Another Dispatching Flub?
From a dispatcher at 911:
- Dispatcher on zone 6 doesn't give out a 10-1. Two 10-1 events come across the board and her partner can be heard loudly and urgently telling her to get out the 10-1 event. Dispatcher refuses so the secondary does what she is supposed to do and dispatches the job. The primary dispatcher who failed to dispatch the job is the sister yes I said the sister of the guy who failed to dispatch the infamous 10-1 last month. Guess stupidity runs in the family. Best part is that nothing happened to the primary who failed to dispatch the 10-1 in a timely manner but a supervisor was seen giving papers to the secondary who thought quickly and gave out the job (I didn't see the papers but am told it was a reprimand). Watch your back out there guys and girls because while most of us up here at OEMC want you to make it home, some of us just aren't cut out for this job.
And as was told to us, they have family on the job? One sleeps through a 10-1, the other refuses to put it out? And the dispatcher who took charge and got the job done gets a reprimand?
Hellooooooo? J-Fed? Ray? WTF?
Hellooooooo? J-Fed? Ray? WTF?
Labels: 911
posted by SCC at 8:21 AM
151 Comments:
That's what happens when you hire police haters for a former police job.
With this kind of incompetence, you would think J-Fed was still in charge of OEMC.
"No good deed goes unpunished"....After all, you can't have someone showing any initiative here, that could be dangerous to the status quo, and it makes all the "humps" look bad.....
Our dispatcher on zone 12 talks like he has shit in his mouth most of the time. Coppers are asking him to repeat what he just said. And your better off trying to understand charlie browns teacher. I believe he is a fill in. Very unsafe. On the other hand G + L do an outstanding job on z-12 while on the 3rd watch, Have to give them a Kudos!!
OT: What ever happened to the white shirt in that infamous video from Pittsburgh? That's right nothing happened to Frank G. If that was a blue shirt we would be at 311 in a heartbeat. SCC please start a post on the different disciplinary procedures for bosses and blueshirts. WE just want to know.
Mommy must be proud of these two..........
Somebody better do something quick!! We know they sent Police officers back to 911 to assist, hey guys if you're reading this "make some noise" let the bosses up there know that this is unacceptable!! Come on Vicky I know you can say something so do it!! Geez who is their "police" family because someone better say something to them right away.
what is there fuckin name..
put it out.. I will make sure they will be taking orders at burger king
Where do they find these people? Do they go out of their way to find morons, or is it just the luck of the draw?
A big THANK YOU to the secondary who stepped in. How in hell you got a reprimand is beyond fathoming.
Let's promote the primary since she is so talented at fucking things up.
Its amazing how certain people are protected until the public outcry becomes so great thay cannot ignore it.
Why has the city not taken corrective action on this connected family??
Where are the newspapers now?
Some of the dispatchers don't like 5-0 and will slow play the hot calls on purpose. We have a dispatcher on our zone who plays favorites, will hold down a beat car and give out their jobs to other beats. She will message a car to go down for lunch, and then immediately give a dead body on that beat to another beat car one minute later. Transparent.
Ever notice a hot job will come out and they will mumble and jumble for a back up, rather than immediately give out the address so you can at least ride to it? They give out the Cubs score before they give out the address. Dumb OEMC supervisors can't figure that out.
If the dispatcher knows your first name and gives it out on the air, something is wrong. You've been playing reindeer games, Officer Freindly.
Wow.... This is dangerous... I wonder who the family is....
WHERE IS OUR UNION ON THIS???????
SILENCE? COME ON, GUYS! WHY WOULD YOU HIDE YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND ON AN INCIDENT LIKE THIS WITH SUCH OBVIOUS IMPORTANCE TO YOUR MEMBERSHIP???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
COME ON MARK! SHOW US WHY WE VOTED FOR YOU. OR IS IT JUST THE ELECTION AND PAYCHECK PART THAT'S IMPORTANT AND NOT THE JOB AFTERWARDS?
does anyone get the feeling that no one cares about us. even our own dispatchers, of course not all of them, but for crying out loud. please oh please the dispatchers that do care, please keep a check on those who don't. our lives depend on you guys, please don't make my wife raise our children alone.
hey orozco you failed to report the tuition for your kid that you cheated on,now you FAIL TO FIRE THAT ASSHOLES THAT COULD COST A P.O. HIS/HER LIFE! RAY YOU GOT DEMENTIA YOU CROOK,A BIG FAT FIRE COMMISSIONER PENSION+ THIS CAKE WALK JOB WHAT A CLOWN RETIRE ALREADY GOOF!
