J-Fed's Town Hall Meeting
Take 2 - now he's meeting with supervisors:
- 27 August
- 10 September
- 30 September
All at Headquarters, all at 1900 hours. Seeing as how at least one of the louder complaining PO's got dumped after he was identified as a malcontent, we'd imagine that these will be the quietest meetings in history. We're looking for a few reports from the scene this coming Wednesday.
Labels: department issues, new super
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
96 Comments:
Why waste your time? I'd rather sip a cup of coffee and read while "patrolling" the DOC.
These meetings serve only one purpose,to mine intelligence in order to find new ways to fuck over the Rank & File. Shame on you Gullible Goofs that took the bait.
BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU SHIT!!
Desperation has truly set in, they are now trying to coerce management into being bullies to the patrolmen and dics.
"Seeing as how at least one of the louder complaining PO's got dumped after he was identified as a malcontent . . . "
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Do tell?
Who? What? Where?
hahahahah
this is great!
They are like a bunch of broads sitting around asking themselves why men like football, beer and big ..... steaks......
Will they check ID's? Watch what you say, Cuello will take notes and names. She is vindictive. He is not there to hear your concerns. Smoke and mirrors.
"Nice"
Five Feet : )
At this meeting, I hope to see a few stand tall. Especially the old timers.
Oh sure,I'll be there..not.
Been to countless focus meetings over the years and heard exempts ramble at in-service classes...all smoke and mirrors and most of us know it.
This is going to be J-Fed , Bla , Bla , Bla , Bla . The supervisors will say this ...... NOTHING and nod their heads in agreement to everything the boss says. What a croc.
Does anyone really think they actually are interested or care about how we feel or our viewpoints? You can bet the usual suck ups will attend.
J-Fed is going to be at the front Kings throne waiting to see how many Stupervisors kiss his new ring!
Quiet? Shoot, ain't nobody gonna show up for that.
ITS A SCAM TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET MORE PRODUCTION FROM THE BLUE SHIRTED SLAVES...
TRUST ME AUNT BEA AT WITS END BUT SHE LOVE TO STEAL A GOOD IDEA.
WHEN IS THE CAMERA WAGON GOING INTO AFFECT?
IT GIVES THE LOWLY SGT'S A CHANCE TO BREAK OUT THEIR TERM PAPERS THEY USED AT SAINT XAVIERS AND CAL COLLEGE. ALL THOSE BRIGHT IDEAS LIKE NEW TAHOES AND DRINKING GENERAL ORDERS.
ChapStick sales will be going through the roof.
Not available. Everything I have to say has been published on the blog already. J-Clown read the sentences and between the lines YOUR Finished!
Anonymous said...
"Seeing as how at least one of the louder complaining PO's got dumped after he was identified as a malcontent . . . "
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Do tell?
Who? What? Where?
8/22/2008 12:22:00 AM
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He spoke up at one of the meetings about how he had a beef placed against him and he was able to prove via a in car camera the comp was out and out lying. When he asked the dept to charge the complainant with false reports because of the signed affidavit he was told to go pound sand. He hit J-fed with this and J-fed hemmed and hawed. Aunt Bea was so upset that this Officer embarrassed J-Fed she called the academy where he worked and had him transferred to 002. I know you think, so what, he worked at the Academy? Well he was in the process of working with the State Police to re-write the DUI order and re-vamp the class on how it is taught to the recruits. (The class was old and needed updating) He put in a lot of work and It was all thrown out the window when he left. From what I understand the State Police were not happy with his transfer either.
I think the best way to send him a message is for ZERO to attend...I think it would be amusing to see the powers that be sitting alone in the meeting room on three different occassions waiting for SOMEONE to show up....
I think Sergeant John Northern should attend this meeting and convey the sentiments of those who wear chevrons and bars.
I went to a previous bullshit "town meeting" with Mr Weis.
Not one of the complaints or suggestions brought up to him has been implemented. Not fucking one! Lying sack of shit sounded very sympathetic. It is just a dog and pony show. I suggest go drunk and then fart and belch and vomit and see what happens.
The best thing to do is not show up at all. It would be like hosting a party at your house and nobody showing up. I believe it would send a very strong message.
