Thursday, May 29, 2008

Is This a Quota?

From the comments:
  • 26may08 - 008 3rd watch - Lt. Carson E. does a stand-up roll call/inspection on Memorial Day against G.O. Lt. C.E. then asks one P.O. "where is your hat?" and the P.O responds, "in my car." Lt. C.E. they tells P.O. to go get it. The entire watch stands at attention while P.O. makes the trip across 63rd st to get his hat. While P.O. is gone Lt. C.E. relates to the watch that the reason for the holiday inspection is punishment because on the previous day 25may, bt. 822 turned in their humper (daily activity log) with no activity. He then carries on to say that he personally gave Bt 822 a command to pick up activity because aldermen were beefing to which Bt. 822 did nothing.

    27may08 - 008 3rd watch - Lt. Carson E. passes out new updated humpers (daily activity logs) to all beat and rapid cars and relates that officers must complete them every single day or suffer serious consequences. He then tells the entire watch that they must increase their activity in order to stay on their cars. He says that he will personally check to see that nobody puts bullshit numbers on the humpers. He concludes by saying that activity is way down on 3rd watch and that it is not going to be tolerated.
An acting watch commander demanding "activity" in front of an entire roll call worth of witnesses? Could you define the "activity" desired lieutenant?
  • Tickets? We don't have a ticket quota - or at least that's what the City, Union and everyone seem to agree on publicly. Is that curtain finally falling?
  • Arrests? Is the watch being ordered to violate civil rights of persons engaged in their constitutionally protect rights to assemble, gather and flash gang signs on street corners? J-Fed has already proven that he'll refer anything he feels isn't punished enough to his buddies over at the US Attorneys Office. The loss of a start time or a car doesn't seem like a big deal compared to a few years in the Federal joint.
  • Contact Cards? That would involve contact with the public and having contact with citizens leads to accusations of verbal abuse, physical restraint and questions about professionalism. And a contact card (which Monique says is exactly like a warning ticket, despite the fact Chicago has never had "warning tickets") just proves that you actually met your accuser. Since IPRA and J-Fed are looking to hang coppers, it's like cutting your own throat.
  • Event numbers? Oh, we got plenty of those. We drive by all sorts of spots and get those. We get to use the radio! If we close our eyes and hold our noses, we can almost imagine we're driving a car with under 147,000 miles, no smell of dead ass, windows that keep the rain out and a slightly used rifle in the trunk - you know, like a professional department.
This is what passes for leadership nowadays - blanket punishment of an entire watch, demands to violate Department policy, threats to remove people from assignments. Way to motivate the troops!

UPDATE: Some of our more "brilliant" readers are missing the point. The point isn't lack of activity - it was a complete lack of ability to motivate activity out of the watch officers and resorting to that time honored tradition of bullies everywhere - threats - which time and time again never ever works. Especially on cops.

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262 Comments:

Anonymous HATER said...

GIVE HIM RD#S AND PLENTY OF THEM COMMANDER LOVE REPORTS BEING MADE.

BUS CHECKS ALSO NO CASH FOR THE CITY!

NONSENSE ARREST

EG.
THROWING TRASH FROM A VEHICLE
OPEN HYDRANT.
ANY TRAFFIC ARREST
BLOCKING THE STREET
DRINKING

OF COURSE U HAVE THE SISSIES WHO DONT WANT TO LOSE THEIR PRECIOUS EARLY CAR. WRITE PARKER ON THE BOGUS TEMP PLATES THAT COME BACK BELONGING TOO NO ONE.

5/29/2008 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time and rank really makes people change. Carson was a dog ass when he was a patrolman in 013 and 014 years ago. He was also a kind of Rebel Rouser. I guess he's getting senile.

5/29/2008 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dunno... wear your hat, put foot and a bs premise check on your humper. Easy enough, been this way for a long time. Stupid game played every day in a lot of districts... besides, who shows up to a stand up roll call without a hat?

5/29/2008 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt.C.E. is a miserable hag who thinks his sh*t don't stink. Go to hell you piece of sh#t lt!

5/29/2008 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Bob Bee Man Tee Ah said...

Art E. Stork, post humerously said...
I have no reason to question the veracity of the statements about LT C. Earnest, but can someone else verify this???

I only ask because it does not sound like the guy I worked WITH, on the watch, 12 years ago in 8. maybe time changed him, and maybe being a boss changed him.

If so, I am saddened that "one of us" could so easliy become "one of them" .

Merit or not, do you have to sell your WHOLE soul to the devil??

5/28/2008 01:05:00 PM



OUCH!

5/29/2008 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This goes to everyone, not just those on 3rd watch in 008. DO NOT let these jag-off bosses strong arm you into activity only to make them look good! That is putting YOU out on the line..and for what?.. the way things are going now, do you really think that same jag-off boss will back you when you get caught up for doing proactive police work? Hell no! Especially with J-Fed so eager to get rid of us, you know that boss'll be hiding out somewhere.

5/29/2008 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's an asshole, but he's totally within his rank as WC to put people on cars and take them off. He can make you stand at attention for inspection and make you get your hat.

If you don't want to do what he tells you, don't. You won't get fired, but you'll suffer some consequences.

All this crying to SCC because some WC is a jerk.

God, this department has really become a bunch of pussies.

5/29/2008 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe he is suggesting sandbagging? I hope the watch sticks together.

5/29/2008 01:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This pickle mustache tickler would be the first mother fucker bitching if he were still a p.o. I guess using those handle bars while on your knees gets you far as a fucking merit.

5/29/2008 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very foolish move. The hardass thing doesn't go over well in this department. I expect that the political hack will get less activity than ever. BTW stay off the zone, you talk too much lieutenant.

5/29/2008 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous westside, inside do-nothing said...

This jagbag must be formed from the same mold as Lt. John Andrews from 011. A couple years back, while as the the Field Lt., he called for an assist car on a traffic stop w/4 heads. The beat car rolls up, properly secures all occupants and proceeds to check vehicle, name check and contact card all occupants. Upon sending the four productive Westside members of society on their way, the good Lt. immediately calls for the sector Sgt. to spar the officers for not having a beat tag on the car. True story. Not sure if the spar ever materialized, but the order by J.A. was initialized. He's since mellowed considerably, but is not to be trusted.

5/29/2008 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this the same Lt CE who used to say "FUCK THEM WHITE-SHIRTS!" on a daily basis when he was a patrolman for 20 years?

Why are we not surprised?

5/29/2008 01:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPD...welcome to the Suburban model!!

5/29/2008 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Jeff (Tricky) T/1130 said...

Now that I'm thoroughly distracted by all the anti-supervisory rants spewed forth in this posting, I can inflate my blow-up man-doll and give him more than 2 minutes of affection. SCC, consider yourself commended for being the catalyst of my sexual prowess!

5/29/2008 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's a perfect example of a merit promition. He'll always be in the position of having to "owe" someone. It's what I've been talking about a long time ago. If you slow down, shit rolls up hill. Now the bosses have to come up with the answers. Good luck, hope to see 890 answering calls and making arrests. What's your key date again? Oh yeah, don't forget to type the disclaimer when answering the BS CR numbers.

5/29/2008 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Imagine that, a boss expecting production from his employees. How dare he.

5/29/2008 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Star #5296 said...

Star # 5296
You have opened up a big problem in 812. It nice to see that you have the balls to ticket people who have been parking in their driveway for years.You conveniently only ticketed a couple cars but you missed 4 cops......ooops I got your back!!! Pics on the DC's desk tommorrow!!! Hell Jody should probably see them too! Nice jagbag! Now every cop that lives in 008 that has the same driveway with their car parked in it will have pics sent to the alderman. Preferential treatment is nice but it'll burn ya in the end. Click click....."You see that flash of light in the corner of your eye? That's your career dissipation light. It just went into high gear. "

I'm "ADMINISTRATIVELY" gunning for you....asshat! RAISE? You will be lucky your not put in 007!

5/29/2008 01:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you can't find a traffic violator in 008 any time, any where in that open, dirty asshole of a District, then you should pretty much go work for the Water Department, cause you are about as useless.


Oh, I forgot, morale is low, so we have a right ( some would say an entitlement ) to expect the bosses to thank us for just showing up. Be a professional and you have no worries, simple as that!

5/29/2008 01:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: see the lawsuit from a guy in 7? Allegedly involved him not able to provide copper with 50 push ups. Nice. Funny. Dude wants 30k and 20k punitive. Ha-ha
Stupid will get something, but not all 50k. 4 john doe cops and city named.

5/29/2008 02:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Earnest means well, but once he starts talking, his foot always ends up in his mouth.

5/29/2008 02:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IF IT'S TRUE: THEN THE MONOPOLY MAN NEEDS TO SIT BACK: #1 HE WAS WORKING BT. 805 ON THE WATCH WHEN I WAS THERE WITH BOB MAN.. & DAVE JOR...TO THEIR CREDIT THEY DID A LOT OF GOOD POLICE WORK..ALL OF THEM...BUT MR. C.E NEVER MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY AS A PO TO RIP, IM MEAN RIP THE BOSSES AT ROLL CALL, EVERY DAY ALL HE WOULD DO IS RIP BOSSES..THEN HE LAID DOWN WITH MADIGAN (AN DISOWNED HIS OLD PARTNERS, OR THEY DISOWNED HIM)...AND HE'S MR LEGIT NOW??FUCK HIM....I LIKED IT BETTER WHEN HE WAS A PO AND STARTED A LANDSCAPE BUSINESS TO MAKE ENDS MEAT..HIS MOTTO.."AN EARNEST DAYS WORK, FOR AN HONEST DAYS PAY.." BOY HOW WE FORGET..THE POSTER CHLD FOR WHAT NOT TO BECOME IF YOU GET PROMOTED.....!!!! I REMEMBER HIM TELLING ME AS A YOUNG PO - FUCK THESES BOSSES......... FUCK YOU.

5/29/2008 02:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yet another day of priceless pep talks from the LT on 3rd watch in 008! Brought out a copy of all officers activity and threatened to take guys off cars at the 1800 roll call.


I mean WTF is this guy/LT C E thinking. Here we have several guys from SOS, several guys from TRU, and I am pretty sure a guy from SWAT I think, but noone really knows as he is low key ( he still carries a taser so he obviously from somewhere)who all are at the roll call. These guys whom I have come to know some more recent and others for long time busted their asses.............. and what do they have to show for their hard work?.....It's friking amazing they still even want to do an ounce of proactive police work after the way they all got shit on, but most of them are doing something. They are the first guys at the calls and the first guys to roll by other people's T-stops to make sure they ok and the first guys to respond to you call of an emergency.