From an 008 district P.O. I was off so I don't know who the dispatchers were or the circumstances regarding the 10-1.
The SECONDARY DISPATCHER deserves a fucking medal!!!!!! and a stuffed christmas envelope and roses..... The only thing I can say is THANK YOU VERY MUCH. You did the right thing, don't look back. From a P.O. pushing a beat car, we need people who care, THANKS FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING.
Are these dispatchers political hacks of Trotters regime?
Ahhh.....what's the big deal??? NOT giving out a 10-1 on what i believe is the busiest fucking zone in the city!! 007 and 008 constantly have multiple foot chases and people shot at the same time!! So again.....what's the big deal?? I guess if you have some clout and either sleep thru a 10-1 or say "you know what, today i'm not going to gice out any 10-1's then you can still keep your job!!
This city really does blow!!! I sure as hell know that KM on zone 6 would never pull that shit!! The dispatchers that were on zone6 10 years ago were some of the best...but wait now they're not there any longer. Fucking pay the best and kepp them on the zone.
OT
Alderman Suggests Cutting Police and Firefighter Wages
["Alderman" Ed] Smith is suggesting that it's time for police officers and firefighters to take wage cuts like everybody else who works for the city
$$$$$$$$
Everyone BUT HIMSELF that is!
FU Mr. 6%
MASTERS
Cant someone get these morons out of OEMC before they get someone killed ?
I remember the change in service when the CC Room went from sworn to civilian personnel.
Maybe we need to offer more spots to good officers nearing retirement. I would hope that a police officer would do a better job at sending help in a 10-1 situation.
When was this? I was listening to zone 6 and didnt hear that part. There were units that got into shit but didn't call 10-1 and the other unit did then screamed it wasn't a 10-1.
During which watch did this occur? On what date? Initials?
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Daley want to privatize WATER.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/Daley-proposes-privatized-water-meters65754982.html
Some one has to stop this maniac.
At this point, shit-can the brother, sister and any other of the family members working. I guess "dumb" is genetic!
Scary.
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Is there anyone out there who can help answer this question?
If the city owes a city worker, comp time, forced unpaid holidays, unpaid furlough days which looks like it's soon going to be affecting cpd and cfd, can the city deduct our taxes from the money they owe us? Water bill, prop tax, city stickers etc,, is there someway to tell them, take it from the money you owe me?
Thank you in advance for any imput.
ps thank you scc for your blog :)
was it stupidity or anti police
So what really happened A dispatcher does not give out a 10-1, the back up does and the backup gets suspended There has to be more to the story
Years ago there were no 10-1's Cops could handle themselves, but now the standards are down and cops are afraid.
Remember Warriors...they have your back.
All talk..that's all it is.
The inmates are truly running the asylum
All of you, every last one of you, should protest the reprimand of the 2nd dispatcher.
Name the POS dispatcher please.
Hey policy group. Pass this on to Fed and inform him that the radio is our lifeline. I know that you will research this claim because of the lack of wheel time for all of you, but it's true.
FOP, see above statement. Sounds like an unsafe work enviornment.
Which Watch??? The First Watch dispatchers that regularly work Zone 6 are the best, Karen, Mike, Jess and Laura. If this did happen during First Watch it was not one of them, guareented! Anyone that works 007 and 008 know this. Common sense is not that common.
Are there any sergeants out there?
Sergeants have access to jobs that are on the board and not dispatched. They can easily see if there was any delay in the 10-1 dispatch.
As much as most of them don't like it, SERGEANTS are the supervisors on the street. Maybe the zone 6 sgt's should stop trying to do a PO's job and do the job they're supposed to do.
