More Laws That Won't Work
- The NIU tragedy has renewed the gun control debate -- some lawmakers are pushing for tougher laws while gun rights advocates say more rules are not the answer. Mayor Richard M. Daley on Tuesday said he wants to introduce "common sense" procedures to reduce gun violence. He said the city will support the proposals, both in Springfield and in Washington, D.C. "The tragic deaths at Northern Illinois last week again are a fresh reminder," Daley said, of the need for tougher gun laws.
Unfortunately, the gunman at NIU followed every single one of the laws on the books before finally breaking the one that mattered most. And nothing stopped him. As we hear more and more about the run up to this incident, the signs were all there and no one who knew the gunman stepped up to take responsibility for getting him help. Recent articles and interviews are attempting to paint a false portrait of him as a victim and deflect the uncomfortable light shining on his friends and families as ignoring his need for intervention.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
126 Comments:
SUpe was at roll calls today how about a post about it.
Hey, let's make murder illegal. Then no one will do it.
ah, good thing I didnt drop any money on a prep class for the last Sgts exam... looks like Jody is calling it into question and they may dissolve the list entirely. I think that is an EXCEPTIONAL idea. I mean how coincedental is it the same people with the same names with the same clout in the same secretive study groups have done well time and time again on these tests? Chalk one up to all of us with no clout. Then again, maybe superlative police knowledge and excellent test taking skills just so happen to run in the Cline family. (but then again, if that were true, how could one Cline boy have such great and superior police knowledge he runs the top of detective lists, sergeants lists, gets to narcotics on his own merit, gets to A/4 on his own, gets to Fugitive Apprehension on his own, yet one of the EXACT SAME blood line has such bad police genes that he gets stuck up while more than half in the bag on the el??? hmmmm)
Finally, a promotional system that may work 80% of the time. Now we gotta work on the other 20%... FOP?! I will admit I didnt do so well on the last test. Not because I didnt prepare, but I just didnt score too well. I too have police brass in my gene pool... only with a different agency. So I guess it has to be CPD genes to be that much more intelligent. Ahhh thats it.
But now I have a second chance. Thanks, Jody. JOB WELL DONE!
ps sorry Jack, guess daddys clout wont help you this time around. Hows JISC by the way? hahaha
WORLD SITREP:
US FORCES ON HIGHEST ALERT SECURITY POSTURE IN SOUTH KOREA
***RAT BASTARD ALERT***
In 2005 a JCPENNY loss prevention guard ratted out coppers from 008, going as far as sending the videotape to corporate headquarters in Texas. You all remember the incident I'm sure. Well guess what, now he's CPD. Welcome to the job Gerardo Vega,(010)
you rat mother f*(^&&>. What comes around, goes around, you'll get yours one day. Any officer reading this take note, and if you see this guy utter the slightest obscenity at someone or handcuff too tightly or violate any of the rules and regs. then do the "right thing" and report his misconduct. Rumor is he was given the job for his promise to testify at the female officer's police board hearing.
Geez daley I thought handguns were banned in chicago already. did that stop 16 yr old drug dealers from shooting people with handguns? just another excuse for tricky dick to get on TV and swing his head back and forth like a wrecking ball foaming at the mouth about gun control. but I wonder why he has armed guards then? why dont they just carry tazers or cap guns with red flags that pop out and say "BANG"!!. laws that are useless for the citizen but has no effect on the criminals. but thats daleys "commom sense" for you.
Tonight "Big Mike" Bermingsham put FOP President in check while speaking to TRU about the state of affairs in FOP. He brought up the tough topics that Donahue clearly was trying to avoid. Mike you should run for office.
We'll follow you anywhere Mike!!!
-TRU officer
The reality is the only thing that will curb these incidents is stopping the media's fixation on them. Until the media stops spending weeks talking about the motive of the ex-boyfriend or mal-adjusted classmate etc. and starts simply reporting the fact that a deranged killer did xyz, the incentive to be a mass murderer will go on. Stop turning the killer into a post-mortem star, and the appeal will go too.
What is the real story about poor morale on 3rd watch in 006? I work in 006 on days and have noticed quite a bit of grumbling from a certain pretty boy from 3rd watch working the desk.
Now this young man has serious "juice", so if he is pissed about something, then it really is bad in 006!
I'm also hearing a certain huge Captain is tossing out spars to po's who look at him funny. What REALLY is going on? Maybe I'll stay on my watch and avoid the drama? Time for another beer...
As for Mike shields lets just say this. who wouldn't bitch about being dumped to midnights after transferring and getting on third watch. I know I would and the majority of assholes working for this department would also. So lay off you obviously have a hard on for him over nonesense. Im sure it won't be hard for anyone in 18 to figure out who you are. So why don't you sign your name since you so hell bent on destroying someone else so we all could know who you are ?
2/19/2008 08:25:00 PM
He has nothing to "bitch about" he went to 018 on a phone call and was always on 3rd watch by management! How else can a DC dump someone from 3rd watch to mids if he was not there on senority?
Lesson: If you transfer somwhere on your phone call, do your work to justify it! When you do not do shit, do not complain about it!
Have fun on Midnights Mikey
Jody hires the best man at his wedding as the chief of staff---isn't this the very thing that this jerkoff says that he's against?
Oh,it's OK though, he hunted the unabomber. Thanks for the 25 years of not getting anywhere close to catching the guy until his brother gave him up. Good work JACKASS.
When is Daley going try to run his own city and forget about running the state and country?
Maybe there shoild be a Mental Status on a state ID or DL with a list of the MEds that someone is taking. That might be helpful. Question what if the next major shooting is done by an Illegal Alien? Will the State crack down on them? Why punish legal US citizen who own guns and like to shoot?
"the last Sgts exam... looks like Jody is calling it into question..."
Why would Jodi take down the sergeant's exam? All the problems and nonsense happened with the leiutenant's exam?
J Fed was on Channel 11 at 6pm last night. Did well. Very impressive.