So myslef with just 2yrs on the job is very happy to have them here with us. I have ridden with most of them and are the first to help me out and answer what I throw at them.


I find it to be a downright disgrace to the guys at the roll call that this LT would even consider bringing this crap up at times like these

He is the LT and should know that cars are back logged from start to finsish with barely even a chance to get a lunch if it is approved on at least 4out of the 7days of the week. And it ain't even hot yet and school is still in.
I am not bitching about the way things are BELIEVE me as I have learned and seen for myself some places in A2 are way worse off, but come on LT. PReach somewhere else with the humpers and the activity speeches. The guy who is on the bottom is still getting the same paycheck as the rest of the retired or soon to be retired go getters only without all the beefs and lawsuits. Give the P.o.s some credit where credit is do. That activity speech is hurting more than it is helping. It is doing nothing but lowering the morale of all the officers that have already had the carpet pulled from under them so to speak. If you want more activity talk to someone about more bodies on the street to cover the backlog of calls and less camera's being big brother to all the working polices. I can only pray this isn't an occurance at all the roll calls city wide with the pep talk speeches from the J-Fraud. ITS ABOUT TIME TO SHOW US SOMETHING BEFROE YOU GET SOMETHING IN RETURN MR SUP/MAYORS PUPPET

Just another 2yr wonder 5th generation CPD

5/29/2008 02:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just want to give a hats off to the new guys who let the midnight detention aid and that poor excuse of a P.O in the lockup have it. Too many of the younger guys just don't know any better and just are too scared to say it. They make you wait an hr minimum in order to take someone to the back. WTF is that. All they do is watch movies....Take that from someone who has worked lockup. 008 is horendous on the 1st watch. Only place that may be worse is 2 or 5 That jag detention aid ain't ever even around in the back. He always runnin his mouth about something. WAIT! I didn't hear him runnig his mouth after the true MC club guys outed him for wearing a bs vest being a wanna be biker.


How come on afternoons, the busiest shift you call back there and they take him right away, but on mids at frikin 1am they make you wait 40min-2hrs. UNFUKIN REAL! They should be taking care of their own district guys.

5/29/2008 03:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont know j-fed and have never met him, but I hear he comes off as being intelligent and well spoken. Feds are hired for their intellect and book smarts not their street smarts. A real mayor hires an experienced police chief with the thinking that they can be trusted to be left alone knowing they hired someone with the knowledge needed to run a dept as they see fit. A mayor usually lacks the time and experience to run every dept, thus the reason they hire help. J-fed, I'm sure, has many good ideas (as do many experienced officers) on what is needed to make this a much better run dept. This is why it wont take him long to realize that this meddling moron with a power complex wont let anyone run this police dept alone as long as he is mayor.

5/29/2008 03:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot of these bosses aren't too bright and they certainly are not leaders. I think we have arrived at a critical mass of bosses who are in positions not due to qualifications but who they know/ blow/ contribute to, etc...
For a long time this department functioned in spite of these bosses through men and women who would bend the rules and work around incompetent white shirts to get the job done. This will happen much less now that most p.o.'s understand that they will be thrown under the bus by the very bosses they are trying to impress if the wind changes direction.
What we are now whitnessing is the Chicago police department trying to be Naperville p.d. in Chicago with unqualified leadership and officers more afraid of their employers than the bad guys.
The results of this idiocy will be measured in the blood spilled in the faster districts of this city where the criminals clearly understand the police have been reduced to ornaments.

5/29/2008 04:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is how the SOS nonsense came about. The constant push for numbers from Phat Phil and then all the way down the chain. Bosses get big pensions and walk away. The POs slide into corruption while getting big numbers and you know the outcome.

old retired guy

5/29/2008 04:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Easy penis, Carson isn’t that serous he’s just hot air.

5/29/2008 04:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt carson has always been an obnoxious waste of a breathing human being. Al I can say is when this he was a sgt and being a bastard as usual I had a wonderful Lt. on my side who handed him his ass for questioning him on a decision the Lt. had made and allowed me to do. My poor partner was in tears after he freakin yelled at us needlessly and scared the shit out of the poor girl. I simply let him know that if he had a problem with what we did he needed to address it with the w/c who was in total agreement and who made the decision not us. He is a total jerk and a pushy irritating arrogant son of a bitch. If it isn't in his best interest it doesn't matter. It goes to show once people get that white shirt on they turn into total ass holes. Talk about someone with a chip on his shoulder and napolian syndrome.
The louder he yells the bigger your smile should get cause it pisses him off!
We do not have quotas and verbal beratement of officers is not acceptable and should be brought to someones attention. Not only is it unproffessional but inappropriate. Theses officers should file a harrassment suit in addition to a a suit for a hostile work environment based on the verbal attack by carson and his usumption that the lack of activity is based on negligence of duty by police officers.

5/29/2008 04:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alderman Beefing! Who cares. There are only two types of Alderman in this corrupt city, ones who have been indicted and ones who are about to be. They don't run the Police Department.

5/29/2008 05:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the old days the watch would refuse to go to work until the street deputy ordered them. Ive seen it happen.

Looks like its time for these kiddies to grow some balls.

5/29/2008 05:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So go out and hang paper on people.

Make sure you tell them, "You are being charged with petty mopery and dopery with intent to touch yourself because Lt. Butternuts ordered us to do it."

5/29/2008 05:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Lt. Carson , F U C K - Y O U !
You are one of the reasons that morale is down . I'm sure that your speech will make a difference as to how the troops react to what you said ( NOT )

5/29/2008 05:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would have to APPLAUD THE LT. for cracking down on the 3rd watch dogs of 008. About time!!!!
No reason for anybody to come in with nothing. You want a raise?
EARN IT! That Lt. should start training other WCs!!!!

5/29/2008 06:09:00 AM  
Blogger Murphy40Pct said...

Give him a break- Lt. Ernest has always looked out for coppers. Half the people whine on here about the lack of work done in 008, and now they are going to attack this guy who is one of the really good bosses in the City. He's doing his job, and it's his decision who gets to work where on his watch.

5/29/2008 06:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Check out his article
"The $413,000 Chicago Defender flip" in the Chicago Suntimes 29 May 08

5/29/2008 06:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need help in 008. The district is too big and too busy for he number of cops working. Sometimes you cant get lunch or personal, morale like most other districts sucks. Now this fool is gonna start playing the hard ass , fuck this job.

5/29/2008 06:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic some of you are so easliy fooled. Reading comments about last meeting and how BC made the comment about fto's and the patch says chicago and you go where your told etc. She , you can bet your life, is echoing her boss's feeling she just isnt as smooth as new ceo. You boys and girls know how these command staffers are they stand next to big chief and just nod and smile, if aunt bee said these things you know its what jfed thinks. One last point what positive thing has this guy done ?

5/29/2008 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That watch better stand together......FLOP?... HELLO?...HELLLLOOOO?....FLOP,YOU THERE?

5/29/2008 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, OT, but I thought the readers should see this,reprinted from the Lieutenants Association web page. Hopefully this is one thing that the Supt. follows through with.

Dear Superintendent Weis,

I was reading the Lieutenants Association Newsletter and was very happy to see Lieutenant Robert Stasch's article about the Saint Jude March. He is absolutely right in wanting the Saint Jude March back on Michigan Avenue.

Last year I sent an E-Mail to Superintendent Cline expressing the opinion of myself and several other officers that the Saint Jude March should be on Michigan Avenue. I received a polite respond and that was the end of it.

The decision to move the Saint Jude March to the Memorial was made by a small group of people. I think that the entire department should have been polled on this matter.

The bottom line is that we get so much negative press and I feel that when the Chicago Police Department is doing something so wonderful as honoring their fallen members that they should be in their full glory on Michigan Avenue for the whole world to see.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and thank you in advance for any consideration given to this matter.

Lieutenant Maureen E. Ziegenhorn
18th District

The letter from Lt. Ziegenhorn was sent to the Superintendent on 21 May 2008. The Superintendent has responded since then to her that he is working to ensure that the St. Judes March will be held next year back on Michigan Ave. where it belongs.

5/29/2008 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems to be true. Not the job me old man told me to take. Even though 90% of 008 is made up of nonsense police (excluding 812, 814, 823, 825, 835, 859) it is not right to hold people to their numbers. Their is no contract. The city is in complete disarray. I can't blame the police of the 008th or citywide for the drop in production. Next thing you know, felony review might actually feel the burn from this and approve a few felonies. Good night and god bless. I love this job!

5/29/2008 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fyi to all you tools who want la style dept...talk to someone who has or is currently working there...it sucks...they have the highest turn over rate of any large police dept...i believe its something like only half stay till pension...

5/29/2008 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are welcome to come to 011th District and 015th District, where there are cameras in place. Let's see how pretty you look on the camera trying to lock someone up on a domestic. Do no activity!!!Is the Watch Commander going to throw you a benefit when you take 30 days suspension for arresting drug dealers? Is Internal Affairs going to believe you? I get paid on the 1st, 16th and 22nd to get my Pedicures/Manicures and my teeth whiten (I have a lot to Smile about) pretty little brunette on the West-Side!

5/29/2008 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you mean 008th dist PO C. earnest, then merit sgt c. earnest who went right back to 008, and merit lt c. earnest who again went right back to 008? CE should know there's way too many radio calls and not enough manpower to bring in "activity" even if you wanted to

5/29/2008 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is funny because when C.E. was a lowly PO in 008 he was one of the biggest rabble rousers around...he didn't take any shit now here he is dishing shit out...........makes you want to cry........

5/29/2008 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What next pushups in the rain??

5/29/2008 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep doing nothing 008th dist. We cheer it. Lets put the leaders on the ropes this summer because we get fired, sued, and CR # for everyday police work.

5/29/2008 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The line in the sand has been drawn. STAND YOUR GROUND.

When you put a Zero in each category on the humper, put a smiley face in it because that would be the "CAPS" thing to do.

5/29/2008 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Said LT. Is an Army Veteran (Vietnam). Someone please tell him the war is over and we are not in the Army.

5/29/2008 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE MORONS THAT LEAD US!GIVE HIM AN AWARD THE ASSHAT>HOW DID HE GET HIS PROMOTION?WHOS HIS CLOUT?

