Once a Banger...
A federal jury has awarded $21 million to a man who sued a former Chicago Police officer, accusing the officer of framing him for murder, authorities said.
Attorneys for Juan Johnson held a news conference to discuss the award, which they said they believed was the largest-ever in a wrongful conviction case involving the city of Chicago.
[...] Johnson, a reputed Spanish Cobras leader, filed a lawsuit against former Chicago Police gang crimes specialist Reynaldo Guevara, accusing him of framing him with a 1989 murder. The city also was named in the lawsuit.
It seems a number of witnesses changed their testimony on the stand after Johnson already spent 11 years in prison leading to the questionable acquittal. Bottom feeding lawyers twisted the civil trial to their own ends, suppressing information on Johnson's gang banging past and the fact that the FBI of all people "busted Johnson last year for allegedly selling drugs" while he was a member of CeaseFire.
Today, this appears in our comment section - it seems too good to be true:
Today, this appears in our comment section - it seems too good to be true:
- 3 more shot today in humboldt park in 2 incidents. the first at 0700 hours. 1 died. the other 2 will live.
the dead guy was in the car of some goof who just won a $21 million verdict against the city.
$21 million (minus bottom feeder fees) and he ends up with a dead body in his car not even six days later? Anyone think the cops had it right all along and the gang bangers have figured out how to game the system? Anyone up for some tort reform?
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
84 Comments:
Quit dat reform talk. Dis city ain't ready for reform!
dammit they missed him.the animals have won along with these scumbag lawyers.
damn they missed him? Oh boy is rich going to be pissed, cant you Alder bums do anything right? that money was ear marked for the full contact jello match between jody and Bea to see who gets full control of 2016 Private security firm, since the CPD will be gone.
JAFO in fillmore.
Too bad the dead guy wasn't the rich guy.
The guy also got a federal dope case on him that couldnt be brought up in the $21mil case.
Too bad he wasn't shot and killed... oh well... got one of buddies though... hahahaha
WOW!
Name of the plaintiff's atty? Let's start outing them!
whatever.... media will not report that... it may offend the pieces of shit while exonerating the police... and that does not sell news... sorry
And the retired copper is required to pay 16 grand out of his own pocket.
I'd throw some money his way if there is a fund set up.
It was actually an In-Field class on "How To Win A $21 Million Judgement Against The Police Dept Before Tort Reform"
No Refunds.
A 19-year-old man was reported in serious condition this evening after being shot several times by a bicyclist on Chicago's Southwest Side.
Witnesses told police an individual riding a bicycle opened fire on the victim in the 6700 block of South Artesian Avenue about 4:30 p.m., police said.
The motive for the shooting was unclear. No one was in custody.
--Staff report
Whoops. The pendulum will swing on Monday. Weasel's staff will order officers to unlawfully stop and search all bicyclists and impound their bicycles.
One of three things has to be done.
State law must be changed to give police officers the same immunity from civil suits as enjoyed by the States Attorneys and the Judges. Why are the police always the only ones left in the civil docket paying punitive damages for just doing your job.
State law must be changed to provide that there is no statue of limitations for Perjury. When you as a witness sign a written statement given to a States Attorney, testify under oath at the Grand Jury, testify under oath at a criminal trial, you can be criminally prosecuted if you decide to change your story after three years.
When someone is arrested, there
is a two year window for filing a civil suit in Illinois, Federal Courts follow the state rules for the filing of civil suits. There should be no extension of time granted to file these Violation of Civil Rights suits.
And yes it was Juan Johnson's van that was lit up with two people shot one dead. Lets see how many Spanish Cobras attend the wake.
I made a comment earlier in the week on this blog (before this incident) that soon, this thug would likely shoot or be shot and then call the CPD to protect his sorry ass. I must be psychic.
OT:
I heard from a very good source that the contract negotiations are definitely going into arbitration and it will be at least another year before it is settled. Any union reps want to confirm?
Are the rumors true that the retired officer had to pay punitive damages stemming from this case?
OT:
This pertains to the LIES that B. Cuello was not in uniform and did not show ID.
#1. She was in uniform, she had a white t shirt on that said "Hi-Tops" in blue and red.
#2. When asked to show ID she pulled the bottle opener out of the back pocket and showed it to the officer.
