Step #1
We've been reading about suburban stations and out-of-state police facilities and it's amazing how similar the descriptions are of how they run their operations. They don't have homeless bums wandering about. Their doors lock. The building is adequately supplied with power, computers, furniture, etc. Everything a professional department might need, near at hand.
Obviously, the city isn't going to build us 25 state of the art facilities. They can't even build a Headquarters on the square and level (see the sagging floors and walls). But there are things that can be done that might restore some measure of security and professionalism to a Department just going through the motions.
Secure the stations.
That means the doors, windows, elevators and parking areas. All those old "facility inspection" reports that listed the faults that never got repaired? Repair the problems, close out the reports.
We aren't a social service and we shouldn't be pretending to be one. Homeless people shouldn't be wandering the lobbies, hallway, where ever. This "touchy-feely" crap has to stop. No one gets to sleep in the station - no more "warming centers." Set up a regular pick up time for Human Services and get these people gone. As many have said, it's a safety issue, it's a health issue and it's a morale issue.
A million stand-up roll calls and Inspectors coming to hammer the troops isn't going to improve morale or encourage officers to take pride in their service. But actually coming to work and not having to smell month-old dead ass, unwashed feet and infected festering sores might work a little more enjoyable for the people inside the station.
Obviously, the city isn't going to build us 25 state of the art facilities. They can't even build a Headquarters on the square and level (see the sagging floors and walls). But there are things that can be done that might restore some measure of security and professionalism to a Department just going through the motions.
Secure the stations.
That means the doors, windows, elevators and parking areas. All those old "facility inspection" reports that listed the faults that never got repaired? Repair the problems, close out the reports.
We aren't a social service and we shouldn't be pretending to be one. Homeless people shouldn't be wandering the lobbies, hallway, where ever. This "touchy-feely" crap has to stop. No one gets to sleep in the station - no more "warming centers." Set up a regular pick up time for Human Services and get these people gone. As many have said, it's a safety issue, it's a health issue and it's a morale issue.
A million stand-up roll calls and Inspectors coming to hammer the troops isn't going to improve morale or encourage officers to take pride in their service. But actually coming to work and not having to smell month-old dead ass, unwashed feet and infected festering sores might work a little more enjoyable for the people inside the station.
Labels: safety issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
231 Comments:
This problem began with being community friendly and the CAPS b/s. SCREW the community. I say lock the doors at the stations,have 311 do reports over the phone, and let the CAPS meeting be held at the local Church's Chicken parking lot where they belong.Im tired of having to be politically correct.
Amen Scc! This subject of "non" station security has been a really bad problem in my 20 years on.
All the troops bitch about it but no white shirts seem to give a shit, including commanders of districts. They only do something (bare minimum) as a reactive measure after something happens. One of these days it will be a copper getting hurt or killed because of the terrible security issues at hand.
Newsflash to all you cadets& westwood college wunderkids working the desk. Challenging a middle age white guy wearing a shirt & tie that's already been in the station for an hour & half using the desk phone to contact felony review doesn't fulfill your obligation for station security. MORONS !!
You ever been in the lobby of Area 1 (002 Dist). I swear it is a homeless shelter. The smell is overwhelming!! The desk crew needs to get T.B. tests and send the bums to a shelter.
"infected festering sores"
NICE!
When I was in the Mighty Deuce back in 01-02, the Commander; (MP) forced us to let the "homeless" sleep in the lobby at 51st and Wentworth overnight. The desk crew was forced to light incense sticks along the desk in an attempt to block out the very strong smell of ass and feet.
AHHHH....Memories !!
Sarge "Big Daddy" back in 024 !
Off Topic:
French parking meters that call the police when your time’s up
Friday, January 09, 2009
parkingmeter
What’s better than when the local municipality uses hi-tech against you? It’s all the rage in France, where parking meters are ruining people’s lives by calling the cops when time expires. So, instead of paying €2 for parking all of a sudden you’re whipping out your checkbook to the tune of €100 for overstaying the meter by four seconds. That’s good.
The tech here was developed by a company named Technolia. It’s raison d’etre is to create these little parking meters with a direct phone line to the police station. Overstay your welcome in the parking space by a minute and la police come a-knockin’.
I wonder how long till Mayor “Cut Services, Raise Taxes” Bloomberg hears about this.
Don't ever forget that it was one of these station bums that killed Rich Francis.
Ms Bond was quoted as saying CPD needs to wear their stars all the time to identify. Does anybody else agree that the new star looks fake anyway with half the fucking black number and letter engravings missing? I mean I am embarrassed to show people especially other law enforcement officers what it even looks like when they ask. In conclusion,
Step #1...FIX THE FUCKING THING THAT SYMBOLIZES A CHICAGO POLICE OFFICER THE MOST....THE FUCKING STAR....thats it thanks.
DHS is just a no-show job. G/L getting them to come around regularly!
You are absolutely correct SCC, regarding the homeless sleeping in the station being a health issue. It is alarming the number of patients now being admitted to the hospital that are testing positive for TB. These patients are immediately placed in an isolation room and we are required to wear protective clothing, gloves and masks. Since TB is an air-born illness and can be spread whenever someone coughs, sneezes or spits, everyone within the facility is at risk of exposure. Not only is the health of the employees being put at risk, but also family members and the community as well.
How right you are, SCC. Now try telling these facts to a few of the liberal supervisors here in a certain West Side district. One or two of these bleeding-hearts claim it's inhumane to kick the pissbums out of the lobby.
Nevermind that every copper working in or passing thru has to ingest the months-old funk, disease and dander that eminates from these dope-addicted, mentally-perturbed, unwashed, unkempt pillars of the community.
Disregard the fact that there's absolutley no clean air supply or airflow of any sort being pumped into the station to help circulate the stagnant, stale air.
Don't give a second thought as to why coppers working inside are chronically sick (especially in the winter months) when there's a minimum of a dozen homeless motherfuckers lounging about the floor of the lobby for hours and hours at a time waiting for the closest shelter to open it's doors to them.
Don't fret the fact that you're bringing home untold amounts of disease, sickness and infectious airborne pathogens to your wife and kids, courtesy of the HIV-positive, crack-addicted vagrants that semi-permanently inhabit the lobby just feet from where some of us work for 8 hours a day.
And on top of all this, please don't take personally the death stares some of the aforementioned dregs of humanity give you when you ask them to pipe-down so you can render official police service to the very few legitimate tax-payers that find their way into the lobby.
Our current feel-good method of policing since the inception of CAPS is a miserable failure and needs to be scrapped immediately. Ultra-liberal, college educated boobs on this job only perpetuates this dismal reality.
Officer safety and health is paramount - not something that takes the backburner to West Side kids having enough basketball rims or whether the homeless have a warm police station lobby in which to crash and bathrooms in which to get high. Last time I checked, there's an abundance of homeless shelters and Human Services to accomodate these services and requests.
Sorry for the rant SCC, but this type of shit has got to stop, regardless of how trivial it might seem to some people. Afterall, instances like these build complacency. And complacency gets coppers hurt or killed.
Take a look at the way the new stations, such as 10,16,18 or 20. The design has been compared to the Alamo, another place that was built as a mission but as a fort was not successfully defended. Unsecured parking, all that glass, bullshit artwork, security systems that don't work, CCTV systems that nobody knows how to work. With all that glass, how could you defend that building in the event of a major civil disturbance?
More thought was given to the landscaping than the safety of the personnel and the security of our personal property.
I was detailed to the Third Dist for a while. Let me tell you, that desk crew COULDN'T GIVE A FUCK! You could not PAY them to care less. They put the D in de-policing. I asked one of them so I could get a radio. She barely looking up at me from reading her magazine to tell me to get the key myself. She had no idea who I was. I went behind the desk and started to open draws til I found it. I could have walked off with every last radio and they never would have known! It got so bad that the Cmdr had to put something in the CO book admonishing the whole crew for ignoring civilian walk ins. This whole thing with the kid does not surprise me AT ALL!!!!
LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING STATIONS:002, 003, 004, 005, 007, 011, 012, 013, 014, 019, 021, 023, 024, 025 ---LOOK HOW EASY IT WOULD BE FOR A PRISONER TO ESCAPE OR FOR SOMEONE (NON-POLICE) TO GET INTO THE "PROCESSING AREA". IT'S A SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE FOR US. I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT WE SHOULD BE THANKING THAT 14 YR OLD KID FOR GIVING US INTERNATIONAL EMBARASSMENT ON HOW UNSECURE WE REALLY ARE.
And what about the PO's who refuse to have a female arrestee searched before she is brought into processing and has been there for 30 mins or more before they ask for a search.
There are more safety issues that need be disclosed.
The TRU Unit has a state of the art modern police facility on Pershing Road with a working elevator!
Anonymous said...
I love my job, but in my 23 years, this is the most disgraceful incident I recall. For all you pretenders collecting a check, this is the type of incident that will continue to happen because so many of you have blinders on and are cowards. For the real police, God bless you.
1/26/2009 10:49:00 AM
There are numerous incidents in the CPD that are just as disgraceful. How about what J-Fed did to Cozzie for giving a piss bumb a few cracks. And now he's looking at time!
