00 PM
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Just posting what I was told in roll call by the Capt.
Is today the day that Commander of TRU gets busted back down to Captain? Rumors are that he is on the outs with many. Maybe its spending too much time at his greek functions and never at work. BTW, why does a commander who "leads" a unit that works strait nights always working days?
No, he will go up not down, and he does work nights on the weekends and is out on the street, he is an exempt rank and must attend all their meetings, which are on days.
Kennedy and Gerogas are two of the most stand-up guys on this ....
By doing what, porking another Sgt.'s wife.
That says alot about a man's character.
I think that Sgt. should find Chris K and slapp his ass around.
He's a pretty boy, and a pussy.
Had words with him one time, and he pussied up.
I slo worked for Georgas...
He, my man, is a tool trying to make a name for himself.
Print It!!
yeah it's funny how you bash and name people on here talking tough but fail to leave your name...
"He probably worked in 014. Getting a supervisor to type out an honorable mention is like pulling teeth. Other districts they hand them out like water."
Boy is that true. Remember the Mambo King Velez shooting down dozens of Awards, telling Officers "that's your job". Jealous Punk personified that's all he ever amounted to.
You people are bitter! Hey the Clout works for me so go pound sand asshats. I like you guys and gals you allow me to get a better deal so either leave or shut the F up. Im here to take care of myself and my family. We all have great jobs and you college pukes make me laugh. What a waste of your time, money and your degree.
The academy has the best POs teaching and yes they do work full 8 hour days. Most have been selected to work there. Get a life! The ADS had values that you asshats wouldnt understand. He is going nowhere.
Our academy is great hows comes all of the suburbs get trained there then?
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Just wondering if anyone with actual insight might know when another Sgt's class will be made and if so how many??
2/21/2008 02:59:00 PM
merit picks due today, that means about 4-5 weeks till a list comes out.
Vote out the FOP Slate!! And BTW Get the plat number of the SGT that likes to drive his kid to school. That would be a nice anonymous note to the new Supt and the media. That sgt is using taxpayer dollars to help his kid. What kind of BS is this!!!!! It is illegal and unethical. Mr.SUPT investigate now.
You are a IDIOT......
He probably worked in 014. Getting a supervisor to type out an honorable mention is like pulling teeth. Other districts they hand them out like water.
2/21/2008 09:54:00 PM
Supervisors must not like you much there kid. Try not stepping on your dick too much. They give out honorable mentions in 014 like they're going out of style!
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Anonymous said...
I was perusing the Department website yesterday and stumbled upon Matt Tobias' resume on the Academy page. In his illustrious career he has received a whopping one, count'em ONE, department commendation and like 40 honorable mentions. Obviously his merit exempt spots weren't based on his police work. Sad.
2/21/2008 12:35:00 PM
Most awards on this job are BS.
2/21/2008 08:28:00 PM
THAT DOES NOT MEAN SHIT! I WAS GIVEN THE 50 HONORABLE MENTION RIBBON AND CERTICATE AND A CAPS PROBLEM SOLOVING AWARD AND THEY WERE NEVER PUT IN MY JACKET. THE SYSTEM IS NOT THE BEST, IN REGARDS TO MATT HIS MAKING IT TO THE TOP ONLY GOES TO PROVE THAT THE WORKING POLICE CAN MAKE IT TO THE TOP...
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You people are bitter! Hey the Clout works for me so go pound sand asshats. I like you guys and gals you allow me to get a better deal so either leave or shut the F up. Im here to take care of myself and my family. We all have great jobs and you college pukes make me laugh. What a waste of your time, money and your degree.
2/22/2008 06:37:00 AM
Taking exams and hard work has worked for me jagnuts. I have less (much) than 3 bars on my sleeve and I'll put money on the table that I outrank you. I may work in Patrol but I make more pensionable $ and never had to kiss any pee pee in my career. Clout is what makes this operation a joke. Now go lick some politician's asshole clean you undignified Clown.