Thanks to ODPO Kenny from the 005th district who stopped and helped me change a tire this morning (22 Oct) near 111th and the I-57 exit. The weather was shitty, I had two small children in the car, and my jack was broke. The ODPO made notice of my FOP sticker and stopped to lend a hand. I truly appreciate the kind gesture, Kenny, and will be forever proud to call you a brother.
did this suddenly turn into "lets talk Chi Town 911" ? I noticed that one of the Dispatcher sites CLOSED down because 'they were offended' at the comments being left.
Hey no surprise that the dispatcher 'refused' to give out the call. Lazy and WORTHLESS and POLITICALLY CONNECTED. Wait a minute....what doyou mean REFUSED to give out a 10-1? I reviewed your SOP and your contract and NO WHERE in EITHER document does it state that you have the right,option or choice to REFUSE to give a job out much less a 10-1.
Enough is enough already. We,(THE POLICE,you know the guys out here in the field WORKING and DEPENDING on you to competently dispatch)need to PROTEST,petition and complain until BOTH of these WORTHLESS SHIFTLESS TRIFFLIN HUMPS are F I R E D. The "gee Im hooked up I can do what the fuck I want" attitude STOPS HERE AND NOW. Once was barely tolerable,but again in such a short time span? By a relative of the first POS? Not a chance in hell THATS gonna slide. NAME HER. If you cant/wont/are unwilling to NAME HER,or HIM for that matter then please do us all a favor and go back to your "911 blog" and yap there.Stirring rumor for the sake of doing so is crazy, so if you cant NAME THE PEOPLE INVOLVED then just save your "effort" and stop wasting OUR time. Should you however have the nuts to NAME THESE PEOPLE, I can PROMISE you that some sort of Legal Action(S) can (and will) be brought against them.
Sister? No nepotism at OEMC huh?
Did this happen on 1st watch?
This kind of nonsense would never have happened when police officers were the dispatchers, like it was 15+ years ago. Nothing was more comforting than knowing that a seasoned police officer was behind the mic. It was like having a 3rd partner who always had your back.
I remember Stan "the man" Nowinski on Zone 10, who not only knew where you were when you were going in a foot chase, he knew all the hiding spots where the offender was running to and was almost always right! That's because he actually worked the west side before he became a dispatcher on the zone. He also had a great sense of humor and knew how "shit can" stupid jobs like the one's the present dispatchers are forced to give out these days.
Sure, there's some very good dispatchers at OEMC, but they're few and far between.
I'll never forget "Stan's Wild Kingdom" and the man who wore cowboy boots (while in uniform) at his console.
Those were the best days ever on this job and unfortunately they're long gone, never to return.
These people are putting us in danger! Why aren't their supervisors disciplining them?
What is going on here? Is there no accountability for civilians like there is accountability for P.O.'S?
If not, then maybe we need to go back to sworn officers manning these dispatch jobs...
I really wish the dispatchers at oemc would blog about whats happening on the operations floor as it relates to us, rather than blog about stupid police related issues. We have serious union issues to discuss, but I guess you'd rather gain friends with the police officers by dropping a dime on a fellow dispatcher. You people disgust me!
File one of those ghetto lawsuits. Sue the city.and get paid.hit the city where it hurts
it just goes to show you that working people are always getting screwed for doing the right thing.......
when did that supposedly happen???
Is the supervisor that gave the reprimand the father of the other two idiots? That would complete the pattern...
OFF TOPIC" HOW COME YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR PARKING IN A DEPT. VEH AT JUVY COURT AND NOT AT ANY OTHER COOK COUNTY PARKING LOT , OR IS THIS THE BEGINNING OF IT.
Has anyone else heard that former superintendent Richard Breczak is representing that shitbird that was shot after the chase on 90 at the elgin Tollbooth? Talk about selling your soul to the devil richie.
Was this from the 63rd/oakpark thing last night?
OT: Let's see. Dirctor of R&D-salary over 140,000 a year-USELESS. Cmdr R&D over 140,000 a year-USELESS. Cmdr. of Preventive Programs over 140, 000-USELESS. A Distict Mgr.(?) in Preventive Prorams supervising one cadet-83,000 dollars a year-TOTALLY USELESS. Over half a million dollars on totally USELESS personnel. Hello Shortshanks.
The second dispatch should be commended- not reprimanded. Maybe the press trolls that hang out here looking for juicy gossip can jump on this. Get these two idiots off the job and reassign them to the nuclear fission branch of city government. It is so true- if you have enough clout- nobody has the balls to question you. Can't wait to get out of this shithole.
