Whining About Cars
Gee, we struck a nerve with the take home car post. Seems a whole bunch of 35th Street types blitzed the comment sections telling us all how we should quit bitching about take home cars, that anyone who was offered a car would take it, that we shouldn't be complaining about this when the city is trying to take away Uniform and Duty Availability pay.
NEWSFLASH!!!!
It's because of all this extraneous waste and ego inflating crap that the city is crying "poor" and attempting to take away what we've won over the years. We still haven't seen anyone justify 25 take home cars for Tactical Lieutenants. Or MLAS. Or Finance Division. Or any of another 50 or 60 more cars that haven't had emergency call outs in years, if ever.
Did you know that Asset Forfeiture has a take home Beemer? How much are taxpayers (which we are) paying for that crap? They couldn't get an Escort or a Honda? Un-freaking-believable.
The CTA cut 68 cars and expects to save hundreds of thousands. CPD could cut 200 take home cars tomorrow and save a few million. There's most if not all of our Duty Availability or Uniform Allowances in one lump sum.
So to all you 35th Street types claiming this is "dirty laundry" or a "non-issue," guess again. This directly affects every one of us, and not just because it's funny as hell seeing the exempts and their staff come out in full force to attempt to defend the indefensible.
The mayor says the city is broke and we all better get in the boat to experience the pain together. Hop aboard "boss."
NEWSFLASH!!!!
It's because of all this extraneous waste and ego inflating crap that the city is crying "poor" and attempting to take away what we've won over the years. We still haven't seen anyone justify 25 take home cars for Tactical Lieutenants. Or MLAS. Or Finance Division. Or any of another 50 or 60 more cars that haven't had emergency call outs in years, if ever.
Did you know that Asset Forfeiture has a take home Beemer? How much are taxpayers (which we are) paying for that crap? They couldn't get an Escort or a Honda? Un-freaking-believable.
The CTA cut 68 cars and expects to save hundreds of thousands. CPD could cut 200 take home cars tomorrow and save a few million. There's most if not all of our Duty Availability or Uniform Allowances in one lump sum.
So to all you 35th Street types claiming this is "dirty laundry" or a "non-issue," guess again. This directly affects every one of us, and not just because it's funny as hell seeing the exempts and their staff come out in full force to attempt to defend the indefensible.
The mayor says the city is broke and we all better get in the boat to experience the pain together. Hop aboard "boss."
Labels: department issues, un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 1:05 AM
245 Comments:
You whooped 'em again Josey!
While I agree that they definitely could cut alot of take home cars out, especially in OCD, sorry guys you all aren't buy officers, and gang intel, why do you need them again? numerous positions at 35th, but keep in mind it is all a write- off for the city, gas, upkeep etc. so it isn't the big deal that you imagine. All Commanders should have them, as well as upper-level exempts and C.O.s of units and that's it. Get ready for more as the new rumor in TRU is that the Sgts. will be taking their cars home soon, once they move into their new digs in the old 007th Dist. station, per a source at 35th.
I dont think that anyone would really complain if someone has a take home car that has a legitimate reason for one. But on the other hand secretaries and inside people dont need one. The LT of central detention doesnt need one. The list goes on and on.
Don't get in the boat.
Did you know that Asset Forfeiture has a take home Beemer? How much are taxpayers (which we are) paying for that crap? They couldn't get an Escort or a Honda? Un-freaking-believable.
Yeah, Im gonna go out on a limb and say the
"Beamer" was a forfeited asset. Come on SCC, that was weak.
The majority of covert vehicles in ocd were seized and forfeited -which is mostly achieved by ocd personnel. The lease vehicles all happen to be of a few select makes because they offer a discount price.
Does that rich girl with the Harvard degree in police from Wilmette, who thinks that they are a cop, Michele Masters get a car???? Mikey, care to comment.........
why stop at take home cars; what about the golden parachute pensions the bosses get?
When they were hired they were promised a patrolmans pension, that's it! Perhaps they should save some of that extra salary they get as a boss to feather their nest and quit bankrupting "OUR" pension fund!
And, the bitching is coming from people who need uniform allowance the least.
As a tact lt in a bad district, I've had to
go to at least four meetings a week during my on and off hours...
Respond to major gang incidents including gang funerals during various hours
be a search warrant supervisor during various hours
Get bounced around to various districts on various shifts as an acting WC
Tact lt is a shit job and I'm glad I let it go -screw the take home car.
Now that we're talking about waste and fraud lets talk about the time due slips with blank ending times and early ducks and slip holding...
Screw the 35th St whiners...and I don't mean Ozzie Guillen and the White Sox!
No raise, no retro, overtime to be halted, and furlough days are coming.
Hey SCC, there is a link on the left had side of the e-track homepage menu that says "police Vehicles" with a red "new".
Take a gander at it, its pretty funny. Apparently it is a pamphlet that was created showcasing police vehicles. Who knows why, probably for the Olympic committee. But anyway to the point. Check out the rust bucket vehicle pictures!!!! I mean come on people, if your going to create a pamphlet for the public maybe you could pick new clean cars or even send a couple over to Earl Scheib for a $200 paint job or at least Photoshop the pictures so all the rust and body damage doesn't show up so clearly. What a joke this department is!!!
It is funny how people look at a little perk and value that over more money. It's cheaper to have your own applicable vehicle that fits your budget instead of taking depreciating asset like a car in lieu of cash.
always.
if having a shitty low end car is a perk not worth giving up.. well, i have a bridge to sell you.
you are right, SCC. morons.
Hey,I have to have take-home cars for my Honey-bunnies that are in my harem!If this shit keeps up,I am gonna have to retire...
REPLACE THESE CARS WITH THOSE NEW
"SMART" CARS AND HAVE FUN WATCHING
THEM PULLING UP TO STARBUCKS,
PICKING UP DRY CLEANING,
STOPPING IN AT LANE BRYANT...
THERE WOULD BE CLUSTERS OF THEM
IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS. YOU KNOW,
THE "SMART" ONES, AND DOTS AROUND
OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY...
NEEDLESS WASTE, JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE...
IF NEEDLESS WASTE WERE ELIMINATED
FROM ALL BUREAUCRAZY OUR TAXES
WOULD NEVER HAVE TO BE RAISED...
BUT THAT WOULD BE UTOPIA FOR US.
WE LIVE IN THEIR UTOPIA HOWEVER,
AND THEIR UTOPIA IS,
HOGS FEEDING AT THE PUBLIC TROUGH!
THANKS BROTHERS.
I see you responded on your post about the uniform and shift pay and dirty laundry...but I didn't see the original post.......... I agreed that there are a lot people with take home cars that shouldn't have them.... I think I said that in my orinal post.....
What about all the take home cars in Vice, When was the last time one of those clout heavy Sgt's had to do any type of work or called out for anything other than a good deal at best buy!
I was getting fuel at North/Throop and saw about 16 Dodge pickups with crew cabs parked next to the pumps. The guy at the pumps said that they've been there for weeks now. All are rentals. Why does the city need rentals and not use them???
The Take Home Cars are Bull Shit!! There is no need for "I need my car because Im so important" Inst that why we have a chain of command. Besides we have 3 watches too so there is coverage all the time
EXEMPT RANK MEANS IM ABOVE ALL YOU NO CLOUT POs. WHY DO YOU THINK ITS CALLED EXEMPT??? Enjoy your pay at the pump
That Beemr and other high end vehicles that some units drive are siezed vehicles.......
This is what i don't understand. I see Postal cars w/ no plates at all. A. why do marked cars need plates and do we pay for those? do they come out of the budget? B. Why do we have unmarked cars w/ passenger plates,(commanders, inspecters..etc) does that come out of the budget, paying for the registration each year. Why does anyone need passenger plates? I mean if an inspector is going to get you for not having your name tag on, your personal car w/ no city sticker, state regist., dirty plate or any other pimpy thing he can come up w/ does he need an UNMARKED CAR W/ PASSENGER PLATES. I don't think so. He could have a cpd tank and do the same thing. now commanders i've seen them out in shorts and a tshirt on their day off, taking car of business but passenger plates really? We just think they are inspectors.
You know because I've been so busy for the last 15 years working a beat car (which I actually like doing especially when I see so many others laid off) then going to my part time job and working my days off to feed myself and my family,pay my bills and $4000 a year in property taxes for a 1000 sq foot house.Iv'e never had much time to really take notice of or give much thought to all of the money wasted on unnecesary take home cars.However now that it's been pointed out the hypocrisy of it sickens me. I mean why would the Education and Training Division need even one take home car? Who knows how many others there are we don't even know about.This ranks right up there with the obscene merit process and the fact that P.O's assigned to the mayors detail get Sgt's pay and the Sg'ts get Commanders pay as the 3 things epitomizing waste and corruption in our department.
