Off Duty?
Five accident-prone Chicago intersections near schools, seniors and shopping were chosen Tuesday to kick off a yearlong undercover crackdown against motorists who fail to yield for pedestrians.
Off-duty Chicago Police officers posing as pedestrians will start issuing real tickets -- with fines ranging from $50 to $500 -- at 8 a.m. Monday at Division and Hoyne.
So where do we sign-up to run out into traffic and try to get hit by a rich yuppie with good insurance?
We had our doubts about this program when it was first introduced. It seemed like a suicide type mission. Off-duty doesn't seem any better.
UPDATE: By "off duty," we're assuming it's a Special Employment issue of some sort. Not like DUI Checkpoints because you really don't need any special talents or qualifications to walk into traffic.
We had our doubts about this program when it was first introduced. It seemed like a suicide type mission. Off-duty doesn't seem any better.
UPDATE: By "off duty," we're assuming it's a Special Employment issue of some sort. Not like DUI Checkpoints because you really don't need any special talents or qualifications to walk into traffic.
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posted by SCC at 5:07 AM
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Off duty????
Am I missing something here?
Where are the priorities? Crime or jaywalking? Gosh I am so proud of our leadership. Watch a few crosswalks but no one to answer calls for service.
So some jackass walks out into moving traffic and the motorist is to blame? Ok....lets see...don't walk until it's safe to do so or go anyway and leave the responsibility to the guy piloting the 3500 pound car to stop. Aldermans are morons. All over Europe, pedestrians wait for the car....not the other assinine way around.
It';s all about the $$$$$$, NOT SAFETY.
Welcome to $ocialism!!!
Congrats to all those patriots who attended the Tea Party yesterday.
It is time that the people took back their government!!!
WAKEUP PEOPLE!!!
OT OT Just went on the scum times website and not one mention of yesterdays tea parties. Does anyone remember Pravda?
J-Fed addresses CPD's perceived problems with DUI. J-Fed didn't do too badly telling the truth about other professions having more serious problems with alcohol.
Let's talk about Walter Jacobsen's DUI history, shall we?
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/04/weis-dui-cops-arent-systemic.html
So if u r off duty are u IOD if u get hit by some uninsured motorist?
Is this SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT at it's best and is this OVERTIME paid by STIMULAS FUNDS?
Or is this purly voluntary and hoping to get a MSF spot or MERIT PROMOTION down the road when they scrape you up and is this IOD if not on the clock?
Courious minds want to know!
Wow I feel safer already.
Haven't we learned by now that all of these "crackdowns" and "operations" are mostly just window dressing for the media ???
Hold a press conference, explain what the problem is and what you are going to do about it, and let the media report it on the ten o'clock news. Everyone hears about tickets and fines and assumes that the Police are keeping them safe during every minute of every day.
PERCEPTION IS REALITY !
This is probably not how it started, but if I strip away the bureaucracy-speak, I could see where a concerned parent or two (who might also happen to be CPD) would volunteer to stop these drivers when they act that way near these cop's kid's school.
I am a teacher (though not in the CPS, I am in a supporting battle with you guys in that we are trying to teach and parent some hoodlums whose reproducers couldn't earn or spell the title mom or dad). I would gladly volunteer to carry a ticket book to 'drive away' some of the scum who cruise by my school, and to slow down the parents who only care about how fast they can drop junior and missy off. I already write plates down. Granted, there is no insurance coverage either if one of these drivers hits me.
So if a concerned parent (who also happens to be a CPD officer) wanted to be there for their kids in the AM or after school, could you take a ticket book with you or would you have to be 'on duty'?
What could possibly go wrong with such a brilliantly thought out plan? I stand in awe of our leadership!
Dont worry---just like all other overtime gigs run by this department this will be handed out to do nothing old timers who are tyring to get "points" before they retire... Just like CTA all the do nothings who are trying to offset 3 divorces will sign up in droves and nothing will be accomplished. And when the Sgt in charge asks for the slightest bit of activity to justify the OT, they will all piss, bitch and moan and continue to produce nothing but fucking goose eggs!!! Then the funding will be pulled because it will look like it is a useless initiative because nothing is being done! It is time to end seniority as the way of assigning anything on this department, and time to create a grading system! You work, you produce, YOU GET THE OT!!! You listening FOP! TIME FOR A GRADING SYSTEM!!!
