Friday, February 20, 2009

Illinois Carry?

  • A state House panel is recommending that the General Assembly give Illinois residents the right to carry concealed weapons.

    The two proposals are expected to garner opposition from Chicago-area lawmakers, who have expressed concern about increased gun violence.

    The U.S. Supreme Court's ruling last summer overturning a handgun ban in Washington D.C., and an endorsement of concealed carry by the Illinois Sheriffs' Association has given a boost to supporters of a concealed weapon law.

    House Bill 245, sponsored by Marion Democratic Rep. John Bradley, would allow the Illinois State Police to issue the permits. It was endorsed Wednesday on an 11-1 vote, with Democratic state Rep. Julie Hamos of Evanston the lone opponent.

It's a shift no matter how you slice it. Hopefully, the down-staters lead the charge and force the issue this session.

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74 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago area law-makers are worried about increased gun violence?????

Are you kidding me??

Now thats funny considering that Chicago is more deadly than Iraq or Afganistan.

2/20/2009 12:14:00 AM  
Blogger lathrop one said...

ITS ABOUT TIME. Cool looking Beretta aint it?(and YES I carry that) Now lets see what Shortshanks shithead pulls out of his ass to try to stop it this time. Heller,Hayworth,ect ect ect mean anything to you you fat worthless money grubbing slug?

2/20/2009 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It wasn't too long ago we once stood tall, and would not let one of our brothers fall. When Terry, and Phil were our our Supt's we looked out for each other, like we should! We don't have the luxury of going to sit in a desk job and know what our day has in store for us. We are faced with the worst that this city has to offer.(OUTRAGEOUS MURDER RATE, NUMEROUS RAPINGS IN BUCKTOWN AND OTHER "SAFE" NEIGHBORHOODS, SHOOTINGS EVERYDAY, HIGHSCHOOL KIDS MURDERED EVERY WEEKEND, THOUSANDS OF CAR BREAK-INS, GAFFITI EVERYWHERE, AND ON TOP OF THAT EVERYDAY STRESSORS. People wonder why Chicago's Finest are at their breaking point. Well take a look at what we are up against. It honestly breaks our hearts when the public, who we miss family dinners for, family birthdays, holiday vacations, and sacrifice our lives for, can't stand by our side. This job is not easy, and never has been. Dealing with the worst society has to offer can take it's toll on any man after a certain point. Here is a quote by a man who many respected. He is one of our own. John Thomas. "WHEN YOU BEGIN TO DOUBT THE NOBILITY OF YOU MISSION OR THE SANCTITY OF YOUR PROFESSION BECAUSE YOUR HEART IS HEAVY, OR YOU FEEL ANGER, DISILLUSIONMENT, DISENFRACHISEMENT, BETRYAED OR CONFUSED - STOP AND LISTEN TO THE VOICES RISING FROM THOSE SACRED STARS THAT ARE ENSHRINED AT 35TH STREET; THE VOICES THAT RISE UP FROM THE FOLDED CITY FLAGS THAT ARE ENCASED AND AT REST IN HOMES THROUGHOUT THIS CITY; LISTEN TO THE VOICES RISING FROM A FIELD IN PENNSYLVANIA, FROM A WALL AT THE PENTAGON, AND FROM THE SPOT OF EARTH THE WORLD HAS COME TO KNOW AS GROUND ZERO. BECAUSE IF YOU LISTEN, YOU WILL HEAR THOSE SOULS TELL YOU "THANK YOU" FOR WHAT YOU DO AS THE POLICE, HEAR THEM CHEERING YOU ON. LET THEM CARRY YOU THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT MOMENT, ALLOW THEM TO NOURISH YOU AND ENCOURAGE YOU - AND DOUBT NO MORE - FOR YOU ARE WARRIORS AND CHAMPIONS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE GONE BEFORE AND TO THOSE MOST VULNERABLE NOW. YOU ARE ADMIRED AND RESPECTED, FOR YOU ARE THE BEST AT WHAT YOU DO. GOD BLESS AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!

-Future Supt.