O'Keefe needs a take home car in the event he needs to kiss the mayor's ass.
I dont have a car nor do i work at 35th, but why do they have to justify to SCC why they get cars, and you WOULD take one if one was offered to you!
MOve on makes you sound petty, lets work on the bigger issues, Safety, work conditions, man power, contract...
OT
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-tc-biz-brf-indicators-0720-0jul21,0,2774476.story
cant cry poor forever !!!! lets go to arbitration !!!
The average citizen reads about the uniform allowance and marvels at how shabby some coppers look when they get money for uniform replacement....and then of course there's the wives who. for decades, were never made aware there IS a uniform allowance.
Here at juvenile probation, we drive our own cars all day long to do our job. At the end of the month we fill out a mileage voucher to be reimbursed , and then 2-3 months later we get a mileage reimbursment check from the county. I have never understood how people who ACTUALLY NEED need a car to do thier job have to use their own, while so many people in the city and county who DON'T need one to do their job get one for free.
35th Street? How 'bout Homan Square? Would somebody please explain to me the type of emergency that would necessitate the Lt., sergeants and p.o.'s in the License Investigation Unit to all have take home cars? "Ooh - bum-f... club on Madison has expired license - Call em out at 3:00 a.m., catch those suckers off-guard" Puleese! That's a money saver right there, Ernie!
OT a recent AP. article states crime at a 40 year low in all major U.S. citys and experts are baffled. My opinon, police nation wide are less aggressive, less arrests equals lower crime. Street/drug gangs are becoming smarter and more disiplined and way more politicaly connected. There maybe less bad guy killing bad guy today, but will that be a good thing in years to come?
Yep...I agree. Take away the take home cars. But first off...screw the olympics first. We have money, someone doesn't want to part with it though...Oh Yea...I want our free Health Care benefits restored. I can't even meet the damn deductable anymore...so I pay for insurance I cannot use. Don't lose anything we have...so screw it...let em keep their cars. Take anything you can from this city...they already take from us and want more...
All take home vehicles should have M-plates.
Also, the city automatically non-suits red light camera vehicle citations on all CPD vehicles. It would be interesting to see how many of these citations go to take home vehicles in off-duty hours and on the weekends!
i would guess the bmw was a FORFEITED car that ASSET FORFEITURE uses
come on use your brain a little
ANY give back is still a give back that won't be gotten back.
I said it yesterday SCC, I too am unhappy with my take home car.
How the hell am I to function with a 2007 Buick Lacrosse when it does not have an I-Pod adaptor?
What kind of shit is that?
I am worth so much more than the free gas...I need to have that I-Pod adaptor. My radio thingy I bought at Circuit City does not work that great.
The arrogant sense of entitlement of some of these company car doofuses is beyond the pale--all at taxpayer expense.
The "merit" assholes that couldn't track down a felon if their very life depended upon it would make any street cop's blood pressure boil.
With no foreseeable need for an emergency call-out on a police-related homicide, would I take a free company car if offered? NO! It's called PRIDE, HONOR and SELF-RESPECT. I'd drive my own vehicle or have my district of residence haul me Code 3.
Aside from draining our pension coffers with this "gold braid" shit, the retirement of these worthless, political hacks sounds the death knell on any delusions of "respect" that these parasites had entertained. Many find they are now just garden variety jagoffs. KMA!
In a recent conversation with our last superintendent with a recently retired "legend" standing at my side, I asked Cline why he had never elevated this man to exempt status. Without batting an eye, Phil replied because "he wouldn't take it".
Stay classy, you modest sonofabitch!
Once again the mayor has succeeded in dividing us. Thats his game, to divide and conquer. As long as we are fighting with each other we cant put up a fight against him. Remember folks, its us against him, not us fighting each other!!
Looks like SCC has ruffled some feathers. Keep doing what you do...DON'T LET UP.
Take those fucking cars away from those prissy fucks on the dept. If they don't like it let them quit.
Simple. Eliminate all take home cars. Those who feel that they deserve one for Department related emergency responses can request one citing their reasons and justifications. These will be reviewed on a case by case basis and decided by ME.
That's right! You heard me. I WILL DECIDE WHO GETS A CAR!
That's the only way I can be sure everything is legit and that nobody is playin no crapola!
Hey! I'm a very fair-minded guy! Just get those requests to me typed, double spaced and composed in an intelligible manner, (half the cars were probably eliminated RIGHT THERE) and you will have my determination by the close of business today. GOOD LUCK!
Ed.Note: These requests may be sent in large envelopes containing any supporting documentation necessary to verify your claims. These "documents" should be in large denominations ONLY and the serial numbers should be in nonsequential order.
This is not a competition, but feel free to OUTDOCUMENT the other submitters!
Oh yeah lets not forget the Animal Abuse unit !
The BMW was a SEIZURE by another unit, that A/F legally seized. So it's a free car--ASSET FORFEITURE. What should they do, sell it for $100 like the pounds do because they are politically connected? How come no one has ever asked why we don't take the pound cars and use them for TACT cars?????
Also, did you know REZKO owns the pound land at 701 N. Sacramento and gets some ridiculous rent per month from the city? Hello reporters?
The first stop should be Homan Square. Asset forfeiture (Merit Lt. MS, you should be ashamed of the Beemer). Why do the dicks and sergeants in Cold Case and Financial Crimes get take home cars? Most of them don't show up for work half the time anyway. Do they need cars to do their grocery shopping and transport kids to school? The answer is "Yes".
Remember the movie "The Jerk" with Steve Martin? Pretty funny back then. You. SCC, have finally found your "special purpose"! Exposing this waste is a good start.
Now, let's get to some more. Not just the Police Department, ALL of City government. The members of the Department have always been privy to the skeletons. Lets let them out for the good of the taaxpayers.
In Glenview, all the department heads received a large SUV, plus all the gas and mainteance, for their "take home" car. Glenview then did their boondoggle Glenview Naval Air Station Project, hiring a Chicago real estate developer to help the municipal staff manage project. DEVELOPER'S lead person ALSO received a Glenview "take-home" car, complete with gas, service, car-wash priveleges etc, for duration of project. Unbelievable waste.
Department heads also received a municipal-paid credit card for their "expenses". Who knows what other expenses were comped; these department heads were also compensated well above their ability level as well as private sector equivalent pay-scales. And the Glenview taxpayers had no say.
Then Village Manager Paul McCarthy (yes) had a spectacular performance contract that guaranteed his pay for 25 YEAR CONTRACT PERIOD - even if he chose to leave, or was fired. Poor Glenview taxpayers!
Just this week Tribune and Crains noted that Glenview Naval Air Station's poorly-conceived shopping center is likely to go into foreclosure, with a history of poor sales and vacancies.
Far too many "niceties" are laddled upon public sector senior-management positions. Most private corporations have already done away with the perks for most senior management positions (aside from senior executive level).
************KUDOS*******************CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK-YOU!!!!
To the caller who asked Andy Shaw of the Better Government Association to define what "merit", is in relation to promotions on the Chicago Police & Fire Departments.
Andy Shaw was the guest host on WLS 890AM this morning, filling in for Don & Roma. This caller called in at 8:15AM and asked very poignant and focused questions. Andy Shaw attempted to initially weasel out of it, stating,"that merit is the law".
The caller asked, "why there is no definitive definition of "merit"?
Andy Shaw asked for an email detailing the problem with merit on the CPD and CFD.
Everyone, please take a minute and drop a brief and courteous email to the Better Government Association, c/o Andy Shaw.
E-mail; info@bettergov.org
Better Government Association
11 East Adams Street, Suite 608
Chicago, IL 60603
Phone: (312) 427-8330
Fax: (312) 386-9203
andyshaw@bettergov.org
I have an unrelated comment, but it goes along with a common topic on here. Andy Shaw is filling in for Daon and Roma on WLS today, and he asked people to call in with their concerns about government, saying he'd follow up on their concerns if they emailed him.
A caller asked about "merit" promotions on the Police and Fire Departments being awarded based on clout. Andy said to email him with specific examples, and he'd look in to them.
I wonder how many emails to Andy this "insignificant" blog could generate by asking readers to contact him with specific (and hopefully somewhat provable) examples of merit promotions being awarded based on clout.
His email ashaw@bettergov.org
YOUR FUNNY SCC. EVERYONE HOP ON BOARD!
I have heard several people with take home cars bragg how they haven't put gas in their own cars for over three months! Us have nots really like to hear shit like that when we fill up once a week. I also saw a narcotics LT driving a very expense mercedes benz the other week. Is that necessary? There is no reason for the majority of the dept. to have a take home car when all they do is drive to work in it.