So quit the LIES. It's the officers fault.
off topic but relating to the previous topic of "108 shot" the number is actually higher. if you look in data warehouse, clear, chris and in the web mapping features and combine all of that info you will find that the acutal victims of agg batt with a handgun is 132 from 19 jun 09 to 26 jun 09. the number of 108 is somewhat correct only because there were 108 incidents. some of these incidents had multiple gunshot victims which makes the exact number of gunshot victims 132. this does not include stabbings, but during that period there were no stabbing related homicides.. or at least none yet ruled homicides that were involving a knife. one of the homicides did involve a vehicle ramming and not gunfire. from what i am seeing it is a fairly bloody weekend. when monday or tuesday rolls around I will try to post the numbers for the weekend. for now, thats all I got. pretty violent... but still not as bad as the 90s as im sure many of you can still remember.
You can take the banger out of the gang (incarceration) but you can't take the gang out of the banger.
This mope should have been resting at his seaside mansion in Puerto Rico.
2 thoughts: crime pays and too many lawyers around.
THE SHITTY CONTINUES TO GIVE AWAY MORE OF MY TAX DOLLARS.
WHAT WAS dALEYS CUT?
THEY MISSED
State law must be changed to give police officers the same immunity from civil suits as enjoyed by the States Attorneys and the Judges. Why are the police always the only ones left in the civil docket paying punitive damages for just doing your job.
State law must be changed to provide that there is no statue of limitations for Perjury. When you as a witness sign a written statement given to a States Attorney, testify under oath at the Grand Jury, testify under oath at a criminal trial, you can be criminally prosecuted if you decide to change your story after three years.
When someone is arrested, there
is a two year window for filing a civil suit in Illinois, Federal Courts follow the state rules for the filing of civil suits. There should be no extension of time granted to file these Violation of Civil Rights suits.
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I agree with this wholeheartedly. It is so ridiculous for the police to be punished for doing their job. If a judge can make an error in judgement without any retribution, why can't an officer doing his job receive the same consideration?
It took him years to get the witnesses to change their statements? They should be able to be charged with perjury, but I wonder if some of them are truly frightened of what will happen to them.
But I think the police should get the same immunity that the judges get.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Name of the plaintiff's atty? Let's start outing them!
6/28/2009 12:29:00 AM
The scum sucking law firm is Loevy and Loevy and they consistently kick the asses of those inept incompetent bitch attorneys in the Corp Counsels's office
I'm at the tail end of my career, but I have family and friends on the job. You have to do something about the Bottom Feeders. Specifically, Jon Loevey and his greedy Unethical Father. They are damn good at what they do (Twisting the truth and keeping evidence from the Jury) and have become multi millionairs at the Police and City Tax Payers Expense.
For the record Torts are state remedies for injured plaintiffs not federal. When fed plaintiffs sue the police they do so under the civil rights act. The fed statute that allows them to sue is Fed section 1983. The bigger problem aside from fed law is the idiot fucking judges sitting on the federal bench. As you know the clueless fed judges don't like us much. We are all liars and thieves.
fucking A... had it right
Maybe it's just me, but why is certain information not allowed to be brought into a trial? Prejudicial you say? I say bullshit!
I would think a juror has a right, even an obligation to society to measure and evaluate what a career criminal might do with money he is awarded in a lawsuit.
Don't get me wrong. If a guy has been f*cked over, give him a million bucks and call it a day... but $21 MILLION ??????? It's all about making the lawyers fatter and richer!
Hmmm? $21 million? That's almost enough to merge the Spanish Cobras into the Daley Crime Family!
off topic but relating to the previous topic of "108 shot" the number is actually higher. if you look in data warehouse, clear, chris and in the web mapping features and combine all of that info you will find that the acutal victims of agg batt with a handgun is 132 from 19 jun 09 to 26 jun 09. the number of 108 is somewhat correct only because there were 108 incidents. some of these incidents had multiple gunshot victims which makes the exact number of gunshot victims 132. this does not include stabbings, but during that period there were no stabbing related homicides.. or at least none yet ruled homicides that were involving a knife. one of the homicides did involve a vehicle ramming and not gunfire. from what i am seeing it is a fairly bloody weekend. when monday or tuesday rolls around I will try to post the numbers for the weekend. for now, thats all I got. pretty violent... but still not as bad as the 90s as im sure many of you can still remember.
6/28/2009 02:42:00 AM
In your opinion, are detectives under pressure to keep the stats down? Maybe use some "discretion" in what is called what?
