Friday, October 17, 2008

Addition By Subtraction?

What the...?!!!
  • In the Police Department, the elimination of detention aides may mean increased officer time in the district lockup facilities. But with the addition of 21 new sergeants, deployment on the streets should be improved. There will be civilian layoffs relating to data entry but those efforts will be supplemented with an existing city contract, so there will be no impact on public safety.
That's from the City's own press release. Let's just dissect that paragraph a little bit:
  • elimination of detention aides - that means upwards of 50 or more police officers off the streets on all three watches. Officer safety necessitates a minimum staffing of District lockups. Some Districts run with one PO and two DAs, others one PO and one DA. Area lockups have male and female DAs. Central Detention is a whole other combination of POs and DAs;
  • increased officer time in the district lockup facilities - no shit. And that means less officer time on the streets, where they really ought to be;
  • the addition of 21 new sergeants, deployment on the streets should be improved - um...how? that's at least 21 less officers on the street;
  • civilian layoffs relating to data entry - is this the contact card debacle? Because we're getting all sorts of stories about entire Tactical teams being held down to enter their contact cards already and two extra officers being added to the desk crews who's sole purpose is to enter contact cards that are months old...the contact cards that are supposed to be purged after 90 days or so.
And then the "promise" of 200 hires next year:
  • Of the 1,346 vacant jobs that Daley plans to eliminate, none are sworn police officers. But Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue called that a “shell game.”

    That’s because Daley is counting on saving $10 million by slowing police hiring to a crawl — with only 200 officers hired during all of 2009.

    With 450 sworn vacancies by Dec. 31, and an annual attrition rate of 600, Chicago could be “down 850 police officers by the end of 2009,” Donahue said.

And that's not even counting the possibility of a Detective promotion class or something larger than 21 Sergeants that will short every arm of the Department another few bodies. Even Ike Carothers sees a problem:
  • “There’s going to be less police on the street. No doubt about it….Crime is going up every day. It’ll have an impact. No doubt about it,” Carothers said.
It certainly will.

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103 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHO CARES???????????????

10/17/2008 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey hey hey... only the lowest of the barrel do contact cards...CADETS!!These kids are suppose to learn about the deparment, but all they will learn during the program is nepotism(SGT-Cadet),kissing ass, and the meaning of carpal tunnel.The program is a joke and it has nothing to do with the actual cadets. Seeing that detention aids are going, i hope you kids dont get the axe.

10/17/2008 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fire the cadets. you will save around 5,000 a year by doing that HAHAHAHAHA


Signed,

Angry Cadet

10/17/2008 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And, Ike, let's not forget about the 15 November surge of retirements to beat the COLA deadline.

And then add in the retirements when this reorganization comes into play and a bunch of people retire rather than having to go back to real jobs.

I'd add a hundred to that retirement estimate.

10/17/2008 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I noticed that in this budget that incldes every job in the police department, the "Marine Helicopter Unit has 51 assigned personnel. There is 1 Lt., 6 Sgts., 1 P/O and the rest are Marine Officers. I'm afraid that doesn't add up at all.
I couldn't find any mention of our $103,500 a year civilian helicopter pilot, no mention of his secretary, take home car or expenses that are quite considerable every year.
I couldn't find the P/O's assigned to the helicopter or their Sgt's. I couldn't find any mention of anything to do with the most expensive unit in the department. We are talking millions of dollars here but no mention at all in the budget.
The only people mentioned in the budget are the Marine officers assigned to the boats. Where are the others?? It's simple really....they are detailed in from districts in the Patrol Division....but that still doesn't explain where the civilian helicopter pilot gets his wages from. If he is not in the department budget, then he is not a memeber of the department...right??

10/17/2008 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

seems to me that a reduction in CPD budgetary operations and funding could be tied into the election of President Barack Hussein Obama, and the inevitable development of the USA into a kinder and more gentle nation....so, in that spirit, I propose that, after President Obama is sworn in, all CPD traffic, parking, and ordinance enforcement cease...what better way to honor the new President than to celebrate with the citizenry, and embrace a new tolerance for traffic and ordinance violations...Che Guevara and Bill Ayers would be proud!...

10/17/2008 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yup, eliminate detention aides who make half the salary and have fewer paid benefits, then replace them with full-duty patrol officers at a time when patrol is desperate for bodies.

Dumb. And dumber.

10/17/2008 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic, but pertinant:

Emailed my former partner who is a KMA LT regarding the fact that the 2 days following the election will be my RDO's...

The reply came like this- Dont make any plans. Win or Lose the city has plans that will cancel D.O.G. 6/7/1 on the 5th and 5th of November in reaction to the expected social unrest.

Maybe the poster who states repeatedly about the coming riots if/when B.O. is defeated by McCain actually has heard the same thing I have today?

Signed:
Witness to the birth of the USSA
(United Socialist States of America)

10/17/2008 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ghetto math?

