20/20 Story Coming
Evidently, J-Fed spoke to a meeting of Watch Commanders last week. And he confirmed that the story that had been circulating in our comment sections a few months back is true. The basics are as follows:
- ABC's 20/20 bought tickets to a CPD/UIC combined event and filmed it. Alcohol was consumed on site and after the event concluded, more alcohol was consumed at a well known drinking establishment. One or more officers were filmed at the event, at the bar, entering their cars and driving off
- Calls were made to OEMC and car descriptions were given along with the suspicious behavior observed (and filmed by 20/20). One or more traffic stops were made and no police action was taken after it was found that an officer was operating the car.
Again, we're getting all this third hand (e-mail from someone who may have been at the meeting), but it's close enough to what was in the comments section previously to warrant a "heads up" to everyone out there. The allegedly "intoxicated" behavior isn't what's going to be punished because there isn't any admissible proof of wrongdoing. What's going to be hammered is the lack of police action taken by the responding officers.
"Professional Courtesy" has many meanings. And in this age of squad car cameras, street corner pods, reporter ambushes and cell phone personal cameras, the scope of courtesy that can be extended anymore is narrowing faster than anyone dreamed possible.
"Professional Courtesy" has many meanings. And in this age of squad car cameras, street corner pods, reporter ambushes and cell phone personal cameras, the scope of courtesy that can be extended anymore is narrowing faster than anyone dreamed possible.
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Hey, if the officers that pulled these vehicles over did not observe drinking that night by the drivers and did not observe any poor driving behaviors or signs of intoxication, then there is nothing the officer could do to the driver.
OH HELL
F*#king media! They couldn't go to a bar where the bosses drink and then drive home in the company car?!
we need to stick together boys and girls
Lots of FBI guys/gals drink at Blackies. Keep that in mind lil Edgar Hoover. What goes around comes around.
Does anyone know where our elite media drink, I have a camera. Why don't we keep a spot on this blog where all our media creeps can be thrown under the bus..... anything will do, drinking,drugs affairs, thefts, or any double standard will do. They are humans and screw up just like the rest of us.FOOD FOR THOUGHT
AND here it all begins!
shit it looks like drinking at home is the only way to go..damn i love drinking alone come find me 20/20
Sounds like a 20/20 setup to me. They are out to get is all.
I guess the big question remains...who won the fight?
Hmmmm. Sounds like no more "professional courtesy" to the members of the media.
Once again,,,a hearty thank you to Tony Abbate and the A4 Gun Team who led the world to believe that we on the CPD are all a bunch of drunken thugs.
Plain and simple, don't drink and drive. If you go out in a group, designate a driver or spend 20 dollars on a cab ride home.
J-Fed is going to stick it to you otherwise. You've been warned.
almost 20 years on the job and have only written 8 501's. i give breaks to everyone. the only time you lose is if you crash and their are injuries. state police did a survey many years ago where they established that one out of every ten drivers on the road on a friday on way home from work had open alcohol in vehicle. 20/20 needs to focus on a societal problem instead of trying to make it a police problem.
sounds fishy? you're in your squad car and u get dispatched to a call of a car driving erratcally down some street in some direction, and you actually catch up to it, pull it over, find out it is a cop and give courtesy? i'm sorry. i'm no dog, but unless i'm right there, or the call had a gun involved in it somewhere... i'm not finding this car. there are too many intangibles here.
There are PLENTY of times that I go to an event or out to a bar and have one drink. I may be in there for hours but I personally do not drive drunk. So who's to say that I was in that bar for a few hours had 1 drink, got in my car, was pulled over and there was NO reason that I even needed a professional courtsey...who's to say????
THE END IS NEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fine. Time to ticket the media trucks, newspaper trucks etc, and time for OUR vice guys to hit the bars that the newsmen frequent. The press provided the match, we'll provide the gasoline. They could have followed lawyers, newsmen, pastors, doctors etc, but decided to follow us. EVERY profession has its fair share of drunks...just ask walter jacobsen....Like its news that coppers drink! And give courtesy! Call THAT news? How bout an expose on Daley's connection to the synidcate? How aobut a little national news on Obama's connection to Rezko, who shook down political donars? How about some national recognition as to how things work around here: Stroger inherits the job from daddy, Lipinski inherits the job from daddy.... the governor wastes our money on daily flights to springfield because he's too good to live in a mansion, city hall has a 6000 dollar shower...crook county has the highest sales tax in the nation, the CPD is prohibited from enforcinng national immigration laws, citizens are prohibited from having a firearm in violation of the 2nd ammendment, city workers are prohibited from living where they chose by a state law that violates rights, mike mette is in the clink due to corruption.....THAT is news.... the best these assclowns can come up with is that cops drink and give each other breaks? Give ME a break! 20/20 should be ashamed that that is the best they can come up with. Hell, who is the producer, Daley himself????
In response to a request by female Muslim students, Harvard University has created women-only workout hours at one of its campus gyms. The decision has angered some students at the Ivy League university.
Since Jan. 28, the Quadrangle Recreational Athletic Center has been open only to women from 8 a.m. to 10 a.m. on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. on Mondays.
The change was prompted by a request from the Harvard College Women's Center, which was approached by six female Muslim students, said Robert Mitchell, communications director of Harvard's Faculty of Arts and Sciences.
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Hmmmmmmmm lets start changing America to fit the Muslims! Sounds like a great plan to me! NOT!
Off topic-
On CLTV (02MAR08) former Alderman TILLMAN was arrested in Alabama for criminal trespass. The video shows (SGT?) BOONE (formerly of the Academy) hugging her and giving her a kiss on the cheek then taking her to a car. I always wonder who his clout was.
We should keep reminding everyone about THIER problems...Josea..CRACK..CRACKEEY Amy..hanging out with MURDER "SUSPECTS"....Lil Walter...another drunk. I almost ran him over, years ago when he was leaving a hotel with his wife after an x-mas party. He stumbled off a curb into the path of my car!HIs wife was just as drunk,neither could walk straight.ONE OF THE TWO DROVE HOME,WE WERE IN A PARKING GARAGE, so they were going to thier car!!....who else did i miss????????
