Blame Goes Around
So, taking a closer look at the Sun Times article linked in the "We're #1" posting, we find a whole bunch of excuse making:
- Weis, a career FBI agent, took office this year with a mandate to clean up the department in the wake of several scandals. But murders have risen, and arrests have fallen, on his watch.
As we stated before, we're of the opinion that Weis was hired to reign in a Department "out-of-control" when all evidence showed nothing of the sort. A few bad apples took down hundreds of honest hard working officers, a few bad drunks smeared thousands of others, a few bad judgment calls exacerbated the situation. All in all? Less than one-half of one percent of the total manpower accounted for all the scandal and could have been alleviated by better hiring practices, closer supervision and an end to clout-related disciplinary discrepancies.
- Under tough questioning at a Council hearing in July, Weis suggested there was a "degree of timidness" among officers afraid of having lawsuits and citizen complaints filed against them.
"timidness"? Way to inspire the troops to run out and do "aggressive" police work. Combine that with the Cozzi debacle and no one is "timid," they're intelligently interpreting which way the political winds are blowing. Bringing in a fed, ignorant of police traditions, duties and realities who blunders about federally indicting settled state cases? This was a completely foreseeable outcome.
- At today's hearing, Weis may highlight what police view as a different problem: Officers have spent nearly 5,000 hours filling out inventory forms in the first nine months of 2008. "We'd rather they be on the street," said Beatrice Cuello, deputy superintendent of patrol.
5,000 hours? We'd bet that was on the low side...or it would have been if arrests were anywhere near last year's totals. Aside from inventorying contraband, we now inventory prisoner's property, prisoner's money and prisoner's jewelry separately - three additional inventories for no discernible purpose. AIRA (Automated Case Reporting) is a glitch-ridden nightmare, but then so was CHRIS when it first started. Now it's a paragon of efficiency. Right? Right?!?
On the other hand, 5,000 hours is a mere two-plus man-years. That isn't that big a deal in a bloated bureaucracy. It's almost warp-speed around these parts. There sure is a lot of ass covering going on though.
On the other hand, 5,000 hours is a mere two-plus man-years. That isn't that big a deal in a bloated bureaucracy. It's almost warp-speed around these parts. There sure is a lot of ass covering going on though.
Labels: city politics, department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
68 Comments:
Thank you Anthony Abbatte for the single man downfall of this Department. Without you creating the worldwide perception that CPD are fat, drunken, biker-gang wannabes that can't land a punch on a woman who weighs over 100 pounds less than us, the FBI doesn't come in and take over.
4 FBI douchebags in Command positions on this Department. My father is rolling over in his grave! Thanks Tony, rot in hell!
let me understand this boss! Cozzi was not timid, took his 2 yaer no pay suspensiion you then put your fed buddies on him and he is looking at 8 yaers in a "deal"! Nice job! There are over 300 officers stripped for bullshit at callback, and you want us to work let me laugh now! Sorry we are not that crazy, let your exempts and white shirts do the work, they believe in you! Sorry we want a pension and to retire and not worry like your fed friends did to burge bringing up 20+ yaer old shit! We are the police not some day care group, this dept is what the mayor and the 50 brainless wanted hope they are happy! A special to all the fake revs that scare weak daley!
It's not the work we dislike it's the MICRO-MANAGING bosses who never worked a day!!!
Get better programs that can speed up the process and let POLICE do police work!!!
Special K biggest jag on the job, hope he's gone like a bad wind in a coal mine!
off topic: how about making the lockup keepers take your prisoner in a holding cell. we have to wait hour or hours to put in a prisoner while lock up watch the t.v. or sit around and wait for the next watch, while there is still half hour or hour before their end of shift.....
5000 hours on inventories alone?? I'd love to know who calculated that number, and ask the real number be revealed .. 5000 hours wouldn't cover one watch in one dist in that time-frame, much less in the entire city!!!!!
How long did those arrest reports take?? How long to process adults and juveniles when the juvies have to be then take to the JISC center? Or when your adult arrest has to be transported to a different detention dist??? the list is endless. Whomever they hired to re-write inventories and arrest reports should be made to use such form set through infinity!!! Automation is SUPPOSEDLY to make an in-proficient job a bit more user friendly and much more proficient!! NOT in this case. A 10 min inventory is now 30+ mins; a 20 min arrest report is now 1hr+, multiple arrests HAH!!!!!