5/29/2008 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

must be something in the water in 008. i remember jimmy carroll tried the same crap. can you say...HE GONE! in time LT. C.E. will grab some bench. the holiday i was able to drive my cruiser for an entire tour without my shoes on. lord only knew where my hat may hane been. once we receive our SUV's,rifles,clocks,flashlights&retro checks i am sure i may generate an event number.

5/29/2008 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That power hungry ass wants all the ice cream vendors locked up! He is nothing but a mutt, tries and tells everyone at roll call how smart he is w/ general orders, after he just read them b4 rollcall! Capt. Spratte, put this jerk in his place!

5/29/2008 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

commander john franklin used to check our ticket books in 003 all the time. He didn't look as to how many tickets we were writing but just to make sure we have wrote at least one ticket the past month. no one liked it.

5/29/2008 08:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
If you can't find a traffic violator in 008 any time, any where in that open, dirty asshole of a District, then you should pretty much go work for the Water Department, cause you are about as useless.


Oh, I forgot, morale is low, so we have a right ( some would say an entitlement ) to expect the bosses to thank us for just showing up. Be a professional and you have no worries, simple as that!

5/29/2008 01:43:00 AM

O K Superman. You carry the watch for movers. We'll make you the traffic car and you can handle every accident and DUI. What's that? You decline the offer?! STFU!!!!!

5/29/2008 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've known Carson for over 20 years --he is a box of rocks.
Everytime someone would criticize him about what an idiot sergeant or lt. he is, someone would protect him and say what a great tact guy he was. He was an idiot. As a detective who handled a robbery of his, he put felony charges of robbery on a guy, put him in the lock up and went home.
No complaints, no 101's, no call to the dicks and no call to felony review. He was pissed off when the w/c called him back -- because he had to leave a political fund raiser to clean up his mess.

5/29/2008 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Imagine that, a boss expecting production from his employees. How dare he.

5/29/2008 01:38:00 AM


To this fukstik I say, policing isn't a fucking work product assembly line or retail sales environment you idiot. It's a responsive act to observed infraction of whatever the current flavor of the law requires.

Fuck your ignorant "boss" interpretation of how to measure a copper's worth by how much of your bullshit "product" they can generate to keep the other well known fukstik paying out cash to the shithead dregs of this city.

And Daley can go shit himself and dance in the corner at Northwestern. What a bullshit scam foisted on the kids at that school. Like nobody knows the criminal shithead Daley doesn't shovel money at this institution to come up with bullshit worthless evaluations on criminal activity, presumed expert analysis on policing and any useless fucking classes he can extort cash from the coffers to pay his buddies over there for.

Gary Coleman would be more respected as a commencement speaker that the walking piece of thieving, corrupt shit Daley will always be.

Peace

5/29/2008 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THERE ARE APPROX 10 SOS AND TRU GUYS IN 008, WHY WOULD THEY DO SHIT? I'M SURE THEY'VE PROVEN THEMSELVES.. NOW YOU C.E. WANT THEM TO GO LOCK PEOPLE UP? THE STATES ATT. JUST NOLLE ALL THE MISDEMEANOR AND MOST TRAFF TIX, AND DON'T LET ME 4GET FELONY CRT, IF IT'S NOT 5GRAMS OF 2027 OR 2022, THE GRT JUDGE THROWS IT OUT(NO PC), SETS U UP FOR A LAWSUIT! LIKE ANOTHER SAID, 1ST & 16TH!

5/29/2008 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

01jun08 60 minutes SOS, Indicted former PO Herrera rats them out.

5/29/2008 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You gotta learn to filter all words coming from these idiot bosses into the wind. Only commit to memory those things necessary to keep your job until you leave. Every other word is shit in the wind that has no business occupying space in your brain. Enjoy your REAL life, which is the other 16 hours of the day that have absolutely nothing to do with the 8 hours you have to piss away working for someonoe else to pay your bills.

5/29/2008 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Alderman Beefing! Who cares. There are only two types of Alderman in this corrupt city, ones who have been indicted and ones who are about to be. They don't run the Police Department."

Time to start ticketing the aldercreatures guys!

5/29/2008 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like the watch are a bunch of dogs to me.

5/29/2008 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous HATER said...

FIND THE ALDERMAN'S OFFICE AND THE ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT OFFICE IN YOUR DISTRICT RIGHT THEM UP FOR PARKERS.

YOU SEE THE 1ST THING THAT OFFICE IS GOIN TO DO IS CALL THE COMMANDER TO NON-SUIT THE TICKETS.

IF YOUR COMMANDER IS AS DUMB AS HE SOUNDS HE WILL ASK YOU TO DO IT.
DOCUMENT THE CONVERSATION AND THEN FOLLOW HIS ORDER. NOW YOU HAVE AMMO
BECAUSE HE IS BEING SO UNETHICAL AND YOU HAVE PROOF.

YOU WILL HAVE A COPY OF ORIGINAL TICKET.

YOU WILL HAVE A COPY OF THE NON-SUITED PAPER WK.

YOU WILL HAVE THE PLATE AND OWNER INFORMATION FOR THE VEHICLE.

YOU WILL SEARCH THE INTERNET AND FIND THE TITLE OF THE EMPLOYEE FROM THE ALDERMAN'S THAT PROCURED THE FAVOR.

YOU COULD GO IN CIVILIAN ATTIRE AND ASK FOR THE BUSINESS CARD OF THE CLOUT HACK.

JUST KEEP IT HANDY. DO IT AGAIN IF YOU HAVE PLANS ON BEING ANYTHING OF MERIT. THIS IS THE CHICAGO WAY.

YOU DONT THINK ALL THE UGLY MERIT PEOPLE SLEEP WITH THE OVERWEIGHT WHITE SHIRTS.

5/29/2008 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

knew carson years ago and he was anti boss all the way. what happened ???. the old mind fuck of punishing the majority due to the misdeeds of a few will not work with seasoned veteran coppers. i predict that activity will drop even lower due to the actions of this lt. you ask for something and you may get it, but you order it and you get nothing.

5/29/2008 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about us? The common, law-abiding residents of 008? On Saturday night, my husband called to report problems stemming from our obnoxiously loud neighbors who were blocking the alley with multi-vehicles and blasting the 'hood with live music past 11:00 p.m. I understand, morale is low on the force; but understand how we feel, too.

5/29/2008 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IS THERE A PLACE ON THE NEW HUMPER FOR HOW MANY DOG'S TAILS WE RAISE TO CHECK FOR NUTS?

COME TO THINK OF IT IF WE HAD TO CHECK FOR EXEMPT'S NUTS THAT WOULD BE A ZERO AS WELL.

5/29/2008 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone know anything about 60 min this sunday having something to do with the cpd??

5/29/2008 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE MORONS THAT LEAD US!GIVE HIM AN AWARD THE ASSHAT>HOW DID HE GET HIS PROMOTION?WHOS HIS CLOUT?

The answer is eadie cavanaugh of the West Lawn Chamber of Commerce, who lobbies for him through Maddigan

5/29/2008 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe this LT should start doing contact cards on everybody on 3rd watch because according to Monique, they are like warnings.

5/29/2008 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dunno, a few years back he was the guest wc in our dist.. seemed to really appreciate the working copper, and spent some time urging us to get involved in the union and espcecially the pension board. Was there for a couple weeks and we had a watch that pretty much worked hard (was a busy dist)... And if guys really are laying down and are dumb enough to flaunt it by turning in empty humpers, then I can see the wc getting mad. Laying down is totally understandable given the current climate, but boss reaction to us laying down is equally understandable.... bossese that lose watches end up with long long drives to work....

5/29/2008 09:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do any of you guys remember back in the late 80's or early 90's when PO Carson E. started the White Appalachian Police Officers Assn.? If I remember he was either the Pres. or the VP of the organization. What a fool. He was testing the waters to see if downtown would approve such a club.

5/29/2008 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This whats happens when you pick your leaders based upon the CLOUT HEAVY BS System.Can you imagine these Bosses acting in a real crisis?????? STOP WORKING AND YOU WILL BRING THE SYSTEM DOWN>THE POs run this dept.Get a clue Do SHIT unless your a sux up

5/29/2008 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous h h holmes said...

Anonymous said...
A lot of these bosses aren't too bright and they certainly are not leaders. I think we have arrived at a critical mass of bosses who are in positions not due to qualifications but who they know/ blow/ contribute to, etc...

I'm told that years ago - at the Ford city aircraft engine plant - these type of bosses were refered to as "Stupid-visors". I guess Rosie the Riveter had it right.
Wisdom from our Grandparents

5/29/2008 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go find the nearest church with illegal arkers and write a few. Do a cta check get an event # fo some BS and write a report for every call make the crime rate go up. Everytime you 19p a job you kill crime give the mopes an RD# take your time writing the report and watch the crkime rate grow. FU LT. I wrote 8 reports today yeah part 1's are going through the roof it must be the bad managment.

5/29/2008 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous gunnery sergeant hartman said...

You maggots on 822 deserve a blanket party! It worked on Private Pyle and it will work on you. Your ass belongs to the Chicago Police Department now!
HOO RAH!

5/29/2008 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC

KEITH HERRERA ON 60MINUTES JUNE 1ST

5/29/2008 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just tell C.E. you have no activity because everyone was able to purchase a PEN today. Maybe tomorrow they won't be able to afford one.

5/29/2008 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the same Lt. who was a Sgt. in 2 and his grass cutting truck was ticketed by 8th Dist. personnel, had suspended RV plates, (on a definite pickup truck) he cried on Biffs shoulder and got all the tickets killed and a month later, he was in 8, probably to take revenge on the guy who wrote the tickets. Ah politics. Because he is now a Lt. maybe I should say his landscaping truck, grass cutter sounds so common for a man of his stature.

5/29/2008 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carson was a rabble rouser on the watch, he was a good patrolmen too. I think hisyelling about heads and stats is un-real right now. maybe two years ago yeah get on these fools! Now, with whats going on in this city?? Stay off the radar and 2 more years at least of staying off the radar. Carson should retire to his diseased park and neighborhood and leave the job. The days of his policing are over long over.

5/29/2008 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the bashers of 008 coppers......Come over and work a tour or two, its un-like any district in the city hands down. You will not have time to take a shit, much less be a superhero.

5/29/2008 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE LESS YOU DO THE BETTER THEY TREAT YOU!