Please!!!! will everyone wake up!!! Call a cab. Call for a ride...Don't risk your job, home, family and freedom for something as stupid as a DUI. There has been a bulls-eye on your back for the last couple of years and it doesn't look like it is getting any better.
lack of police action to what offense?
I've said this time and time again on this site. HAMMER THEM!!
Every illegally parked camera truck, every delivery truck that blows a stop sign, everything and I mean everything they do should be liable to the same treatment they give you.
In my day (granted without the ability of being filmed) we had a little problem with Skippy Jacobsen. He found out that life is indeed a two way street. He did not stop completely but he sure was alot fairer with his take on things.
None of them are your friends. If they work for any type of media - "Screw em."
Ok Fuck them! I will not write a copper, for anything, if I stop you and you are drunk, You will get a "courtesy ride" home and my partner will drive your car! maybe your not drunk maybe the doctors in the media cannot figure out you could of taken cough syrup for the "flu" and as a responsible officer i was taking you home! Oh they say you were in the bar! Drinking what, prove it was alcohol in every glass/cup/bottle! Maybe you had 1 drink and then drank sparkling water becuase you were sick? The paper trucks it is on now when is that story going to break?
20/20 i'm comiiiiiiiing after u:)
This was exactly what was posted on some website a few months back. I asked you, SCC, about it then, because it was nearly possible to make out the identity of the filmers (through rear view mirrors, etc.) You didn't post my comment, and I actually thought these two younger guys filming the police were "friends" of coppers---not media, and that was how they gained access to these parties.
so called "professional courtesy" is just another way that cops manage to alienate the public at large, probably not intentionally.
you can't give a guy a pass because he is your buddy, while simultaneously engaging in numerous revenue stops the rest of the day without the public feeling it is about as hypocritical as you can get.
I THINK 10 HOUR DAY WILL SOLVE THE DRINKING PROBLEM.
Just because someone drives after having a few drinks does not make the person intoxicated. If the officer doesn't have the signs, he cannot arrest for DUI.
It's going to get to the point that we're going to have to have a pre-approved guest list for benefits so the media can't get in.
I'm sure we have all seen the political commercials from hillary which ask, "its 3am and an international crisis is brewing. Who do you want to answer the phone"? John Burge!
Time to wake up, boys and girls in blue. Go out and party SMART. You really can't afford this kind of media heat, and I can think of far too many coppers I would hate to see on tape, intoxicated.
The job you save may be your own.
Hey J.P. how about worrying about the spike in violence going on right now, with one day of semi-nice weather.Dont forget, before you came here, we were first and foremost a police department, but you wouldn't know about that now, would you? Gonna be a fun summer boys and girls.
P.S. By the way Jody, how did YOU let a police officer get arrested for battering police officers and paramedics in a suburb? On your watch Jody? Now you will begin to see that the Superintendent is just a figurehead, and you too will be eventually thrown under the bus by DA Mayor!
I'll tell you guys a quick story that happened many years ago when cell phones were something new.
Driver calls 911 to report a drunk driver. CPD in 016 wagon gets the job, finds the vehicle and takes the driver home. Mr. Citizen on his cell phone call's 911 back to complain, IAD is called and coppers got it stuck up their asses and took five days each.
My point is, these incidents just did not happen after you woke up today. Trust nobody you don't know.
Personally, I don't go looking for anybody in particular to hammer them, however, media or not I'll write 'em. They certainly force you to limit your decision as to who gets a pass and who does not.
By the way, the in-car video camera makes my job so much easier when these goofs want to beef. Finally, we get to turn the table on them.
What happen to "Probable Cause" for a stop!
Just a call from an anonymous citizen does NOT prove anything!
The way it works is that you must now be a model citizen. Prim and proper on all counts. Learn to live this way or go back to your old job.
In response to a request by female Muslim students, Harvard University has created women-only workout hours at one of its campus gyms. The decision has angered some students at the Ivy League university.
Since Jan. 28, the Quadrangle Recreational Athletic Center has been open only to women from 8 a.m. to 10 a.m. on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. on Mondays.
The change was prompted by a request from the Harvard College Women's Center, which was approached by six female Muslim students, said Robert Mitchell, communications director of Harvard's Faculty of Arts and Sciences.
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This is America!
If the Muslims don't like our rules and our culture!
Then they all can beat back to their side of the world!
I give no breaks to Muslims nor to their goofy religion!
HEY SSC TALK ABOUT DRUNKS, A FRIEND OF MINE IS ON NAPERVILLE P.D. IT SEEMS A CERTAIN FBI SPECIAL AGENT LIKES TO GET DRUNK AND THEN BEAT UP HIS WIFE. ALSO ISN'T TRUE THAT THIS AGENT WAS ARRESTED FOR DOMESTIC BATTERY BY NPD AND ALSO GAVE NPD A HARD TIME, FUNNY HOW THE WHOLE INCIDENT WAS SLEPT UNDER THE RUG. BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT RULES FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND THE FBI ARE THE ELITE.
This original story was not done by 20/20. The guy who did the filming was, until recently, a member of some police abuse commission out east. Got into more thatn one tiff with PD's all over trying to "uncover the truth". The video was linked to said organization's website until their powers that be decided to take it off and then terminate the individual. Their website states that he is no longer affiliated with them. Shortly after he is given the boot, 20/20 gets a hold of the tape.
Just remembered, the guy's name is Gregory A. Slate (Age 24) of Hyattsville, MD
Off topic-
On CLTV (02MAR08) former Alderman TILLMAN was arrested in Alabama for criminal trespass. The video shows (SGT?) BOONE (formerly of the Academy) hugging her and giving her a kiss on the cheek then taking her to a car. I always wonder who his clout was.
3/03/2008 03:43:00 AM
dude he's been her body guard for years
I SAY BS., JUST A COUPLE OF DO NOTHING DOUCHEBAGS PIMPLE FACE KIDS WITH A HAND HELD CAMERA, BUT STILL, BE CAREFUL.........
this is why we must fight for a twenty and out pension. the presure of this job is only gonna get worse. fbi and military have twenty and out why dont we. we have alot more presure than fbi. we dont have 2 million dollars 2years and a us atty holdin our hand every time we make a traffic stop.
