Trib Late - J-Fed Backtracks
The Tribune comes late to the game, publishing their story at almost 7pm on Saturday. And now the J-Fed isn't calling it a "removal of responsibilities:"
- Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis said his No. 2 man will no longer deal with administrative personnel duties, giving him more time to focus on day-to-day operations.
Weis said Saturday that the changes are not a criticism of First Deputy Supt. James Jackson, but merely part of an ongoing effort to separate administrative activities from daily crime fighting.
Things must have been going hot and heavy between the west side "reverends" associations and City Hall to get J-Fed to hold a press conference on a Saturday. Here's the facts on the ground for anyone doubting what this was:
- This was released late on a Friday night, the time when all unpopular changes, smear jobs, hidden promotions and anything the powers-that-be don't want to be around answering questions for.
- Somehow, Frank Main and Fran Spielman had enough for a Saturday story. That means Jackie Heard, the mayor's media mouthpiece called these two and leaked the entire story to them. It obvious to anyone not entirely ignorant that the Tribune was shut out of the loop, probably because of recent Kass articles.
We also got a letter from a west side copper who related they had spoken to the First Deputy's office people and they had no clue this story was even in the Sun Times today. True? We wouldn't doubt it in the least - we certainly wouldn't put anything past the current political and Department regimes.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
73 Comments:
OT I would consider voting for Obama except that he is also a puppet of the mayor. Win or lose the mayo owns him. I do not want anyone in the White House the mayo owns. Something smells here the mayo rarely endorses anyone and he endorsed Obama shortly after he announced. Obama was last among all of the Dems running for pres with about 4% of the vote in early polling. The mayo does not endorse unless he has some insider information!!!!!!!!!
Vote Mccain if not Nader dont give the vote to Obamayo!!!
Weiss said he was at a loss in the story. Is he that clueless? Or surronded by numerous back stabbers hiding the truth from him. Without the power of transfers and merit promotions, what is left for the 1st? No matter how they spin this, Jackson lost his power and infulence.
Well, it's ALMOST a retraction, but it still yanks the power from Jackson and hands it to Daley's guy, so in the end all it really turns out to be is a lesson in etiquette for Jody.
Next time, he'll be NICER when he emasculates someone..
Alas, merit promotions. What does it mean to be "meritoriously" promoted? Neither you, nor me, will every actually know. But we do know that we will never stop this process. We can, however, ask for a concession which would probably quiet the crowd:EXCLUDE MERIT PROMOTIONS FOR FIRST-TIME TEST TAKERS!!! Merit promotions are, in theory, designed to promote those that did not do well on tests who have proven themselves to be leaders. If a leader takes a test and fails, he or she should be more accepting of the fact that they need to try harder on the next one. If they fail a second time, well, there are exceptions as the unfortunate fact also is that the promotional tests are primarily based upon information that you will have in a book around you while doing your job...and remembering, for a test, who to notify in the case of an agg batt, robbery, etc, does not make a person a leader. Everyone knows this, too.As an added bonus of this idea, in stopping first-time test takers from being meritoriously promoted, those who have "favors" will at least gain some experience at the rank they will be stuck at to learn their job a bit better while they wait for the second test before being promoted. There are some good bosses who were meritorious...and their names are never mentioned here. Probably because they are actually leaders...
It's a shame. I always saw James Jackson as good boss. Always looked out for the blue shirts. J-fed wonders why he gets no respect? Since he's been here all he's done is strip people left and right. Don't get me wrong, all the new bosses have done it, and some people needed it, but maybe it's just the randomness of how he does it that rubs people the wrong way. Isn't it obvious that the guy has no clue about what he's doing richy? Politics have no place in law enforcement. Get someone in that has a an idea of how police work should be done.
Stop making fun of our Mayor. He did what was right. He relieved J-Fed of OEMC and Terrorist Activities and he still makes the double check. He is just evening the score for the non-white guy. He no longer has 1st Deputy responsibilities, but gets double pay. Works for them. Next...B-Cuelo. Gets Deputy pay to get beat up by her brothers or bartend. Works for them....
James Jackson is one good guy to work for. That civilan that is getting all that power is a real good friend of Daley from way back.
BACKSTABBING SNAKES.JUST LIKE THE FBI.
Ted O'Keefe, who oversees the department's Bureau of Administrative Services, came from 311 as the Director. He has been a long time Daley friend and was a priest at one time, and gave it up to get married.