For the love of God, revamp what was improvised in the first place and lets have USER input as to what would make this easier. Ah what am I thinking, attempting to apply logic where logic has never lived before.
And the desk sgt job with the automation is impossible!!! Between the automated arrest approvals, to inventory approvals, releasing prisoners, returning the properties inventoried just hours before, in addition to regular desk sgt duties ... its a joke, a plain and simple JOKE!!!!
and while all the officers processing arrests that take soooooo very much longer, who in the heck is patrolling the streets????
Everyone wonders why CHALKIE is the most prevalent presence in Chicago. Hum, I don't know.
CHRIS WORKS-- AIRA SUCKS-- this job used to be simple-- now you need to be somewhat computer literate to navigate the various systems which are currently being used by cpd. as for j-fed-- i will never work for this man-- he might talk a good game but he is bogus as hell. hey j-fed, you have your helmet ready for 4 nov-- you will need it-- and is your star number affixed to front of said helmet-- # 1 asshole.
Beat realignment is not a cure,it is just a smokescreen.Having adequate manpower is the key.Beat/sector integrity is the single most important issue,KNOW WHO IS WHO AND WHAT IS WHAT.The beat cop can tell when something is wrong.A simple piece of graffitti or open door on an abandoned bldg can cause serious problems.The good beat officer knows when Latin Kings are in G-D turf to address it before it becomes an issue.Mr. SUPERINTENDANT it's really not that hard.
how's this for PR----the day after chicago is named as the city leading the nation in homicides, chicago has a very high profile double (possibly a triple) homicide.
it would improve the efficiency of this dept. if working (arrest making) p.o.'s were closely involved in the development and implementation of new computer programs.
one gets the idea that these programs free up data entry personnel at street ofc. expense.
Blame the sheriff office for the high homicide rate. Paperwork is keeping the full compliment of 13,500 officers off the street. Sorry, my mistake. The budget director said we are only 11 officers down. 13,489 officers off the street. After beat realignment, north side districts will be lucky to have 9 beats, all 10-99. Of course I am forgetting the layoffs. If civilians are laid off, then officers to replace civilians. Of course, blame paperwork. Cuello has no idea, not a clue.
"Under tough questioning at a Council hearing in July, Weis suggested there was a "degree of timidness" among officers afraid of having lawsuits and citizen complaints filed against them."
Nice of jody to state the obvious.
I wonder why the midget told him to do so.
"'We'd rather they be on the street,' said Beatrice Cuello, deputy superintendent of patrol."
What's with this 'we' shit?
Or does Bea mean REALLY on the street, as in unemployed, and, thus, off the budget?
timidness...
Well, I get the impression that the line stupid-visors are mostly to blame for setting the stage for perceived "timidness" on the part of POs.
You know, the idea of actually saying "good job" or writing up an Honorable or DC that is viritually foreign to most SGTs.
A friend in the next unit over from me tracked down a "Most Wanted" guy on a year old warrant. Talks the idiot into cuffs without incident and gets told it isn't "worth anything" because it was from another areas' wanted listing.
WTF - and they wonder why arrests are down
On the other hand, 5,000 hours is a mere two-plus man-years. That isn't that big a deal in a bloated bureaucracy. It's almost warp-speed around these parts. There sure is a lot of ass covering going on though.
Maybe the desk should do these inventories WHEN the arrestee has to go to CC, like the order reads....
Holy Kick the Bums OUT Batman!!!
Get rid of all these corrupt politicians raising are taxes, user fees and fines.
Get rid of all these corrupt clout bosses in charge of the police depart.
Give us informed knowledgeable and tested leadership without political ties or considerations.
Give us a fair contract and department policies that make sense.
Get rid of CAPS, a complete waste of money.
What about the blundering buffoons who call themselves detectives? How many are really qualified to be detectives? I've seen them miss stab wounds on the deceased at crime scenes.
i wonder how many hour r spent on!
WAITING FOR A DICK TO PROCESS A JUVENILE.
WAITING BY A LOCK UP IN AREA 1 TO TAKE UR PRISONER.
WAITING FOR A TOW TRUCK FOR A HOT CAR... U DONT HAVE THIS PROBLEM ON STATE AND WABASH
WAITING FOR A STATE ATTORNEY FOR A BULLS HIT FELONY.
STANDING ON A CORNER WITH A SGT HARRASING PEOPLE ON A SO CALLED MISSION.
