The Final Meeting
Yesterday was the last scheduled meeting between J-Fed and Officers. We can't imagine they'll be doing that again any time soon.
A little birdie who attended more than one of the events said attendance dropped off at each successive meeting as the stories of what transpired made the rounds - smoke, more smoke, a whole lot of mirrors, a bunch more smoke and very little substance.
Evaluate - will anything change? Or are we doomed to be bitching here and elsewhere, poking fun at the ridiculous federal man and his Daley-picked staff?
A little birdie who attended more than one of the events said attendance dropped off at each successive meeting as the stories of what transpired made the rounds - smoke, more smoke, a whole lot of mirrors, a bunch more smoke and very little substance.
Evaluate - will anything change? Or are we doomed to be bitching here and elsewhere, poking fun at the ridiculous federal man and his Daley-picked staff?
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posted by SCC at 12:06 PM
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Slightly off topic, SCC, Congratulations on having lasted 3 years running your blog. I am one of your original readers, and just lately went back to your beginning and re-read alot of posts. It just proved that the more things change/the more they stay the same. Check it out, the same gripes/rants/problems have been pretty consistent for the past 3 years. Keep up the good work!!!, I do prefer reading the gossip/rumors here rather than the bathroom walls.
I will have to look into this.
I give J-Fed credit, as to the only Supt. of my 18 years on this job, for even having this kind of meeting.
But, reality check is I highly doubt things will change.
As they say in "the Bureau", Weis is "an empty suit".
Its too early. give the man a chance. lets wait and see what happens. hes only been around for 4 months...
BE HAPPY YOU HAVE A JOB ASSSHATS Keep voting for me and mys peoples
A couple of very serious questions for SCC and the readers of this blog: You all appear jubilant when people are murdered in the very city that you are sworn to serve and protect. You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray! So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
Evaluate - will anything change? Or are we doomed to be bitching here and elsewhere, poking fun at the ridiculous federal man and his Daley-picked staff?
Ding! Ding! Ding! You win the prize and have answered your own question. That about sums it up.
Less talk, more action.
Actions speak louder than words.
Excuses are like assh*les, everyone has one and they all stink.
Step up to the plate.
Sh*t or get off the pot.
Even a dog knows the difference between being stumbled over and being kicked.
Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.
I WOULD'VE ATTENDED ANY NUMBER OF THOSE MEETINGS WHETHER SMOKE N MIRRORS OR NOT, BUT HAVE YOU SEEN THE PRICE OF GAS LATELY
MY ONLY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE ASKED IS " WHY ONLY DO THE 018TH DIST POLICE/ OR DET'S GET CARS/VANS WHEN WORKING THE CHA PROGRAM AT CABRINI. I DONT MIND STANDING, I'M ACTUALLY GETTING GOOD AT IT JUST THOUGHT IT WAS WEIRD. BUEHLER , BUEHLER, ANYONE , ANYONE.
BY THE WAY SUPT. WEIS YOUR DOING A FINE JOB.
Seemed like Aunt Bea got a little upset when pressed about why the FTO's got moved. Anyone else get that impression?
I will give him credit. He answered every question that was thrown out.
If he can accomplish half of what he says he would like to, I don't think he'd be as bad as everyone thinks he is. Only time will tell.
Enough with the Lt Jarmus stories from Area 1. He’s a great boss. He’s brave, all knowing and inspiring. Just ask him. He leads all of us stupid copper by example. He should be put in for Captain as soon as possible. He’s that good really. Anything to get him out of Area 1. PLEASE!!!!
if attendance dropped off....no surprise, what did anyone expect? I mean, J-Fed has limited authority, in the larger sense; it's Daley that in fact runs the whole show; if folks want change, Daley will have to go...
I was at the meeting and I will sayone thing for sure Bea Cuello should be dumped to a Lt. That FTO wa told to basicly quit bitching because he got moved to 009. then she follows it up by saying your patch says Chicago Poilce. I wonder if her old partner who just made meritorious Sgt. will go to far northside District because his patch says Chicago Police also.
Her standard answers were:
I don't know
I will have to look into that
I don't recall
I just wnat to know how she intends to look into anything asked because she sure did not write anything down.
Oh and one other thing for those ofyou that did not attend, according to an unnamed P.O. probably from 017 or 016 if you worked in a fast district you really don't know how to write paper and you have been doing it wrong. He further goes on to tell JFed that PPO's should be sent to slower districts so they can learn to write paper the right way.
I attended the meeting last night.
My impression is the Superintendant is trying to do the right things.
He responded to questions in a manner, that leads me to believe, he is trying to do a good job.
He does not know department proceedures.
He needs to have a staff, that does.
He may have picked the wrong people to guide him through this difficult time.
Guns, arrests, and warrants down. Homicide and shootings up. Statistical fact. In the words of Jim morrison, THIS IS THE END.
The guy was a pretty impressive speaker and was able to stand for hours. Probably because he squats a lot. It kind of looked like wrestlemania when he argued with the bodybuilding tac guy wearing the world gym shirt lol. He seems to be attemting to make things fair while looking out for homeland security and corruption. The problem is he would have made a better Mayor. He is not cut out to manage a local law enforcement agency. If everything he said is true and can occur within the next 2 years, we will be an organized department like Los Angeles.
-Attendee
I will leave the negative comments to everyone else. I am just trying to be optimistic.
I am taking the summer off as sick..good luck little richie and what the jfed ...it will be a hot summer assholes !!!!!
Gee, I couldnt make any of the meetings cause I was busy scratching my ass.
Not that after 25 years I dont think the job is legit mind you, or that I dont think anything will ever change. I really had an itch on my big ass that needed scratching.
And thats about all I do at work now too. Scratch my ass.
UNCLE!
Daley really picked us a doosie.
That idiot Maher is starting to look good.
Anybody hear a rumor that da Bears are gonna trade Weis and 2 future first round draft picks to the Baltimore Ravens for a third-string linebacker?
I still chuckle over the post that said J-Fed "exudes the dynamic charisma of a turnip."
Once again the Trib and J-Fraud publicity maching gets it wrong. 27 May 08, bad guy robs bank in 014. 014th Bluehirt (MK) gets handcuff on badguy and processes badguy along with 2 SWAT guys that were in on the chase while rolling through the district. 28 May 08 Trib says SWAT gets the arrest. Bullshit! This is why morale is fucked up. 1400 on scene. Did someone pass this on to J-Fraud as the "elites" making this arrest. Fuck J-Fraud. Fuck the Trib. We don't need your BS long guns to make a great arrest. Give us a good contract.
SCC,
Take a look at Chicago Crains May 26,08 issue. There is a front page article on the horrendous mismanagment and official misconduct that has occurred and is taking place with the Department of Homeland Security and the Cook County Board.
Tens of millions of our tax dollars that are supposed to be utilized for the new Countywide 911/surveillance system being misappropriated or not accounted for. When will this stop? Is anyone paying attention? Who is in charge of the asylum?
The CPD is lost and plummeting to destruction on a daily basis.
Morale is at rock bottom,there is NO contract,discipline is being metted out in such a blatantly unfair way that people cringe,incidents are occurring at an all time high and there is no resolution in sight.
Fire and strip more innocent coppers that will fix it,NOT!!!
Ask Jody why good honest,hardworking 10+YOJ PO's are hanging it up,quitting and moving on to greener pastures...
Never have I seen as many PO's looking for lateral transfers to different departments.
Could it be that nobody wants to be the next stripped,sued and fired PO???
Somebody help us!!!
I would say you are doomed to be bitching as that is all that you guys do and seem to more than enjoy it. No matter what they do you will not be satisfied. Be men and do what you get paid for.
Little or Nothing is going to happen. It will be the same old dog-and-pony show. it's all shady politics now, not what's morally right and wrong. Forget it, the End Times are here.