This is a reaction to Cline's administration. He put so many of his people in the meritorious slots that I am sure the pols and the mayor got upset. Look at his last exempt promotion when he was almost out the door.
Now, all meritorious will be political with the mayor's people handling it.
CAR 47 Speical K is up for another promotion.
umm SCC. the letter you got came from a secondary officer.. I put the call in because I feel the rank and file should know the truth not rumors. P.S. (to the other "PO" stay off my coat tails and stop taking credit for my actions ..because when I go down I promise not to take you with me.)
L.I.FM
I was running along the lakefront wtih my dog this morning and noticed a trail of shit. I looked a lil further up and saw the midget on his bike holding a leash with j-fed on all 4s' panting away. J-FED YOU ARE FULL OF IT. Do us all a favor and quit. You are the worst ever and the crime wave you created and bad morale will be your legacy.
12:30 AM
Vote McCAIN period. If you vote for Nader, you've wasted your vote.
Could 12:30 AM be a "dirty trickster" for "the Messiah rock star"?
Hmmmm.....
the mayor's buddy given the D/S job of admin services, then becomes responsible for coming up with his own process for how people will be promoted meritoriously, then becomes head of the committee who appoints people by merit.
That's so simple and transparent, why has the media not jumped on Daley's ass for this?
Anyone know if the monitor is looking into this because the entire idea of giving promotions to politically connected people rather than to those who have tested hi enough to qualify is what Shakman's all about.
I think the merit process itself should be taken to court by Shakman and the process destroyed. There's no excuse for it in the first place, and to those who say some great leaders can't take tests very well, I say they then have a learning deficiency or some other defective mental process which renders them damaged goods in the decision making process of supervision.
After all, these people were smart enough to pass the tests to get their credit hours so they could be promoted in the first place correct?
Shakman, take on the merit process NOW as it has become ripe for local courts or the appellates
WATCH VERY CAREFULLY FOR THE NEW LT LIST...
THE NEW BATCH OF BOSSES R GOING TO BE THE NEW WAVE OF CLOUT ONCE J-FED LEAVES THE CPD.
LOOKS 4 MOVES SOON OF SGT FROM GREAT UNIT BACK 2 DISTRICT TO MAKE THE SHEET LOOK LIKE SGTS IN PATROL GET PROMOTED!
CERTAIN COMMANDERS R BEING BEING XXXTRA FRIENDLY TO ALDERMAN FOR THE NEXT SHAKE UP AND R FILLING IN CITY HALL WITH ALL J-FEDS BRILLIANT MOVES.
Ted O'Keefe, Daley's Prairie Avenue neighbor, is just another Daley civilian loyalist who hasn't a clue concerning actual police work.
No matter how good or bright you are as a police officer, you will go nowhere without the blessing of Daley's surrogate O'Keefe.
The Shakman decree is meaningless.
CLOUT, CLOUT and MORE CLOUT!
By "obnoxious Sox fans", you must be referring to the guys reminiscing about the recent Sox World Series win. The World Series win that occurred in their life time.
I've been in a unit for a long time, and I know I have it better than most so I don't bitch a lot. However, the last 4 LT's I've worked for were blatantly and admittedly "merit". 3 of the 4 had also been merit Sgt's. Those same 3 out of 4 also were promoted to LT out of this same unit then brought back within a year. I could also tell you how incredibly unintelligent that 3 out of the 4 were, but that might come across as sour grapes...
End "merit" NOW!
JUST ANOTHER KNEE JERK REACTION. THIS DEPARTMENT IS A FREAKIN JOKE! ITS A DOG AND PONY SHOW! AS THEY MANEUVER AROUND LOOKING FOR THE SOLUTION THEY ARE HYPNOTIZING US WITH SMOKE AND MIRRORS. IS THIS REALLY GONNA GO ON FOR 3 YEARS WHILE J}WEISS COLLECTS HIS PAY-CHECK. I MEAN GIVE ME A BREAK WHAT ARE WE LITTLE KIDS?
PRODUCTIVITY IS IN THE DUMPSTER FOR MANY OBVIOUS REASON!
FOR ONE WHO LIKES WORKING 6 DAYS!
SECONDLY YOU HIRED A FED TO RUN THE POLICE DEPT! THAT WAS SMART.