""a lot fairer?" you should be the last to complain about any test"
what a goofy comment! unless I was a Clout baby (and I'm not) and you were standing next to me and watched as I typed my comment in - why in the world would you make this comment? You don't even know who I am...
I am so tired of all the bs from p.o.s who can't take a test. I have no clout. I come from a district. I studied my ass of and as a result I scored in the top 20. So all you guys and gals who say the fix is in take my advice and study. Stop being like dude blaming everyone else for your short comings.
2/21/2008 07:31:00 PM
WOW!!! YOU ARE IGNORANT!!!! WHAT RACE OF PEOPLE ARE YOU REFERRING TOO WHEN YOU SAY
"LIKE DUDE" em! you must be racist whitey
cry me an F'n river! Please, please dont even try to say you guys have it bad there ok....please.
For the amount of guns and burglars and stick up men the south side coppers get in a year could make a north side guy's career. I've personally locked up four people for murder, all separate cases and haven't got much more then Tobias to show for it. And lets not even get started on the guns, dope, hot cars and burglars..
Yeah you are the best,we are envious oh great one...please get over yourself, nobody cares, stay on the south side and step and fetch for teh people who appreciate it the least, p.s. we make the same money....
To everyone here! If you see someone use the company car for something other then company buisness then RAT that fucker OUT!!!! Before you say I am an asshole, check it out...insurance in case of an accident, city picks it up, god forbid, a child is hurt while they are taking them to school.... I see my tax bills, and everything else, and for the haters, you want me at the GJ!
maybe we'll rat you out then, you use a city car every day when impersonate a policeman.
You people are bitter! Hey the Clout works for me so go pound sand asshats. I like you guys and gals you allow me to get a better deal so either leave or shut the F up. Im here to take care of myself and my family. We all have great jobs and you college pukes make me laugh. What a waste of your time, money and your degree.
2/22/2008 06:37:00 AM
hey tricky dont hate because you will be stuck at sgt forever! hahahaha
Take you 2yr on the job ass and you strie for awards and stick it in your ass. Half the HM's are fukin paper jumped anyways by whole tact teams in whoich one car gota pinch and threw the rest of the team on there. Again all those words you apew prove yet again you need to dry the wetness from behind you ears and fix your feauhawk
2/21/2008 10:52:00 PM
the 5 year wonder is a little salty becuase he still doesnt have a DC and got written off a few nice pinches because he is too STUPID to know how not to let the blue jean police steal it from him. Relax, kid, 5 years doesnt make you a salty veteran just yet. Just relax, kid!
funny how every veteran you meet is an infantryman,
SO THATS IT! INFANTRYMEN MUST BE TAUGHT HOW TO BE LAZY, DO NOTHING, WORTHLESS PENSION SUCKING DOGS THAT CAN DO AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE AND CHEAT THE TAX PAYING CITIZENS OF CHICAGO OUT OF POLICE SERVICE EVERY DAY!
Might as well hang a sign out in front of every northside station that reads "closed--will open again at 3 o'clock pm".
Now go blow dry your hair, try and button up that shirt one more time (you havent been a xx large in YEARS fat boy) find your hole, cry about why the college educated people are the only ones who can be your boss, and realize the reason us educated mf'rs came here is to get ahead of people like you and run the show. (or atleast shape this place up and run you losers out!) So please follow your own advice... STOP BITCHING! And if being an infantryman was such great experience, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU WITH THIS LOWLY DEPARTMENT?
Jody, mandatory retirement at 55 PLEASE!!!
How many take home cars are at the Academy? Even POs get a take home cars-nice. That and less than 8 hour days.