---not a cop
State law must be changed to give police officers the same immunity from civil suits as enjoyed by the States Attorneys and the Judges. Why are the police always the only ones left in the civil docket paying punitive damages for just doing your job.
One could argue that someone being assessed punitive damages was not just "doing their job". There has to be a way to punish wrongdoers regardless of whether they wear a badge or not. In any case, this was a federal lawsuit so changing the state statues on such things would not have made any difference.
State law must be changed to provide that there is no statue of limitations for Perjury. When you as a witness sign a written statement given to a States Attorney, testify under oath at the Grand Jury, testify under oath at a criminal trial, you can be criminally prosecuted if you decide to change your story after three years.
The statutes of limitation are there in part so prosecution cannot be held over someone's head forever. Presumably, if they changed their stories and they are now lying an investigation would show that and they could be charged with perjury now. Not a perfect situation.
When someone is arrested, there
is a two year window for filing a civil suit in Illinois, Federal Courts follow the state rules for the filing of civil suits. There should be no extension of time granted to file these Violation of Civil Rights suits.
You are going to have a tough time getting the feds to change the law on this. The reason the time limit is so long is that in many of the past cases of civil rights violations it took many, many years to prove it. A short time horizon would mean virtually every violator would scoot.
Personally, I do not see that it is impossible for this particular thug to have been convicted of a crime he did not commit, and still be a thug.
Bottom feeding lawyers twisted the civil trial to their own ends, suppressing information on Johnson's gang banging past and the fact that the FBI of all people "busted Johnson last year for allegedly selling drugs" while he was a member of CeaseFire.
I don't see how you can blame the bottom feeders for abiding by the federal court system rules, which for the most part are not especially friendly to a plaintiff in that kind of case.
I am not sure his other activities have anything to do with whether he was framed or not. He was not suing to be declared a saint.
If the FBI busted him recently, why was he not in the federal penn where he would be nice and safe?
libs we kill this country,oh already have!
Name of the plaintiff's atty? Let's start outing them!
6/28/2009 12:29:00 AM
Loevy and Loevy. It's always that Andy Dick looking jerkoff who makes millions off the CPD for the last 5 years.
The "victim" of that shooting will sue him for his piece of the $21 million.
By the time Johnson finishes fighting that civil case and his future criminal cases, the lawyers will have all of it.
Ain't this system grand.
Are the rumors true that the retired officer had to pay punitive damages stemming from this case?
6/28/2009 02:06:00 AM
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Those are not rumors.
The retired Gang Investigator has to pay $15,000 in punitives.
I'm sorry; I just have to say it:
he was turning his life around.
If this was the same fat f*ck they showed on t.v. how in the hell did they miss him?! He's well over 400 lbs.
Yes Retired officer had to apologize or pay. he chose pay and to keep his respect because he did everything right. cost him $15000
Among SCOTUS cases to be ruled upon tomorrow is the New Haven firefighters' promotion case:
RICCI v. DeSTEFANO
The Supremes will then adjourn to the first Monday in October.
OT- RIP BIlly Mays.
Unfortunately this is the true story.....looks like jag-off still alive with his dough
1 killed, 1 hurt in Humboldt Park shooting
June 27, 2009 5:24 PM | 8 Comments
A 37-year-old Berwyn man was killed and a woman wounded this morning in a shooting that may have been gang-related in Chicago's Humboldt Park neighborhood, police said.
The man and woman were riding in a sport-utility vehicle with two other people about 7 a.m. in the 2400 block of West North Avenue when another vehicle pulled up alongside the SUV. At least one occupant from that other vehicle opened fire at the SUV, police said, citing witness accounts.
The man shot, identified as Freddy Vazquez, 37, of the 2200 block of Kenilworth Avenue in Berwyn, went to nearby St. Elizabeth Hospital, where he was eventually pronounced dead, officials said.
The wounded woman, 32, also went to St. Elizabeth, but has since been transferred to another hospital. Police could not give out a condition for the woman this afternoon, but said she has been stabilized.
No one else was hurt.
Chicago Police Officer John Mirabelli said the shooting may have been gang-related, but he couldn't elaborate on that. He said no one was in custody as of this afternoon.
Grand-Central Area detectives were investigating Vazquez's death as a homicide.