10/17/2008 01:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think what Ed Smiff should of said was Lt.'s not Sgt.'s. Watch and see it is not going to be Sgt.'s, they already have the merit picks on JFraud's desk. You can guarantee it.

10/17/2008 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, I have a question that's been bothering me. What happened to the Supervisors and police that are or were assigned to the "Behavioral Alert" part of the story. You know the one's that said "sorry,but this is just my part of the job"? And at the same time scared the hell out of you. The same that signed the notice that you were placed in the behavior alert status and stated that you had an appointment with them. Are they still hiding in HQ? The officers that were placed in this status then miraculously released might want to know. Is that one of the units that might see the chopping block? That is a useless unit.

10/17/2008 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dammit what about the clown?

10/17/2008 01:19:00 AM  
Blogger COMMANDANT KLINK said...

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Yes we are going to get some PPO's. At last we can start that offensive against the Elote dealers.



For you new PPO's some information.

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Bring your ANOV'S and a new pen to STALAG 017
we must lead the AREA in a statistic other than event numbers.

10/17/2008 01:20:00 AM  
Blogger COMMANDANT KLINK said...

Achtung ! SGT SCHULTS here !

But with the addition of 21 new sergeants, deployment on the streets should be improved.

GENERAL WEASEL has given me new orders for the street.
I have only one thing to say.
" I SEE NOTHING "

10/17/2008 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous mark d. said...

it's crazy when you cannot hire any new police recruits. the reason being is that they need to find a place to hide the ads at the academy. it is very hard at this moment because of all the budget problems and lawsuits that were brought against him. he started many problems through the department that made everybody look bad. but remember in the police department when they want to get rid of you they will promote you, because they know you will screw up and even the mayor can't help you.

10/17/2008 01:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Thank You

10/17/2008 01:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not sure when they made the last Sgts. class but I know the last time they formed a class of Dets. was in Dec 2007
No Dets. made this fiscal year of 2008. I know they are down, as is patrol,Sgts, etc, but don't you think they need a few more to help with the clearance rate?? Any word on a class to be made anytime soon?? We need help in the Det. Division.
S.O.S.

10/17/2008 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like a big-time Vegas show...smoke and mirrors. Maybe we can call Richey and J-Fed the new Sigfried and Roy.

10/17/2008 02:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pretty sure our knuckle head mayor ment 21 Lts.

10/17/2008 02:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW, Mayor shortshanks is lying to us? That's never happened before!

10/17/2008 02:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what!!!

I got my curfew mission numbers the Commander wants since he is going up the ladder without me!

The potential riots can be the turning point of the milenium for history!

I do not dare comment on why there may be Riots though one can only wonder but the reason is not important. It is the AFTERMATH or the fallout and reprucussion(sp) from HOW we the "ACTIVE" and "DETAILED" "ASSIGNED" P/O's handle all the CIVIL UNREST here in the fine City of Chicago!

When the SHITSTORM HITS and history of what is to BE rocks this city, country and world........WHERE WILL YOU BE?

GETTING CONTACT CARDS?

10/17/2008 02:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't frickin' get it. Absolutely unbelievable! Short shanks will work his smoke and mirrors to protect his image and his cronies all at the price of public and officer safety.

And what is wrong with the citizens and the media? Did they fail math in school?

This plan of reducing detention aides will not help the quality of life in the least bit, but it attempts to protect short shanks false imagine that he knows what he is doing in addressing budget issues.

This goof has been playing his shell game for a long time and still the citizens and the media agree to play his game. What will it take for someone to expose this idiot we call mayor?

Nearly half a billion dollars for a downtown park that was originally suppose to cost about $171 million and only fleeting grunts and groans. Over budget block 37. Hired trucks. The list goes on. Still he is seen as a guru! If he were a CEO, his ass would have been gone years ago. I am sure his latest move with the DA's will be trumpeted by the unknowing and the ignorant.

10/17/2008 02:53:00 AM  
Blogger Detective ShavedLongcock said...

I have a funny feeling that this is going to get a hell of a lot worse before it ever gets better.

The amount of money that this city went through with Mayor Daley at the helm is unbelievable. Waste, fraud, graft, greed, kickbacks, over priced contracts, bribes, over runs.... We may never be able to bail this city out.

It was never the fact that not enough money was being generated, it was the fact that there was never a limit placed on how much could be stolen.

Not sure how true this statement is or not but my father (also was a cop) use to say, Old Man Daley stole a lot but only after everything for this city was taken care of. The new Daley never took it off the bottom, his cut was always first.

10/17/2008 04:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, addition by subtraction. That's that "new math" thing. You never heard of it?

10/17/2008 05:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will someone PLEASE issue a press release or something detailing how the budget changes will affect public safety? We simply have too much to lose with this "maybe they won't notice" or "let's see how it all works out" approach the Mayor is taking. Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that the mayor was promising to work through a way to get more officers on the street???

