Retired Sgt KB - 003
From the comments:
- To the officers who sent the photos to the Sun-times and to SCC for putting the story on the front of the blog instead of leaving it in the comment section shame on you.
Huh? What have you been smoking Sparky?
- While watching the press conference with Dugan and Jackson the reporters were asking questions they could have only gotten from this blog. This 14 yr old tried this in several other districts and has fine tuned his act and finally got away with actually getting in a squad car. Why was no one alerted with a city wide bulletin?
Why don't we ask someone? Don't officers deserve some kind of safety net from those who are supposed to "have their backs" as the Superintendent so blithely stated a week ago? Or are we just going to take Monique's word that he never had contact with the public, didn't drive the car, didn't write tickets? The number of dropped balls on this one is incredible.
- Anyone can get in any station.
That would seem to be a problem then.
- You have plainclothes officers who dress worse than street thugs and have the tattoos to match. Are you so ashamed of your star that you never wear it? Granted the old stars were better, but it doesn't matter. I always wore my star with pride, I earned it. Anyone that does not wear an ID card needs to be challenged and if they are insulted that you don't know them shame on them, too.
Then that would put the blame on the sergeants, lieutenants, captains, inspectors, and assorted brass, wouldn't it? What's your point here?
- If you SCC had left the story buried in the comments section and not posted on the lead page, I truly believe this would not be the lead story everywhere. You have ruined a W/C's good career and yes he is one of the best.
Then you are high. Or drunk. By the time we posted it, there were 20 comments about it in the comment sections. By the time we hit roll call, the arrest report was already in the Captain's hands and he said he got 43 Blackberry messages about it. This one wasn't staying quiet, not by a long shot.
- The Sgt. messed up by not actually checking on the car and instead I am sure used his PDT or the radio to log the car. You can actually put no contact on a log when you don't see the car and that can happen.
We're sure that goes over real well with the Captain. In this day and age of GPS everywhere, your log better match the readout. False Official Reports and all that. You want a list of sergeants at Callback right now for that exact charge?
- The PO in the car - I feel most sorry for her. I can tell you that sometimes you work with someone for 8 hours and they never talk and it is not her responsibility to check his ID or star and in the winter you cannot see everyone's gun.
We haven't blamed her. The comments have been a bit touchy, but we reserve judgment on that one. It's winter, things get covered. We're glad it didn't turn out badly.
- Anything about this job can be learned here in black and white on this blog. You can pick up the latest rumors, who gets transferred, what bosses suck, which bosses are good.
Wrong on most of those accounts.
- You have truly done a disservice this time SCC. I hope you are proud of yourself and this blog.
So you're one of those bosses that never believed sunlight was the best disinfectant? You believed in covering up the wrong doing, sweeping illegal conduct under the carpet, letting those who were "born to command" get away with murder and outright theft while everyone else had to play by the rules? Wow, we can smell the "merit" from way over here.
- I for one will only check to see if you have the guts to publish this and then I will never view this blog again and yes I will give a clue to who I am.
Retired Sgt. KB from 003
We'll, we had the guts. Hope you have a nice retirement. It's obvious that we can't respect your service based on your interpretation of covering up wrongdoing. We won't miss your visit.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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ALOT OF PEOPL THINK BULLSHIT SHOULD BE COVERED UP?
THE NEXT TIME U HAVE A CALL DEALING WITH AN OFFICER TRY AND COVER IT UP! U KNOW U WOULDNT U WOULD CALL UR SGT AND MAKE HIM THE FALL GUY!
SO SCC BRINGS TO LIGHT ALL R FUCK UP OH WELL!
JUST REMEMBER IF U DONT HAVE DIRT ON A BIGGER FISH U R ON THE HOOK!
Hey Retired sgt from 003. Shut the fuck up. Im sure you would have caught the 14 year old yourself. Its not S.C.C fault that they have done nothing but print the truth on this matter. Take your Retarded, Im sorry retired ass back to your nursing home and change your smelly ass diaper.... Asshat
Kb? is that SGT Kissing Balls
I'm starting to agree with this posting SCC. I doubt you will let this one post, but I think you are actually against the working police and do more harm than good. This blog at one time use to be informative, now it is just another version of the Sun Times. You should be embarrassed SCC. This site use to be for the working police know it is just for a bunch of lazy ass wagon guys and and do nothing officers to bunch and whine. Be a man and post some negative comments about you for once SCC. Doubt you have the balls to do that.
And to any comments, yes I'm a veteran and working PO so don't give me your smart ass comments.
Be a man SCC!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what is so very wrong with the department. For so long they've been living with the concept "the APPEARANCE of propriety is more important than the actual propriety itself.
Yes, I will admit that 14yo on the cover of the Sun Times would appear to "fit in" with the norm, I don't think too many of us, having had no prior knowledge of this kids' goings-on previously would have called him on anything.
And there is NO NORM on a Dist level, as to how to handle calls or visitors asking for Commanders / W/C / or whomever. If you ask too many questions the Deputy Sup will chastise you faster than you can hang up the phone - indicating "You have to right to SCREEN my calls/visitors", etc.
But to BLAME SCC for these goings-on, and to somehow condemn them that this is of their doing is typical "smoke and mirrors and pointing the finger" sorta BS that is why the department is exactly where it is today.