Its good to see that the 3rd dist has another 40, yes 40 openings today.
A big thanks to the dispatcher who gave up this story. Oh and a BIGGER thanks to the dispatcher that did they're job!! This is just another reason why I hate people. It doesn't matter what race, sex, orientation, gang, etc., etc., it is simply who is a piece of shit and who does the right thing.
"Me? I'm that guy that does his job!, You must be the other guy!"
(OT) schools raise our taxes and now another plub job, luberman just bad for shitcago!http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/10/chicago-schools-to-create-medical-officer-post.html
Saw Maggie buying a new pair of pants for her husband at Carsons. Wanted 44" waist extra extra short. She was told to go to the boys section. SHORTSHANKS YOU ROCK.
This dispatcher should be meritoriously promoted to DIRECTOR of OEMC... due to her distinguished act of bravery!
Today a female in 006 responds to a Burglary In Progress call. She arrives and goes to the rear and encounters a possible burglar. She immediately takes action and requires assistence. She calls on the radio "6XX...get me some cars in the rear" partially out of breath.
Dispatcher calls the next beat car he has available quietly.
She calls again. Thankfully others were listening and responded to her call for help.
The dispatcher should have asked/stated, with at least some authority that 6XX is asking for help at her location.
Instead, he asks in what appears the to be the same voice one would use to dismiss a hated realtive or someone along those lines.
We only have each other. The public and our support co-workers don't even seem to care anymore.
Years ago there were no 10-1's Cops could handle themselves, but now the standards are down and cops are afraid.
10/23/2009 12:03:00 PM
shut the fuck up. Old age is getting to you maybe the crown hat was too tight to let your brain grow. Years ago? When? 1865?
The regular day crew on zone 10 is the best. Anne, Rose and Sandy. All 3 of you are Great.
From an old timer who remembers "Stan the Man"!
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WHERE IS OUR UNION ON THIS???????
SILENCE? COME ON, GUYS! WHY WOULD YOU HIDE YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND ON AN INCIDENT LIKE THIS WITH SUCH OBVIOUS IMPORTANCE TO YOUR MEMBERSHIP???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
COME ON MARK! SHOW US WHY WE VOTED FOR YOU. OR IS IT JUST THE ELECTION AND PAYCHECK PART THAT'S IMPORTANT AND NOT THE JOB AFTERWARDS?
10/23/2009 09:59:00 AM
Shut up, Wayne.
"I really wish the dispatchers at oemc would blog about whats happening on the operations floor as it relates to us, rather than blog about stupid police related issues. We have serious union issues to discuss, but I guess you'd rather gain friends with the police officers by dropping a dime on a fellow dispatcher. You people disgust me!
10/23/2009 01:29:00 PM"
bite me.
CARLOS that used to be on zone 6, 3rd watch when I worked in 008 is the BEST dispatcher I have ever had. Guy could handle 007 and 008 like it was nothing. And knew every street, one ways, etc. Not sure if he is there now or not as i left, but I know many working coppers in 007 and 008 appreciated him
129pm, "stupid police related issues" WOW!! thats the EXACT reason you are assholes. You couldnt do what we do
Put his or her name out there so we know who it was.
As for the alderman that wants us to take a pay cut yeah as soon
as you lift the residency requirement
please post event numbers so we know its not bullshit, cause i smell a little something
IT'S FUNNY HOW QUICK PEOPLE WANT TO BLAME THE DISPATCHERS BUT LETS THINK FOR A MOMENT!!!
HOW MANY DOG ASS OFFICERS HAVE YOU SEEN GO THE OTHER WAY WHEN HELP IS NEEDED?
