Burris "Amends" Answers
Amazing.
There are "Lies" and then there are "Lies of Omission." Burris would seem guilty of the second at the very least. His blaming the lack of follow-up questioning to his obvious non-answer is disingenuous.
How about we have every officers who's ever been accused of a Rule 14 Violation turn up to file "amended" answers to the Complaint Review Panel that suspended, sustained or fired them and see if they don't get laughed out of the hearing?
There are "Lies" and then there are "Lies of Omission." Burris would seem guilty of the second at the very least. His blaming the lack of follow-up questioning to his obvious non-answer is disingenuous.
How about we have every officers who's ever been accused of a Rule 14 Violation turn up to file "amended" answers to the Complaint Review Panel that suspended, sustained or fired them and see if they don't get laughed out of the hearing?
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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"His blaming the lack of follow-up questioning to his obvious non-answer is disingenuous."
Yeah. I saw the whole thing tonight on TV; he was very specifically asked -- name by name including Blagojevich's brother -- if he had talked to a long list of people.
He leaned over, consulted with his attorney, and came back with "I talked to some friends."
He should not have been allowed to get away with ignoring the question like that.
sounds like a legal precedent set by our own senator! THANK YOU SENATOR! FLOP attorneys taking note???
Anything that comes out of this shit city is a lie! Burris is just part of the Chicago way.
How about we have every officers who's ever been accused of a Rule 14 Violation turn up to file "amended" answers to the Complaint Review Panel that suspended, sustained or fired them and see if they don't get laughed out of the hearing?
SCC,
The Complaint Review Panel is only for suspensions of 15 days and below, anything above 15 days (including termination) is administered by the Police Board.
I understood your point but felt the need to clarify what the CRP and Police Board responsibilities are.
Could there have been any doubt that something like this would happen ?
When Burris' name surfaced as Blago's appointee to the US Senate, everyone jumped up in protest, including the US Senate! Gee! You think this might have been why ?
The beady-eyed snake, Burris, should be prosecuted by the same Illinois Congressional body that he perjured himself in front of and sentenced to prison, (aka, the bone yard for boneheaded politicians!).
Some stimulus money could then be used to hire an out of work mausoleum engraver to add to Burris' 'Tombstone of Arrogance', this accomplishment, "First African American US Senator to be imprisoned like white US Senators have been for years ! We've Come A Long Way Baby !"
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It's simply a "do-over".
Just like taking a Mulligan.
I don’t know if these politicians really get it, they are so into their ways of lies and corruption, I guess they don’t see the dark clouds on the horizon and there getting tired, people are feed up with the bullshit. Now they have “change they can believe in”, no shit, Chicago style politics at its best, cabinet picks and the transparency, wow it’s just so crystal clear. Anyone notice the attitude change on the street? Just wait I think it’s going to tank sooner than later, I hope I’m wrong.
Politicians and journalists aren't held to a double, I mean higher standard like the police. Ya'll is racist.
Jon Burge was charged with perjury and is facing ten years in a Federal prison based on claims of convicted felons for incidents that might of happened 25 years ago.
Roland Burris appears to have perjured himself in front of the Illinois State Senate and the evidence is available to prosecutors because the taped the conversations.
If Burge can be indicted then Burris should be also!
This weasly old fuck should be charged to the fullest extent possible, he is a liar plain and simple. You know how you can tell, his lips were moving!!!
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/02/burris-to-embark-on-listening-tour.html
Well, the madigans are making their moves to consolidate their political power.
How about we 'look into' mike and lisa madigan's activities?
"He should not have been allowed to get away with ignoring the question like that.
2/17/2009 12:06:00 AM"
So, why was he?
You don't think the entire blago hearings weren't carefully orchestrated, do you?
And you don't think that ousting blago was the only thing they were about, do you?
And you don't think that the madigans, daleys, strogers, et al., are going to go quietly into that dark night, do you?
It's not a lie if you believe it to be true.
Or if you are trying to cover up some shady Chicago politics.
Either way, he's a knucklehead who played by the rules and will now be exonerated for his ability to crumble the delicate flower that is the Chicago way.
It reaches all the way to the White House so they have to let it slide. Blago, Rezko, Patty, Burris, Daley, PBO, the whole lot of them.
Crooked is as crooked does.
Cone of Silence said...
Could there have been any doubt that something like this would happen ?