Instead of needing to blame SOMEONE / ANYONE it need be addressed as to how to AVOID this in the future. It happened, learn from it, and implement change. Just like all Police work, don't over think it or second guess it, it was what it was NOW FIX IT!!!
The END>>>
I assume the reason he chose 3 is that even as a 14 year old civilian he knew how fucked up the 3rd district is. It is probably the worst district in this city in terms of a lot of dog ass do nothing coppers. That includes the field officers and just about all the inside people. WHERE DO YOU WORK STROKE??I'M SURE YOU NEVER MAKE MISTAKES;RIGHT??IT'S PEOPLE LIKE YOU,THE BACKSTABBING THAT MAKES THIS JOB I LOVE HARD TO DEAL WITH SOMETIMES..TO(RETIRED) SGT B;I AGREE WITH YOU 100%..CAPT. JOHNSON IS ONE OF THE FEW GOOD BOSSES AROUND..PS,I'LL SEE YOU AT MONTHLY C-GAME SOON...SIGNED WORKED FOR YOU AND CAPT JOHNSON AND PROUD OF IT!
I bet you are glad that you are retired now Sgt KB. Surely, you are glad that you were not at work on Saturday January 24,2009 as 310,320 or 330.
The sad thing is that the "police officer" (and I use that title loosely) drove around with this individual for 5 hours and could not tell that he was an impersonator. We get paid to be "trained observers", skeptical and to ask questions. 5 hours with this guy and she had no clue!!!! The sad thing thst this situation can be avoided by hiring those that love the job and love what they do. I've worked jobs before this and that was work! Give me a car, a tank of gas and tell me all I have to do is catch bad guys and I respond, you are gonna pay me for this? Some goof got the bright idea that the police department must resemble the community they serve. The problem is that those who resemble that community don't want to deal with their bullshit. That leaves us with the 10%ers. There are some that should be ashamed to walk around and say they are "the police". 90% of the pooice work is done by 10% of the police department.
Sgt KB doesn't sound very bright if he actually thinks that SCC caused this story to become so big.
Are you sure your initials are "KB" and not "BK" ; )
You two take a time out! Sgt. KB has valid points as do you SCC. I feel that for you to say that no one should respect KB'S service is just plain wrong, and mean spirited. Obviously KB was able to work long enough to retire and not get killed or fired. That alone is a great accomplishment that we all are striving for. Now as for the photos of the juvenile. There is no way in hell that I would purposely take a photo of a juvenile in lockup, let alone send it to a newspaper. I'm sure that taking that photo of a juvenile is a violation of some general order somewhere. So not only are we going to have coppers and maybe bosses getting days for the kid cop, we have fellow officers violating G/Os by taking pictures of a juvenile and sending out his images. We all know the game. The kid's mother was going to tell the media, blame the Police, and sue the department anyway as soon as she got the call that her son was locked up. There was no way that this event was not going to be on the news. It's just too bad that there are some cops willing to go so far to help those that only wish to harm us all. That photo should not have been taken.
I am from TRU and I have to admit I agree with this retired SGT... I been in 003 many times and the W/C at question is one of the best the city has... i think the problem lies in with inexperienced officers working the desk and radio room who our favorites. maybe things would had been different if a vet saw this kid first and knew better. i have 7 years on and when i was in a district it was always experience at the desk and not who is cute or lazy or scared to be on the street. lets start within the district out and earn spots. there's too much freedom just like how outside units, and yes my team does this, take over offices and act like we run the place. i would never walk into the tact office as a beat car when i was in 006 just b/c its not my office. the younger generation made this job worse and the cockiness of a 2-3 year vet needs to check themself and earn respect.
As a former P.O. who worked under Sgt. KB in 003, I could not agree more with her comments. This site seems to harm the CPD more than it helps, fueling the fire for numerous media outlets, leaking information detrimental to our deparment. Somethings should be kept within house, fuck the media, they should have to do their own investigating, instead they come onto this site and can get all the inside information they need to damage this department even more. I put part of the blame on SCC blog for allowing everyone on the outside into the police culture.
As for the photo taken inside the
3rd district police station, everyone and thier mothers from
3rd watch came into the tactical office that night snapping pictures with their camera phones of this kid. To send that picture to other people is just plain stupid, espically since he's a juvenile. You will get what you deserve once it's traced back to you!! I hear Blago is gonna need a cell mate in the Federal Pen.
She's gone from the job and we still have to hear her unsolicited opinion. She ALWAYS gave those freely. Shut up already Karen!
This retired Sgt and his attitude is 99% of the problem. The city, mayor and the media don't take blue shirts and their complaints about the department seriously. Until the sgt's and Lt's who have a little more credibility than us start speaking up about working conditions to the powers that be nothing will change. Oh that's right they wouldn't dare give up the merit spot, unit or that nice 2nd watch spot to help change the direction of the department. Could you imagine what would happen if the sgt's and Lt's union gave a press conference about what deplorable working conditions of the CPD. It would be world news and shit would start to change.
Thank God you are retired Sgt. I'm sad to know you were ever on the job. Does your Clout know you talk like this ?
SCC hasn't ruined anyone's reputation. The so-called leaders on this department need no help doing that; they're adept at it. What they need help with is getting to those positions BECAUSE they're such fucking idiots. And unfortunately, the stuttering prick, J-Fed, Alderfucks, and Rev-unds make it all too easy for them to get into those positions of leadership for which they are SO VERY UNQUALIFIED.