ITS LIKE HIRING A FAT PERSON WHO HAS HIS ARTERIES CLOGGED AND MAKING HIM THE MANAGER OF BURGERKING! OF COURSE HES GONNA BE ON PINS AND NEEDLES TO DO ANY TYPE OF WORK!
THIS MAN IS NOTHING MORE THAN A FAKE.
OH , ANOTHER REASON NO CONTRACT!
YEAH I FEEL VERY APPRECIATED.LOL
GET THE CONTRACT DONE NOW! CHANGE OUR WORK SCHEDULE NOW!
Why is any of the current problems 1. morale 2. increase in crime (homicides) 3. lack of revenue by police (tickets) Jacksons fault. Jackson did not put forward policy. Jfed you are an over paid enron ceo, its your fault not Jacksons. Why dont you and your think tank , one of whom got caught double dipping, redeploy swat and put desk people on the street remember what a great plan that was.Go back to the fbi where you can send millions of tax dollars locking up old men with poker machines. Iam so glad I have just two months left. Good luck brothers its only getting worse.
Anonymous said...
Weiss said he was at a loss in the story. Is he that clueless? Or surronded by numerous back stabbers hiding the truth from him. Without the power of transfers and merit promotions, what is left for the 1st? No matter how they spin this, Jackson lost his power and infulence.
8/24/2008 12:50:00 AM
We need a new blog:
www.SecondCityGoldStars.com
Boy I would LOVE to know what they are thinking!!!
We can, however, ask for a concession which would probably quiet the crowd:EXCLUDE MERIT PROMOTIONS FOR FIRST-TIME TEST TAKERS!!!
How about exclude assholes that don't even SIT fo the gruling 2nd part of the test!
Holy J-Pull This Batman!!!
J-clown has glued his hand and is pulling his prick too hard. Da Mayor and his merry band of idiot Alderman have fucked up the police department beyond recognition because of a couple of idiot drunken coppers. Just fire the bad apples. Any asshole can do it!
City Hall compounds the problem with voting and confirming the appointed fbi fool to de-police the department.
What will be J-Fed's legacy after he leaves? What can he take credit for? What accomplishments has he or will he make?
Take at look see at his current policies and the directions they are going...nothing stands out?
Except for complete FAILURE.
J-fed no don't will seek employment after his contract is expired. Who would employee this guy? What mayor or city council would hire this guy after what he has done to the CPD? What private company or governmental agency would want this loser?
J-fed hasn't really fired many cops and he hasn't stop crime, in fact, his actions have accelerated crime to 18 % or more.
Is he to blame? Not for everything
but he can turn morale around, he can influence this mayor and the public. If fact, he should start going against the mayor. That would be his best strategy. He's got the contract and nothing to lose. Embarrass this idiot mayor!
Tell the people what the police department needs and ask why City Hall won't provide it!
JFed is nothing more that a puppet for King Rich. Do you really think JFed did this on his own? Richie is using JFed as his henchman and paying him well for it. JFed is crying all the way to the bank and neither of them give a shit about any of us or anyone else in this city for that matter.
In response to 08/24/08, 01:35, although you may have a valid point with your views of the merit promotions, it the understanding and consensus that not all merit promotes that may not score well don't deserve the job. It's tradition on this job that many "working street cops" feel that they won't get a chance for promotion because of either clout or inside personnel who are chosen to be in inside study groups. It’s also a historical fact that some promotes that score high on any list do so because of "inside" influence. Just because someone scored high on a list, doesn’t mean they actually tested well. (REMEMBER THIS.) It was also a fact that the only legit promotion exam that a candidate could take is the detective’s exam. A candidate would receive his/her score before leaving the testing site. But politics ruined it. In my career, I have requested working officers with no political background be merit promoted. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn’t. I have also (in my career) observed several merit promotion excel with respect, not only for the individual who was promoted, but for the officers working for that “white shirt.” I’ve also seen some merit promotions go to people that didn’t deserve it. We have all seen rank order promotions who wind up stripped or locked up, i.e.: Sgt. J. H. from 06 & Sgt. S. S. from 09. And we all know those merit bosses who will swear on a stack of bibles that they were promoted from the list. Listen, if you deserve it, don’t hide it. Be proud you were picked. The only people who are embarrassed are the individuals who didn’t deserve it in the first place but grew up around certain political heads. I love this job a great deal. It took care of my family. I’m also thinking of retiring because of many mitigating facts with this job. I just want you to know that this merit nonsense, which is perceived to be a dirty word, isn’t. Many great detectives and bosses were merit promotions. Give it a chance.