***RAT BASTARD ALERT***
In 2005 a JCPENNY loss prevention guard ratted out coppers from 008, going as far as sending the videotape to corporate headquarters in Texas. You all remember the incident I'm sure. Well guess what, now he's CPD. Welcome to the job Gerardo Vega,(010)
you rat mother f*(^&&>. What comes around, goes around, you'll get yours one day. Any officer reading this take note, and if you see this guy utter the slightest obscenity at someone or handcuff too tightly or violate any of the rules and regs. then do the "right thing" and report his misconduct. Rumor is he was given the job for his promise to testify at the female officer's police board hearing.
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Some coppers need to be 'ratted" out. I don't know about the incident in question, but if the cop needed 'ratting" out, he did the rest of us a favor. Cops should not be immune to following the rules like the rest of us.
how about if you are shooting someone or pointing a gun at someone or a group, anyone can shoot back and kill you w/out getting sued.
I know if a CPD officer taking classes that day shot this guy, his family would be suing and the city would settle.
CPD - "NO MORE PATRONAGE"
JODY WEIS the FBI taking over the Chicago Police Department under career FBI agent Jody Weis? Not by a long shot. But, there's another former G-man at the top.
JODY IS DOING WHAT EVERY OTHER BOSS HAS DONE IN THE PAST - HIRE AND PUT HIS BUDDIES IN.
***RAT BASTARD ALERT***
In 2005 a JCPENNY loss prevention guard ratted out coppers from 008, going as far as sending the videotape to corporate headquarters in Texas. You all remember the incident I'm sure. Well guess what, now he's CPD. Welcome to the job Gerardo Vega,(010)
you rat mother f*(^&&>. What comes around, goes around, you'll get yours one day. Any officer reading this take note, and if you see this guy utter the slightest obscenity at someone or handcuff too tightly or violate any of the rules and regs. then do the "right thing" and report his misconduct. Rumor is he was given the job for his promise to testify at the female officer's police board hearing.
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Why would they hire a guy like this? Oh wait, they want to hire police haters, to move em up and ruin this job.
I don't know the stoy, please explain.
What a strange coincidence. The new supes best friend and chief of staff worked for the CTA at the same time as Bea Cuello. Now they both have big spots with the CPD. Im sure they didnt know each other though.
2:46am
There's nothing going on in 006. 006 is the same as it ever was. You can finish your suds and come over to the Darkside (3rd) anytime.
"Guns! guns! when do we get guns!"
-Tackleberry
Maybe Daley and his buddies should read Ted Nugent's book God, Guns, and Rock and Roll! Great book
***RAT BASTARD ALERT***
Is this the dickhead who testified to the police board that he never saw a beating so bad and was ashamed to be a police officer? What a fucking rat motherfucker.
Oh,it's OK though, he hunted the unabomber. Thanks for the 25 years of not getting anywhere close to catching the guy until his brother gave him up. Good work JACKASS.
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How long would it take you to catch the unabomber Jackass?
ah, good thing I didnt drop any money on a prep class for the last Sgts exam... looks like Jody is calling it into question and they may dissolve the list entirely.
Since you apparently arent smart enought to pass a test you agree with taking the list down. But contrary to popular belief there are some people that study and go to the PAY study groups and do well. So how is it fair to them to take the list down. This sends a message that go ahead put long hours in studying, do well on the test and it will all be for nothing because the city wants a new list.
Tonight "Big Mike" Bermingsham put FOP President in check while speaking to TRU about the state of affairs in FOP. He brought up the tough topics that Donahue clearly was trying to avoid. Mike you should run for office.
We'll follow you anywhere Mike!!!
-TRU officer
2/20/2008 01:55:00 AM
Why don't you follow Big Mike off a cliff? Members of phone call units putting real labor leaders in check......hahaha that's funny.
just read in the trib that killer removed sim card from his cell phone and also took hard drive out of his computer. not a detective, but to me this means that other people knew what the prick was going to do and didn't go to authorities. concealed carry works down south, why not up here. everyone has the constitutional right to bear arms. i know that many of my fellow officers are against concealed carry and i understand why, but if it was my kid in that study hall i would like to think that he would have been able to somehow defend himself other that running for the nearest door.
Have fun on Midnights Mikey
2/20/2008 04:23:00 AM
Glad to see 018 is still full of management suck ups. Georgas must really enjoy it.
"Maybe there shoild be a Mental Status on a state ID or DL with a list of the MEds that someone is taking. That might be helpful."
Helpful for who?
Police already have a too high of a suicide rate. Now you want to expose who's taking medication to the state and make their FOID card dependent on the results?
How many cops will go underground and not get mental health treatment?
Not to mention, how defense attorneys could use the information-taking or not taking drugs-to win their court cases when there is a shooting, traffic accident or 'brutality' beef.
HIPPA protects us too.
This gun shit is getting old. On a different subject, did anyone see Chicago Police Detective Wayne Harej with his cardboard protest sign outside of FOP yesterday? It was truly awesome. He looked like a homeless guy holding a sign drawn by a first grader. Lucky for Wayne, he has lots of blubber to keep him warm on these cold days. His lacky Harold Brown was busy inside claiming that he wasn't fired from the store for stealing. Thing is, Harold never told us exactly why he was fired. What gives, old man? Why not tell everyone why you don't work at the store any more? Do it here. I'll call you out if you lie about it.
SCC:
Check out this article from BBC online about planned changes to British immigration policy:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/
politics/7253933.stm
Here's part of the article:
BRITISH CITIZENSHIP TESTS PLANNED
Wednesday, 20 February 2008, 16:11 GMT
Immigrants who want to become British and settle permanently in the UK will need to pass more tests to "prove their worth" to the country under new plans.
Some migrants may also have to pay into a fund towards public services and have a period of "probationary citizenship". Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the UK should expect a "demonstration of commitment" and the process of becoming a citizen should be "more exacting".
Unveiling the proposals, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said future migrants would need to "earn" citizenship. This scraps the current system which allows people to apply for naturalisation on the basis of how long they have lived in the UK. Ms Smith said migrants from outside the European Economic Area would be encouraged to "move on" through a system that leads to citizenship - or choose ultimately to leave the country.