Off duty ? So what happens if I get hit ? I.O.D. ? I think not .
Go out there you company chooch.
I'm curious is it like CTA special employment. No I.O.D. because you are not working for the police department? I could be wrong but I remember that there was something to that effect when I came on the job and still had all my hair. Can we get some of these exempts to go play in traffic?
And this will do what, make chicago drivers more courteous?
That is sort of like thinking that ethics training and ethics statements and a Chicago Board of Ethics will give us honest government. To paraphrase a former superintendent: "not in this city."
THis detail could be my ticket to early retirement. Couple my already "weak back" along with a "minor bump" into the SIDE fender of a car almost stopped and Im 75% and living large!!!
Sign me the fuck up!
Sorry to interrupt, just had to chime in on this. Love you love your show, longtime reader first time poster.
"All are "uncontrolled" intersections with neither a traffic light nor a stop sign."
So as a driver, if anyone walks out into the crosswalk at any time, I should just slam on my brakes?
This doesn't seem like a test anyone can pass. There are plenty of crosswalks with stop signs that are blown off to the peril of both pedestrians and other drivers, maybe that would be a better start. I'll even give you one: Foster & Washtenaw, by a grammar school and Swedish Covenant hospital.
What exactly is meant by "off-duty?"
I hope that doesn't mean that if your are seriously injured and disabled the shitty will say "You were OFF-DUTY and we don't cover that as IOD and/or Line-Of-Duty Disability.
This needs to clarified up-front and real quick.
Please: No one work it until it is!!
What a bunch of morons are running this asylum. They want off-duty PO's to deliberately put themselves in the path a motor vehicle, risk serious and possibly permanently disabling injury (or God forbid-death) to issue a few F-N traffic citations??????
Or---lets put the aldercreatures out there. They would be like....bait. Or targets.
Watching so many people walk in traffic in my West Side district, it's like I learned from the best!
Sign me up!
PS - Is the city still covering my hip surgery?
It's not really OFF DUTY, but ON DUTY Civilian Dressed coppers working the detail. Most from the Traffic Safety Unit and others from traffic.
gangs, drugs and guns should be our main concern in this city and this department. all the violence, shootings, robberies and murders stem from them. Jesus, this department is so fucked up.
Senseless and useless outdoor roll calls, wolf pack missions, driving in circles in the zone, hot spot dispersals, seat belt missions, etc.
lets get back to being the police, knocking heads and taking names and lets take the streets back already. oh yeah, my fault - what was I thinking. You have a corrupt Mayor that hates and shits on the police, you have a supt that wont back the police and is head hunting and we have a city that still believes that bullshit number of 13,500 police officers serving the public (shh; the real # is more like 9,789 an shrinking).
uy yuy yuy - fucking embarassed to be a Chicago Cop sometimes
I've got to tell you...If I see some idiot in civilian clothes telling me to stop...they're gonna be eating gravel spray
Unless you're in uniform...go fuck yourself.
Just another bullshit way to generate revunue..
so pedestrians can walk right in front of a vehicle travelling 35 miles an hour and he is supposed to lock up his brakes to let the pedestrian cross-- and if you don't stop they are going to have some pimp out there writing citations. get ready to start doing plenty of 99a or 99b rear end collisions.
Hey Jay
I know you are a regular reader of our great blog. Why dont you ask JFED about this non sense of a waste of manpower and tax payers dollars.
Settle our contract so we can go back to taking our streets back.
Police officers city wide are doing much less than ever before because of the morale situation.
If you just settled the contract we could move on with the healing process and take our streets back
Jay , help us out here , we want to get a settlement , this is rediculous.
Off duty: meens you don't get taken care of the same way when you get your ass run over! The city washes their hands of you. All for what, time 1/2?
I vote for having the aldercritters being the ones tempting fate. See if any taxpayers are willing to stop for them.
If you get hit by a car they make you blow....
embarassing
Merit selections need only apply. What happens if you are run over and seriously injured you are voluntarily working off duty. Is the city off the hook?