5/29/2008 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So when my partner and I write out 7 reports plus handling and coding an additional 17 jobs, when in the fuck does that leave time to do anything. We get denied lunch half the time because of the bullshit backlog cause we're short 3,500 officers city wide.

Fuck proactive policing. The city and the supt want it but then when you do it they fuck you hard so I so fuck you right back. They have made this department what it is today - THE PUSSY POLICE.

I'm still waiting for a fucking contract "again". I have to work this fucked up job, go to court as much as possible, work special and a side job and I'm barely surviving and paying my bills and sending my kids to school. But keep giving all my tax money to the ghetto scum.

sergeants that dont appreicate the police that work for them are assholes to. want want want and when we give give give, we get treated the same as if we did nothing at all for him.

5/29/2008 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its not at all about asking for activity and po's whining its how you approach it. If he said hey we need some of this or some of that can u do that for me...sure no problem. but it was his approach You don't talk to people like they're 3 year olds, and thats exactly what he did. I was there...and if ANYONE was talked to like that they would b annoyed.

5/29/2008 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THERE ARE APPROX 10 SOS AND TRU GUYS IN 008, WHY WOULD THEY DO SHIT?

what does that have to do with anything? because a phone call got u to sos or you one bagged people for the last year and a half ur "proven"? NOT IMPRESSED...but I love you're confidence!

5/29/2008 11:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of you are sticking up for this guy because there are dogs on the 3rd watch in 008? There are dogs on EVERY watch in EVERY Dist. Doesn't mean the working police in the Dist should be punished because of the bad apples.

I was in the military... you have to lead each and every person differently. That is the sign of a true leader. Learning your troops and getting each and every one to work for you... not out of intimidation but out of respect. Maybe some of these bosses should take a course in leadership instead of ASS KISSING so they could learn a thing or two.

5/29/2008 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You really want to SCREW him over, write a report for EVERYTHING and make no arrests, just send the index through the roof.

OR

Have every one come in on some B/S arrest as the same time, drinkers, traffic, tvb, pissers, whatever... then they are going to have to assign the 1A jobs to the tact teams because there will be no beat cars on the street.

Then the Lt will have to watch his mouth and also what what he asks for. Just because he is a white shirt, doesn't mean he can FUCK with you. Just is supposed to LEAD. Not play little fucking games.

Stand Up and Commit Mutiny!!!!!!!!!

5/29/2008 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 025th District Commander is going to have gang and tac teams write movers and parkers very soon.

5/29/2008 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is NOT surprising. I worked in 008 and he is as arrogant a boss as u will find on this job. See if his juice isnt Mike Madigan? He lives VERY close to the alleged speakers "home" and at one point had the balls to answer his cell phone in the middle of roll call when supposedly the speaker called. "yes sir Mr Speaker, we'll get on it, can I just call you back after roll call sir" Anyone else remeber that day? This guy is a back stabber if I ever saw one. Tells you "hey guys go out there do what u have to do and I will be there to back you up." When he gets in the WC office he is backstabbing coppers and ass sucking with DC. He has been sued by coppers for the way he speaks at roll call. Its not unusual for him to berate female coppers, make anti catholic remarks, talk about priests fondling balls, rip on germans as nazis, he once called out a korean PPO on pearl harbor day. I guess he doesnt know the difference between japanese and koreans. All of this coming from a hillbilly from Alabama. What a jagoff he is! He is the definition of arrogance. Or maybe the day he was transferred to 007 soon after making LT and declared at roll call, "we'll see how long this lasts, I'll be back within a week" And thanks to mikey madigan he in fact was. To the guys in 008, keep your heads up, since leaving i have been to 2 other districts and can say 008 had the best guys to work with and is by far the busiest district in this city. To the guys that have been there so long and might be hesitant to make the move. DO IT, its amazing how some districts are so slow and easy to work in!

5/29/2008 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SCC,
Welcome to Evanston PD! We were told by our Dep. Chief that he expects us to have a minimum of 10 movers and 20 parking tickets a month. Not as a shift, but as an individual. And if we don't hit this mark, we will be dinged on our yearly evaluations.
Sad to see what happens to police work when political hacks do the bidding of the corrupt politicians.

5/29/2008 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

C.E SOLD HIS SOULD TO THE DEVIL (OOPS, I MEAN MADIGAN) TO GET THOSE BARS........CHOKE ON EM'.......

5/29/2008 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic, but hot off the presses:

ROBERT PODGORNY JOINS DOW JONES INDEXES

NEW YORK (May 29, 2008)—Dow Jones Indexes, a leading global index provider, today announced that Robert Podgorny, 59, most recently president of the National Conference of Public Employee Retirement Systems (NCPERS), will join as manager, fiduciary relations on June 2, 2008.

In this newly created role, Mr. Podgorny will serve as Dow Jones Indexes’ ambassador to the pension fund community. He will educate plan sponsors on the importance of effective benchmark adoption and illustrate the advantages of and encourage use of the Dow Jones Wilshire indexes...

Mr. Podgorny has an extensive background in public service and pensions. Prior to his post at NCPERS, he was first vice president of Chicago's Fraternal Order of Police Lodge # 7, having served on the board for 21 years. He currently serves as a trustee and also has chaired numerous committees. Mr. Podgorny served as a Chicago police officer for more than 33 years. There he was instrumental in obtaining collective bargaining rights for the Chicago Police Department. In addition to his collective bargaining expertise, Mr. Podgorny dealt with all medical and health-related issues and disabilities of Chicago police officers.

Looks like Bob has parlayed his FOP and pension board work into a very cushy retirement plan!

5/29/2008 12:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. CE is stand up guy and will back you up when the yogurt hits the fan. He once patted me on the back for an arrest I made and told me "fine job officer."

5/29/2008 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the officers in 008 on 3rd watch, RELAX. Wear the proper uniform, respond to jobs in a timely manner and take appropriate police action. If you do those 3 things nobody can touch you. Sure the W/C can adjust your starting time or deny you time due if you bring in zeros, big deal. You need a day off, go IOD, save your time. They can't make you see anything out on the street. Trust me you will out last them. Those humpers are nothing new. Write a big zero across the whole thing and watch the W/C freak. It's fun. I had one W/C hand us report cards daily with activity, or lack of it, on it. I had one W/C list activity next to the sheets for the next day. Your W/C is simply using the embarassment tactic at this time which is age old for a non leader. Laugh at it. He will move on to something else just as humorous as this when he realizes nobody cares. Been there done that.

5/29/2008 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is next,a time out in the corner of the station? Respect is earned not given by threats. If treated like a child, behave like one and throw a tantrum. Good leadership is lacking all around. Are there any good bosses out there?

5/29/2008 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had Carson in my misdemeanor key about 14 years ago at 11th and State.

His case gets called, it's an assault. Carson walks up in front of the bench and the judges asks where the victim is.

Carson says, "I'm the victim." When she was done laughing she nolled the case.

'nuff said.

5/29/2008 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New captain 012th dist. 3rd watch is calling P/O's in to his office for low activity. Last week robbery car was chasing an armed robbery offender down 290 then s/b on Lake Shore Dr. The captain lets it go for a little while then calls off the chase. This guys asking us to put our asses on the line making arrests but isn't going to risk his six figure spot for an armed robber. Typical!

5/29/2008 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
THERE ARE APPROX 10 SOS AND TRU GUYS IN 008, WHY WOULD THEY DO SHIT? I'M SURE THEY'VE PROVEN THEMSELVES.. NOW YOU C.E. WANT THEM TO GO LOCK PEOPLE UP? THE STATES ATT. JUST NOLLE ALL THE MISDEMEANOR AND MOST TRAFF TIX, AND DON'T LET ME 4GET FELONY CRT, IF IT'S NOT 5GRAMS OF 2027 OR 2022, THE GRT JUDGE THROWS IT OUT(NO PC), SETS U UP FOR A LAWSUIT! LIKE ANOTHER SAID, 1ST & 16TH!

5/29/2008 08:38

He wants a to-from naming the Judge that throws out your case just like you said, 4-5 rocks. He will get rid of them of course. HAHA.

C C C C Cram -Bone

5/29/2008 01:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's an asshole, but he's totally within his rank as WC to put people on cars and take them off. He can make you stand at attention for inspection and make you get your hat.

If you don't want to do what he tells you, don't. You won't get fired, but you'll suffer some consequences.

All this crying to SCC because some WC is a jerk.

God, this department has really become a bunch of pussies.

5/29/2008 12:29:00 AM

Where do we cry to? The bosses? Its a f'n blog, who cares. You obviously read it.

5/29/2008 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If u been on the job for a while and worked in a few districts Lt.Ernest is probably a middle of the road boss. He comes off like a strange bird at times. He does have balls and doesnt back away unlike other white shirts on the this job.

5/29/2008 01:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt Scotchbreath here, Carson you are a pussy and would love to fight you anytime anywhere....I would prefer the TR's parking just in case I was to get my ass kicked my drinking pals could step in and give me a hand.........

5/29/2008 01:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bosses want me to work, What an original concept. Boy they have nerve

5/29/2008 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dunno... wear your hat, put foot and a bs premise check on your humper. Easy enough, been this way for a long time. Stupid game played every day in a lot of districts... besides, who shows up to a stand up roll call without a hat?

Officer probably didn't expect a stand up roll call on a holiday. Have you ever had a stand up roll call on a holiday? NO? Think Office!

5/29/2008 02:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember Ernie when i worked in 8 on days. He had just made Sgt he did't mind coming in with low activity and would say fuck the wc. Wow how we changed. If Ernie likes the G.O. so much he should read the one about appearance mustache must be trimmed and neat not to extend the corner of the lip.

5/29/2008 02:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would have to APPLAUD THE LT. for cracking down on the 3rd watch dogs of 008. About time!!!!
No reason for anybody to come in with nothing. You want a raise?
EARN IT! That Lt. should start training other WCs!!!!


Stay off the blog J-Fed!

5/29/2008 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This goes to everyone, not just those on 3rd watch in 008. DO NOT let these jag-off bosses strong arm you into activity only to make them look good! That is putting YOU out on the line..and for what?.. the way things are going now, do you really think that same jag-off boss will back you when you get caught up for doing proactive police work? Hell no! Especially with J-Fed so eager to get rid of us, you know that boss'll be hiding out somewhere.