THE SAME CARS SHOW UP TO ALL IP CALLS!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A 10-1 TO BE DISPATCHED, IF YOUR LISTENING TO THE RADIO AND STILL CARE ABOUT YOUR FELLOW OFFICERS THEN YOU WILL RESPOND ALWAYS, EVEN IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE A 19P.....TAKE CHARGE OF YOUR OWN CAR!!! NOBODY IS GOING TO HOLD YOUR LITTLE HANDS AND TAKE YOU TO A JOB!!!! AND NO ONE IS GOING TO FAULT YOU FOR GOING TO HELP A FELLOW OFFICER!!!!
everyone gets old young man
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EVERYONE PLEASE EMAIL THAT PIECE OF CRAP ALD ED SMITH AND LET HIM KNOW WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT US TAKING A PAY CUT WHEN OUR CONTRACT IS OVER 2 YEARS EXPIRED AND HE HAD THE BALLS TO STATE THAT WHEN HE VOTED HIMSELF A RAISE!!
ehsmith@cityofchicago.org
As much as most of them don't like it, SERGEANTS are the supervisors on the street. Maybe the zone 6 sgt's should stop trying to do a PO's job and do the job they're supposed to do.
ARE YOU RETARDED??????
YOU MUST BE A HOUSE MOUSE !!!
I appreciate the extra help any day of the week!!!
The incident last night in 008 for your information numnutts ended nicely with the help of the Sgt's. As a matter of fact one of them actually found the vehicle that tried to run over the officers that quickly led to the arrest of the scumbag offender. That's a good job in my book!!! Kudos to all of the Sgt's that were involved! Thanks for your help!! Majority of us PO's appreciate Sgt's like you all.
zone 1 second watch needs 2 replace the older short lady who thinks she is god - retired or light duty who knows what it is like 2 b a p/o is what we really need
This reeks of retaliation for the disciplinary action taken against her brother. Has anyone considered a class action suit on behalf of all the field officers against this women and the city ? Slam her with a million-dollar judgement and let’s see how she likes that ! Let’s hire Fast Eddie Vrdolyak’s law firm, they are experts at getting the city to pay.
Jury awards $1.5 million in arrest of traffic supervisor
I retired in 2001. Part of the job I could no longer stand was the civilian dispatchers. they Sucked and from what I hear they still do. 6 days a week hearing Judy's voice was more than I could take. they had no knowledge of what we were doing out there. being an early unit (7am-3-pm) it was not appropriate to assign a job at 2a;55pm. I understand things have changed. Judy still gives me a headache !
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OT: Let's see. Dirctor of R&D-salary over 140,000 a year-USELESS. Cmdr R&D over 140,000 a year-USELESS. Cmdr. of Preventive Programs over 140, 000-USELESS. A Distict Mgr.(?) in Preventive Prorams supervising one cadet-83,000 dollars a year-TOTALLY USELESS. Over half a million dollars on totally USELESS personnel. Hello Shortshanks.
10/23/2009 02:53:00 PM
frank Wilson head of police finance police spec impaala and over 160K per year like we need this idiot!
"I really wish the dispatchers at oemc would blog about whats happening on the operations floor as it relates to us, rather than blog about stupid police related issues. We have serious union issues to discuss, but I guess you'd rather gain friends with the police officers by dropping a dime on a fellow dispatcher. You people disgust me!
10/23/2009 01:29:00 PM"
bite me. <---NOT EVEN WITH SOMEONE ELSE'S MOUTH MORON!! LMAO
I hereby begin a here-here, for the immediate pay-cut of 50% for Alderman Ed Smith, who is nothing but a corrupt, money thieving old Jack-ass, who looks like a goat with his shitty-looking scraggly - ass beard. Just say AAY.
Not suprising. Many of the dispatchers don't even speak proper english
I remember Stan "the man" Nowinski on Zone 10, who not only knew where you were when you were going in a foot chase, he knew all the hiding spots where the offender was running to and was almost always right! That's because he actually worked the west side before he became a dispatcher on the zone. He also had a great sense of humor and knew how "shit can" stupid jobs like the one's the present dispatchers are forced to give out these days.
Working 010 in my rookie years, Stan saved my ass on more that one occasion. God bless you my brother, take good care of those cows, hope Wisconsin is treating you well.
everyone refuse to operate on the Zone that either of these 2 losers are assigned to. Just everyone do it for safety sake, everyone in district switch to a City-Wide if the identified dispatchers are heard working on the Zone. It's not worth it to get killed because of 2 incompetent political hacks like these two.
I heard Nick from Zone 10 is back at OEMC. Maybe he will return to Zone 10 again. Anyone know if this is true? What Zone he will dispatch?