I am paying more property taxes, more sales taxes, and having to pony up for various legal funds in order to stop this mayor from just doing whatever he wants whenever he wants to with no regard for the voters. Chicago is the third largest city in the country and we must take public safety seriously.

A citizen

PS: Thanks to all who go to work each day putting the average citizen's public safety first and foremost in their minds each day.

10/17/2008 05:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But with the addition of 21 new sergeants, deployment on the streets should be improved."

The $5 million spent on PR firms is apparently used for Orwellian double-speak. If you read this carefully, they are absolutely correct, "deployment on the the streets SHOULD [not WILL] be improved."

10/17/2008 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put snowplows on the wagons. This will help save some cash.

10/17/2008 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No more Pasta Joe cooking all damn night in 008? AWW that will hurt the bellies of some

10/17/2008 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Seeing that detention aids are going, i hope you kids dont get the axe.

10/17/2008 12:20:00 AM"

They never should have started that program to begin with. The kicker the likes of Cline,Maurer& Tommy the Thumb Byrne actually had their Cadet Time made pensionable. WTF?
Silly Ass Hats& 1/2Moon Badges what a joke, Good Riddance.

10/17/2008 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its called "Trickle up poverty" its Barack Hussein's idea it also works in policing.

10/17/2008 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You Tact Clowns are really itching to wear those Stormtrooper Uniforms you had to dump 2 Grand on so you fabricate some fantasy post-election Civil Unrest Scenario.

Halloween is two weeks away wear it for the Kiddies who come trick or treating to your House, I'm sure they'll appreciate your effort!!

10/17/2008 08:24:00 AM  
Blogger Ink Bomb said...

Anonymous said...
Will someone PLEASE issue a press release or something detailing how the budget changes will affect public safety? We simply have too much to lose with this "maybe they won't notice" or "let's see how it all works out" approach the Mayor is taking. Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that the mayor was promising to work through a way to get more officers on the street???

I am paying more property taxes, more sales taxes, and having to pony up for various legal funds in order to stop this mayor from just doing whatever he wants whenever he wants to with no regard for the voters. Chicago is the third largest city in the country and we must take public safety seriously.

A citizen

PS: Thanks to all who go to work each day putting the average citizen's public safety first and foremost in their minds each day.

10/17/2008 05:59:00 AM

We'll all be told more lies and police will continue to be stretched to the limit trying to do more with less under the most adverse conditions anyone living has ever seen. Anything ranging from honest, dilligent work to inadvertent blunders that lead to good fortune or success will be attributed to some hocus pocus plan concocted by city hall in an effort to make Daley look brilliant.

Depleting city services further with layoffs, hiring freezes and elimination of mounting vacancies while crime continues to rise. This is the answer to a massive budget deficit that should never have existed in the first place? The livelihood and safety of Chicago citizens hinges on little more than a PR campaign.

PS: You're welcome.

10/17/2008 08:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Det. Division in 2008 had more Det's retire then get promoted to DET.. Yes the clearance rate sucks (Especially A/2 ) what is really sad is that with so many det's having overflowing case logs there is no time for any type of investigation. Det work has become a joke of shuffling paperwork and trying to make phone calls actually getting out and talking to people is impossible.

10/17/2008 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

21 new sgt's shit we have an acting desk sgt everyday in my district and just one or 2 sgts on the street at any time. At least it cuts down on all the stupid missions.

10/17/2008 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I care, this is my life and yours you idiot!!!

Mayor Daley, suck it up, cut your losses and allow us to move on! You made a mistake. I will bet you a year's salary that crime will continue to rise, morale will continue to be low and our department won't be any fucking better dealing with this bullshit that Ted O'Keefe is actually running same time next year!

You know you picked the worst First Deputy in HISTORY!!! His staff takes incompetent to another level!! Also, what's with the fucking RED "Do Not Enter" and "Restricted Area" signs. How the fuck do you make an outside office area off limits to CPD staff? You are a bunch of arrogant worthless piece of shit's gloating as if you had something worth being a part of. Oh yeah, be proud, you contributed to the worst regime in history! The MAYOR's office or the Superintendent's Office does not even have that Bullshit up! You are not that important!

DR (or is it Mr. DR), CJ (I need a new wig), Sgt. RW, Sgt JE, (fuck, how may sergeants and P.O.'s work in that office? Jfed start there) Teddy, the weird girl from 011, I forgot her name, Tippy or some shit like that, Lt. Liace must I go on?

Why did the First create a street program that his staff does not participate in? Have you seen his secretaries or his direct Sergeants at this bullshit? Hell no! Jfed, you really knew what you were doing. I love what you are doing for our department, the officers, the city and the people in the community! SIKE!

10/17/2008 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Keesing Bandt says---

I really miss Sigfried and Roy. They always looked hot with those white tigers.

Now, kees me you fool!!!

10/17/2008 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the 75 extra officers JFed was supposed to be asking for? Are they included in the 200 proposed for next year?