Bravo, well said.
LoL @ 35th st.
I agree. Too many take homes for non-essential duty positions. It just doesn't make economic sense, particularly in these tough times.
Give it up, clout babies.
The reason Tact Lt's have take home cars is for many of the reasons stated in a previous post but also because if not for that perk no one would do the job. Tact is a voluntary position and without that perk all the bullshit meetings and work that a field Lt does not have to do would not be worth it. They can't force you to be a tact Lt so most would quit. As a matter of fact I think they should all quit and tell them to stick the car up their ass but that's just my opinion.
I agree with most on this post but how about taking away all the take home cars, then using all the impounded vehicles and seized vehicles to replace them instead of selling them for 100 dollars to a connected person with a used car lot. Seized cars would make better tact cars anyway. Let the Tact Lt. take home a nissan or something. As for the other people at 35th street make them justify why they need a car as stated earlier on the post.
121am post. write off? city is not for profit entity. they dont pay income tax. not a write off just another expense.
Ya,and lets take away the FOPs cars too.Must be nice to ride around on someone dime,oh wait they do.
Anonymous said...
While I agree that they definitely could cut alot of take home cars out, especially in OCD, sorry guys you all aren't buy officers, and gang intel, why do you need them again? numerous positions at 35th, but keep in mind it is all a write- off for the city, gas, upkeep etc. so it isn't the big deal that you imagine. All Commanders should have them, as well as upper-level exempts and C.O.s of units and that's it. Get ready for more as the new rumor in TRU is that the Sgts. will be taking their cars home soon, once they move into their new digs in the old 007th Dist. station, per a source at 35th.
7/21/2009 01:21:00 AM
A write off for what? idiot!
Can anyone justify inspectors taking home cars. Do they get called out for an emerengcy "no name plate in court" call?
Anonymous said...
As a tact lt in a bad district, I've had to
go to at least four meetings a week during my on and off hours...
Respond to major gang incidents including gang funerals during various hours
be a search warrant supervisor during various hours
Get bounced around to various districts on various shifts as an acting WC
Tact lt is a shit job and I'm glad I let it go -screw the take home car.
Now that we're talking about waste and fraud lets talk about the time due slips with blank ending times and early ducks and slip holding...
7/21/2009 01:54:00 AM
And here it is...proof that Shortshanks has won. Divide and conquer. Now we are bitching at ourselves. Patrolmen in one corner, bosses in another, detectives in another, and specialized units each on their own side. Every copper knows that we could never get together on ANY issue, but when we were attacked we ALL STOOD TOGETHER. JFed and Shortshanks have gotten exactly what they wanted. They have heaped adverse conditions upon adverse conditions and caused us to turn on ourselves. We need a leader. We need something to band us back together. We need something like the march earlier this year. And this time it has to be bigger. It has to include ALL of the city unions that got fucked or who are about to get fucked. WE ALL HAVE TO STAND TOGETHER. So much for my William Wallace rant against King Shortshanks the Undersized.
Its the educated ego asshats that believe they are much better than us the plain old wrokin street cop. They think they deserve the car becasue of their education. truth is they couldnt last one tour doing real police work!
Anonymous said...
This is what i don't understand. I see Postal cars w/ no plates at all.
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Vehicles belonging to the United States Government do not need plates.
Anonymous said...
"As a tact lt in a bad district...
...Now that we're talking about waste and fraud lets talk about the time due slips with blank ending times and early ducks and slip holding ..."
7/21/2009 01:54:00 AM
OH NO YOU DON'T ! ! !
SCC! Make this guy stay on the original topic! We don't wanna hear no lies ! ! !
I think everybody should have to trade in their Chicago Police Department cars for Chicago Police Department 18 wheeler's!!
Hi there,
I work in the Marine Unit and I think I would like to start taking the boat home!!
What about IAD Confidential, why do they need take home cars, why cant they just take a car when doing the investigating? What about a husband and wife that both have take home cars and are patrolmen? And neither work out of 35th. Would like to get rid of that gasoline payment to.
Hey Tact Lt.
Who put the gun to you head to take the Lt test? You make over $120K a year with duty av, uniform, ot, sup. quarterly, working out of grade, working out of area, mandatory supervisor meetings, 45min ot everyday, etc. and get a take home car. I'm sure you put in a full 8.5hrs everyday and a half hour lunch. But the nerve of the lowly blue shirt to ask for an extra hour of ot or hold a slip!
You are the problem cry baby.
Yeah, Im gonna go out on a limb and say the
"Beamer" was a forfeited asset. Come on SCC, that was weak.
Speaking as the biggest Miami Vice geek on the Department.
Sonny got the seized Testarossa and the Lt got the unmarked Diplomat.
NO OLYMPICS
"Yeah, Im gonna go out on a limb and say the
"Beamer" was a forfeited asset. Come on SCC, that was weak.
7/21/2009 01:27:00 AM"
An 'asset', asshat, that could be sold to raise revenue, which can then be used for more important things.
Off Topic, but one of the coppers in Jersey City that was involved in that gunfight last week has died. Officer DiNardo, 37 YOA passed away. He leaves three small children and a wife behind.
RIP Brother.
Yeah, Im gonna go out on a limb and say the "Beamer" was a forfeited asset. Come on SCC, that was weak.
Weak? Not at all. Instead of driving it why doesn't the city sell it at auction?
Anonymous said...
OT a recent AP. article states crime at a 40 year low in all major U.S. citys and experts are baffled. My opinon, police nation wide are less aggressive, less arrests equals lower crime. Street/drug gangs are becoming smarter and more disiplined and way more politicaly connected. There maybe less bad guy killing bad guy today, but will that be a good thing in years to come?
7/21/2009 06:21:00 AM
OR, every PD out there is juking stats to keep hirings down...
"I dont have a car nor do i work at 35th, but why do they have to justify to SCC why they get cars, and you WOULD take one if one was offered to you!
MOve on makes you sound petty, lets work on the bigger issues, Safety, work conditions, man power, contract...
7/21/2009 05:56:00 AM"
And I suppose, because you suck cock, that you assume everyone else would do so, if cock was offered to them?
"Here at juvenile probation, we drive our own cars all day long to do our job. At the end of the month we fill out a mileage voucher to be reimbursed , and then 2-3 months later we get a mileage reimbursment check from the county. I have never understood how people who ACTUALLY NEED need a car to do thier job have to use their own, while so many people in the city and county who DON'T need one to do their job get one for free.
7/21/2009 06:17:00 AM"
They've got 'oral skills' you would not want to have.
"7/21/2009 06:21:00 AM"
So, now the AP is on the propaganda wagon?
Ie., reported, documented crime is far different than actual crime being committed.
Always.
Dear J-Dork,
Can you please put a helipad on top of my house so I can start taking my helicopter home. Hugs and Kisses!
Air 1
"Once again the mayor has succeeded in dividing us. Thats his game, to divide and conquer. As long as we are fighting with each other we cant put up a fight against him. Remember folks, its us against him, not us fighting each other!!
7/21/2009 07:43:00 AM"
So, I take it you are one of the us's with a take home?
Now that we're talking about waste and fraud lets talk about the time due slips with blank ending times and early ducks and slip holding...
Yes, lets. As a blue shirt that is all I can hope to get. I'm not making the salary that you are my friend. Gee, you have to fill in as a WC once in a while, oh boo fuckin hoo. You have to repsond to a shooting at any time? Well, last I looked, that was part of YOUR job description.
And can I say it's safe to assume that you have taken some of these early ducks while wearing those bars on your shoulders?
Your middle name wouldn't happen to be MERIT now would it?
Do any of you see what is happening? You are all turning on each other by bashing people with take home cars and clout. The city wants this, they want us to turn against each other so that we do not stick together in unity. We can all go on forever about all of the useless positions and waste on this job but that does not mean we can't all stick together. Let's fight for what we have, fight for more, and give up nothing. The city is poor because of corruption and it is mismanaged not because of take home cars and early ducks and useless positions. Keep what we have and try to get more!
Anonymous said...
"OT a recent AP. article states crime at a 40 year low in all major U.S. citys and experts are baffled..."
7/21/2009 06:21:00 AM
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I'm a crime expert and I'm not baffled at all.
While discussing this topic, they can only discuss REPORTED CRIME. There is, obviously, no way to determine what would be the effect of unreported crime OR how much of it exists.
In conclusion, and in my expert opinion, I believe that there is a much greater discrepancy between REPORTED crime versus UNREPORTED crime today than there used to be, and this is what is causing the 40 year low.