IT'S THE SUMMER OF "I TOLD YOU SO",let the Rev's,Ald's and Newsmedia handle the impending riots.God I am glad I didn't speculate on property in Westtown,Bucktown or anything else west of Ashland and South of Fullerton.The city that people have demanded will show it's ugly head this summer.
SCC,
Are you saying that the dog and pony show is finally over???
After all of these meetings what has changed?
NOTHING,same BS,same old lies...
When do the new sergeants hit the street?
Won't be long before his contract is bought out and the city is out a couple hundred thousand and a new sup is annointed.
Now the savages are tearing up court rooms,gotta love Chicago.
The sad part is that even though it's probably a dog and pony show, it was still a chance to beef at the guy in charge. Instead people would rather bitch on here instead of attending meetings concerning our future. Including the FOP meetings, city council meetings that regard our contract. So if you bitch on here and dont go to the meetings shut the fuck up.
In reality can anybody really be surprised that J-Fed took this job with the 300K salary that comes with it?
He's worked in Filfadelphia, PA. He knows to get along (to get ahead) you go along.
For most working schmoes out there, going along, if they're lucky, will provide a modest roof over there families and a
modest pension.
Those that are offered one of the bottom rungs of the Brass Ring, as J- Fed has, might be fools to decline it.
Seriously, honestly, how many of you really would decline the offer J-Fed received?
The truth is most of you would take the money after 20 years of being shorted.
There are a few that -never - would. We don't know their names because they're not inclined to bitch or talk about it, the rest of that ilk are dead.
It's a lot like the guys who have seen battle and in spite of all the bullshit that comes with being a part of any government bureaucracy which can result in your death by virtue of incompetence, the real men-the heroes, do what most others can't, either by virtue of pride or the piss an vinegar of youth.
It's men like that that make it possible for J-Fed, the stuttering midget, Todd Stroger, Blago, et. al. to suck from the teat of the sacrifice of such men and boys.
Most, rgrab what they can as fast as they can. Those wired selfless and willing to sacrifice, I imagine, know a glory few of us can understand. It is a glory not measured in money, things or stuff.
Where do such people come from? Those willing to do what needs to be done and die doing it?
The likes of Daley and the rest laugh at them. They call such people idiots.
Something tells me there is a new post Iraq war generation, the kids that have seen war and made the sacrifices and have seen death and evil. I believe they will make the spirit of the WWII generation proud and the liberal lovey, dovey, crowd of the Sixties that came to control the levers of government by living by the motto, "On my honor, I'll do my best to take for myself and fuck the rest", will be older and older and more bitter for it.
The best part of it is those who lived taking, cutting corners and shorting others will fall asleep each night knowing the whores life they led and the weak children they leave behind, sweating all the while it will catch up with them before they leave this world.
Rant/sorry if it seems a vanity post (SOC) / Off
"The Box Chevy Phantom" says...
COMING SOON TO A VIDEO STORE NEAR YOU!! SAC Weis will be seen falling from the bomb bay astride an ultra-megatonnage shit bomb he attempted to manually dislodge from the plane upon orders by the pilot "l'il deranged dick" daley... Weis will have 1+ million dollars spilling from various pockets and orfices and a cat perched on each shoulder as he disappears from view. The movie is tentatively called either "Gee, Did I Make The Right Decision Here?" or "J-Fed The Fall Guy"
The movie will be followed by never before seen bloopers and a short feature entitled "City Hall Follies" starring that famous traveling troup The 50 Alderthieves & their ring leader That Tallest Dwarf aka The Stuttering Prick!
As I said before. Anyone who attended those meetings other than BELLA, is a top notch bonified MUSH.
Use your heads people. As I also said before, HE IS HERE FOR ONE PURPOSE AND ONE PURPOSE ONLY. TO THIN THE HERD.
COZZI has proved that my friends if you haven't figured it out yet. Get with the program.
Evaluate - will anything change? Or are we doomed to be bitching here and elsewhere, poking fun at the ridiculous federal man and his Daley-picked staff?
Yes, a little bit. And yes, definitely.
No faster way to lose the troops than by screwing over cops,Cozzi was a real loser. For a new guy to hangout someone in his first week or two that set the tone. Now you know why nobody will work.
Keep shafting PO's and you won't have anybody left to do anything.
does anyone working bt812 own a grill you can throw into the car? just grab some caps signage and we can set something up over here. Who can bring the steaks for the BBQ!??!?!?
NOTHING will get better for this dept. or this city until Daley and his band of merry thieves are out.
CHANGE,Obama wants it,we want it.How about CHANGE the way a BLACK MAN raises his family...HE DOESN'T!CHANGE the way we pay taxes for a education system that doesn't teach.CHANGE, the way the police are blamed when changes 1 & 2 don't work in the black world.The impeding riot's of this summer will probably CHANGE the way the new SUPT believes we are not the problem but just a biproduct of a race run amuck.SO CHANGE is what an awful lot of people will be asking for at this time next year as they stand along side streets that USED to have life on them,UNTIL THEY CHANGED!
It's not a matter of IF the city is going to burn,it's just WHEN.You just pray it's not you that is going to be scapegoated and villified.This is the city and country we asked for.
What's the story with that f LT. in 024?
ask J fed if A/2s clearance rate is a joke or does eddie welch keep his job just because he is buddies with Ike Carothers. who cares if the guys a moron that has destroyed a detective area and now has the worst clearance rate in the city. eddie Welch the turd friends and family approach to assigning dicks is getting people killed.
Why can't we have the old fat and corrupt system back?
Way off topic: In the issue of The Pension Advisor that arrived today our elected representative, Steve Robbins said, "The sponsor of our fund is the City of Chicago, and they're doing pretty good."
Huh? This guy is drinking the Kool-Aid. I bet he voted to give that Daley kid our money.
This article is not well thought out and comtains no ideas,
Who is the guy with braids in the sergeant's class who answered his cell phone during a lecture today given by the DOC Commander? Possibly a merit selection? Can't they revoke it for being an ignorant asshole?
1:28 pm post
we do serve and protect but we cant be everywhere all the time. if you did what we did and see what we see, you would agree that some of these people really dont need to be here. they are truly of no use to society. but hey if you are so concerned about them then let them live with you when they have no home so they can sell off your personal property for crack money. or invite the dope dealer into your house so he can sling dope and try to take someones turf so your house can get shot up. we dont need these criminals and drug addicts etc in society so pardon us if we dont care that crackhead got killed trying to steal copper or that a drug dealer got killed slinging dope. thats one less person that is going to hurt an innocent person. does that answer any of your serious questions?
"That idiot Maher is starting to look good."
You must be a COMPLETE moron.maher may look good to you but not Ray Charles. You see my son, even a blindman can see something.
Lt Jarmus is in Area 1 and run the sat team and the gun team. None, and I mean none of us like working for the guy. We try to time your warrants when we know he is not going to be around. And if he is sometimes we just eat the warrant. Or if he is not we just take a LT from whatever district we are doing the warrant in, thank God. He’s nut, unsafe and all about himself. He’s one of those bosses, you know the ones, that when you come with something good, right away he’s on the phone with the chiefs and media wanting to display what he did, oh excuse me, what his guys did. Any other area need a LT, we will give you ours and a draft pick to be name later.
You all appear jubilant when people are murdered in the very city that you are sworn to serve and protect. You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray
hey ace you try to police this city with the number of limited resources we have been given by our great mayor. When i came on this job we had 12000 police officers, all the cars were filled and each district had at least three squadrols not counting 001 and 012 that had four.
The detective division consisted of 1400 detectives in addition to 300 youth officers/investigators.
we had a traffic unit that patrolled the expressways, the boulevards and enforced truck safety laws. we had a special operations unit, sog then sos, gang units that actively pursued the gang bangers not the clout babies now assigned to area gang intelligence with there take home cars.
we were the proactive police. Your godxxxx mayor as states attorney and now as mayor has done away with holding people who we arrested in sweeps for twenty four hours, sending them to a court when they couldn't post a bond.
every thing is an I Bond
the lock ups were filled and the arrestees went to jail and then court when they could not make bond
the politics is worse now than ever. I hope this city goes crazy so the midget mayor will not get his olympics. This is your mayor who allowed the average age of a chicago police officer to be 44 in the year 1992, when the rest of the country was 32.
this bastard allowed the city to hold a parade for a gang banger on saturday, and the police dept. spokewoman has the mentality of my five year old grand child.