~ CPD Wife ~
Shut up, Wayne.
10/23/2009 04:44:00 PM
Not Wayne, BITCH.
Answer the questions.
how about third watch on zone four thta fills in and she wispers. a guy from 018 customary adk her to speak up the second she starts her shift . lazy
It wasn't Carlos or Tabitha on 3rd watch on zone 6, they are outstanding
do we have a union
Hey I got an Idea, you have 400 plus PO's sick or injured at 311 why not get ride of that useless unit and put PO's back at 911. People who have lived it and get it well at least some of those 311 PO's were the real deal once upon a time.
I mean how many useless units does this city have where PO's could be utilized in a more important way such as 911 operators...............Just a thought.
WHEN YOUR WRONG, JUST FILE A LAWSUIT!!
A federal jury on Friday awarded more than $1.5 million to a supervisor in the city's Traffic Management Authority after finding that four Chicago police officers conspired to violate her civil rights when she was arrested during a dispute over a parking ticket.
DAMMM!!!
Was this from the 63rd/oakpark thing last night?
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Yeah was it?
"Alderman" Ed] Smith is suggesting that it's time for police officers and firefighters to take wage cuts like everybody else who works for the city
$$$$$$$$
Everyone BUT HIMSELF that is!
FU Mr. 6%
10/23/2009 10:58:00 AM
We should lay off alderman. With Service requests available on line thers no need for them.
Better yet instead of 50 part time job alderman, make it a mandatory first job with no more than 30 hrs at a part time job allowed (like us). And since they will be full time instead of part we only need half of them.
Then new alderman from here on out should get a 401 k type plan and not a pension.
We should have never went to civilian dispatchers.
Hey, maybe the sleeping dispatcher should get a city sticker like the rest of us & better yet how about Il. plates?????
OT- Does anyone know who to contact when our badges fall apart and look like shit & do they even care or do anything about it ?
rather than blog about stupid police related issues.
Ah, these so called "stupid police related issues" are the reason you are there. You are a DISPATCHER!
Why do truck drivers for the city have adifferent tile making 90 grand a year not including overtime?
If they take a day from me I take a week for every day!
CLTV Breaking news website:
Another brain dead Cook County jury pool awards a "ghetto lottery" judgement to a TMA traffic aid over some B.S.
Another 1.5 MILLION reasons not to do shit for this city!
on zone 2 (023/019), we have nancy and mary...GREAT dispatcher. but these ladies have tons of experience!!! thank you guys!
OT: Let's see. Dirctor of R&D-salary over 140,000 a year-USELESS. Cmdr R&D over 140,000 a year-USELESS. Cmdr. of Preventive Programs over 140, 000-USELESS. A Distict Mgr.(?) in Preventive Prorams supervising one cadet-83,000 dollars a year-TOTALLY USELESS. Over half a million dollars on totally USELESS personnel. Hello Shortshanks.
10/23/2009 02:53:00 PM
WHEN YOU FACTOR IN ALL THOSE PAY-TO-PLAY KICKBACKS TO DALEY FOR ALL THE ABOVE TO GET AND KEEP THOSE SPOTS, , IT LOOKS LIKE SHORTSHANKS IS DOIN QUITE WELL, AS USUAL..
HERE is a new topic
three et's that filed a grevence for not getting their promotion to forensic investigator, they have been here a long time have been dumped back to the et section via phone orders today. Way to build officer moral right.
Years ago there were no 10-1's Cops could handle themselves, but now the standards are down and cops are afraid.
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ASSHAT, Years ago people had fear of the police. Now they will fight, point a gun at you in a heartbeat or shoot to kill you. This is not the coppers fault, it is the fault of the politicians, reverends and the department. We are now the warm fuzzy police. Don't lay hands on anyone. Our balls have been removed.
WHERE IS OUR UNION ON THIS???????
SILENCE? COME ON, GUYS! WHY WOULD YOU HIDE YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND ON AN INCIDENT LIKE THIS WITH SUCH OBVIOUS IMPORTANCE TO YOUR MEMBERSHIP???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
COME ON MARK! SHOW US WHY WE VOTED FOR YOU. OR IS IT JUST THE ELECTION AND PAYCHECK PART THAT'S IMPORTANT AND NOT THE JOB AFTERWARDS?