I'm guessing, however, that Chicagoans are sporting many more bullet wounds this year than in past seasons.
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MOve on makes you sound petty, lets work on the bigger issues, Safety, work conditions, man power, contract...
7/21/2009 05:56:00 AM
Until we all come together as one department that will never happen.
Motor City, here we come!
On Friday, four Detroit Police cruisers provided an escort to two hearses carrying stuff animals to a cemetery in tribute to Michael Jackson.
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2009/07/dying_major_cit_3.html
OT: President Barack Obama's Chicago home: City spends at least $2.2 million to protect it
Babbling Fool Jacquelyn Heard says the city will be reimbursed. The secret service says No Way.
She is such a fool.
Keep bringing the foolish spending to the public, maybe they will get a clue.
Lots of good points being made here. It just reaffirms SCC's point that this department has been mismanaged into the ground, and it didn't start with J-Fed,or Cline, or even Hilliard. It goes much further back than that. That being said, J-Fed now is in a position to correct this long history of mismanagement. Starting right here with take home cars. There is a lot of waste with take home cars. Anyone that actually responds to emergencies from their home, on a call back or call out basis should have a take home car. Cmdr's, SWAT, I might even agree with tact Lt's, they do get called out on occasion. Any house mouse that works in an admin spot does not rate a car. CAPS, Neighborhood relations, secretaries to the deputies, take em away. Someone posted a comment about the BMW from asset forfeiture. He/She makes a great point, why aren't all these cars that we seize each year being put into our fleet??? Make tact cars, hell, stripe 'em out, put great big letters on the side that say, "TAKEN FROM A DRUG DEALER" and put it on the streets so the dope dealers get the idea. The suburbs do this all the time. Go to the Springfield Memorial in May and see how many suburban departments use seized vehicles as squads. Not here, and why not? If a suburb can do it why can't we? There is mass quantities of mismanagement. J-Fed, open your eyes, get rid of the wolves who continue to pull the wool over your eyes and start acting like a real superintendent. Make some of the tough calls, cut some of the political dead weight eating this department alive and make us a proud organization again. Then you might actually improve morale and garner a bit of respect from the "rank and file." (Not a big fan of that term, we are actually the "HEART AND SOUL" of this department)
OT: Bow ouch! City's Animal Care cuts adoption schedule
--More penny pinching from the mayor. Animal Control should be out there working all hours. More stupid decisions!
That's right! You heard me. I WILL DECIDE WHO GETS A CAR!
Funny as hell! Laughed my ass off at this one. Great post my friend!
I just thought I'd thank you for this stuff about cars and the budget. It's real reporting and it's constructive.
To this guy ...
>$4000 a year in property taxes for a 1000 sq foot house.
... some advice:
Why are you paying $4,000 for 1,000 sq ft.? I live in the city and pay less for a 2-flat with both units 1,000 sq. ft. Maybe you should check out other neighborhoods.
I have a take home car, I attend on average two meetings a week, which I don't get o.t. for, and I do not use the car to pick up laundry, take kids to school, go shopping, etc..
I would gladly give up the car to a tact officer if I thought they wouldn't treat it like a garbage dump and drive it into the ground. One of the reasons some of our patrol division cars are so shitty is because the people using them abuse them.
Yes there are plenty of people who don't need a car or deserve them, but there are plenty who use them appropriately.
Also someone commented on the BMW from asset forfeiture and the Mercedes from narcotics being seized cars and what should we do sell them to the pounds cheap..That statement was ridiculous, sell them to car max, they will give u a hell of a lot more than an auction hse, and you can in turn use that money to buy better equipment.
The problem on this job is entitlement and the division between the have and have nots..Non clouted people complain about the clouted ones and they are called, jealous, haters, etc.. The clouted ones complain about being bashed and they are whiny pussies. the city has us hating each other so much we fail to realize the real enemy, the fuckers who try to hurt us either physically on the street or financially from City Hall.
Anonymous said...
...but keep in mind it is all a write- off for the city, gas, upkeep etc. so it isn't the big deal that you imagine.
7/21/2009 01:21:00 AM
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I agree that the take home car stuation has been out of hand for a long time, it seems to have gotten worse lately. Personally, I have no complaint about most Exempt Rank personnel taking a car home, either because of possible call-out, or simply as a perq. It is pretty hard to justify for most others,including Tactical Lieutenants, which by the way, is probably not authorized, but merely not officially noticed.
Anyway, to the quoted comment. I wonder if the contributor has any idea of what a write-off is? Since the city pays no income taxes, it has no write offs.
Anonymous said...
As a tact lt in a bad district, I've had to
go to at least four meetings a week during my on and off hours...
Respond to major gang incidents including gang funerals during various hours
be a search warrant supervisor during various hours
Get bounced around to various districts on various shifts as an acting WC
Tact lt is a shit job and I'm glad I let it go -screw the take home car.
Now that we're talking about waste and fraud lets talk about the time due slips with blank ending times and early ducks and slip holding...
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And I bet your tact team was glad you left...because you sir, are a fucking stroke!!! I would gander a guess and say that you left tact to go work in IAD or the inspection division, just a guess.
Nobody's holding any of my slips cheesedick, and these days if you're a tact lt, you're either a straight merit hack or so low on the list. Shit, don't want the responsibilities of being a boss? Don't take the damn promotion, you're not getting any sympathy here.
"Once again the mayor has succeeded in dividing us. Thats his game, to divide and conquer. As long as we are fighting with each other we cant put up a fight against him. Remember folks, its us against him, not us fighting each other!!"
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All the merit-clout babies with take home cars, do-nothing desk jobs and other perks are not part of this "us" you speak of. The "us" and "we" are the people who work the street and give an honest day's work and risk our lives every day on the street.
"We" are united.
"We" are trying to eliminate wasteful spending.
"We" are on the same page, and you're probably just another clout hack or at least a sympthizer.
Oh, BTW...
masters masters masters masters
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Anonymous said...
The BMW was a SEIZURE by another unit, that A/F legally seized. So it's a free car--ASSET FORFEITURE.
Oh, so when you guys seized it, it came with a lifetime gas supply voucher??? Weak excuse!! SCC, this is one of the best topics you ever brought up!! Keep up the good work!!
>Also, did you know REZKO owns the pound land at 701 N. Sacramento and gets some ridiculous rent per month from the city? Hello reporters?
I don't think this is correct. Check the Assessor's mapping website to find parcels and pins, then click on the parcels to see tax status, and go to the Treasurer's site to see ownership. The lot is mapped as "531 N. Sacramento" and it seems to be exempt and owned by government.
The lot isn't really at 531 - but often, the addresses in the tax files don't correspond to physical location, but rather to the address where the tax bill goes. In this case, 531 would be the Center for Green Tech, and a parcel that was owned by the same industrial owner that owned the lot back when this was an industrial city.
It's possible the Assessor, the mappers in the tax office, or the Treasurer have made a mistake. But if you have better info, can you give a source or some better way to track it down? It would be awfully tough for any reporter to make sense of what you've written since a quick 'due diligence' search seems to contradict it. I'm not a reporter. Just someone who thought it was interesting and tried to track it down.
oh, and by the way,
The sgt's in gang enforcement don't even cars assigned to them to use at work. We have to drive around with our guys. Not a big deal if you're a worker, but ask any other unit sgt when's the last time they hit the streets with their guys? They'd be crying like bitches
OT --- BREAKING NEWS (I wish)
By Executive Order, Mayor Daley Removes Take-home Cars For Employees
July 21, 2009, 10:30 PM
The Mayor today praised the initiative of CTA President Richard Rodriquez in ending the practice of providing take-home vehicles owned by the Transit Authority. The Mayor also said that effective immediately, the use of all take-home City of Chicago vehicles will be reviewed.
Pressed further the Mayor said that we no longer need these cars since we have chosen to switch over to take-home boats. “They’re not in the boat. We’re in the boat. ... They have to come back to the boat. ... We’re asking them to get back in the boat,” he said.
Asked to comment, Police union President Mark Donahue said “It sounds to me like the mayor hit his head on the boat when he was getting in".
Further updates as they occur.
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Tommy needs a takehome car.
The seized auto has to be used in narcotics for a year before it can be sold. So much for the expensive MB. Many of high line cars sit in the garage for a year until they can be sold. State requirements.
I need a PDT and people are taking those home lol it's true.
Heck, the take home car should have " M " plates for everyone knows who they belong too. So many take-home cars and especially in the Detective Units are used for those shopping runs, dentist, pick up the kids and often enough the Boss wants a driver and takes a Detective off the street. It helps in parking, getting a car wash and the list goes on. That real police stuff.