Lets all hope that Aunt Bea gets the next dump . After all she had all that experience with her FIVE brothers and that makes her WELL Qualified to be the # 3 person in the Dept. Hey Blinky , bring me a beer .
Your right! Late on Fridays is when the promotions that included the Birthright children is released. Such as baby Cline and others.
J J is the best! ALLLLLRIGHT!!!
jesse jackson say; since jfed in over his head more black children end up dead, nuff said.
First Deputy Who? Jackson Who?
I thought Dana Starks was still the powerhouse down there.
They are gonna be sorry when Daley yanks Townsend out of the ground and puts him back at 1st Dept.
At the open forum with j fed at Wright college when he was confronted there by P.O.s, he pretty much claimed he was clueless and bosses were making power grabs which he did not agree with/to such as the stripping of officers. He said he would pass an order limiting that power(which he did to his credit). On going theme seems to be he is clueless and getting backstabbed by the mayor and other CPD bosses. Seems like jody needs some friends but being an outsider fed he has nobody. Maybe Fitzgerald can help-nothing like getting a little dirt on the mayor to help your cause.
If you have gotten through the academy, then you have taken many tests..if you are not a good test taker, then you should have never made it through. The tests for promotion have a simple equation: Study for the test, take test. They should not release any tests to ANYONE within the department before it is given, so that the questions cannot be distributed before the actual testing to those people who are screwing bosses, good looking with "assets", or their daddy is friends with the deputy. Merit IS NOT for people who don't test well..merits are for people who bosses and politicians want to make..PERIOD!!
Wake the fuck up and smell the coffee...How hard is it to make a legitimate test. You cannot say a test is racially biased if it is about police work..If you are not studying because you want to get your drink on..then you did not want to score well..if you get your drink on and score in the top ten...well that's ok too.
Whatcolor cape does Sgt Wally wear?
Whoop, there it is!!!!!!!!! There goes all the hardwork, at cocksucking, ass-kissing, backstabbing and poor-mouthing, to get a spot. Some got their spots because of Jackson, lucky they did. But those of you that thought you were inline, well, waaaaaaaaaa!!! The clout babies are crying..... And none of us care. I wish they would go through the list of who JJ made on this job and strip them down to the lowest common rank they received legit........We would be seeing alot of blue shirts, and alot of stripes.
JJ was a NICE guy, but was also swayed by all the bullshit out there. Just look at who he made LT and Capt. You then will see who was sucking and who was blowing. Not a pretty picture.
Will James Jackson have to surrender his take home CPD cruiser?
Lets all hope that Aunt Bea gets the next dump . After all she had all that experience with her FIVE brothers and that makes her WELL Qualified to be the # 3 person in the Dept. Hey Blinky , bring me a beer .
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How come nobody EVER mentions she's married to the Commander of 606!!!
My Loyalties are to Jimmie Jackson and everyone underneath him. I have no loyalties to this SUPERINTENDENT!!! Signed A True Chicago Cop.
Anonymous said...
If you have gotten through the academy, then you have taken many tests..if you are not a good test taker, then you should have never made it through. The tests for promotion have a simple equation: Study for the test, take test.
Hey numbnuts...while people that work in busy districts do well on the tests...the house mouse type always seem to do very well even though they have seemingly little street experience. Between work, court, side jobs, family, a work out, sleep, etc., when are we supposed to study ? This is why the inside people do well. They are afforded the reading time while at work, and the street people are busy doing actual police work. Almost like those who are on a L.O.A. and do very well on a promotional exam and then come back. C'mon, tell me this is legit. So take your study and take the test ideals and shove 'em straight up your cornhole !
RE Meritorious:
I have never been promoted meritoriously. My first promotion was to det., and made it on my own, studied on my own w/out any classes or "mentors", ie. invitation-only study groups, etc.
I took numerous Sgt. exams. Did not attend any study groups, studied on my own w/ the material given. The last exam got a decent score and will be promoted off this list. I have no clout and probably more "vocal" than my friends and co-workers on the dept. I have over 20 years on and want to make it to my 29/+1 day for a full retirement pension. I try NOT to be bitter to those who made it "merit" because of who they know, blow, or patronize. You can pick these people out blind-folded. Most of them are nit-wits, have their "own agenda" (usually not police work), and too scared to make a decision.