If there is not any admissable proof of wrongdoing,the responding officers did nothing wrong. It is not any different than when you give "Joe Citizen"a pass.
Holy Binged Drinkers Batman!!!
Stick to shots of Gentlemen Jack. Ain’t no law against drinking at home. Ain’t no law against having a drink as many members of the media enjoy by going to bars too? Tell all the politicians to stop selling liquor licenses to bar owners in this country. They called it prohibition in the early 1900's. Hell some of our best customers are members of the media just ask Walter Jacobson about his thoughts on this subject. If you setup a camera outside any bar’s parking lot or main entrance you will film many patrons going inside (maybe drinking) and coming out (maybe drunk and lucky). You have to ask the question how did the media know who is a police officer and who isn’t? Where the officers on duty, in uniform? Or off duty and wearing civilian clothes? Did the media record any conversations (if secretly, it is illegal in Illinois without a Judges’ order) at any time? Did the media buy on/off duty police officer any drinks? Did any member of the media make, serve or measure the alcohol content of each drink given to each officer (if known) in order to determine scientifically if the accused where legally drunk? Did the media hire an expert to state his opinion on this subject? Did the media make the anonymous calls to 911? Did any member of the media step forward at the scene of the traffic stop to communicate what they saw directly to the officers and proclaim themselves a witness? Did the media request a supervisor when they saw a motorist get a pass? Did the motorist appear to be drunk to the officers, was their speech slurred, eyes reds and blood shot, and unable to drive? Did the motorist commit a traffic violation? What probable cause did the media provide so that a police officer could establish justification that a call to 911 wasn’t an alleged anonymous prank call? Many people drink (thousands) at large sporting events, Bears, Black Hawks, Bulls, Cubs, Heat, Sox at these games. Do you want the police to conduct roadside checks outside of those events too? Hold up traffic for hours until people can leave? How about all those media types driving home after a game they just covered? The police could have supervisors out there to arrest police officers who had a few beers too. Lieutenants to arrest sergeants and so on?
Can the video recording alone convict any of those accused in court. Hell no. Will any accused get arrest and charged. Hell no. Will any administrative actions be taken Hell Ya!!! And every accused member should fight the complaint. I would. And I bet you win! Might take two years. Sue the media for violating your rights by making audio and video recordings of you, if not in public areas. Better yet sue them for defamation of character. They can’t prove your were drunk.
Face it! This story is just another cheap shot at the police. Jacobson attack the police every chance he got after he’d got DUI. I am still going have a drink so long as it’s legal. Fuck anyone who says I can’t. If I get elected mayor I am getting fuckin stone drunk! And I will call J-Fed on his cell phone for a ride home and he better answer the call.
Does anyone still watch 20/20 any more ?
Sure the coppers who allegedly gave other coppers a break will get screwed, but what about the bosses who have contributed to the drinking scandals? What about Rick Flair, commander of the fighting 8th district...past leader of the infamous area 4 gun team......home of more than one recent scandal (Jeferson Tap and another incident not yet revealed, search warrant scandal! But he's probably bullet proof due to having Alderman Carother's brother under him and the protection of the Alderman, favor for favor? How about it J-fed? Or is it just business as usual?
Hmmmm. Sounds like no more "professional courtesy" to the members of the media.
If you actually gave them courtesy to begin with you are a moron.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT 20/20 EXPERIENCE IS BUT IF THE RESPONDING OFFICER, UPON CONDUCTING THE STOP, HAS DETERMINED THAT THE DRIVER DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE INTOXICATED NO FURTHER POLICE ACTION WILL BE TAKEN. A DEFAMATION LAWSUIT APPEARS TO BE APPROPRIATE.
Someone please remind me. Isn't that UIC/CPD baseball game a fundraiser for somebody, or maybe in rememberance of someone who may have been killed on this job? You know with all the crime problems that run rampant in this city let alone in this country, why is it that 20/20 a major national news program would single out this one event to try and determine if cops are drinking and driving? It's a travesty. But let's not stop these events. Let's invite these cockroaches to them and tell them what they're all about. Be smart people. Get a ride there. Take a cab when you are done. You make over $70,000. You CAN afford it. Don't gie them anything to report and they will never come back. It's that simple. I personally have been to hundreds of these benefits and I will continue to go. But if I decide to get a litle typsy, I'm gonna take a cab. I'll get my car the next day. Stay safe and be smart. And remember turn off 20/20.
The film was made by an antipolice group. It is shown at the crowd control training for Tact. I don't think it was done by 20/20 but J-Fed has obviously seen the show. Everyone needs to be careful. Remember the old adage "Trust no one" and live by it.
Last time I checked I was allowed to use discretion on traffic stops. I can let people off with a verbal warning for minor violations if I choose. Just because someone is in a bar does not mean that when they leave the bar they are drunk.
Off Topic: Took 20 minutes to get to DuPage County today to do a little shopping. By November when the tax increase hits, I should know my way around DuPage County pretty well. I was enlightened to walk into a clean store where people speak English :) I won't be shopping here.
Lots of reporters drink in Billy goats under Michigan Ave. A bunch of self importand sots.
There is a well known male news media member, who was arrested for smoking crack and sucking d%&k. The media never mentioned the arrest, put him on a brief leave of absecence, and now he has his own Sunday morning show. Did they give professional courtesy to him? Yes, and they swept it under the rug? Do as I say not as I do.
Show me anywhere in ILCS, where it states I have write tickets!
Show me anywhere in ILCS, where it states I have write DUI's!
Show me anywhere in ILCS, or the GO's, SO's... where it states I have write tickets, DUI's or jam a Cop!
Read and UNDERSTAND the Rules and Regs, Not just for the Det/Sgt/Lt test, for your own adminitrative survival!
Fuck the media, bunch of ball-less libreals that cant do anything except point a finger! How many people did the media save in 9-11? New Orleans? A fire? Car Accident? NONE! They just stand there, stick a microphone in the dumbest person's face, and ask questions to someone who: #1-Isint smart enougs to say "no comment". #2- Cant help but act like a jackass for the camera. #3- Wasnt within 3 blocks of the incident when it occured.
"...The credit belongs to the man that is actually in the arena! Not those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat!"