Now that we're talking about waste and fraud lets talk about the time due slips with blank ending times and early ducks and slip holding...
U must be fucking kidding me with that statement boss. And I use that term loosely. Your guys mustve loved working for you. You sound like a stone jagoff. Im sure you are merit all the way.
Anonymous said...
I dont have a car nor do i work at 35th, but why do they have to justify to SCC why they get cars, and you WOULD take one if one was offered to you!
MOve on makes you sound petty, lets work on the bigger issues, Safety, work conditions, man power, contract...
7/21/2009 05:56:00 AM
In the past, I would agree with you. BUT, when they laid off civilians then time to make cuts and save jobs. There are priorities. Times have changed.
Hey Mr "Tact Lt" I am a Sgt and I too go to "various meetings" several times per week....I too am a supervisor on many search warrants.....I believe they re wrote that order Mr Tact Lt...YOU no longer need to be there so....that one's out the window...sorry...:( Gang funerals????? When have you EVER seen a tact Lt at a "gang funeral" or even called one about it??? I call Gang Intel or Gang Enforcement...NOT the district so the Tact Lt could respond???? That's a crock of BS sorry again.... Last but not least....You state that you have to be a W/C in various districts at "various times" what times?? there are set watches....and last I saw...like I myself...the W/C's drive their own cars and get there just fine...so who do you need a take home car again??? YOU DON'T....Just a perk that you do not need. Thanks for trying and thanks for playing!
As a tact lt in a bad district, I've had to
go to at least four meetings a week during my on and off hours...
Respond to major gang incidents including gang funerals during various hours
be a search warrant supervisor during various hours
Get bounced around to various districts on various shifts as an acting WC
Tact lt is a shit job and I'm glad I let it go -screw the take home car.
Now that we're talking about waste and fraud lets talk about the time due slips with blank ending times and early ducks and slip holding...
7/21/2009 01:54:00 AM
Hey SCC,
Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME? I thought you put a stop to these delusional fucks who think, AND FEEL THE NEED TO TELL EVERYBODY, that police officers are paid for more than what they actually do. If I work until 0300 that's what I get paid for. I have no idea who this "Tact Lieutenant" is or where he got his information.
His comments and those like them should NEVER, repeat NEVER, be published.
By the way Lu, how many hours you got on the books. Seeing as your a tact Lieutenant you probably got some whack. Let me guess your comp time is easily in the thousands and probably closer, if not into, 5figures. Yeah, I know, you stayed with your team ALL night while they finished that pinch or search warrant.
GFY!!!!!!
Here's hoping that you're at the end of your "illustrious" career.
Let's face it no one needs a take home car. If they are called out let them drive to an area and pick up a cars and go do what they have to do and than return them. These asswhole bosses make more than enough money to drive to work in their own cars, I do it everyday and they make about $40,00 more than me a year. How can they justify it when there are no cars in the districts for us to use. Remember J-Fed says "the job is earned not given" so lets dump all the brass and start over because none of there stars and bars were earned they were all given. These unit prima donna's should never be allow a car, they use these cars for everything but police work, taking kids to school and baseball game, hockey practice, shopping, part-time jobs etc.while I use my own car and gas. They can also go to an area and pick up a car to use during working hours. But than again we have dumb and dumber running the show so nothing will change.
OVER 750 TAKE HOME CARS ! ! !
This was the last official count back in 2005. It has to be even more today ! ! !
While I agree with the Original Poster and with almost every response I must come to the defense of the Cold Case Squad. The vast majority of their cases take them to prisons all over this state and the adjoining states. In addition, they are locating and interviewing victims, witnesses, and co-offender (co-defendants), who no longer reside in the city. These detectives usually walk out of their homes and the shift starts.
I would not work there if I had to drive from home to Homan Square, show my face at an unnecessary roll call, and then grab my car and drive back down to Big Water. I'd rather just go do what I have to do.
The only operator's with cars now are SGT'S
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Why do you need a take home car to answer phones?
You are 100% right, SCC. All the merit hack bosses, sergeants and detectives at Homan Square have take home squads. I don't care if they are driving forfeited vehicles, "Let the working CPD use those vehicles." What right do they have to drive a squad car back and forth to work when the working police use their own cars? Those forfeited vehicles could be used by the areas or available to districts as needed. Oh wait, we are the CPD who actually work; not the clouted S/S group who are related to aldermen. That's why we don't even have cars to use during work.
For the last time Vice doesnt have takehome cars. neither does AFU.
OFF TOPIC:
Shit in 016 getting out of control:
1. BACK-LOGS - while not a BIG issue, we are definitely seeing more back-logs than ever, due to lack of man-power.
2. DETAILS - Every weekend they pull multiple POs and a Sgt. for some bullshit yuppie street festival and have to deny time-due to a handful of POs. The tact teams are now detailed to 015 until further notice. Do we really need three POs on a bike detail with manpower the way it is?
3. DISPATCHERS - this is a citywide issue, but it's hard not to notice a level of disconnect among dispatchers due to their recent "hosing" on their contract. I can't blame them, but this puts a stress on our jobs when they are not dispatching tickets properly.
4. BULLSHIT MISSIONS - Why are 2 or 3 cars down every night on bullshit missions for the entire tour? I heard a dispatcher pleading for any available unit to handle a Robbery JO, when there were 2 cars down on a ROBB Mission!!! Nonsense.
5. LACK OF LEADERSHIP - It's a well known fact that our Commander has one foot out the door on his way to bigger and better things. Makes us all wonder that all of his promises yet to be fulfilled will never be delivered on.
Just the other night he had a Sgt. detail a car to a fixed-post on some gangbangers's house who was shot at. Are we really in the business of providing round-the-clock security for assholes who choose to enter a life of crime? Unreal....
6. MANPOWER - Shrinking every period. No more PPOs. No bid openings. Medical abusers galore. And if new contract includes insurance at 55yo, we're gonna lose a ton more....
That is all for now.
Now that we're talking about waste and fraud lets talk about the time due slips with blank ending times and early ducks and slip holding...7/21/2009 01:54:00 AM
Hey man it is something called morale building. One of the few things supervisors can do anymore to reward the troops.
How about a take home boat?
Great job SCC...Now if you can just get to work on removing all other perks that officers get anywhere in the city we can save this this city some real money and live happily ever after. Who needs an Inspecter General.
Seriously. Take home cars are a waste. Do what WE ALL do and drive to work in your own car. Why should others not be expected to do that? You are getting paid a whole hell of a lot more already for having to get up for an emergency. God forbid a major disaster strikes- I would have to drive MY car to it.
Take home cars are a perk. Should we in these tough times eliminate the perks first?
Od does that make toooooo much sense?
"OT a recent AP. article states crime at a 40 year low in all major U.S. citys and experts are baffled. My opinon, police nation wide are less aggressive, less arrests equals lower crime. Street/drug gangs are becoming smarter and more disiplined and way more politicaly connected. There maybe less bad guy killing bad guy today, but will that be a good thing in years to come?"
Crime rates are based on crime reported to the police. There is a lot of steps from a crime being committed to being reported.
Citizen has to decide to call the police in the first place. He may decide that since probably nothing will happen, why bother?
Or they call the police and get tired of waiting.
Also fewer police driving around to be waved down for reports.
And then there is always the D-Division factor. How much can we unfound?
All the crybabies on here trying to defend their positions make me ill. So what if its a seized car? WHO IS PAYING FOR ALL THE GAS IN THESE VEHICLES???????
You have a lot of nerve to be coming on here and defending your take-home cars by a weak-ass excuse, "Oh, the city gave one to me, should I turn it down?"
You sound like high school girls that are jealous. Get over it. Why the hell do you care if someone else gets a take home care. Be happy for them instead of being so jealous. Jealousy will get you no where but aggravated.
All this take home car shit sounds like russia before the wall came down. Privileged members of government and government service units getting perks at taxpayer (worker) expense in exchange for nothing.
GFY
Area Two Caps Lt. Davis needs his take home car cause he needs it in the event a major incident occurs, but yet two times in the past couple weeks his men been involved in shootings but where was he? Probably at the club or at home staring at his medals. Didn't even ask his guys if they were alright let alone acknowledge them. F#%* him!
Tact lt is a shit job and I'm glad I let it go -screw the take home car.
Now that we're talking about waste and fraud lets talk about the time due slips with blank ending times and early ducks and slip holding...
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-Yeah ok Lt. early ducks, holding slips!!! Yeah right! It's been a long time since I've seen that happen! (Unless you mean 10 min early ducks)
The only one that gets the real ducks and held slips is "the chubby drunk and his do nothing partner", friends of the the Sgt! You know the two guys, every district has them. Paper jumpers on the already overloaded DPW arrest or the "legit" CTTL...