The package of measures includes:
* Raising visa fees for a special "transitional impact" fund
* More English language testing ahead of nationality
* Requirements to prove integration into communities
* Increasing how long it takes to become British
Too novel a concept to be implemented here, though.
SCC. FYI
http://www.aspentimes.com/article/2008198091324
Off Topic but quite amusing. In Berkley, CA the city councilman that have denied the police from carrying a taser are now backpedaling after a p.o. shot a broad wielding a knife. Funny part of it is the head of the NAACP had to say about it.
Allen Jackson, the president of the Berkeley branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said he doesn't see Tasers as being an alternative for police.
"Especially since they have proven to be lethal," he said.
Meanwhile, he said the Berkeley branch of the NAACP is calling for a federal investigation to determine whether the civil rights of Gay were violated. In a statement released Monday, the group said a "non-lethal method of apprehension could have been applied" to Gay.
"However, it is apparent that the only thing in the mind of a Berkeley police officer is to kill any African-American that they can," the statement said.
Both Gay and the officer who shot her are African-American.
Saturday's deadly shooting began to unfold about 6:40 p.m. when police were called to the 1700 block of Ward Street following reports of someone breaking windows. Police found a broken window at a residence next door to Gay's but no incident in progress and left.
Called back at 8 p.m., police found Gay on her porch with a knife and proceeded to "challenge her at gunpoint," Kusmiss said. Neighbors said Gay appeared intoxicated and may have been drinking or on prescription medication.
Then, Kusmiss said, Gay's two daughters came outside and Gay waved the knife at them.
So according to this douche if someone is waving a knife we should just use verbal judo, or maybe some pressure points. God forbid we defend ourselves out there.
The full link http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=40292
Damn IT, 2/20/2008 12:43:00 AM, you ratted my DNA out!
I was SOOO hoping to make Leftenant an show those 010 District f*ckers how it's suppose to be done for at most a period before movin on to Hoe Man Squared. Daddy didn't tell me da prevailing winds was gonna blow me like dis. Doesn't think I can relax my throat enough to move up on my own merit alone now. Me sad:(
P.S., Keep my Brougham Jackie out of dis, he good peoples when sober.
Just wondering, if this guy is the chief of staff, what do the 1st deputy do for a living?????
Gerardo is in the right place(010)...Vick will do the trick!
Why does concealed carry have to be concealed?
To bad we have democrats running this state, the below listed law should be adopted here. VOTE REPUBLICIAN!
Castle Doctrine/"Stand Your Ground" Legislation~SB 378 by Senator Jeff Wentworth (R-San Antonio)/Rep. Joe Driver (R-Garland)
This legislation puts the protection of the law where it belongs: with the law abiding, not the law breaking. If a criminal unlawfully enters or intrudes into your home, occupied vehicle, or place of business, you can presume that he is there to cause death or great bodily harm and you may use any manner of force, including deadly force, against him. The bill also explicitly states in law that you have no "duty to retreat" from a criminal attack if you are in any place you have a right to be and you are not engaged in unlawful activity. Last, the proposal would limit the ability of criminals and their families to sue victims for killing or injuring their attackers. This was signed into law by Governor Perry, the first bill signed into law this legislative session! It will go into effect on September 1, 2007.
To the guy talking about jody getting rid of the sgt list:
Just b/c you didn't score high enough don't think that everyone that did "got the answers." I have no clout and no nobody on the job and i put my whole life on hold for the few months before the exams and just lived and breathed those general orders and practice exams. I tried as hard as i possibly could have, and i ended up scoring ok. I have a really good shot at making it, but i need that list to stay up for a while. Do you think it's fair to a person like me for jody to tear that list down? Did you really make an effort like i did? Or did you half ass study and then like to come on here and bitch that everyone else that scored better than you MUST have had the answers? There are a lot of people that i'm sure studied harder than you and you might not like to hear this, but are also smarter. That's just the facts. So next time you come on here spewing your crap about cronyism and blood lines, i ask that you remember there are also a lot of people like me on that list.
I only wish i worked in 010 with that p.o.s. Vega. What a rat MF'er. Hope some days he gets himself into a bind and then see how many people come to help him out. Piece of garbage that guy is.
From today's Sun Times
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/803276,CST-NWS-weis20.article
More feds in the CPD!
The good Mayor Daley should take the lead in his gun control attempt by disarming his 50 Aldermen who have given themselves the authority to carry a conceled firearm without any instruction. 50 loose cannons running around the city armed!!!!
Jody hires the best man at his wedding as the chief of staff---isn't this the very thing that this jerkoff says that he's against?
It's the same thing every other Supe has done; suuround yourself with good people that you know and are loyal, no surprises here..
Tonight "Big Mike" Bermingsham put FOP President in check while speaking to TRU about the state of affairs in FOP. He brought up the tough topics that Donahue clearly was trying to avoid. Mike you should run for office.
We'll follow you anywhere Mike!!!
-TRU officer
His name is Mike Birmingham. I don't know that he put him in his place by any means but he definitely did ask him the tough questions, which I think were answered for the most part. You will never make everyone happy. Sorry guys there will be no 10 or 12 hr. days, 6 and 3 looks like the most feasible alternative.
I worked the 10 hour day in 017. It was the best year I've had working on the CPD.
2/13/2008 11:48:00 AM
REAL TOUGH IN 017...U MUST OF SLEPT YOUR ENTIRE SHIFT...
signed 020 district park car
Let's make a deal Mayor Munchkin: you give up your armed bodyguards and I'll leave my gun at home when I'm in the City? Deal you fat prick?
That sanctimonious bastard talks out of both sides of his mouth, among other orifices. I'd be happy to be unarmed in the City, too, if I had CPD babysitting me.
And while we are addressing Himself, it's OK for him to question Laski's "personal demons", but when somebody questions his son's sweetheart deal with the City, he gets to choke up and plays the patriot card. Fuck you. Let's not forget, Patrick did not like Westpoint when some other poor, deserving prick undoubtedly got passed over so Richie's boy could get the appointment.