Thank God you're retired, Sgt. KB. You must have been a real stroke while you were on the job.
Right on target, SCC!
The truth hurts some people but oh well!
Let the shit fall where they may!
Let it start with a Stupervisor dumping! Most are out to get the P.O.'s fucked over whenever possible but only this time this strictly falls under poor supervision!
Sgt.'s like "retired Sgt. KB -003" how many guys you let get buried for the sake of the boss. That's why 003 is fucked up.
Isn't this the place where an armed Offender walked in and shot up the desk a few months back?
And this place security is still a joke after that incident!
003 District has shittier security then your local greazy Rib shack with bullet proof windows!
I feel safer in the Rib joint on the Southside then any Police station!
hey SCC, I believe that the retired sgt. is correct in saying that the way you over-publicized this was wrong.
Errors were made and disciplinary actions would have been taken, but it should have been done internally. Now, this will mean the end to some great bosses and just good people overall.
And what bothers me the most is how you seem to enjoy spreading this embarassing story when our dept. is doing as bad as it is. We understand that the "merit" subject is probably your biggest gripe about this job and that you obviously have no clout but believe it or not most merit bosses actually deserve it. Most of the shit "merit" bosses are sent to the districts although there are some good ones in districts. But any other unit in this city has incredible bosses, most of which are meritorious. Get out of the districts and you would find out. So quit whining about that. Every bad boss I've had in my career have been book-worm house mouses who worked a week in the street and then straight to the desk, tested well, and became boss.
SCC, do you enjoy finding every single fault within this department and bringing it into the public's eye? One of the main reasons why this Dept. seems to have gone down the drain is because everything that used to be taken care of internally (or swept under the rug, as you call it) is not being done anymore and is being brought into the public spotlight by people like you (SCC).
Believe it or not, there are still some bad ass old school coppers in this city who are out there locking bad people up. Day after day, while you are sitting behind your computer 10 hours a day spreading bad news, bullshit rumors, and conspiracies, there are real police out there who do their job because they are supposed to.
You probably wont post this comment because it goes against your agenda. POST THIS.
if everyone could see the transfer order this wouldn't happen!!!!!!!!
he's right on some stuff. you were wrong and you dont see it
Sarge, I hope when Im retired(hicup), Im sipping highballs while reading this blog and laughing my ass off. If your "recovering" please start drinking again. Im sure you were alot more fun buzzed.
SIGNED:SCUMBAG UNCLOUTED FB
HOLY FUCK KB, BITCH BATMAN!
HES my bitch now ex-sgt.
Fuck favors for A-holes, politicians and merit whores.
it is assholes like KB who gave us J-pud
Was your retirement party held in a phone booth?
Hey Sarge,
I understand how you feel. I got a call at 3AM and my only concern was if Capt KJ going to take the hit for this. Regardless if SSC posted it or not, it was going to hit the airwaves to emberass Weis and the Mayor. If Capt KJ has to retire over this incident, it will be a very sad way to go out after all he has done for so many. Enjoy retirement, baseball season is around the corner.
Good riddance KB from 003, you sound like a perfect fit for that piece of shit district!!
Well done on this thread SCC!!!!!
The internet and free speech are this country's greatest assets.
You knocked the ball out of the park with some of your responses!!!
This blog and it comments for the most part show the pulse of this department (there are always a few comments that are racist or ridiculous). The media surfs this site when something big is brewing or a full blown shitstorm is hitting us in the face. Let them look, I have nothing to hide.
The media are hacks who don't give a rats ass about any of us. They are gutter trash who only care about watching good people fall. Look at what happened to Cozzi. Cozzi was and still is a good man. Little Ricky Guerrero should and would be in the state pen if he wasn't so politically connected. The media didn't go after him. The mayor didn't give the nod.
Da Mayor controls the media. The Mayor is teflon Don. Nothing sticks to him. The media in this city know where their next meal is coming from. The media never bites the hands that feed them.
The drive by media can make fun of us and add as much flare to the circus as they want. The media is the number #1 problem in this city, county, state, and country.
Keep up the work SCC! SCC is more of a reporter/investigator than 95% of the print and tv media.
As a police wife, I am thankful SCC posted this. I am sick and tired of my husband and other officers justifying the horrible conditions they work in. Loving the job is the price some have paid for with their life. As far as saying the media would not of picked up on it if it was not at the top of the blog, you are wrong. The media clearly takes things from the comments section all the time. I have written to SCC before telling him/her that he should post random rumors on here and see what fool reporter actually does a story on it just to prove they steal SCC material. Scc, as a police wife I am requesting that you move the Child Labor in 3 article back to the top of the blog for another say in case someone just got back from Siberia and missed it. Let's not let this topic die down. Please move it back to the top. Also I think officers should start taking pictures of all the violations and post them. Take pictures of the horrible buildings you all work in, the squad cars that are falling appart, the open drawers with sensitive files, the bums in the lobby. It's time you all police the violations of your employer. Let's make this incident worth something. Or should we wait for another officer to be killed by a bum?
Why cover this up? It wasnt covered up at the district level, it was covered up from a much higher level. City hall and 35th st.. Who in their right mind would believe the press conference coming from downtown? In the car 5 hours and didnt drive, or interact with people? Just shows that the press releases are not worth the film they are on.