I don't know what part of Europe you've been to, but my extensive experience, including a ride-along with a copper, says that cars wait for pedestrians at marked crosswalks. I'm not saying that's the best way (they're overuse of speed cameras is extremely annoying), but get your facts straight.
why the hell would you want to do this?
I think this sounds like special employment and should go by seniority. Come on Union step up to the plate and make this a time and half pay Yahooooooo
$pecial employment? are they going to bar everybody but the 9161's?
The need for money breeds stupid acts for revenue.
this is a response to the original post.
Anonymous said...
Dont worry---just like all other overtime gigs run by this department this will be handed out to do nothing old timers (WHO HAVE SENORITY) who are tyring to get "points" (WHAT POINTS ONLY CTA PAYS INTO SS)
before they retire... Just like CTA all the do nothings who are trying to offset 3 divorces will sign up in droves and nothing will be accomplished. And when the Sgt in charge asks for the slightest bit of activity to justify the OT, they will all piss, bitch and moan and continue to produce nothing but fucking goose eggs!!! (JUST LIKE THE YOUNG GUY WORKING CTA SPECIAL WHO THINKS HE IS ABOVE TICKETS AND BUS CHECKS)Then the funding will be pulled because it will look like it is a useless initiative because nothing is being done! It is time to end seniority as the way of assigning anything on this department (JUST LIKE YOUR FULRLOUGH), and time to create a grading system! BeCause GRAdiNG SysTEMS ARE 100 PERCENT LEGIT) You work, you produce, YOU GET THE OT!!! You listening FOP! TIME FOR A GRADING SYSTEM!!!
4/16/2009 10:03:00 AM
Kid, get some time on the job. Embrace seniority because without it you will never get anything without clout. If you think producing gets you ahead then you have been drinking too much cool aid. Some of the hardest workers on this job still push a beat car (nothing wrong with that) while the biggest dogs who have clout get spots and promoted.
"All are "uncontrolled" intersections with neither a traffic light nor a stop sign."
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Division & Hoyne has a Stop Sign & Crossing Guard, but the drivers in the neighborhood do NOT care...they are in too much of a hurry
Can I volunteer a few idiots to cross into moving traffic?
I'll even push them in.
Hey,10:03 A.M., you are a fuckin punk, everybody had to wait their turn, a pussy like you has no idea what it was like before.You went to court on your own time no overtime.How many heroes, like you , want to go back to that?If you think a couple parkers and a bus check make the C.T.A. safe you are an asshole.Visibility is all you need.So, Fuck you,punk.
Kid, get some time on the job. Embrace seniority because without it you will never get anything without clout. If you think producing gets you ahead then you have been drinking too much cool aid. Some of the hardest workers on this job still push a beat car (nothing wrong with that) while the biggest dogs who have clout get spots and promoted.
4/16/2009 07:10:00 PM
hey--- at least my kool ade isnt being mixed with vodka and a side of poor me stories about why I cant pass the power test and/or how my 3 ex-wives are taking me to the cleaners! And when they come up with an objective efficiency system, neither clout, nor worthless seniority will mean JACK SHIT! And your old ass will be left holding the midnight bag!
ps--How about the union meet Ald. Beale in the middle on our duty availability--- 2nd watch gets zero--3rd watch gets 2/3 what we currently get and midnights get the rest! I work 3rd watch currently and would sign off on that.. Afterall, how does someone working straight days EARN duty availability???
If this truly is an off duty initiative then it should be handled like all other special employment : by seniority. I don't know how many old timers will be up for it but it should be offered by seniority.
That being said you know that some house mouses from either headquarters or the traffic unit will be the ones soaking this up.
"It is time to end seniority as the way of assigning anything on this department (JUST LIKE YOUR FULRLOUGH), and time to create a grading system! BeCause GRAdiNG SysTEMS ARE 100 PERCENT LEGIT) You work, you produce, YOU GET THE OT!!! You listening FOP! TIME FOR A GRADING SYSTEM!!!"
Like the rating & evaluation system they'r ramping up again? What's the criteria based on?
Aribtrary Bullshit primarily based on Clout& LIES.
The Desk House mouse gets a 95% effciency& the street coppers get a 70% because he doesn't have any gambling arrests?
The Medical use & Awards system is an F'ng Joke as well.
