Pension Meeting Rumbles
Dozens of Chicago police officers jammed their pension fund’s board meeting Wednesday to question an investment deal that went to a real estate firm involving a nephew of Mayor Richard Daley.
The officers blasted fund administrators for declining to comply with a subpoena from the city’s inspector general, David Hoffman. In March, the Tribune reported that Hoffman is investigating public employee pension fund dealings with DV Urban Realty, which includes mayoral nephew Robert Vanecko.
David Kugler, the police fund’s attorney, said officials would not provide Hoffman with recordings of closed board sessions where the deal was discussed.
Among the officers who spoke at the meeting was Mike Mette, who was freed from an Iowa prison last year when the courts reversed his conviction for punching a man. The board’s refusal to cooperate with Hoffman “makes a lot of us feel something is being hidden,” Mette said.
Read the article linked up top. Then decide to get involved. There are mechanisms in place to remove unwanted pension board members instead of waiting for the next election. Perhaps it's time to target one or two of them?
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
44 Comments:
"Perhaps it's time to target one or two of them?"
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Yes, it is time.
all deals should be transparent.i want to know if they re buying up land near chernobyl. where s pat fitz on this one!zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. there s something rotten in denmark..and where in chicago
Go Mette!
Nice to see the "Mette Strike Force" in my district the other night!
When's the next march at City Hall?!
I have recently got to know Mette what a class act.
the pension is the most important issue for us right now. not m16s and tahoes.
It is time for change!
Obama has ushered in this new era of change.
Ironically, this means that every incimbent politician must go now.
Shields quote is great, friends and family program.
SCC right on target, there are options for removal of members, Pension). I guess the question is who to focus on...
I still think Torches and Pitchforks would work too... Maybe we can save that effect for the midget.
The comments after the Tribune article show how little the public understand what we put up with.
It is time for the Union to hire a PR firm to get our side out.
I still don't know how they can refuse to comply with a subpoena. What does that tell you? Why is Shields the only one who backs it up? What does that tell you about the others?
It is time to let the public know that the money in the pension fund is all our money not some windfall from the City. Let them know we make/made our direct contribution from the paycheck twice a month. The other part of the contribution comes from the City as part of our pay and benefits package. This is similar to the private sector where the employee pays the FICA portion out of his paycheck and the employer also makes a payment.
Again all of it is our money and it should be invested as we direct it to be done, not as shortshanks wants it invested.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE SOMEONE RUN AGAINST HAUSER, SO I HAVE A CHOICE AND VOTE AGAINST HIM.
This David Kugler...is he an older attorney who used to do alot of liquor license cases? If so, we're in trouble. Nothing will be legit if this is that guy.
Apparently Ken Hauser is on a smear campaign right now to make Shields look bad. He's sending out an e-mail saying that Shields told people at FOP meeting that retirees will lose their healthcare in 2013. Shields responded saying that you can even call the recording secretary of the FOP Sidney Davis to verify he never said that.
Sounds like Hauser is on some B.S.
while we are on the subject of the pension fund business, how about an update on any contract negotiations-- anyone heard any new news-- is it time for another march-- is it time for a bunch of guys to come down with the swine flu on a friday night-- just wait until 2010 when the new evaluation process becomes operational-- if you haven't already, read the order...
Hello, CPD members, Are you out there?
Straight from the horses mouth, our Pension Bd.
Our pension is currently funded at 45%, this is
about serious as it can get. Each and every one of you
should be concerned, dare I say alarmed. If we don't
act now, as a whole we are in deep s#%$ !!!
I was at the meeting and the arrogance of the board
towards the membership that voted them in was
initially defiant, dismissive, and disrespectful.
The Bd. tried to use the fire code as an excuse to make
all but twenty of us vacate the conference room. When
we pressed the issue and moved instead into adjacent
hallways their demeanor changed a bit. It took a great
deal of restraint for the crowd to maintain their decorum
but cooler heads did prevail.
After attending that Pension Bd. meeting and the last
FOP meeting I have come to the following conclusion.
The people we have elected to fill crucial positions as
our representatives are becoming far to comfortable in
their spots and to tell you the truth we have only
ourselves to blame. Unless we show up and push the
Issues nothing will be done. I assure you that many of
these people are willing to simply ride the wave,
keep a cushy spot, collect the perks, and surrender
rather than fight for us. They are very, very,
uncomfortable when we actually show up.