I have always wanted to do good in anything I do and have strived to do so on this job and anything I encounter with my life. I have seen this job as a law enforcement officer go down the tubes regarding how we are treated by exempt, by city hall, by civilians and the media. I also wonder why I put my life out on the line every day for this, whether it is interviewing a witness or suspect or making an arrest, there is very little respect from anyone (except from our friends and families) for what we do. In the last 10 years as a dic I have made over 120 felony arrests w/convictions. Every once in awhile I get a call from a victim thanking me. The bosses don't even hand out "honorable mentions" in the dic division. They could care less, but cry when the "numbers are down". At least when Cline was around, he (or his office) would send you a letter thanking you for a job well done and acknowledged you for your work. Haven't seen that for quite a awhile. This dept. has been totally "dummied down". I don't have to get into any of the "dummy-down" issues, it's been addressed on SCC numerous times and then some.
I hope to retire w/ my Sgt's pension and feel for those who have just started or have less than 10 years on because I don't think this job is worth it anymore. I will try to do the best as a supervisor out in patrol since I know, even w/ more than 10 years as a dic, that is where I will be and I am up to the challenge. I haven't forgotten the domestic calls, bs disturbance calls, man w/ a gun call, etc. that keeps patrol hoppin (esp. in the ghetto districts). Not so much as to supervise patrol officers, in fact I think patrol has their act together. I don't blame anyone in patrol to "slow down" or "just answer calls", especially in this climate of media "in-your-face" or 35th st. "in-your-face" or getting involved in some bullshit lawsuit 'cause you are simply doing your job....serving and protecting the citizens of this city.I am up to the challenge w/ exempt and city hall to forge forward and push for what is best for those who work in patrol and detective division. I know this sounds lyrical and mushy, but this is what the dept. is all about....keeping the streets safe for all, clearing up cases legitimately and gaining the respect for police that is so long overdue. They want us to "serve and protect" (on their terms), but there is "no repect". It is just that simple.
O.T., but did anyone watch the Channel 9 news on Thursday night?
I think Allison Payne had a snoot full and she was not present on Friday night.
Dets should just be the ONLY MERIT promoted position on this job. It should be based on the amount of good police work they do in the field. Period.
If you are a house mouse, and have done very limited police field work, you should NOT be eligable for a merit promotion. The det div doesn't need people who ran around for coffee and made phone calls to 35th street for the boss, they need someone who know how to do police work and make arrests.
The supervisors job, sgt and lt., should be a test that is given by an outside vendor w/out an "insider" who knows the test and questions (and who can pass them out to the favored few.) This has always been the downfall of this dept and test taking. Also, merit promotions should not be given to any supervisory position. This is a pure clout-ridden way to promote $$$$, all against the Shakman decree. One reason why this dept. is going to hell. WAAAAYY toooo many merit idiots.
I know a good copper on this job who finished in the top ten percent of one of the most difficult technical schools in the U.S. Air Force, a school with a washout rate of nearly 70 percent. As would be expected when he came on this job he has always finished the FIRST portion of promotional exams (the portion the city has no control over) at or near the top fifty. But for some reason when he takes the second portion of the test(the portion of the test the city CAN control with all of its subjectivity) he turns into a complete moron and does miserably. DON'T FUCKING TELL ME THIS CITY DOESN'T PLAY AROUND WITH THESE TESTS. Just look at How SMART the relatives of bosses are when it comes to promotional exams. It still amazes me how some inbred, drunken Irish fuck who is related to an inbred, drunken Irish fuck can score so well on a test.
NO ONE should be promoted from any inside spot. ALL promotions should come from units that work the streets and do police work. The department would not be in its current state if they promoted this way. But because the department's promotions are blatantly fixed and corrupt we now find ourselves in the FUCKED UP situation we are facing.
DALEY WEARS BIG MOMMA PANTIES..
What the hell is 606?
How about just getting me into "THE STUDY GROUP".
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
If you have gotten through the academy, then you have taken many tests..if you are not a good test taker, then you should have never made it through. The tests for promotion have a simple equation: Study for the test, take test.