**Take your meds cuz you are delusional!
off topic: i have taken about 5 test for sgt/det since i joined the chicago police department,25yrs ago..i get up early in the morning and drive down to lane hight school and im not scared, i just go there to see all the guys and girls i have not scene for a long time over the years,,i walk the long long lines and just bulllshit with everyone..my wife thinks im in the room really trying to pass this test, she is at home with the kid..well after the test..(im always the first one done) i go and wait in the lunch room and wait for more of the friends i have not scene in years...i love taking the test.and by the way i always finish in the top 1,000 and have never ever studied for a test..but i love going and talkin..i just can't wait for the next test.. I/F
Yea, thanks for almost making the ultimate sacrifice officer, we'll get around to you eventually...nice.....,
2/21/2008 11:54:00 PM
AMEN! Worked the south and west side for the whole time on the job, and its that way out west too!
HOWEVER, Look at our overtime checks in comparrison! I think we got over on some of them! (Cha-Ching!)
Anonymous said...
Coward is a word tossed around on here a lot. Look up it's meaning before using it. I don't remember ever hearing a police officer call another cop a coward until I saw it on here.
2/21/2008 10:51:00 PM
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Tell that to PERSONNEL!!!!!
PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ?
Take you 2yr on the job ass and you strie for awards and stick it in your ass. Half the HM's are fukin paper jumped anyways by whole tact teams in whoich one car gota pinch and threw the rest of the team on there. Again all those words you apew prove yet again you need to dry the wetness from behind you ears and fix your feauhawk
2/21/2008 10:52:00 PM
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I don't want to know your test scores nor do I want to know about your BEAT car experience. WHAT I DO WANT TO KNOW IS HOW THE HELL YOU TYPE WITH JUST YOUR THUMBS?
What language is this anyway
Our academy is great hows comes all of the suburbs get trained there then?
Hows comes????
Anonymous said...
How many take home cars are at the Academy? Even POs get a take home cars-nice. That and less than 8 hour days.
**Take your meds cuz you are delusional!
2/22/2008 03:49:00 PM
What take home cars? Even LTS do not have cars. Most of the cars used for recruits are in bad shape, 5 years old or more. Radios not used on street any more. 8 hour work days? For some staff, yes. Others sign in and play houdini. AC, where are you? Show your face sometime.
Anonymous said...
The academy has the best POs teaching and yes they do work full 8 hour days. Most have been selected to work there. Get a life! The ADS had values that you asshats wouldnt understand. He is going nowhere.
2/22/2008 06:38:00 AM
Ashat....Full 8 hours? maybe in your dreams. Sign in, workout 3 hours, go home. Or sign in, go home. Going nowhere but doing nothing. This 5 year wonder has seen enough. Why leave when I can relax? AC, where are you? PLEASE!!!
Yeah you are the best,we are envious oh great one...please get over yourself, nobody cares, stay on the south side and step and fetch for teh people who appreciate it the least, p.s. we make the same money....
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This officer wasn't saying he's the best just pointing out a truth about an unfair system. And as for making the same money, I doubt it. You get paid to go to court but then you'd probably not know that. And as for the guy who talked about summer nights in 018, oh please. Yea, you handle drunks like you guys did the night of the first Bull's Championship. You let Rush street get so out of hand that two hours later the whole city went up for grabs. Everyone saw you guys do nothing and then the poop hit the fan. Worked special in housing all last summer and never saw an 018th district car in the row houses or near the high rises. But take a walk down Rush street some day and you'll find 3/4's of the 018th district coppers. Saw one guy one night with his shirt unbuttoned, probably the top four or five buttons. He had a sleeveless T on and the gold chains hanging out for all to see. But the inspectors were probably in Englewood writing up a cooper for having exposed hand cuffs. Working special has really opened my eyes to just how lazy you north side coppers are. I'd love to see a real pay differential for coopers who work in working districts..10% of this department does all the work...Get rid of the 80% and pay the 20% their due...