Through the graciousness of Allah, we are watching your every move.
ALLAH AKBAR!
I hear enough bosses motherfuck SCC. They say that it is nothing but rumors and falsehoods. One LT went on an absolute tirade about the blog that I thought he was going to have a stroke.
GOOD FOR YOU, SCC!! You are not creating the damage this department has suffered. You are providing a forum to discuss it, comment on it and sometimes scoop the media on it.
No one in authority will admit to the department being fucked up. There ARE hundreds of boys and girls who do their job right and with skill. The same for a handful of bosses. However, like you, I believe these problems are rooted in the merit system of promotions and of moving connected or whiney blue shirts to dog ass positions.
Incompetence in the exempt ranks is rampant because of that phone call or the relative to someone with clout.
SCC, keep on doing what you are doing. If the bosses are getting pissed you know that you are striking a sensitve nerve. Also, if the things you say were false, then why are so many people with their undies in a bunch? This is a blog. If there is something false on here then it is the American way - look at the Sun Times with what they print as truth. Nothing false on here will injure anyone because it is simply false.
On the other hand, when you attest to the truth, and people don't like to hear the truth, they will piss and moan and fabricated some lie to hide the facts.
I have not agreed with everything SCC has posted, but I think you are more on target then not. When a poster just spews nonsense or rage, I skip reading it. But there are plenty of good posts that describes the facts and enlightens the world to the mess this city is in despite the Mayor's PR.
LISTEN MR. MAYOR: Keep up the enviornment of meritorious hires and promotions of your cronies and your distantly related cronies and you will get more of the same.
HEY J-FED: You don't know who you are promoting because you only have their word on a piece of paper called a "resume". You know nothing about these bosses as street cops. All you know is the fiction that they wrote. Lesson here to be learned is that if you are not the police you will be quite clueless as to how to promote cops and/or run a big city department.
The TRUTH isn't always pretty.
Hey SGT K.B -
I hate to say it...BUT... FUCK OFF!
You are in the wrong here! Not SCC, not the people who posted on the blog - just YOU!
Still working SGT EH.
You have ruined a W/C's good career and yes he is one of the best.
why is this w/c retiring ?
stick around and fight it.
Scc I can't believe these people that want to blame others for their bad decisions. what are you all mice. I was taught to be responsible for my actions.
MAN UP
KB is right.
We handed him the CPD lotto winner.
We gave birth to this monster where there was a semi decent shot at it being downplayed given the other clowns in the media circle.
Worst of all, it pains me to say..lil dick is right on this one.
So many of our own put foresight on the backend.
No question someone fucked up,but without being there, I could not say who or how many. But I do agree that conception began here.
Hey SCC, I just want to add my 2 cents to this unbelievable situation, I am glad I retired!! I did 25 yrs, and I'm glad I realized it was time to get outta shitcago. BUT, I, and I hope lots of others, retired or still on that shithole of job, really do appreciate this blog. I dont know who you are, but I feel that your knowlegde of certain sitiations leads me to believe that you actually work the streets, so just keep up the good work & hey sgt sb - shut the fuck up!!!
let's all remember.... YES WE CAN!
Off topic, and just a question.
Why do all you strokes in TRU start your posts off.... I WORK IN TRU, like we give two shits. Idiots!!
I bet you are glad that you are retired now Sgt KB. Surely, you are glad that you were not at work on Saturday January 24,2009 as 310,320 or 330.
1/29/2009 01:37:00 AM
OR EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS 301
I think alot of northside guys are sounding off and don't know that this wc is actually a friend to the working police.I can think of alot more deserving bosses that deserve this but he doesn't.SCC you need to end access to certain hot topics and use a password.Soon people will see that when all these common sense rational thinking bosses retire we are fucked.The media has been overtrolling with bullshit questions.Like who is burger queen,eb next they are gonna ask who the golden one is.
I do miss the r.r. jokes from the start of this circus.
Anonymous said...
As a police wife, I am thankful SCC posted this. I am sick and tired of my husband and other officers justifying the horrible conditions they work in. Loving the job is the price some have paid for with their life. As far as saying the media would not of picked up on it if it was not at the top of the blog, you are wrong. The media clearly takes things from the comments section all the time. I have written to SCC before telling him/her that he should post random rumors on here and see what fool reporter actually does a story on it just to prove they steal SCC material. Scc, as a police wife I am requesting that you move the Child Labor in 3 article back to the top of the blog for another say in case someone just got back from Siberia and missed it. Let's not let this topic die down. Please move it back to the top. Also I think officers should start taking pictures of all the violations and post them. Take pictures of the horrible buildings you all work in, the squad cars that are falling appart, the open drawers with sensitive files, the bums in the lobby. It's time you all police the violations of your employer. Let's make this incident worth something. Or should we wait for another officer to be killed by a bum?
1/29/2009 08:25:00 AM
Police wife I agree we should start taking pictures,but then if SCC decided to post them all it would take hours just to look at all of them! The city is going to shit as daley hoards money for "his" olympics! with daley and the 50 morons we have no future or do the tax payers of this shit city!