Seems he manages to deflect all personal responsibility by turning on the waterworks. Remember when Patrick bashed some kids head in in Michigan with a bat? Mayor Mumbles turns on the waterworks, gets all choked up and the fucking housemouse media in this City let's it go. You duplicitous fuck. Maybe if Mike Mette cried more, he'd get a better deal.
Go pray as many Ave's as you can stutter through, Richie, for when your judgment day comes, wrought iron fences and greenspace are not going to cut any ice.
Maybe the next time he takes after someon, they cry, talk about their dead son, and we'll see if Napoleon backs off. I doubt it; he'd rather scrootin' everyone else than clean his own fucking house. You fucking bastard.
There were 29,569 firearm related deaths in 2004. This figure includes homicides, suicides, accidental, and police related. This number fluctuates yearly. Yet annually over 40k people die on our roads by means of motor vehicle crashes. I guess over 40k killed yearly is an acceptable body count by the liberals. Remember Richard Speck killed 8 nurses with a knife.
Sam Bass
Hey! Check out the photo in today's Tribune, Sect. 2, p. 7.
Who are those two stud detectives escorting their serial rapist-murderer prisoner Paul Bryant (no relation to "Bear"--the late Alabama football coach) into the old Area 6?
Dey sho' look like da REAL mutherfuckin' PO-leece!
i know this has absolutely NOTHING to do with this post .. but rumor has former A.D.S. Tobias handed in his papers and will retire after a little over 21yrs on the job..
kinda sad to see that in this case the "father" is paying for the sins of the sons.. ..
anybody know if there's any truth to this or not ???
ah, good thing I didnt drop any money on a prep class for the last Sgts exam... looks like Jody is calling it into question and they may dissolve the list entirely. I think that is an EXCEPTIONAL idea. I mean how coincedental is it the same people with the same names with the same clout in the same secretive study groups have done well time and time again on these tests? Chalk one up to all of us with no clout. Then again, maybe superlative police knowledge and excellent test taking skills just so happen to run in the Cline family. (but then again, if that were true, how could one Cline boy have such great and superior police knowledge he runs the top of detective lists, sergeants lists, gets to narcotics on his own merit, gets to A/4 on his own, gets to Fugitive Apprehension on his own, yet one of the EXACT SAME blood line has such bad police genes that he gets stuck up while more than half in the bag on the el??? hmmmm)
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Hey retard you don't need clout to get into a study grooup jackass. just some balls to drop some of you hard earned $$ on something usefull rather than the star chaser at Dugans
I bet the percentage of those who did well with clout to those who did well by just the group is less than 5%.
I love all you clout hating fucks. I have zero clout, but do know people who have been promoted off tests. You think knowing someone who has taken numerous promotion tests and has scored well isn't an asset. You think they don't help........GET FUCKED ON DISMANTLING THE LIST. FOR 95% of us who did put in the hard work and it paid off it would be demmoralizing. JUST RID THE 20% MERITORIOUS. Take it down to 5. You need to have some meritorious.....Some great bosses would never be if there wasn't because they don't test well. A test shouldn't be the ultimate decision make in any position.
I bet this time your dumb ass will be taking a study group so yo don't fail yet again.
Study group member #32
We've banned guns in Chicago and have many laws on the books regulating ownership and use. Has it made a difference? Would conceal and carry stop what happened at NIU? No, I do not think so as he wanted to die, so if someone shot him it would not have mattered. BUT I think crime would change. A criminal would think twice about commiting a crime if he/she thought their victim could possibly be armed. So do we have any stats on cities who do allow conceal and carry and has it made a difference? Would the Wild Wild West come to life? I do agree that passing more laws is not going to prevent what happened at NIU. It was just a move to console us that "something" was being done although ineffective.
1:55am
It's BIRMINGHAM you schmuck! He doesn't give a rat's ass about you, so go blow!!!
off subject:
FBI and IG is looking into some one from the 19th ward selling promotions thru the ward for police and fire promotions..
Fire Capt called the CFD union seeking legal repreaentation on Friday. Out of luck for representation but I hope this is true since there are only four civil service legit sergeants in all of 022.
one down 2 to go in 007. who's shaking now
Working the unabomber case certainly wouldn't be the reason to hire someone as the new fed said was one of the reasons you stupid JACKASS
Attention!!!! Per a new General Order 08-01 the Riordan Headquarters Building will now be referred to as Club FedEx. That is all.
J-FED hires his best friend for the chied of staff? I thought thats what he was against. same shit different names. this will never end here. you mean to tell me there was nobody else out there qualified in cpd or even another agency. it just so happens this guy is his friend too?
nice to see some poloticians doing the right thing for once.
BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (WLS) -- A new gas station in Bolingbrook is allowed to sell any gasoline it wants as long as it's not Citgo.
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Bolingbrook officials say little compensation was given to the company when Venezuela took over Citgo, so Citgo gasoline won't be sold in their town. They say the developer of the
ah, good thing I didnt drop any money on a prep class for the last Sgts exam... looks like Jody is calling it into question and they may dissolve the list entirely. I think that is an EXCEPTIONAL idea.============================
not so sherlock, already put in the first class of the list and will see this list through because of time and expense. What he really should do is examine the merit picks and the amount of merit picks allowed. He should also check where the merits are coming from, esp. the specialized units, which usually, not always, stink of clout and nepotism. If anything, the Lt. exam was one big examscam and should be looked over a second time for true validity. That's the test that should be scrapped.
We have been friends for 22yrs & HE WAS THE BEST MAN AT MY WEDDING.Is this Fuck for real??