DELIVERING COPIES OF REPORTS EXEMPTS ARE TO LAZY TO LOOK UP ON A COMPUTER.
NOTIFYING EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER WHEN U HAVE A HEATER CASE BUT WHEN U R LOOKING FOR HELP A GOLD STAR WONT HAVE A CLUE.
HEY J-FED GET SUM PEEPS WITH SOME BALL AND COMMON SENSE TO HELP U OUT.
UR LIKE THE SUBSTITUTE TEACHER IN A GRAMMAR SCHOOL, ALL SCHOOL BUT NO COMMON SENSE OR EXPERIENCE!
Timid? Smart pension seeking men and women, is all I see, not Timid. Nicely said Scc
This murder rate is a direct result of De-policing. No more stopping and searching the guys you know to be bad, now you watch them walk from A-B and kill C. Plain and simple the city of cameras has produced this
AIRA is such a pain in the ass. I've gotten use to it taking longer to write a general offense report, but its just so god damn frusterating. Then if you make an arrest you have to fish the damn report outta CHRIS and print up the damn 3 to 4 pages. I thought this was suppose to save paper.
The aldermen at the budget hearings said he was doing a good job. NOT ONE said anything negative. This proves that Weis is doing a good job. There.
I now work in a "good" district, protecting decent people. I answer my calls and do not write a ticket at all (screw giving revenue to a city that cares less). Did my time in the shitholes, and all I can say it HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Mayor, welcome to Detroit west!! Your "beautiful" city is being flushed down the crapper!! You and Supt. Weiss keep messing with the officers and look what happens!! Mess with garbage now and watch what will happen, cant wait to smell that nasty stench from the alleyways!! YOU FRIGGING MORONS!!!!! I feel horrible for young city workers, and wish them all the luck in the world, I am gone in 2 years.
2 more years and I'll have my 20 on. I just want to leave! Hey Dickweed, put up some more redlight cameras...
The city and its residents are getting exactly what they've wanted...let's see how they like it now that Pookie is roaming the parks and the south loop and the rock n roll mcdonald's...be careful what you wish for...and don't call us, we're not gonna save your worthless ass.
Let the cameras do the work I won't.
Anonymous said...
off topic: how about making the lockup keepers take your prisoner in a holding cell. we have to wait hour or hours to put in a prisoner while lock up watch the t.v. or sit around and wait for the next watch, while there is still half hour or hour before their end of shift.....
10/25/2008 01:20:00 AM
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You will get no argument that some of the lockup guys are jerks. However, the lockup is the only place that is unfairly expected to work the minute they get in, to the minute they leave, when NO ONE ELSE in the department does so. A few minutes on the front to get the logs going and to make sure everything is ok from the last crew, and 15 to 30 mins on the end to pack up everything, do the last checks and talk things over with relief is not too much to ask for; they want a break too.
The people complaining the most are the tact guys who come in late, drive around for a few hours, get lunch, then go sandbag some bustout for DOPW and want to drop them off in the lockup right away so they can leave early. The beat cars I can understand wanting faster service, but again they don't work from the first to the last minute either; find your car, load up your gear, go get a coffee/pop/snack then come up for jobs, and come in early and wait out the tour in the station.
It's a shitty job and all those guys ask is for the same considerations that everyone else gets.
off topic: how about making the lockup keepers take your prisoner in a holding cell. we have to wait hour or hours to put in a prisoner while lock up watch the t.v. or sit around and wait for the next watch, while there is still half hour or hour before their end of shift.....
10/25/2008 01:20:00 AM
Must be talking about Central Detention
Allow people like Captain Farrell to stay around as long as they like. Keep knowledgeable cops around.
Bosses that micro manage ala missions every day are ruining the spontanous arrests that have panned out so many high profile cases, keep the missions coming
It wasn't too long ago that reports done in CHRIS could be changed after supervisor approval with no record of the change. This went on for over four months after Data Systems was notified of the problem. Guess which rocket scientists were in charge at the time.
Just look at the misspelled words in the lists of values that still exist in CHRIS. The whole system is pathetic. The I-Case system will be even worse if it is ever implemented. Was allegedly going into effect in Feb. '07.
Chalkie visits englewood 4 times in one day! Must of wanted to put on a show for the City Council and J-Fed
10/25/2008 01:20:00 AM
I couldn't agree more. Lock up mopes act like they are doing you a favor if they take your prisoner within an hour of the end of a shift yet we are answering calls up to the hour. They are dog asses and the civilians are just as bad if not worse.