Bullshit. How many clouted officers had inside jobs to study for tests. I knew of numerous examples of special persons who had do nothing jobs to study for tests. No calls to answer and court to attend. Just study groups and time to study. Do not dare to compare academy tests for recruits to promotional exams. Remeber, "notify the watch commander"? How easy you forget.
gimme three stars on the collar the pay and the car and I dont care what my responsibilities are or arent
Frankly Id rather have less than more
For over 29 years the only star I got was the one I wore on my chest and the one I wore on my blouse sleeve
Anonymous said...
At the open forum with j fed at Wright college when he was confronted there by P.O.s, he pretty much claimed he was clueless and bosses were making power grabs which he did not agree with/to such as the stripping of officers. He said he would pass an order limiting that power(which he did to his credit).
He also punished those that spoke out against the system. What order limited that power? WTF! Masters and O'Keefe control everything. His credit my ass. Civilians now have the power. He really took care of the working officer on the street.
Ted O'Keefe, who oversees the department's Bureau of Administrative Services, came from 311 as the Director. He has been a long time Daley friend and was a priest at one time, and gave it up to get married.
8/24/2008 06:14:00 AM
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Key phrase: "long time Daley friend". I'm not even getting into the negativities of being an ex- priest 'cause they have been on the radar now for some time.
Okay, what is a civilian ex-priest, a Daley suck-up, doing running a large metro police dept?
Has he ever been in patrol --- the infantry of this dept? (I already know J-Fed doesn't have a clue.) What police skills does he have? Does he know how to answer a domestic call, or how about someone who was just shot? Does he know how to expedite an arrest and what to do when you go to court? Does he know all the paper work involved, who signs what, etc? How about doing a traffic stop? Ever do a 11.501, how about a felony 101? Has he ever interviewed a suspect, given Miranda, etc. Does he know what a detective does? How about all the reports involved? What skills does he have running OEMC and a police dept? How can you have a leader or someone who has the AUTHORITY TO PROMOTE LEADERS (i.e.merit) if he hasn't a clue on what the patrol and det div. does? Did he ever shoot a weapon? Did he ever work midnights? Did he ever take ANY course in Criminal Justice?? Because he is a friend of Daley, he can be second in line in running this dept? This is pathetic.
I didn't know that knowing how to say mass or confession or baptize a baby gives you the authority and knowledge to run a large metro police dept. How can you supervise or become a manager if you never, ever did any of the work of those you are supervising? Can a police officer become a pastor, or better yet a Bishop (w/out any seminary education) and supervise associate priests, deacons, lay people, etc? Can a police officer who never went to the priest academy (i.e. seminary) say mass at Holy Name Cathedral??? Don't think so.
This is f*cking crazy!
This is a prime example on how f*cked-up the Chicago Police Dept. is. Next some ex-nun will be Dep Chief for the CFD and his butcher chief of security for the Olympics.
Daley & Co runs everything and it is not stopping and will continue. We are in BIG trouble folks and if Obama gets in, it will be worse. I hope Kass or better yet Time mag or Newsweek gets ahold of this for the whole nation to get a glimpse of the crazy politics that infests this city.