When Burris' name surfaced as Blago's appointee to the US Senate, everyone jumped up in protest, including the US Senate! Gee! You think this might have been why ?
The beady-eyed snake, Burris, should be prosecuted by the same Illinois Congressional body that he perjured himself in front of and sentenced to prison, (aka, the bone yard for boneheaded politicians!).
Some stimulus money could then be used to hire an out of work mausoleum engraver to add to Burris' 'Tombstone of Arrogance', this accomplishment, "First African American US Senator to be imprisoned like white US Senators have been for years ! We've Come A Long Way Baby !"
Not a thing will happen to him he will play the RACE CARD just like he did to become a Senator. He played the race card years ago when the media caught him in one of his indiscretions and they immediately backed off.
But Burris is so Politically-Correct for the job! So what if he's a liar and a lifelong phony Shitcago Machine Connected Politician.
The New Song Rolan Rolan like the the PRISON. Thank God theres enough room left on his tomb stone self love monumnet-SEMPER FI
Those idiots asking the questions should have immediately noticed how he was avoiding giving any direct answers. They're all morons.
I just read a link from the Tribune that Burris is looking forward to the new investigation.
U.S. Sen. Roland Burris says he is open to a Senate ethics investigation into how he got the Senate seat from ex-Gov. Rod Blagojevich. Latest developments from the Tribune's Breaking News Center:
I wish they would get him out of there and let there be an election for the Senate seat in April.
I also heard on the radio this AM that there is a question of whether Harry Reid and Dick Durbin were aware of this new statement he made but kept it under wraps to make sure the Democrats had enough of people to pass the Stimulus Bill.
Who knows? I don't know if I trust any of these people any more. Supposedly Barbara Flynn Currie had this amended statement and sat on it for a while. She said she didn't realise what it was all about. Yea!
If it looks like a Weasel, walks like a Weasel, talks like a Weasel, then , it's probably a Weasel.
Illinois to change state motto from "Land of Lincoln" to "Land a Senate seat for 2,000 Lincolns."
"If I dinit say it, how iz it a lie?" mmmmmmmhuh ya know watt I'm sayin???
The former boy governor blagoawich made a wise pick one of his own rolan burris. Birds of a feather stick together. They both talk with a fork tongue. Hoody Dudy and Clara Bell, what a circus.
So What, The Dems won't stand behind him in 2010. At this time we have Durbin wineing and dining his new boyfriend,
Geocrapodopoulis or what ever his fucking name is in Greece singing I'M WALKING BEHIND YOU in a very romantic setting. Durbin is setting this dillweed dipshit up for Senator in 2010. After all his daddy owns a bank and there is plenty of money for Durbin.
Don't worry about Ole Algonquin J. Calhoun, he is a nothing.
Immediately Rep. Danny Davis came to his defense. Rep. Bobby Rush has warned against the "lynching" of Burris.
WHEN IS IT GOING TO STOP - WHY CAN'T BLACK AMERICA SEE THE FOREST THROUGH THE TREES. THE MAN IS A FLAT OUT LIAR AND EVERY BLACK POL WILL STAND IN HIS CORNER.
Grow up and start using your brain for something other than watching PM Judge whoever shows.
Burris is just like the rest of the pols. He is pissing on your leg and telling you it's raining. "Hay senator, are you pissing on my leg"? No no, see you feel the water and the water is there but it's raining, "I'm not realy pissing on you leg". And we go on and on and on.
Liar Liar Liar! Once dude got his seat he changed his testimony and tune on Blago. How typical.
MANY MOONS AGO
A NATIVE AMERICAN DETECTIVE TOLD ME
"FOLLOW THE TRAIL OF THE SNAKE
IT WILL LEAD YOU TO THE PIT. "
SO MANY SNAKES,SO MANY TRAILS, SO
MANY PITS.
HOW MUCH ARE THE FEDS WILLING TO
SPEND ON THESE CASES?
ST. PATRICK, HELP!
Tell me where Burris mausoleum is.
Will Roland have to change his Gravesite?
And so now he's admitted to doing just a little bit of fundraising for Rod, after all. Surprise.
Next week, he'll simply remember a little felony he was party to. And the week after that...
What people around the country don't understand, when they hear about Illinois politics, is that we've become so ACCUSTOMED to our politicians' corrupt behavior, we just don't react anymore. Sad.