William Balfour arrested in search for the killer and child abductor in the Jennifer Hudson family double homicide. "I didn't raise no murderer" mom Michelle Balfour says to media with the Rev.Jesse Jackson by her side at A/1 headquarters. Court records show that Mr. Balfour pled guilty to attempted murder and vehicular hijacking in 1999....1)well, technically mrs. Balfour is correct: she only raised an attempted murderer; 2) why is jesse here? To claim the police arrested an innocent honor-roll student? Where was Jesse when Officer Nate Taylor was killed? What a piece of shit. I suppose mr. and mrs. Balfour will now join forces like OJ to find the real killer
007 totals over 24 hour period: 4 homicides, 1 separate shooting, 1 stabbing, 1 aggravated vehicular hijacking/pursuit (offenders in custody). Englewood is giving the city an election nite preview. So Jody and King Richie, grab your popcorn, have Huberman oil ya up and sit back and enjoy the show!
I can do three inventories in 15 minutes. Give me a break. If they are worried about time efficiency, I wish they would take the commercial internet off the police computers. You go to the CPD page and it says 3,000 users are on line. Probably 200 doing legitiamte police business. How many house mice, play sergeants and CAPS personnel surf the net six hours a day? If an INSpector can gig a cop for a vehicle sticker, why can't he gig a desk person for having Ebay on a company computer when he walks in. We have one sergeant on midnites, (who happens to be an authentic eunuch) who actually installed a commercial PC game on the desk computer.
What if the public knew how prevalent this was and what peopel are being paid? This is more "Pay for Play" than Rezko's "Pay for Play."
As usual, CPD is lightyears behind all other major departments even suburban depts. Arrest, case, tow, impound, inventory, all are on different programs and different pieces of paper. Have you seen the curfews? looks the application for a home equity loan, you have to be crazy to fill one of those out. No shit were in the station for hours on simple arrest.
I must apologize, I had a great comment, but cramps in my hands from filling out inventory forms keep me from posting it.
'08 - '68...
burn baby burn!!!
"degree of timidness"
No, it is a degree of watch out for my own ass because the back stabbing Fed cock sucker running this department will stick a knife in at the drop of a CR number.
I now follow the rules, period. Exact, precise and never outside the lines. The bosses for many years knew that their workers occasionally strayed over the line, this is police work, sometimes rules get bent or plain ignored.
We got the arrests and the bosses took care of us. That was the unwritten agreement. That all stopped when Jody took over. Now we do not break any rules, we do not go over the line. Not at all, not ever. We do not believe Jody "has our backs."
We have our own backs. If a Sgt wants me to do anything illegal, anything at all, I will refuse that order. I do nothing that is not exactly permitted by General Order or State Statute. Like the Feds.
No timed, yes follow all rules. Fuck Jody. You came in here like gang busters and brought this on yourself. No way will you turn this department back into hard chargers again.
The problem with the Chicago PD is the culture. They love to play poor victim and lament over their being 'smeared' whenever the actions of bad cops are brought to light, yet how often are the cops themselves ferreting out these 'bad cops' from their own ranks?
Or how often to they simply keep their mouths shut about the stuff they see go on?
Sorry, no. When good cops bust bad cops from their own departments, maybe then I'll have a bit of respect for their 'departmental reputation'. When it takes the Feds having to come in and clean house, that really speaks to an inherent rottenness that goes on behind closed doors.
Be it New York City in the Serpico era, small town corruption factories like the Henry County, VA Sheriffs Department or the most recent Federal Babbysitting of the Chicago PD. If you can't keep your own house clean, then expect the big Federal nanny to come in and clean it up for you.
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"4 FBI douchebags in Command positions on this Department. My father is rolling over in his grave! Thanks Tony, rot in hell!
10/25/2008 12:37:00 AM"
That what Daddy teach you find yourself a fall guy & put it all on him. Abbate is the sole cause for the current state we're currently in?
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?
He'sa very,very small part of what led up to this. BTW,The only Douchebag is the one you see in the Mirror each morning.
"What about the blundering buffoons who call themselves detectives? How many are really qualified to be detectives?"
How many are qualiifed to be the Police? Like anything on this department is legit.Please. Check yourself Bitch, check yourself
Be it New York City in the Serpico era, small town corruption factories like the Henry County, VA Sheriffs Department or the most recent Federal Babbysitting of the Chicago PD. If you can't keep your own house clean, then expect the big Federal nanny to come in and clean it up for you.