Remember that we are the glue that keeps this city together. Let the politicians bribe each other and scam the taxpayers out of their money. Our job is to watch each others backs, make it home to the ones we love, and to protect Chicago's citizens. They deserve the best that we have to offer. Remember, our own Brothers in Blue have lost blood on Chicago's streets. Don't forget why we are here, and always stick together, because we are all that we have!!!!!!

2/20/2009 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have merit suggestions.

To be even considered to be a sgt to the above.

a minimum of one.

1. involved in a shooting
2. Shot in the line of duty.
3. 800 arrests as first or second officer
4. 200 felony arrest as first officer.

Plus, never to have worked inside in during your first five years.

Just this would improve our bosses.

2/20/2009 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if passed, the Daley Crime Family will use Home Rule powers to stop CCW in Crook County and Chicago.

2/20/2009 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's about time !!!!

Many good citizens have been armed for a long time.

They did so at the risk of arrest & prosecution, but felt they had a legit reason to be fearful of being caught without their weapon. Many good pistol packers told me that " I'd rather you catch me with my gun than some thug catch me without it:"

I came on the job in the mid 60's. UUW was a misdemeanor offense. It was not un-common to recover 20+ weapons per police period, per Tact Unit .Times have shifted towards being 5+ times worse today. Decent folks deserve the option of legally arming themselves or not. I hope this Illinois Carry can overcome the resistance of shortshanks & his minions.

I retired from the job after 33 yrs of service. I totally support Concealed Carry in Illinois/Chicago.

Our citizens deserve the right to self defense.

2/20/2009 02:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ot-i hear that u needed 18 yrs to get the last spot of 10 openings in mass transit. what about 008,012, 022, 017 and 019 . oh yea and the 1 spot central had open?

2/20/2009 02:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes SCC, this is a shift all right.
Its something criminals fear much more than cameras. The bad news is that shortshanks will mess this up for city residents with his home rule. The only hope for city folks may be a huge legal action if the bill is in effect statewide.
Some folks will carry anyway, if they are serious about protection.
Dont pinch me, bro ! Its only for self defense !

2/20/2009 02:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They see the handwriting on the wall and are already trying to block it:

Short Description: FIREARM OWNERS ID-INSURANCE

House Sponsors
Rep. Kenneth Dunkin

Synopsis As Introduced

Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act.

Provides that any person who owns a firearm in this State shall maintain a policy of liability insurance in the amount of at least $1,000,000 specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=687&GAID=10&SessionID=76&LegID=41158

It will probably apply to you, too, once you retire. It won't apply to professional lawbreakers, however.

FYI - It looks like Shore Galleries is about out of ammo. Sales have been "brisk" since the new administration came in.

Join the NRA today. Protect your future rights - you won't be a cop forever.

2/20/2009 02:57:00 AM  
Anonymous westside, inside do-nothing said...

NICE!!!! But the rocket-in-my-pocket is hard enough (don't take that literally, Keesing Bandit) to conceal while donning winter garments, let alone the summery-type duds I sport come, oh, say...early-June.

I sure hope the likes of Safariland Leather goods can concoct (sorry again, Keesing Bandit. It's con "coct", not con "cocked") some kind of holster/restraint for me.

2/20/2009 03:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't wait to hear Shortshanks wailing and moaning about this.....you know he will be trying to torpedo it....

2/20/2009 03:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good. It's about fucking time. Us non-police have been waiting forever for the *right* to defend ourselves! It'll take some heat off of you guys too; I don't see how this is anything short of a win-win.

2/20/2009 03:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mayor "no balls" shortshanks will fight this every step of the way. That jagballs doesn't and wont allow you to purchase a gun in shitcago. Do you think he's going to allow this to pass?

2/20/2009 04:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really hope this passes! We can't be the police to protect citizens anymore anyway!

The city doesn't want to give us a contract even though my costs still go up!

At every turn, this city, the dept. [J-Fed] and citizens are trying to fuck with and or fire officers out here for doing our jobs and dealing with assholes everyday, that they themselves couldn't have a better answer to deal with these mopes!