I'm sick and tired off all you pukes who say,"Oh give him a chance its only been four months" etc,etc,blah blah blah. No matter what your feelings on Cozzi J-Fed fucked him, he disregarded the police board and stuck it right up Cozzi's ass. As far as I'm concerned he had one chance and that was it. He bowed to the reverends and kept his promise by making sure he never got his job back. At that point if it wasn't clear to you which side he stood on your blind.
A couple of very serious questions for SCC and the readers of this blog: You all appear jubilant when people are murdered in the very city that you are sworn to serve and protect. You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray! So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
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I think you are taking what you read here much too seriously.
Being in this profession makes a person have a very twisted sense of both humor and of what is right and wrong... it is really a surface attitude for self protection.... things are so bad morale wise on this department right now, pipe dreams flourish... without hope for real change, most of us would slip into despair. Our weird sense of humor gets us to say some of these things.
"So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM"
It's called sarcasm& a feeling of futilty. Alot of Us possess that trait due to being subjected to cronyism,clout, malfeasance & incompetence on a daily(Daley) basis.
Sadly, you& your fellow citizens naivety tolerates & accepts this from your elected officals.
Then you have the audacity& gall to label us as malcontents & disgruntled employees.
I encourage you to direct your misguided ire towards those responsible for the current state we're currently in...
I attended the Wright College meeting 27 May 08. I was about 10 minutes late, but I took notes and here are my observations;
J-Fed thinks CPD should hire a P R firm to help project a more positive image of the dept.
( why not just talk about the great work our POs do on a daily basis at every opportunity?)
J-Fed thinks the range should be open 24/7 and 30 rounds is not enough. He thinks retired guys and private professionals could staff the range and the current staff could/should be returned to the streets.
The "Powers Leadership" award, why is it only for Exempt members and not POs who do good things, J-fed punted to BC who mumbled something...no answer.
M Mette, J-Fed promised a letter to the powers that be in Iowa to help him out, but explained his limited power to affect a result, fair enough, he seemed sincere.
GD Parade, here he blamed the OEC and got a pass, but a few of us were wondering, isn't he the guy in charge at OEC?, and that was/is the reason for his huge salary?
J-Fed said his top three priorities in taking over in CPD were
1) reconnect with the community
2) connect with the POs, improve morale
3) keep crime down
He feels he can bring goodwill, financial support, logistical support to the table.
J-fed was asked why 016 tact is sent to 015 on the weekends. He punted to BC who said they have more crime, she was hissed and reminded that WE live in 016, and the district is going to hell, she mumbled something and passed back to J-fed
J-fed talked about his standards of conduct;
1) don't commit crime
2) maintain your integrity, do not lie to make a case
J-fed told two war stories about getting beefed falsely, and said he understands about BS beefs, and he wants BC to develope a screening process to kill beefs that are BS on their face, as in the PO wasn't even on duty that day etc. J-Fed was asked why it takes years to investigate CRs but any asshole has a statute of limitations on their issues. He promised to have some sort of resolution within 90 days or a letter of explaination as to why the delay.
J-Fed said quote "I beg you guys to be aggressive, and work hard"
he acknowledged the statistics on lower police activity, and promised that proper law enforcement will not be punished, there was rumbling and some cat calls, Cozzi's name was shouted .
J-Fed feels the Dept strips POs too soon, and before the facts are known. He said this place is too "gotcha" in its administration of discipline. When asked why we have inspectors he could not really give a sound reason. He feels direct supervisors should do most of the admonishment at the district level and the punishment should not go into the personnel file unless serious. He said a policy will be announced shortly that only he or Jackson will have the authority to strip a PO, and then only if the offense will be such that it will most likely lead to separation.
He was asked again about drinking, and I feel he snuck one in. He said if you take public transportation to a watering hole, and leave the gun locked up at home, you are OK if found intoxicated. He thinks rule 15 should be modernized. He got applause...but I don't think my peers heard the conditions. No gun! so in his world if you have a drink while armed...watch out!
J-fed mentioned Matt Tobias was developing a mentoring program for POs in the hope of nurturing future leaders. No details given.
J-Fed felt POs should have a process to nominate their peers for merit promotions, no details given. Would not budge on the college requirements for hiring or promotion. A PO mentioned it was on a condition when he was hired, J-fed said that seemed unfair, he look into a grandfather clause. But, he promised no exempt would be promoted without a degree
J-Fed feels morale will improve with more toys and he mentioned a few:
Tahoes, rifles, car cameras, better PDTs.
(who the hell is telling him that we patrolmen want cameras? J-Fed, if you are reading this NO ONE IN PATROL LIKES THE CAMERAS!!!! They are a HUGE reason less work is being done! If you want to improve morale shit can the whole camera program YESTERDAY!
J-fed wants the rifles and thinks he can wave aside the city and county assault weapon ban to allow private PO ownership, there were snickers. I wish him well on this, but I don't think he fully understands the politics of Cook Co.
J-fed knows the FTO program is a shambles, he spoke of a corporal rank, or other incentives like points on promotion exams, district of choice after 5 years of honorable service. He mentioned his guy Matt Tobias is working on a new policy to address this.
J-fed thinks the shotgus are less a weapon than the rifle but does not know why they are station bound. He punted to BC who mumbled something, again no answer.
J-Fed thinks the Dept implements new policy without properly pitching it, he called it "framing" it to the troops, Explaining the why, not just the "you will" demand. (he is right about this, too often we patrolmen are made to feel like children by supervisors we neither like or respect, but who want to jam arbitrary dictats down our throats simply to exert their rank.)
An FTO asked why a bunch of FTOs were transferred from 014 to 009 to train recruits. He wondered why the PPOs weren't sent to 014. BC mumbles again but then she said, their patch says CHICAGO, they'll go where sent,, they are getting paid extra; well the place started to boo and hiss her, J-Fed stepped it to bail her out, but she really showed the true EXEMPT attitude toward we patrolmen. Gee, and they wonder why morale is in the sewer?
J-fed really does not get clout either. He is unaware that 009 is a clout district, so of course those coddled PPOs will have the lives of FTOs disrupted to cater to their clout asses. This is such a slap in the face of FTOs as a speciality, senority, rank, discipline, morale. Again, the exempts either don't know or worse, don't care!
J-Fed started to speak of his time with the FBI, he is rather defensive about G-Men and their not being considered "real police".
J-fed was asked why the school unit was disbanded and then re-introduced in another form doing the same function. He punted to BC who mumbled something...no answer.
J-fed thought it would be good to bring it back and have it budgeted out of the school district funds, perhaps as an OT thing for POs.
The staff numbers came up again.
13486, 223 vacancies.
7-900 medical
4-900 IOD
He was asked why we aren't issued wallet badge as well as a shirt badge, he punted to BC who had no answer. He though it a good idea, BC mentioned the poor quality of the "new" badge. J-fed liked the sewn on patch badge on outer garments. He wants a more coherent uniform standard. He's not a hat guy.
J-fed does not like the work schedule, but is leaving it at that pending the contract. He said O'Neil is tasked with getting the contract talks going more aggressively.
He wants us fit to better enable us to survive gunshot wounds and injury, and to better enjoy our retirements. He said he is a fitness buff, but he knows others have life issues, he wants a holistic approach, but the mind set to make us healthier so we live longer, better lives. Again, I found him sincere on this point.
J-fed mentioned a 40 hour training that would butt up to a return from furlough. Matt Tobias was working on this annual training block. I recall a detailed proposal pitched that sounds exactly like this, alas, the PO was told it was not workable...I guess that is unless someone else can take credit for it.