Hey KB you pussy, you only gave a clue to your identity because you are retired. If this cluster fuck stopped at the PO. level, you wouldn't bat an eye about it being a SCC headline. However seeing as there is no REAL way to pin all the blame on a PO you cry for the bosses.
Either the WC and ultimately the DC are responsible for their watch and districts, or they are not needed.
This being Chicago though, the blame always ends at the bottom. Mayor Dick (how should I know what everyone is doing) Daley set the rules for this back as States Atty.
So if all the bosses in003 burn so be it.
For all you DUMBASSES that say 003 is the shit hole of the city, wake up. There are dog asses in EVERY district, not just 003. No district is perfection:
1. There was a guy that walked into 001 years ago and tried to shoot a cop at the front desk. His gun jammed.
2. This kid cop was arrested for Police impersonation at ford city mall, and in the 002nd district. The 002nd district tact team were giving him a ride in a TACT CAR when they realized something was fishy. He was wearing a fake gun in a holster that time. What if that gun had been real? He was sitting BEHIND two Officers.
In my opinion, this kid realizes that everytime he impersonates, he gets better and better. One day this bastard wil try to breech headquarters or city hall. Can't some of you folks see that? He is doing nothing more than warming up for some big mission he's got in his head.
The WORKING Officers in 003, 004, 007, 011, 015, etc, all know that they work in some bad/crime ridden areas. That does not make the Officers stupid, it makes them noble. That is supposed to be the reason we signed up for this job. No district in this city is perfect. Morale in 003 will improve once the terrible commander leaves.
Some of the best Officers in the city trained in 003 and many are still there. Unless you've worked aggressively in a fast district for some time, sit down and shut the hell up.
This is the problem with the department in general...there are two sets of standards..one for the non clout PO and one for the anointed..the department is happy to cover up everything that points to the failure of the department as a whole...it is even happier to hold non clouted individuals accountable for their actions to give the illusion of transparency and accountability..its the Chicago way...
Way to go scc. Fuck you KB. I think a long overdue postive will come out of this embarassing fiasco. Thank God ole boy didn't have bad intentions. Keep up the good work scc and KB, please keep your promise and dont ever read this blog site again. In fact, it's free bonehead so go create you own blog site.
If you SCC had left the story buried in the comments section and not posted on the lead page, I truly believe this would not be the lead story everywhere.
.. surprised he doesn't work for a federal agency; can tell you from experience the federal govt's response to a problem is always to bury it; rename it; or blame it on the locals. LOL.
Here is another nugget of information about the wonderful and pillar of excellence we call the third district:
J-Fed witnesses a traffic accident in 003 and asks for a traffic crash witness statement. Guess what, NO ONE IN THE ENTIRE DISTRICT OR THE DESK HAD ONE which pissed him off big time.
Great work officers. As a retired P.O. I only wish we would have had SCC during my 30 years on the job. We had to sit back and let all the idiot bosses do as they pleased. Your at least attempting to make them accountable. Wow! Do we feel sorry for Dugan & Jackson because they were asked questions that should have been asked? Keep up the good work and be safe.
Off topic, and just a question.
Why do all you strokes in TRU start your posts off.... I WORK IN TRU, like we give two shits. Idiots!!
1/29/2009 09:45:00 AM
Because it annoys you and no i don't work in tru or a fillmore, englewood or anything inbetween ranger.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAA Slow down people. I know who KB is as Sgt., this person was always pro-police and never hurt anyone. However, this is a simple case of don't kill the messenger. I believe her statements are rooted in the fact the W/C in 003 is a good, respectable, Captain who deserves his spot. I think light should be cast upon this situtaion but not directed at any one person, but at the system as a whole. It is an indictment of the way the system works. Our stations have become too community friendly, the caliber of officer and sup. has declined, clout people move at will and show up everywhere at anytime without being on an order, and so on. I disagree with her that this she be on the down low, but I also disagree with those who bash her, and other retirees fior that matter, who merely want this deterioration of the department to end. Its hard to see 20or 30 years of your life invested in an organization become an embarrassment. DON'T KILL THE MESSENGER.
"Off topic, and just a question.
Why do all you strokes in TRU start your posts off.... I WORK IN TRU, like we give two shits. Idiots!!
1/29/2009 09:45:00 AM"
Truth in advertising?
In the last thread about station security, someone called upon me to "sound of". First let me start of by saying that when I heard of this incident, I was speechless, and then I found the humor in it and laughed my ass off for a couple of days.....this was the closest thing to a boost in my morale in far to long a time. Then I thought about it, really thought long and hard. a few of my thoughts were:
When I was in the Army, even during peace time, every company had 2 men on CQ in the company hq at a dest by the front and back doors. Every battalion had soldiers posted on duty at the front and rear doors, as did brigade, division, etc. I've been to most of the stations citywide for one reason or another, none of them had anyone posted at the rear doors, probably the weakest point in any of them.
I thought about why that was, and it comes back to a lack of manpower, how can you protect the fort when the troops are all out in the field?
Another thought that I think most of us can relate to, when was the last time you worked with a regular partner if you work south or west?
Out of a six day week when I was on 3rd watch in 003, I worked with my partners maybe 2 of those days and with some ppo or detail guy, etc those other 4. There was no real watch familiarity on the partner level, and you eventually just start seeing another guy in a blue uniform that you're working with today....the same with any district you might've been detailed to for a watch.