10/17/2008 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is the real sad story. Fran Spielman should write about this angle, but she won't because of being concerned about riling King Richard.

The data entry people, Senior Data Entry Operators (SDEO's)and Data Entry Operators (DEO's), at the Chicago Police Department make miniscule wages. They make just above poverty level, around $28,000.00 a year. It is sad that every time Shortshanks needs to preserve his bloated protection detail or the obscene service contracts of his family members, the first place he hits for layoffs is the lowest of our wage earners, the SDEO's and the DEO's. And the oddest thing is that the work normally performed by the SDEO's and DEO's does not magically disappear, so higher-paid police officers will have to do the work of the SDEO's and the DEO's. It just does not make sense. What is the benefit?

On the other hand, Shortshanks has a bloated detail of highly paid personnel to drive him around. Two unnecessary Commanders making #130,000.00 a year each and both with take home cars plus 40 police officers making D3 wages plus overtime making $90,000.00 a year. Why does King Richard need all of these politically connected policemen, like pos Police Officer appointed Commander Sam Roti, to run his errands and drive him around. If he must have a detail, why not two teams of one Sergeant and 10 Police Officers and keeping the same schedule of opposite alternating one day on, one day off, throughout the year. Even that number of personnel is still obscene, but it would be an improvment over the number of personnel currently assigned to protect King Richard.

If King Richard were to do the right thing and cut his detail as suggested, the reassigned police personnel will not lose their jobs, they will go back to fill in existing vacancies where they are needed. I will not say they will go to patrol because they are politically connected and will be saved from the "ultimate insult" of having to go to patrol, but still in all, King Richard could save a load of little people from losing their jobs. That will NEVER happen.

Keep voting Democratic for the change you are going to get, and you will continue to get it hard and good!

Southside 19-Paul

10/17/2008 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are up against the best con artists on the 5th floor Chicago has ever seen! These people could pass a lie detector test without going over 120/80! They truly do not care if any of us get injured or killed by their refusal to hire more officers. They just keep rolling the dice hoping nothing will happen. Power and Greed is at the top of their list! Use your heads and do only what is necessary during your tour.

10/17/2008 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Animal abuse team officers all have take home cars ???? That could save some $$$$$ There is no reason for that at all . They never had take home cars before

10/17/2008 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

21 Sergeants on the street. . .BUT, they are making a new spot in the areas for an AREA C.A.P.S. LT. Since each district will not have a CAPS Lt. they are putting a 2nd Sergeant in the CAPS office.. . .doesn't that come out to loosing 4 sergeants off the street city wide? Why can't they get rid of district managers? CLOUT SPOTS
Sorry I wasn't thinking the aldermen would then have to make up a new spot to payoff their friends.

LAST does anyone remember when State Attorney Daley was running as a spoiler in the mayor election? He said that the city didn't need 50 aldermen and they should be cut to 25. . . what happened?

10/17/2008 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the poster who states repeatedly about the coming riots if/when B.O. is defeated by McCain actually has heard the same thing I have today?
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I don't have any special knowledge. However, a few things make me wonder if it is not possible, even likely.

1. The US army is putting an entire brigade on domestic duty for "homeland security" functions. It will be operational in a few weeks. It has been training extensively in riot control techniques recently. You think there might be a reason for this?

2. The state is talking about having the NG and ISP come to Chicago to help out with the high crime rate. Could this be a feeler to deploying both for riot duty in Chicago near election time? This way they can say it was always planned, and has nothing to do with the election, but have the troops available to watch the fires and contain them to appropriate areas.

3. A lot of riots have started over lesser things than a hotly contested election, often over trivial things like football or basketball games.

10/17/2008 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
hey hey hey... only the lowest of the barrel do contact cards...CADETS!!These kids are suppose to learn about the deparment, but all they will learn during the program is nepotism(SGT-Cadet),kissing ass, and the meaning of carpal tunnel.The program is a joke and it has nothing to do with the actual cadets. Seeing that detention aids are going, i hope you kids dont get the axe.

10/17/2008 12:20:00 AM

Cadet program is run by Mauer's former gofer and driver, little mikey s. He treats the cadets very poorly, like his slaves. Cadets are so far removed from actual police operations that the program is a joke. Some cadets are over 21 years old and have not taken the entrance exam. With a two year processing for new hires, they will be 25 years old before they are hired. Imagine, 25 years old, working part time for $9.00a hour as a file clerk. Only in Chicago. Cadet program a complete joke and FTO program destroyed. Yet, morale is good.

10/17/2008 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For every detention aide laid off, a sworn will replace them. You must have two persons to proecess prisoners. On paper, a officer is assigned to a foot route yet the same officer is kept inside as a lockup keeper. The shell game. Can the press be that ignorant? Even Donahue acknowledges the shell game. Why doesn't the FOP newsletter show the retirement list monthly? Suddenly it is a secret?