--Jeremy Gorner
Why do any police work anymore? I work out West and when we make a good pinch we don't even get an honorable mention...WTF!! We are told its our job....well my new job is going to be driving around seeing how long I can ride out a job. You bosses make us not want to work!!!
Are you listening? Sgt? LT.? Commander?
When you don't give your guys and girls an attaboy when they do a great job than your crew aint gonna work to hard anymore. All it takes is going on the computer and typing up an award which takes all of 10 minutes, Tops! If you can't do that for your workers then you are not gonna get much work out of them anymore and rightfully so!
Just when you think morale can't get any lower IT DOES!!!
Does the retired officer have to pay punitive damages for that? please someone confirm!!!!!!!
Might as well put a lein on the criminal's 21 mil. He will eventually commit a violent act against someone, including the police.
Anonymous said...
OT:
I heard from a very good source that the contract negotiations are definitely going into arbitration and it will be at least another year before it is settled. Any union reps want to confirm?
6/28/2009 02:03:00 AM
Confirmed.
NO MORE PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR YOU!!!!!!
1 killed, 1 hurt in Humboldt Park shooting
June 27, 2009 5:24 PM | 8 Comments
A 37-year-old Berwyn man was killed and a woman wounded this morning in a shooting that may have been gang-related in Chicago's Humboldt Park neighborhood, police said.
**What would be absolutely priceless, if the family of the dead guy sues that jabba the hut looking millionaire mofo for wrongful death, being who he was put their poor son in a position to be killed. That would be justice and karma all wrapped into one big shit sandwich for him to eat**
As much as I hate to admit it, we really don't want to settle the contract right now. What chance do we have of getting a pay raise with the layoff of current city employees? One of the conditions of arbitration in determining a raise is the party's ability to pay (ie. the city to pay us).
Waiting a while and hoping the economy will improve gives us a better chance at a raise, as painful as it might be.
06:28 1:00 pm if you came on this job to get honorables you need to rethink why you risk your life everyday--- on the other hand, if you lock up people to get court time--- you may be onto something--- honorables are good when you get stranded in alaska and you need something to wipe your ass with.....
"6/28/2009 10:14:00 AM
&
6/28/2009 10:21:00 AM"
Aren't you usually still jerking off at this time on a Sunday morning?
Anonymous said...
OT:
I heard from a very good source that the contract negotiations are definitely going into arbitration and it will be at least another year before it is settled. Any union reps want to confirm?
6/28/2009 02:03:00 AM
Confirmed.
6/28/2009 05:00:00 PM
while working CHA had a boss tell us the same thing, so we wont be getting that retro till christmas of 2010
the fat jagoff wasn't in the car. i guess he loaned it out to some friends. some girl was driving. a female in the front passenger seat was shot. the dickhead who died was in the backseat.
but from what i heard, johnson wasn't in the car.
The city and Daly are laughing at the Police . Thay have no intention of giving out a contract unless it takes things away. There are not any real good faith talks going on and will not be. Daly made the statement that that will be taken care of in Five years. He said that last year. A lot of things happen in five years. FOP = No Power!!
Yes. The retired PO was hit with a punitive damages verdict of $16,000 which will most likely not be paid by the City and which he will have to pay. The City will have to pay $21 million. But, the blame should not be put on the corp. counsel's office. Contrary to what someone wrote, the deck is most definitely stacked in favor of the plaintiffs in these cases. Add to that the ideologue, elitist federal judges who view law enforcement and local government as guilty and incapable of being innocent and you get huge verdicts against the police and municipalities. It is the ultra liberal federal judges that are the problem. In the Johnson case, the attorneys for the City were not permitted to mention the plaintiff's gang affiliation or the fact that he had pending federal drug charges. Not only that, the feds cooperated with plaintiff's attorneys by agreeing to postpone this thug's guilty plea, so it could not be introduced against him in the civil case. To the civil jury this clown appeared to be an innocent who was snatched off the street and framed by the police and spent 10 years in prison.
Your beef is not with the defense lawyers, it is with the plaintiff's attorneys who have made you and law enforcement the prey and the federal judges who condone and encourage it. Our justice system is upside down and it isn't going to be righted anytime soon.
Police shooting in 007 again. Seem to be alot more than usual this year. Officers fine and bad guy with fully loaded 9mm critical in stroger.
Good shoot, Bad guy where he should be stay safe out their. 007 district most dangerous place in the nation, these streets aint no joke,they will take your life for a dollar.