An officer from 016 mentioned a very good idea about training, and mentioned a proposal she submitted
but she never heard any feed back. J-fed commented on the terrible lack of feed back and said he would develope a policy to address this glaring problem. He then talked about his open door policy, and how he actively seeks input from patrol for ways to make things better. He did though admonish us to go chain of command with things that properly should be addressed on the local level.
A Tact officer from 025 mentioned a wave of law suits against POs when cases are tossed by the ASA for no probable cause. J-fed said he'd have Kirby look into indemnification for POs.
J-fed recalls his Army officer days and says he feels the Sergeants are the backbone of this Dept. In most matters he wants to differ to them. He mentioned his being impressed with the resumes he saw submitted by the Exempts prior to his arrival. He thinks he has a great leadership team. ( I must admit, I feel sorry for him. He really just does not understand that every one of those exempts feel they should be in his seat. They smile to his face, but they all hope he fails, so they can take over his job.These same exempts have convinced J-fed that his enemy is patrolmen, when it is they who wish him ill. J-fed, if you are reading this, please understand, we patrolmen have poor morale BECAUSE of these bosses, the clout, the nepotism, the cronyism...we know we do not get a fair shake. We know we will never be considered for a unit, promotion, or perk as a punishment for our not having clout.These exempts are watching you open the door into your nose and laughing at you behind your back. They are your problem. As I listened to you admit your lack of understanding about basic CPD politics and procedures it is proof of what I'm telling you, these bosses you promoted are not loyal to you, they could help you understand, but they will not! They want you to fail! J-fed, PLEASE find patrolmen, and ask them, they will tell you what to expect, watch out for, and explain how things got to this point.)
Summation;
I came away feeling sorry for J-fed, and at the same time liking him. He is a polished public speaker. He fielded questions for 3 hours. I fear hizzoner is setting him up as a fall guy if this is a long hot summer. I know the 300 big ones per year helps ease the pain, but I hate to see someone made a patsy.
Who is the guy with braids in the sergeant's class who answered his cell phone during a lecture today given by the DOC Commander? Possibly a merit selection? Can't they revoke it for being an ignorant asshole?
His name is KIMBLE/ Meritorious
Everyday the same old 3-4 Merit recruit Sergeants showing up late for class with their awards
"crowd of the Sixties that came to control the levers of government by living by the motto, "On my honor, I'll do my best to take for myself and fuck the rest", will be older and older and more bitter for it.
The best part of it is those who lived taking, cutting corners and shorting others will fall asleep each night knowing the whores life they led and the weak children they leave behind, sweating all the while it will catch up with them before they leave this world"
Boy if that doesn't fit the description of the last two Presidential Adminstrations,Congress&Senate, Mayoral Adminstration& City Council,County Board,I don't know what does.
"This is your mayor who allowed the average age of a chicago police officer to be 44 in the year 1992, when the rest of the country was 32."
Huh?? I'll take a 44 year old street wise vet w/a GED&commonsense, over a 22yo College Grad know-it-all who couldn't grab his ass w/ both hands.
So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
Yes,Yes,Oh hell Yes!!!
A couple of very serious questions for SCC and the readers of this blog: You all appear jubilant when people are murdered in the very city that you are sworn to serve and protect. You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray! So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
Yes I did take an oath and yes I am proud of myself. The more gangbangers that get killed the happier I get.
So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM"
you take this comment and shove it up your ass fuck-head
5/28/2008 10:33:00 PM
If this is true and I am a critic who is fair,I say I commend J-Fed on his honesty and his attempt sto help us. I wish him well and hope that things get better on the CPD. I am delighted that he is aware of how messed up the disciplinary policy is.
I will give him more time before judging the man and still wish him well. J-Fed is a welcome change from Fat Phil's corruption and two tier disciplinary system.
5/28/2008 10:33:00 PM
Whoever posted that,Thanks for the synopsis. You must have been a stenographer in your previous life.
When do the new Sgt's hit the streets?
So, Area One's Jarmus almost shot a copper? Big deal! He has done more in his 35 years than most cpd do ever in their careers. Just ask him. Besides, almost doesn't mean shit. He didn't really pop his own guy. Quit making it worse than it was.
Question? Why are negotiating the disciplinary process in the contract when federal indictments are superceding them?
Is FOP spinning their wheels for show only?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A couple of very serious questions for SCC and the readers of this blog: You all appear jubilant when people are murdered in the very city that you are sworn to serve and protect. You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray! So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
THANKS FOR THE COMMENT CIVILIAN!
WELCOME TO OUR WORLD!
Aggressive experienced officers in 016th district arrest a Homicide offender 2/3 of a block outside the district and get "yelled at" by their supervisors for going out of bounds!!! Also get admonished officially on the supervisors log! No thank you, no good job, no great initiative officers, just DISCIPLINE FOR CATCHING A HOMICIDE OFFENDER!!! Also told you will not get a honorable mention or a District commendation for said arrest. Hey Citizen, you think we deserve better than this from our merit promotion supervisors?
Answer up, and answer honestly. You think these 2 officers are going to do anything pro-active in the future??? Next it could be their job, family and livelihood threatened by the bosses for doing the job we love but aren't allowed to do!!!
alot of poster r as soft as puppy shit!
WATS DA BULLSHIT WITH THIS OATH CRAP?
DOES THAT OATH PUT YOUR KIDS THRU SCHOOL?
DOES THAT OATH PAY UR RENT?
DOES THE OATH SAVE UR ASS FROM THE POLICE BOARD?
DOES THE OATH CURE UR WOUND WHEN UR SHOT?
SAVE THE OATHS FOR THE BOYS SCOUTS ITS A JOB! IF YOU THINK U ARE SOME KIND OF PRIEST WITH A HIRER CALLING
RIGHT A PIECE IN THE FOP NEWSLETTER.
AND THE MURDER RATE OH WELL SHIT HAPPENS! WEAR UR PIECE AND U CAN AVOID BEING A MARK. KEEP UR FAMILY OUT OF WAR ZONES AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS .
AND JFED IS JUST SOAKING UP THE CASH CAN U FAULT BLUTO.
28 May 08 Trib says SWAT gets the arrest. Bullshit! This is why morale is fucked up. 1400 on scene. Did someone pass this on to J-Fraud as the "elites" making this arrest.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dude if you really let something like this get your panties in a bunch you have A LOT to learn on this job. Just wait till some Dic's steal a REAL pinch from you. Respond to this in 2 or 3 years when you have 4 years on the job kid.
But if it makes you feel a little better here's a "nice job" to MK.
Sincerely,
the 16th Dist Ranger
To the dude that went to the meeting and posted what was said thanks. I went to one and couldnt make this one. To those of you that sit on your asses and dont go to any of these meetings and bitch on here, you are what is wrong with the department. Stop blaming everyone else and do something about it.
Anonymous said...
A couple of very serious questions for SCC and the readers of this blog: You all appear jubilant when people are murdered in the very city that you are sworn to serve and protect. You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray! So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
That is reality! That is what the politicians, revs, and media created. Go back under your democratic rock. No one wants murders but our hands have been tied by the above people. They made their soup now they will have live with it. When society turns by on the poeple that are sworn to protect them and wishes to follow the murdering thugs/gangs/drug dealers and believe them and all their non-sense and let them have parades on Memorial Day. You just gotta sit back and wonder???? They ain't no alter boys being killed out there. It goes w/ the lifestyle they choose.
"5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM"
Are you proud of YOURSELF, for being a machine hack?
Are you proud of your 'boss', for being the liar, thief and jack-of-all-corruption that he is?
Are you proud of all the rest of the political whores and scam-artists who are the ones most guilty of not giving a fuck about anything, if it doesn't line their pockets?
Are you proud of the 'people' who have done nothing BUT support the above political whores and scam-artists, and who have not exhibited one single iota of being the responsible citizens that SOME citizens are?