"Those idiots asking the questions should have immediately noticed how he was avoiding giving any direct answers. They're all morons.
2/17/2009 01:52:00 PM"
What makes you think they didn't notice?
Apparently, Lisa Madigan doesn't have the testicular fortitude to go after "Blurris". She is handing it off to the Sangamon County SA so she doesn't cause hard fillings with African American vote when she runs against Quinn for the governor's seat.
The Sangamon SA should also go after Barbara "Crypt Keeper" Flynn-Currie for delaying the release of Blurris revisionist affidavit.
I am wondering if Blago set-up Blurris on this one. Blago had to know who was recorded by the Feds and figured Blurris would eventual get caught up in the investigation.
Blago wants to take down as many other pols as he heads to trial. Blago knows the great equalizer in public opinion is playing the race card. He just had to find someone to play it for him.
Start the call for VAASCCI - Vote Against All State, County and City Incumbents.
Daley and Durbin are the snakes behind all of this. All a ploy to get the useless Lisa Madigan into the spot.
Sangamon County State's Attorney is a Republican seat warmer who's idling until a judgeship becomes available.
He is a joke, his office is weak and he's known to lujack all heater cases to the State's Attorney's Appellate Prosecutor for final burial.
Both Schmidt and the SAAP are perfected types -- county and state prosecutors who are too corrupt or incompetent to prosecute politicians. When's the last time you heard any prosecutor but a fed do the job?
Prediction: Schmidt will find some "conflict" as an excuse to lujack Burris to the SAAP, where it will linger forever until the dust settles, then be quietly dismissed, or he will find no crime.
btw, 2 of Schmidt's prosecutors got arrested by the feds for drug offenses -- get the picture?
http://www.illinoistimes.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=6960
http://illinoistimes.com/gyrobase/PrintFriendly?oid=oid%3A7342
A few months ago it was noted in an Illinois Times story that criminal cases against Dan Mills and John “Jake” Kelley — the two former assistant Sangamon County state’s attorneys named in the “cocaine ring” investigation — would be virtually impossible to prosecute because of the protection conferred by immunity agreements combined with a lack of evidence [see Dusty Rhodes, “Blown away,” Oct. 25]. Last week that opinion was echoed by Charles Zalar of the Office of the State’s Attorneys Appellate Prosecutor. Zalar issued a press release announcing that no charges would be filed against Mills, Kelley, or five other individuals. Zalar quoted the immunity letters each of the men had signed, explicitly promising no state prosecution, plus the “complete lack of evidence which would normally be used” — no drugs found, no taped conversations, no undercover drug buys. Zalar had held these men’s fates in his hands since July 2006. We wanted to ask why it took a noted attorney such as himself 18 months to decipher the plain language of the immunity letters and discover the dearth of evidence, but he was out of the office and unavailable for comment both Monday and Tuesday of this week.
just watched the news, they did some street interviews asking them what they thought of Burris' actions. All of them except one m/1 said, "so what if he lied, they should have asked better questions"
Everyday Chicago takes a hit, maybe the outsiders will see some of the indiscretions by CPD were ingrained into them by the actions of the so called leaders of Chicago.
You can blame Blago for this one.
Strip him of his "Senate Star" Send Burris to 311 until the investigation is complete....in about 3 years.
Burris, like all local politicians, can't separate truth/lies. It's part of the Chicago/Illinois way of doing things.
Wait til ALEXI gets the seat and we get funded for the Olympics!
Back when Burris was nominated, I was one of the first posters on this site that challenged scc readers to " find dirt on him" I also commented Burris should be senator today, mayor tomorrow.
I stand corrected. He's too corrupt to be senator, but not corrupt enough to be mayor.
Once again, this is Daley's fault.
Hey,
Ain't nothing gonna happen to him. Except in two years when only the rev's will back him. No pockets deep enough. He should have thought twice about pissing off dick durbin. I don't think folks will have real short memories on this one.
This Burris thing is not like the first time Illinois politicians have given the citizens a big -- Fuck You.
It's appaling they let Burris off with saying he talked to some "friends" with out the follow-up question of, "friends like Rod's brother or any other person with great influence with the Govenor?"
Burris gave his rope-a-dope answer, a lie, because he knew if he told the truth he wasn't going to get seated to Obama's seat.
Not a one of his questioners, our legislators, pressed him on his blantly vauge answer because they KNEW the answer.