Whoever sent that pic to the times,
you just boned us all deeper and harder than Daley will ever be able to.
Sgt. B., I worked for you for a good while, the minute I got a call from someone that I hadn't heard from since I graduated the academy,
I knew that it was too late, the story was out, and that was well before the blog posting.
You guys blasting the W/C and Sgt KB, if only you knew, really. The W/C has always been stand up,backed his troops, given room to learn and
been patient in doing so, often taking it upon himself to answer questions. To get caught up on this thing.......
Sgt B., has also backed her troops, was a good boss to work for, stood behind whatever decision you made.
She treated you like an ADULT, like you were the POLICE, like you could be trusted to do what it was you were hired for, in working for so many sergeants, she is one of the BEST and GOD DAMN any of you who say otherwise without knowing her.
You're probably all the same mother fuckers who monday morning quarterback guys who had to go through the round table. Jokes are fine, they're to be expected, and often times appreciated, but you guys out here preaching about the "THIN BLUE LINE" and things were so different way back in the day, and we have no real leadership, fucking MAN UP, lead by example, show the rest of us how it should be if it was so great....there's still enough of you left, make a difference.
This whole thing has been a giant goatfuck, no doubt, an embarassment, a lesson, and in its own sad way, the necessarily catalyst to improve things if only just slightly. The basic idea of what happened last saturday, regardless of the details, is what the issue is, and what really needed to be addressed. "Let he who is among you, without sin, cast the first stone." I had a very wise partner who told me once, nobody in this world is perfect, the only guy who was, got nailed to a cross.
I've said my piece.
GRAND CROSSING GUNSLINGER
Could you imagine what would happen if the sgt's and Lt's union gave a press conference about what deplorable working conditions of the CPD. It would be world news and shit would start to change.
1/29/2009 04:02:00 AM
I'm a KMA member of this department and I can assure you that noboby, and I mean nobody will want me to speak because of the condemnation that will spew from my lips.
I have done this before and have suffered dumps, transfers, and censures. Someday; mark my words; I will speak to the detriment of alot of politicians and bosses. Dead and alive.
He's right.
This blog is not good for this department. It's not good for police officers either.
Just like the papers. It's everything bad, nothing good.
It's not good for your own morale to spend time reading what would otherwise be on a bathroom wall.
Time to put this blog away. It was fun for a little while, but enough is enough.
Once again....walk through the 3rd district and take inventory...most of the officers are do nothing pieces of shit that should be flipping burgers instead of wearing a badge. This city has to be one of the worst for this. Go to any other major police department and take a look. Bet you wont find the likes of what we got here wearing a uniform. Not only do we hire them, but then we promote them. Must be nice to never do anything on the job, unable to write a full sentence, talk jibberish, and get promoted all in one full swoop. Give me a fucking break! I know the public has no idea what they have in their police department. Stop fighting it...we have no control...let this department go where it is destined to go...down the tubes...gotta run, my bucket of tips is ready....when in Rome...
Anonymous said...
I hear enough bosses motherfuck SCC. They say that it is nothing but rumors and falsehoods. One LT went on an absolute tirade about the blog that I thought he was going to have a stroke.
Does the lt. work in 007 and his name rhymes with Ritzjerro?
He's one chocalate shake from the grave.
Hey SCC, great job ,you help put the light on what is one step away from FUBAR and in many respects, to cover a situation up or just to look the other way causing is the reason why things get out of hand.
If the powers to be want to hang a good guy out to dry, then it’s the assholes in the glass tower that are at fault.
As for the other comment about the poor copper that just didn’t notice something wasn’t right. Bullshit, if your that caught up in other thoughts, it could be much worse then embarrassment.
HP
This is a classic example of Kill the Messenger. Maybe instead of blaming a blog you should blame the people who are/were in charge.
Hi Chucky!
I am not a cop so I am not a trained observer;
I do not have kids and so I am not sure what a 14 yo looks like, acts like, etc;
but, I am certain that I would know an untrained child from a police officer if I spent 20 min with him much less 5 hrs! This entire story is bizarre!
Isn't this why crime is so out of control?
Before you get an atitute - you sould be a citizen and can no tell the police from the crooks -it is no fun I can tell you.
As a citizen, I complained of fake cops and no one listened - now everybody knows it is true
and I can't wait to see what is done about it
"I am not a cop so I am not a trained observer;
I do not have kids and so I am not sure what a 14 yo looks like, acts like, etc;
but, I am certain that I would know an untrained child from a police officer if I spent 20 min with him much less 5 hrs! This entire story is bizarre!
1/29/2009 04:20:00 PM"
So, you first establish what you are not and, thus, what you are incapable of doing, then you proceed to assert that you would be able to do the very thing you've just admitted you're incapable of doing.
You must be on the city payroll.
"Time to put this blog away. It was fun for a little while, but enough is enough.
1/29/2009 03:24:00 PM"
Is that a threat, boss?
"Someday; mark my words; I will speak to the detriment of alot of politicians and bosses. Dead and alive.
1/29/2009 03:21:00 PM"
Today is someday.
So will tomorrow be.
How long we gonna hafta wait?
"One day this bastard wil try to breech headquarters or city hall. Can't some of you folks see that? He is doing nothing more than warming up for some big mission he's got in his head.