Are you proud of the 'people' who demand to be treated like the retarded morons they believe they are not, but who prove by their actions every day that they are?
Are you proud of the insane hypocrisy inherent in someone actually thinking that smart, honest, courageous and decent individuals can continue to be shit on, continue to be treated like disposable diapers and continue to be cluster-fucked by the very retarded morons who claim to be worthy of being 'served and protected', and not, finally, realize that those they have sworn to 'serve and protect' are NOT the hypocritical, retarded morons who don't appreciate shit that anyone ever does for them?
Take your bullshit and ask your 'people' if THEY are proud of themselves.
anonymous said...
...That idiot Maher is starting to look good.
5/28/2008 05:27:00 PM
Please stay away from the medicine chest before you post. Maher never will be anything but an idiot.
the oath? The oath to protect the citizens? We are, and the more gang-bangers & dope dealers that get killed, the safer the citizens will be, as they are ALL Vermon, loosed upon the Streets of Chicago by weak-kneed Liberal DemocRAT politicians, who constantly meddle with the police, who are trying to do their jobs, many who have all but given up, due to these Mental Midget lowlife politicians of Crook County.
"Be men and do what you get paid for.
5/28/2008 06:32:00 PM"
Pass this little piece of advice on to your alder'man', the 'mayor' and every other piece of shit thief and rascal responsible for the rape and pillaging of the taxpaying citizens of this city and county.
Be sure to remember to cover your face when you do so.
"5/28/2008 07:56:00 PM"
How can the raw truth ever be vain?
A couple of very serious questions for SCC and the readers of this blog: You all appear jubilant when people are murdered in the very city that you are sworn to serve and protect. You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray! So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
___________________________________You obviously have NO clue. I did take an oath as did all the lawyers in this city (remember ASA's are included in that). I can uphold my oath everyday I work ridding the streets of drug dealers, users, people who possess guns, robbers, sex offenders...but at the end of the day what good is upholding my oath when the people who are sworn to uphold and prosecute the lawbreakers and put these people away do everything in their power to put them back on the streets to again break the law and then sue me for taking them off the street in the first place? This city and county have created this atmosphere of apathy.
anonymous said...
Its too early. give the man a chance. lets wait and see what happens. hes only been around for 4 months...
5/28/2008 01:27:00 PM
1. he skirted the disciplinary process and federally indicted a police officer
2. In car cameras become a reality. With audio
3. he appoints retired FBI to high spots in CPD, even though they have no police experience
4. Actively negotiates far fetched contract proposals in the media
5. Sends out an order forbidding intoxication OFF duty
6. Refers to us as his 'children'
7. Touts fair promotions, yet a minutae of merit picks come from districts
8. Came up with that stupid POLICE code thingy- the one where the letters all stand for some core value, then promotes our best and brightest like C. Hales. Nice move.
This is all in the first 4 months of a multi-year contract. What more do you need? Morale is in the tank, my friends, and a head-hunting fed is not going to help things. I defended him a ton on this blog when he first got here, but once he skirted the process to indict a copper who already served his punishment, I realized the double standard: we are suppossed to uphold the law impartially, but he doesn't have to. Says a lot right there....
Anonymous said...
A couple of very serious questions for SCC and the readers of this blog: You all appear jubilant when people are murdered in the very city that you are sworn to serve and protect. You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray! So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
The jubilance at the rising murder rate & gleefully awaiting the really warm weather is because apparently WE are the only ones who know the truth of this City, the streets and the scum that slither over it day in and day out. And what we know oh high & mighty civilian is, this City is going to see the truth of what happens when you tie the hands of your hard-working police.
"Our" J-Fed? Hell, he ain't ours - we didn't ask for him, we don't want him. He hasn't a tip nor a clue as to what it is that the officers that he is charged with do day in and day out. He does a FINE job all on his own of making a fool of himself, no help required by any of us.
We all did take an oath. And if you have been reading (and I'm sure you have) you will find we are upholding our oaths. We are doing our jobs to the letter of the law. And not an iota more. No one wants to see the truth in this City, it's so much easier to have a resident whipping boy (or girl). In Chicago - it's the police department.
I,personally am quite proud. And am giddy as a little school-girl knowing what awaits those who have gotten what they have all been wishing for. No one wanted the police doing policework. We are made out to be brutes, lawless, etc, etc.
We, as the rank & file of the Chicago Police Department are fed up with the treatment WE receive from the City, the courts, the aldercreatures, the reverands and the citizens at large. YOU asked for this. YOU demanded it. Well, YOU got it. We are now in a position that we have to worry that stopping the dope dealers, gangbangers, or even traffic violators will not only get a frivolous complaint lodged against us, but could cost us our job, pension and possibly imprison us - solely because we carry a badge & a gun.
So - dear citizen, YOU look in the mirror, look at the City government, the media and ask yourself.... are you proud of what you have created?
A couple of very serious questions for SCC and the readers of this blog: You all appear jubilant when people are murdered in the very city that you are sworn to serve and protect. You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray! So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
Once again, Mr. Citizen blames the police. Again these assholes believe the police are to blame and are we doing the shooting?
...Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
Yes I did take an oath to protect and serve the people of this shitty. Then after dealing with the screwed up exempts, Darren O'Brien, Dick Daley, Eurkel,Gov Blowjobovitch, and fine citizens like yourself, I figured the oath was worth as much to me as it it is to them and you. Nothing but words to collects a paycheck. They and you couldn't give a rats ass about me so why should I give you the same respect?
Here's a question for you fine citizen. Why for the sake of God himself would you keep electing these so called "leaders" when all they do is screw you and take what you've rightfully earned? Why would you year after year , decade after decade, entrust these select few to have such amazing control over your life as you know it? Are you a sheep? Are you such a buffoon as to let these moronic short yellow bus riding jag off's tell you what is good for you and your soul?
Deep down you are worse than I. You want to be left alone so you and your kin can have a government job without the mere disturbance of thought as to what is right and just. You can get what you deserve. ME!
Now go fuck your sister you imbecile Bridgreport living motherfucker.
Email me if you have a pair you dingleberry!
Westcidedog@gmail.com
J-Fed may be an excellent public speaker. What has he produced? A merit list? Who the fuck really cares? Most anyone can look at a promotional list and figure out with decent accuracy who the merits were/are.
The only 'action' I've seen is against us.
He can have meetings til the cows come home, or the Cubs win the World Series. All that really tells me is that he is all but admitting he is in way over his head, he can't trust the people he has surrounding him and he is trying to con us into thinking he gives a rats ass about the backbone of this department.
We get enough BS crammed down our throats from Dicky Boy & his buddies and the changes he's made within command of the Department, and let's not forget good ole Mark of the FOP. We don't need 'love-ins' with this guy - we need a leader.
He's proven he can't be trusted. He's proven he doesn't have a fuckin clue as to what a police officer does. He's proven he doesn't know a damn thing about our court systems. Basically, he's proven to all of us he doesn't give a good G*d damned - he's here for the money. Which, I gotta say given the chance I'd take it too. But at least have some idea of what you're stepping into. He hasn't. How can he effectively run this Department when he hasn't even taken the smallest step to learn what it is to be a police officer?
Despite the fact I wasn't happy they brought a Fed here I was really open-minded. I expected hiccups from him. But still held out hope that he could be an administrator - which is what we need. He isn't. Daley has an agenda, that no one is privvy to yet & Jody is merely a figure head to carry out whatever this agenda is.
After he shafted Cozzi, a light went on for alot of us. A few more incidents and alot more lights went on. We got smart. Do what's required and the new boogey man won't come get you. The City & the bosses are getting scared. They KNOW what's coming - and the bullshit numbers they have been feeding the media are a complete joke. So - now we're starting to hear from districts across the City about the 'scare tactics' of the bosses to 'make' us work. You want my car? Take it. It's not hurting my feelings, or my paycheck.