I hope someone high up in the Olympic organization sees this and says "No way" to Chicago. The department and city are run by buffoons and treat their police like shit. If you're not going to secure our police stations could you please give us a contract Mr. Mayor!
CPD is about as far as you can get from a professional police department.
We used to be a crude but effective police department.
Now we are neither effective or professional.
we are DISSFUNCTIONAL !
The bad guys recognise this and are capitalizing on it.
Have you looked at JFed's face lately? Stress is catching up with him... and that belly...
Or maybe too many Crump-Hales Burgers?
So did the kid get a Happy Meal from Crump-Hales for a JOB WELL DONE!
Bet it came with its own little police car and badge.
Off topic MSF is already fucked up. Sergeants pushing for numbers at any cost. At least with the old SOS if you were willing to take risks you were taken care of. They pimp you over nylon duty belts and little shit but want you to go out and bring in numbers.
You NEWS ORGANIZATIONS need to blame no one else other than our leaders. WE are forced to allow all this bullshit in the name of what (Social Justice). Time and time again we point out hazards to our leaders to no avail.PRIME EXAMPLE: Taste of Chicago..... how many unmarked cruisers are there with no verification that the plates they bear are not lost or stolen. Anyone could drive up in uniform with a trunk load of explosives. There are no postings of lost stolen or missing city plates. WAKE UP, WAKE UP. We officers and the public are at the mercy of leaders incapable of leading. Political correctness will kill... its only a matter of when.
Maybe they can buy some locks for the station doors at the brand new Lowe's at 79th and Cicero before the place goes out of business in a few months. Daley was out there yesterday for the grand opening, bragging about how this was going to create jobs, etc.
Today, Home Depot said it's getting out of the "high end home remodeling" line, and is laying off 7,000 store employees and 2,000 non-store personnel.
With the condominium disaster, and the bad economy causing people to decide against cosmetic home remodeling, what a great time to open a new outlet for building material...
Caterpillar will also lay off one in 10 employees. No construction projects, no construction equipment needed. "Decimation" in the literal sense.
What a mess..What a disgrace..
They will never do this! Daley cannot even keep illegals out and violates federal laws,while the feds let him do whatever he wants! daleys legacy will be a destroyed city much in debt! I pray the olympics never come here,to give daley and his street thugs more envelopes!
There are numerous incidents in the CPD that are just as disgraceful. How about what J-Fed did to Cozzie for giving a piss bumb a few cracks. And now he's looking at time!
1/27/2009 03:02:00 AM
No jagoff COZZI was wronged now get fucked troll!
Anonymous said...
Off topic MSF is already fucked up. Sergeants pushing for numbers at any cost. At least with the old SOS if you were willing to take risks you were taken care of. They pimp you over nylon duty belts and little shit but want you to go out and bring in numbers.
1/27/2009 05:13:00 AM
and no computers no cars and short radios! Kids if you joined this see you at "your" fundraiser!
Forget about safety, the heat doesn't even work in 008's lobby. It's so cold in there the homeless people sleep in front of the building! The desk crew has three space heaters they bought themselves just to stay warm. What a joke!
If you're not going to secure our police stations could you please give us a contract Mr. Mayor!
1/27/2009 03:06:00 AM
Your mom brought you up right, but you're being far too polite.
SCC what about Coppers writing on bathroom walls throwing garbage all over the place and eating the steering wheels. Starts looking inward first
A Unit Rep of a Chicago Police Department district station wrote a safety complaint addressing exactly these issues a few years ago. The complaint went exactly nowhere. The commander answered it in typical police Command Staff doublespeak.
Nothing was done. In the complaint was written that these issues need to be addressed before a catastrophe occurs at the district station. Those words were ignored.
This security issue is more serious than the embarrassment of a 14 year old playing police for a few hours. We have unsecured facilities. We have access open to anyone bent on mayhem. We have prisoners in very close proximity to armed police officers and civilians and NO facilities in which to lock our firearms.
It was said then and is true now, the situation is serious and is a catastrophe waiting to happen. The same conditions exist at many district stations.
What do these "leaders" down at 3510 S Michigan need, a blood bath at a district station before they take the issue of security seriously?
As it is, a 14 year old kid embarrasses them and they are tap dancing all over the place making up bullshit to cover their ass for the lax conditions that allowed this 14 year old to enter a marked squad car as partner to an on duty officer who should have known better.
I can imagine now that the typical knee jerk reaction will be to force us to show ID cards or some other nonsense reactionary response. This still will not address the shabby security conditions which exist in most district stations of the Chicago Police department.
The obvious solution is to go to any medium suburban police station which is secure and well thought out and hire that police chief to come and try to fix our miserable security conditions.
Tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars of Homeland Security money has been spent here and the police stations of the CPD still are in the 1950's as far as security is concerned. The few new stations built in the past 10 years are better but overall there is no cohesive security strategy.
News media only has to try to enter any of the older police stations to prove these statements true.
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C.A.P.S. WORKS!
Hey 12:24, your probably a middle aged white guy that doesnt where his ID, I'll bet. So now, someone does challenge you and you're going to rag on them. Thats the same reason uniform stores dont ask for ID's and officers are intimidated to challenge, cuz assholes like you will berate them when you are challenged. BTW, take a look at the news around the world, middle age white guys kill too. Signed, middle aged white guy.
The homeless are BUMS, not people without homes. Every single one of them is the master of their own destiny. There are numerous social services and shelters that provide access if these bums want it. Aside from the disease and stench, the last Chicago Policeman killed in the line of duty, Rick Francis, was murdered by a "poor homeless woman" who had slept in the 019 district station for two weeks prior to killing Rick. AND SHE WEIGHED OVER 300 POUNDS!!!. But don't look for things to change. Our administration of Change will not allow it.
TRUE STORY!!!!
Was at HQ a number of years ago when we first got our fake Jr Scout Stars. A letter fell out out of it and I thought I would ask who I would go to for repairs or a replacement. I was told to see some 30 year vet who pulled out a brush and some black paint used for painting model cars. He then made the "repairs". Since then my star looks like it has been up J-freds ass. How could I not have pride in that!
Some OXYMORONS to think about in this city:
Officer Safety
dedicated professionals
building security
competent leadership
professional leadership
public safety
homeland security
CPD Professional Standards
investigative reporting
district commander ___(fill in the blank)
Asst. Supt. ___ (fill in the blank)
Supt. Weis
objective journalism
merit promotions
retro pay
law and order
and very sadly of course:
Chicago's Finest
I hope we don't have a 9/11-type incident to show how ill-prepared this city is.
Some of you are making Barney Fife and Andy look like the Green Beret.
I had to go into a station once to report an accident. The homeless guys were so nasty that I left. How often does the public, the taxpaying, decent public who need assistance at a station not go there because of these folks.
And then to think about dealing with them all day over a shift.
The leadership in the Chicago Police Department is horribly inept.
I am afraid that in these grim economic times...we will have to let the C.A.P.S. program go.
Just a fantasy. It's a political army, so we will be dragging this useless corpse around forever.
Tony the bum lived in the old 010th district station for the 20+ years I was there.He used to sleep
by the radiators and stink up the
whole building.
If you brought in a prisoner on 1st
watch he would read you the riot act for waking him up.
When Joey D got dumped by Byrne to
a WC in 010 he gave Tony the bum one of his $900 wool dress coats because he felt sorry for the bum.
Tony tried on the coat and told Joey D I ain't wearing that rag.
Joey D went nuts,ah the good old days when it was fun to be the police.I wonder whatever happened to Tony the bum?
Retired,and loving it,stay safe.
SRT said...
This problem began with being community friendly and the CAPS b/s.
1/27/2009 12:18:00 AM
Sorry, not true. I'm 4 years retired and it was a problem from day one at the Academy!
Every District or unit I ever worked at in the CPD had security problems at various levels. Whenever they were addressed, the COMPLETE solutions were rejected somewhere in the chain of command, usually as being too expensive. A less effective, less expensive and more temporary solution would be implemented instead, that would somewhat appease the complainer, make some white shirt appear to be a competent boss and life would go on. And this includes pre-Daley.
SCC A side note about homeland security. Did you know that US Postal service delivery trucks (vans) do not have license plates? essentially anyone could buy a white van put US Postal service stickers on it, drive and park where ever they want. They could park it at the airport, school, police station, or in front of any federal building filled with packages (explosives) and blow up the thing. I was shocked to see the delivery vans have no plates and see this a huge hole in homeland security.
Theres nothing you can do to improve morale when it is NON EXISTANT!
Wasn't the loon that killed PO Francis a homeless squatter at 019? That should have been enough to do away with our social service mandates right there. But what do they care? It's never gonna be their lives on the line.