I went to the one at Wright and I have never heard any boss beg people to work, JPUD is pathetic and he has lost all control of the dept. Please guys and gals do not show, why should he be given any ideas on how to run our show. He has showed his true colors and we should show ours by not attending any meetings. Let him sit there with Aunt (i'm over my head twitching) Bea while it is an empty forum.
Aug 21, 11:24 PM EDT
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AM720
THE KING HAS NO CLOTHES
We�re all familiar with the fable of the �naked king�. The story of this 14th or 15th century king who runs around naked, but nobody says a word, or even acknowledges the fact for fear of being beheaded, or burned at the stake, or dropped in boiling oil or whatever they did to people who insulted the king in those days. It was just fear then.
Yep, nobody in their right mind will say a peep to J-Fed.
On second thought though, seeing J-Fed in his birthday suit would be very revolting.
Will aunt Bea be servig beer?
I've said it before and I'll say it again.......
NEVER EVER TRUST A FED........
RETIRED IN 2003
yes b/c the meeting with the blue shirts really helped and changed a lot!!! why would you waste your time?
ask aunt Bea when can we expect Mo-Pod to hit the streets, i'm dying to see this.
Kinda reminds ya of STALIN'S staff meetings; someone was always dragged away screaming and never heard from again.
"HEIL"!! Oops, thats the other guy;
the one who got caught in the winter storm..........
I'll make one of them for sure.
I'm a bid on midnights, do I get paid overtime to go? I could stretch it right up to 2300 for a nice 6 hour OT check!! No? Then I'm a no-show!!
Oh, yes! After the new mandate for inspectors to go after supervisors, I'm sure I'll be spending my personal time to attend one of Jody's lovefests. Not.
Let him come up with his OWN ideas on how to improve the department. He's way smarter than we are and he proves it every day.
Remember this boys and girls, a totalitarian dictator does not tolerate condescension, if you speak your mind you may be gone.
"Well, my trusted supervisors, this is your chance to speak up without any fear of retaliation"
**the sound of crickets chirping**
"Any issue at all."
**sound of grass growing.**
"Come on, I WANT to hear whats on your minds. really."
**sound of paint drying**
Okay, slightly OT, but...at last night's Budget hearing at the South Shore Cultural Center, the one and only "Queen Sistah" got up to the mike and said to our fearless leader: "Jody Weasel, you made a bad mistake closing down CAPS..." JODY WEASEL!! hahahaha!
BOSSES, do not attend these meetings! Do not give these assholes a minute of time or a symbolic vote of confidence.
I was going to list the excuses you could use to be otherwise occupied at the time of these meetings, but I will not give these jagoffs a thing to read and remember when these meetings are poorly attended, but do anything else than give these jagoffs a minute of time. Fuck Weis and Cuello, they are out to stick it to us. They do not want to help us, blue or white shirt.
And think about it, there is probably not one Sergeant remaining on the job that was never an FOP member and was unprotected, at sometime during their career, by a contract. If there are, it is not very many. Daley, Weis and Cuello are behind an effort to eliminate or diminish your contract rights, and a lot of good men and women worked very hard so they, and ultimately you, would be protected by a contract and to prevent these assholes from jamming you up worse than they can currently jam you. Imagine if there was no contract. It sucked, believe it, it sucked. DO NOT GIVE THEM A SUBLIMINAL VOTE OF CONFIDENCE BY ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS! Remember 021! He demanded that the Supervisors leave and not attend his meeting with the watch troops. Keep doing just that, do not attend. They have blinked first, just watch Cuello's eyes!
Stay Safe, Stay Strong, Stay Together.
These meetings are like our Caps meeting do you remember what you thought of the people attending the meetings, the command staff is sitting at the table looking at the police in the room and they are thinking "WHAT A BUNCH OF GOOFS" nothing will get solved BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. Remember together we can.
I love the blank look on these white-shirt's faces when they come to roll call. They all look puzzled and scared to death, hilarious....
Why waste your time? I'd rather sip a cup of coffee and read while "patrolling" the DOC.
I love when some PPO asks me where the DOC is this week.
Like I know or care. What am I gonna do? A dispersal?
Hahaha! !!!
Suckers!!