I 2nd the motion!!! Take for instance (1) Lt. J.B. Those who worked for him loved him because he took care of us, but we had to pay the man w/ activity--yes pro-active police work which most of us enjoyed. However, when the shit hit the fan, the good Lt. was no where to be found. Things that make you go HHMMMM. If you are going to work, which I still do, do it because you want to not to impress somebody. Then if something happens, you only have yourself to hold accountable.

Fuck these non-backing, pencil pushing pussy bosses!!! You want numbers then fuckin' go get 'em. There is no G.O. that states that a Lt. can't make an arrest. Write a fuckin' parker and hazard and turn it in on your humper you ball less pricks!!

5/29/2008 02:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger Murphy40Pct said...

Give him a break- Lt. Ernest has always looked out for coppers. Half the people whine on here about the lack of work done in 008, and now they are going to attack this guy who is one of the really good bosses in the City. He's doing his job, and it's his decision who gets to work where on his watch.

Your an idiot. You punish the whole watch for a car having a empty humper. LT wants to know what that car did for the night. Pull up its event history and pull them into the office alone. The LT sounds like an asshat. Much like your comment. If they are a beat car, all they have to do is ride their beat and answer their call, fill out that report.. Rapid car, patrol their sector and answer their calls and fill out that report. Finally, go home to your family and collect that check on the 1st and 16th. There's Capt. Farrell on midnights in 002. Have the LT watch him as a boss and learn something, see the way he treats his officers.

5/29/2008 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think pretty soon bosses in all 25 districts will DEMAND activity. Look, I am a new guy to the CPD. My goal as a beat officer is to answer my calls, patrol the streets and if I see anything on view, take appropriate police actions. That is it. I am not going to stop people, fill out contact cards, or arrest people without any probable cause. Why would I want to place my career and personal liberty on the line? Besides, no one in CPD would stand by you if such a thing would occur anyways.

5/29/2008 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous former tru now in 008 said...

man im glad I landed in 008 good luck getting activity out of me and check my humper I won't be violating rule 14. all zeros and 19 p

5/29/2008 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Imagine that, a boss expecting production from his employees. How dare he.

////////////////////////////
0138am said it best...but I add...
You liberals want activity? Do you get mad when you go for your 0530 jog to see us trying to keep our eyes open? Does that disgust you? Then, write the newspapers and tell them you want more activity. Just be sure to leave your name,address, and plate number. We'll get that activity at your expense. You want it...Then ask for it...Weasily little narrow-minded do-good-talkers.
Call it...Do you want us to create crime or not?
And, How come I never see a response from these liberal idiots who come on this site pretending to know policework? WAITING!!!!

5/29/2008 03:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC:UPDATE: Some of our more "brilliant" readers are missing the point. The point isn't lack of activity - it was a complete lack of ability to motivate activity out of the watch officers and resorting to that time honored tradition of bullies everywhere - threats - which time and time again never ever works. Especially on cops.


Come out to the Burbs SCC.They have all kinds of ways to get rid of officers.Your time is coming CPD,you had a good run,now enter your future.

Forget the Unions,they wont help you.

5/29/2008 03:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the police officers in the 8th district.... you forget one important thing....by not doing police work in the district you are also harming your own.....you know the ones that live here because we thought the it was another one of those last stands...I too used to work in the 8th district and remember many nights with non stop assignments from begining to end with few breaks in between....By the way my Beat was 524 you know one of those east end cars. Please stop complaining....bosses come and go just like commanders do. When you have been around long enough to go through a few let me know...Go out and do want kind of police work YOU want to do....You want to get out of assignments,,,, make an arrest....gets you off the street and gives you time to go sneak lunch.....Be the POLICE. you know that reason WHY you became the POLICE in the first place.....maybe it was some sense of justice or feeling like maybe you could make a difference in someone's life....F@@K the gangbangers, do police work for the real victims who appreciate the real police.... Oh yeah and by the way come join me in Area 2 where we rock and roll all night and have shootings a regular nightly basis......

5/29/2008 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those guys in 008 late roll dont deserve EC's crap. Most of them are former SOS,TRU and Rangers and the average time on at 1800 is about 10yrs.

Maybe they dont lock everyone up or write movers but..... If there ever is an incident involving a copper, accident/agg bat, they volunteer to write the paper. They write it the right way.

If you need help they always roll. If there is a fight they usually are the first ones there.

There is a lot more to police work than numbers. Leave those guys alone.

EC leave the whole watch alone

5/29/2008 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the coppers of 008, Please do nothing!!! If this is the way you will be talked to and treated do even less! Wear your hat, but do nothing! Be safe!

5/29/2008 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what happens when you tie people's hands. Oh well. They got the department they wanted.

5/29/2008 04:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now that I'm thoroughly distracted by all the anti-supervisory rants spewed forth in this posting, I can inflate my blow-up man-doll and give him more than 2 minutes of affection. SCC, consider yourself commended for being the catalyst of my sexual prowess!

5/29/2008 01:32:00 AM

Must be an inside joke.

5/29/2008 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's too frikin busy in 008n to worry bout a ticket. we have no choice but to answer our calls. then clean up the back logs. then if yr lucky you can now take lunch. wait! i see we need gas, then lunch maybe! c.e. was a p.o. in 008 and he would treat people like they were a peice of shit( im talking p.o.s) he was the best po out there no one could compare, excuse me ..... sorry had to puke!!! He is a sorry example of a boss. he needs to get examimed. serious. hes loss it. the guys from tru ans sos and 11th district thank you for coming to 008 to help. c.e. needs a ass kicking,maybe then he would come off that high horse he thinks hes on. that is all!!

5/29/2008 04:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
THERE ARE APPROX 10 SOS AND TRU GUYS IN 008, WHY WOULD THEY DO SHIT? I'M SURE THEY'VE PROVEN THEMSELVES.. NOW YOU C.E. WANT THEM TO GO LOCK PEOPLE UP? THE STATES ATT. JUST NOLLE ALL THE MISDEMEANOR AND MOST TRAFF TIX, AND DON'T LET ME 4GET FELONY CRT, IF IT'S NOT 5GRAMS OF 2027 OR 2022, THE GRT JUDGE THROWS IT OUT(NO PC), SETS U UP FOR A LAWSUIT! LIKE ANOTHER SAID, 1ST & 16TH!

5/29/2008 08:38:00 AM

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TRU has proven themselves????? unless they have over 5 yrs on and actually did police work prior to going to TRU then maybe

5/29/2008 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Imagine that, a boss expecting production from his employees. How dare he.

5/29/2008 01:38:00 AM"

Ah, 'production'.

Is that what we're calling it now?

As if police work is no different than, say, making the proverbial widget.

Or selling used cars.

Or cleaning carpets.

Or telemarketing.

Or ............

5/29/2008 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is it. I am not going to stop people, fill out contact cards, or arrest people without any probable cause. Why would I want to place my career and personal liberty on the line? Besides, no one in CPD would stand by you if such a thing would occur anyways.

-----------------------------

I've heard about the new guys from older vets. Not knowing what to do. Its this above mentality that will get officers hurt. You think to much.

5/29/2008 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I worked in 8 for a few years and had the opportunity to work from that LT. He is a poor leader.

His style of leaderrship is ineffective. Respecting your subordinates is key in productivity. Threats will not only conduse anger, it is counter-productive.

Lead by example, not by position.

Treat other with respect regardless of your rank.

TO ALL SUPERVISIORS:

Remember that it is the P.O's that turn the wheel in this department.
Asking and not dictating will get you very far.

5/29/2008 05:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what happens when you tie people's hands. Oh well. They got the department they wanted.

5/29/2008 04:10:00 PM

No this is the reaction to lawsuits and poor media coverage. Until the brass sticks up for the Dept and the city fights lawsuits, expect more of this, and to get worse.

No work but to answer the radio until we stop getting sued & bogus CR#s.

5/29/2008 05:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yup most of the TRU guys on the 008 3rd watch paid their dues long before TRU was started. They paid them why they were over there as well.

Trust me they ain't no 2 yr wonders. ITs great to have all these X unit guys on the watch. Liek it has been stated they may not be shaking down shorty shithead on the corner every 5 min looking for 1 baggers, but when the shit hgit the fan and p.o's calling for help and other cars all these guys are the first to roll. Hot calls as well. That is all we can ask.


As to the west end getting police service..........YOU ALL ARE THE POLICE AND KNOW HOW CALLS ARE PRIORITIZED. So yup you disturbance with the loud music is what a 3a maybe...........So they might even hit the board in an hr. So quit bashing the P.O's in 008. The 10sec cars these days are a majority of homeland security guys. They are locking people up and chasing shorty shithead around the area. You want the police so bad put your fuking start on and go outside and have some balls to tell your jagoff nmeighbors to shut the fuck up!. Like is said if you were any type of officer you would understand that your priority 3 call for noise of Gang disturbance isn't gonna hit the backlogged board til at least an hr.

Talk to the Alderman and the Supo and quit blaming the hard working P.O's in 008 for the lack of sevice. Most are handling 20-30 calls a night

5/29/2008 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he still carries a taser so he obviously from somewhere

5/29/2008 02:44:00 AM

Where's somewhere? Someplace other than 008? Is there someplace other than 008? A taser makes you "elite"? Sounds like you're TRU bound. Of course, it's outside of 008.

You're an idiot.

5/29/2008 05:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I worked with him in 8 when he was a Sgt. He is a country bumpkin. He has no class.

He might be a supervisor but he is no leader !!!

Once, I over heard him saying that the Department F'd up by giving a women a gun. My partner is female and she has more balls than half these guys on the department.

Becareful guys and gals in 8 this guy will PRETEND that he has your back, but when it comes down to it, he will jam you up.

5/29/2008 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

former tru now in 008 said...
man im glad I landed in 008 good luck getting activity out of me and check my humper I won't be violating rule 14. all zeros and 19p

5/29/2008 03:10:00 PM

And no paper either...just like in TRU.

5/29/2008 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Podgorny sold everyone EVERYONE out with his signing off on the citys new dental plan years ago. This is what he gets for selling out the police. I always wondered what he would get for that. If you remember, he stated I signed it without really reading it. Must have saved the city millions

5/29/2008 05:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what happens when you tie people's hands. Oh well. They got the department they wanted.

5/29/2008 04:10:00 PM

No this is the reaction to lawsuits and poor media coverage. Until the brass sticks up for the Dept and the city fights lawsuits, expect more of this, and to get worse.