This dummy won 21mil. Lives near Drake/Medill. The feds picked him up last year on a conspiracy case and he is out on bond. How long will he live to see that 21mil?
Perhaps a bit off topic - perhaps not. Check out Mary Mitchell's column in todays ST - "Innocent girl pays with life for adults' sins". Lays blame completely where it needs to be, and doesn't blame cops, society, or "mommy not hugging me enough" for gang bangers being a-holes. Good stuff, methinks.
80th & Mozart this evening, person shot by an offender allegedly armed with a .30 caliber rifle.
Be safe out there.
The pendulum will swing on Monday. Weasel's staff will order officers to unlawfully stop and search all bicyclists and impound their bicycles.
6/28/2009 01:28:00 AM
Squad, can I get an event number for a Banana Seat Mission?
OT-Credit where credit is due, Dugan just issued an order stating that as of 29 Jun, cargo shorts can be worn on patrol. Decision was based on po's requests at roll calls.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
OT:
I heard from a very good source that the contract negotiations are definitely going into arbitration and it will be at least another year before it is settled. Any union reps want to confirm?
6/28/2009 02:03:00 AM
Confirmed.
6/28/2009 05:00:00 PM
Just Got off the phone with my rep in 051 Jeff and he said arbitration will start august 01!
This story smells like bullshit. SCC, Please try to confirm this shit b4 posting. While I hope itz true, I don't believe a word of it.
The scum sucking law firm is Loevy and Loevy and they consistently kick the asses of those inept incompetent bitch attorneys in the Corp Counsels's office
6/28/2009 08:28:00 AM
Our States Attornies are bound by the law and a level of integrity. The bottom feeders know nothing of truth and fair play. They are in it for the money, and they don't care. They have no conscious.
Additionally, there is nothing stopping them from lying and cheating with their clients. They are never prosecuted or disbarred. There is no reason for them not to steal from the taxpayers.
You have to love this liberal fucked up society... The country is lost people... Every man for himself...
O.T.: r.g is a complete joke she's a rat !! and j.a is always behind her , theyre never apart, maybe its because no one else likes them except for that idiot supervisor of theirs.those idiots just put a bad example on the 14th district map.....
If you ask anyone in 014 about this they can tell you how about R.G., aka "Look at my stats Renee" getting fucked up at the bar last sunday and calling 014 dist for car to follow her home to avoid dui. When told no, she got all pissed demanding a car to follow her. This is the kindof bullshit with less than 3 years on the dept. But thats ok her buddy Tom Byrne will help her out.
Why are you hatin' and say mean things to Phil Schitz? He's OK and he likes the police. Save the bashing for our haters.
"Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever you can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser - in fees, expenses, and waste of time. As a peacemaker the lawyer has a superior opportunity of being a good man. There will still be business enough." - Abraham Lincoln
honorables also make good wallpaper. I almost have my basement bathroom done.
People are focused on issues like CARGO SHORTS,that is why the city doesn't take us seriously.Focus on issues like doing WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON JUL3RD.
O.T.: r.g is a complete joke she's a rat !! and j.a is always behind her , theyre never apart, maybe its because no one else likes them except for that idiot supervisor of theirs.those idiots just put a bad example on the 14th district map.....
6/29/2009 12:01:00 AM
you must be pretty sour. i know r.g. and j.a. they are good coppers- they work hard and come in with their share of good shit. i don't know them outside of work, so i can't speak to that. then again, i don't really care what she does off duty- it doesn't effect me. but, i do know that at work, they are better than most.
Why are you hatin' and say mean things to Phil Schitz? He's OK and he likes the police. Save the bashing for our haters.
6/29/2009 12:04:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever you can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser - in fees, expenses, and waste of time. As a peacemaker the lawyer has a superior opportunity of being a good man. There will still be business enough." - Abraham Lincoln
6/29/2009 12:30:00 AM
The problem is, for the most part, lawyers are not good men to begin with.
1:00PM....Grow up.
"Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever you can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser - in fees, expenses, and waste of time. As a peacemaker the lawyer has a superior opportunity of being a good man. There will still be business enough." - Abraham Lincoln
6/29/2009 12:30:00 AM
".....There will still be business enough."
