Leap of Faith?
Mayor Daley’s $6 billion 2009 budget — precariously balanced with 635 or fewer layoffs, slow police hiring and $52.5 million worth of taxes, fines and fees — sailed through the City Council Wednesday amid concern about even tougher times ahead.
The final vote was 49-1 after a two-hour debate.
And there’s another potential pitfall. If the mayor doesn’t seal the deal to privatize Chicago's 35,000 parking meters by year's end — and get at least $150 million from the transaction to use for operations this year and next — he’ll have to find another way to close that gap.
The bottom line is that the City Council took what downtown Ald. Brendan Reilly (42nd) has called a "leap of faith" by approving the mayor’s $6 billion budget.
And don't expect any help soon - do more with less!
- To save $10 million, only 200 police officers will be hired during all of 2009. With more than 400 vacancies already and an annual attrition rate of 600, Chicago could end the year 800 officers short of the police strength it had on Jan. 1, 2008.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
66 Comments:
You better believe its a leap of faith. New York and California and almost every other state has been reporting monthly that their revenue projections are lower than than month before.
Not to get all economic on y'all, but this is classic Austrian-school deflation, where the only thing worth holding is cold hard cash. Tomorrow you can buy something for less than it costs today, but declining prices are only the sympton of deflation. The real cause is the destruction of money by lost debt/lost credit. And its hitting everyone and everything.
At some point, Daley will either get help from Obama or there is a world of pain coming to municipal workers.
On the subject of people getting disgusted and leaving....I heard that the officer who was on board the police helicopter that went down in the auto pound on election night has become the latest person to leave our helicopter unit because of the way Harry Hohm treats the people in that unit. At almost 64 years old, isn't it time they got rid of Harry the Hat? If he can't treat people properly, then why should he get any special treatment himself. Hopefully somebody will see the light and lay his geriatric cranky and incompetent ass off!! They would save $103,000 a year right there with just one layoff. Not to mention the fact that maybe they would be able to get people to stay in the helicopter unit for more than a year that way. That unit is the only unit in the entire department that has a revolving door with people leaving faster than they can be replaced.
taxing fucking garbage cans, is he out of his mind. Every business will pack up and leave! Chicago will soon be a desolate wasteland of empty store fronts! ACTUALY IT ALREADY IS! Great way to encourage growth! It compliments our %10.25 %sales Tax and our sign tax! Lader tax and awning tax! What a joke!
Watch for CPD to really suffer and CFD to suffer next. Da Mayo hates that he has to deal with us because most of us tested to come on the job and did not have to ring doorbells to get it. We are of no use to him yet most of his budget woes are because he has to deal with us. Without law and order you have nothing. So get over it Mayo you need us because without the CPD and CFD you have nothing. Your lucky we cannot strike because 95% of us would like to but our oath is to the citizens of Chicago to serve and protect. It is not to you. You are not a leader just a user and the CPD and CFD will not let you use us. You disgust me! Your even disgusting non city employees that live on my block! Your use of fear to get re-elected is wearing thin. I predict you will not even carry the white vote any more! A leader your NOT!
I smell baloney. BHO will come to the resuce soon. But will the pensions still be there??....
More dirty Chicagoan's going to D.C.:
Also, multiple Democratic sources say billionaire Chicago businesswoman Penny Pritzker is Obama's choice for commerce secretary.
The sources say she will accept the job, which would be formally offered after vetting is complete. Pritzker ran Barack Obama's record-breaking fundraising effort, serving as the campaign's finance chair.
SCC said...
"The final vote was 49-1 after a two-hour debate. 49 to 1. Models of courage, those aldercreatures are"...
Let's see now...
2 hrs of debate for $6 billion...
1 hour per $3 billion...
20 minutes per $1 billion...
10 minutes per $500 million...
or $50 million per minute of debate...
Good thing Daley's Imperial Council only works part time! A billion dollars here and a billion dollars there, and pretty soon you're talkin' about some REAL money!!!!
Wish they'd give the contract a few minutes of debate!!!
rc
I was over by Wrigley yesterday & noticed that on Clark St, from Addison to Halsted the city has removed all the parking meters in lieu of those pay boxes.
Were the old meters broken?!
Just one more way Richie is trying to scam more revenue from citizens!
And hey, if that pay box is broken I'm sure the meter maids will kindly refrain from issuing citations!
Yeah right!
But the good news is that the Aldermen's 6% pay hike for their part time job, is safe. thank God !!
You might as well count my position as unfilled also because I aint doing sh*t
RUNWAY UPDATES.
-from the Trib online.