Here's a few questions, Did the alleged 20/20 people run up to the squad car making the stop and identify themselves as witnesses? Did any witness come foward? Did the alleged off-duty officer appear intoxicated to the on-duty officer? If not, then why would an arrest be made.
DID THE (UNDERCOVER) MEDIA MAKE A BEEF, THEN COME FOWARD AND SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT TO WHAT THEY CLAIM.
If none of this happened then so what.
THAT is news.... the best these assclowns can come up with is that cops drink and give each other breaks?
You had a good comment until you added the "assclowns" to the end. why is it that so many police want to sound uneducated?
whoever sold tickets to these people forgot to mention to the ticket committee, make sure you who you are selling the tickets, they are not your friends, something so innocent to help people the media will turn it into something ugly,when these people were filming nobody saw cameras, how stupid can you be. Someone had to give them the ok, probly UIC.We are our worst enemys, and confirms we needed a new sup. The committee how stupid are you people, When you saw them filming why did n't anybody informed the officers in uniform, was the entire committee rookies or ditzy women.
J-Fed is not going to stick it to us we are doing it to ourselves, thanks again guys at UIC, Abate, Jerry Finighan and the rest of the thugs.
When 20-20 was filming nobody saw cameras, they did not film on the sneak, people how stupid are you and drinking in uniform, hey boys and girls read the general orders, that is how they get you, dont blame the Supt blame yourselves stupids.
When was that event at UIC?
Short but true story... After a holiday party I attended one of the officers that works for me was exhibiting poor judgement and wanted to drive home. I expressed my disagreement with this and called the 018 (1st watch)for assistance since this officer lived close by. The answer I received from some po on the desk, "We are really busy and don't have anyone available to help you out."
I call B.S. Every car in 018 was down on a job at 0130. B.S.
Professional Courtesy is helping out a copper before the situation gets ugly. Giving a fellow brother in blue a ride BEFORE he gets in his car, getting him/her to walk away BEFORE things get too hot, slowing someone down BEFORE that unnecessary boot gets caught on film. You get flagged down by a fellow officer who needs a ride, you do it. You get a call at the desk a copper needs a little help getting home, you drop what you are doing (googling SCC) and you find someone to do it. Bet 1810/20/30 would have done it themselves had someone asked. Screw the media, let's pull together and start helping each other out BEFORE the next scandal erupts. Start showing some comeraderie and be there for your brothers and sisters in need.
Why doesn't the media follow their own after a work party. Like the snow moblie incident. That would make interesting T.V
Maybe it's time to start writing all the media trucks that are equipped with sirens and "emergency" equipment for violations of the vehicle code.
Stopping a car from a 911 call isn't enough to arrest someone for DUI. There is a crap load of other factors that need to be observed. They have nothing.
I attended the last Police Memorial Ceremony at Gold Star Park , and was invited to the skybox club by the current President of the Gold Star Families, and I lost count of how many exempts were there in uniform drinking in plain view of everyone. This double standard is complete BULLSHIT!! These assholes are supposed to lead by example. And FUCK the media they are all firefans anyway!!
fuck this i quit............
street corner cameras, cell phone cameras, cameras in the squad cars, gps in squad cars, cameras on tasers, guilty until proven innocent, bullshit lawsuits, bullshit lawsuits being paid out by the city, no chase policy, no contract, swiping, court deviations, inspectors, 30 min lunches to start when you walk in, many micro manager or asshole supervisors, no back up from the dept, the media, reverends, etc, etc
answer those calls, write paper, back each other up, stay safe.
just do what I did. knock your wife up (if you have one) and viola... instant designated driver!
but seriously... many of us have given a drunk the 'phone a friend' option? or flagged a cab down for them since they didn't yet get into an accident or cause anyone any harm? Thats a courtesy thats been given to many people that weren't even the police so I really dont see the big problem with it.
Those tapes show absolutely nothing wrong. They make a bunch of allegations that their film can not back up. If there were anyone smart in the media which hasnt been found yet, they would know they have nothing. But hey police bashing is the cool thing to do now a days. They should realize that stupid filming made by a guy who probably got a mover 8 years ago and cant let it go is a loser
A good friend of mine 501'd Walter Jacobson in 018 a few years back.
Courtesy goes both ways. How many times have you heard or witnessessed a cop who acts like an a#&hole after getiing pulled over?
How courteous are you being when your drunk and put a copper and his families welfare on the line when you ask for a break.
The days coming when we will be required to ask for a supv when a stopped driver identifies himself as a cop. The cop will be beligerent and the Sgt. will say screw him write him.
Then the Sgt will be the A88hole on this blog.
But mandatory requesting of Sgts when a driver IDS himself as a PO WILL come.
And its our own falult. Too many cops with a sense of entitlement.
There is NOTHING wrong with driving a drunk person home. I do it many times for citizens that are NOT the police. So you damn well better believe im going to do it for the coppers. Fuck 20/20 and all media outlets, lets sit our squads outside ch 7 ch 5 and ch 2 and follow them to their bar of choice and we'll see how many are calling for cabs. If they want a battle, we should give it to them. I don't condone driving drunk and NEVER let a drunk drive if i stop one. But i have the discretion to not fuck with a working joe or another copper and give them a ride myself. I will ALWAYS continue doing that, and if I get 15-30 days suspension for it then so be it. All i ask is a small fundraiser to get my missed wages back.
A good friend of mine 501'd Walter Jacobson in 018 a few years back.
3/03/2008 03:50:00 PM
Myron Snodgrass aka Dick Kay has had a few run-ins w/the law.
A good friend of mine 501'd Walter Jacobson in 018 a few years back.
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"skippy" was also involved in a differnt kind of "situation" involving the CPD back in the begining of his career. Let's see if there are any oldtimers who would remember what it was.
Have you ever been to a benefit in 016? Everyone is drinking in uniform. P.O. and bosses.
Mikey writes tickets to the media. Always have, always will.
I like this a lot.
And I'd point out that Forest Park officers apparently failed to extend "courtesy" to a felonious CPD officer in their jurisdiction.
This could be the end of that foolish custom that does so much to tarnish the reputation of the average, honest officer.
"skippy" was also involved in a differnt kind of "situation" involving the CPD back in the begining of his career. Let's see if there are any oldtimers who would remember what it was.