No work but to answer the radio until we stop getting sued & bogus CR#s.

5/29/2008 05:16:00 PM

That's what I meant.

5/29/2008 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was walking the dog in West Lawn Park in about 2 am. I saw CE sitting there crying with a bag wrapped quart bottle of unknown drink in his hand. I ignored him and kept walking.

He made need psych help.

5/29/2008 06:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Imagine that, a boss expecting production from his employees. How dare he.

5/29/2008 01:38:00 AM

I suspect You Sir are just another one of the Bullies. Imagine this treat your employees with respect and, understanding.Those with juice do as they please those with none do all the work yet get fucked . Have a nice day company man!

5/29/2008 06:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alderman beefing? Since when do the alderthieves tell the dept what to do? Are they in uniform now?

5/29/2008 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Hey SCC,
Welcome to Evanston PD! We were told by our Dep. Chief that he expects us to have a minimum of 10 movers and 20 parking tickets a month. Not as a shift, but as an individual. And if we don't hit this mark, we will be dinged on our yearly evaluations.
Sad to see what happens to police work when political hacks do the bidding of the corrupt politicians.


yearly evaluations ????? I thought they stopped the "performance evaluation" about 5-6 years back. who are you trying to kid ?

5/29/2008 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. CE is stand up guy and will back you up when the yogurt hits the fan. He once patted me on the back for an arrest I made and told me "fine job officer."

5/29/2008 12:52:00 PM

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thanks for that input Lt.

5/29/2008 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is funny because when C.E. was a lowly PO in 008 he was one of the biggest rabble rousers around...he didn't take any shit now here he is dishing shit out...........makes you want to cry........

5/29/2008 07:40:00 AM

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this shit always happens, do-nothing rabble rouser gets two or three bites of the merit apple and becomes the worst "company" person out there. (Sgt DF comes to mind, merit dic and merit sgt, now merit do-nothing.

5/29/2008 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By all means, wear that fuckin hat.

5/29/2008 06:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it laughable that that olivio the 13th ward.. alderfuck..008.. scumbag would complain about lack of Police activity..look at the 13th ward garbage men taking 2-3 hour breaks ..they park illegally on the street while working and are gone for hours where are their supervisors ??

5/29/2008 06:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hats off to Maureen Ziegenhorn for writing the letter to the Supe. requesting that St. Judes be moved back to Michigan Avenue. It belongs there. It was moved to satisfy one person's ego, and enable a small cadre of sycophants to stroke that ego as they climbed the "merit" ranks.

5/29/2008 07:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God, this department has really become a bunch of pussies.

5/29/2008 12:29:00 AM



Ok, "Boss".

5/29/2008 07:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since when isn't zero a number.

5/29/2008 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

400 parkers a day per district , equals 10,000 per day.

at 75.00 a peice ==750,000 per day

times 365 days a year =273 million or so.

5/29/2008 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW!!!

LOOKS LIKE THE MUTTS IN 008 ARE WINNING THE BATTLE..... AGAINST THE BOSSES ..............BUT LOOSING TO THE SHITHEAD PUBLIC.

NICE TRADE OFF!!!! TOO BAD FOR EVERY COPPER THAT LIVES IN 008.


NORTHSIDE CPD

5/29/2008 08:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Imagine that, a boss expecting production from his employees. How dare he.

Maybe production is the wrong word, but he is the boss and it is his job to make sure people are doing theirs.

5/29/2008 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone know when the useless supervisors on third watch in 25 are going to retire? gw-real soon (it's about time)! what about 2540? how about the w/c? these guys are never around even when they are working. this hurts us p.o.'s more than anything.

5/29/2008 08:18:00 PM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

This dept. invites "reverends" into private police roll calls. So now I want my chance to come to my 008th roll call so i can yell at this asshole.

You sir, are a complete and utter ASS. You know damn well what these 008 officers go through on a daily basis. It's so bad, the other day I waved at an officer and thought he was going to have a heart attack because I was nice to him.

But don't worry, karma is a bitch.

the golden arches provides uniforms, too...

5/29/2008 08:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Carson what happened to you I worked with you in 014 years ago and you were a dogass like my self!!!!!!! Oh you also did anything to fuck with the bosses I guess now that you are a boss you have religion c'mon get with it why do anything for this city!!!!!!!

5/29/2008 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
To the police officers in the 8th district.... you forget one important thing....by not doing police work in the district you are also harming your own.....you know the ones that live here because we thought the it was another one of those last stands...I too used to work in the 8th district and remember many nights with non stop assignments from begining to end with few breaks in between....By the way my Beat was 524 you know one of those east end cars.
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WRONG DIstrict Chump, 524??? Are you drunk? JFED!!! get em sober

5/29/2008 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that all the 008 district has? Not having a hat? Your lucky you don't work in 004 on 2W for Capt. Glombicki. He gives a quota everyday for 20 movers and has them go down on a "mission". A dog as a P.O. and is now god asking for everything he never did. And God help you if you don't drink with him, your really in trouble.----Thats why morale is so low, bosses like him who are full of themselves.

5/29/2008 09:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's the a-hole merit gang sgt in 021 that got got a case report for CDTP for a few of his pens got broken in his drawer?!? The topper is this Sgt is one of Doty's merit monsters...how approporiate. Someone from 021 please shed some light on this situation, it is rumored that 021 is sinking faster than the titanic.

TO BE CONTINUED...........

5/29/2008 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Waah Wahh Waah
The Big bad Lt is trying to force me to do police work!
I did'nt get a gun or badge to arrest people, I just wanted a job!
Bitches.

5/29/2008 09:20:00 PM  
Anonymous 08 commando said...

Be careful! That Carson guy was Special Forces in Vietnam. That iliterate hillbilly thing is all an act. He was Spec Ops before it was cool! Dat guy will slit your
troat, then call you on your cell
from 6 blocks away to ask you what happened before you bleed out.
One sneeky petey................

5/29/2008 09:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot of these bosses aren't too bright and they certainly are not leaders. I think we have arrived at a critical mass of bosses who are in positions not due to qualifications but who they know/ blow/ contribute to, etc...
For a long time this department functioned in spite of these bosses through men and women who would bend the rules and work around incompetent white shirts to get the job done. This will happen much less now that most p.o.'s understand that they will be thrown under the bus by the very bosses they are trying to impress if the wind changes direction.
What we are now whitnessing is the Chicago police department trying to be Naperville p.d. in Chicago with unqualified leadership and officers more afraid of their employers than the bad guys.
The results of this idiocy will be measured in the blood spilled in the faster districts of this city where the criminals clearly understand the police have been reduced to ornaments.
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Truth. This says it all.

5/29/2008 09:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:

Ok, I just watched Fr. (and I say Father loosely) Pfleger on you tube speaking at Trinity Church and all I can say is that he definitely needs a psych eval. Most defimundo (bobbing my head and wipin' my brow)

What a phony piece of shit. Cardinal George ought to throw his ass out of St. Sabina and let him go start a storefront Church. See how far he gets without the financial backing of the Archdiocese.

5/29/2008 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where do we cry to? The bosses? Its a f'n blog, who cares. You obviously read it.

5/29/2008 01:06:00 PM

Cry to Cozzie. Cry to Mette. Go cry to the charged SOS officers who followed Finnegan into prison under this department's direction. Cry to Abatte, who's charged with a misdemeanor-felony. Cry to the copper who was found not guilty of a DUI and will be f'd with every day he stays on this job.

Have some goddamn dignity. Crying on a blog because the scary WC yelled at you and made you get your hat.

This department is going to hell in a handbasket and it has nothing to do with the media or Weis or any of the other boneheads that run this circus. Its going down hill because it has too many whinning pussies.

5/29/2008 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

C.E may be a jag, but the next time something happens on the West end of 008, Garcia Ridge, I hope all you critics still support 008th district 3rd watch do nothings. No body watching our homes. Time to protect the homeland if you need activity.

5/29/2008 09:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They sent out an order saying two officers had to be Lidar trained on each watch in each district. Which means someone will be using the Lidar speed gun every day to get movers. Give it to me, I bust it.

5/29/2008 09:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the FU%! is going on in 021! Is it the DOTY curse?

5/29/2008 09:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone hear about the father Pfleger comments? Someone needs to tell him he's white too!

5/29/2008 10:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

He's an asshole, but he's totally within his rank as WC to put people on cars and take them off. He can make you stand at attention for inspection and make you get your hat.

If you don't want to do what he tells you, don't. You won't get fired, but you'll suffer some consequences.

All this crying to SCC because some WC is a jerk.

God, this department has really become a bunch of pussies.

Signed: Inside do nothing.

5/29/2008 10:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YIPEE YAHOO !! Almost one full year of retro pay...Im going to buy some new fuzzy slippers to wear in my cruiser when I take my nappy wappy....zzzzzzzzzz PS, you want more work out of me all you gotta do is GIVE ME A CONTRACT...till then, nighty nite zzzzzzzzzzz

5/29/2008 10:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO 1:02PM
Your right, the new 3rd Watch Captain in 012 is too anal and strictly a house mouse. There are openings on midnights, the only watch left with decent bosses from the Capt & Lt down to the sergeants, but I just can't handle the hours -- so here I am stuck with Capt Anal. It's kind of scary when you look forward to Lt. Jeri to be the watch commander...

5/29/2008 10:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to express thanks to the 019th district for not getting caught up in the SCC hype. I enjoyed the scribble on the men's washroom wall about Weis. Sorry SCC but the wall still has a charm about it.

5/29/2008 10:18:00 PM  
Anonymous "change we can believe in" said...

Who's our favorite DemocRAT "pastor"?

Michael Pfleger or Jeremiah Wright?

5/29/2008 10:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More black eyes for the CPD come sunday! 60 min it just wont go away. Thanks SOS

5/29/2008 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic, but here is what the Bible means by "false prophet!"



http://wadesconservativeworld.blogspot.com/2008/05/father-flager-is-racist-white-priest-he.html

5/29/2008 10:27:00 PM  
Blogger Murphy40Pct said...

Anonymous said...
Blogger Murphy40Pct said...

"""Give him a break- Lt. Ernest has always looked out for coppers. Half the people whine on here about the lack of work done in 008, and now they are going to attack this guy who is one of the really good bosses in the City. He's doing his job, and it's his decision who gets to work where on his watch.