Hell come to ERPS or the forensic services ANY time day or night and the down stairs is unlocked. We wrote to J Fed his first month to get the buzzer system fixed, still doesn't. Many night the desk guy at forensic's is the only guy in the building. We already had a homeless guy walkng around at 0200. Wrote a report any guess what, the door is still not fixed.
when 008 opened i remeber the key pad being broken. Which meant the door NEVER locked from the parking lot entrance. Any asshole could walk in through this door. In the old stations it wasnt as much a problem because generally there was only one door used but in the new ones if you enter a side door you could easily get through the entire building witout being seen. That door was fixed after maybe 2 months, typical city bullshit. then when something happens they blame the wrong people
STOP letting these homeless people sleep in the lobbies and stairwells, we arent a fucking shelter. There are shelters for that. many of these homeless people have mental health issues, is it safe to ahve them wandering in a police facility? If desk personnel are busy, which in busy districts they often can be, its kind of hard for 2 or 3 coppers to keep an eye on wandering people
Anonymous said...
Off topic MSF is already fucked up. They pimp you over nylon duty belts
OMG no nylon duty belts!!!! How will you guys survive??
My hri mcquire use to teach about this at the academy over 6 yrs ago. He said that anybody could get into a police station just by wearing a uniform and that most coppers hardly ever wear their stars. He said that if you asked a guy with no star if he was the police and if he said Go F' yourseld then they must be the cpd. He also talked about Northern ireland and how police were targets of infiltration.Youd think somebody would listen to him.He is a colonel in the army guard.
infected festering sores"
that would be a bad ass death metal band name
This Department is what I call a BAND-AID BUREAUCRACY. My astute observation has always been that when a problem is identified, (ie exposed by the media), a 'band-aid' is immediately applied and remains on the problem until it is needed elsewhere. This means invariably that manpower will adjust to 'fix' the problem TEMPORARILY and move on when everyone has forgotten about it or until the original problem resurfaces.
This attitude must, and probably will, change however, due to the "ugly Vincent Richardson incident".
All the troops bitch about it but no white shirts seem to give a shit, including commanders of districts. They only do something (bare minimum) as a reactive measure after something happens. One of these days it will be a copper getting hurt or killed because of the terrible security issues at hand.
It sounds like you don't give a shit either, and that is being part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Newsflash to all you cadets& westwood college wunderkids working the desk. Challenging a middle age white guy wearing a shirt & tie that's already been in the station for an hour & half using the desk phone to contact felony review doesn't fulfill your obligation for station security. MORONS !!
stop being a bitch, wear your id or star like ur supposed to. fucking prima donna get over yourself.
This department is probably fucked up beyond repair. It would probably take several billion dollars to turn this department around to the point where it is comparable to other departments around the nation. There's too many fucked up things to list but you all know what they are. This department is just a giant embarrassment.
Anonymous said...
Newsflash to all you cadets& westwood college wunderkids working the desk. Challenging a middle age white guy wearing a shirt & tie that's already been in the station for an hour & half using the desk phone to contact felony review doesn't fulfill your obligation for station security. MORONS !!
1/27/2009 12:24:00 AM
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Another salty Dick.....shocking! Does it hurt your ego that bad? You should be wearing your ID according to policy, anyway. That's the problem in the first place, there is no continuity in procedure.
WHICH STORE ON ROOSEVELT SOLD HIM THE UNIFORMS??
Building Security - start with a closed facility like a bank lobby where there is an ATM. Simply sliding an ATM card through a reader unlocks the door to authorized persons AND RECORDS THEIR ENTRY TO BOOT... sort of like swiping in. Wouldn't that kill two birds with one stone (security and GPSing personnel at the station)?
How about putting one of Daley's red light cameras in the station lobbies to record the daily craziness THAT IS a police facility ! ! !
Why not use some of the old shuttered police stations for CAPS stuff like meetings, warming facilities, or homeless shelters and getting those people out of the District stations...
leaving them empty is just simply "Cuckoo"!
This morning I watched as all the people going to court streamed in the back door of the 025 District walk past the desk and out the front door as usual going to the court house next door. At the same time, there was a steady stream of city workers coming in the front door and out the back door. Then there was all the people coming up from the 3.5 hour range class downstairs. Anybody could have walked in out around or through that building and nobody had any way to challenge them. SECURE these parking lots and these buildings before somebody gets hurt!!
YOU LET HOMELESS PEOPLE SLEEP IN THE POLICE STATION!!!!! OMG
This "touchy-feely" crap has to stop. No one gets to sleep in the station - no more "warming centers."
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Uh-oh, there goes the incentive to working a North side lock-up or CAPS office ! ! !
Bring back Bill Whitney for 025's parking lot security.
The WC is the one in charge he f@#% up he should be a man stand up and take the hit
It's only going to get worse guys/gals.
When it's finally decided that hiring will continue there wont be any decent people applying. It'll all be shit heads wanting to wear the CPD uniform that has been disgraced so much it's now embarrassing to put on; and they'll get the job too..for any number of reasons...and so we have our vicious cycle of incompetence.
To all the young officers - get out while you still can.
In 016, we have found citizens parking their cars in our lot and heading to the el station with their luggage going to Ohare airport. Yeah, we write them tickets but how many are we missing
? ALL garages need security gates. Our cars have been vandalized many times. Signs are up stating who the lot is for but no one reads anymore I guess. When CO R.P. was in charge he let anybody that was coming to a large meeting, park in the garage with instructions NOT to ticket them. There is no concern for our safety anymore only concerns that the CITIZENS are kept happy. I can't wait to retire.
THE WATCH COMMANDER IS IN CHARGE!
IT SEEMS THE WATCH COMMANDER WHO R PAID OVER 100K R TOO BUSY!
THEY DONT CHECK THE LOCK UPS
THEY DONT SECURE THE PARKING LOTS
THEY DONT FILE REPORTS FOR MANTENANCE REQUEST
BUT THEY LOVE THE COMP TIME AT THE END OF THE DAY
THEY LOVE WATCHING TV IN THEIR OFFICES
THEY DONT KNOW THE BEATS LIKE THE USED TOO (TEST THEM)
ASK THEM FOR ADVICE AND WATCH THEM CALL A SGT THEY R TOOOO BUSY!
THEY CANT PICK UP THEIR OWN LUNCH B CUZ THEYRE TOOOO BUSY
A DESK SGT USUALLY KNOWS IT ALL SO WHY NOT JUST GET RID OF WATCH COMMANDER ITS A WASTE OF R TAXES!
YEA THEY GET 100K FOR CLICKING ON A BOX ON AN ARREST REPORT AND READING OFF NAMES AT THE START OF A SHIFT! THEY DONT EVEN DO THE PAYROLL CMON WOULD YOU RUN A COMPANY LIKE THIS!?!
You should have seen the gang party recently hosted by the 021 CAPS program! Hootin' and hollerin' and the N-word being thrown around like they were on the corner of 47 and Cottage! These are the best young people we could find to invite into our station?
By allowing this kind of activity in our "house" we are not commanding respect from the natives.
Anonymous said...
When I was in the Mighty Deuce back in 01-02, the Commander; (MP) forced us to let the "homeless" sleep in the lobby at 51st and Wentworth overnight. The desk crew was forced to light incense sticks along the desk in an attempt to block out the very strong smell of ass and feet.
AHHHH....Memories !!
Sarge "Big Daddy" back in 024 !
1/27/2009 12:51:00 AM
I remember that! I was in lockup one day, came out to get some bond slips, and was like "this place REEKS!" To have the lobby smell worse than a/1 lockup is unacceptable!
From the Chicago Tribune today ----Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue, while acknowledging the incident was embarrassing, called it a fluke and not indicative of a wider security problem.
I guess he really doesn't listen to the troops. when was the last time he walked into a station? Oh yea, right before elections.
o.t.
HEY GEORGAS !!!! WTF the beat guys get screwed again!
The beat cars get stuck working the full 8 3/4 while the rapids still work only 8? (TRY showing up at your 430 (cough cough ) check off. ) What about The tow car "traffic car" and construction car they start at 6 and are gone by 2. WTF!!! Your Zoo guys WTF ? I could go on and on, but why bother. HEY COMMANDER - the beat cars are the backbone of the district why are we continually screwed over!!!! Your b.s. specialty cars already have cush spots - you put them on a 4-2 AND they work even less hours? WTF
Retired CPD. Had a problem when I worked the desk towards the end of my career. During the winter the homeless came into the station and demanded Human services. I obtained their names and name checked them. Problem went away!
So please, you can tell me where this Kale uniform store is? I simply would like to look at it, not buy any uniform and try to impersonate police officer! Also, the vest carrier, how much C-4 do you think could be carried inside..... pure speculation! Again I have no desire to dress like a police officer and enter any secured government facilities. Thank you very much! Praise Allah!
What's a few festering sores amongst friends?
Speaking of imposters infiltrating
the CPD; can a clouted boss form an imposter task force and hit 019 and hit it hard!! That district has been under siege for years......
At least the 14yo responded to a few calls.
Off topic MSF is already fucked up. Sergeants pushing for numbers at any cost. At least with the old SOS if you were willing to take risks you were taken care of. They pimp you over nylon duty belts and little shit but want you to go out and bring in numbers.
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Yaeh and they will come on your job, or stop or whatever your on and try to take it over without asking you whats going on. I don't know if it was explained to these retards that when you show up to someone elses job you should be backing them up, not taking over the job and tearing shit up. If you guys are going to keep doing that garbage go find your own work to do. It's happened to me twice on jobs and I know im not the only one. I just dupe it to them and leave.