1/29/2009 11:04:00 AM"
I'd be overjoyed if the kid 'breached' city hall; maybe he'd overhear some things and not be shy about sharing them with the rest of us common citizens.
Hell, this kid, at 14 years of age, has more potential as an investigative reporter than any of the whore media would know what to do with.
Time to put this blog away. It was fun for a little while, but enough is enough.
1/29/2009 03:24:00 PM
bye im sure you will be missed!!! lol
"Police wife I agree we should start taking pictures,but then if SCC decided to post them all it would take hours just to look at all of them! The city is going to shit as daley hoards money for "his" olympics! with daley and the 50 morons we have no future or do the tax payers of this shit city!
1/29/2009 10:41:00 AM"
Post them as a linked '.rar' file.
Within days, they'd be downloaded by millions worldwide.
Multiple millions.
And if one were to produce videos, the possibilities expand exponentially.
The authentic 'reality tv'.
Karen
You lost your mind, you forget where you came from, thank god for SCC, we can finally tell the truth about this
corrupt merit department and the useless women like you on it.
A male chauvinist who knows you well
OK, someone has to say it, "Never judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoe." When this whole thing blows over (And it will) I would like to see this female officer working and enjoying life and her family.
And for everyone that says "I would have known in the first 2 minutes that he was 14 and playing the police, you are Monday morning quarterbacking at best.
To the officer that worked with the 14 year old, keep your head up; THIS TOO SHALL PASS.
AREA ONE DET DIV. YEARS AGO...
CON TAKEN OUT BY DIK TO ANSWER STUFF OFF MURDER BEEF...IN AREA HQ CON DISARMS DIK AND SHOOTS AT HIM..
TYPING REPORT DIKS SHOOT BAD GUY WHO ACTUALLY KILLS SELF IN HOMICIDE LT'S OFFICE!!!!!!bOSSES RESPONSE: IT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED...IT IS WHAT THE PUBLIC THOUGHT WHAT HAPPENED..DIKS GET TOSSED TO WOLVES...INSTEAD OF LAMBERT TREE...THEY GET CRS AND NOTHING FOR SAVING A FELLOW OFFICER LIFE!!!!! DO NOT WORK FOR JAGOFF BOSSES....
Thank God you are retired Sgt. I'm sad to know you were ever on the job. Does your Clout know you talk like this ?
1/29/2009 04:21:00 AM
This is just idiotic!!! The guy was a Sgt. in 003. I don't think he had clout. Quit using that term so freely!!!
SCC,
What was that?
Who the hell is Sgt KB to challenge your "guts"?
I respect your decision to stand up for yourself, but remember, you have nothing to prove Sgt KB. I think he is awefully arrogant to imply that u should prove yourself.
Like I said, I respect your decision, but I would have ignored the disrespectful Sgt.
Oh and Sgt KB...thanks to the idiots in the 3rd district, I'm no longer afraid to admit I work in 009.
To: 0525pm
Gee, is this retired Sgt Karen B?
Now you can go fuck yourself Karen. The first post was enough. Now you write and pretend to be one of scc's posters?
I love how u keep challenging scc... "post it!"
You are an idiot Sgt.
Also, I have a theory everyone..... One of the homeless took the photo. God knows they roam our stations!
Sgt kb, you made your point, now go away.
To: 1: 49 PM
I appreciate u sticking up for a friend, but Sgt in 003 should not have gone balls out for scc's throat!
Also, I disagree that the captain does such a great job. What a great job!!! Good thing this kid didn't go columbine on 003 or blowit up!
Something was wrong there. Maybe he's a cool guy or a nice guy, but his job is to run the watch.
Sorry.
HAD A KID STEAL A SQUAD OUT OF MOTOR MAINT. IN AREA ONE..HE MAKES TRAFFIC STOPS...THEN TAKES MARS LIGHTS BAR OFF AND PUTS MAGS ON THE POLICE WHEELS...NO SHIT!!!!....tac guys see car and sit on it even though vin says no steal...(motor main hid the paper) how do i know??? he TOLD ME after getting caught doing a string of robberies in 008...THIS SHIT IS NOTHING NEW...INCOMPETENCE IS THE FUCKING NORM AROUND CHICAGO....
As an Old Ghetto Gladiator from 002 in the early 1970's, I must say that when the 002 District opened we had a minimum of two P/Os (old timers) assigned to STATION SECURITY per watch. These Officers would check all the entrance points all shift, and would monitor all the Bums/informants (for the old District Vice Guys) that lived in the lobby of the deuce. I later moved to the old Gresham District, 006, at 85th Green and was standing roll call at 0700 when a asshole woke up mad at the world that his car was stolen, and came into the station and began shooting no (fatalities thank God) now we have no man power for station security. if we assigned two P/Os to station security per shift, had swipe machines to get in, for all CPD personnel and were REQUIRED to wear the Star when in Uniform and ID if in Civilian dress, and CHALLENGED anyone we dont know without retribution from bosses, who get their backs up if in Civilian Dress and are challenged, it would be a good start.
Still working and still proud CPD. Remember just as everything else in life , This Too Shall Pass. So, Hold your head up, stay safe, and watch those hands.
Just an Old Gresham Ranger
As for the photo taken inside the
3rd district police station, everyone and thier mothers from
3rd watch came into the tactical office that night snapping pictures with their camera phones of this kid. To send that picture to other people is just plain stupid, espically since he's a juvenile. You will get what you deserve once it's traced back to you!! I hear Blago is gonna need a cell mate in the Federal Pen.