10/17/2008 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is time to negotiate in our new contract that we can retire with 25 years at age 50 with 75%. It only makes sense to do this. The Mayor can put three new PO's on the street at the same cost he is paying someone with 25 years on the job. The average PO with 25 years is costing the City big $$$. Why not give us the option to retire at age 50+ with 25 years at 75%? It would save money and make alot of people happy on this job.

10/17/2008 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I can say is if we are hurting so bad why do the alderscum get such a nice cost of living pay raise. And mind you this was not a raise for the job this was merely a cost of living adjustment. I am so fed up with this city i can't wait to get out of here.

10/17/2008 10:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HOW MUCH WILL THEY SAVE BY ELIMINATING THE DISTRICT MANAGERS???????????

KEEP THE DETENTION AIDES, ELIMINATE THE MANAGERS; KEEP THE OFFICERS ON THE STREET!!!!

10/17/2008 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Screw said...

Anonymous said...

WHO CARES???????????????

10/17/2008 12:15:00 AM
__________________________

I do, asshole. I'm sorry some civilian pissed in your cereal but we're not all dogs. I have a family to support just like you. You are lucky to have the job you do, because in my experience without that badge some of you would not be fit to stack peach cans at Dominick's.

SCC is spot on about the issue; a PO for every aide.

Aides get less salary (about 15k less in base), no overtime, no IOD (only workman's comp), no medical (only sick days), less uniform allowance (500), less training and have less liability.

I believe there are about 238 of us (men and women) spread throughout the districts, central detention and the juvenile center. Central has 24 and juvenile has 9, the rest are in the districts. 1 to 2 POs off the street per watch, per district, including those with female lockups, plus central D and JIC.

The other problem will be getting POs to work it. I'm not knocking you guys, but there are some POs that should not and some that will not. Need I mention what happens when POs get put into positions they don't like? Also, if there are problems getting POs to work it, they'll run it short which adds to officer safety issues.

To sum it up: one PO for every aide = higher paid POs off the street in addition to a possible increase in medical and IOD.

It's a numbers game... like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Damn those numbers look good, but the ship is still sinking! SCC mentions the retirees, which is an issue, but those numbers for patrol do not equal the number of officers on the street taking jobs.

For those of you that don't know how the game works, there are dozens of specialized teams that siphon POs from the watch. Not to mention CAPS, traffic and park cars that don't take jobs. This only leaves a handful of 99 cars that have jobs stacked up on them from the start of the tour. I suggest that one of you "journalists" listen to a police scanner and count the number of jobs that get stacked on a car coming up from roll call. Or the number of jobs that a car blows off because they're down on a TVB (the new cameras only adding to the down time, but that's another issue). Daley promises more officers, but from where, and to where are the real questions.

I contacted someone at SEIU73 and they believe the mayor is threatening layoffs to get the unpaid furlough days accepted. Daley wants 4 days per year for 4 years. Of course to stave layoffs the unions will agree, but how many days will Ali-Mayor and his 50 theives be taking?

I'm not getting my hopes up about keeping my job so I've started to look around.

My father and uncles were POs and my family has a long history with the city. I can't even express to you guys how much this saddens me and how much it hurts to get chased out of my own city.

I hope God lets old man Daley come down to hell to kick his son's ass.

10/17/2008 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will someone PLEASE issue a press release or something detailing how the budget changes will affect public safety?


Dear Citizen,

No, they won't. It's up to all of us as citizens (even though we have fewer rights as police officers than you do) to vote this thief out of office.

10/17/2008 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch the smoke and mirrors! If there are no recruits to train, why maintain a building designed to do that? Daley will sell the property through the verizon "friend and family" plan and pocket the large price that the land on Jackson street will bring.

10/17/2008 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous The Evil Clown said...

If you subtract a negative number from a positive number you are in effect doing addition by subtraction. It is quite possible.

10/17/2008 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One thing we should all do, and I am in the KMA Club, is tell people the truth. We can't handle your (silly ass or not) problem because we don't have the manpower; not that we don't care, we just cannot handle every little blip on the radar.

Was it Mark Twain that said, "Always tell the truth, it will please most people and astonish the rest."

In Chicago it might read, "...outrage the rest."

If everyone who works the street tells the truth, no amount of lies from 35th Street or City Hall can overcome that. We should join the KMA Club, they can’t replace all of us.

Stay safe, tell the truth to the citizens, and vote Republican to cut the slats from under Richie.

10/17/2008 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

remember, figures don't lie, but liars figure. i have been getting an earful lately from people who r waiting for police service. i have even gone as far as to show vic's pdt screen to prove that i made a timely response to the assignment and that dispatch held the call due to backlog. believe me, i am not bashing the dispatchers, they are backed against the wall to. don't sugar coat things, tell people the truth.