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nose candy. my name was on the arrest report.
skippy" was also involved in a differnt kind of "situation" involving the CPD back in the begining of his career. Let's see if there are any oldtimers who would remember what it was.
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nose candy. my name was on the arrest report.
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That's awesome but there is another "situation" which I was thinking of!!
Elvin Boone is a great guy!
I don't care who his clout is. I've worked with and for Boone and he's the tops!
If it's time to kick in a door I want Boone there.
Boone went to bat for me when I was being screwed over...he's a stand up guy. This place needs more bosses like Boone!
MPK 016
to da moron on the separate muslim workout area.
UIC LOCATED ON HALSTED RECREATION CENTER HAS SEPARATE WORK OUT AREA FOR MUSLIMS. FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS.
SO IF YOU DONT LIKE ARE OIL PRODUCING FRIENDS JUST SAY IT. AND DONT USE THE WE ARE IN AMERICA SONG DOING IT. REMEMBER WOMEN COULDNT VOTE AND YOU COULD HAVE SLAVES IN YOUR GOOD OLD AMERICA.
YOU R AN AMATEUR HATER
You had a good comment until you added the "assclowns" to the end. why is it that so many police want to sound uneducated?
3/03/2008 12:54:00 PM
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assclowns (chuckles)... we say it 'cause its funny, asshat.
Instead of doing the trash sensationalism, why can't the do a feature on the injustice dealt Mike Mette?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
so called "professional courtesy" is just another way that cops manage to alienate the public at large, probably not intentionally.
you can't give a guy a pass because he is your buddy, while simultaneously engaging in numerous revenue stops the rest of the day without the public feeling it is about as hypocritical as you can get.
3/03/2008 07:28:00 AM
Hey meat head! I don't know any P.O.s that are thinking about generating "revenue" when initiating a traffic stop.
In fact, most drivers talk themselves in to a ticket.
As for "professional courtesy,"
any person that is doing this job, and HAS walked in our shoes, gets a play. Now there are some exceptions, but we'll not dwell on those.
By the way, if the alleged tv crew is so concerned about the publics' safety, why didn't they approach these drivers as they entered their vehicles? The reporter can stop the driver and ask if they were going to diver. This stops anyone that may be intoxicated from possibly injuring someone.
I know, the story is less sensational. Don't let the safety of the public get in the way of a good story.
Re:
A West Chicago woman was in critical condition Monday after the SUV she was riding in Saturday struck a deer, which crashed through the window and struck her in the head, Kane County Sheriff's Department officials said.
The driver of a 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee, who fled the scene, was traveling south on Illinois Highway 31 at about 10:20 p.m. Saturday with four passengers, including Adela Gomez, 25, authorities said. The driver struck a deer at 7 N 325 Illinois 31, in an unincorporated area between South Elgin and St. Charles, and the impact severed the deer in two, officials said.
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It appears that over 75% of the accidents being reported in the news are people with Hispanic surnames. Many are charged without drivers licenses. I would gather this is mostly due to being here illegally. So no license or fleeing the scene as this driver did would also mean no insurance. How much is all these illegals really costing us? Truly a shame.
Re: Harvard.
What are the Men Only hours?
That's what I thought.
How about the hours for the gay-Jewish-Eskimos?
You tube the media.
I've seen several media types in public with their families.
Cellphone video, put it on You Tube.
Make sure they are in public view.
Addresses too.
It was not Skippy, but his brother and some young children. I think he did some time for it.
Was it when Skippy ratted out all the cops for playing softball at Grant Park on company time? That was when I first found out he's only about four feet tall.
Carol Marin had a little Nose C too. No arrest though. She was in some hot new club on the low end . State st maybe. Years ago.
skippy" was also involved in a differnt kind of "situation" involving the CPD back in the begining of his career. Let's see if there are any oldtimers who would remember what it was.
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nose candy. my name was on the arrest report.
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That's awesome but there is another "situation" which I was thinking of!!
3/03/2008 04:40:00 PM
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One of my old co-workers (before this job) was working as a waiter/bartender at a party held at his house. He was asked to retrieve something from the freezer and found a bag that had a felony amount of weed in it.
Since skippy stiffed him on a tip, he took the bag and split. What’s he gonna do, call the police? LOL
What about Rick Flair, commander of the fighting 8th district...
Somebody has a personal problem with this guy...WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?
So calling Barack Obama by his full name given to him by his father is not good enough for him. I say that Barack Ali-Hussein al-Obama should be proud of the name given to him by his father, Ali-baba Obama, and sanctioned by Allah himself. I hope I have the right name and spelling of all of his names since he denies his arab and or muslim heritage and wouldn’t tell the truth. If B. Hussien Obama does tell his right name we will all be less confused about his identity.
Myron Snodgrass aka Dick Kay has had a few run-ins w/the law.
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Yup, it is true. He lives in unincorporated Maine Township in one of the duplex townhomes. We (the CCSPD) went there many a time for domestics. His house is P.O.S.E. (piles of shit everywhere) and the carpet hasn't been cleaned since the coming of Christ. Place smelled like nasty feet.
Mr. Snodgrass, the prince of 38's beat. Unwashed unkempt motherfucker he is.
--From someone who knows.
"skippy" was also involved in a differnt kind of "situation" involving the CPD back in the begining of his career. Let's see if there are any oldtimers who would remember what it was.
not an old timer...son of an old timer...story is second hand but pretty close
AFTER the DUI...Skippy was following 018 dist coppers around with a camera..had an axe to grind and looking to make the coppers who locked him up look bad. He had video of them picking up dry cleaning, etc.
Media spin was that they should be fighting crime, policing Cabrini - Understand that was a VERY different 018 district - anyway, coppers get jammed up, file civil suit against Skippy and CBS that resulted in an out of court "undisclosed settlement" ... i think both of the cops (now retired) have fairly nice summer homes in Wisconsin
Not urban myth, pretty close to truth even if 2nd - 3rd hand
And I'd point out that Forest Park officers apparently failed to extend "courtesy" to a felonious CPD officer in their jurisdiction.
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Be skeptical of this version of events...don't be too quick to judge this event.