No one will say anything or do anything because everyone is afraid.We are a spineless bunch of whiners and pussies,maybe we DO deserve what we got!We have patrolmen who don't patrol,supervisors who don't supervise and exempts whp aren't exemplary.Hey dummies everyone is laughing at us.
Do tell?
Who? What? Where?
8/22/2008 12:22:00 AM
Go back and read through the posts around the time of the town hall meetings. It's discussed there.
The new cruisers have some nifty components to them. The cup holders are to die for. Anyone want to race me?
Dear Supervisors, a letter of notice. If you fuck with me I'm going to hit the Medical Roll. Remember, it's nice to be nice.
Fellow Officers Do a good job and help people, you will be noticed and promoted. Ignore the man behind the curtain.
The new cruisers have stabilizer bars, WOW !
Meetings ? We don't need no stinking meetings.
Weis appears a little bit smaller. He must be cycling his roids.
Fatman here along with the Boy Blunder...To the fatcave and the fatmobile (aka cruisers).
why bother? do they think their fooling anyone with their "we really care and what to hear" BS? Nothing has changed on this dept. in fact, it's gotten worse. I don't trust J-Fed and the other brass and I will not waste my time or risk any retaliation for speaking my mind.
when is j-fed-no balls, coming to meet the detectives in the areas, like 1,2, and 4. No morale, clout females have all the inside jobs.
A certain 2nd watch captain fell off his chair in the watch commanders office and is now alledgedly on iod, whereas a week ago he was seen with his leg wrapped up, under his uniform pants, dragging it in pain. coicidence, his knee was injured during his fall out of his chair. Im calling bullshit,oh by the way same capt who wanted 5 parkers and a mover out of everyone on the watch or else >>>>>>>>
HEY JODY, See All this? And you wonder why we drink?
Is Sgt special K going to be in the crowd with a paper bag over his asking the tough questions. All while standing on his dork mobile.
WARNING! DO NOT HAVE FOOD OR DRINK IN YOUR MOUTH BEFORE YOU READ THIS POST. OTHERWISE YOU'LL HAVE TO BUY A NEW COMPUTER SCREEN.
There is only one way for the sergeants to get their point across to the new superintendent. Only ONE sergeant will attend. He must be their best. It has to be their best.
It must be Sgt. A.Z..
I hope you guys from the 11th District read the food and drink warning...:)
the meetings are a waste of time...most have an appreciation of the incompetent, political, and dangerous nature of City Hall and upper CPD management; it seems that the rank and file are and have been responding appropriately..
Aunt Bea was so upset that this Officer embarrassed J-Fed she called the academy where he worked and had him transferred to 002. I know you think, so what, he worked at the Academy? Well he was in the process of working with the State Police to re-write the DUI order and re-vamp the class on how it is taught to the recruits. (The class was old and needed updating) He put in a lot of work and It was all thrown out the window when he left. From what I understand the State Police were not happy with his transfer either.
8/22/2008 08:13:00 AM
I love this Dept!
And They wonder what the problem is..........
Every suckhole piece of shit sergeant who is turning in a merit package for LT because they weren't smart enough to get a decent test score will be there. You can be sure they will identify themselves and suck his ass while "respectfully" identifying ways they feel the Department can be better. There will be NO adversarial speeches, only shameless self-promotion and ass kissing.
They should charge admission for spectators to witness the stupidity.
Every suckhole piece of shit sergeant who is turning in a merit package for LT because they weren't smart enough to get a decent test score will be there. You can be sure they will identify themselves and suck his ass while "respectfully" identifying ways they feel the Department can be better. There will be NO adversarial speeches, only shameless self-promotion and ass kissing.
can the four real sergeants that are not merit from 022 attend and spy on the meeting for the troops.
All the nineteenth ward merit appointee sergeants assigned to 022 will attend the meetings and kiss j-feds ring and wrinkled fore head and the lick aunt bees toes, to appease the vindictive witch. Why does the nineteenth ward have the most merit appointed sergeants and they all get units or the fighting 022 district.
I CAN ONLY THINK OF THE SADDAM HUSSEIN SPEECH BEFORE HE KILLS THE TRAITORS AMONGST THEM!!! Praise be to JFED and Daley
I'm certain the only ones asking questions will be legit promoted supervisors the others will remain quiet in fear of being outed!!!!