10/17/2008 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

carouthers talks a good game, but when daley has a news conference there is old ike satnding behind the mayor eyes clothes just to be on tv! Hey ike lucky you promoted your brother before the dumps of the useless are sent back where they belong right brother? Great job, now we will have more "house mice" but oh well we are doing shit on the street anymore! How is the new unit jump out or whatever doing? You have to be out of your mind to join something like this you put your family,job,career,pension out to pasture first time you fuck up! But then again skullsfull of mush listen to whatever the lying brass tell them ala sos! when is tobais going to be indicted??

10/17/2008 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The amount of money that this city went through with Mayor Daley at the helm is unbelievable. Waste, fraud, graft, greed, kickbacks, over priced contracts, bribes, over runs.... We may never be able to bail this city out."

To get a better understanding of how the City of Chicago operates watch the movie "Casino". It correlates perfectly & it being about the Outfit makes it all the more relevant.
Anyone who thinks the MOB is dead in Chicago is a fool.
How about those TIF's??

10/17/2008 03:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we should be budgeted for 16,000 officers, not the 13,500 that we are currently budgeted which we really don't have. we do if you ask Daley or J-Fed which is a total bullshit lie.

it's a warzone out there. officers are getting murdered and shot at let and right. get with the times already. hire more police and take back this city already before another officer God forbit gets hurt or killed.

10/17/2008 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Tribune endorsed Obama. Amazing. To all of you Obama haters, at least he'll send a bunch of Federal dollars this way, which after the Mayor gets his cut, will put more bodies on the street.

10/17/2008 03:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where's Colonel Hogan?!

Too funny!

10/17/2008 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The difference between Cook Co. and DuPage Co. This is regards to the "Hate Crime" that a Elmhurst College student fabricated.

"But late Friday afternoon, Elmhurst police announced that a weeklong investigation determined the assault never occurred,there was no gunman and Jilani was arrested on a warrant for filing a false police report, a Class 4 felony punishable by up to 3 years in prison."

Cook Co., Disorderly Conduct, misdemeanor charge of course, and then MSSOL at the branch court.

10/17/2008 04:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just watching some cable news...Obama way ahead of McCain according to some. Thinking of a new slogan for America after Obama gets elected, "USSA"...United Socialist States of America...maybe there's some marketing opportunities here, I mean, caps, shirts, new US flags, new emblems for our Olympic athlets, etc., etc., all with the letters USSA on them.... time to get in the market early with these items? (keeping in mind that most of any profits will be seized by Obama in order to redistribute the wealth)...

10/17/2008 04:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One quick question...how many of you that blog here plan on quitting within the next year? Please..your pissing and moaning is creating a Depends shortage at Walgreens and CVS.

10/17/2008 04:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if they are hiring 200 in 2009 when do you think they will start up the first clas of 2009?

10/17/2008 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe when the riots come the greasy slimy looking mayor will order us to shoot to kill...Let the games begin

10/17/2008 05:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's called privatizing like he is doing with everything else in this city.

10/17/2008 05:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aw hell, why not just get rid of everybody. Privatize the police department. Sell it to a security firm. Instead of police the city can use armed security guards with 40 hours of training. Get rid of the fire department personnel. We can use a volunteer fire department like in some of the smaller towns. Get rid of streets and sanitation. You have to bring your own trash to a landfill. Get rid of the mayor and city government. We can hire a part-time mayor (just like the one we have now) and save that salary. Fire every alderman. We can form block clubs and vote a spokesman for town meetings. We can all pay our block club a monthly fee to keep up streets, alleys and street lights from private companies. Hell we don't even need any police service. Everybody carries a gun and just handles there own problems. No more prisoners, if they try to rob you, break into your house or steal your car, just shoot and kill them. Then less stress on the jails and courts. Either that or vote Mayor shortshanks out of office and vote in someone who leaves some money for the city and not put it all in their pocket and the pockets of their cronies. Why in the hell did he get voted in anyway. A Mayor who had to take the Bar exam 25 times before he passed. And he probably paid someone the last time he took it to pass.

10/17/2008 06:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoa!
Wait a minute . . .
Let's add the elimination of 350-500 Limited Duty Officers that the Department wants to cut.

10/17/2008 06:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

****Annoucement***********

I am the great jimmy carroll, I will be back and restore the airports now on donny, on timmy, on roy to eBay we go!

10/17/2008 07:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about stop hiring "connected" police retirees into newly created "civilian" positions.

How about dumping all district managers. That will save more money than dumping some data entry clerk.

10/17/2008 07:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasn't Carother's brother merit promoted - twice???

10/17/2008 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are getting rid of the civilians making the least amount of money and keeping the District managers who are double dipping. Most of them maxed out on this job and got made District Managers, so on top of their full pension they are bringing home another 70,000 a year. But lets get rid of the people who really need to work!?!?!?! the mayor and the supt are the best!!

10/17/2008 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KEEP THE DETENTION AIDES, ELIMINATE THE MANAGERS

i agree.

10/17/2008 07:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One quick question...how many of you that blog here plan on quitting within the next year? Please..your pissing and moaning is creating a Depends shortage at Walgreens and CVS.
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Now that is some funny shit!