Airlines seek to scale back O'Hare's expansion
With new runway set to open Thursday, major carriers call further building plans 'premature and inappropriate'
merican Airlines and United Airlines, the two largest carriers at the airport, said the O'Hare plan is flawed, according to the statements sent to city and federal authorities that oppose more spending on the project.
They called Chicago's effort to move ahead with the project "premature and inappropriate" because of the decline in air travel and the airline industry's uncertain future.
Ocasio had the balls to stand up to Shortshanks.He will have the Feds on his ass,after Daley gets a lapdog appointed as the US Attorney.
Doing more with less?
Even if we had more I think they think we would still do less!
If only the cameras could put the handcuffs on people, drive cars and write the reports Daley's problem with us doing LESS is solved!
Signed
ROBOCOP
looks like daley will have to raid the 500+million in skyway "hidden" olympic money! hey mayor let the tax payers vote on the olympic fiasco, bet they would not want to lose billions, as youy give your family and friends more contracts and you get paid off even more! Why are you not in prison mayor, guess it will never happen as you continue to rob from us!
What does that mean for Sgt. promotiom.
I am in the 140's and my soon to be husband is low 200's.
Will they keep the list going?
Damn meritorious fools...
What an aldercreature calls a "leap of faith," sounds like taking a dive to me.
(OT) Hey boss the city is crying broke, but thanks for standing up for the 9161 patrolmen and saving the city millions in the mean time! Whats that you ask? The special by the President epect residence and downtown. Why is it that the airports and cha are not the same? Fair is fair we cannot do a dectectives job, or security specialist,et,crime lab, bomb and arson etc... Why are they allowed the big pay for doing our job? All the extra should be at 9161 pay there is no expertise needed of detectives or any other "speciality" lets play the game fair all special paid at 9161 and if mark donouhue does not like it tough shit! Thanks in advance for all the 9161 workers!
To, 9161 bitch.
Life ain't fair, so grow up. 9161 officers have not been trained to be, ETs, bomb techs, detectives, etc. But everyone of the afforementioned titles have been trained as 9161.
As an FTO, I explained to my Sgt that I no longer can write tickets, direct traffic, or handle any other function of a 9161.
All that I'll do now is evaluate recruits. Oh, there are no recruits, oh well...
By the way, when we win the grievence for not being allowed to work the detail, we will get our higher rate $$$ without ever having to stand in the cold.
Enjoy.
WAIT TILL THE GET RID OF FELONY REVIEW AND THEN CUT ALL OVERTIME!
RELEASE WITHOUT CHARGING WILL B VERY COMMON.
The farmer has a shitload of chickens and is making a living selling the eggs, all of his employees are paid as well as his bills, times get a little tough so he sells the rights to some of his chickens eggs, yet he still has to feed them, times get even more tough so he sells more egg rights and yet still has to feed those chickens too, he sells the rest of those rights and finds out he don't have enough money to pay his employees,bills or feed for the chickens left after all the rights money is gone, NOW WHAT IS HE GONNA DO
Hey dumbass, the differance is that any specialist or Det. can do the job of a 9161, but you don't have the training to do ours. I can't wait to file this grievance. Get some time on the job Punk!
If your maxed out and you work in Streets and San, General Services, Electricians, laborers and the other union trades the city is going to offer a buy out in January. If they don't take it ,the city is going to them off. No word on CPD or CFD.
Ocasio is a pimp, it was Barzini all along.
One of the aldermen stated that Mr. Mayor has skyway & olympic funds stashed.
As the Mayor travels to Turkey for an olympic trip, the taxpayers jet raped.
(OT) Hey boss the city is crying broke, but thanks for standing up for the 9161 patrolmen and saving the city millions in the mean time! Whats that you ask? The special by the President epect residence and downtown. Why is it that the airports and cha are not the same? Fair is fair we cannot do a dectectives job, or security specialist,et,crime lab, bomb and arson etc... Why are they allowed the big pay for doing our job? All the extra should be at 9161 pay there is no expertise needed of detectives or any other "speciality" lets play the game fair all special paid at 9161 and if mark donouhue does not like it tough shit! Thanks in advance for all the 9161 workers!
It's simple, they were already patrolmen, you aren't qualified to be a detective or you would have passed the test, and obviously not connected enough to get the rest so quit whining, gotta go I have O'hare tonday, bye...D2A!
Heard they are going to assign each officer a parking meter instead of a raise. Whatever you get out of that meter is yours.
Off Topic:
Screw Ned Flanders!
Did the city pass its $60 gun registration fee on non-duty guns??