As of this moment, there is a 71 y.o female 4 living in the hallway of the 12th district. She refuses to go to a shelter because she has a dog with her and the shelters wont take the mutt.
Let the firehouses have them. They have beds, kitchens for cooking, nice showers.
Why do we have to deal with these filthy orthopods lounging around our house. Send 'em to the nearest firehouse and see what happens.
Your point about homeless persons not belonging in police stations has merit, but don't place the blame on the chronically mentally ill and/or addicted homeless.
Look at the Mayor who decided last week to close five (5) community mental health centers that provide treatment and medications to the chronically mentally ill to PREVENT them from ending up in your stations.
Not for profits that work with the homeless population on affordable housing, health/mental health treatment and basic shelter care are really struggling to keep their doors open.
Private foundations who invested their endowments in the stock market and lost large amounts of money have been forced to cut back their support to many of the programs who work with the homeless.
I agree with you in that the homeless don't belong in police stations without clean bedding, food, medical care and surrounded by people who don't have the training and compassion to deal with them.
Advocate for the homeless in productive ways.... work to help improve their quality of life and you just might find that you will feel accomplished instead of angry.
How often are you in the crapper with your duty belt around your ankles (gun included). Unauthorized individuals in the station can easily kill you or disarm you when getting caught with your pants down.
Money, drugs, guns or any type of evidence can be snatched off the front desk or interview tables with all these unauthorized individuals walking around in the station.
How often do you lay your wallet down, gun, etc on the bench next to you in the locker room. Maybe you get up to walk over to the mirror or sink or your distracted by another copper talking to you. An unauthorized individual could easily sneak by and steal your stuff.
How about you being an officer and thinking your safe and surrounded by other officers while in the "secure" station, let your guard down a little bit, of course less than what you would do on the street and some unauthorized individual with bad intentions gets the drop on you, your partner and other coppers in the room and shoots each and every one of you.
I can go on and on but you get the picture. The commanders and the departments should be and remain to be proactive when it comes to station security. Its so fucking embarassing how the security is right now in the station parking lots and inside the station itself.
SCC please make a post of this.
The great all knowing Hubberman has grabbed another position after spending a whole year at the previsous one doing nothing but screwing it up.
We and the pension board need to stay on this. He is now going to try and grab OUR pension once again. He will puch the whole security arguement even harder now that he is running the CPS system.
Some of you guys crack me up. Safety issue? What, someone might get a gun and take a shot at you?
Try being on the street for a minute clowns. The uniforms on the street are targets every minute of every day for anyone who wants to take a shot.
How is a station ever going to be less safe than the streets?
Unreal.
And then what happens when the stations are secure? If someone wants to target the police, they will still be able to target the police. A few years ago on the east coast a deranged teenager walked up to a police station and shot and killed two police officers in the parking lot.
Was there some unaddressed safety issue there?
This is not a safety issue. Its a convenience issue. For convenience, I'll stand with any of you in having stations closed to the public. Just don't mischaracterize this as somehow being a "safety" issue, when the real police are actually targets outside those walls every minute of every day.
There are anywhere between 15-25 stinky homeless people sleeping in the lobby at 51st and Wentworth every winter month. No exaggeration. There is also a shoe shine guy who is about 30-35 in the first floor hallway, which is BEHIND the front desk. He freely walks through the second floor detective division saying "Shoe shine. Who needs a shoe shine", like a vendor at a baseball game.
This guy has access to the whole building.
The city lied,the kid drove the car and wrote tickets.
OT: But the 8th grader who played pooleeze for 6 hrs. should be the Commander of the 003rd District. He sure outfoxed Lillie and her dumb fucking people.Now we all have to suffer with BIG BIRD and other useless fucks coming to roll call-only because of the stupid idiots in 003. Funny thing is-this kid is smarter than the 003rd District Watch Commander, The bullshit Sgts. not to mention the District Cmdr. But then again Cmdr. Lillie was probably flipping burgers at Burger King. Junior was more intelligent than the asshole "veteran" P.O. he was with. That poor Police Officer has got to be a real STUMP!!!! HUH.
Just heard the City (not the Department) is doing random spot checks on civilian dress employees wearing i.d.'s and wrote up someone in 023 this morning for not wearing one.
Um, wasn't the 14year old wearing a UNIFORM? Knee jerk overreaction, as usual.
Bottom line is blame Mayor Mumbles. He put all these fucking morons in charge. He hates to take blame when shit goes wrong. U.S. Atty Fitzgerald he is the problem. The most corrupt idiot going. We all know this in the CPD. Int. OLy. Comm. please listen. Nobody in Chicago-especially the Chicago Police Dept. wants the 2016 Olympics. SEND THE GAMES WAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THE MURDER CAPITAL OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a classic example of a fish rotting from the head down.
The blame has to start with the Mayor.
Instead of viewing the Police Department as a vital entity needing competent management to ensure public safety in ever-more dangerous times, he continues to see the Police Department (and every other city agency) as nothing more than a big dollar job pool for his friends and political rewardees.
The issue of homeless in the stations was known to everyone that spent any time in the Patrol Division.
Yet the commander of the Patrol Division, Commander Clueless-(with 5 brothers), did nothing to address. As did countless others.
The list of incompetent people promoted to command position goes on and on. Like the last Chief of Detectives......
There is a order on unauthorized persons in the work place. Read it and enforce it. This is a safety issue. FOP, where are you????
When J-Fed came in he purged the department of most of its experienced command staff. While some of them were not the sharpest knives in the drawer, they did have a lot of time in various areas of the department and they knew of where the doors and buttons were. Not any more.
What happens when J-Fed leaves?? Who is there in this department that has the brains, ability, and leadership to right this ship? The first thing he/she will have to do is get a totally free hand from the mayor. Without that, there is no hope.
I think that most Chicagoans are starting to see that under RJD, Chicago is no longer the "City That Works."
Any have-way decent person could unseat him. We need him out.
Thank God it wasn't a holiday that the 8th grader worked during his tour of duty in 003. Mayor Shortshanks would have to pay him time and a half which would have cut into his Olympic funds.
I'm sorry, but very OT:
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Send jagoff Big Bird to all roll calls. That useless fuck will destroy what little left of morale there is. He's a big mope. Never was the police and never will be. I'll take the 14 yr. old as a partner any time over Big Bird Moran.
"The Chicago Sun-Times reported Tuesday that one of Huberman's first orders of business will be to take a closer look at safety procedures for team sports in the wake of an outbreak of violence that has forced CPS to ban visiting fans from away games. Huberman also plans to use his police expertise he gained as an officer to conduct a broader review of school security."
Hubberman is now using the media and his new position to push for our pension.
He is going to go back to the board and say "hey look, the first thing I did as CEO of the CPS was security. I deserve a bloated police pension!"
People, we need to stay on top of this bullshit
In regard to the poster who commented on the terrible CPD stars we now have, you are correct, my star looks fake also. Several of the letters have fallen off and it is just embarassing. I will pay to have it repaired, any idea where that can be done?
Anyone, anyone?
There are numerous incidents in the CPD that are just as disgraceful. How about what J-Fed did to Cozzie for giving a piss bumb a few cracks. And now he's looking at time!
1/27/2009 03:02:00 AM
He used a blunt instrument to hit a guy that was handcffed to a wheelchair ten times. That is not cracking a piss a bumb.
How about just keeping the damn buildings clean. That means periodically actually cleaning something rather than just picking up the trash.
How about simply routing out some of the waste water lines so the bathrooms don't all smell like urine.
Simple things that are never done.
Quit your whining. Come to 023 and see what a old station looks like. Shut up and do your job!!
You all might as well save your comments and your breath....Daley is not going to spend $1.00 on any police station security......let me re iterate---Daly is NOT going to spend $1.00 on any police station security. These stations have been like this for years...some over 10 years and nothing has been done about it since and why would you think anything will be done about it now?? In 025 they haven't fixed the fucking floor in the vestibule in over 10 years that had the broken tiles...and if you think I am exaggerating...ask someone who has been there that long...they just now started to fix it...but of course after putting concrete in over a month ago...they still have not come back to put the tile in we walk through the garbage chute area...and were actually walking through the elevator for a couple weeks!!! They also just recently put a door in at the bottom of the stairs in 025 because the fire marshall came out....there hasn't been a door there in 10+ years!!!! now it's a fire hazard???!!!...ANYONE can walk into that building...ANYONE...they garage doors are left open all day and all night....right where the lockup(s) are...anyone can get in there and cause a problem....The sally port doors in 016 do not work and haven't worked in years!! the Watch Commander(s) park their cars in there and wash them..instead of the officers using them for their safety when moving prisoners....the fucking watch commander(s) park their cars in there!!! Thanks for thinking about us and our safety...I challenge the Superintendent or Daley to visit 025th dist and feel free to walk around and see how far you can get....walk into the garages...take whatever you need...walk downstairs...nobody's watching....go into the locker rooms...hell walk upstairs in the detectives unit...put a bomb in the building....NOBODY would know you are there.....Safety?? Security?? start with locking the fucking doors and garages and making the ones you have operational so the coppers can use them!! put fucking electronic keypads on the doors so you can key in a code to open them up instead of these fucking cards in some districts...In 015...you can't GET OUT of the lockup unless you have a key card....I mean officers!!! that's VERY unsafe!! Fire, Fight, etc....you are locked inside!! GREAT IDEA HUH??? Change that to key pads so you can get in/out morons!!