Your an idiot. You punish the whole watch for a car having a empty humper. LT wants to know what that car did for the night. Pull up its event history and pull them into the office alone. The LT sounds like an asshat. Much like your comment. If they are a beat car, all they have to do is ride their beat and answer their call, fill out that report.. Rapid car, patrol their sector and answer their calls and fill out that report. Finally, go home to your family and collect that check on the 1st and 16th. There's Capt. Farrell on midnights in 002. Have the LT watch him as a boss and learn something, see the way he treats his officers."""

It's "you'rE" and "aN empty," retard. I am a friend of Capt. Farrell, and have dealt with Lt. Ernest many times. Grow up. You cash a paycheck kid, you should be doing some work for it. There was no "punishing the whole watch," only having an officer get his hat, as is required, and letting the cars know they can be re-assigned, as is his choice. Get over yourself, you're not a victim. I worked in 002 when the buildings were up, and you have no clue what work is. Just because it is in fashion to brag about being a dog doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. I earn the money I make, and care about the people who pay me. Get over yourself. Either be a man and try to change things for the better, or find a new job. No one owes you a thing.

5/29/2008 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. Earnest--was the "king" for 833's beat--he knew every gangbanger and would mess with them. He never was afraid to be the police--I think he just expects from the officers nothing less then he would do--is that so bad? quit crying and do what this city and what honest citizens expect us to do--protect them!! that was the oath we took--remember

5/29/2008 10:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officer Herrera's interview on 60 minutes this sunday. Go to www.cbsnews.com and click on 60 minutes and then on what's next. He was interviewed by katie couric. That's why couric has been around homan square.

5/29/2008 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Livin in 016 said...

Catchin up on some old posts....IS THE STORY BOUT THE 16th DIST COPPERS TRUE???? Did they really get reamed for goin less than a block out of 16 for a homicide off??? PLEASE FIND OUT MORE SCC. That deserves a post of it's own. I live in 16 and I'm sick to see (read) that if it's true. Too many people bid to 016 to retire and now they fuck w/ a couple guys doin work!!! FUCK YOU BIEBEL, MATULA AND GONZALEZ (I know SGT G. is an asshole from dealing with him more than once. Total arrogant prick.). TO the guys in 16 thanks for still workin in the current climate...It is appreciated. Also any initials for the coppers that did the good work?

5/29/2008 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch out in 008 his juice is the only person Da Mayo is afraid of. His clout is clout of clout and I was told that all inspectors will be flooding the 8th District at the orders of Jfed from Da Mayo from Big Mike!!!! Lt. CE is Commander bound!!!!!!!!!

5/29/2008 10:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Click Click its illegal to park in your driveway and block the sidewalk dickehead.

5/29/2008 11:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

carson;s a tool, but there is no way in hell you can drive around 008 and not do anything. If your that mad quit, leave whatever, your all a bunch of no police...

5/29/2008 11:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC: This just in! PO working the traffic car in 007 on 3rd watch 29 May 08 stops a citizen for doing 57 in a 35 mile an hour zone. PO had a hand held radar gun. Issues a citation to the driver and keeps her license. PO explains the offense and court date to the motorist, who never complained during the stop. At the conclusion of the traffic stop, the motorist asks PO for his name and star number. PO tells her and also shows her where that information is located on the ticket. She thanks PO and they both drive their seperate ways. This PO is the regular traffic car in 007. He and his partner are always being thanked in roll call by the watch commander for their activity. The watch commander has told the 3rd watch numerous times that the traffic car basically writes enough tickets and DUI for the entire watch, and that they should be grateful to have these guys working with them. Back to the speeding motorist. She calls 007th district commander Keith Calloway, the former Lt. Calloway of IAD before being promoted about 5 months ago. She is the secretary of the alderman and asks to have the ticket dismissed. Calloway tells her she can try and have the ticket dismissed in court. She then says the PO was rude, disrespectful, and never asked her if she had a bond card. She says her experience was not "police friendly". Calloway tells the third watch commander that she's beefing and to get a CR on the copper. Watch commander is hesitant to do so. Tells Calloway if she only brought this stuff up after he told her she had to go to traffic it sounds like bullshit. Why wasn't that the first thing she brought up? Calloway says he has dealt with her before and didn't think she was a police hater, so there must be something to her claim. Says he wants a CR on the copper. A sgt is called in and told to get a CR on the PO. The sgt goes to bat for the PO and tells Calloway the guy is a ticket and DUI machine. He deals with hundreds of motorists a period and nobody every beefs him. Sgt tells Calloway it does not sound like this PO at all. Calloway says he wants a CR and they get one on the copper.

A district commander goes against the recommendations of one of his watch commanders and a sergeant, and gets a CR on one of his own people. A PO that writes a ton of movers and DUIs for him every period. Why? Because the aldermen's secretary could not get her ticket dismissed immediately. Calloway is a worthless piece of shit because he has no honor. Not because he didn't back one of his hard working people, which is reason enough for me. He has no honor because he knew she was lying, and he threw a hard working PO under the bus. Fuck Calloway, Fuck Carson Ernest, and Fuck J-Fed who said he "wasn't going to sweat the small stuff".

5/29/2008 11:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Part of the problem is that the Dept provides little incentive to anyone to exert themselves

5/29/2008 11:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LET THE WHITE SHIRTS DO THIS SHIT! IF THEY WERE LAUGHING AND CARRYING ABOUT THEN I WOULD BE WORRIED! BY SHOWING HIS HAND, THIS LT IS TELLING US THAT THE WORK STOPPAGE IS WORKING!!! NICELY DONE! KEEP IT UP 5 MINUTES OF STANDING AT ATTENTION IS WORTH IT! REMEMBER, IF IT GETS TOO BAD, HIT THE MEDICAL... YOU CAN WALK OUT OF ANY ROLL CALL IF YOU DONT FEEL WELL! FUCK THIS GUY! FUCK THE WHITE SHIRTS! CONTINUE THE WORK STOPPAGE! IT IS WORKING THE BOSSES ARE FEELIG THE SQUEEZE AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS... WELL, NOTHING!!! HAHAHAHAHA

5/29/2008 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they dont lock everyone up or write movers but..... If there ever is an incident involving a copper, accident/agg bat, they volunteer to write the paper. They write it the right way.

There is a lot more to police work than numbers. Leave those guys alone.

5/29/2008 03:24:00 PM

Want to explain that statement? What exactly is "the right way"? You don't mean to make sure the paper is written to cover the officer, no matter what the facts show do you? 'Cause I read a lot about "innocent" PO's being stripped on this blog, but when the facts get presented, it seems like not one person, including the police, involved were innocent. Just an observation...

5/29/2008 11:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS IS CARSON EARNEST.. I SAID GET OUT THERE AND LOCK THOSE MOTHER FUCKERS UP.

5/29/2008 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

C. E. = All bark and no bite. Regardless of his antics, he wouldn't "hurt" a copper. Just what I've seen in the last twelve years...

5/29/2008 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

021 district is a joke- commander dopy puts a made srg O'niel in charge of a gang team 2169 and can't pronounce the word ask he says ax- this guy has an IQ of chimp- he finds guns in bushes and trash cans and has the p.o. make out case reports for UUW- this guy is a moron- does anybody in 006 know this clown

5/29/2008 11:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This jagbag must be formed from the same mold as Lt. John Andrews from 011. A couple years back, while as the the Field Lt., he called for an assist car on a traffic stop w/4 heads. The beat car rolls up, properly secures all occupants and proceeds to check vehicle, name check and contact card all occupants. Upon sending the four productive Westside members of society on their way, the good Lt. immediately calls for the sector Sgt. to spar the officers for not having a beat tag on the car. True story. Not sure if the spar ever materialized, but the order by J.A. was initialized. He's since mellowed considerably, but is not to be trusted.

True story? I call bull shit on this one.

Once every blue moon I come on here for shits and giggles to read the headlines on the home page. I really don't get into reading the threads because I really don't have the time and most of it is bull shit anyway.

Every now and then someone emails me to "check this out" on the blog. Some is humorous, some is sad, some is bull shit.

I really enjoyed the satire post a few years back about me declaring 011 a "no laughing zone." I printed that one out, blew it up and hanged it in the office for a while.

As for the above posters comments... on an alleged incident from a "couple of years ago" hmmm... let's see...

Fillmore field lieutenant making street stops... yep sounds like me.

Prompt response by Fillmore Rangers on the assist... Is there any doubt?

Lieutenant observes four cars w/o beat tags... I believe that was possible.

(I vaguely recall a few years back a problem with missing beat tags on a number of cars. There was a rumor floating around that Area Four Detective Division was allegedly looking for a subject of interest in connection with this, allegedly described only as a little leprechaun, allegedly observed by some alleged witnesses, allegedly removing beat tags from cars in the parking lot. Urban legend continued with additional alleged sightings of this little leprechaun in the locker rooms at off hours, allegedly removing name tags from police uniforms. I don't think they ever located the little fellow. Eventually, as most problems do, it faded away.)

Lieuteant calls sergeant to address the issue... I am sure that probably happened too.

Lieutenant orders SPARs for the four cars without beat tags... ummm... that didn't happen.

Officers SPAR'd... that didn't happen either.

Lietenant has since mellowed considerably... Really? (grin)

I guess on this job there are people you like, some you don't like. There are people you trust and people you don't. No need to take it personally, such is life.

I don't mind the shots... it goes with the turf. I think it's good humor to sit back laugh at yourself every now and then. It reminds you not to take life so seriously all the time.

Anyway...

These are tough times we are working in, no doubt about that. There has been a lot of damage done and it will take time to repair and restore the trust of both the public and our own members. I can certainly understand and appreciate the frustration and uncertainty that we face in the current environment.

Keep your heads up and be proud. We serve honorably for an honorable cause. Always believe that and don't ever forget.

Work safe and try to have some fun out there.

JRA

(Now back to your regularly scheduled program...)

5/30/2008 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

first off... I can tell you all the people who are talking about carson on this site im sure are the dog asses on the watch. carson loves workers and wont hurt you if your a worker. most of the dogs on the watch carson has a problem with. ive never had a problem with him and i like it when he is the wc and when he is on the street. Im sure even though there are many comments on this site, but carson... i think your a good boss and dont sweat what these dog asses are sayin about you. you are respected on the watch and the workers all get along with you and appreciate the wisdom and advice you give when it comes to making the arrest or situation right.