Does Seiser like guns?
ah, good thing I didnt drop any money on a prep class for the last Sgts exam... looks like Jody is calling it into question and they may dissolve the list entirely. I think that is an EXCEPTIONAL idea. I mean how coincedental is it the same people with the same names with the same clout in the same secretive study groups have done well time and time again on these tests? Chalk one up to all of us with no clout. Then again, maybe superlative police knowledge and excellent test taking skills just so happen to run in the Cline family. (but then again, if that were true, how could one Cline boy have such great and superior police knowledge he runs the top of detective lists, sergeants lists, gets to narcotics on his own merit, gets to A/4 on his own, gets to Fugitive Apprehension on his own, yet one of the EXACT SAME blood line has such bad police genes that he gets stuck up while more than half in the bag on the el??? hmmmm)
Finally, a promotional system that may work 80% of the time. Now we gotta work on the other 20%... FOP?! I will admit I didnt do so well on the last test. Not because I didnt prepare, but I just didnt score too well. I too have police brass in my gene pool... only with a different agency. So I guess it has to be CPD genes to be that much more intelligent. Ahhh thats it.
But now I have a second chance. Thanks, Jody. JOB WELL DONE!
HEY ASSHOLE J FED SAID NO SUCH THING, IN HIS INTERVIEW HE SAID HE WAS LOOKING AT MAKING THE PROCESS FAIR NNEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT RIPPING THE LIST DOWN
STOP SPREADING THIS YOU LOSER!
Tobias was at the ceremony today 20 Feb 08 to enshrine 5 more stars in the retired case in the lobby. If he did hand in the papers, it hasn't taken effect yet.
I worked the 10 hour day in 017. It was the best year I've had working on the CPD.
2/13/2008 11:48:00 AM
REAL TOUGH IN 017...U MUST OF SLEPT YOUR ENTIRE SHIFT...
signed 020 district park car
Is that you JB goof???
Fire Capt called the CFD union seeking legal repreaentation on Friday. Out of luck for representation but I hope this is true since there are only four civil service legit sergeants in all of 022.
2/20/2008 04:41:00 PM
YOU'RE HIGH!! You claim there are only 4 legit Sgt's in 022?? I'd love to know where you get your information!
I'm sick of having to suffer stupid political hacks for bosses. The Wonderlic multiple choice, fifty-item intelligence test has its world headquarters in north suburban Libertyville.
Would it be asking too much to have this TWELVE MINUTE, standardized test administered to the entire CPD from Supt. Weis on down to the newest PPO with immediate scoring.
Albeit, it is but one factor. However, we must cull the herd.
Don't be surprised if a disproportionate number of the highest scorers come from the ranks of sergeants and below. Conversely, don't be shocked if some exempts test out as imbeciles.
Mathematical probabilty suggests that an estimated 250 members of the CPD would qualify for Mensa (IQ scores at or above the 98th percentile).
This would be a valid and reliable method to identify many of our brightest human resources who are overlooked
due to clout (aka "merit") and rigged "testing".
See www.wonderlic.com
BOO-HOO! Morale is bad in 006~what the fuck asshole, its like all over this damn dept!
NorthSide said...
Hey! Check out the photo in today's Tribune, Sect. 2, p. 7.
Who are those two stud detectives escorting their serial rapist-murderer prisoner Paul Bryant (no relation to "Bear"--the late Alabama football coach) into the old Area 6?
Dey sho' look like da REAL mutherfuckin' PO-leece!
2/20/2008 03:15:00 PM
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Biebel and Jones, two of the great ones...
What's the difference between Jody giving hs FBI pals plush jobs and our lil retarded hypocrit mayor doing the same?
Who is the CHICKEN "I'm Skarred" sgt in 019 who beefed on a PO from 011? All over a parking ticket issued by a J/O po. More to it but, can't we all just get along?
ah, good thing I didnt drop any money on a prep class for the last Sgts exam... looks like Jody is calling it into question and they may dissolve the list entirely.
Hey goof! What the fuck are you talking about...
Back on topic. Why is it that every time a shooting like this occurs, our illustrious mayor blames the NRA? It's not the NRA shooting up innocent people.It's not the NRA committing robberies or shooting up a rival dope spot. It's felons.Well guess what, the NRA is against felons having guns.There's reasonable gun control right there.As for this latest idiot, he lied on the form for the background check which makes him a felon. I say you should support reasonable, common sense gun control, just like the NRA.
How come the new First Deputy was not standing with the Mayor and the new Superintendent during the big gun announcement/press conference? What happened to our community/police spokesperson position? I also heard that CAPS is not going to be under the First Deputy's Office anymore since G.E.D. Dana Starks took that job when Cline thought he took all of his power, used it to his advantage and got a big city job for making the Mayor look good. He had no idea that he gave him more power than he even had. Now I hear today that the New Superintendent is taking CAPS and putting it somewhere within the ranks of the department.
If that is true, what does the First Deputy's office do, the transfer order, what else? That office still has no power. Patrol is under Patrol. What else do they do? Another figure head and this time with no real power.
civilian here, what is the audi home? what does nolly mean?
with j-fed like ive been saying and no one has been listening MEET THE NEW BOSS SAME AS THE OLD BOSS!!! and my hero John Burge would have caught the unibomber before lunch
Anonymous said...
Hey, let's make murder illegal. Then no one will do it.
2/20/2008 12:32:00 AM
Yup,and if we add the death penalty then nobody will do it for sure.
Some coppers need to be 'ratted" out. I don't know about the incident in question, but if the cop needed 'ratting" out, he did the rest of us a favor. Cops should not be immune to following the rules like the rest of us.
2/20/2008 08:55:00 AI sure hope ur not the police. RAT
Just picked up my LMT M4 AR15...sweet!
Gun registration is but a pretext to confiscation.
Since the NIU incident has become a debate about gun laws, and since SCC has clearly staked out a position, I would like to ask a question or two.
1) If you dial back the "anti gun laws" and make it easier for people to get a pistol - how does that make everyone safer? It is certainly true that certain "elements" in this City seem to be able to get a gun out of the trunk of some a-hole's car willy nilly. Why make it easier on the illegal wep dealer? Why should you be able to buy a pistol at WalMart? at Dominick's? at a Shell Gas Station?
2) Let me start this one by saying, when I see the police with a sidearm - I feel safe. This is because, as far as I know, you Pol-leeses are trained, quite well, in the handling of your sidearm - and presumably hit what you aim at. My neighbor is a shaky drunk - how am I safer if he is rolling, armed and happy? Since we are being topical - I can't imagine any of my college professors handling a pistol in a heated moment - what good would putting a gun in their hand do?