Forest Park are NO FRIENDS of the police. This is not the first time...many, many stories of cops getting jammed up in Forest Park. You are guilty and at fault once they find out your the police.
When I was a young pup,there was a policeman from 018 in my traffic room at the old 321 building.Every other month Skippy was in there because this police officer would write him up everytime Skippy got behind the wheel,I believe at that time Skippy was on a D/L suspension.Well Skippy does one of his commentaries about this police officer,and if I'm not mistaken the police officer sued him for slander and won!
Myron Snodgrass aka Dick Kay has had a few run-ins w/the law.
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Yup, it is true. He lives in unincorporated Maine Township in one of the duplex townhomes. We (the CCSPD) went there many a time for domestics. His house is P.O.S.E. (piles of shit everywhere) and the carpet hasn't been cleaned since the coming of Christ. Place smelled like nasty feet.
Mr. Snodgrass, the prince of 38's beat. Unwashed unkempt motherfucker he is.
--From someone who knows.
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I lived in those same duplexes in 1980's they were shitholes then and I'm sure they a way worse now. I lived just behind him can't believe he never moved out of that shit neighborhood with all his cash. Sounds like a real scumbag!!
What ever happen to Peter Karl and his dope smoking friends from channel 5?? Peter Karl now has a multi-million dollar contract to produce videos for the police department!!!!!
Anonymous said...
Myron Snodgrass aka Dick Kay has had a few run-ins w/the law.
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Yup, it is true. He lives in unincorporated Maine Township in one of the duplex townhomes. We (the CCSPD) went there many a time for domestics. His house is P.O.S.E. (piles of shit everywhere) and the carpet hasn't been cleaned since the coming of Christ. Place smelled like nasty feet.
Mr. Snodgrass, the prince of 38's beat. Unwashed unkempt motherfucker he is.
--From someone who knows.
3/03/2008 08:08:00 PM
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I am surprised by that, most openly gay guys are cleaning nuts and everything perfect.
Dick K, swear I could smell this breath thru the tube.
When are you chest-thumping whiners going to learn, it is not what you do, but what people PERCEIVE that you have done. Keep spouting off on a public blog about how we can justify not writing a "brother" and see if we dont look like bigger a-holes than we really are.
Leave the "FTO-ing" for the roll call room (before the WC shows up). If the real police dont know how things are done on the street, then they never will. STFU!
Elvin Boone is a great guy!
I don't care who his clout is. I've worked with and for Boone and he's the tops!
If it's time to kick in a door I want Boone there.
Boone went to bat for me when I was being screwed over...he's a stand up guy. This place needs more bosses like Boone!
MPK 016
3/03/2008 04:59:00 PM
He may be a great cop, but he needs his mouth washed out with soap! I was at A/1 range a few years ago and we shot at the same time. Afterwards, we hung out for a bit and talked with the range guys. Every other word out of his mouth was mother******, s**t, f**k, a**hole, g*dd*mn, SOB, etc.
Now I'm no prude, but this was insane. I've never heard anything like that before or since then, not even from the idiots on the streets. If I knew him, I would have ask, "Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?"
Skippy Jacobsen dressed up like a homeless man and was walking around the area near Fullerton & Clark seeing how he would be treated by business owners and the police
Theweather was cold outside and he would sit in restaraunts dorrways, loiter in stores etc
My partner and I spotted him once in a flame broiled chicekn place in 023 just north of Fullerton on the east side of Clark.
We ignored him
Why can't we get a brake like Walter Jacobson or Jose Sanders?!
Yes, the Billy Goat, on Lower Wacker Drive, is an oft hole for the reporters and anchors of the media.
In particular, the first Friday of the month is an unofficial get together day for them.
Aside from parking anywhere near by, many Tribune reporters park in the paper's parking lot, just east of the bar.
I am a former reporter and can attest how ignorant these people are.
And don't think for one second that they have ANY respect for you because they don't.
The very first thing I was told on my first day at the Tribune was: Cops lie.
Little did they know that they were talking to a cop's kid.
Write 'em.
They asked for it.
The coppers in Forest Park did everything they could to help the little asshole out. What did they get for their troubles? An elbow to the face. Fuck the drunkin' little prick. If you get stupid when you drink and get in trouble, that's your own fault. There were signed complaints from the bar owner for the broken tables and they pushed the issue. Dickhead didn't throw a punch until he was in the station and only getting charged with misd. CDTP.
Fuck him...
Sorry, you hit another copper because he HAS to do his job, that's on him. Probably would have killed someone going home anyway....Is a slight embarrassment now, would have been one later too from what i hear...
3/03/2008 08:17:00 PM
You'll pardon my cynical reply, but you're not for real! I've dealt with many drunk coppers in my career, and almost all of them when they screw up and are given a chance to make right, do so.
This asshat didn't make right, and went off on the coppers and paramedics. Or are you saying it's a vast conspiracy from Forest Park PD to sandbag city coppers?
You sound like the reverends when one of their flock gets caught dirty or gets a well deserved lumping. I'm sorry this copper screwed up, but he made his bed, now he can go find another line of work.
Someone wanna let ABC know there's a war going on?
He may be a great cop, but he needs his mouth washed out with soap! I was at A/1 range a few years ago and we shot at the same time. Afterwards, we hung out for a bit and talked with the range guys. Every other word out of his mouth was mother******, s**t, f**k, a**hole, g*dd*mn, SOB, etc.
Now I'm no prude, but this was insane. I've never heard anything like that before or since then, not even from the idiots on the streets. If I knew him, I would have ask, "Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?"
3/03/2008 09:58:00 PM
dude shut the hell up. who the hell are you, a damn reverend. you're worried about someone cussing. what a asshat!!!
That homeless thing was so stupid. He looked just like Walter Jacobson, just all dirty and I think he might have had a fake beard. He was still just four feet tall.
assclowns (chuckles)... we say it 'cause its funny, asshat.
3/03/2008 05:14:00 PM
just another exmple of the age group most of you are beavis
Are you fucking kidding me you june bug mother fucker? Boone swore too much?
These are the duche bags we have on the job now. I guessing he is a suburbanite or a public leaguer.
Becoming a cop does not relieve you of your former nickname, PUSSY.