Hell, J-Fed has NEVER been the police, so how would he know what it's like dealing with a "piss bum on a bus" for example!

Maybe honest citizens will have a fighting chance, because I have de-policed!

2/20/2009 06:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey SCC you should post this on your front page..
Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009

Ammunition Accountability Legislation

Remember how Obama said that he wasn’t going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacturer in a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011 (Including hand loaded ammo). They will also charge a 5 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!

If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this BILL!!

To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to: AmmunitionAccountability.org

2/20/2009 06:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, but the only way to get concealed carry passed is to exclude Chicago.

2/20/2009 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/20/2009
Promotion to sgt. How stupid. Did you really graduate from highschool?

2/20/2009 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:23AM THE CITIZENS OF CHICAGO THAT GAVE US THE MESIAH THE MAYOR AND STROGER. I KNOW WHAT THEY DESERVE. YOU SOUND LIKE A DORK. YOU SHOULD WRITE SONGS FOR GILBERT O SULLIVAN.

2/20/2009 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean my wife might be able to actually carry a weapon and kill one of the invaders from west of Sacramento in an act of self to defense? Well, this is Illinois, Shitcago, and Crook County. So I am sure that the rights of the law abiding citizens will still be curtailed due to the acts of the chosen people.

2/20/2009 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The most likely outcome is for the alternate version of the bill to pass, giving the local Sheriff final say on whether a permit is issued; this is the same model as California has today, where LA County only issues to the rich and famous....

I don't see Home Rule coming into play in that scenario, and I don't see Chicago actually putting up a legal challenge to any new state legislation.

Post-heller, the last thing Daley wants to see is a challenge to Chicago's draconian gun laws make it further up the chain than his pet Judges on the Cook County Circuit court.

Daley may piss and moan, but he's not going to do anything substantive that could force the city to re-open handgun registration.

2/20/2009 07:24:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

I have never been afraid of pocket rockets. I have handled many in my time.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

2/20/2009 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While reviewing my 20 year carreer I realized that out of all the people I arrested for UUW, I had never run across one who had an FOID card.Could it be that legitimate gunowners are law abiding citizens?

Support House Bill 245

2/20/2009 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only reason this or any other state would even CONSIDER giving out CC permits is to jam the permit fees up our ass. Indiana had these and they cost 10 bucks at the time I had one and I don't recall whether I ever had to renew it or not before I left.

You can rest assured though, it's due to the possible CASH INFLOW that this will pass and you can bet your ass they will charge a hefty fee and you'll be paying it EVERY YEAR to keep it.

2/20/2009 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I have merit suggestions.

To be even considered to be a sgt to the above.

a minimum of one.

1. involved in a shooting
2. Shot in the line of duty.
3. 800 arrests as first or second officer
4. 200 felony arrest as first officer



Yeah, and any one of those excuses means your capable of leading others and making supervisory decisions?

The only thing your "criteria" points out is that your merit pick is:

1. A court whore
2. A relatively FNG who doesn't know any better
3. A moron who gets himself into trouble and gets shot
4. A guy who can't solve day to day problems and focuses on the one thing he can do right, 1 bagger rock arrests = ( your felony pinch )

You sir need an education, maybe then you'll realize the better policeman is the one who does it all, not just the blockhead court whores or morons who get caught in the wrong place at the wrong time and get themselves hurt.

2/20/2009 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we may get the carry law sed but look at the follow that is also possible to passpasShort Description:
WE ALL MUST FIGHT THIS CRAP.


FIREARM OWNERS ID-INSURANCE

House Sponsors
Rep. Kenneth Dunkin

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
2/6/2009 House Referred to Rules Committee

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
430 ILCS 65/4.5 new
430 ILCS 65/8 from Ch. 38, par. 83-8


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that any person who owns a firearm in this State shall maintain a policy of liability insurance in the amount of at least $1,000,000 specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person. Provides that a person shall be deemed the owner of a firearm after the firearm is lost or stolen until such loss or theft is reported to the police department or sheriff of the jurisdiction in which the owner resides. Provides that the Department of State Police shall revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under this Act if the Department finds that the person to whom such card was issued possesses or acquires a firearm and does not submit evidence to the Department of State Police that he or she has been issued in his or her name a liability insurance policy in the amount of at least $1,000,000 specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person. Effective January 1, 2010.