3) Finally, if the argument that being armed (legally or not) makes you safe from violence is true - why is it that so many gangbangers are getting shot? They and their ilk are all strapped - how come no deterrent?
Just thought I would ask - I only ask that if you respond - don't talk to me about Mr. Lott's book.
I believe you had a link to Anne Coulter's website at one time listed on your blog. Please take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTqgqhxVMc&feature=related
2/20/2008 05:30:00 AM
Oh,it's OK though, he hunted the unabomber. Thanks for the 25 years of not getting anywhere close to catching the guy until his brother gave him up. Good work JACKASS.
Somebody's been watching The Wire a week early...
*** off the topic ***
FOP Ballots get mailed out this weekend.
anonymous said...
Have fun on Midnights Mikey
2/20/2008 04:23:00 AM
Glad to see 018 is still full of management suck ups. Georgas must really enjoy it.
2/20/2008 10:59:00 AM
Handle this nonsense in-house will ya? Leave it off the blog. Thanks. 018 Dist PO
anonymous said...
civilian here, what is the audi home? what does nolly mean?
2/20/2008 10:17:00 PM
The audi home is a juvenile correction facility- jail for bad kids.
Nolie is short for nolie prosequi, which means that the state decided not to prosecute. Extremely common. If you are going to do a crime, do it here!
A guy from 020 (the park car no less) blasting a guy from 017...too funny, kind of like the pot calling the kettle.........FREE MIKE METTE!
what are people gonna blame when clout is eliminated, i guess its a good thing in a way, after all the smoke has cleared then maybe people will point those critical fingers at themselves with no one else to blame. i believe its called blame deflection.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
with j-fed like ive been saying and no one has been listening MEET THE NEW BOSS SAME AS THE OLD BOSS!!! and my hero John Burge would have caught the unibomber before lunch
2/20/2008 10:30:00 PM
Or he would have tortured someone into to saying they were. Get a new hero dude I been on this job long enough to have worked for that guy. He is a big reason we are where we are right now, DNA does not lie.
Anonymous said...
civilian here, what is the audi home? what does nolly mean?
2/20/2008 10:17:00 PM
tHE aUDI HOME IS IN SCHAMBURG. bEST LITTLE GERMAN CAR MONEY CAN BUY. nOLLY MEANS THAT A PERSON HAS MASTURBATED TO AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT AND IT BECAME A NOLLIE. hOPE THAT HELPS. sGT nORTHSIDE
Tobias is gone. Put in his papers on the 19th and told his hockey playing friends that he has no regrets, Good luck ADS
Anonymous said...
Since the NIU incident has become a debate about gun laws, and since SCC has clearly staked out a position, I would like to ask a question or two.
1) If you dial back the "anti gun laws" and make it easier for people to get a pistol - how does that make everyone safer? It is certainly true that certain "elements" in this City seem to be able to get a gun out of the trunk of some a-hole's car willy nilly. Why make it easier on the illegal wep dealer? Why should you be able to buy a pistol at WalMart? at Dominick's? at a Shell Gas Station?
2) Let me start this one by saying, when I see the police with a sidearm - I feel safe. This is because, as far as I know, you Pol-leeses are trained, quite well, in the handling of your sidearm - and presumably hit what you aim at. My neighbor is a shaky drunk - how am I safer if he is rolling, armed and happy? Since we are being topical - I can't imagine any of my college professors handling a pistol in a heated moment - what good would putting a gun in their hand do?
3) Finally, if the argument that being armed (legally or not) makes you safe from violence is true - why is it that so many gangbangers are getting shot? They and their ilk are all strapped - how come no deterrent?
1. How stupid are you? Nobody suggested selling guns at a gas station. As far as purchasing guns at Walmart or a grocery/general store, that is more than common in most of the USA. You must never make it outside of the corporate city limits,travel abit and absorb some culture you idiot.
2. You are obviously a civilian if you think that your neighbor is incapable of handling a firearm. Anyone can become proficient with a firearm,most sport shooters shoot better than the police and are expert marksman. I am truly glad that you buy into the smoke and mirrors, feeling safe by seeing a policeman,if you only knew what we know. Alcoholism is epidemic within the police and military ranks,FYI.
3. Gangbangers are shot because they live by the adage,live by the sword die by the sword. If you play Russian roulette you will get shot,if you run in front of trains you will get run over. If you carry a gun to rob,kill and injure others you will get the same in return. If you carry a gun to protect yourself and others you will be left in peace. You really are an idiot of the highest order or I apologize,a 5th grader conducting research.
Here is a lesson for the idiot, a gun is a thing. A gun is a piece of cold metal fabricated to expel a projectile. A gun is inanimate and will never do anything by its own accord,it can be left in the same place for a hundred years and will not move or shoot.
In the hands of a violent,evil,immoral and unethical human a gun can cause injury and death. A pack of matches in these same hands is capable of killing thousands of innocent people. When do we ban all packs of matches?
REAL TOUGH IN 017...U MUST OF SLEPT YOUR ENTIRE SHIFT...
signed 020 district park car
2/20/2008 02:57:00 PM
Like you deserve to comment. I did over 5 periods in austin, dawg.
16th Commando and proud of it
12:12 AM (Al Koholik)
We tried to get you to go to rehab but you said "No-No-No".
anonymous said...
Jody hires the best man at his wedding as the chief of staff---isn't this the very thing that this jerkoff says that he's against? . . .
2/20/2008 05:30:00 AM
Seems to me that most people would hire a friend in the position of chief of staff -- I mean, why would he want someone he hardly knows advising him in that capacity? I sure wouldn't.
anonymous said...
What's the difference between Jody giving hs FBI pals plush jobs and our lil retarded hypocrit mayor doing the same?
2/20/2008 09:08:00 PM
Maybe Jody's friends are actually smart?
"Just thought I would ask - I only ask that if you respond - don't talk to me about Mr. Lott's book.