Wah,Wah I got a year & a day on the job and can only get a 1A Furlo. Boo,Hoo Cry me a River, Bitch!
Anonymous said...
If this truly is an off duty initiative then it should be handled like all other special employment : by seniority. I don't know how many old timers will be up for it but it should be offered by seniority.
That being said you know that some house mouses from either headquarters or the traffic unit will be the ones soaking this up.
4/16/2009 11:14:00 PM
Why yes we will be getting it! "more hair gel" you can get it at your walgreens part time job kid!
Anonymous said...
Hey,10:03 A.M., you are a fuckin punk, everybody had to wait their turn, a pussy like you has no idea what it was like before.You went to court on your own time no overtime.How many heroes, like you , want to go back to that?If you think a couple parkers and a bus check make the C.T.A. safe you are an asshole.Visibility is all you need.So, Fuck you,punk.
4/16/2009 08:24:00 PM
Agred when the "old times" I.E. smarter coppers,started we got shit! Now with time the union stepped in and got overtime details by seniority so be it! "We did not waste 4 years and owed loans to go to college to waste time son,we got to workin"! So you partied 4 or more years on mom and dad and your here so shut the fuck up!! Child!!
So as a driver, if anyone walks out into the crosswalk at any time, I should just slam on my brakes?
This doesn't seem like a test anyone can pass. There are plenty of crosswalks with stop signs that are blown off to the peril of both pedestrians and other drivers, maybe that would be a better start. I'll even give you one: Foster & Washtenaw, by a grammar school and Swedish Covenant hospital.
4/16/2009 11:42:00 AM
In Park Ridge they put out these signs that say "STATE LAW - YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS IN CROSSWALKS" to "improve safety" and guess what happens now? The preppy asshole kids now don't even look when they step out into traffic! They do this in Lincoln Park too. I always look closely, and if they aren't in a crosswalk, I go around them. If they stop and yell at me, I pull over and get out. Watch where you are going assholes!
What really burns my ass is people that are at a 3-way stop in a 4-way intersection (like going over railroad tracks - Overhill or Ozark in Edison park), and the don't yield to vehicles that do not have a stop sign. One day you guys are going to find someone beaten to death at one of those intersections!
If an "old-timer" gets run over is it aggravated? Can't go IOD because of all the other special employment that period!
i'll take the old salty dog with the wheel gun any day over the baby faced know it all new guy. the only new guy i like is the one who sits in the back and shuts his yap-- you learn by watching-- police work is not very complicated-- the challenge is to get to your retirement in good shape both physically and mentally--
It'd be pretty cool if the cops made some sort of effort to enforce this law at any of the crosswalks on California outside the 14th pc. A whole train of people are waiting to cross the street, standing in the crosswalks, and no one ever stops.
ps--How about the union meet Ald. Beale in the middle on our duty availability--- 2nd watch gets zero--3rd watch gets 2/3 what we currently get and midnights get the rest! I work 3rd watch currently and would sign off on that.. Afterall, how does someone working straight days EARN duty availability???
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What a dildo you are? Probably work in a district on the north side. I hate this job not because of the politics, or even dealing with the savages out there but idiot two year wonders like you. Now go and blow your clout
Maybe one of the decoys is a fellow copper I don't like, Im gonna drive by real close and open my door on the fool.
Dont worry---just like all other overtime gigs run by this department this will be handed out to do nothing old timers who are tyring to get "points" before they retire... Just like CTA all the do nothings who are trying to offset 3 divorces will sign up in droves and nothing will be accomplished. And when the Sgt in charge asks for the slightest bit of activity to justify the OT, they will all piss, bitch and moan and continue to produce nothing but fucking goose eggs!!! Then the funding will be pulled because it will look like it is a useless initiative because nothing is being done! It is time to end seniority as the way of assigning anything on this department, and time to create a grading system! You work, you produce, YOU GET THE OT!!! You listening FOP! TIME FOR A GRADING SYSTEM!!!
4/16/2009 10:03:00 AM
The Amazing thing about overtime, is that everyone will qualify for it over time. Relax junior, before you know it, you too will be in the KMA club.
There is nothing worse than a 20 year attitude from a two year wonder.
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