I work in 010. There is a boss on my watch who never lets anybody hang out in the lobby at the desk. He rips into outside cops who wander in and dont check in at the desk. makes no differnce- the tact team broke the side door lock for eaqsy entry and every outside unit guy walks around like they own the place. The bigger bosses dont really give a shit
he TRU Unit has a state of the art modern police facility on Pershing Road with a working elevator!
1/27/2009 03:00:00 AM
Fastest elevator in the chity !
take a look at 014 during the day. All the piss bums in between the doors, sitting around , walkign through the lobby, parking their bikes in the doorways. Why the fuck are we catering to these people? If they are cold send them to 10 s. kedzie. How about we protect ourselves from their shit and not worry about some piss bum who has to pee cause he drank to many forty ouncers or he needs a place to sleep cause he cant go get a fucking job. The bosses claim they have our backs, but they dont. How about you start by cleaning the districts of shit that shouldnt be there so the people who need help from the police dont have to be affected by this shit either. This dept has gone soft. The bums and jagoffs have more power than us. God forbid we kick them out and improve our image...........
What is Unit 34B looking at on the CPD?
Off topic MSF is already fucked up. Sergeants pushing for numbers at any cost. At least with the old SOS if you were willing to take risks you were taken care of. They pimp you over nylon duty belts and little shit but want you to go out and bring in numbers.
1/27/2009 05:13:00 AM
I'd like to say "DUH!" No shit sherlock! What the fuck did you expect at MSF! A big open arms welcome? YOU KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO HAMMER YOU WITH UNIFORM INSPECTIONS! I dare you, I double dog dare you to show up with a black hoodie!
However, now, thats not just at MSF! Due to the fuck-up of a few (003rd Dist) the whole patrol division, and anyone that wears a uniform will be having stand up roll call, uniform inspections.... Because THAT will stop the problem!
--taken from police news website--
--www.policeone.com--
In the wake of the incident, top Chicago police commanders met Monday to talk about how such security breaches could be prevented, said Monique Bond, spokeswoman for the department. Police will look into how the boy obtained the police uniform but say the incident may have been prevented if other officers had earlier noticed he wasn't wearing a police star.
"We need to identify ... what procedure was not followed," Bond said. "There are strict uniform guidelines and there are measures in place specifically designed to ensure supervisors check to make sure that uniforms [are in] compliance."
Most police districts are relatively open to the public with few if any metal detectors at entrances and random checks of identification.
Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue, while acknowledging the incident was embarrassing, called it a fluke and not indicative of a wider security problem.
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First of all;
Mrs. Bond, if you ever read the daily teletypes, you would see the massive numbers of lost/stolen stars, shields, and id's reported on a regular basis. Not to mention the relatively easy fabrication of our stars (they used to be offered on ebay). Yes, stricter guidelines MAY prevent a 14 year old from patrolling with a partner for an entire tour and making arrests, however, strict adherence of personnel wearing stars and id badges will not thwart an intelligent person or group who's purpose is to cause catastrophic damage to structures and massive casualties!!!!
Second;
Mark, you are modest by saying this is embarrassing. If this article (WWW.POLICEONE.COM) is accurate in documenting your summarized statement which reads (this incident was a fluke and not indicative of a wider security problem), then you sir are grossly negligent. I know it has been years since you've had to work at an Area/District, but nothing has changed since before you got anointed president. You know that there is NO security in our districts/areas and the surrounding grounds, structures, equipment and vehicles. You have been given the responsibility of representing the core thoughts and beliefs of you members.
How many of you believe that this incident is a fluke and not indicative of a wider security problem?
Hate people on here that don't know Captain Johnson in 003 giving him flak. Capt Johnson is a great guy. Nobody ran across the new guy to him. It's not his fault.
O.T. One of the guys in A/4 committed suicide today. We will miss you DC. Luv ya man.
Station Security???
Let's look at the 011th District...
DESK AREA/PUBLIC ACCESS
No security gates or restricted access points to prevent unauthorized people from entering the desk and processing areas from the front public lobby.
Access to public restrooms from the front lobby is through an unlocked gate which also allows unrestricted access to the lock-up entry door, the stairway leading upstairs to the detective division, the stairway leading downstairs to roll call room, the auditorium, range and the locker rooms.
BACK DOOR AREA
The back door has no security features at all. It provides unrestricted access to anyone and everyone (including a guy who was high and bum rushed through the back door several years back, injuring some P.O.'s who were writing up arrest reports at a table in the hallway).
REAR SERVICE DOOR
The rear service door by the alley does not lock and is unsecured. It provides unrestricted access to anyone and everyone... from police personnel to janitors to delivery people to bums in the alley. From that entry way there is ready access to the lock-up entrance door, desk area and processing rooms, the 2nd floor and the basement. It would be very easy to come and go undetected from just this one doorway alone.
OVERHEAD GARAGE DOORS
The garage door openers don't work half the time. Even when they do, there is no restricted access to gain entry to the garage... then the lock-up entry door... from the outside.
THE LOCK-UP
Did they ever fix the broken lock-up emergency alarm that hasn't worked in years?
The gun lockers (for arresting officers to secure weapons prior to entering the lock-up) have been broken and inoperable for well over 10 years... maybe 20 years.
THE BASEMENT
Let's look at that for a moment... perhaps the weakest link.
One can enter the basement from an unsecured exterior door that leads to the parking garage.
The basement is wide open from the police side of the building to the court side of the building (where offices for social services, probation and other such functions exist. There is unrestricted and free access for any person that comes to the basement on the court side to just walk over to the police side. God only knows who is coming and going through our side of the basement on a daily basis.
There are many nooks and crannies that are unsecured in the basement where unauthorized people can hide virtually undetected if that was their intent. Check out the open public restrooms next to the auditorium , as just one example.
Don't forget the "toys" we have stockpiled the basement. What would happen if some dedicated evil doers scoped out the real estate and decided to bum rush the room where the "green guys" have all their stuff?
SECURITY CAMERAS
What security cameras? There are no security cameras or monitors for desk personnel to monitor checkpoints, exterior doors, exterior perimeters of the station and parking lot, the stairwells, the basement area, offices, range or other areas of the station. If you look closely, you will see that there is still evidence of cameras that were installed in some (not all) of these areas 30 years ago. Of course, none of them work today.
That's ok though... the desk officers have the modern technology to monitor other security cameras... PODS... They have a mission to catch "Whiskey Willie", "Loosey Larry" and the rest of the bottle gang out there doing their thing. Who's watching Fort Harrison though?
HOW MUCH MANPOWER IS NEEDED TO PROPERLY SECURE THE STATION?
If the city doesn't want to spend the necessary funds to insure the station has the proper doors, locks, limited access control features, interior and exterior cameras, and other necessary security measures to properly secure the facility... then...
The bosses will just have to down a few cars to assign officers to "stationary security posts" throughout the facility to provide the security that is both reasonable and required for a police facility.
Do you think another watch commander, desk sergeant or desk mouse will want to be blamed and punished if we have another goof-up due to poor security practices?
Actually, security staffing may not be a problem. Since there are so many down cars in 011 with no pool cars available, the bosses already have people available for these security posts.
EXPLOITATION OF SECURITY FLAWS
The big boss says on the news that they don't want to exploit security vulnerabilities of police facilities. How about if they stop ignoring the existing issues which have been reported over and over? When are they really going to do something about them? These problems didn't just fall from the sky last week. They are the results of years and decades of neglect. Problems do not fix themselves if ignored. Maybe if publicly shamed, something will finally be done to address our security flaws? Don't hold your breath waiting though.
What will it take to really fix this stuff? A terrorist act? A police officer killed or seriously injured? Don't think for one minute that any precious Olympic monies from city coffers will be used for this. It is unacceptable to cry poor mouth for decades and just ignore these critical issues. Maybe a few less flower pots and wrought iron fences... put the money where it is needed.
THE NEXT GREAT CHICAGO FIRE WILL NOT START AT 011
Look at the upside though... the city just installed a brand new fire sprinkler system in a parking garage that is literally falling apart. They also installed a brand new fire alarm system in the station, which is also falling apart. (Can you spell "pork contract"?)
The city seems more concerned with protecting the building and parking garage from fire than they are in providing a safe and secure work facility for its high-risk employees.
There are a few cows wandering about 011, but no officers named O'Leary. At least we are safe from fire... lol.
The FOP is useless! They are totally dysfunctional since their implosion and inability to gather any support from their members! MD is just trying to get everyone focused on the "new schedules" and leading them away from negotiations "under the table!" He will then retire with a fat pension and a seat on the Board of Directors for all his years of "sacrifice!" Anything the FOP and the City like "IS BAD FOR YOU!"
Hey, boys and girls, this 3rd District fiasco has to drop right at the door it where it belongs. The Watch Commander. Read your Orders, I'm sure they haven't changed that much since I left. The WC has to take the heat on this one. Possibly the Sgt. who had these 2 on his log, depending on his contact with them. Although a lot of people could be dragged in this mess for "Ramifications", not using common sense is still not a Violation, or is it?