To 08/24/2008 at 12:25:00 from 8/24/2008 at 1:35 am. (And anyone else listening)I know that I will take some heat for saying this, but I will say it anyway:In my years on the Department, I have seen a few bosses nominate qualified Officers, Detectives, and Sergeants OVER the whims of politicians, former bosses, and current bosses outside of that particular chain of command who, like clockwork upon the announcement of a pending merit nomination process, would be calling the office asking to speak with ___________. I know this happened because I answered those phone calls. I know because the boss I worked for refused to take them. There are a few bosses out there who will submit names on qualifications only and not because so and so from (Insert Your Important Entity Here) asked for it.Although the new leadership has yet to be fully and fairly tested (Yes, I said fairly...because the troops are not working for them compared to historical standards), I also think that each one of them, individually, has a lot MORE to lose if they make a poor nomination. If you are in the position to have a merit selection and nominate a dog, the dog is promoted, and the dog does poorly, that individual promotee will serve as a lasting reminder of the poor decision....and it should.It should have an impact on everyone else that is nominated by that individual.I am not against merit promotions...but it has to change. I suggested the second test idea because it seemed somewhat reasonable. BUT, in truth, it SHOULD BE an open applicant process. It should restrict nominators to only be allowed to nominate subordinates who they have supervised/currently supervise. I know...this is unlikely to happen, but I will continue anyway. The process should allow the guy working a beat car for 15 years to say, "Hey, I have done everything that is asked of me (Mids, acting FTO, crime scenes,), went back to school and earned a degree between my first and second side jobs while raising my kids and I just did not have the time to study hard enough (Scored near the top, but not close enough)...but I bring a hell of a lot of experience and ability to the table" AND "I am going to apply and BELIEVE that I have as good of a chance as anyone to be considered." (This is an example...it does NOT reflect who I am..it is just an example....but a fairly common one)There are far too many qualified people on this job that are bypassed because they never got the chance to present their own abilities...short of taking the test. Maybe they missed a promotion by ten spots on consecutive tests because the lists were taken down. Maybe they had a bad test day. There are a ton of reasons to change this system and VERY few compelling ones to keep it as it is. Adding transparency to this process WILL gain some trust from the workforce.P.S. Until the powers that be change the merit board process, regardless of who is administratively in charge, there are five voting Deputy Superintendents...meaning that whomever is in charge of the merit board is irrelevant...provided their remains an odd number of votes.-STA
..."I’ve also seen some merit promotions go to people that didn’t deserve it. We have all seen rank order promotions who wind up stripped or locked up, i.e.: "...
EXCELENT POINT! Every cop here can rattle off names of a very few that deserved the merit promotion. Every cop here can also rattle off many more that got it and DON’T DESERVE IT! Same goes for positions in units! What happens to the ones that don’t deserve it? Have been and always will be fuck-ups, suck-ups, dog asses and/or dumb asses? Name one time where someone’s stripes/bars have been taken from them because of incompetence? Sure, some of the ones that screw up big time will get dumped out of a unit. But that, as well as how you got into the unit in the first place, is dependent upon how far your call goes.
I, as well as others on this department have no problem with meritorious promotions, if it goes to someone who deserves it! The problem lies when you get someone who doesn’t. Nothing happens to them, or their sponsor. And that’s what a lot of us have a problem with!
I took a huge dump earlier... it looked AND smelled better than this job!!!!
What happened to the post about the American Knights? Did Hollywood threaten to kick your ass? You posted it… at least have the balls to keep it posted!
WOW, another new guy on the payroll when the city is in a hiring free because of the phenomenal budget crunch that came from NOWHERE!!!!
Who woulda thunk????
Lets all hope that Aunt Bea gets the next dump . After all she had all that experience with her FIVE brothers and that makes her WELL Qualified to be the # 3 person in the Dept. Hey Blinky , bring me a beer .
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How come nobody EVER mentions she's married to the Commander of 606!!!
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He was promoted too!!!!
We were provided info that the wrong MC was named, so we removed the mistaken info.
What the hell is 606?
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The commander of 606 is in charge of 1)Financial crimes 2)Fugitive unit and 3) Cold case
Commander Ed O'Donnell got promoted there from being Commander of the Bomb & Arson unit.
Nice guy, but people I know who work there say he's in over his head.
He's Bea's husband....what a surprise, they BOTH got promoteed by J-Fed!!!!
$168,000 + $153,000 = dam they make a lot of money! And what do they do to earn it? Who is the clout for them? Hello eddie burke!
"No no I told you use the bigger envelope"!
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If you have gotten through the academy, then you have taken many tests..if you are not a good test taker, then you should have never made it through. The tests for promotion have a simple equation: Study for the test, take test.
Bullshit. How many clouted officers had inside jobs to study for tests. I knew of numerous examples of special persons who had do nothing jobs to study for tests. No calls to answer and court to attend. Just study groups and time to study. Do not dare to compare academy tests for recruits to promotional exams. Remeber, "notify the watch commander"? How easy you forget.
8/24/2008 11:27:00 PM
How about in the early 90's when 8 tact officers from 008 on the same team went to "special study classes" on the company then all passed the sgts test all were promoted, and even richie scoot who is now lt, was promoted with that crew! who was that clout?
I took a huge dump earlier... it looked AND smelled better than this job!!!!
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Please!!!! TMI!!!!
Hey, over 20 and tired:
Hope you get in on one of the upcoming sgt classes. I've known cops like you and you're definitely needed as a sgt. Hang in there, brother.