"Seeing as how at least one of the louder complaining PO's got dumped after he was identified as a malcontent . . . "
He got dumped to 002 and did good work. Didn't dog it -- wouldn't had blamed him. Did traffic and DUIs. Bid out of 002 and went to 018. Good guy from my brief time working with him.
I was a sucker at the other town hall meetings. I actually believed the bullshit he was saying. I left there looking forward to a whole lotta changes. No really. I actually said afterwards to my fellow coppers, "give this guy a chance."
I cannot believe my own stupidity. This qualifies me for the meritorious program for fast track to Lt.
This guy's a real good speaker, so watch yourselves sgts. Stay safe and lighten up on us with this accountability crap!!
What ever happened to Former Beat 222 Now A Suckass Fed Bitch Doing Jack Shit?
He was all high-and-mighty about how FBI guy was going to come in and clean up the CPD. Now that J-Fed has fallen on his face, you don't hear shit from him.
Hmmm. . .
fyi..I'm not the biggest fan of Jody. However, Jesus Christ couldn't make coppers happy.
J-Fed not having You guys are missing something here. This is another example of J-Fed not having a clue about the real police. This meeting is for Sgt.s, Lt.s & Capt.s. To J-Fed, FBI guy, we are all just supervisors. There is a vast difference in the issues and concerns between the three groups. At the very least, Sgt.s have much different issues that Lt.s and Capt.s. And, what Sgt. will get up and speak freely when he/she looks over and sees his/her watch commander sitting there. Each rank should be met with separately. J-Fed, clueless.
Can I beef with a bag over my head?? just axing.
According to da mayor shortshanks, JFed gets paid enough buckaroos to come up with his own ideas on how to improve the dept. He doesn't need to have a love fest with the blue shirts.
how about having a love-in and smoke some weed . peace.
maharishi
A certain 2nd watch captain fell off his chair in the watch commanders office and is now alledgedly on iod, whereas a week ago he was seen with his leg wrapped up, under his uniform pants, dragging it in pain. coicidence, his knee was injured during his fall out of his chair. Im calling bullshit,oh by the way same capt who wanted 5 parkers and a mover out of everyone on the watch or else >>>>>>>>
8/22/2008 05:40:00 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is too f*cking much! Please out the capt w/ initials and dist. Is his photo displayed at the medical section "hall of shame"?? i.e. med roll abusers??
signed,
your friendly the medical roll abuse squad.
A certain 2nd watch captain fell off his chair in the watch commanders office and is now alledgedly on iod, whereas a week ago he was seen with his leg wrapped up, under his uniform pants, dragging it in pain. coicidence, his knee was injured during his fall out of his chair. Im calling bullshit,oh by the way same capt who wanted 5 parkers and a mover out of everyone on the watch or else >>>>>>>>
8/22/2008 05:40:00 PM
I came on this department over 23 years ago and my watch commander had the exact same accident. Do you think it could be the same chair?
I am a supervisor and will not attend, and I agree that no supervisor should attend.
Ever try speaking up to your exempt supervisor now? In the privacy of his own office? It doesn't work. They don't give a damn, and they don't want to hear it. Because they might have to take some action, which requires having a brain and a spine.
So why hang yourself and be critical of "his" department in public? The problem starts with "his" selected exempt. Who's going to say that out loud?
The sad thing is only the incompetent, self-serving, pompous supervisors will show. Once again giving "him" a false report.
anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
"Seeing as how at least one of the louder complaining PO's got dumped after he was identified as a malcontent . . . "
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Do tell?
Who? What? Where?
8/22/2008 12:22:00 AM
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He spoke up at one of the meetings about how he had a beef placed against him and he was able to prove via a in car camera the comp was out and out lying. When he asked the dept to charge the complainant with false reports because of the signed affidavit he was told to go pound sand. He hit J-fed with this and J-fed hemmed and hawed. Aunt Bea was so upset that this Officer embarrassed J-Fed she called the academy where he worked and had him transferred to 002. I know you think, so what, he worked at the Academy? Well he was in the process of working with the State Police to re-write the DUI order and re-vamp the class on how it is taught to the recruits. (The class was old and needed updating) He put in a lot of work and It was all thrown out the window when he left. From what I understand the State Police were not happy with his transfer either.