Actions
Date Chamber Action
2/5/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Kenneth Dunkin
2/6/2009 House First Reading
2/6/2009 House Referred to Rules Committee



:

2/20/2009 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need to stop the "Durkin $1,000,000" gun insurance policy!!

2/20/2009 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I, as a Chicago police officer, do not fear the law abiding citizens carrying guns. I have nothing to fear from a good person that chooses to protect themselves from the very evil we face every day. I say it's about time. I know the vast majority of us in patrol will support this but I also know the vast majority of the brass and politicians in Chicago will be against it. For the brass and Politicians, you had better listen to this verse. "Power isn't all that money buys". The people will have their say in this.

2/20/2009 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully this will pass and then people can carry to the taste and the Olympics (I hope we don't get them).

It sure would make dude think twice before walking up on somebody.

2/20/2009 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But guys.......according to daley, the gun laws are working!!!!!! Hell, look at all the law abiding citizens getting shot by the bad guys!!! yes Daley, "your" gun laws are really working. Thats why i went out and got myself a SIG. Works fine with me. If Daley was smart, (and hes not) he let the people have their rights back. Its the Democratic way, huh?
There was no Home Rule attached to this bill, by the way. But Daley will find a way though. Hey Daley....listen up!

2/20/2009 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the General Assembly gives Illinois residents the right to carry concealed weapons, expect the following response from Lil' Richie and the Fifty Thieves:

1] Using taxpayer money against our will, he will challenge the law through the court system and tie it up in legal motions for years;

2] While throwing our tax money into the state legal battle, The Midget will have the Aldersheep pass a flurry of local Home Rule ordinances banning local residents from the eventual state law;

3] The Daley Crime Family will then institute ordinances impounding weapons from any Illinois resident with a legitimate state CCW permit caught in Chicago;

4] Penalties for violation the City gun laws will be in the form of $10,000 fines paid directly to the Chicago 2016 fund. To appeal your conviction, a non-refundable court processing fee of $8,000 will be required and if your appeal is unsuccessful, the $10,000 fine is still payable. Note: No appeal will be successful !

2/20/2009 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It figures, Julie Hamos was an ASA during daley's tenure as crook county state's attorney. And if I am not mistaken she did have some sort of supervisory spot, she was not a real prosecutor, just getting her resume in order to enter politics. A daley clone with an agenda.

2/20/2009 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: The Dunkin proposal requiring a one million dollar insurance policy.

Representative Kenneth Dunkin (D) 5th District is a black Chicago machine politician. He also sits on (Surprise - surprise!!) the Insurance Committee. Can anyone say Conflict of Interest? "

2/20/2009 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DALEY WILL KILL IT WITH HOMERULE BUT WILL KEEP HIS 15 MAN SECURITY DETAIL ON SGTS PAY

2/20/2009 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oops...does this mean I am currently not supposed to carry?

2/20/2009 11:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have merit suggestions.

To be even considered to be a sgt to the above.

a minimum of one.

1. involved in a shooting
2. Shot in the line of duty.
3. 800 arrests as first or second officer
4. 200 felony arrest as first officer.

Plus, never to have worked inside in during your first five years.

Just this would improve our bosses.

2/20/2009 12:25:00 AM

Well this would mean we would never have a sgt from any north side district!!!
(i'm just fine with that by the way)

2/20/2009 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous THE OH-19 RANGER said...

I too, believe in the citizens right
to pack. Trouble is, in Lakeview and L.Park, these liberal yuppies are scared of guns and would rather submit to being robbed. This way, they can be healthy enough to beef on responding POs for perceived excessive force.
To LATHROP ONE: someday we'll link up
at the "projects" and I'll show you
where the "Cross of Iron" grows...