I'm pretty sure that "Skippy" got busted being a "Peeper" Early on in his career!!
SCOTUS ruled you cannot conduct a TerrY stop based on an anonymous caller. The police have to based the stop on their own observations. You, we, US ... gotta know that when you get an OEC call of "intoxicated driver drining red car E/B Irving Park from Cicero" ... called in by anonymous .... YOU, ME, US, ... CANNOT stop that car based on the anonymous caller. So if 20/20 calls this shit it ....ANONYMOUSLY ... then the same applies.
Look up calls for service on CHRISC for the date in question. You'd have to know the district where the call came from. (NOT PCAD ... CHRISC has a 911 caLL LISTING ALSO)
I attended the last Police Memorial Ceremony at Gold Star Park , and was invited to the skybox club by the current President of the Gold Star Families, and I lost count of how many exempts were there in uniform drinking in plain view of everyone. This double standard is complete BULLSHIT!! These assholes are supposed to lead by example. And FUCK the media they are all firefans anyway!!
3/03/2008 02:02:00 PM
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Why do you cowards give up so much info on these boards? (no i'm not a boss either) Everyone is a fucking loudmouth on here.
so called "professional courtesy" is just another way that cops manage to alienate the public at large, probably not intentionally.
you can't give a guy a pass because he is your buddy, while simultaneously engaging in numerous revenue stops the rest of the day without the public feeling it is about as hypocritical as you can get.
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Interesting...I have given a break every single time...made sure the CITIZEN got home safely. You're saying I should just DUI everybody, including officers. And this, is supposed to make citizens like us more. Thought provoking einstein!
TO 3/3/08/ 1132AM. HEY YOUR CORRECT ABOUT DUPAGE COUNTY BUT CHECK OUT OSWEGO,ILL. IN KENDALL COUNTY. ALL YOUR SHOPPING NEEDS ARE THERE ON RT34, AND YES THE TAXES ARE LOWER AND EVERYBODY SPEAKS ENGLISH AND HAS A JOB. WAY TO TODD YOU JAGOFF, CANT WAIT TILL THE WALL STREET JOURNAL DOES A STORY ABOUT HOW ANTI BUSINESS CROOKED COUNTY IS.
3/03/2008 09:58:00 PM
I know Boone. I knew him before he became the police. We used to play basketball together with some other officers. He worked for C.T.A. at the time. One rainy night while working in 002 I was headed s/b on Cottage towards 47th St, when I saw a uniformed P.O. in the middle of the street with a naked guy on the ground and a large hostile crowd surrounding him. My partner and I pulled up and exited our vehicle. It turned out the P.O. was working spec. emp. for CTA and all of a sudden a naked guy jumped on the bus with an angry crowd after him. The naked guy was nuts and had jumped on the back of a guys car and was trying to remove the antenna of his C.B. radio. The guy was from that area and had some friends around and they decided to take justice into their own hands. While in the street with this cop and crowd a bus going n/b on Cottage stopped and the bus driver got out with his ticket puncher and came to our assistance. That bus driver was Boone. You guys couldn't even carry his star case.
Ret. P.O. Allen McGrew
Anonymous said...
There is NOTHING wrong with driving a drunk person home. I do it many times for citizens that are NOT the police. So you damn well better believe im going to do it for the coppers. Fuck 20/20 and all media outlets, lets sit our squads outside ch 7 ch 5 and ch 2 and follow them to their bar of choice and we'll see how many are calling for cabs. If they want a battle, we should give it to them. I don't condone driving drunk and NEVER let a drunk drive if i stop one. But i have the discretion to not fuck with a working joe or another copper and give them a ride myself. I will ALWAYS continue doing that, and if I get 15-30 days suspension for it then so be it. All i ask is a small fundraiser to get my missed wages back.
3/03/2008 04:04:00 PM
You are a moron. You are the police and enforcing the laws of the state is your job. Dui is more grave than a regular moving violation. Wait until you get t-boned by the regular joe that works driving drunk -they made that decision to drive drunk- then tell me how you feel afterwards. So when you sit in your squad car mars lights on and on a traffic stop watch out for regular working joe DUI ramming his car on the rear of your squad car because drunks are attracted to those lights. Make sure you take them home and call the damage to your squad car parking lot damage. Asshat I wouln't buy a benefit ticket to piss on you.
Anonymous said...
Just because someone drives after having a few drinks does not make the person intoxicated. If the officer doesn't have the signs, he cannot arrest for DUI.
3/03/2008 07:34:00 AM
keep practicing the one leg stand, walk and turn and the finger to nose test and you will do alright at home one day you will be a professional drunk
Anonymous said...
What happen to "Probable Cause" for a stop!
Just a call from an anonymous citizen does NOT prove anything!
3/03/2008 09:09:00 AM
person with a gun that turns legit. Stop drunk driving asshats.
concerned p.o.
so called "professional courtesy" is just another way that cops manage to alienate the public at large, probably not intentionally.
you can't give a guy a pass because he is your buddy, while simultaneously engaging in numerous revenue stops the rest of the day without the public feeling it is about as hypocritical as you can get.
3/03/2008 07:28:00 AM
for all the civilians who read this- you have no idea how many people (civilians) are recipients of "officer discretion" on a daily basis. seriously, i write about 1 moving violation for every 10 stops i make. if i can show a civilian some courtesy, why the hell wouldn't i show the same courtesy to another copper?
WHY DO YOU GUYS THINK CUELLO DIDNT HAVE A REAL PROMOTION PARTY WITH LIQUOR. HQ KNEW BUT GUESS WHAT THEY DIDNT CARE IF ANYONE ELSE DID.
WAY TO WATCH OUT 4 DA TROOPS...
Ok Fuck them! I will not write a copper, for anything, if I stop you and you are drunk, You will get a "courtesy ride" home and my partner will drive your car! maybe your not drunk maybe the doctors in the media cannot figure out you could of taken cough syrup for the "flu" and as a responsible officer i was taking you home! Oh they say you were in the bar! Drinking what, prove it was alcohol in every glass/cup/bottle! Maybe you had 1 drink and then drank sparkling water becuase you were sick? The paper trucks it is on now when is that story going to break?