Yeah, and we all see how well that is working....
Here's the thing boys and girls, J-Fed is not the enemy. I realized this after having gone to one of his town-hall meetings. J-Fed really believes that his ideas are valid. Only problem is that the upper food chain is feeding him bad info from which he formulates his ideas. Case in point: Mayor recruits him to "clean up a department out of control." We all know that it was a handful of morons and a liberal media that made us all look bad. "Replaced 21 of 25 district commanders", obviously someone got in his ear and told him what he needed to hear in order to get him to do a hatchet job. Which really wasn't a hatchet job at all, it was a "realignment" of the command staff. How many bosses really got launched...I think it was 3 or 4. "Recreate SOS under a new name" because "SOS reduced crime by 25%." Again, someone got in his ear and got him to believe this load. Yes, SOS did their part but crime was reduced by 25% because the entire department finally got its collective head out of its ass and started working together. SOS is being reorganized because some bosses kid lost his spot and wanted it back, so the powers that be got in J-Fed's ear and got him to think it was a good idea. Now someone is in his ear saying, "Jody, we need to realign beats. If you pull this off it will reduce crime and you will be the hero." The real enemies of this department are the people feeding J-Fed the bad info. People, he was totally clueless. He has no idea what transpires on a day to day basis because the rest of the food chain is keeping him in the dark on purpose. They know that if he really saw what was going on in the upper echelons he would launch the entire lot and bring in the rest of his fed buddies. Hell, that might not be a bad idea. They couldn't do any worse than the command staff that he has surrounded himself with currently. J-Fed does what he does because he is ignorant, and I don't mean that in the "stupid" sense, I mean that in the literal sense. He does not know what happens on a daily basis because his staff keeps him blindfolded. The real enemies are from within, boys and girls. They are the very people that are telling us that it will be ok. They are our bosses that are looking out for their own asses and just riding this out, so that when J-Fed moves on they can get right back to business as usual. You think about it for a minute or two. You will see the light. Look around at who is just covering their asses in order to get passed this and return to the good ole' days. See who the enemy really is!
To : 10/25/2008 02:40:00 AM
CHRIS does not work! Great idea and concept but is way overpriced, and since it doesn't work with AIRA, defeats the primary purpose. Huberman stated we have a paperless reporting system. Then what the fuck are all the file cabinets n the Areas filled with and what do I haul around in my briefcase? Huberman made such outrageous statements thats seconds after a patrol officer completed a GOCR that it would be instantaneously transmited to an Area Detective who will begin a followup investigation!!!!! Fucking lies lies lies and the media and city eat this shit up.
"go get a coffee/pop/snack then come up for jobs, and come in early and wait out the tour in the station." what candy land district do you work in buddy, i know it ain't 004, 006, or 007 where you getting banged as your being handed your radio from the radio room. let's be honest here lockup has the laziest guys in the whole dept. "no we can't take your prisoner now, can't you see we just got our third take out meal of the night, and dancing with the stars is just about to start"
Listen up !
I don't want anymore crying. So what if you get no raise and your kids have to eat government cheese. I don't want to hear about who you know, I just want to know who sent you. You all better shape up and buy a cat while your out for a morning run.
Thank You for all your hard work. Please don't tell the new members of the ( MSF) of the back stabbing awaiting them.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"What about the blundering buffoons who call themselves detectives? How many are really qualified to be detectives?"
How many are qualiifed to be the Police? Like anything on this department is legit.Please. Check yourself Bitch, check yourself
10/25/2008 09:40:00 PM
You fucking worthless piece of shit next time you want help on a bull shit shooting, or a battery on the police don,t call the "Buffoons" figure it out for yourself.
Sorry, no. When good cops bust bad cops from their own departments, maybe then I'll have a bit of respect for their 'departmental reputation'. When it takes the Feds having to come in and clean house, that really speaks to an inherent rottenness that goes on behind closed doors.
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You're an idiot civilian, plain and simple.
Many times there is no one to report 'bad' cops to.
For instance, let's say one of your supervisors is ex-IAD. If you want to report him, or one of his 'chosen ones', do you not think he will have an inside track on what is going on and also have influence on an investigation?
So then where do you go? To the Feds? IAD works with the Feds all the time...do you not think a Fed might make a call to this particular sgt.?
A couple years ago this is exactly the predicament I was in. It was not a question of being a rat. You are not a rat if there it is rampant corruption you are trying to report.