2/20/2009 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"ot-i hear that u needed 18 yrs to get the last spot of 10 openings in mass transit. what about 008,012, 022, 017 and 019 . oh yea and the 1 spot central had open?:

Appaently you never worked 008; should not be included with the other Districts. In a back log from the beginning of your tour to the end. It is way too large to patrol effectively. It is not unheard of for your assist to be coming from Harlem when your on Western.
It is not your Daddies District.

2/20/2009 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 12:23 post. Been at this a long time. (revolver as a standard) Each time I read that I cry. Thank you and god bless YOU. It isnt the battle,it isnt the hunting down armed men(hell YES it is.....) it isnt the crap we are fed daley(get it?) Its about being there for eachother. What we do in the street STAYS in the street. If you know that phrase you know me.There is Honor and Integrity in what we do dont NONE of youse ever forget that. Now get out there and get some heads!

A little older and grayer but dammit Im still fightin.

2/20/2009 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well heres food for thought:

a.Beretta model 96 custom
b. 2 kimber custom 45's
c. S/W model 4006
d. S/w MP-4 inn .308 compensated
e. Benelli 12 ga.
f. Armalite AR-15 in 308
g. S/W Model 686 ported
h. SW model 459 sleeved barrel
(competition/target model)
j. Winchester .308
k. Ruger GP 101 2 1/2 inch
l. Israeli Arms Desert Eagle in
1. 50 cal
2. 44 magnum
3. 357(for "plinking")
When you come for MINE daley be very careful when you knock at the door. I wont give em up easy.

2/20/2009 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Mayor did everything he could,to stop Retired Members from Concealed Carry.
He feels retired cops with guns,would be very dangerous.
Truth is its more now about fear of a armed population.
All the politicians know, that we know, the truth about them.
The Time is coming closer to see "Who is going to Eat Cake"

2/20/2009 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Dont pinch me, bro! Its only for self defense!"

----------------------------

The truth is that a normal citizen with a snubby or G26/27 in his pocket will likely only ever come to the attention of a cop after having to use it. If it comes up before that, OFFICER DISCRETION comes into play.....

As an old Irish Sgt. told a friend of mine back in the early 90's, after a 'situation"....

"Just remember me lad, ya pulled yer gun out afffterhh he hit ya..."

Stay Safe out there Guys....

2/20/2009 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous militantmarksman said...

Heaven forbid Illinois citizens learn what empowerment is,by learning to protect themselves.Even worse,what will the mainstream media has nothing to report except stories of citizens laying the wood to the various parasites of this city.Old shortshanks will try to slink away and hide out with the revruns, when it is proven here just like everywhere else , that armed citizenry = less crime.?

2/20/2009 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

congrats to the chicago police for capturing those two scumbag gang bangers that gunned down the businessman from Mount Greenwood for no apparent reason.

2/20/2009 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's all bullshit.

They know its a popular bill. If it ever advanced as far as the Governor's desk, they know it will be vetoed. Its safe to vote for it now and deny responsibility when it never passes.

Case closed.

2/20/2009 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) Did anyone see the video with oiley eddie burke sticking up for the criminal burris? When will Fitzgerald get daley-burke and the little snake stroger,thrown in the madigans for fun and the 50 weak sheep!

2/20/2009 04:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my gun protects my home , my wife ,my kids ,my life, nuff said.

2/20/2009 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SCC,

I was in shore galleries the other day and heard about the new compact weapons that have been approved for certain units. I was like what the hell is this BS. I would love to be able to carry a small backup or off duty weapon.
WTF? How about giving this option to street police.

2/20/2009 04:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't Chicago enact or bare the law the same way it outlawed handguns in the city, "Home Rule"?

2/20/2009 05:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Three kids, 13, 15 and 17, have been killed in a shooting where 'at least' one assault rifle was used, per Weis. According to the Trib, "Police said they likely have surveillance video of the shootings because two pod cameras are on the street at the scene. "They're in great positions," Area 2 Commander Eddie Welsh said of the cameras."