5/30/2008 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
anyone know when the useless supervisors on third watch in 25 are going to retire? gw-real soon (it's about time)! what about 2540? how about the w/c? these guys are never around even when they are working. this hurts us p.o.'s more than anything.

5/29/2008 08:18:00 PM

State an example. I am dying of curiousity when one of these class act supervisors has 'not been around' for you.

5/30/2008 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SCC - How do you let this crap through? Does the first line of the quote say that a W/C did a stand up roll call/inspection on Memorial Day against General Orders? WTF? What retard wrote that? If you're going to allow blatant crap like that on your site, then you're obligated to explain how conducting a stand up roll call/inspection on a holiday is against General Orders. Do you actually read the shit that passes through your filtering process?

5/30/2008 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"5/29/2008 11:13:00 PM"

name the alderman.

5/30/2008 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"carson;s a tool, but there is no way in hell you can drive around 008 and not do anything. If your that mad quit, leave whatever, your all a bunch of no police...

5/29/2008 11:06:00 PM"


Sure there is.

After all, 008 is just overflowing with honest, law-abiding citizens who never, ever do anything that the law says they mustn't and always do everything that the law says they must.

You're surely not suggesting that any of these honest, upstanding citizens should be fraudulently charged with violating the law, are you?

5/30/2008 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dont listen to the b.s. carson, your a great boss.. its just the dogs complaining about having to document all the zeros... from an 008 third watch worker(yes... there are a few of us that exist)

5/30/2008 12:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How come on afternoons, the busiest shift you call back there and they take him right away, but on mids at frikin 1am they make you wait 40min-2hrs. UNFUKIN REAL! They should be taking care of their own district guys


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couldnt agree with you more. those guys on mids in 008 lockup are the laziest and slowest people i have ever seen. CIVILIAN Joe H your not the police even though you run around and tell everyone you are in the neighborhood. you guys get a call from a p.o. and sit and stare at the computer and watch your t.v. god forbid if there is another prisoner in there or you just ordered food. the lock up guys on 2nd watch and 3rd watch are REAL lock-up keepers. they will take your guy, seach him and throw him in a holding cell and let you go back on the street. Let go of you ego joe.. your not cool and nobody likes you. and your little pals who claim to be police officers are no better... they pretend to be the big bosses of the lock up world. get a life guys and start doing your job right.

5/30/2008 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Either be a man and try to change things for the better.....

5/29/2008 10:38:00 PM"


That's what's being done, by not doing ANYTHING unlawful during the performance of enforcing the law.

Since you seem not to be completely retarded, you know that you have no case, no reasonable, rational or honest argument to make in encouraging unlawful behaviors merely to 'produce activity', ie., revenue.

Are you at least honest enough to admit your dishonesty?

5/30/2008 01:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Who's our favorite DemocRAT "pastor"?

Michael Pfleger or Jeremiah Wright?

5/29/2008 10:19:00 PM"


Define 'our'.

5/30/2008 01:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Its going down hill because it has too many whinning pussies.

5/29/2008 09:26:00 PM"

You mean the midget's people, right?

5/30/2008 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A district commander goes against the recommendations of one of his watch commanders and a sergeant, and gets a CR on one of his own people.

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That's because a shithead will always be a shithead.........whether they have a gold star, bars, stripes, PO or a criminal. Counter with his own CR# then Tag him and the secretary for the alderman with a suit and bring the sgt and w/c as witness to what dumbass said prior to cr being issued and watch his asshole pucker up so tight a dolphin in the gulf of Mexico will think he's using a mating call.

5/30/2008 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carson might be a hillbilly with an out of date stash,but he won't hurt you,HE cant take you off your car,HE can call you out at roll call and make you look like an ass,but if your intention is to bring in zero's,why did you take this job?I'm sure there will be some stupid responses but why did you take the test?why did you do a 6 month academy?why did you spend $1000 as a ppo to buy your gear?If your took this job to drive in circles and do nothing,go be a valet or a cab driver or just stop bitching and do what you were hired to do-YOUR JOB,or grow some and call him out roll call.

5/30/2008 01:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's an asshole, but he's totally within his rank as WC to put people on cars and take them off. He can make you stand at attention for inspection and make you get your hat.

If you don't want to do what he tells you, don't. You won't get fired, but you'll suffer some consequences.

All this crying to SCC because some WC is a jerk.

God, this department has really become a bunch of pussies.


Are you a fucking moron ?!! This is exactly the venue to let the venom flow. If coppers venting bothers you, stay off the blog tough guy.

5/30/2008 02:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

district commander goes against the recommendations of one of his watch commanders and a sergeant, and gets a CR on one of his own people. A PO that writes a ton of movers and DUIs for him every period. Why? Because the aldermen's secretary could not get her ticket dismissed immediately.=======================PEOPLE LIE ALL THE TIME. I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT IF SOME MAKES AN ALLEGATION OF MISCONDUCT, EVEN IF YOU KNOW, KNOW, ITS B.S., YOU MUST STILL GET A CR WITHIN 1 HOUR. IT DOESN'T MEAN THE COPS IS GUILTY, JUST STARTS AN INVESTIGATION WHICH I HOPE HE WILL BE FOUND IN THE RIGHT....THE SMART THING TO DO IS GET THE CR AND PUT IN THERE THAT SHE BROUGHT UP ALL THE B.S AFTER TRYING TO GET HER TICKET DISMISSED....THATS THEY WAY IT WORKS, OR ACCORDING TO G.O'S IS SUPPOSED TO WORK....REMEMBER THAT FOR THE SGT'S TEST..!! CAN A BOSS GET U OUT WITH SOME SMOOTH TALKING..YUP, BUT BEING THAT ITS A ALD'S B.S. ASS SECT., WELL......SHE GOING TO BEEEF NO MATTER WHAT..PUT ALL HER BS STUFF IN THERE TO CLEAR THE COP DOWN THE LINE.....

5/30/2008 03:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
021 district is a joke- commander dopy puts a made srg O'niel in charge of a gang team 2169 and can't pronounce the word ask he says ax- this guy has an IQ of chimp- he finds guns in bushes and trash cans and has the p.o. make out case reports for UUW- this guy is a moron- does anybody in 006 know this clown

5/29/2008 11:53:00 PM

Doty made O'Neal, but A. Stanley put O'Neal in charge of a gang team.

5/30/2008 03:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO: New captain 012th dist. 3rd watch is calling P/O's in to his office for low activity. Last week robbery car was chasing an armed robbery offender down 290 then s/b on Lake Shore Dr. The captain lets it go for a little while then calls off the chase. This guys asking us to put our asses on the line making arrests but isn't going to risk his six figure spot for an armed robber. Typical!

I´m surprised you made it to LSD to be honest, depending on the time of day.... Be glad you got that in todays climent....

5/30/2008 04:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But its ok for the cop who lives there???? right......Asshole... Hmmmmmmmmm.....

Click Click its illegal to park in your driveway and block the sidewalk dickehead.

5/29/2008 11:04:00 PM

5/30/2008 05:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A district commander goes against the recommendations of one of his watch commanders and a sergeant, and gets a CR on one of his own people. A PO that writes a ton of movers and DUIs for him every period. Why? Because the aldermen's secretary could not get her ticket dismissed immediately. Calloway is a worthless piece of shit because he has no honor. Not because he didn't back one of his hard working people, which is reason enough for me. He has no honor because he knew she was lying, and he threw a hard working PO under the bus. Fuck Calloway, Fuck Carson Ernest, and Fuck J-Fed who said he "wasn't going to sweat the small stuff".
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Lesson, don't be nice to people, they make up BS CR#s which translates from the DC...do nothing.

5/30/2008 05:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A district commander goes against the recommendations of one of his watch commanders and a sergeant, and gets a CR on one of his own people. A PO that writes a ton of movers and DUIs for him every period. Why? Because the aldermen's secretary could not get her ticket dismissed immediately. Calloway is a worthless piece of shit because he has no honor. Not because he didn't back one of his hard working people, which is reason enough for me. He has no honor because he knew she was lying, and he threw a hard working PO under the bus. Fuck Calloway, Fuck Carson Ernest, and Fuck J-Fed who said he "wasn't going to sweat the small stuff".

That should be the last ticket he ever writes for them.....

5/30/2008 05:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Imagine that, a boss expecting production from his employees. How dare he.

5/29/2008 01:38:00 AM

GFY A%%wipe. If he won't back you up, he gets what he deserves.

Hey Lt., get your a$$ out there and bring your districts numbers up yourself.

5/30/2008 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt. O'Neil in 021 was not made by Doty. He has been here for about two yrs. Merit though. "Box of rocks" is insulting to the rocks. Loves getting C.R.s on P.O.s and other Sgts. for finding dope in the back seats of cars. Has no speaking skills nor people skills. The decent guys on his team are miserable and many have left. Apparently had the 63rd St. foot post in 007 and was stabbed by a shoplifter. That's how he got the stripes.

5/30/2008 07:12:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

Hey SCC - How do you let this crap through? Does the first line of the quote say that a W/C did a stand up roll call/inspection on Memorial Day against General Orders? WTF? What retard wrote that? If you're going to allow blatant crap like that on your site, then you're obligated to explain how conducting a stand up roll call/inspection on a holiday is against General Orders. Do you actually read the shit that passes through your filtering process?

We're obligated to explain idiocy? Wow. We'll get right on that. We didn't realize we had to read minds, divine intentions and correct misperceptions.

This must be some nefarious plot by J-Fed and the mayor to slow down the pace of our postings. Like we've got time for that.

We screen for key words mostly and the list is extensive. We don't correct grammar, spelling, style or other such nonsense. We leave that to the English majors who come here daily.

We also remind people that 25% of our traffic comes from outside Chicago. And the local traffic isn't always cops.

And while having a stand up roll call on a holiday isn't against General Orders, it is against tradition. The captains like an easy day as well as the next officers.

5/30/2008 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

".....watch his asshole pucker up so tight a dolphin in the gulf of Mexico will think he's using a mating call.

5/30/2008 01:10:00 AM"


A future classic ball bust.

5/30/2008 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy Shit Stain Batman!!!

In the next few days I will prepare a menu to deal with an idiot boss like this one. Apparently, he didn't see the streaming video presented by our appointed federal police manager and da mayor's new rules of conduct and ethics.

All bosses have vulnerabilities and I will direct you how to expose their corruptions. Bosses should beware that J-fed hasn't been tested regarding how he will deal with a problem boss.

5/30/2008 08:05:00 AM  

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