The whole thing of Burris' going before them was a dog and pony show.
Look, come on, aside from all of that, you could see he was not worthy of the appointment because of his narccisitic (sp) tendencies et. al.; and his Mosoleum and where he was caught on camera catching himself in mid sentence stating that he would use any means neccessary to get appointed! I can't remember what channel that was on but I explicitly remember hearing it. That alone should have disqualified him.
The fix was in...had to be. This is Illinois, It always is!
Nothing is going to change in Illinois unless a majority of well-meaning people take hold of the only tool left, given to us by our founding fathers, and vote every one of these bastard politicians out, even with some good ones sadly. Drain the swamp!
And then, start getting rid of their family members in government jobs.
It may be too late. I don't know but I do know that many of those who have been producing and going to work everyday and paying their bills and being taxed to shit are really getting tired of these people in politics. Politics as Kinky Friedman of Texes explains as Poly meaning many and Tics meaing blood suckers.
We should picket the right to have an election for Obama's seat!
Buck Naked
(not a Cop)
Tell me where Burris mausoleum is.
+++++++++++++
Oak Hills Cemetery --71st & Cottage
Ever seen Once Upon A Time In America? Flick about Jewish kids coming up in New York City in the '20s, how they become gangsters.
One kid wants the favors of an older girl in his tenement, so he goes to the pushcart on the corner and spends his last nickel on the biggest, fanciest cupcake that can be had, all covered with whipped cream and with a big cherry on top.
He bears this masterpiece in both hands before him, back up the street and into his building.
Knocks on the gal's door. The mother answers. "Rachel will be down in a few minutes."
The kid sits on the landing to wait. Gets to looking at that cupcake. First tries a bit of the whipped cream with his finger, then smooths the spot over so no one will see.
Boy, that was good.
He tries a little more. Then a lot more.
Then he snaps, cramming the whole thing into his mouth and chewing and gulping, his eyes closed in ecstasy. Gone.
Rachel comes out. "Did you want something?"
"Uh...uh...no."
He bolts down the stairs.
The picture they were painting was of the "poor impulse control" that came out in a very big way much later in the movie, when the boy had become an adult.
My point here?
Roland Burris is the kid sitting in the stairwell cramming that cupcake into his mouth. He never should have taken the position in the first place -- but the shining cherry on the top was just too big for him. He simply couldn't control himself.
He will be equally unable to resign now. The day will come when two men in white coats,one on each side, will gently but firmly usher Burris off down that long marble hallway, as he feebly insists "We are the Senator. We are the Senator from Illinois" until the double bronze doors to the outside shut behind him with a muffled boom.
Charles Thomas of ABC-Channel 7 news just this moment said that Burris "seemed to be having an out-of-body experience" at his latest press conference, "referring to himself in the third person."
Thomas also criticized Barbara Flynn Currie for her claims of "not having had time" to read Burris' after-the-fact affidavit. Thomas waved a copy of the affidavit in the studio and said, "I have it right here. It's three pages long and it took me only 45 seconds to read."
Good guy.
Pension Portability SB2520 was passed in the house and the Senate. Most of the senators voted for it...yes some were Republicans. So quit your goddamn bitching. Its is now law since Gov. Quinn signed it on 17 Feb 09. You should shut your f%$king mouth if this is your only misinformed subject matter. AMEN
Liar piece of shit. Another one.
Resign now you lying little sneak.
"Tell me where Burris's mausoleum is.
+++++++++++++
Oak Hills Cemetery --71st & Cottage"
--2/18/2009 04:21:00 PM
Teachers -- heads up. Great place for a class tour to graphically illustrate your explanation of the word "hubris."
Have the bus driver swing by Blagojevich's place too. "Once the governor of the whole state, you can see that all his guards are gone and no one cares about him anymore. Look at the stray dog digging up the flower bed..."
APNewsBreak: Black pastors to ask Burris to resign
By TAMMY WEBBER, Associated Press Writer Tammy Webber, Associated Press Writer – 10 mins ago
CHICAGO – A Chicago minister told The Associated Press he and other black pastors who previously supported U.S. Sen. Roland Burris now plan to ask him to resign. The minister spoke Thursday on condition of anonymity because a meeting with Burris hadn't yet been scheduled...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090219
/ap_on_re_us/burris_blagojevich
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