A/2 commander really sounded brilliant in THAT quote.

Isn't that wonderful? Well-positioned PODs. And the PODs didn't stop it from happening. Not one little bit.

2/20/2009 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You must keep in mind that Home Rule does not exempt the city or the Mayor from all state laws.

Home rule was designed to allow Chicago to operate it's municipal government without state involvmet.

Home rule is not designed for the city of chicago to circumvent state laws.

For example, a Chicago Police Officer is not required to have a valid FOID card to carry a firearm while on duty as a Chicago Police Officer. But you better have it for the ride home.

Daley can't pass a city law under home rule that would make it ilegal for citizens of chicago to have a FOID card to prevent them from owning a firearm. Or carry a fiream if permitted by the state. Home rule does not apply!!!

Home rule only applies to the day to day operations of the City government and it's agents.

For example Residency, Daley can not tell a citizen they have to live in the city if they work in the City.

Home rule does not apply to any new C & C law in Illinois.

Now don't get me wrong! I am not saying Daley won't try!!!

2/20/2009 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/20/2009 07:04:00 AM

I think you mean from East of Sacramento when they invade over West of Sacramento right?

2/20/2009 07:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If concealed carry was law, women in Bucktown would not have to be worried about walking their neighborhood streets these last few days!

2/20/2009 07:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you can, please attend the IGOLD Pro-Gun Rally in Springfield,Il on Wednesday March 13,2009.

Join the NRA and ISRA today.

2/20/2009 09:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One time about 3am, 25 years ago this suburbanite citizen troller saw a car park in our alley, lights off. Two got out and entered an open garage. ( by chance owned by a police sgt. in our town) They are burglars and burglary is a felony. I called 911 and got my rifle. (They were 75' away, I never miss at 75' with my rifle because I practice with my rifle, alot) Before the cops arrived, the two got back in the car. Then they saw the cops come from each side down the alley, with their lights off. I still was on with dispatch and told them to tell the cops to watch out, they have been seen and the two ducked down under the dash. The warning got to the cops and the two gave up, took off in cuffs and the car was towed. I will tell you if either of them came out with guns, they would have been lit up-one shot one kill x2. The passenger door when opened was already in my front sight. I never miss at 75', ever. A firearm in the possession of a private citizen is the worse nightmare for violent criminals. They do not make it to the benefits of the criminal justice system and all that due process, bail, plea bargining, numerous court calls for years and witness intimidation crap. Rather, they go to eternity with the look of surprise on their face. That is social justice in the Du Page suburb where I live.

2/20/2009 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If there are some attorneys willing to take the case to the Federal court, as Heller was, I would be willing to be the plaintiff. I am of sound mind and a former city employee without strings. Let me know and go thru the webmaster.
Stay safe people.

2/20/2009 11:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

March 11, 2009 Wednesday
pro gun rally
Springfield, IL

2/21/2009 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Join the NRA and ISRA today!

2/21/2009 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“ A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. "

TO KEEP:possession,ownership,physical control.


TO BEAR:to have on ones person.carry.

2/21/2009 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rather, they go to eternity with the look of surprise on their face. That is social justice in the Du Page suburb where I live.

2/20/2009 10:09:00 PM


that's an awesome read

2/21/2009 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous H.P. said...

Well it looks like the way there going to try and undermine the US Constitution is by just going around it and beating the hell out of us with bullshit legislation. These dog-ass politicians are going to try and have their way and don’t give a damn about the people they serve….

This is a cheap shot at it, just remember this asshole who presented the bill on this.

SCC, you may want to take a look at this… it could sneak through and bit every one of us in the ass who carries off duty, let alone the retired who carry or just the citizen who has a weapon to protect their home and family.