Retired almost 12yrs.............
Why would the city invest money in a department it is trying to break?
They will break you.
How soon people forget that some jagoff walked into 003 not too many years ago with a gun and was shot (and killed I think) by the desk crew. Not that the desk crew is all that great cause they're not, just pointing out more lapses in "security"
dont like it leave---you knew the deplorable conditions when you took this job. If you are so impressed with the suburban departments, go work for them!You dont like our merit system? Too bad, it most likely was in place when you took the job! You dont like residency and the outrageous price tags on the cracker box houses? Too bad, you knew that city living was more costly than the suburbs when you took the job! You dont like lack of manpower and the unsafe working conditions? Too bad, the city is nearing bankruptcy! You dont like the fact that millions (most likely BILLIONS by the end of it) of your taxpayers dollars are going to be used to get/host the olympics? Too fucking bad! THIS IS MY FUCKING CITY!!! I WILL DO WHAT I DAMN WELL PLEASE!!!
signed, Richard the Terrible
Breaking News....J-Fed gone by the end of the week!!
OT
How about the MSF on zone 10 last night calling out a foot chase, when the dispatcher asks where are you he states "We dont need any help" and then continues to call out his foot chase.
Isn't the 03 dist where they had the shooting right by the d/c's office, how the front desk wraps around to it and there is nothing to block access anywhere. Nowhere else in the city could this have happened, the kid knew what he was doing when he picked good ole grand crossing.
disgusted in blue
I figured out why Daley can do whatever and not be questioned. His an informant for the F.B.I. Think about it.
I completely agree. This department should start by fixing the symbol of our police department, the "star" we all carry. How could anyone respect us with that pathetic thing? Even when it's brand new it looks fake. Just about all of them that I have seen have letters missing, or the lake is gone. I'm embarrassed to show my star to people. Policework is a lot more than having a star but how do you expect the public to respect the police when the symbol they stand behind is made half ass....Bring back the old star!!!
Anonymous said...
Amen Scc! This subject of "non" station security has been a really bad problem in my 20 years on.
...and nobody has the balls to hold the WC responsible.
Anonymous said...
"infected festering sores"
NICE!
1/27/2009 12:36:00 AM
...crusty, maggot infested, puz oozing, flesh eating bacteria infected, festering sores...mmmmm
"BRING ON THE OLYMPICS" HAHA!
Nevermind that every copper working in or passing thru has to ingest the months-old funk, disease and dander that eminates from these dope-addicted, mentally-perturbed, unwashed, unkempt pillars of the community.
But worse is to work with police officers who cough / sneeze into their hands then rub them together to dry and then want to shake hands with you. Hey, Filthy McNasty; have you ever heard of soap and water.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/284646/boo_got_shot_animation/
This link is priceless
How is it any worse that a police station has to allow bums in its lobby versus any other public building?
I don't have a major issue with sweeping the bums out of public buildings and getting them to some kind of shelter, but the courts are going to look at that very closely.
here in my area the courts decided that the public library could not keep the bums out even though the smell from them was driving the public away and making the staff physically ill.
Anonymous said...
I was detailed to the Third Dist for a while. Let me tell you, that desk crew COULDN'T GIVE A FUCK! You could not PAY them to care less. They put the D in de-policing. I asked one of them so I could get a radio. She barely looking up at me from reading her magazine to tell me to get the key myself. She had no idea who I was. I went behind the desk and started to open draws til I found it. I could have walked off with every last radio and they never would have known! It got so bad that the Cmdr had to put something in the CO book admonishing the whole crew for ignoring civilian walk ins. This whole thing with the kid does not surprise me AT ALL!!!!
1/27/2009 01:54:00 AM
Same thing happened to me in 007. Very lax. Civilian dressed people constantly going behind the desk; into the radio room; using computers; faxs; copiers. I was just visiting and I could not identify these people as Police officers.
Anonymous said...
What a mess..What a disgrace..
1/27/2009 05:47:00 AM
..and it is not over yet, brother.
Bubberman named CPS chief. Maybe this is another backdoor attempt to getting at our pension??? It is confusing how someone with absolutely no teaching experience and no school administration experience will now be in charge of one the the nation's largest, an most fucked up school systems in the country!! Thank God for parochial schools even though the eat over half my income it is money well spent.
I have to correct you on bums not sleeping in the stations. I use to watch the Andy Griffith Show and Otis use to come to the station house to sleep all the time.
This is nothing new and the mayor could care less about the police dept. These worthless pieces of shit reverends run the city and control the policies of the police dept. Remember everything for the minorities, because minorites elects officials in this city. Forget law and order and keep promoting by the color of the skin and we will no longer have a police dept to care about. CPD solgan should be "Clueless in Chicago" because that is what most of the White Shirts are.
OH HEADS ARE GOING TO ROLL FOR THIS ONE. HOW DARE ANY OF YOU EMBARASS RICHIE OR JODY? They vowed to investigate and retaliate for this security breach!!! Nevermind Supt Weis or his command staff taking accountability for this incident. They will have to pass the buck on to others, shit rolls downhill. People have been complaining about the inadequate security of department facilities for years and nothing has been done about it but now because of this national embarassment the department will finally to action.
Typical reactive CPD!!! The worst part is some poor sap is going to have to take time because of the failings of the CPD upper management. Anyone who does anything more than show up to work and take up space these days is completely crazy. If that is all you do, I can guarantee there will be no lawsuits, no discipline time handed out, and NO SKITS on SNL and Jay Leno making fun of you.
When will the Superintendent address the security issue and the 14 year old patrolman fiasco?
Police and the public should be separate.
Love,
Mom
Anonymous said...
Off topic MSF is already fucked up. Sergeants pushing for numbers at any cost. At least with the old SOS if you were willing to take risks you were taken care of. They pimp you over nylon duty belts and little shit but want you to go out and bring in numbers.
1/27/2009 05:13:00 AM
YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT! MSF DOESNT PUSH ARRESTS.... THEY COME WITH JUST BEING THE POLICE. GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE AND SLEEP. KEEP BEING PART OF THE NON-POLICE CHECK GRABBERS!
I’ve been saying this for a while, this country has been pushing 3rd and 4th world countries to step up and be a democracy, it didn’t work so now the idiots in the glass tower want us to drop down to their level. I’m all for helping, but WTF why is it that all the stations have to become everything form a PADS to a babysitter. Wait till some outbreak of an old disease that’s been long gone comes back and you get to take it home… Yeah I know, I’m whinning
The current situation is no suprise when you think of the CAPS concept of working with other city agencies. Only thing is we (CPD) work and the others take credit, and try to impress shortshanks. Remember the police department is the only 24 hour a day social agency. Also you don't see ;bumbs sleeping at the firehouses (or do you) and they have more room.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/01/daley-wants-answers-about-fake-cop.html
Tell him to read the blog.
You are absolutely correct SCC, regarding the homeless sleeping in the station being a health issue. It is alarming the number of patients now being admitted to the hospital that are testing positive for TB. These patients are immediately placed in an isolation room and we are required to wear protective clothing, gloves and masks. Since TB is an air-born illness and can be spread whenever someone coughs, sneezes or spits, everyone within the facility is at risk of exposure. Not only is the health of the employees being put at risk, but also family members and the community as well.
1/27/2009 01:35:00 AM
Policemen have rights to a safe, healthy work environment. Hire a fucking lawyer to take care of this. In my job, we can refuse to interact with anyone who is sick or has a communicable disease. You should have that right as well. This politically correct bullshit needs to be returned to it's proper place. It doesn't belong in the police stations.
SCC,
Vote with your feet and take a hike. Or are you not ready to trade your big paycheck for a clean station and better equipment? Thank you.
everybody that works the desk.....just fill out an exposure form. say you were exposed to tb, and anything else you can think of. then just go iod when your sick. that will get peoples attention.
Do the Ebola victims still sleep in the vestibule in 014? Laughed my ass off some years ago when the Commander caught two syphillitic bums (1 male,1 female) copulating in the vestibule.
Letting these wretches camp, eat, screw, and (in one case)die there was what fucked up the climate control system in that building. You had to prop the doors open every morning to get the stench and TB spores out of the place. It fucked up the thermostats.
"Cuckoo!"
"No jagoff COZZI was wronged now get fucked troll!
1/27/2009 06:03:00 AM"
A bit of advice, buddy, don't post before you rub the boogers from your eyes.
you want to see a screwed up building? Try coming to Homan Square, The 3rd floor locker rooms are at a steady 100 degrees all year round, you are stinky and sweaty before you get started. There has been this God awful smell in the MFS offices ( Old SOS) for some time now, the building engineer says its coming thru the fresh air vents, Fresh air my ASS, the windows don't open so we can't get any outside air, Smoke alarms hand off the walls and don't have batteries in them, and while on this topic, it is said that 17 po's have requested to be returned to thier old asignment and want to leave MSF Company A, seems that the LT.is a little bit difficult to get along with.