Anonymous said...
taxing fucking garbage cans, is he out of his mind. Every business will pack up and leave! Chicago will soon be a desolate wasteland of empty store fronts! ACTUALY IT ALREADY IS! Great way to encourage growth! It compliments our %10.25 %sales Tax and our sign tax! Lader tax and awning tax! What a joke!
11/20/2008 12:16:00 AM
No they won't leave, they will just pass that expence (and some more probably) to their clients.
These failed tax policies only hurt the little guy.
Anonymous said...
On the subject of people getting disgusted and leaving....I heard that the officer who was on board the police helicopter that went down in the auto pound on election night has become the latest person to leave our helicopter unit because of the way Harry Hohm treats the people in that unit. At almost 64 years old, isn't it time they got rid of Harry the Hat? If he can't treat people properly, then why should he get any special treatment himself. Hopefully somebody will see the light and lay his geriatric cranky and incompetent ass off!! They would save $103,000 a year right there with just one layoff. Not to mention the fact that maybe they would be able to get people to stay in the helicopter unit for more than a year that way. That unit is the only unit in the entire department that has a revolving door with people leaving faster than they can be replaced.
11/20/2008 12:16:00 AM
Hey dickhead, too bad it wasn't one of OUR helicopters that went down there!!
Anonymous said...
What does that mean for Sgt. promotiom.
I am in the 140's and my soon to be husband is low 200's.
Will they keep the list going?
Damn meritorious fools...
11/20/2008 06:52:00 AM
You might learn how it feels to be oh so close to promotion and not get it. You will see people hundreds or thousands places below you get sent to Sgt. school.
Put your faith in a higher power, not in the promotion process.
Do not generate money for the machine..handle your jobs..do a cta check,park check(ev #)..and promote tss cards..fuck any tows or parkers..daley doesn't give a fuck bout us! why are we helpin him out?
Look we went from 14.500 in 1992 to 8,200 in 2008..lies lies lies..look it up
Bless our wonderful mayor, for again saving us from destruction.
It is a true miracle we have this man. He does have divine intervention in these matters.
He always has our best interests in mind.
Thank You again great mayor for saving us.
"With All Our Rage, We Are Still Just Rats In A Cage"
What does that mean for Sgt. promotiom.
I am in the 140's and my soon to be husband is low 200's.
Will they keep the list going?
Damn meritorious fools...
11/20/2008 06:52:00 AM
?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I'm with you budinski.
I am in the 120's, my soon to be wife is low 170's and my boyfriend is upper 90's.
Anonymous said...
(OT) Hey boss the city is crying broke, but thanks for standing up for the 9161 patrolmen and saving the city millions in the mean time! Whats that you ask? The special by the President epect residence and downtown. Why is it that the airports and cha are not the same? Fair is fair we cannot do a dectectives job, or security specialist,et,crime lab, bomb and arson etc... Why are they allowed the big pay for doing our job? All the extra should be at 9161 pay there is no expertise needed of detectives or any other "speciality" lets play the game fair all special paid at 9161 and if mark donouhue does not like it tough shit! Thanks in advance for all the 9161 workers!
11/20/2008 06:55:00 AM
I agree 100% does anyone on 35th notice! The pooches who are dics make lots of ot, hope this is all 9161!
Anonymous said...
Ocasio had the balls to stand up to Shortshanks.He will have the Feds on his ass,after Daley gets a lapdog appointed as the US Attorney.
11/20/2008 03:47:00 AM
Yea maybe ocasios gang banging friends need something!
The Sgt's and Lt's lists will stay up for a very long time - no money for testing - plus the lists are legally defensible. Also, the City is not promoting at rates which have been seen in the past - Sgt's list up for 4 more years, Lt's list for 7.
daley has hired the illustrious firm of dewey, cheatem, and howe to cook the books.
Since the American car companies are going bust. Does that mean we will get Toyota Corollia's as squad cars????
"....I was over by Wrigley yesterday...."
Looking for me, cutie?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Why are they allowed the big pay for doing our job? All the extra should be at 9161 pay there is no expertise needed of detectives or any other "speciality" lets play the game fair all special paid at 9161 and if mark donouhue does not like it tough shit! Thanks in advance for all the 9161 workers!
11/20/2008 06:55:00 AM
I hate how these people are always worried about what somebody else has/does.
You're losing focus. It's us up against the city. Stick together.
do you think a 20 spot will get me what i need for my case?
Contract time..grab your ankles and sperad your cheeks here it comes the Daley express right up our asses.
OT - The airlines say put a hold on O'Hare Airport expansion. Just watch Shortshanks expand it anyways. Shortshank's friends, Rossi Construction and others, need the money, so we, taxapyers, and our sold assets, midway, parking meters,and Skyway, will pay for expansion. O'Hare has always been a place to steal from, a theif's economic engine.