Go ahead and blast me...then turn around and complain on this blog about clout and corruption in the next breath.
I weighed my options seriously. And I decided the best option was to keep my mouth shut.
Because in this town, it REALLY IS TRUE...YOU CANNOT FIGHT CITY HALL.
. . . Of course I am forgetting the layoffs. If civilians are laid off, then officers to replace civilians. Of course, blame paperwork. Cuello has no idea, not a clue.
10/25/2008 08:56:00 AM
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Don't forget they also want to get rid of 350-500 Limited Duty Police Officers = so there will be EVEN less PO's on the street!
Yeah, and we all see how well that is working....
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Doing NOTHING was so much MORE effective...
Chalkie visits englewood 4 times in one day! Must of wanted to put on a show for the City Council and J-Fed
10/25/2008 04:35:00 PM
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Funny, it seems to me that there was an awfull lot of police presence in and out of englewood yesterday = yet it did not stop 2 more murders!!!!!
Does J-Fraud know what a Beat is?
old foster guy.....its your job to make arrest, that what you get paid for. Tell your friend that too.
Anonymous said...
The problem with the Chicago PD is the culture. They love to play poor victim and lament over their being 'smeared' whenever the actions of bad cops are brought to light, yet how often are the cops themselves ferreting out these 'bad cops' from their own ranks?
Or how often to they simply keep their mouths shut about the stuff they see go on?
Sorry, no. When good cops bust bad cops from their own departments, maybe then I'll have a bit of respect for their 'departmental reputation'. When it takes the Feds having to come in and clean house, that really speaks to an inherent rottenness that goes on behind closed doors.
Be it New York City in the Serpico era, small town corruption factories like the Henry County, VA Sheriffs Department or the most recent Federal Babbysitting of the Chicago PD. If you can't keep your own house clean, then expect the big Federal nanny to come in and clean it up for you.
10/25/2008 07:43:00 PM
- To this poster, i guess you never heard of Gerald Callahan, just to name one. Officers tried to stop him. Have you ever heard of the word CLOUT, oh great and mighty pontificator?
Your mindset is indicative of the the problem CPD has to deal with due to CORRUPT POLITICS and CLUELESS FEDS sitting 'high on the hill' with no comprehension of the task on the street and too much arrogance to admit it.
The combination of ARROGANCE AND IGNORANCE one of the most tragic and disgusting. Add GREED - as in Daley's back door deals, thieving aldermen and an overpaid, clueless former fed superintendent. Further, make that superintendent unwilling or unable to stand up for what's right, either because he doesn't know how or to fatten his future nest. That's the recipe for one toxic cocktail.
It is this mindset that is causing people to be killed and tying the hands of good knowledgeable street police.
Your comment is both arrogant and ignorant. Please look in the mirror and have enough balls to admit it. That is the only way to make a true, honorable difference in this world. The truth will set you free.
What about the blundering buffoons who call themselves detectives? How many are really qualified to be detectives? I've seen them miss stab wounds on the deceased at crime scenes.
Most of the good ones have retired. You have a few left.
11:19 pm ...
You are right on I think. The people who have J-Fed's ear though are hand selected by Daley.
Some other post mentioned Capt Farrel; I could think of a handfull of other REAL policemen who could set J-Fed straight.
But the fact is this city and Dept are hopeless!
5 and some change to go!
For instance, let's say one of your supervisors is ex-IAD. If you want to report him, or one of his 'chosen ones', do you not think he will have an inside track on what is going on and also have influence on an investigation?
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So then what you're saying is that the fundamental structure of the Department is compromised?
OK, just so long as you admit it.
Of course that means that any public trust in the department isn't just unwarranted, it's STUPID.
But, like I said, "ok".
"Does J-Fraud know what a Beat is?
10/26/2008 07:41:00 AM"
No, but he knows what a beat off is.
Sorry, no. When good cops bust bad cops from their own departments, maybe then I'll have a bit of respect for their 'departmental reputation'. When it takes the Feds having to come in and clean house, that really speaks to an inherent rottenness that goes on behind closed doors.
Well little man, I'm the real police and this poster is right, People hate us because of dummy officer such as yourself.
So then what you're saying is that the fundamental structure of the Department is compromised?
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You're kidding me, right? NO, WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THE FUNDAMENTAL STRUCTURE OF THE WHOLE OF CITY GOVERNMENT AND STATE GOVERNMENT IS COMPROMISED!