This job used to be fun. Remember when Tobias used to fix his hair and walk just like Dart? That was fun. How come every greek family has a brother named Spiro? What's up with that? I took 5 sgt tests and I couldn't pass so I didn't bitch and moan. I just went and had the bars sewn on all my stuff. I KNEW no one was going to notice. I just showed up in 011 like 3 years ago. Everyone has been so nice to me. Hey Sarge this, Yo Sarge that. I can't write you a HM fast enough. Now I don't get the money OK. But nobody knows that but me. I do however get the respect. And it's fun. See, I take my fun where I find it. I learned that from Matt. I'm no Asshat. Cry your own F'n River!
2/23/2008 01:16:00 AM
I just went and had the bars sewn on all my stuff. I KNEW no one was going to notice. I just showed up in 011 like 3 years ago. Everyone has been so nice to me. Hey Sarge this, Yo Sarge that.
This guy is good..I think he deserves...and gets the 45 mins a day too.
I/F
2/22/2008 06:37:00 PM
Amen
The best apply and are accepted at training division. Difficult job with rewards. As a sgt, I am proud to be part of this great organization. Unique leadership, trained and motivated staff supplemented with latest equipment. MT will stay and lead us into the future. Most work more than 8 hour days. Attend training everywhere and provide the finest training in the state. Recruits receive the most up-to-date material possible. Open communication among units,with everyone having a voice in management. High level of ethics, and pride in the mission to train the finest. If you are interested, apply.
Might as well hang a sign out in front of every northside station that reads "closed--will open again at 3 o'clock pm".
Really, then tell me the powers that be over the years have been sending TRU, SOS, Gangs North, Gangs West and basically detailing them to South Side districts for the last 25 years. It looks like the southside coppers work only 1000 to 1300 hours on a good day.
Working special has really opened my eyes to just how lazy you north side coppers are. I'd love to see a real pay differential for coopers who work in working districts..
Why, No. side should get the pay differential. We have to pay top $ for housing, we can't by a trailer.
The best apply and are accepted at training division. Difficult job with rewards. As a sgt, I am proud to be part of this great organization. Unique leadership, trained and motivated staff supplemented with latest equipment. MT will stay and lead us into the future. Most work more than 8 hour days. Attend training everywhere and provide the finest training in the state. Recruits receive the most up-to-date material possible. Open communication among units,with everyone having a voice in management. High level of ethics, and pride in the mission to train the finest. If you are interested, apply.
Let's see...4 working at 10am today, 2 on the medical..That leaves just a few..That makes you a TROLL!!!!
to 2/21/08 7:54am posting AMEN! GET INVOLVED AND STOP BITCHING!
to the posting of 2/22/08 6:38am, obviously you don't know all of the academy instructors, some of whom are not assigned to the academy, but are from 35th st. clowns who don't know the're ass from a whole in the ground but are teaching classes critical to a p.o.'s knowledge base. they are'nt the best! just political nitwits!
Grau maybe council answers to his Purto Rican Sgt Female when she became Sgt (maybe). She has never been on the streets. Poetic Justice and now he is gone, Where is she going now?MMMMM
Inspectors are Lt put them in the districts. Those guys get paid all that money to insult the troops, talk down to them and who monitors them. Unit and Districts whould be responsible for their me and women. These guys can do whatever they want and nobody watches them. That is wrong. I hope the new boss will get new blood and get rid of the ones you have now, these guys think they are the Superintendent.
Fop these are the best group of guys representing us, they look after our rights, lets make sure we vote for them again.
Worked special in housing all last summer and never saw an 018th district car in the row houses or near the high rises.
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oh come on. you worked special and you saw the row houses? all I did was sleep and cruise the bars till the cars got taken away (for, you guessed it: sleeping and cruising the bars instead of being in the jets). gimme a break. and because a bunch of suburbanite assholes empty out into the street when there's nothing but bars on that street, how does that turn into the west side going up for grabs when there's maybe a single bar on the block, if that? think about it. 200 people leaving 20 bars is 4000 people all hitting the street at once on one block downtown. No one coulda controlled that... northside, southside, westside.. no one.
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