Short Description: FIREARM OWNERS ID-INSURANCE

House Sponsors
Rep. Kenneth Dunkin

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
2/6/2009 House Referred to Rules Committee

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
430 ILCS 65/4.5 new
430 ILCS 65/8 from Ch. 38, par. 83-8


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that any person who owns a firearm in this State shall maintain a policy of liability insurance in the amount of at least $1,000,000 specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person. Provides that a person shall be deemed the owner of a firearm after the firearm is lost or stolen until such loss or theft is reported to the police department or sheriff of the jurisdiction in which the owner resides. Provides that the Department of State Police shall revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under this Act if the Department finds that the person to whom such card was issued possesses or acquires a firearm and does not submit evidence to the Department of State Police that he or she has been issued in his or her name a liability insurance policy in the amount of at least $1,000,000 specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person. Effective January 1, 2010.

Actions
Date Chamber Action
2/5/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Kenneth Dunkin
2/6/2009 House First Reading
2/6/2009 House Referred to Rules Committee


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Bill Status of HB0462 96th General Assembly

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Short Description: FIREARMS-CONCEALED CARRY

House Sponsors
Rep. Brandon W. Phelps - David Reis - Patrick J Verschoore and Shane Cultra

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
2/19/2009 House Placed on Calendar 2nd Reading - Short Debate

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
New Act
50 ILCS 705/10.6 new
720 ILCS 5/24-2 from Ch. 38, par. 24-2

2/21/2009 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous H.P. said...

SCC
Thanks for all the effort and time you spend watching our backs...

2/21/2009 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ruin Mayor Daley's day!

Join the NRA on line, right now!

NRA.COM

2/21/2009 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just joined the IRA this week!
We need to keep our freedoms!!

We can't stand by twiddling our thumbs when our neighborhoods are all becoming gang infested.
(and if you think you're safe living in the city in a " good " neighborhood, it's just a matter of time)

2/21/2009 12:40:00 PM  
Blogger lathrop one said...

to OH 19 ranger,

Look forward to meeting you there.Is this meet before or after we do that BBQ we been planning for the LAST FIVE YEARS?

sort of on topic:
I personally enjoy getting on a bus load of M-1's that reek of weed all carrying on and making noise, pick my seat and the left side of my coat justs HAPPENS to open up and OMG there is a Shiny Holstered S/W 4006. Amazing how well behaved and quiet these goofs suddenly get. I LOVE IT. and not a word is spoken.


019 Ranger can we make it "stonehenge" instead?

2/21/2009 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous hippy dippy 1 said...

Anonymous said...
... YOU SHOULD WRITE SONGS FOR GILBERT O SULLIVAN.
2/20/2009 06:38:00 AM
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Please God, let this be a feeble attempt at a joke!!!

2/21/2009 04:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/20/2009 12:23:00 AM,

Excellent post, except for the mention of Terry, Phil and John Thomas, the Larry, Curly and Moe of the 3 One-Way Stooges. They were no fucking good, but even so, they were each a sight better than absolutely no fucking good J-FED.

2/21/2009 05:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well this would mean we would never have a sgt from any north side district!!!
(i'm just fine with that by the way)

Right, because people in northside districts never get in shootings or dangerous situations, do you southside beatoffs actually believe the nonsense you spew? the southside is a shithole that will never recover, it's over down there, it needs a bomb and a bulldozer, from Roosevelt to city limits south, from the lake to city west, with the exception of Garfield Ridge, which can still be salvaged, the rest is a wasteland of shit and the sleaziest women i've ever met.......

2/21/2009 06:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another armed citizen at ODMP.org, Texas Dept of Public Safety, Trooper Sammy Long. Check it out.

2/21/2009 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

UNIFORM BEAT POLICE STORY: years ago, I'm working with the w/c pet patrolman on midnites...we stop a car on traffic and he has a gun...
he looked like ROLAND BURRIS in front of the media...turns out he's the security guard for a dry cleaners that gives breaks to the popo for the entire distict....me and partner argue...me telling him to either throw gun away or give it back to the man who was NOT licensed, just an unemployable old man who guarded a dry cleaners from burglars...no he wants arrest for gun and cb#s old guy soon as we hit the station...shit hits fan before daybreak...me..I get called and reamed out by w/c AND commander and transfered...partner (i did not snitch ) stays on watch..is now a sgt or above....watch who u work with...