2/20/2008 10:55:00 PM"
1. It's not that being armed, with any kind of additional weapon(s) to your hands, arms, legs, feet and, for those so equipped, a hard head, will guarantee your safety, it's that having a greater potential force at hand gives you the option of using that greater force, should you need it to overcome an attack on your person of greater force than you have to respond with.
That's why firearms are called 'equalizers'.
2. Can you imagine yourself "...handling a pistol in a heated moment..."?
Have you pondered the answer to your question of "...what good would putting a gun in their hand do?" by asking the question "...what good would putting a gun in YOUR hand do?"?
Have you thought about this question by considering someone OTHER than your neighbor, the 'shaky drunk' or your 'college professors' or 'the police'?
3. I have confidence that you are intelligent enough to know some of the answers to this question; here are several, by no means all inclusive:
Once again, being armed doesn't ensure or insure anyone's safety, but, an aggressor's being armed does greatly increase YOUR peril, should you encounter said aggressor, and YOUR being armed can greatly increase your ability to reduce your peril or respond to an aggressor's attempt to harm you.
If you had the gift of verbal persuasion, if you were capable of 'talking your way' out of said peril, being armed would not detract from your ability to choose to NOT use deadly force, but being armed would provide you with the ability to use your 'arms', should you need to do so to stay alive.
Have you given much thought to the fact that the word 'gangbangers' is a simple, and, perhaps, somewhat accurate, description of other, individual human beings?
Have you pondered what the daily living experiences of these 'gangbangers' may be?
Their individual, similar and common perspectives?
Their individual, unique and personal perspectives?
The dynamics of their daily lives, their motivations, attitudes and shared 'philosophies' all supply clues as to why, presuming your premise is true, 'gun-totting gangbangers' die in greater numbers proportional to their population.
Why do citizens of countries go to war, and for what reasons?
Why do citizens within the same country kill each other, and for what 'reasons'?
Why do cops bear arms?
Why do some, to many, cops support the citizen's right to keep and bear arms?
Do cops know things, about the realities of life, that leads them to conclude that the citizens, as a whole, would be benefited by not having their rights to keep and bear arms infringed upon?
And, finally, why is it that we seem to place a higher value on 'statistical evidence' over 'anecdotal evidence'?
Anonymous said...
How come the new First Deputy was not standing with the Mayor and the new Superintendent during the big gun announcement/press conference? What happened to our community/police spokesperson position? I also heard that CAPS is not going to be under the First Deputy's Office anymore since G.E.D. Dana Starks took that job when Cline thought he took all of his power, used it to his advantage and got a big city job for making the Mayor look good. He had no idea that he gave him more power than he even had. Now I hear today that the New Superintendent is taking CAPS and putting it somewhere within the ranks of the department.
If that is true, what does the First Deputy's office do, the transfer order, what else? That office still has no power. Patrol is under Patrol. What else do they do? Another figure head and this time with no real power.
2/20/2008 10:16:00 PM
You are late, we said that already. Just a figure head. Who cares. That position should be eliminated anyway.
Anonymous said...
Tobias is gone. Put in his papers on the 19th and told his hockey playing friends that he has no regrets, Good luck ADS
2/21/2008 12:15:00 AM
He did not put in papers. All false rumors. He will keep academy. Why so much hate? Why the concern? Let him continue to lead academy into the future. By the way, who are the so call hockey players?
Whats with Aldercreature Carothers? He took bribes for a development in his ward and is now under investigation. It is only a matter of time jail bird.
A solution to solve morale issues in the 006th District on 3rd watch. Every shift that Capt Mags(the big one) is W/C is now known as "Pot Luck night". So everyone make a dish and bring it to the roll call room's "mags buffet table". If all of you just keep him full he will not attack. Just like the tigers eating the punks at the San Diego zoo. Just make sure there is a large supply of TP on hand and keep a bathroom open for him.
A guy from 020 (the park car no less) blasting a guy from 017...too funny, kind of like the pot calling the kettle.........FREE MIKE METTE!
Its JB Guns
So next time you come on here spewing your crap about cronyism and blood lines, i ask that you remember there are also a lot of people like me on that list.
2/20/2008 01:28:00 PM
How many letters of recomendation did you send in, and by whom?
Just to throw out a few stats, even though they're from a few years ago:
US Annual Causes Of Death
Tobacco - 420,000
Doctor's Negligence - 150,000
Alcohol - 130,000
Accidents(Home & Work)- 92,000
Motor Vehicles - 46,000
Firearms Suicides - 18,000
Firearms Homicides -12,000
Looks to me like we need to work more on outlawing ciggies, docs, clumsiness, booze, and cars.
I don't remember reading anything in our Bill Of Rights about those items.
civilian here, what is the audi home? what does nolly mean?
Sorry but you've earned T-R-O-L-L
status
I worked the 10 hour day in 017. It was the best year I've had working on the CPD.
2/13/2008 11:48:00 AM
REAL TOUGH IN 017...U MUST OF SLEPT YOUR ENTIRE SHIFT...
signed 020 district park car
JOE cut it out already!!!
Or he would have tortured someone into to saying they were. Get a new hero dude I been on this job long enough to have worked for that guy. He is a big reason we are where we are right now, DNA does not lie.
2/21/2008 12:00:00 AM
No DNA does not lie, but why is it being accepted that if someone's DNA is not one the scene they are not guility... Someone can do a crime without leaving behind DNA. Someone needs to start training these ASA's of that fact. To many people these days are being sent free just because none of lack of DNA on the scene. And in terms of Burge, torturing was not right, but neither is this "get him in front of a judge within 48 hours either...
Why do citizens of countries go to war, and for what reasons?
Why do citizens within the same country kill each other, and for what 'reasons'?
Why do cops bear arms?
Why do some, to many, cops support the citizen's right to keep and bear arms?
Do cops know things, about the realities of life, that leads them to conclude that the citizens, as a whole, would be benefited by not having their rights to keep and bear arms infringed upon?
And, finally, why is it that we seem to place a higher value on 'statistical evidence' over 'anecdotal evidence'?