My biased opinion as for the Sgt. list is that it will remain up for several more years in order to make at 400-500 off the list. History shows that is usually about the number the city makes off the list and it costs the city millions to develope, administer and grade the largest of the promotional exams on the Dept. The city doesn't have the money and it would be quite a PR scandal if it got out in the media that the city only made 200 people off a list and then went and spent money like that to give a new test. This is only my opinion and I am hoping they keep it up for awhile so I can make it. Here's hoping.
So how much of the 6 billion is for our raises?
Word is that a company named Omni Consumer Products will run the CPD. Daley owns OCP and hired a new superintendendt named ED 209 aka j-fed. stay tuned for more info.
"So get over it Mayo you need us because without the CPD and CFD you have nothing."
Newsflash Asshat, CFD is a Clout Army. He wanted save Money he could hire private ambulances& contract out Fire Services & save 100s of Millions. 95% of all Calls for Fire service are EMS Runs.They aint fighting the fires big guy, therefore not needed to sit& wait,& wait&wait. Police service altogther different,there's no comparison between the two.
"I am in the 140's and my soon to be husband is low 200's."
Hubbie& Wife Sergeants,Imagine that?
Must be phenomenal test takers. It's all Legit.
CHICAGO WILL BE THE FIRST MUNICIPALITY TO AS FOR A BAIL OUT ONCE OBAMA TAKES OFFICE.
Has anyone addressed these new STOP missions? Are you kidding me?? Is it official? Has everyone completely lost their mind?? Let's see, we're horribly undermanned, many districts have day-long backlogs, our homicide rate is climbing;I know how to fix it, let's down cars on every watch ON THE WEEKEND to do seatbelt missions. Hello media, reverands, city council members, firemen, teachers, city workers, ANYBODY!!! Like us or not but we, the police, are your last defense against this city becoming Gary, Robbins or Detroit. Your Mayor doesn't care, do you think any of his friends are losing money or jobs? Does anyone else have a problem with the leaders of your Police Dept./city thinking that the best way to address the rising number of murders in your city is to NOT hire more police and REQUIRE patrol cars to stop patrolling where you live and write seatbelt violations on the weekends, the busiest time of the week. Let's see, we won't hire new police, we won't try to stay close to the number of retirees, we won't even get these clout hacks out of their sacred spots that should be filled by civilians if they are needed at all, but what will will do is give you less police service on the weekend. For the love of God will this city stop worrying about what Obama is having for dinner and worry about your city, your families, you houses, etc.
Dumbshit , everyone starts off at 9161 so everyone has done"your job". So those who go on to something else should be punished? You two-year wonders just don't get it. That mind set will be the death of us all including the Union. We have to stay the course and never give in the City. If a side job pays your hourly wage, then it should never be reduced. Bitch about Mark, and yeah I'm with you . But a Union is a necessary evil that we cannot live without.If you ever pass a fucking test you would see it from the other side.
Anonymous said...
(OT) Hey boss the city is crying broke, but thanks for standing up for the 9161 patrolmen and saving the city millions in the mean time! Whats that you ask? The special by the President epect residence and downtown. Why is it that the airports and cha are not the same? Fair is fair we cannot do a dectectives job, or security specialist,et,crime lab, bomb and arson etc... Why are they allowed the big pay for doing our job? All the extra should be at 9161 pay there is no expertise needed of detectives or any other "speciality" lets play the game fair all special paid at 9161 and if mark donouhue does not like it tough shit! Thanks in advance for all the 9161 workers!
11/20/2008 06:55:00 AM
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You must be Soft or a Troll. If you think the Dept did what they did to take care of D1 you are nuts. It is a money decision. Also, it helps cause distention among the ranks which is something that benefits the city.
You also say fair is fair that you cannot do a Dets, ET, Crime lab, etc job then show me what kind of special Employment that those and other non 9161 P.O.s get that you do not. Beside we are ALL blue shirts and there have been time in the past that ALL of us have had to act as Patrol. (Bulls Riot, Immigration March, That BS summit a couple of years ago).
Seniority is a great thing. It is the great equalizer. We will all get it someday. I waited my turn, you wait yours.