If you are expecting a contract or a pension, I urge
each and everyone of you to spread the word and
start showing up. We have to be willing to fight for
what is rightfully ours. We earned it.
Chicago Police Officers,
As we head into May I would like to say "Thank You!!!!" for your service and dedication to the citizens of Chicago. Please know there are many many people who appreciate the job you do every day.
Stay Safe and God Bless!
- A citizen
Oust em all before our pension disappears like all the taxpayers dollars that Shortshanks looted..
time to picket the Pension Board and demand TOTAL ACCOUNTABILITY. Everyone expects it from us, now it's time for US to demand it from THEM...Remember, figures lie, and LIARS figure.
time for change! A new era for Shit-cago. Oust ALL incumbents. Honesty, fairness, and integrity for all . No more DemocRAT rule over us subjects. Vote ALL of them out, even if you're a DemocRAT, vote Republican. Save Chicago!
The comments after the Tribune article show how little the public understand what we put up with.
It is time for the Union to hire a PR firm to get our side out.
Time for FOX News to report this giant story of Murder by Politics, Corruption, and the disappearence of tax dollars to fight crime diverted to Olympics related issues.
Thanks to all that attend the meeting!!!
It is time for the Union to hire a PR firm to get our side out.
4/30/2009 07:06:00 AM
The very second that happens coppers will scream about wasting their dues!
It’s unbelievable that the people who are toying with our pension funds and won’t revealed what went on regarding decision making about our money. Let the Shankster get involved with someone else’s money and it automatically is allocated to the Daley Crime Family. Don’t just get rid of a few Daley minions on the pension board,
get rid of that height and intelligence challenged motherfucker.
When it's time to vote for Pension Board Members again, remember 3 things;
1. Vote
2. Vote for the candidates that are working on OUR behalf,
3. It's our money.
Until then, go to the meetings and support Mike, he's mixing the pot on our behalf. Show him we are behind him.
It is time for the Union to hire a PR firm to get our side out.
4/30/2009 07:06:00 AM
yep... I said the same thing some time ago... Now would be the PERFECT time to hire a PR firm... We need public backing, like it or not. And sorry, but greg bella's "DEEZE and DEMMS" only go to make us look like a bunch of bumbling morons... It is time to let some professionals come in and spin this out of control debacle back into our favor! Nothing could help us more than a good PR push! We get the public on our side, we get our side out IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER, only then will we get a decent contract!
"Ironically, this means that every incimbent politician must go now.
4/30/2009 06:08:00 AM"
Yes, it is ironic.
You'd have thunk they'd have seen this coming.....
First the show of unity at the march and now the show of unity at the pension board meeting. I don't know about the rest of you but I think I just might be proud to be a Chicago Police Officer again. Now if we can bring back the rotating watches we would be unstoppable. SCC, there is a lot of trash talk on this site but this new found unity could not have happened without your hard work with this site. Thank you.
THIS MIKE SHIELDS IS BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR AN ARROGANT ASSHOLE LIKE HIM. I WOULD RATHER SEE DOUGHTERY OR DI MARIA AS PRESIDENT OF FOP. HIS EMAILS ARE SO FUKING DEFENSIVE. DON'T BITE OFF MORE THAN YOU CAN CHEW. GET A GRIP, GOOF!
http://www.iprachicago.org/IPRA
community_mtg_flier_04292009.pdf
As employees of the CPD & CFD we contribute twice a month on payday to our pensions, The City contributions come from propery taxes and other sources. The law was changed to accept "other sources" approximately 7 years ago with the hope of getting dollars from "gaming or other sources". I know I helped pass the legislation in Springfield. So, yes we and our neighbors are taxed on our property and we as employees of the CFD & CPD are taxed again on our pay checks with the hope of a good pensiaon after 29 and a day of service. Keep up the good fight SCC. Thanks for offering a sounding board.
Anonymous said...
"...Now if we can bring back the rotating watches we would be unstoppable..."
4/30/2009 04:26:00 PM
DUDE ! Hold on there !
Ya know, we had that before and coppers hated it ! That's why we got rid of it.
You must be a low seniority newbie stuck on midnights. Sorry, kid. you'll get off 1st watch eventually.
Someday maybe they'll hire new coppers ! ! !
Off Topic:
I was at the Chicago Police Memorial today, watching as the Chicago Police Honor Guard proudly marched in front of the Memorial. As I was standing there a woman and a man came to lay a wreath. The woman, who kindly introduced herself as Detective Joseph Airhart, Jr.’s mom, was then assisted by a Officer from the Honor Guard in laying the wreath.