Business enough will be the norm, but only until there is a glut of lawyers, and with a glut, will come an expansion of numbers across the spectrum from most scrupulous to least scrupulous, while concurrently leading to less and less business to go around. With less and less business to go around, I fear, the competition will become intense and the number of lawyers at the least scrupulous end of the spectrum will become the largest. With the largest number at the least scrupulous end of the spectrum, a compromise will not be encouraged or offered as an option to a neighbor, as it is not in the best interest of the lawyer. The unscrupulous lawyers will not seek to be peacemakers and will cast aside the superior opportunity to be good men. The unscrupulous lawyers will then seek to become unscrupulous politicians and, becoming so, further pollute the morals and honor of our society, thereby further infecting our society and country with the cancers known as amorality and dishonor.
Ace TruDat FoSure UhHuh Lincoln II
2009
Now that's Karma....Kramer?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Name of the plaintiff's atty? Let's start outing them!
6/28/2009 12:29:00 AM
The scum sucking law firm is Loevy and Loevy and they consistently kick the asses of those inept incompetent bitch attorneys in the Corp Counsels's office
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Hey, Idiot!
It was an outside firm that lost the case.
they got the whole low down on this guy at
www.wrongfulconvictionlawsuitdefense.com
can you believe the US Attorney's office went along with that deal?
Finally someone is exposing this crap
we have so many POOL CARS WITH no AC!! oh now I get why we get to wear shorts..
Regarding the comment about RG from 014 being drunk and needing a ride home. Even if you do not like her you should give her a ride home. At least she did the right thing and called for a ride rather then drive herself. We do not need another cop hitting the headlines for something that could have been avoided. I believe the beat car that showed up and refused her a ride is a complete stroke. That is why this department will never be like it use to be, because every one is vindictive and worried only about their own litte world and no one else matters. People we need to stop this bs and all get on the same page.
From someone who was there:
The case was developed and lineups conducted by detectives, not the accused former gang crimes investigator.
Four offenders were identified at lineups by four witnessss.
All four were charged with murder.
The mishandling...
The States attorneys (1989) did not lock anyone into the grand jury. No witnesses testified at the grand jury under oath.
The prosecution was NOT handled by the gang prosecution unit, but given over to an asa of questionable ability Lori Levine.
the prosectution was asigned to a light duty questionable judge Shelvin Singer.
Levine and Singer handled the case as an ongoing start/stop murder trial of four defendants which lasted six months. In the end Singer finding the fourth defendant 'not guilty.'
A couple of the fingers at the lineup who were now incarcerated for other heavy duty offenses and doing hard time gave statements to the effect that they were coerced into making an ID at the lineups by the now retired gang crime detective investigator.
The appelate court granted a new trial...not having anyone locked into the grand jury, the two IDs at the lineup testified at a retrial that the retired gang crime investigator told them who to pick. (whether they did it for future monetary gain or more likely protection against death as they were locked up). In fact the fourth defendant now having stood trial and found 'not guily' took the stand and swore that he in fact was the offender who killed the victim, not having any fear because he stood trial the crime before..
The federal judge would not allow the word 'gang" to be used at all in the trial.
'Witnesses' were flown in from federal penitentiaries around the country without the juries awareness of who these people were.
The law firm hired by the corp counsel did the best they could against these odds.. a decked stacked against justice, and the lost...
This story smells like bullshit. SCC, Please try to confirm this shit b4 posting. While I hope itz true, I don't believe a word of it.
6/28/2009 10:26:00 PM
why don't you get some BASIC police skills, look up the incident history in clear, get the rd (not that many homicides in 014 at 0700 hours, so it shouldn't be too hard to find), get the report off chris, then run the plate of the victim vehicle. you'll see it's absolutely true.
seriously- if you can't figure a way to confirm this on your own, i hope you aren't a cop, because you suck. and if you are a cop and depend on scc or anyone else to confirm it because you're too lazy to do the legwork, then you still suck.
The city should first of all appeal the verdict. Then investigate the attorney to see if they were competent
"seriously- if you can't figure a way to confirm this on your own, i hope you aren't a cop, because you suck. and if you are a cop and depend on scc or anyone else to confirm it because you're too lazy to do the legwork, then you still suck."
great reply!! way to call bullshit, with no research. i hope this guy/gal smells the sun times and the tribune every morning.
Hey, Idiot!
It was an outside firm that lost the case.
6/29/2009 02:57:00 PM
That speaks volumes. They couldn't even find someone in the Corp Counsel's office qualified to lose the case for them, had to go outside and pay the big bucks to lose it.
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