8/22/2008 08:13:00 AM
I know the copper in question.... he is a fantastic policeman. Paid his dues in a ghetto district for several years and was a 'go to' guy for a lot of the hot paperwork (batt po's etc....the serious stuff that has to have the i's dotted ant the t's crpssed) ... ended up teaching at the academy.... Softspoken, knowledgeable, professional: everything that J-Fed should WANT at the academy. The type of guy who would stay after shift to help out a younger po with a pinch on a friday or saturday night just to be a good guy- no slip dropped, no paper hopping. What a shame. One of the few guys that really, REALLY deserves any 'spot' he lands.... And the 'think tank' wonders why morale is in the tank.... A well-respected guy like this attends a meeting set up by J-fed FOR THE PURPOSE OF FIELDING QUESTIONS, and he gets dumped back to the deuce for... asking questoins?? I am embarrassed for both J-Fed and Aunt Bea. It's 'leadership' like this that makes me ashamed of this shithole....
anonymous said...
Dear Supervisors, a letter of notice. If you fuck with me I'm going to hit the Medical Roll. Remember, it's nice to be nice.
8/22/2008 03:05:00 PM
I'll one up that, my friend. ILL STOP WEARING MY SEATBELT. Sgts. get written up if po's are not wearing their belts. THEN I'll hit the medical. hahahahha
Maybe Jody should think about doing what Chief Charles Ramsey [ex-ret. CPD] did with his Force,actually Demoted Supervisors who were clearly Idiots and not competent. That could be a start.
Dear Supervisors, a letter of notice. If you fuck with me I'm going to hit the Medical Roll. Remember, it's nice to be nice.
Big deal, you were probably a dog to begin with, hope you are home for that med check!...hahaha
Why go? O'keefe is running the department.
Im gonna go and tell jfed, great job, morale is up and crime is down. You can wear my uniform boss.I have given up all independent thought, its too difficult. I wonder if I can move to China there I wont have to think at all.
Fellow Officers Do a good job and help people, you will be noticed and promoted. Ignore the man behind the curtain.
Sure you will. I have a bridge for sell are you interested?
Every suckhole piece of shit sergeant who is turning in a merit package for LT because they weren't smart enough to get a decent test score will be there. You can be sure they will identify themselves and suck his ass
You don't get it! Numerous Clouted folks receive high marks on the test because they are in the special study groups by invite only, along with those who just out and out receive the answers on the test. what the fuck is your problem . These test are NOT LEGIT. Our own personal help to write the test. Brad Wood(now retired) was one who helped write the test. Do you really think no one got a copy of the questions.The whole process is Juice, who you know etc.
I'm certain the only ones asking questions will be legit promoted supervisors the others will remain quiet in fear of being outed!!!! Then
you would be wrong, We have no supervisors with any BALLS. all are in fear.
when is j-fed-no balls, coming to meet the detectives in the areas, like 1,2, and 4. No morale, clout females have all the inside jobs.
8/22/2008 04:52:00 PM
If you're a detective stud why do you want an inside job?
You're probably the same douche bag that used to bitch about the people that worked the desk.
You do realize that you're a police officer, right?
The 018th District 2nd Watch Commander who went I.O.D, after limping around the station for a week is R.Z. He was so upset that they moved his boyfriend,the 2nd watch Desk Sergeant to the 3rd watch, that he claimed he fell off a chair in the Watch Commander's Office. What a phony. If a P.O did this he would fuck with him forever. I.A.D please investigate this matter.
"You're probably the same douche bag that used to bitch about the people that worked the desk.
You do realize that you're a police officer, right?
8/23/2008 04:13:00 PM"
You're probably a femalethat came on this job to bat your eyes & spend your career talking tuff from behind a desk,or the husband othe aforementioned w/this overbearing sense of self-entitlement.
Hypocrite Cowards the lot of you.
Okay, slightly OT, but...at last night's Budget hearing at the South Shore Cultural Center, the one and only "Queen Sistah" got up to the mike and said to our fearless leader: "Jody Weasel, you made a bad mistake closing down CAPS..." JODY WEASEL!! hahahaha!
8/22/2008 11:58:00 AM
Okay, that's too f*cking funny. wish I was there.