When I though of the extreme sacrifice she and her family had endured and the years of suffering endured by Detective Airhart, my eyes filled up with tears.
God Bless the Airhart Family and the Chicago Police Department.
Had to work, but a "BIG THANK YOU" to those that went!!! We might have to march against this...it's OURS!!!! Again Thanks!!
The POs and Detetectives voted in Shields. It's time the Sgts,Lts and retirees look into who they have voted in and ask questions. We have to accountable for ourselves and demand accountability to those who are in these positions.
THE MORE I READ ABOUT THIS COCKY JAGOFF MIKE SHEILDS AND HIS COCKY EMAILS, THE MORE I DON'T TRUST HIS AGENDA.
Anonymous said...
First the show of unity at the march and now the show of unity at the pension board meeting. I don't know about the rest of you but I think I just might be proud to be a Chicago Police Officer again. Now if we can bring back the rotating watches we would be unstoppable. SCC, there is a lot of trash talk on this site but this new found unity could not have happened without your hard work with this site. Thank you.
4/30/2009 04:26:00 PM
If they bring back rotating watches maybe they also will bring back the white stripe on the side of the pants and traffic money will be OK again, if you come up with some to the WC for a traffic car of course.
Anonymous said...
First the show of unity at the march and now the show of unity at the pension board meeting. I don't know about the rest of you but I think I just might be proud to be a Chicago Police Officer again. Now if we can bring back the rotating watches we would be unstoppable. SCC, there is a lot of trash talk on this site but this new found unity could not have happened without your hard work with this site. Thank you.
4/30/2009 04:26:00 PM
keep the rotation did it years ago,am kma and hated it!
This David Kugler...is he an older attorney who used to do alot of liquor license cases? If so, we're in trouble. Nothing will be legit if this is that guy.
4/30/2009 09:27:00 AM
Yes, that's Dave.
THIS MIKE SHIELDS IS BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR AN ARROGANT ASSHOLE LIKE HIM. I WOULD RATHER SEE DOUGHTERY OR DI MARIA AS PRESIDENT OF FOP. HIS EMAILS ARE SO FUKING DEFENSIVE. DON'T BITE OFF MORE THAN YOU CAN CHEW. GET A GRIP, GOOF!
4/30/2009 05:02:00 PM
Hello, Mr. "ALL CAPS ASSMASTER." Why don't you get the fuck off this blog? Shields ain't running for FOP Prez, dummy. What he is doing is a great job for us at the Pension Board.
Why don't you tell us how great our previous trustee "Retard Robbins" was? Tell us all his good deeds at the Pension Board.....like the time he voted to give Daley's nephew $15m of our money. Yeah, you probably like "Hair Hat" Hauser too, don't you? That bastard MADE THE MOTION to give Daley's nephew the money. Retard Robbins only voted for it.
P.S. Dougherty and DiMAria are friendly with Mike Shields.
P.P.S. Your stupidity is making Mike Shields more popular. As a Mike supporter, Please accept my thanks.
P.P.P.S. Please, oh please, respond and identify yourself.
THE MORE I READ ABOUT THIS COCKY JAGOFF MIKE SHEILDS AND HIS COCKY EMAILS, THE MORE I DON'T TRUST HIS AGENDA.
4/30/2009 07:08:00 PM
Listen Ken Hauser,
Just cuz our boy Shields called you out as the Daley Loving Suckhole you are, don't get your wig in a tangle. It wasn't Mike Shields that termed your nickname "Dinner Bell." It was one of your alleged friends at the Pension Board. Get with the program or enjoy your last term as a trustee.
"THE MORE I READ ABOUT THIS COCKY JAGOFF MIKE SHEILDS AND HIS COCKY EMAILS, THE MORE I DON'T TRUST HIS AGENDA.
4/30/2009 07:08:00 PM"
Do you have a better one?
And by that, I don't mean letting richie run his short dick up everybody's ass.
"THIS MIKE SHIELDS IS BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR AN ARROGANT ASSHOLE LIKE HIM. I WOULD RATHER SEE DOUGHTERY OR DI MARIA AS PRESIDENT OF FOP. HIS EMAILS ARE SO FUKING DEFENSIVE. DON'T BITE OFF MORE THAN YOU CAN CHEW. GET A GRIP, GOOF!
4/30/2009 05:02:00 PM"
Don't you really mean 'get your grip offa my balls', richie?
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