1/29/2009 03:17:00 AM
damn dont rob a bank with the one!!!!
YEAH, YEAH, YEAH! Sure Mr/Mrs Citzen. You would have spotted the kid in a minute. Well maybe you would and maybe you wouldn't. Who the fuck cares, or knows.
I have seen recent recruits come on this job who look like they should be curfewed or be a truant, depending on the time of day. A couple of them look like they are 15 - 18 years old. I saw one of them go to a bar, flash his button and the bouncer did not want to believe that the baby face kid was a cop.
SOoooo, it is conceivable to get away with it on the looks. As for the kid knowing police speak, I recently went on a domestic and the mother fucking bustout tells me, "C'mon man. This is bullshit. This is nothing but a 19 Paul." I was fucking laughing my ass off. I ask him how did he know that, he said he gets arounz.
At any rate, the issue is greater then what the 14yo got away with.
SSC, your blog gets to those issues.
I have to say that as a working P.O. who had the misery of working in 003 Sgt. KB was a great boss who had your back and her service should be respected!! She looked out for the working police as did the w/c on 3rd watch there. Sgt. KB was solid you could count on her to back you.
The sad thing is that the "police officer" (and I use that title loosely) drove around with this individual for 5 hours and could not tell that he was an impersonator. We get paid to be "trained observers", skeptical and to ask questions. 5 hours with this guy and she had no clue!!!! The sad thing thst this situation can be avoided by hiring those that love the job and love what they do. I've worked jobs before this and that was work! Give me a car, a tank of gas and tell me all I have to do is catch bad guys and I respond, you are gonna pay me for this? Some goof got the bright idea that the police department must resemble the community they serve. The problem is that those who resemble that community don't want to deal with their bullshit. That leaves us with the 10%ers. There are some that should be ashamed to walk around and say they are "the police". 90% of the pooice work is done by 10% of the police department.
1/29/2009 02:07:00 AM
it's not the officers fault. if the Sgt,watch-commander or capt tell me to get in a car and work with a purple dinosaur I would do it.
Anonymous said...
Here is another nugget of information about the wonderful and pillar of excellence we call the third district:
J-Fed witnesses a traffic accident in 003 and asks for a traffic crash witness statement. Guess what, NO ONE IN THE ENTIRE DISTRICT OR THE DESK HAD ONE which pissed him off big time.
1/29/2009 11:28:00 AM
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They're online....
Just because you are assigned to a "fast" dist does not make you a better cop or better sgt. you are just a person who can not get out.
Right or wrong, at least this Sgt had the balls to identify herself.
Don't fret you little Italian Leperchaun the boys in your old Area support you. Just quit pissing in the sink!
I HOPE THE PRESS IS READING SCC! IT'S THE ONLY PLACE THEY'LL GET SOMETHING CLOSE TO THE TRUTH.
HOW ABOUT THAT A. MGR. AT THE ACADEMY SCAMMING THE CITY FOR YEARS WITH THE HELP OF HER DAD'S OLD ADS FRIEND IN FINANCE? "WORKING FROM HOME" AND CARRIED ON THE A&AS WITH BLESSINGS FROM THE FRONT OFFICE. FELONY THEFT. SHIT DON'T STICK TO SLIME. ONLY THE MEDIA CAN SHED LIGHT ON CRAP LIKE THIS.
Right or wrong, at least this Sgt had the balls to identify herself.
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As a retiree with initials only. Wow, a real Captain Courageous move there. And she thinks she ought to stick up for the bosses even though every single rule, regulation and order states it's "their" building. Profiles in courage.
One thing that this incident immediately brought to mind was the dept is understaffed and the districts are so desperate for officers that when any personnel is assigned, even temporarily, they happily and gratefully, throw them in a car and mark the A&A's.
I'm also retired and I could never work under the conditions that officers are being forced to work under today. SCC is providing a greatly needed voice for them that they otherwise wouldn't have. We don't have to like it, Ret'd Sgt. I don't think anyone really gives a shit.
Fuck that Captain! That job was bought and paid for! Earning well over 100G's and can't check the credentials of an officer coming into the station that nobody know's?????? One question, Whats your employee#? would have changed the day. That's keeping a blind eye to the fact that an officer came to work w/o a weapon, star or ID. How come anytime came to work in any district I ever worked in without a pen, or wore the wrong color socks, forgot their DL, etc we got sent home for equiptment and had to give up a slip for an hour???????? What the fuck? There were only about 5 Captains in the whole city then and they took a fucking test back then!!!!!!! Fuck that captain. Demote him/her back to whatever LEGITimate rank he ever held.
KB's clout went to the Federal Pen today. Bye Fast Eddie!!! Let's have coffee Detrimenter!
"How come anytime came to work in any district I ever worked in without a pen, or wore the wrong color socks, forgot their DL, etc we got sent home for equiptment and had to give up a slip for an hour????"
Shit, you should have worked with me in the 018 CAPS office a few years back. No slips needed, baby. The "I forgot my gun at home (again), boss" was good for a dozen road trips a year on the company dime. Trust me, it made the four-hour days and Sa/Sun D.O.G. bearable.
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