2/22/2009 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous 15th and Kolmar = off-duty fun said...

To be even considered to be a sgt to the above.

a minimum of one.

1. involved in a shooting
2. Shot in the line of duty.
3. 800 arrests as first or second officer
4. 200 felony arrest as first officer.


Swell! I've got 1429 one rock arrests (box one, baby!), 804 DOPW and 938 SUB arrests, plus 2 Felony DUI's and 3 Felony Retail Theft arrests where I was the offender. If the "involved in a shooting" can be off-duty, does it still count if I was drunk?

Plus, never to have worked inside in during your first five years.

I worked inside out PLENTY of times during my first five years, but only tried to show up to work drunk or high when the Captain was RDO...

I've got 15+ years of CPD service (three bars, show my ass some RESPECT) in 010, 011, and call-back, only 168 total suspension days, one of my felon friends died on the sofa in my house six years ago AND my neighbor was a Lt. in 008 (before he got fired for fornicating on the public way with a man-whore he picked up at 26/Keeler)...would any of that help me make your south/west side merit list?

2/23/2009 03:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CC will take effect except within 100 miles of a municipality of 500,000 or more OR within 100 miles of an Olympic event.....

2/23/2009 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. A court whore
2. A relatively FNG who doesn't know any better
3. A moron who gets himself into trouble and gets shot
4. A guy who can't solve day to day problems and focuses on the one thing he can do right, 1 bagger rock arrests = ( your felony pinch )


Are you fucking kidding me ? Getting yourself into trouble and getting shot ? It's called being the police. If you are not out in the alleys and side streets where people walk to avoid the police, then you are not the police. The police that get shot or shot at on duty (whether they live or succumb to their wounds) are HEROES ! They are usually doing something that most people and even some police are afraid to do. We go into bad situations because that is our job. If you want to be a police officer and sit behind a desk before you have 10-12 years on the street, you are not the police, you are an armed secretary, nothing more. Also, you don't have to be in a fast district to be the police. In the slower districts, there are other things to do. Walk through alleys and follow a suspected burglar and see if you can get lucky (easier if you are in plain clothes). Stop a carload of undesirables and see what you get, they are always passing through, even in the slower districts. Maybe a gun or some drugs or even a warrant will pop up. So, it doesn't matter where you work in as much as THAT you work. So, to the person that faults the guy who is a court whore...do you have a part-time job where you make $50+ per hour to do nothing but sit there and talk to a judge ? Didn't think so. Many officers find a certain niche' and go with it. If it's one rock, so be it. Every guy/ gal with a rock is like a $100 bill for the officer. I don't chase the one baggers, but, I don't begrudge anyone who is driven by the desire to better his/ her financial situation or bank hours in court. By the way, chasing one baggers isn't the safest thing to either, these are not lawyers and accountants buying drugs, they are crack heads and hypes, who are usually dirtier than most of us have EVER been in a lifetime. So, sit behind your desk and keep to yourself. The working police will keep the streets a bit safer for you. This scenario that I am speaking does not generate $$$ for the city, it costs the city $$$ to house these mutts and officer o.t. is expensive...so tell me, who wins when we act like the police ? We do ! NO TICKETS, just a few arrests and voila, hurts the city even more. Don't work harder, work smarter.

2/23/2009 01:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

".....would any of that help me make your south/west side merit list?

2/23/2009 03:28:00 AM"



Ladies and Gentlemen, meet our next Super.

2/23/2009 01:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Don't work harder, work in A/3 said...

In the slower districts, there are other things to do.

Yes. I usually take the down time to go over my upcoming court testimony for all my Aggressive Panhandling pinches. Are your saying there are OTHER things to do too?

Walk through alleys and follow a suspected burglar and see if you can get lucky (easier if you are in plain clothes).

I like reading your postings...it's like getting "lucky" without having to get anyone drunk or take my depends off. FYI: If I do get lucky, I have to leave the socks on because my feet smell BAD. Grandma says it's because I eat too much cheese. What do you think?

2/24/2009 09:34:00 AM  

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