I am going and tell dept supt Cuello that you guys accused her of bartending. Stop that rumor NOW. I may have only one year on but I know this is not true.
I asked my great uncle Tom Byrne.
"You're probably a femalethat came on this job to bat your eyes & spend your career talking tuff from behind a desk,or the husband othe aforementioned w/this overbearing sense of self-entitlement.
Hypocrite Cowards the lot of you."
I'm not the original writer you have reponded to but thinking about it: most women don't use the term 'douche bag' it's nearly as bad to them as the 'c' word. The writer is more than likely a male.
You, on the hand, probably haven't had a date for a while or tend to hit on other cop's wives or girlfriends in your stupidity. Stop taking our your anxiety about never getting laid again out on the female officers of this department.
And stay away from my wife.
Loser.
I think it would be amusing to see the powers that be sitting alone in the meeting room on three different occassions waiting for SOMEONE to show up....
8/22/2008 09:02:00 AM
::::crickets chirping::::
Anonymous said...
Okay, slightly OT, but...at last night's Budget hearing at the South Shore Cultural Center, the one and only "Queen Sistah" got up to the mike and said to our fearless leader: "Jody Weasel, you made a bad mistake closing down CAPS..." JODY WEASEL!! hahahaha!
8/22/2008 11:58:00 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
i know at least 2 kiss-ass, no-brain sgts will be at one of those meetings...sgt. ray hamilton and the "I can't stop talking because I love to hear the sound of my own voice" male sgt. who used to be on days in 010 (don't know if he made the move with Aunt Bea or not).
And, what Sgt. will get up and speak freely when he/she looks over and sees his/her watch commander sitting there.
++++++
There's a sgt in 011 that would. He doesn't give a f*** what the WC thinks.
Anonymous said...
Can I beef with a bag over my head?? just axing.
8/23/2008 12:01:00 AM
make sure you go to 26th st to get your fake CPD id first.
"You, on the hand, probably haven't had a date for a while or tend to hit on other cop's wives or girlfriends in your stupidity. Stop taking our your anxiety about never getting laid again out on the female officers of this department.
And stay away from my wife.
Loser.
8/24/2008 06:39:00 AM"
Talk about issues, actually I find myself fending of your wifes unwanted advances. Apparently the guilt of being w/a spineless warped degenerate the likes of you compels her to seek validation & restore the dignity she lost.Tragic
What if someone threw a party and nobody showed??
Sergeant to the 3rd watch, that he claimed he fell off a chair in the Watch Commander's Office. What a phony. If a P.O did this he would fuck with him forever. I.A.D please investigate this matter.
8/23/2008 04:30:00 PM
Damn!!!That chair has been around for at least 20years. Many people have "fallen" off that same chair for IOD injuries enabling them to go on light or limited duty. Some have fallen off that f*cken chair and got disability. When is the dept. finally gonna fire that damn chair?? (or at least get a CR#??) I think IAD has to take seriously look at that chair.
Maybe Jody should think about doing what Chief Charles Ramsey [ex-ret. CPD] did with his Force,actually Demoted Supervisors who were clearly Idiots and not competent. That could be a start.
8/23/2008 02:04:00 AM
How about started with the dics who don't do any work???
Zawis probably got this idea at a Captain's Association meeting. This is not a new scam. Over the last 20 years, Captains in 005, 009and 023 have all done the old falling out or down routine. Two fell out of chairs and one fell in the snow covered parking lot. All of the occurrences were, in truth, unwitnessed, but each compelled a trusted sidekick to be their witness, and all three of the captains were subsequently successful in their quest to be granted the untaxed 75% disability pay until they turned 63 years of age. Then, each retired at the captain's wages in effect on the date of their official retirement, not the date of their alleged injury. Corruption at its lowest. And the other thing all three had in common was each was a true piece of shit. Zawis is no different. The only reason Cline, Carrol, Chiczewski, Grau, Rosebrock, and Williams didn't try to use their falls out of a chair as a reason to get the 75% was, when they fell out of the chair, they did it in front of the Mayor or J-PUD, in response to the bad career news, and neither Dickie or the Pud would agree to be the needed witness!
"Talk about issues, actually I find myself fending of your wifes unwanted advances."
In your dreams.
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