You know, the story makes for a good laugh. But, can you imagine if a NFL team had to bring on players, based on the same hiring guidelines that CPD must adhere to; what are we doing to our police, based on some pc, progressive, social experiment. Are we ever going to reach the point that we begin hiring based on the passing and best scores of physical and cognitive skills?
From the the Trib:
"Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue, while acknowledging the incident was embarrassing, called it a fluke and not indicative of a wider security problem."
WTF? Has he ever been in a police station? Oh I forgot... Daley's hand is up his butt making his mouth move.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
o.t.
HEY GEORGAS !!!! WTF the beat guys get screwed again!
The beat cars get stuck working the full 8 3/4 while the rapids still work only 8? (TRY showing up at your 430 (cough cough ) check off. ) What about The tow car "traffic car" and construction car they start at 6 and are gone by 2. WTF!!! Your Zoo guys WTF ? I could go on and on, but why bother. HEY COMMANDER - the beat cars are the backbone of the district why are we continually screwed over!!!! Your b.s. specialty cars already have cush spots - you put them on a 4-2 AND they work even less hours? WTF
1/27/2009 10:15:00 AM
Wahhh I work in 018...
Wahhh I have to do a full tour...
Wahhh me me me.
Hey bitch, bid out.
Anonymous said...
Bring back Bill Whitney for 025's parking lot security.
1/27/2009 09:25:00 AM
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Bill Rocked! Strong as an Ox. He may not be able to move well but heaven forbid if he got a hold of you.
Old White Dicks wearing shirts, ties, dress slacks, carrying guns and cuffs getting stopped at A2 by patrol personnel with about 1.5 yrs. on the job asking for I.D.'s while piss bums, crackheads, strange deliverymen, city workers in beat up clothes, foreign maintenence people, female maintainence workers constantly walking around, cleaning, in mens locker rooms while men are present using the toilets and showers, fried chicken shack delivery people, vendors, strange victims and witnesses stopping in without any appointment to see youth officers and dicks, mopey lookin tack-gang-narco types with droopy jeans and beards everywhere, everyday, unknown people wandering thru the police and court parking lots, parking unauthorized cars and security guard cars in the Police lot, al this goes on non-stop, 24-7, walking around with no I.D's or building passes. Yes 4:42am; is completely right, this place is disfunctional and many inmates really are running the asylum. Thankfully we still have some old school bosses with a brain and logic, but they're burnt out, and are somewhat afraid to speak out. Patrol Division Personnel, break out YOUR I.D's when you hit the 2nd Floor in Civilian Clothes, and try stopping someone, or a vehicle that's really suspicious looking, and ask a few questions to them once in awhile. Really, you no longer even need a brain to get this job anymore.
Come on, the policeman who is in the car with the 14 year old kud for hours can't tell he is not a policeman. No other officers noticed at the station before the patrol began.
"Vote with your feet and take a hike. Or are you not ready to trade your big paycheck for a clean station and better equipment? Thank you.
1/27/2009 06:03:00 PM"
Your grasp of reality is breathtaking.
Sort of like the atmosphere surrounding the midget.
"YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT! MSF DOESNT PUSH ARRESTS.... THEY COME WITH JUST BEING THE POLICE. GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE AND SLEEP. KEEP BEING PART OF THE NON-POLICE CHECK GRABBERS!
1/27/2009 05:21:00 PM"
Don't you yell enough at work, boss?
In some of the district the w/c do not show up at roll call,the sgt conducts roll call with that "WHY AM I DOING THE ROLL CALL,I DON'T MAKE THE SAME MONEY AS THE MORON UPSTAIRS" look on his/her face.
it's gonna take a crazy mental homeless bum that the CPD allows to hang out in their building to go off on some innocent citizen making a report. Lawsuits will fly (on both sides....the poor citizen who was killed and the family of the crazed that all of a sudden appears like they care for their nut relative)...MAYBE, then maybe IDIOTS who have the power to change things will finally change things. Keep the doors locked and secured, everyone wear proper ID and if you have no business in the building, i.e. citizen making complaint or arrestee, get the hell out.
I agree with allowing the homeless sleep in the lobbies....it stinks, they have communicable diseases...TB, lice, you name it. Everyone is at risk.
"I have to correct you on bums not sleeping in the stations. I use to watch the Andy Griffith Show and Otis use to come to the station house to sleep all the time.
1/27/2009 04:53:00 PM"
Otis slept it off in a cell.
And he wasn't a bum, he was a regular imbiber.
Oh, and also a fictional character, in a fictional sheriff's office, in a fictional jail cell, in a fictional town, on a fictional television show.
Or can't you tell the difference?
How about simply routing out some of the waste water lines so the bathrooms don't all smell like urine.
Simple things that are never done.
1/27/2009 01:04:00 PM
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Or the washroom's at the Academy that have sewer flies coming out of the drains, flying around the sinks and toilets. Oh, that is really healthy!
The smell(sewer stench) at the front desk of the academy is beyond belief.
Have a plumber rod all the lines out!
"How is it any worse that a police station has to allow bums in its lobby versus any other public building?
I don't have a major issue with sweeping the bums out of public buildings and getting them to some kind of shelter, but the courts are going to look at that very closely.
here in my area the courts decided that the public library could not keep the bums out even though the smell from them was driving the public away and making the staff physically ill.
1/27/2009 03:59:00 PM"
Do they allow them to wander about inside city hall?
Even made it to EBay
http://blogs.ebay.com/kandjsmom04/entry/14-year-old-charged-with-impersonating-a-cop/_W0QQidZ831726018
go into 011 it smells like shit and incense
This is totally a hoot, SCC's breaking story made the Iranian Tehran Times today:
http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=187905
Psst, did anyone tell tell JUDY that HE GONE???????????????????
Speaking of these bums "living" in the stations......I used to work housing (west) stair wells just filled with piss, human(if you can call them that)shit,dirty diapers all garbage just thrown all over...at the end of the night, I remember blowing my nose and just having black shit coming out....This is what these Officers have to deal with. Makes me sick!!
I figured out why Daley can do whatever and not be questioned. His an informant for the F.B.I. Think about it.
1/27/2009 03:44:00 PM
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Told my family the same thing last night at dinner. It makes sense; it's the ONLY reason he wouldn't be worried about what's he's said on the tapes from the last few years.
Once upon a time a little well directed "mace" air freshener would make sleeping in the police station less desirable.
Speaking of 011,remember last week when the door to the lockup area was broken for nearly two weeks,all it would of took for a very determined prisoner to pretend to use the phone and wait for one of the officers to no be alert and "Bam" right through the first set of bars and to ward off pursuirs,close the gate behind him and he is off to the races.
The paper says Little Richie is demanding answers from Little Jody on how this happened.A 14 year old Police Officer?Well,Rich, probably the same way you hired a 19 year old building inspector.FUCK YOU!!!!
Virtually EVERYONE is questioning Daley's appointment of Huberman to the CPS. After all, it makes even the current local trend of insanity in government look good. But, the more I think about it, the more Huberman makes sense. Surround yourself with suckholes until there is basically nobody in any capacity who has any integrity or moral value. No questions....no problems for the King.
What's all this bullshit about needing identification to buy uniforms?I swear by GOD in 27 years at numerous uniform stores no one ever asked for identification.Am I the only one? Anybody else?
What do these "leaders" down at 3510 S Michigan need, a blood bath at a district station before they take the issue of security seriously?
Well, yes, that's a stupid question!
here in my area the courts decided that the public library could not keep the bums out even though the smell from them was driving the public away and making the staff physically ill.
1/27/2009 03:59:00 PM
I ask you, does that make ANY fucking sense? What the hell has happened to authority, order and simple common sense? Jesus fucking CHRIST!
I'm dying to hear who the asshole "veteran cop" was that rode with Opie for five hours. How long on the job? Just being a cop, you would think he/she had some sort of curiosity or intuition that there was sumthin' wrong!
Off Topic; Early today, Detective DC formerly of Area 4 and currently on disability, committed suicide. He left behind a wife and two grown daughters. Please keep him and his survivors in your prayers. In spite of all the other stuff going on, please take care of each other. Stay safe.
Anonymous said...
I'm sorry, but very OT:
This is unbelievable. Check this out - "Pocket Obama".
1/27/2009 12:36:00 PM
SO WHAT! Every MFer and their brother are trying to cash in now on the Obama name. This is just another guy getting peoples money by selling them something they are willing to pay for. It's called Capitalism!
Here is another security issue: I am retired cpd, flew into midway the other night from Vegas (Lost), but back to the story, I noticed no coppers around,so I went to the office to see how everything was going. Talked to a female desk officer who told they only had 3 officers working! I thought she was full of shit,so the next called I called my ex partner a unit rep for 051,who is on the medical for an injury. He told me that since miss ellyn came in she moved a sgt who bid in,then he rebid with more seniorty but she would not let him back result he is suing and get this the city will pay him time+1/2 for every hour he is gone due to her negligence. Next she did the same thing dumping a female that was a close friend and even though the fop and management and albor affirs agreed to let the female return ellyn did not let her! It gets better she cut every extra hour of overtime placing the airport employees,and all the flying public in jeopardy. the rep when he returns will go forward with a major safety complaint. I thought STEVER PETERSON who I worked for at O'Hare was in charge of this section! Steve always looked out for his coppers and safety was job #1, Now I guess the C.O. at midway will just cause another embarressing situation for the city as she has done in other districts. Was this not the same girl who let crump-hales the goof commander from 003 fly from the gun incident? According to my friend if any copper gets hurt there the safety lawsuit brought personally against her will bankrupt her and the airport! Whatever happened to bosses who took charge and stopped someone bent on destruction like ellyn?