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Will James Jackson have to surrender his take home CPD cruiser?
8/24/2008 09:13:00 PM
No idea Mr. Citizen. Why don't you call your Mayor and find out for us.
We were provided info that the wrong MC was named, so we removed the mistaken info.
8/25/2008 06:14:00 AM
Name the correct club...
Fuck Jackson.
This is a guy that suspended Farrell.....TWICE.
Mumblin' prick.
I hear ya. Every promotion test there are sergeants in units who sit and study all day, right there in the office in front of everybody and nobody says shit. Once in a while they take a walk and do the rounds with a cup of coffee in one hand and a piece of paper in the other talkin about how busy they are.
Meanwhile other sergeants are doing the job that it takes to be a lt, and they have no time to study and no time to schmooze up to the bosses. The only reward they get for doing good work is more work.
I hate this department. It continually makes the good workers become non workers.
Come on Mayor Daley. If you want to civilianize the whole department, then do it. I would love to stop running through allies and chasing criminals, sweating to death because the vest, the belt and the shoes are all not conducive for any outdoor rigorous activity. Why don't you give that job to Ted O'Keefe, huh, redesign these freaking uniforms for the working police. The dope boys have us beat with clothes alone.
Why is every major police decision being made by the non police. Then you ask why morale is down and tactics are failing? Incompetent/Inexperienced Exempt, non-police Bosses and Chief of Staff, must I go on? Yes, I agree the First Deputy is not competent nor is his staff. He has 5 sergeants that do nothing, a Commander, 9 office people and 2 stupid and very scary looking vindictive and unintelligent secretaries. The scarytaries got a Lieutenant and a Sergeant dumped in his first quarter as First Deputy. What kind of message does that send, huh? And, how come they are never on any details? We all are. I have seen one staff member directly from the First Deputy's office on a detail this whole summer. I was at every one because of my seniority, so I know. Just pull the order. How about the Superintendent's office also? How come his office staff are never out there? Yeah right Jfed, you are really supporting the troops!
Well, tell me again SCC, what does the First Deputy do? At least Starks had CAPS which made him the Mayor's right hand. Can JJ even speak well enough to do CAPS, nope. Does he look like JJ from that TV show about the projects? Yep What's the name of it?
I love the comment from anonymous who says Jackson probably can't "wright." Look who is talking. What a goof.I worked for Jackson and he played fair no matter what color or gender. I am a white supervisor who had never met him before I worked for him
J-Fed should look at some of those downtown bosses(from Patrol Division,Detective Division) who spend city time sending racist,sexist emails. Have you seen them? Unbelievable. Wouldn't the citizens love to see what our bosses are doing?
8/25/2008 04:34:00 PM
so true...what's wrong with them
What happened to the post about the American Knights? Did Hollywood threaten to kick your ass? You posted it… at least have the balls to keep it posted!
8/25/2008 01:42:00 AM
well, since no one knows who SCC is and since the AKMC are a bunch of smelly girls I dont think even a threat from "hollywood" is going to scare SCC sorry ladies
7:50 AM
It was Molloy. If you can't figure that out. Even Mutt got promoted and he can't read.
The Daley Machine definately is pulling Obama's strings, so all you folks out there, if you don't want your state-country to turn into Shitcago-Crook County, better think before voting DemocRAT.
I hope everyone out there doesn't buy the load of crap the Obama's are feeding the public out there . They keep saying that they know how it is to work hard for what you have. They both keep saying how they worked their way up to where they are.......
wait a minute - you are both products of the cook county/ chicago - machine. It's documented.
All of the jobs that they have both held ...none is one that the average joe could walk into a place - fill out the job application - drop it off with a resume....and expect to get hired. No sir. No maam. All of the jobs are phone call required jobs. I challenge anyone to dispute this.
they're for change...yeah right.
Now Emil Jones' plan is being revealed. If obama becomes president - blago gets to chose his replacement...enter emil jones who just so happens to be retiring soon. hmmmmmmmm ....the gov's best ally , needs a new job with a new pension. yup - crook county's alumni - going national.
I figure you gotta blame somebody and he was set up as the "scapegoat" when put there in the first place he just didn' know it!
If all was well he would have been left alone........
Go to the WELL.....
and keep going to the well there is more patsies and scapegoats to put there and get rid of when they make you look bad.....it just business!
The new Chicago way!
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