Did anyone read SNEADS COLUMN today in the SCUMTIMES? Maybe if SHE WAS A JOURNALIST she would understand why we are so frustrated,and not make excuses for the UTTER INCOMPETANCE of our management.Maybe she should WORK WITH the RANK & FILE,not just condescendinly pat us on the head and coddle up to the bosses.
I THINK WERE GONNA NEED A BIGGER BOAT
Years ago all the unmarked cars had regular plates on them. Then one of the governors decided to charge the regular fee for the plates even theough they were on police cars. The city changed over to M plates for the cost. They should have just amended the law to make police cars exempt from the fees.
and then of course there's the wives who. for decades, were never made aware there IS a uniform allowance.
7/21/2009 06:09:00 AM
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It's funny you brought that up. I know some Officers who works Special Employment on their RDO's, collect their non direct deposit paychecks every month, including court OVERTIME,and NOT tell their wives.. LMFAO !!
Keep airing the dirty laundry cause this job stinks like a project hallway these days!!!! They are only mad because they can't justify their bullshit.....
all of OCD'S covert cars are seized vehicles not costing tax payers anything (just playing devils advocate) They alot of times meet at locations away from the office I can see them having take home unmarked cars also. asset forfeiture also meets at different locations
All Right already, we all know about all this nonsense, it just goes on and on. Get a clue, and realize that you work in a Political 3 ring circus, not a professional Law-Enforcement Agency. If you worked in a professional Agency, all this crap wouldn't go on, it would be Law enforcement, and service to the Taxpayers. Instead we have Shitcago, Crook County, and the State of Smel-linois. Get used to it, you don't live in a normal environment, you live here.
Really the only person in the Detective division who should get take-home vehicles are the Commander, and the Violet Crimes Lt. The rest should be pulled ASAP.
While at the pumps one morning not to long ago, I witnessed a older female 50-55 pull up in a brand new mercedes 2 door convertable. She got out and began to pump free gas into an $80,000+ car. How can it be justified to let a city employee drive around in a vehicle that costs more than any of us makes in a year. What in the Lord's name makes her so special that she warrants this kind of perk. We can't get a car with under 100,000 miles and a working computer to keep the hell hole known as area 2 under control, but this person gets to tool around in a benz all on the taxpayers dime.
I laugh every time I hear of Andy Shaw. Back in the early 80's, Jane Byrne overpromoted captains. Each Detective Area got one as an administrative captain. Area One got a guy named Gorman (Jim or John, I think).
Andy Shaw showed up one day and started being an annoying pest. Gorman threw him off the floor. I hope Captain Gorman enjoys his pension for many years to come.
Give each beat a car per watch. Put 2 partners together all the time rotate who takes the car home one partner pick the other up for work. Give each sgt, lt, and capt a take home car. the city will probably save alot of money on maint and coppers will be more inclined to take car of their car.
we all live in the city any wayit's not like people will have to drive to work from will county.
I have one more item to look into if it hasn't already been brought up. What is J-Fed paying his speakers who talk at his "Supt. Speaker Series" You can't convince me they are taking time, travel and stay out of their own pockets
Once you start giving out goodies, you have to come up with some criteria for doing so.
For take home cars, you would think it is not too tough. Decide what people just could not do their job unless they could get in a car and drive directly to where they needed to be with their gear.
K9 (and maybe SWAT) is about it.
I bet if you look closely, there are thousands of city sponsored take home cars.
Get rid of them all, and give them a bus pass. If the bus is good enough for Joe Citizen, it is good enough for city workers.
"O'Keefe needs a take home car in the event he needs to kiss the mayor's ass."
LOL
Best response so far!
Anyone offered a take-home car by Who, the Alder-whores, the politically connected pay-to-play[ers], the I owe a favor so I'll use my clout to get my buddy a take-home car to repay him/her, [not with my money of course, with the Taxpayers] etc,etc;. Yeah, it's all on the up and up here in Shit-cago.......
Typical Liberal Socialist Elite bullshit, the common peaon should sacrifice, but not us, cause we're "Special".
Anonymous said...
i would guess the bmw was a FORFEITED car that ASSET FORFEITURE uses
come on use your brain a little
7/21/2009 07:01:00 AM
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Several of you miss the point: The BMW is an assest, a depreciating assest. Its use is to ferry a clout baby around and to impress the neighbors with. The car should be sold before it drops any more in value. If the driver truly NEEDS a car, I'm sure there is a seized Pinto around somewhere.
That Beemr and other high end vehicles that some units drive are siezed vehicles.......
7/21/2009 03:56:00 AM
That can be sold and cash can go to pay for our contract. How about gas, insurance (self insured) and maintenance.
I dont have a car nor do i work at 35th, but why do they have to justify to SCC why they get cars, and you WOULD take one if one was offered to you!
No one has to justify anything to SCC.
But they damn well have to justify it to the taxpayers who are being forced to fund this crap through increased taxes and reduced services.
And by coincidence, we happen to be one of those.
Start justifying it motherfucker.
Suggestion to the IRRELEVANT SNEED and her column,why don't you return to being a JOURNALIST and work WITH us and not be the mouthpiece for a corrupt machine.Don't you have an ounce of scruples!
Start justifying it motherfucker.
Nice ! your way of words and art of discussion are second to none
Whether the BMW was confiscated or not, the taxpayers are still on the hook for the maintenance of the vehicle, gas and whatever else it takes to keep those wheels on the street.
---not a cop
>>>Did you know that Asset Forfeiture has a take home Beemer?<<<
I stopped reading right there...I dare say that Beemer probably belonged to a drug dealer, or other criminal mastermind...and this was an ASSEST THAT WAS FORFEITED.
Sounds like they have a great incentive program. Maybe what they should do is if the BEAT COPS get a nice ride forfeited for the department, it's THE BEAT COPS TAKE HOME CAR FOR A YEAR. I have a suspect blue Hummer in mind I have seen in my neighborhood.
KUDOS TO YOU SCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Couldnt have said it better myself!! from a beat pushing, pool car driving, no clout, blue shirt!
Do any of you see what is happening? You are all turning on each other by bashing people with take home cars and clout. The city wants this, they want us to turn against each other so that we do not stick together in unity. We can all go on forever about all of the useless positions and waste on this job but that does not mean we can't all stick together. Let's fight for what we have, fight for more, and give up nothing. The city is poor because of corruption and it is mismanaged not because of take home cars and early ducks and useless positions. Keep what we have and try to get more!
7/21/2009 10:50:00 AM
Ok, Jackie.
You sound like high school girls that are jealous. Get over it. Why the hell do you care if someone else gets a take home care. Be happy for them instead of being so jealous. Jealousy will get you no where but aggravated.
7/21/2009 12:42:00 PM
Getting nervous, asswipe? Yep, people are looking at what YOU got and questioning it. Fuck you. Deal with it.
While the abuse of taxpayer-funded cars is to be condemned, it pales in comparison to the injustice which is scheduled to occur two weeks from tomorrow.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
On Thursday, August 6, Bill Cozzi must report to the Oakdale Federal Correctional Center in the swamps umpteen miles from Buttfuck, Louisiana
Any veteran street cop has seen scores of actual "tune-ups" (not Cozzi patty-cake) where some obnoxious mutt is acting the fool, like causing utter physical chaos in a hospital E-R.
Hospital staff would not sedate him with thorazine. So after cuffing the able-bodied drunk to the closest thing--a wheelchair--Bill Cozzi gives the spitting, shouting asshole a few well-deserved wacks, changing his disruptive behavior into innocuous giggles and subdued laughter. Big fuckin' deal! Camera or no camera.
No "Hannibal Lecter" masks were to be found. The lock-up wouldn't take him because he had to be treated for a minor laceration after jumping on his bitch. Cozzi caused no injury and the "patient" never even complained. Yet, Cozzi paid dearly and received a Draconian TWO year suspension without pay.
Enter a treacherous, sociopathic cocksucker with the compassion of a saguaro cactus and suffering from the "new broom syndrome". He was "shocked" by such misconduct and decided that he wanted to make a Federal case out of poor Bill Cozzi as a sacrificial lamb to further his political agenda.
Management wants activity. Bill Cozzi's numbers carried the watch. What brought Cozzi to that hospital after the job was assigned to another car? Cozzi volunteered for the assignment, giving the original car a disregard.
Bill Cozzi should not have to spend a day in Oxford, Wisconsin let alone FORTY (40) MONTHS in some bayou shithole a thousand miles from home.
How do you fuckin' sleep at night, Jody Weis?