Humpers? We heard our new DC is going to re-introduce them too. I've been doing this job a LONG time. If need be do they really think I can't give the illusion of productivity? Plain & simple - no signed complaints? No arrest. When I code my jobs, I make sure I put in the comment section that there was no complainant on scene & that I observed no illegal activity.
Do I like the little jagoff's snickering and laughing as we drive by? Hell no. But they know the score as well as we do. Lockin Pooky up for dope or chasing down and getting Mooky with a pistol isn't worth getting fired or indicted for. The tides will change. They have to, or this City will burn. Until the tide changes and we can do our jobs with the support of our supervisors - I'll keep a fresh bag of marshmallows in my bag....
6:32PM: Pay us what we are worth and the job will be Done!
J-fed recalls his Army officer days and says he feels the Sergeants are the backbone of this Dept
//Then what do the Lt's do again?
couple of very serious questions for SCC and the readers of this blog: You all appear jubilant when people are murdered in the very city that you are sworn to serve and protect.
BUT WE WOULD RATHER BE OUT THERE FIGHTING CRIME, BUT DUE TO THE CURRENT MISMANAGEMENT CANNOT , FEARING, JUSTIFYABLY SO THAT WE COULD LOSE OUR JOBS FOR SOME TECHNICALLITY THAT IS POSSIBLE FOUND YEARS LATER
You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray!
YES, BUT AGAIN NONE OF US CAME ON THE JOB CHEERING ...IT WAS BEATEN INTO US BY THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION AND YEARS OF PRIOR MISMANAGEMNT AND FROM THE SILENCE OF THE MASSES WHEN THE REVERANDS CRUCIFY HARD WORKING POLICE
So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office?
YES WE DID AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN UPHOLD THAT OATH IS TO TRY AND CHANGE THINGS OURSELVES ...BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HAS SAT AND WATCHED FOR YEARS AND THE POLITICAL REPRESENTATIVES ONLY TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES
Did that oath mean anything?
IT CERTAINLY DOES AND WE WISH THAT OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION WOULD CHANGE ENOUGH POLICIES SO THAT WE COULD DO SOME POLICEWORK AGAIN
Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
AND OF COURSE DEEP DOWN WE ARE NOT...BUT THAT IS JUST A CASE OF LETTING OFF SOME MUCH NEEDED STEAM....HOORAHHHHHHH
RE: So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
Yes we did didn't we... But when you have savages running wild as they rape, shoot, kill, steal, sell dope and just drain the system dry while our corrupt elected officals and fake revs cry out for a useless piece of shit that was slapped in a wheelchair..
. to that I say fuck-you and this city.
I worked for Jarmusz when he was a Sgt in A2. He drove us crazy some nights, wanting to load up with shotguns and find some identity thief or some other nonsense. Ruined many a relaxing evening.
That being said, Jarmusz submitted more department awards than all the other sergeants combined in A2. He took care of his troops and never refused to help anyone.
There are hundreds of worse people to work for on this department than Dave Jarmusz.
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
I did take an oath except the illegal alien loving assholes of this city make me violate it everyday. So why should I care when some non taxpaying citizen that will sue me and try to take everything that I have worked hard for in my life kills each other? I won't, let the welfare ridden ghetto and the illegals have a hay day with each other. 3 birds with one stone. Lower taxes, less illegals, and J-Fed looking for a job.
5/28/2008 10:12:00 PM
U mustn't really work in Area 1. Go back to your lock up in 006 and shut your hole.
Area 1 Gang Guy
I give J-Fed credit, as to the only Supt. of my 18 years on this job, for even having this kind of meeting.
But, reality check is I highly doubt things will change.
5/28/2008 01:02:00 PM
bull shit Terry "you can't have a flashlight" Hillard had these po only meetings too!
So, Area One's Jarmus almost shot a copper? Big deal! He has done more in his 35 years than most cpd do ever in their careers. Just ask him.
Yeah, but has Lt. Farva done anything worth doing?
Hey anonymous (28 May, 8:51pm), it doens't sound like Obama needs to change a thing. He's a decent, well educated dedicated family man already. Sounds like from what you have in your post like YOU need to change your attitude towards minorities. If you're patrolling in "the hood" with all that baggage in your head, please bid back into someplace with a higher population of non-black people. Officers like you give us all a bad name, and I have no doubt that people pick up on your hate in a second. I didn't see anybody post here after that Irish PO's recent fiasco in Niles that all of them should be re-educated.
anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
A couple of very serious questions for SCC and the readers of this blog: You all appear jubilant when people are murdered in the very city that you are sworn to serve and protect. You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray! So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
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Apply for a job, get hired and spend years doing this job and then it will make sense to you. Until then you are on the outside looking in on a world you know nothing about. It ain't like on TV.
He is not the first to hold these meetings, Hillard had them, at the areas. Surprise, pretty much the same questions/complaints and the same answers. But at least Hillard was one of US.
TO 05/28/08 01:28:00pm
Shut the fuck up STUPID. You have got to be a civilian because you have know idea whats's going on here.Any real working policeman understands what this is all about.If you are a sworn police officer you have been spending to much time under a desk.You are clueless.If you are the POLICE you are one of the reasons why this department can't stick together on anything.SHAME ON YOU!
Anonymous said...
I attended the Wright College meeting 27 May 08. I was about 10 minutes late, but I took notes and here are my observations;
Fed mentioned Matt Tobias was developing a mentoring program for POs in the hope of nurturing future leaders. No details given.
J-fed knows the FTO program is a shambles, he spoke of a corporal rank, or other incentives like points on promotion exams, district of choice after 5 years of honorable service. He mentioned his guy Matt Tobias is working on a new policy to address this.
Sounds like Tobias is back. What did he do to earn respect from JFED? His past signs forgiven, hands were washed, confession said and he is pure again. Amazing how clout works. Cozzi is screwed and MT is in power again.
Anonymous said...
A couple of very serious questions for SCC and the readers of this blog: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
You said, "a couple of questions." That's three questions. Ahh, that's close enough. You are hereby graditated from 8th grade CPS.
After listening to the head Puke bullshit everyone all I have to say is after the little midget dumps him he can open up a used car lot on Western ave.
What's the story with that f LT. in 024?
5/28/2008 09:31:00 PM
Why? What stupid shit did she do now. She is a goof.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm sick and tired off all you pukes who say,"Oh give him a chance its only been four months" etc,etc,blah blah blah. No matter what your feelings on Cozzi J-Fed fucked him, he disregarded the police board and stuck it right up Cozzi's ass. As far as I'm concerned he had one chance and that was it. He bowed to the reverends and kept his promise by making sure he never got his job back. At that point if it wasn't clear to you which side he stood on your blind.
5/28/2008 10:28:00 PM........................................He didn't just FUCK Cozzi.....he fucked our entire system of legal and administrative punishment.I don't know Cozzi,and it sounds like his brain shifted into neutral that day,but a fed indictment???Cozzi has been persecuted and suffered enough for his stupidity.Now he's looking at federal time.If Jody the Jag did this as a lesson for the rest of the department,it worked in spades.I realized that my boss will continue to persecute me if he's not happy over the normal administrative process.I have pretty much cut contact with the public to a bare minimum.....if activity suffers,oh well,I'm not getting involved in something that Jody can make an example of.Do you see what happens Jody?When you fuck a stranger in the ass?
i did not go to any of the meetings. i was to busy drinking beer in my backyard and taking care of my property and family. j-fed is persona non grata with my family and all fellow officers i know because of the "cozzi" incident. i consider all po's to be an extended family so to speak and j-fed attacked my family when he jack potted billy. j-fed, you want my attention, talk to fizgerald and right the wrong you did to cozzi.
5/29/2008 06:22:00 AM
He wasn't Irish asshole, unless his residence is in fucking Ireland. Last time I checked he was an American just like the rest of us white folks.
Mr Weis,
Two things:
#1) If you want to understand our situation a little better, watch the movie "High Noon".
#2) I'd like my partner back.
Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
You are an idiot. Of course, I took an oath - I do protect the civilized and good people's of the city and I am very proud of it. However, I refuse to protect and be proud of the uncivilized savages that you believe are soooo innocent. I just wish that when these animals (gangbangers,etc...) get shot they would freaking just "DIE"!!! As long as they kill each other - who gives a f#$@%. Less taxes of mine pay for their 10babies from 10 different baby momma's, their link cards, their free health benefits, etc... I am tired of having to work my ass off while these mopes stand on corners all f#!#ing day waiting to get shot. Why don't you ask these same animals - where are their morals, values, and pride, their oath to be a civilized human being??? And If you do ask them this question, don't be surprised to get this response - "HUH"- or "u talking to me" - As they are looking straight at you and you them. You liberals and yuppies are to blame for this mayhem. Because of your sympathy. If you feel so bad for these savages, why don't you move to the west side and live with them. You wouldn't probably last - like they say in the west side - not even a west-side "minute". Go move back to the suburbs and mingle with the rest of you group - You are PATHETIC.
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
What's the story with that f LT. in 024?
5/28/2008 09:31:00 PM
What fat LT in 024?
I think one point that everyone keeps missing and why I'm holding out hope that J-Fed might make some decent changes around here is this man thinks like a Fed. By that I mean he isn't coming here to collect his $900K (very nice check) and then retire. I'm betting this guy wants to use this city as a stepping stone to a much more lucrative private sector job giving speeches, lectures, and consulting jobs. You can't do things like that if you don't succeed with your first large task, i.e. reforming Chicago Police Department. I have attended more than one of his meetings. I have also worked for another large Department before coming to Chicago. I think J-Fed is as amazed as I was when I got to Chicago and realized everything from our equipment, paper reports, and tactics are still from the early 80's. Of course who would want anything to change? It's all worked so well for so long, why not keep things the Chicago Way?? After all...this is the best department in the Country.
J-fed recalls his Army officer days and says he feels the Sergeants are the backbone of this Dept.
BACKBONE. MY SGTS HAVE NO BACKBONES. THEY TALK THE TALK BUT NO WAY IN HELL CAN THEY WALK THE WALK. TIME TO TAKE YOUR MEDS AND START SHOWING SOME APPRECIATION FOR YOUR WORKERS BEFORE THEY ALL BID SOMEWHERE ELSE.
Whomever took the time to write the post on the Jfed meeting at Wright, thank you, very concise.
This is all in the first 4 months of a multi-year contract.
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Or should you say his first $100,000 of salary.
Isn't it amazing that throughout all of those SOS investigations where bosses turned their heads that everyone forgets all of the rank positions that TOBIAS held before he was spiritied away to the academy. They were all at SOS!!! Then he splits and leaves someone else holding the bag. AND he comes out smelling like a rose????
A couple of very serious questions for SCC and the readers of this blog: You all appear jubilant when people are murdered in the very city that you are sworn to serve and protect. You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray! So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
5/28/2008 01:28:00 PM
I am not a cop. I am an ordinary citizen. Have you not been comprehending what is going on here? I mourn the loss of the police of my childhood when I read what cops are going through now. All the glad handing, political pressure and civil rights race card bullshit has made them a target just for showing up for work. Cops used to be cops. They were feared. You were happy if you got a break AND appreciative. The had the final word, they were authority figures. Now, it's all backwards. You don't get that?
I say, let the bangers and shit heads all kill each other. Let them deal their dope and drink on the parkway and fuck them all. That shit doesn't happen in my neighborhood and that's all I care about.
Wake up.
Hey Dave, quit posting, we know its you! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OFF TOPIC
4 ON and 2 OFF-- 8 hours per day. It's called a "stress week." Nice schedule, you’re off before you know it. J-Fed and Donahue please consider it. Everything being taken into account this is a great schedule for both the Patrolmen and the city. The Patrolmen finally eliminate not only the six day but the fifth day too, less days worked in a row means less overall stress. For the city the schedule is easy to implement, has the same number of off-groups, the same number of hours for time due, the same overtime rate and the same number of furlough days. Everybody wins….Think about it.
Are you proud of YOURSELF, for being a machine hack?
Yes.
Are you proud of your 'boss', for being the liar, thief and jack-of-all-corruption that he is?
Yes.
Are you proud of all the rest of the political whores and scam-artists who are the ones most guilty of not giving a fuck about anything, if it doesn't line their pockets?
Some butt not all.
Are you proud of the 'people' who have done nothing BUT support the above political whores and scam-artists, and who have not exhibited one single iota of being the responsible citizens that SOME citizens are?
Yes, I'm an Irish man-whore and proud of it!
Are you proud of the 'people' who demand to be treated like the retarded morons they believe they are not, but who prove by their actions every day that they are?
Yes, it's job security.
Are you proud of the insane hypocrisy inherent in someone actually thinking that smart, honest, courageous and decent individuals can continue to be shit on, continue to be treated like disposable diapers and continue to be cluster-fucked by the very retarded morons who claim to be worthy of being 'served and protected', and not, finally, realize that those they have sworn to 'serve and protect' are NOT the hypocritical, retarded morons who don't appreciate shit that anyone ever does for them?
Could you rephrase those words so the resemble a sentence? Thanks!
Take your bullshit and ask your 'people' if THEY are proud of themselves.
Q: Peeps, r u proud?
A: Heck yes! G*d bless Canaryville!!
Unbelieveable that MT, the big guy of SOS, is still in the game. MT knew what those misfit "rouges" were doing, ignored the CR #'s, missed court, multiple beefs, etc. and is still in power collecting over 130G a year. Un-fuckin-believable. Talk about accountability.
MT heading up a mentor program??? Are you kidding me? Shouldn't this guy be indicted????? And you wonder why morale is down???
6:32PM: Pay us what we are worth and the job will be Done!
Can you really afford the pay cut?
Oh the Insanity:
From the Heart of Darkness that is the CPD:
From the 60 Minutes Web Site:
(CBS) Sunday, June 1, 2008
OFFICER HERRERA GOES PUBLIC - Indicted Chicago Police Officer Keith Herrera speaks for the first time publicly about his former unit, the Special Operations Section, members of which are accused of crimes including armed robbery and kidnapping, in one of the largest police scandals in Chicago history. Katie Couric reports. Producers are Tanya Simon, Andrew Metz and Michael Radutzky.
From J-FED:
Fed mentioned Matt Tobias was developing a mentoring program for POs in the hope of nurturing future leaders. No details given.
J-fed knows the FTO program is a shambles, he spoke of a corporal rank, or other incentives like points on promotion exams, district of choice after 5 years of honorable service. He mentioned his guy Matt Tobias is working on a new policy to address this.
Sounds like Tobias is back. What did he do to earn respect from JFED? His past signs forgiven, hands were washed, confession said and he is pure again. Amazing how clout works. Cozzi is screwed and MT is in power again.
5/29/2008 07:54:00 AM
God help us all.
Anonymous said...
Isn't it amazing that throughout all of those SOS investigations where bosses turned their heads that everyone forgets all of the rank positions that TOBIAS held before he was spiritied away to the academy. They were all at SOS!!! Then he splits and leaves someone else holding the bag. AND he comes out smelling like a rose????
5/29/2008 03:05:00 PM
Clout rules. He hung out his sgt friends out to hang and he survives. He will design a new FTO program? Who was in charge the last two years? Leadership program? Pipe dreams. I remember him in SOS. Clueless there and clueless at academy.
Anonymous said...
J-fed recalls his Army officer days and says he feels the Sergeants are the backbone of this Dept
//Then what do the Lt's do again?
5/29/2008 01:30:00 AM
Is this a trick question? What do LTS do? Are you kidding me. A retirement job without retiring. What a absolutely useless position. The onlt reason PO's strive to be sgts so they have a shot at LT and then retire.
Anonymous said...