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go fucking home, your not the one who'd blow a career by writting a fellow copper, or be a rat, so when you have a 10-1 no body shows up, I want to go home to my family 20/20.
Hey Jimmy, better stop drinking with all the kiddies. FAT ASS ! Remember your not everyone's favorite !
Some of the biggest jagoffs on the job work the desk.
A family member of mine went into a
north side district and asked for a theft report. The salty old timer at the desk told him to go home and call 911. He told him that his relative, me, advised that he not bother the street guys, as the offender was unknown and no ET was needed.
This crack P.O. said, how do I know you're related to the police, no report.
He was close to the station, that is why he didn't cal 311. He did call later after the vip treatment.
The salty old timer, F/2 that he said looked 20 yoa.
J-Fed,
Put the entire department in day off groups, 1-7. These house cats don't need weekends off. They can do nothing any day of the week, not just M-F.
Carol Marin had a little Nose C too. No arrest though. She was in some hot new club on the low end . State st maybe. Years ago.
3/03/2008 07:02:00 PM
Carol Marin was doing cocaine in a ciub that was in the projects? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. That doesn't sound right, Im sure its wrong, but funny.
"We are really busy and don't have anyone available to help you out."
I call B.S. Every car in 018 was down on a job at 0130. B.S.
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Come on office, gimme a ride. Common what you got. Gimme somethin. I work every day, office!! Common I drinked too much. Gimme a ride. I wants a ride. Gimme it! I's da police. Gis me my ride!
Stop doing stupid crap and you wont have a problem.
Skippy wrongly ID'd (leading story) a UC narcotic's copper as another copper that worked in 011 when the copper in 011 was getting mildly jammed up. Jepordized the UC copper's life, etc., etc. Skippy and news station had to pay out in the 6-figure range. Sweeeetttttt!
Who the eff are these "supposed" police whining about swearing? When I was in the acadamy, the instructors, went out of their way to cuss, to get some people used to hearing it, and get desensitized to the WORDS. That is all they are, words, if you give the words power, that is your problem. If you take it personal, its your own damn problem. I learned from excellent fto's, that your power is also in your pen, and I was able to pass that along to new guys/gals that same advice. Pay attention to this short lesson, when you consider yourself being disrespected by words, does the opinion of that person really matter, does it affect you or your life, or your families lives? Obviously, the answer is NO, so do not let the words bother you, use your pen! Be it another ticket for that TVB, or a really well written case report. And always remember, what comes around, goes around. And if I have any typo's/misspellings, I don't need to be corrected, as I know I, or my typing/spelling are not perfect.
Group 7 said...
J-Fed,
Put the entire department in day off groups, 1-7. These house cats don't need weekends off. They can do nothing any day of the week, not just M-F.
3/04/2008 03:18:00 PM
That airport fraud does nothing
M-F then works on staurday for time and a half.
Come on mumbles, get rid of her.
Carol Marin... Not IN the jets asshat, next to the jets. That's why it didn't last too long. Lot's of cars stolen every night. Down on State St.
"You are a moron. You are the police and enforcing the laws of the state is your job. Dui is more grave than a regular moving violation. Wait until you get t-boned by the regular joe that works driving drunk -they made that decision to drive drunk- then tell me how you feel afterwards. So when you sit in your squad car mars lights on and on a traffic stop watch out for regular working joe DUI ramming his car on the rear of your squad car because drunks are attracted to those lights. Make sure you take them home and call the damage to your squad car parking lot damage. Asshat I wouln't buy a benefit ticket to piss on you.
3/04/2008 12:12:00 PM"
Poor baby.
Life is full of unpredictable hazards and you think that making laws prohibiting dangerous actions will eliminate those hazards?
Or reduce their occurrence?
Hindsight is always 20-20, and there's another meaning to the word 'hindsight', as in seeing the world through your ass-eyes.
You can choose to use those eyes in your ass, just remember to wipe thoroughly before you open them.
Carol Marin... Not IN the jets asshat, next to the jets. That's why it didn't last too long. Lot's of cars stolen every night. Down on State St.
3/05/2008 11:44:00 PM
Yeah..........Down on State st....Right.
Im a uic cop, we saw the video it was taken by two people not tied to 20/20 or any news media. It was really lame. This story has been floating for 4 or 5 months now. See you at this years fundraiser softball game with US and 012 !
I'm pretty sure that "Skippy" got busted being a "Peeper" Early on in his career!!
Rumour has it his brother was convicted for an offense involoving children.
The UIC/CPD softball game as been around for awhile now, it's whole purpose is to raise money for the families of fallen officers. The video in question was bullshit and not filmed by 20/20 but in fact by an anti-police jagoff who goes around to police functions with hidden audio/video in an attemt to "catch" a copper doing something illegal.Despite all the rumors NO COPPERS were filmed drinking in uniform and those who were filmed with a beer in their hand were off duty and obviously over the legal drinking age. There was not any proof as to how much any one person had to drink and if he or she were intoxicated or were too impaired to drive.There was no merit to the video but it did in a way work to the jagoffs advantage because it spawned rumors and accusations among ourselves. The event was and is done for the best cause imaginable, raising money for FALLEN POLICEMEN. Stay Safe out there!!!!
Yes, on State St. What are you, like 25yrs old. You were probably about 5 or 6 then. It was when they first began to develop what would LATER be called the "South Loop". Circa 1987-88 Once upon a time the only buildings on the "Low End" now known as South Loop, were the Jets, warehouses, Warshawskys, Pacific Garden Mission, A couple of firehouses (your only bathroom option), police headquarters and Metropole Hotel, Al Capones old headquarters headquarters.
I worked Housing South with Boone. He is a real nice guy and he will always back you up but he does have some kind of psycho swearing thing going on. I swear like a truck driver. Boone swears like he has Tourettes Syndrome times a thousand. And he swears so loud you'd think he had a megaphone. Like this, "So I fuckin' told fuckin' fuckface motherfucker, fuck you. You fuckin' come fuckin' near me fuckin' again bitch and I'll fuckin' fuck you the fuck up punk fuckin' bitch. Fuck you." Just like that. And he could go on for hours. But he really was a nice Sgt. and he had your back 24/7.
Barber Walters is a hottie
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