I would not work there if I had to drive from home to Homan Square, show my face at an unnecessary roll call, and then grab my car and drive back down to Big Water. I'd rather just go do what I have to do.
Oh please, Cold Case, you're breaking my heart. I drive to the area every day and attend an unnecessary roll call. And I actually clear cases with arrests. I'm not the Exceptionally Cleared specialist with a take home car.
Please SCC look into why the "NEW President of the Women's Tactical Association" Karen B. needs an unmarked take home car to schedule Paul Howe and that goof ball from ITOA Jeff Chudwin classes on E-Learning? 6 years on the job, 1 and a half in the academy and another 1 and a half in the policy group. The rest working lock up in 025. You Rock J-Fed. Appearently you like blonds, judging by Karen and your new LT. for News Affairs and the Blog 501.
RE uniform allowance:
The uniform allowance is peanuts compared to the outlandish costs of blue shirts, pants, sweaters, jackets, etc. We won't even get into all the leather accessories.
Do any of you see what is happening? You are all turning on each other by bashing people with take home cars and clout. The city wants this, they want us to turn against each other so that we do not stick together in unity. We can all go on forever about all of the useless positions and waste on this job but that does not mean we can't all stick together. Let's fight for what we have, fight for more, and give up nothing. The city is poor because of corruption and it is mismanaged not because of take home cars and early ducks and useless positions. Keep what we have and try to get more!
7/21/2009 10:50:00 AM
Hmmmm. I think this is ALL about take home cars. It's about "special people" and their perks that divides your department. When the "special people" are no longer "special." When "special" people lose what are essentially bribes to not rock the "boat" maybe they will start thinking like the police again and start focusing on what is best for EVERYONE, not just some "special" people.
---not a cop
Anonymous said...
The BMW was a SEIZURE by another unit, that A/F legally seized. So it's a free car--ASSET FORFEITURE.
Oh, so when you guys seized it, it came with a lifetime gas supply voucher??? Weak excuse!! SCC, this is one of the best topics you ever brought up!! Keep up the good work!!
7/21/2009 11:22:00 AM
How about plates,insurance and repairs. Who pays? The tax payers( you and I).
ryan taking over 022 tact- u guys better get the fuck out now cause he is a fucking company man- once bragged when working the courts that he saved the department/city millions of dollars by fucking p.o.'s out of court time.
So the beemer was an asset forfeited, and that means someone in that unit gets to use it? Sell the damn car and buy the necessary equipment for the working police!!! And why am I paying for the priveleged to gas up and take their kids to school and to run their errands? They already make alot more than me, and why am I, as a taxpayer, paying for their vehicle insurance on that really nice perk???
That Beemr and other high end vehicles that some units drive are siezed vehicles.......
And those "siezed" vehicles could be put to better use in the districts. Tact teams would love them.
all of OCD'S covert cars are seized vehicles not costing tax payers anything (just playing devils advocate) They alot of times meet at locations away from the office I can see them having take home unmarked cars also. asset forfeiture also meets at different locations
Oh really. A seized vehicle doesn't use gas or oil. It doesn't need parts. It's not insured. Asset forfeiture can't pick up a vehicle at Homan Square and meet somewhere else. Spare me!
This is what i don't understand. I see Postal cars w/ no plates at all. A. why do marked cars need plates and do we pay for those?
The post office LOST there plates in the mail....or someone dumped them under a porch..... hahahhaha
Anonymous said...
Do any of you see what is happening? You are all turning on each other by bashing people with take home cars and clout. The city wants this, they want us to turn against each other so that we do not stick together in unity. . . .
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If you really want unity, renounce your take-home car.
You sound like high school girls that are jealous. Get over it. Why the hell do you care if someone else gets a take home care. Be happy for them instead of being so jealous. Jealousy will get you no where but aggravated.
Well, I used to be a high school girl and I'm not jealous. I'm disgusted. We don't even have decent cars to use in the Area. And the P.O.'S are driving garbage on wheels in the districts. How can you justify administrative personnel using squad cars or "forfeited" cars 24/7???? This is not jealousy, it's about what's right for the actual "working police".
They can't force you to be a tact Lt so most would quit.
Is there no reverse seniority in tact lts?
Yeah, Im gonna go out on a limb and say the
"Beamer" was a forfeited asset. Come on SCC, that was weak.
7/21/2009 01:27:00 AM
Yeah but is the gas a forfeited assey. ???????
take home cars at 35th are reserved for those who play nice with ads ms! if u don't got that guy you dont got nuthin. what a crock of crap!
Over the MANY years of the MANY of us ex-aggressive workers INVENTORYING the many ASSETS of DUDE and the shitheads ($$CASH$$ included ...big money too...)
It leaves one to wonder:
One would have to think that much of that money could have bolstered the department better than putting the excess cash toward the USELESS "career" building IDEAS for its use for God knows who...like take the CAMERAS flashing all over the City for instance.
These flashing cameras (most usually dummies too) are largely INOPERABLE or unmanned or the picture/images are too hard to identify. Capturing the perfect image IS necessary to even win a case in court anyway...GOOD LIUCK. So a BIG WASTE of money!
Is CPD allowed to request the the allocation of these funds? Unsure but MAYBE someone with some intelligence can put it to better use than toward a "smoke and mirror" or a wasted "attempt to trick the DOGS" way of preventing criminal activity ...which doesn't or didn't work mind you....But it aggravates taxpayers, it now wastes manpower to WATCH at OEMC and realistically all they are good for is reminding anyone from outside of that "BAD" neighborhood that this area is unsafe for you to be in!
Just cause it works or worked in merry ol' England where there are no GUNS and the pick pockets run crazy...doesn't mean it will work in this "shots fired" gang bangin' town of ours!
Gee I am jealous I didn't capitalize on the stupidity of Daley or the research and development dipshits and whoever else BOUGHT into this idea! I'd be an ADS by now.... driving a take home City car day and dreaming about my next "great idea" to fool the masses while using City gas and planning on going to Mexico for a vacation....while the rest of the blueshirts struggle to make mortgage and bills!
Weis didn't have to do it -- he's non-union and has a contract.
• • Translation: So Sneed mended her hem, so you adjust your shorts.
GAME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OT: HERE WE GO AGAIN.........
Convicted man says confession coerced
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A man serving a life sentence for murder, kidnapping and sexual assault is mounting a new fight to prove his innocence, insisting a confession he gave to police was false and came after he was tortured by a notorious police unit, his legal team said today.
Michael Tillman, now 43, was convicted in 1986 in the murder and rape of 42-year-old mail clerk Betty Howard. However, Tillman's legal team said the main piece of evidence against him -- his confession -- came following a violent interrogation by a team of detectives working under disgraced former Chicago Police Cmdr. Jon Burge.
RE: TAKE HOME CARS FOR TACT LT.'s!
Wait a minute people I DESERVE and EARNED the right for that CAR!
I sucked ass working inside for many years, not going to court so I can STUDY, STUDY and STUDY while working inside only to capitalize on the test because I ACED it while all you "workers" decided to push beat cars and go to court etc.
I was able to get into the top 200 call it what you want but I scored better than you! NOT MERIT!
So now that I EARNED my take home car and was able to get a cushy northside district as my domain don't throw the rocks at me because I am like Northside and all of you want A TEST TAKING ACE! I got it I earned it so give me the DAMN car!
When you you do better than me on the test than you can have or get my spot until then I achieved it I took the tests and I made Tact Lt. due to my spotless (no CR's) record. My test scores show I deserved it and that is FAIR and I can be trusted by not having a bad background like many of you "aggressive home invaders"!
So piss off and shove it!
Northside LT.
"Hmmmm. I think this is ALL about take home cars. It's about "special people" and their perks that divides your department. When the "special people" are no longer "special." When "special" people lose what are essentially bribes to not rock the "boat" maybe they will start thinking like the police again and start focusing on what is best for EVERYONE, not just some "special" people.
---not a cop
7/21/2009 05:42:00 PM"
RIGHT THE FUCK ON, WELL SAID!!!
"Now that we're talking about waste and fraud lets talk about the time due slips with blank ending times and early ducks and slip holding"
PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN'T THROW STONES, COMPANYBITCH!!
So the beemer was an asset forfeited, and that means someone in that unit gets to use it? Sell the damn car and buy the necessary equipment for the working police!!! And why am I paying for the priveleged to gas up and take their kids to school and to run their errands? They already make alot more than me, and why am I, as a taxpayer, paying for their vehicle insurance on that really nice perk???
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uhm?? isn't the city self insured?
I totaly agree with you on Bill Cozzi, Northside. It clear that JFraud wanted to make an example of him.