I worked for Jarmusz when he was a Sgt in A2. He drove us crazy some nights, wanting to load up with shotguns and find some identity thief or some other nonsense. Ruined many a relaxing evening.
That being said, Jarmusz submitted more department awards than all the other sergeants combined in A2. He took care of his troops and never refused to help anyone.
There are hundreds of worse people to work for on this department than Dave Jarmusz.
5/29/2008 01:50:00 AM
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I have to agree with the above post. I also worked Mids in A/2. Dave was a stand-up Sgt and was willing to go out with you to Pick up a Suspect. I'm sure he is just as stand up as a Lt.
You want the story of f/LT. in 024,I can give a short version.P.O. off duty in bar on Devon ave. he goes to leave and shitbags outside give him trouble ,words are exchanged P.O. goes back in bar. Shitbags then apparently go and get a bigger shitbag,so when P.O. leaves bar again big shitbag punches P.O. and pushes him back in bar punching him. Female bartender tells shitbag to stop that he is hitting P.O. shitbag says"good".Bartender calls police 10-1 is given out.All shitbags run and get away.Now the great LT. arrives.Her to from says"I smelled alcohol on his breath and felt he may be in violation of rule #--".P.O. was taken to station and ordered to blow.HE obviously blew over.00 and she got a CR# on him. I do not know if he was stripped.There was video in bar to back his story and IAD went and got a copy last Friday.
Do not transfer to Northlake Police. Chief Koletsos sucks. Write on the blog BURGSCOPCHICAGO.
You gleefully await the warm weather when more people will hopefully be murdered so your J-Fed looks like a fool. Hooray! So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
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We aren't hoping for mayhem and death. We are sure that it will occur, especially when the weather gets warmer. It happens every year. This will be a test for the new regime.Sometimes it comes to this to get effective change. In the long run every one will be better off, but something has to change, something has to come to a head
I'm an ordinary citizen too. And it bugs me that police morale is this low too. I'm not in sympathy with gang apologists or those who hold individual blameless for their actions.
What I want to ask is, is there anything I can do to help? I do mean seriously. Are there any activist organizations where we ordinary people can have influence equal to the groups that are currently part of the problem? I guess our silence might be understood as consent, but it is not. We are as frustrated as you are, but need to act. There are no more places to run to, every town has its problems. So how can we make it better? How can we show support in a meaningful way, one that will help change things?
1:28 pm post
we do serve and protect but we cant be everywhere all the time. if you did what we did and see what we see, you would agree that some of these people really dont need to be here. they are truly of no use to society. but hey if you are so concerned about them then let them live with you when they have no home so they can sell off your personal property for crack money. or invite the dope dealer into your house so he can sling dope and try to take someones turf so your house can get shot up. we dont need these criminals and drug addicts etc in society so pardon us if we dont care that crackhead got killed trying to steal copper or that a drug dealer got killed slinging dope. thats one less person that is going to hurt an innocent person. does that answer any of your serious questions?
Very interesting point. You should write for the Trib hahahaha
"So I ask: Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?"
To my dear optimistic liberal scholar friend, we need people like you in the education system. In the criminal justice system you are respected less than the one in the baggie pants. If you have been listening to these posts, than you should understand that these people our trying to accomodate you. You do not wish any harm to the scum bag and they are willing to leave the scumbag alone. You are the one who brings mayhem. If you were in tune with the increase of crime in the suburbs you would know that police in Chicago have been doing their jobs correctly.
Didn't you all take an oath of office? Did that oath mean anything? Are you proud of yourselves, hoping for murder and mayhem?
I sure am. The oath is based upon the belief you are just and so is what you do. However, it has been politicized and whored out for convienance, so take the oath and eat it. The sheep are being led to slaughter by those in sheeps clothing. Maybe in all this mayhem, positive results wil occur, otherwise this city is f-ed and so are u.
Has anyone noticed the guy who works a tact team in 25 that looks like the actor who played the cowardly lion in The wizard of OZ. Putem Up!!!!!!!
" How can we show support in a meaningful way, one that will help change things?
5/29/2008 08:42:00 PM"
Register to Vote
Vote In Every Election
Never Vote For the Incumbent
That would be a start.
"Can you really afford the pay cut?
5/29/2008 06:46:00 PM"
Go Suck the mayor's ass.
Oh yeah, you already do.
Never mind.
I'm not a Chicago cop. I just live here.
I want a crime-free neighborhood to live in. That means I want Pookie and Mookie fucking scared to start shit. I want them to piss their pants in fear every time they see a blue-and-white drive by. I want them to know that they can either toe the line or get their asses beat by the police.
I just want the police to be the police again. Every internal affairs dickweed and every reverend needs to be told to shut the hell up and keep it to themselves and let the police be the police.
Anonymous said...
I'm not a Chicago cop. I just live here.
I want a crime-free neighborhood to live in. That means I want Pookie and Mookie fucking scared to start shit. I want them to piss their pants in fear every time they see a blue-and-white drive by. I want them to know that they can either toe the line or get their asses beat by the police.
I just want the police to be the police again. Every internal affairs dickweed and every reverend needs to be told to shut the hell up and keep it to themselves and let the police be the police.
5/30/2008 03:05:00 AM
So do we, so do we.
The City & Department has tied our hands. BUT - as long as citizens such as yourself continue to sit on yours nothing will change.
The legit public NEEDS to start rattling the cage doors they are being locked behind (to protect them from the Mookies' & Pookies) - to stand up, be counted, to be heard.
I and I'm sure others do appreciate your support - it's a rare commoditity these days.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Isn't it amazing that throughout all of those SOS investigations where bosses turned their heads that everyone forgets all of the rank positions that TOBIAS held before he was spiritied away to the academy. They were all at SOS!!! Then he splits and leaves someone else holding the bag. AND he comes out smelling like a rose????
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You ever think that maybe MT is the one that prompted the investigation?
Brought the whole thing to IAD or the FBI in fear of this whole thing affecting his future? Like G.O's say to do!
Maybe the whole thing was started earlier than his tenure there. By a previous Commander or situation.
FYI, Commanders are told of confidential CR's and concur with the investigation brought into them by IAD.
It wouldn't surprise me if he prompted it or if it was an ongoing investigation he inherited when he came back to SOS and he had to "let things continue" the way they were all the while having knowledge and reporting to whomever.
Even the next guy coming in or the one after that had been briefed on the investigation and advised to let things go. Who really knows!
The fact is can one really say what and how the investigation was initiated and originally handled?
One can tell you this though, If you HANG THE POLICE and show you are a mangement player.....then UP YOU GO! (At least in the old Regimes!)
Just some thoughts with no real facts of the case at SOS!
Although I didn't hear the story about LT Diggleberry almost shooting a policeman, It holds true to his nature. For all of those who stick up for him, maybe you'll be the next guy he draws down on with his Banelli, or maybe he'll get your victim shot at during a "sting operation", or maybe your family will be the victims of one of his illegal search warrants, or maybe hell send you or your family to the hospital due to his negligence.----Don't think so----It's all happened and doesn't sound like it will stop. ---But hey, at least some of you got awards for those heroic deeds---Way to go Diggleberry!
Anonymous said...
I'm not a Chicago cop. I just live here.
I love you,will you run for mayor?you got 13,500 votes...well maybe just under 8,000(When you win you can release the real numbers)...
"Anonymous said...
I'm not a Chicago cop. I just live here..."
We also live here, and like you we also VOTE here. Thank-you, we appreciate your support, and speak up to your elected officials. From this blog you will know what to say.
In the district I where I work, everybody is in on the act. If an alderman, or his lacky, calls they get a few minutes of, "What the hell is going on with..."
.....He is not the first to hold these meetings, Hillard had them,.....HECK CONLISK HAD 'EM, CALLED FOR ESPRIT DE CORP AND GAVE EVERYBODY 3 HOURS TIME DUE WHO ATTENDED.
to 1:28
Very Proud Mr. Asshat!But not for the reason you mention.
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What is the story with the fat commander in 24?
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