2/21/2008 04:19:00 AM
Interesting that your goofy Liberal Socialist argument leaves out the most important premise. The framers of the constitution structured the 2nd amendment as a final check and balance to stop a government out of control so that citizens could rise up in armed conflict to stop that opressive government. Clearly this is a problem for Liberal Democrats dream of transforming our representative form of Democracy to an elitist Socialist tyranny where Liberals foist their will upon the unarmed masses. I'm going to the gun store right now for another weapon and writing my check to the NRA. Don't you liberals just hate that?
Like you deserve to comment. I did over 5 periods in austin, dawg.
16th Commando and proud of it
Wow a whole 5 periods in 015! well bless your soul, and now in 016, awesome......you almost qualify for gang intel with that resume.
Why would you call someone a troll if they ask a legit question?
in regards to the person who defended the rat you started your rambling by saying you don't know of the incident then shut the f up this offender spit on a po if there is ever a time someone needs an ass kicking that's it let's see you control your anger if someone spit on you
Who is the CHICKEN "I'm Skarred" sgt in 019 who beefed on a PO from 011? All over a parking ticket issued by a J/O po. More to it but, can't we all just get along?
2/20/2008 09:26:00 PM
You must be refering to the P.O. that called for a Sgt. after the school called on his rental truck and demanded the ticket be "taken care of" by screaming and yelling at the Sgt. And a wife who later went to the school delivering an unusual comment. That classy P.O.?
Pay the ticket, asshat.
with j-fed like ive been saying and no one has been listening MEET THE NEW BOSS SAME AS THE OLD BOSS!!! and my hero John Burge would have caught the unibomber before lunch
2/20/2008 10:30:00 PM
True. Except it would not have been the real unibomber, just some schmuck that confessed to being the unibomber. But, hey, for you, that's probably good enough, eh?
Just picked up my LMT M4 AR15...sweet!
2/20/2008 10:52:00 PM
Does your unit fit inside the narrow barrel? Or do you just rub it all over the weapon like I do? Sweet is right.
anonymous said...
Have fun on Midnights Mikey
2/20/2008 04:23:00 AM
Glad to see 018 is still full of management suck ups. Georgas must really enjoy it.
2/20/2008 10:59:00 AM
Handle this nonsense in-house will ya? Leave it off the blog. Thanks. 018 Dist PO
2/20/2008 11:34:00 PM
Sorry, Commander.
Like you deserve to comment. I did over 5 periods in austin, dawg.
16th Commando and proud of it
Wow a whole 5 periods in 015! well bless your soul, and now in 016, awesome......you almost qualify for gang intel with that resume.
Hey RAMBO worked in 14 for a minute!!!
audi is a car and nolly is probably some pop singer..Audy is a place for bad kids who aren't old enough for the pokey and Nolle is latin for dropping until further notice.....
"Interesting that your goofy Liberal Socialist argument leaves out the most important premise. The framers of the constitution structured the 2nd amendment as a final check and balance to stop a government out of control so that citizens could rise up in armed conflict to stop that oppressive government. Clearly this is a problem for Liberal Democrats dream of transforming our representative form of Democracy to an elitist Socialist tyranny where Liberals foist their will upon the unarmed masses. I'm going to the gun store right now for another weapon and writing my check to the NRA. Don't you liberals just hate that?
2/21/2008 11:32:00 AM"
You might want to re-read my posted comment.
Since it was rather long, I appreciated the owner's of this blog putting it up.
If you do review it, you will, hopefully, find that I support 2nd Amendment Rights, as they are clearly enumerated, and clearly stated as God-Given Rights, NOT as government granted privileges.
Perhaps my omission of the primary reason for the 2nd Amendment's creation was my assumption that, as this blog is owned and operated by individuals employed to enforce the very unconstitutional laws infringing upon the citizens' 2nd Amendment Rights, and is read by many individuals who are similarly employed and whom, I presume, are actively enforcing said laws, that this essential argument against these infringing laws would fall on deaf ears.
To state the obvious, these laws infringing upon the citizens' 2nd Amendment Rights have no weight unless and until they are enforced.
Law Enforcement Officers enforce these laws.
Thus, if you, as a presumed Law Enforcement Officer, don't believe these laws are constitutional, don't enforce them.
Whether you choose to selectively not enforce them or to unilaterally not enforce them is your individual decision to make.
But please don't complain about the very laws that you choose to enforce, as said laws have no power to enforce themselves, those who make said laws are not likely to attempt to personally enforce them, nor are those who prosecute them, nor are those who adjudicate them.
Law Enforcement Officers are the first line of defense the citizens have against unconstitutional non-laws.
Discretion is in the eyes of the enforcers.
A sergeant in 019 allowed a P.O. to yell and scream at him?
I guess things are different in the land of Starbucks.
Does your unit fit inside the narrow barrel? Or do you just rub it all over the weapon like I do? Sweet is right.
2/21/2008 08:25:00 PM
I annoint it with a special lube,and it aint LSA!
You might want to re-read my posted comment.
2/21/2008 10:34:00 PM
No thanks
And, finally, why is it that we seem to place a higher value on 'statistical evidence' over 'anecdotal evidence'?
2/21/2008 04:19:00 AM
Let me ask my german shepherd and get back to you. He's sleeping right now.
"Let me ask my german shepherd and get back to you. He's sleeping right now.
2/25/2008 11:58:00 AM"
Actually, your best friend likely knows the answer.
If only you understood his/her language.
Woof Woof
Actually, your best friend likely knows the answer. If only you understood his/her language. Woof Woof
2/25/2008 10:45:00 PM
Dammit, you sound just like sparky. Do you shit all over the yard too?
"Actually, your best friend likely knows the answer. If only you understood his/her language. Woof Woof
2/25/2008 10:45:00 PM
Dammit, you sound just like sparky. Do you shit all over the yard too?
2/26/2008 10:04:00 AM"
Only 'cause I know you'll either have to pick it up or step in it.
Woof Woof
Third option: after sparky plants a plump smokin' turd along the fence line, 2/27/2008 12:24:00 AM can eat it. Recyclin' poop and turnin' it into fool's gold is one of his specialties...
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