10/17/2008 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"One quick question...how many of you that blog here plan on quitting within the next year? Please..your pissing and moaning is creating a Depends shortage at Walgreens and CVS.

10/17/2008 04:37:00 PM"


Having a hard time finding the products that you need?

10/17/2008 08:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have some good detention aides. I hope that they are not axed. Yancey can go, but there are some good ones who work the lockup well.

10/17/2008 08:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if they are hiring 200 in 2009 when do you think they will start up the first clas of 2009?

With CPD processing it will easily be a year to a year and a half for hiring to begin

10/17/2008 09:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One thing we should all do, and I am in the KMA Club, is tell people the truth. We can't handle your (silly ass or not) problem because we don't have the manpower; not that we don't care, we just cannot handle every little blip on the radar.
-----------------------

I always tell the truth. I have nothing to gain by lying. I even show the public the condition of my car, let them see the interior, the odometer with 140K on it. Let them know the truth. I tell them I am the only car up in a six square mile area. And I often am.

10/17/2008 09:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Addition by subtraction, this shit has been going on for years. Police Aides for example, supposed to put officers back on the street. It did. then, in a "cost saving" (?) move they reversed the course 10 years later and got rid of Police Aides. This "saved" the salary of Police Aide and took a police officer making twice as much off the street.

Same with detention aide. The only good thing, I might then be able to bid for a lockup spot and retire out of there!

There used to be a PO in the area doing sorting, filing, separating reports, answering phones etc. They shagged the PO's back to districts. Many retired. Result was that the stuff they did at first just piled up. Then they found a detective to do it.

Real smart. The people who runs this department are about the dumbest fools on the planet. It is a good time to be a smart criminal. Even the low lifes who make a living sawing off catalytic convertors have very little risk of getting caught.

So if one has their heart into larceny, they can really clean up in Chicago, there is no one with any real plan to stop them. Have at it.

10/17/2008 09:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just watching some cable news...Obama way ahead of McCain according to some. Thinking of a new slogan for America after Obama gets elected, "USSA"...United Socialist States of America...maybe there's some marketing opportunities here, I mean, caps, shirts, new US flags, new emblems for our Olympic athlets, etc., etc., all with the letters USSA on them.... time to get in the market early with these items? (keeping in mind that most of any profits will be seized by Obama in order to redistribute the wealth)...

10/17/2008 04:22:00 PM

You must have been on cnn or one of the networks, the liberals are trying to convince everyone that the race is over already so conservatives won't bother to vote, don't buy it...

10/17/2008 09:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Screw said...

I heard from the union today that D/As will not be laid off.

Maybe they came to their senses... but I don't have that much faith.

I'll believe it when I see it.

10/17/2008 09:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's a cadet that won't get eliminated if he is anything like his Sgt. father AKA LAPA Man of the Year. The tradition will carry on with his LAPA clout and maybe make daddy proud and be a "LAPA Cadet" of the year. When will it end.......

10/17/2008 10:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
if they are hiring 200 in 2009 when do you think they will start up the first clas of 2009?

10/17/2008 04:59:00 PM

I heard from a good source that sometime in 2009, they will hire another class of recruits. Play close attention to this blog for daily updates.

10/17/2008 11:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the poster who states repeatedly about the coming riots if/when B.O. is defeated by McCain actually has heard the same thing I have today?

Signed:
Witness to the birth of the USSA
(United Socialist States of America)

10/17/2008 12:43:00 AM


Hate to say it, but I gotta feeling that Barack Obama is gonna win. Will still probably riot anyway, just like the bulls, or oj, or a hurricane, or because it's leap year, or because the moon is full, or because...

10/17/2008 11:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The detention Aides are STILL in the 2009 budget

10/17/2008 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
There's a cadet that won't get eliminated if he is anything like his Sgt. father AKA LAPA Man of the Year. The tradition will carry on with his LAPA clout and maybe make daddy proud and be a "LAPA Cadet" of the year. When will it end.......


-----------------------------------

wait isnt there a g/o against having a relative under your direct control??? YOU MEAN THERES SCHENANIGANS A FOOT??? "GASP"
Seriously move daddy away from son. Lapa=overrated

SRT

10/18/2008 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is starting to look like the "SHELL" game, or 3 card monti!!!!

10/18/2008 01:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You must have been on cnn or one of the networks, the liberals are trying to convince everyone that the race is over already so conservatives won't bother to vote, don't buy it...

10/17/2008 09:29:00 PM

Liberal networks? Like foxnews? Because they're reporting Obama ahead too

10/18/2008 02:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bring that I was promoted twice by merit with the FOP. They said it was OK. Don't you realize my brother runs it. I am laughing all the way to the bank.

10/18/2008 02:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Wasn't Carother's brother merit promoted - twice???

10/17/2008 07:52:00 PM

why yes he was, and j-fed would not promote dumb ass to commander ike was furious!