Why do they want to send Cozzi so far rather than Wisconsin. He should not go to prison anyplace. Louisana only proves that the feds are twisting the knife on a broken man.
I respect you because you stand up for what is right. I wish I could of worked for you. WEISel is a scumbag.
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The biggest waste of take home car is the asset forfieture unit, in the event they would be called out at night, put those loafers on three shifts per day.
7/20/2009 12:30:00 PM
LOL!!!
The LT. of Asset Forfeiture (Lt. M.S.) drives a new covert 7 series BMW! She has never been called out to anything except lunch with Peterson or her pal Bea Cuella. Word is she will have her gold star soon and downgrade from the BMW to a black crown vic.
7/20/2009 10:43:00 PM
When Maloney was LT. at assett forf., they sure didn't treat him to a BMW. They suddenly downsized him and sent him to A4. Like magic, they needed someone all of the sudden and then this female LT. gets it?? Crazy!
he probably got dumped b/c they didn't want to show how the pension board LT got it made.
I dont have a car nor do i work at 35th, but why do they have to justify to SCC why they get cars, and you WOULD take one if one was offered to you!
No one has to justify anything to SCC.
But they damn well have to justify it to the taxpayers who are being forced to fund this crap through increased taxes and reduced services.
And by coincidence, we happen to be one of those.
Start justifying it motherfucker.
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I didn't write the first comment but there are alot more things that I as a tax payer would rather have justified motherfucker!
Aldermen get 5% plus a budget
Sup is getting over $300,000 a year
Why are there 10 brand new Tahoes at area 1 that are not on the street
Why arent carbines in the district being put on the street.
and so on who give a shit about take home cars
Hey Lt. holding slips and early ducks are given in exchange for us doing proactive policing, including but not limited to creatively articulating probable cause.
F you, take my slip and I just cut my work load by 70 prercent.
Now U know how it works J-Fed? Know you know why everybody is getting shot you f'n rat.
Since you didn't have the stones to post it the first time: Who is "whining" more, the Haves or the Have-Nots?
Pretty clear...
hey scc we left out the merit heroes at fugitive apprehension, you know the assignment for the 19th ward royalty and flunkies, just like the 19th warders in the cold case squad.
I think OCD cars are all paid for from 1505 (drug) money. It can't be used on anything else and if you don't spend it, you don't get it when the next budget is done.
Kinda sucks, but since it's a pool of money divided by the entire state, if we spend less, we get less of the slice of the pie at budget time.
REMEMBER COZZI
Actually, there are 3 beemers in service that were seized from dope dealers.
A free car seized from a dope dealer is cheaper than a leased car.
Let's get rid of all the leased and seized cars. Let's give up all our perks and see what the city gives us in return. NEWS FLASH: We will get nothing in return and the city will keep taking as always. Wake up people.
Asset Forfeiture auctions seized and forfeited vehicles multiple times a year.
Thank you for my city leased low mileage like new Range Rover !! I love this job !!!!
OLD TIMER SAID:
Hey TACT LT. crying about take home car because of all the off duty on duty B/S you get the same pay being a Field LT. with less B/S
problem solved.
Anonymous said...
You sound like high school girls that are jealous. Get over it. Why the hell do you care if someone else gets a take home care. Be happy for them instead of being so jealous. Jealousy will get you no where but aggravated.
7/21/2009 12:42:00 PM
Be happy for young clout heavy asswipes getting a take home car for secretarial work? Sgts that do paperwork with a take hime car? maybe I should buy them lunch? WTF!
Anonymous said...
Suggestion to the IRRELEVANT SNEED and her column,why don't you return to being a JOURNALIST and work WITH us and not be the mouthpiece for a corrupt machine.Don't you have an ounce of scruples!
7/21/2009 04:28:00 PM
Sneed is a two-bit gossip columnist who is employed by a cheesy tabloid. Calling her a journalist is an insult to the memory of the late Walter Cronkite.
Who cares who gets what car. I have a five minute drive to work!
Never give up anything you get....that means holiday pay, furlough days, $$ and if you're lucky, a take home car.
No whining
It's possible the Assessor, the mappers in the tax office, or the Treasurer have made a mistake. But if you have better info, can you give a source or some better way to track it down? It would be awfully tough for any reporter to make sense of what you've written since a quick 'due diligence' search seems to contradict it. I'm not a reporter. Just someone who thought it was interesting and tried to track it down.
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That land has a long history behind it. I wasn't really paying much attention when this was told to me, because it was before OBAMA/REZKO connection happened. Would not surprise me if it's hidden behind someone else. Will post more if I can track it down.
Pleae tell me your embellishing when you tell us Karen B is President of the Womens Tactical Association and that she gets a take home car. Please. This broad would'nt know a bad guy if she saw someone walking down the street masked, in a black and white striped one piece suit with a pillow case containing jewelry slung over his shoulder. Please tell me your making this up. Please.
Our illustrious HBT Team is now getting take home cars. 18 have been put aside for them to be picked up next week. When is enough enough.
The city seizes a car for dope. The car is actually owned by the person with the dope or it is off a wire-something tangible to tie the car to the dope.
After the seizure, it takes a few months and sometimes much longer for the car to clear and actually given the police department. Then , by State of Illinois, the car has to be used in narcotics related investigations for one year before it can be sold.
So, for all of you know it alls, questions?
Do you pay for decent storage? Store it at a pound and it will be worthless in a week? Store it and then use it for buys?
Vehicles belonging to the United States Government do not need plates.
7/21/2009 10:02:00 AM
Oh really? Why do Recruiters have GVT plates on their cars then?
Why do the DEA or FBI or other agencies up at O'Hare have GVT plates on them then?
Simple Fact is, The Post Office got Tacit permission to operate without Plates due to the fact that their drivers were being Ticketed for Parking like the morons that some of them are.
And a vast percentage of USPS Vehicles have had the Required Visible VIN number plate Pulled off by the Motor Pool mechanics.
ALL Vehicles are required to have Some Sort of Plate issued by the State or Government.
As for a Car with Passenger Plates....are they driving a Pickup? A Van? An actual Truck?
No? Cool...they can't have a B Truck or D/H/F truck plate then....and I don't see the City shelling out the cash to the state for PML or FFM or DOM or Etc special plates.
If you are a Badge...please...Read up on Vehicle Code....your sadly lacking in proper knowledge...
Take away commander cars. When do they "do" anything? Responding to a scene after a crime has occurred and is secured doesn't warrant a take home car it warrants a personal vehicle. Same goes for most of these take home cars.
I work in 004 and haven't seen Carter do anything that warrants his take home car.
If he works late the rest of us don't?
Anonymous said...
Give each beat a car per watch. Put 2 partners together all the time rotate who takes the car home one partner pick the other up for work. Give each sgt, lt, and capt a take home car. the city will probably save alot of money on maint and coppers will be more inclined to take car of their car.
we all live in the city any wayit's not like people will have to drive to work from will county.
Kind of like the state Police?
It would be sort of a perk for the Patrolman.
In the Marine Unit I heard there are two take home boats.
If you want them to have cars, give them the lease deal and have them pay for their own gas. That in itself would save lots of dough...
Although the lease deal still costs the city about 6-800 per month, the 150-200 paid by the user offsets it a little, plus the gas... that is a winner for the city, they could reduce their fleet quite a bit. Maybe Picardi could actually handle it then LOL , but he should lease a car too...
Nice one SCC.. Right on!!!
Two sides to every story and your taking mainly one side of it. I'm not saying there is no waste but let me ask you this. If the city does not come up with the expenses for the vehicles and offered to us 'working PO's just like you and everyone else, should we refuse this one incentive?
The other question is:
in your opinion and from all the comments, what exempts should be allowed to drive take home vehicles?
Can you please explain what each exempt's role is? And how the vehicles are used?
It seems to be that on this blog, it's a blind leading a blind!!! I am a working PO; don't have shit to take home my own vehicle. Leave us working PO's alone and concentrate on the main issues that ALL of us are facing..
Stop hating each other and why this PO has this and I don't. Not everyone on this job is clout connected!!!
Please, concentrate on the bigger picture for us,
wastefull spending..hell, start with the stimulus package then...,
I keep reading that furlough days are coming.Hey, I'm on board, as long as we all take them the same day.
Maybe the Beemer belonged to some guy getting a BJ! Why does it have to be some big Drug dealers car and why is that OK then? Its all about "ME" isn't that really what's it all about?
Bill Cozzi should not have to spend a day in Oxford, Wisconsin let alone FORTY (40) MONTHS in some bayou shithole a thousand miles from home.
How do you fuckin' sleep at night, Jody Weis?
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Well, said. I just had to repeat your words.
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