I'm still holding out hope for the U.S. Attorney, so I won't say anything about Federal yet.
And oh yeah, in case you haven't noticed, the MOB (yes, it's alive and well) runs most if not all of this city.
The core problem is CLOUT and GREED, and in Shortshanks' case, POWER.
Now do you understand why we don't do shit? And why we could care less?
And oh yeah, by the way, as part of that case I was hit with a Federal civil rights violation suit that I'm sure was written by Jay Leno's comedy writers.
And yet, I am still going to Corp. Counsel over it, two years later!
So buy yourself a gun, because you're gonna need it pal....the police department is DONE. History. You asked for it, you got it.
You're probably a liberal ass**le like Ayers, who hate the police and MF them at every opportunity, until you need them.
Your only saving grace was this comment:
"Of course that means that any public trust in the department isn't just unwarranted, it's STUPID."
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- To this poster, i guess you never heard of Gerald Callahan, just to name one. Officers tried to stop him. Have you ever heard of the word CLOUT, oh great and mighty pontificator?
Your mindset is indicative of the the problem CPD has to deal with due to CORRUPT POLITICS and CLUELESS FEDS sitting 'high on the hill' with no comprehension of the task on the street and too much arrogance to admit it.
The combination of ARROGANCE AND IGNORANCE one of the most tragic and disgusting. Add GREED - as in Daley's back door deals, thieving aldermen and an overpaid, clueless former fed superintendent. Further, make that superintendent unwilling or unable to stand up for what's right, either because he doesn't know how or to fatten his future nest. That's the recipe for one toxic cocktail.
It is this mindset that is causing people to be killed and tying the hands of good knowledgeable street police.
Your comment is both arrogant and ignorant. Please look in the mirror and have enough balls to admit it. That is the only way to make a true, honorable difference in this world. The truth will set you free.
10/26/2008 11:16:00 AM
Excellent post...and AMEN.
gheez, no one's found a way to save cozzi. i can't believe it.
hey guys! some of you need to pull farrell's nuts out of your mouths
! im not saying he aint a good boss,but stop acting like he is god or the only competent boss on the job.maybe its a reason he is not higher than a captain!
""For the love of God, revamp what was improvised in the first place and lets have USER input as to what would make this easier. Ah what am I thinking, attempting to apply logic where logic has never lived before""
Problem is the usual $$$$$$ Many years ago several of us spent 4 days in a 'train the trainer' class on the OLD pdt's.
We kept pointing things out that would make the system better, but the answer from the instructors was always the same "That's a great idea, but every change we want to make costs about $20000 dollars"
SO, once the system almost works, thats it folks!!!!
To: 10/25/2008 09:40:00 PM
As a dick for over 15 years, I agree, the D unit isnt was it used to be.
Its downfall started when the closed the old Area 3. It was then led by various Chief of Detectives, who were never dicks. It is full of dicks now who are just on a lay over until they make sgt. In the good old days, when you "made" dick, you were a dick for life, there was no shame in that. You were respected from top to bottom. Most old school dicks are gone now, and they will never be replaced. I can say that I will never be able to follow in the footsteps of certain detective division legends, as much as I wish I could. The D unit has had its balls chopped off and I'm tied to my CHRIS computer generating hundred of nonsense reports so some boss at 35th can sit his happy ass at a computer screan and check on what I am doing, rather than me knocking on doors and getting info the old fashion way.
"(M)aybe its (sic) a reason that (John Farrell) is not higher than a captain!" - 7:31 PM
YOU are one delusional dumbfuck.
Its downfall started when the closed the old Area 3. It was then led by various Chief of Detectives, who were never dicks. It is full of dicks now who are just on a lay over until they make sgt. In the good old days, when you "made" dick, you were a dick for life, there was no shame in that. You were respected from top to bottom. Most old school dicks are gone now, and they will never be replaced. I can say that I will never be able to follow in the footsteps of certain detective division legends, as much as I wish I could. The D unit has had its balls chopped off and I'm tied to my CHRIS computer generating hundred of nonsense reports so some boss at 35th can sit his happy ass at a computer screan and check on what I am doing, rather than me knocking on doors and getting info the old fashion way.
The work ethic for most of the newer dets. isn't there either, most are happy to take two hour lunches and play on the internet for hours, then suspend a case in their inbox without the littlest of effort to clear it, sorry I was there and witnessed it everyday.
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