10/18/2008 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Big Cat said...

Wasn't Carother's brother merit promoted - twice???

10/17/2008 07:52:00 PM

Actually 3 times... Dick,Sgt.Lt.....

10/18/2008 11:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We the People of the United States OF THE NEW MEXICO, in Order to form a more perfect OPEN BORDER FOR Union, establish UNEQUAL Justice FOR THE PO PO, insure ILLEGALS domestic Tranquility, provide ALIBI'S for the common CRIMINAL'S defense, promote the general Welfare SYSTEM, and secure the Blessings of SHORTSHANK Liberty to ourselves and our ILLEGAL'S Posterity, do FOR THE ordainED REV'S and establish this BROKEN Constitution for the United States of MEXICO.

10/18/2008 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liberal networks? Like foxnews? Because they're reporting Obama ahead too

They might be re4porting him ahead according to the liberal polls, they ahven't said the race is over, all the liberal media have, very subliminal...

10/18/2008 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Screw said...
I heard from the union today that D/As will not be laid off.

Maybe they came to their senses... but I don't have that much faith.

I'll believe it when I see it.

10/17/2008 09:40:00 PM

What union? FLOP! Are you kidding us?

10/18/2008 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

here's to hoping that punk ass keith who works 011 lockup 3rd watch is the first to get the shaft!

10/18/2008 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What union? FLOP! Are you kidding us?

++++++++

FOP doesn't represent Detention aides moron.

10/18/2008 07:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
here's to hoping that punk ass keith who works 011 lockup 3rd watch is the first to get the shaft!

10/18/2008 04:42:00 PM

You got balls putting a name on the blog and you remain anonymous. Tell him how you feel instead of here in the blog. This is a problem with this department, back stabbing each other.

10/18/2008 08:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its called "Trickle up poverty" its Barack Hussein's idea it also works in policing.

10/17/2008 08:21:00 AM

thanks Dr Savage got any points of your own, son, or are you planning to plagiarize WIND from here on out?

10/18/2008 09:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"(keeping in mind that most of any profits will be seized by Obama in order to redistribute the wealth)...

10/17/2008 04:22:00 PM"

How's you Deferred Comp doing lately. How about that plummeting Home value that your mortaged out on? Going send the Kiddies out trick or treating for donations so you don't have to forclose?

Is it still Morning in America, as we continue to reap the bounty of Compassionate Conservatism??

10/18/2008 11:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>FOP doesn't represent Detention aides moron.

10/18/2008 07:57:00 PM<<<

Just because they do not represent D/As does not mean they are not informed about what is going to happen to them. It effects the FOP membership so they should know.

10/19/2008 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You got balls putting a name on the blog and you remain anonymous. Tell him how you feel instead of here in the blog. This is a problem with this department, back stabbing each other.
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You are 100% right,
back stabbing is a big problem with this department.
Along with jealousy, ignorance and clout.

10/19/2008 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Screw said...

Anonymous said...

>>>FOP doesn't represent Detention aides moron.

10/18/2008 07:57:00 PM<<<

Just because they do not represent D/As does not mean they are not informed about what is going to happen to them. It effects the FOP membership so they should know.

10/19/2008 09:57:00 AM
___________________________

To the person who made the comment about the "FLOP":

The FOP does not represent the D/As. We are part of a larger barganing unit (Unit II) represented by SEIU Local 73 which includes Animal Control, Traffic, Parking Enforcement, Aviation Security.

I would hope that the FOP is on top of these issues because it would certainly affect the lockup and inside bid positions, as well as cuts in other departments that officers would be asked to pick up the slack.

Also, those who mention the guys in 011 and 019 you will get no argument that there are some assholes that work the lockup. I would hope that you consider those the minority and not lump us all together. How often does one bad PO smear the image of the rest of the department? Is that fair to the good POs?

When an arrestee gets brought into the lockup they do not see civilian and PO. They view us as an enemy. Yet another uniform standing in their way.

I can only speak for myself, but I am the first to take action when there is a problem. I am the first to take a hit and the first to take someone down, and I fight not only for myself but my partners. Do not denigrate my position.

Perhaps some of you view myself and other civilians as unequal, but I chose this job, most likely for the same reason most of you chose to be police officers. Give us that much.

10/19/2008 04:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GET RID OF THAT GLASSES AND CONTACT LENSES WEARING OLD ASS CHIEF OF A PILOT...ONLY IN CHICAGO

10/20/2008 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they lay off the Detention Aides I feel sorry for the Bid Lockup Keeper. He or she will have to support some dunken, dog ass P.O. who refuses to do any work.

10/20/2008 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You got balls putting a name on the blog and you remain anonymous. Tell him how you feel instead of here in the blog. This is a problem with this department, back stabbing each other.

10/18/2008 08:44:00 PM

where did you post your name mister big balls!If you gonna talk the talk then walk the walk! thats another problem with the dept.

10/20/2008 08:36:00 PM  

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