Anonymous said...
From the the Trib:
"Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue, while acknowledging the incident was embarrassing, called it a fluke and not indicative of a wider security problem."
WTF? Has he ever been in a police station? Oh I forgot... Daley's hand is up his butt making his mouth move.
1/27/2009 06:44:00 PM
marka nd the funky bunch want jobs for family and friends after they are booted out of office next election!
Anonymous said...
you want to see a screwed up building? Try coming to Homan Square, The 3rd floor locker rooms are at a steady 100 degrees all year round, you are stinky and sweaty before you get started. There has been this God awful smell in the MFS offices ( Old SOS) for some time now, the building engineer says its coming thru the fresh air vents, Fresh air my ASS, the windows don't open so we can't get any outside air, Smoke alarms hand off the walls and don't have batteries in them, and while on this topic, it is said that 17 po's have requested to be returned to thier old asignment and want to leave MSF Company A, seems that the LT.is a little bit difficult to get along with.
1/27/2009 06:39:00 PM
MSF another reason not to join the idiots!
YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT! MSF DOESNT PUSH ARRESTS.... THEY COME WITH JUST BEING THE POLICE. GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE AND SLEEP. KEEP BEING PART OF THE NON-POLICE CHECK GRABBERS!
1/27/2009 05:21:00 PM
Enjoy your freedom while you can, in a year you'l be assigned to callback purgatory.
Most suburban departments have Citizenb Police Academys instead of CAPS. Attract decent, committed citizens, educate them, use them as a resource. We have CAPS, bumbs and people that attempot to expolit their CAPS involvement in the community for their own benefit.
Several of the letters have fallen off and it is just embarassing. I will pay to have it repaired, any idea where that can be done?
Anyone, anyone?
1/27/2009 12:57:00 PM
Use one of your kid's black crayons and rub in where the letter was.
I dare you to tell the difference on mine.
SCC - I really hate to say this, because I love reading about you guys and really have a much greater appreciation for what you do now.
But perhaps you should have a section of the site that is password protected for P.O.s only. Some of the stuff about particular stations and their security failings really do not need to be public knowledge.
Just my two cents. Love your blog and keep up the good work.
Not a P.O.
As you know, it's true. At the suburban PD I work at you need an access card to get into all areas of the building. Homeless people? We drive them to a homeless shelter. The suburban officers would not put up with what you guys and gals put up with. There would be a law suit for safety. The one thing that baffles me most is that there is not a bullet proof glass dividing the officers from the public. How many times has a nut climbed the desk in the first district and taken officers hostages? At least 2 times that I know of. I am sure there has to be more stories like this out there. You all need to have your spouses sue when things happen to you. I understand its hard to do things because of retalliation but how can they retalliate against your spouse ? They already have the worst punishment in the world-having to live in shitcago. What could be worse?
Why no widow has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the city is amazing. You all work with the worst equiptment and sometimes partner due to lack of training. It's sad to say but some of the in the line of duty deaths probably could of been avoided with the proper manpower and equiptment. All you need is one courageous widow.
Can someone call OSHA about Homan Square ?
Doesn't anyone understand? Its all about money! Everything else is just conversation! You idealistic Mfs gotta wake up! Waaaaaa Waaaaa Waaaa! I want a perfect world! I want everyone to work 8 hours!!!! Waaaaaa Waaaaaa Waaaaa wake up and if you don't like it QUIT! You can work your days off for straight time $36+ an hour or with senority $54+ and up! Try doing that in the private sector! Pimps, all of you!
JUST GET RID OF CAPS...THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING. THEY HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THEIR AREAS. PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING BECAUSE THE BEAT COPS THAT USE TO BE AT THE MEETINGS AREN'T THERE ANYMORE, SO YOU JUST HAVE A BUNCH OF DUMB ASSES THAT KNOW NOTHING RUNNING THE MEETINGS.
IDIOT CITY
Well one thing is for sure.....we now have a 14 year old, who has more street experience at being a Chicago Cop, than J-Fed himself.
Tony the bum lived in the old 010th district station for the 20+ years I was there.He used to sleep
by the radiators and stink up the
whole building.
Remember when guys would come late to roll call??? Tony the bum would say "Hey you're late. Thats enough of that shit!!!!" Man the good old Tenth District Rest In Peace Burns (Lock Up Keeper)
Never understood it?? They aren't in our firehouses?? Why was it ever allowed? You guys have to put up with enough shit.
Don't ever forget that it was one of these station bums that killed Rich Francis.
1/27/2009 01:18:00 AM
EXACTLY!!!!! WTF
Anonymous said...
And what about the PO's who refuse to have a female arrestee searched before she is brought into processing and has been there for 30 mins or more before they ask for a search.
There are more safety issues that need be disclosed.
1/27/2009 02:47:00 AM
Maybe its not that we refuse to have females searched, most of the time it.s not easy to find a female P.O. to do the search. And when you do find one, occasionally they will cop an attitude as if its not their job.
And what about the PO's who refuse to have a female arrestee searched before she is brought into processing and has been there for 30 mins or more before they ask for a search.
There are more safety issues that need be disclosed.
Oh god forbid you offend her dumb
ass, it is so ass backwards, unbelievable.
Why do we have to deal with these filthy orthopods lounging around our house. Send 'em to the nearest firehouse and see what happens.
1/27/2009 11:09:00 AM
They do come to the firehouses and we send them on their way,"keep walking". The smart bums say "they sick" and the ambulance takes them to the hospital.
"Off topic MSF is already fucked up. Sergeants pushing for numbers at any cost. At least with the old SOS if you were willing to take risks you were taken care of. They pimp you over nylon duty belts and little shit but want you to go out and bring in numbers."
Guess what, bright guy? NOBODY TOLD YOU to go out and purchase that "cool nylon shit" that the Dept. does NOT ALLOW you to wear for PATROL DUTY, so if you want to bitch someone out about it, stay off the blog, tell it to the idiot staring back at you in the mirror!
Asshat!
In regard to the poster who commented on the terrible CPD stars we now have, you are correct, my star looks fake also. Several of the letters have fallen off and it is just embarassing. I will pay to have it repaired, any idea where that can be done?
Anyone, anyone?
Pay to have it repaired?? Just use a black marker and fill the letters in yourself. Why spend $$ ?
"Wahhh I work in 018...
Wahhh I have to do a full tour...
Wahhh me me me.
Hey bitch, bid out.z'
I LOVE YOU, MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"1/27/2009 06:56:00 PM"
You've definitely set the bar extremely high, on the longest and most accurately descriptive sentence of our sad reality.
Kudos.
Mega kudos.
(ps: Letterman just did a 10 things on blago.)
How is the Superintendent getting a pass on all of this? If he is out of town, why isn't the media reporting where he is? Where is Sneed when you need her?
Somebody has some splaining to do Lucy.
Here is a suggestion for a media sweeps, rating giant.
The station that does this will win the sweeps hands down, viewership will be off the charts.
Do an investigative, undercover piece on the security of Chicago police and government facilities. You might be shocked and alarmed at what you discover in the process.
Send an undercover reporter to probe and violate police stations, gas pump facilities, motor pool areas, headquarters, area garages, detective areas, the academy, O'Hare and Midway Airports and the Jardine Water Filtration Plant.
Let us know what you find and tell us that we are whining about the inadequacies of security in Chicago. All city residents and visitors will Thank-You.
This could possibly save untold lives someday and serves the greater good of the public at large.
1. you! The members of this dept. re-elected president Donahue of the FOP even though he was inept!!!!
2. You had other choices!
WHEN WILL YOU THE MEMBERSHIP FIGURE OUT THAT THE FOP THAT SPEAKS OUT IS THE ONE YOU WANT! Men that will speak out!
Say NO!
Do Something!
Reap what you sow!
SCREAM AND YELL, THEY ARE BOUND TO LISTEN!@!! IF YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING THEN "YELL"!
The same goes for the MAYOR and his puppet city council!!!
VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!
NO TO EVERY INCUMBANT!!!!
Truth is Police Stations were always a gathering place for homeless, and troubled people. The old 18th Dist. The Old Maxwell St Station, 12th dist. always had a lot of people sleeping on the stairs etc.
I am not saying it was correct, but that's just the way it was.
off topic.
here's an article about how vancouver which is hosting the winter olympics is losing their ass.
can't wait for our turn
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=adcuriBJeCYM&refer=home
Does anyone get the subtle impression that Ron Huberman is the next defacto Mayor of Chicago?
He is being groomed for the position and has functioned as the head of the CTA, Mayoral Chief of Staff, OEC Director, CPD Deputy Superintendent and CPD patrolman.
It is quite obvious that the Mayor loves him and the business community loves him.
I am venturing to say that Mayor Huberman will be a reality in the next couple of years.
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