(OT) Hey boss the city is crying broke, but thanks for standing up for the 9161 patrolmen and saving the city millions in the mean time! Whats that you ask? The special by the President epect residence and downtown. Why is it that the airports and cha are not the same? Fair is fair we cannot do a dectectives job, or security specialist,et,crime lab, bomb and arson etc... Why are they allowed the big pay for doing our job? All the extra should be at 9161 pay there is no expertise needed of detectives or any other "speciality" lets play the
YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON!!!! THE DETECTIVE TITLE IS POLICE OFFICER ASSIGNED AS A DETECTIVE YOU FUCKING MORON.......I WISH THEY WOULD CREATE A SEPARATE ACTUAL RANK FOR DETECTIVES.. ITS AMAZING THAT WHEN THE CITY WANTS TO RECOGNIZE THAT DETECTIVES ARE SEPARATE THEY DO BUT WHEN ITS NOT CONVENIENT FOR THEM THEY DON'T....
Why are they allowed the big pay for doing our job? All the extra should be at 9161 pay there is no expertise needed of detectives or any other "speciality" lets play the game fair all special paid at 9161 and if mark donouhue does not like it tough shit! Thanks in advance for all the 9161 workers!
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you whiny shit. wait your turn junior, we waited and you will as well. pissant
Anonymous said...
Why are they allowed the big pay for doing our job? All the extra should be at 9161 pay there is no expertise needed of detectives or any other "speciality" lets play the game fair all special paid at 9161 and if mark donouhue does not like it tough shit! Thanks in advance for all the 9161 workers!
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you whiny shit. wait your turn junior, we waited and you will as well. pissant
11/20/2008 09:46:00 PM
Not whiny 25 years on and still 9161 don't be a jagoff you make more cash than we do anyway!
...You must be Soft or a Troll. If you think the Dept did what they did to take care of D1 you are nuts. It is a money decision. Also, it helps cause distention among the ranks which is something that benefits the city.
...sorry Detective "super-star", many of our case reports are in relation to cite a(n) amount of "dissension", that is, a misuse of a "t", ha -ha, you may have missed that one in '04 when you you made your promotion....
Not whiny 25 years on and still 9161 don't be a jagoff you make more cash than we do anyway!
11/20/2008 11:03:00 PM
Don't hate the players bro,hate the game.With 25 years on,you of all people should know what it was like before.For those that fell between the cracks,or their chinaman took care of them,let it go.You've been around to long to know it's not for real.If your a patrolman,no matter what your paygrade is,the contract says it goes to those with seniority.I worked each and every one of the projects when they were still standing,on my 1st day off after working 6 at straight time.I had a family to feed,etc,as I'm sure you do.
I never begrudged the detective,ET,FI,or whatever working next to me on their days off because they made a few more bucks than I did.We were,and still are,in the same boat.Just trying to make ends meet,because the midget JAGOFF we have for a mayor,would'nt give us a decent living wage if his life depended on it.CPD/CFD are not his friends,and he knows it.
30+with less than a month left,stay safe!
12:52
The Lt's test is only defensible in the democratically controlled Cook County court system.
Time for a buy out. With a buy out many problems could be swept away.
The toll road money is gone.Poor investments by Daly have depleted his stash of cash.
Anonymous said...
...You must be Soft or a Troll. If you think the Dept did what they did to take care of D1 you are nuts. It is a money decision. Also, it helps cause distention among the ranks which is something that benefits the city.
...sorry Detective "super-star", many of our case reports are in relation to cite a(n) amount of "dissension", that is, a misuse of a "t", ha -ha, you may have missed that one in '04 when you you made your promotion....
11/20/2008 11:38:00 PM
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That is your response? To point out a spelling error? You should re-read your post before slamming somebody else. I'll let you find your error because you are so smart.
Look we went from 14.500 in 1992 to 8,200 in 2008...lies lies lies...look it up
Wrong! I just looked it up last week title code 9161 has 9900 members. If you would look the Shit up instead of just reading the crap on this blog you would know that. There is 1300 Sgt. 1100 Det, 230 Lt, add up the exempts and all the other title codes and you get close to the 13000 they always talk about. All this is available on the Department Internet but you probably don’t know how to use it. You hear something from someone on this site who doesn't know what the hell they are talking about the next thing you know its gospel. You need to quit crying and be thankful for the job YOU have. Granted it’s not a perfect one but it’s the one you picked. There are a lot of people who are not as fortunate as we are.
LEAP OF FAITH:
SHOULD BE LEAP OF LEMMINGS.....
HATER said...
WAIT TILL THE GET RID OF FELONY REVIEW AND THEN CUT ALL OVERTIME!
RELEASE WITHOUT CHARGING WILL B VERY COMMON.
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Felony Review does not, repeat does not approve charges unless it is tried over the phone by the ASA who just graduated from John Marshall. You have to gently apprize them of the statutes that are appropriate and they "will get back to you", with a decline.
If I were a criminal, I would only do my devious acts in Cook County because I will get away with it thanks to our wonderful "justice" system we have. Good for the bad guy, bad for the victim.
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