10/23/2009 09:59:00 AM
no its the retirement, as long as they, d-2 and above get a sweet deal, thats all that matters to him, fuck the rest of us, wheres the f-ckinh teamsters.
(ot) CAPRICE Ihttp://jalopnik.com/5373645/exclusive-the-chevy-caprice-police-car-is-backS BACK WATCH VIDEO!
IT'S FUNNY HOW QUICK PEOPLE WANT TO BLAME THE DISPATCHERS BUT LETS THINK FOR A MOMENT!!!
HOW MANY DOG ASS OFFICERS HAVE YOU SEEN GO THE OTHER WAY WHEN HELP IS NEEDED?
THE SAME CARS SHOW UP TO ALL IP CALLS!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A 10-1 TO BE DISPATCHED, IF YOUR LISTENING TO THE RADIO AND STILL CARE ABOUT YOUR FELLOW OFFICERS THEN YOU WILL RESPOND ALWAYS, EVEN IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE A 19P.....TAKE CHARGE OF YOUR OWN CAR!!! NOBODY IS GOING TO HOLD YOUR LITTLE HANDS AND TAKE YOU TO A JOB!!!! AND NO ONE IS GOING TO FAULT YOU FOR GOING TO HELP A FELLOW OFFICER!!!!
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And how are you going to know where it is? How are you supposed to go there if you have no idea it's happening? Who are you, the amazing fucking Kreskin?
This kind of nonsense would never have happened when police officers were the dispatchers, like it was 15+ years ago. Nothing was more comforting than knowing that a seasoned police officer was behind the mic. It was like having a 3rd partner who always had your back.
Amen brother. Pete Zur on Z12 was the same way. THE BEST. Would dispatch on midnights ALONE, with his eyes closed. And funnier than all hell. Knew by your voice if things were starting to get shitty and just send you help automatically. And yep, got rid of the BS jobs & blue lunch tickets too.
she then got a cr# on a copper and when she was done with that she went into the office and whined that no one was being nice to her because of her brother
WHY DOES A PAIR OF FILLMORE RANGER LOCK UP A DICK FROM AREA 4?
CUZ THEY DONT RECOGNIZE HIM!!
MAY BE HE CAN FIND THE GANG MEETING IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE?
ANYBODY KNOW WHEN U CUFF SOMEONE AND TRANSPORT A PERSON TO THE STATION IN BACK OF A SQUAD IS THAT PERSON ARRESTED?
NO COMMON SENSE!!!
I have heard one dispatcher on zone 8 who is really nasty to the officers. I think she's an ok dispatcher, but has a very bad attitude.
CARLOS that used to be on zone 6, 3rd watch when I worked in 008 is the BEST dispatcher I have ever had. Guy could handle 007 and 008 like it was nothing. And knew every street, one ways, etc. Not sure if he is there now or not as i left, but I know many working coppers in 007 and 008 appreciated him
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all Carlos does is bit@h and moan about po's Maybe when you were on z6 he wasn't as bad. You wanna know who's the best on z6 , Karen M, Tabitha, Laura Mike. You guys are the best.... These dispatchers know po's by the sound of thier voices! Thanks for being the best.
Some of the dispatchers don't like 5-0 and will slow play the hot calls on purpose. We have a dispatcher on our zone who plays favorites, will hold down a beat car and give out their jobs to other beats. She will message a car to go down for lunch, and then immediately give a dead body on that beat to another beat car one minute later. Transparent.
Ever notice a hot job will come out and they will mumble and jumble for a back up, rather than immediately give out the address so you can at least ride to it? They give out the Cubs score before they give out the address. Dumb OEMC supervisors can't figure that out.
If the dispatcher knows your first name and gives it out on the air, something is wrong. You've been playing reindeer games, Officer Freindly.
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sounds like zone 7. didnt know this was going on everywhere...
You know what I get most aggravated about? When there are people on foot chases or need help and we have to yell to the dispatchers who it is. They should know us by voice if we know each other by voice!
OT- Does anyone know who to contact when our badges fall apart and look like shit & do they even care or do anything about it ?
10/23/2009 08:25:00 PM
To the best of my knowledge BLACKINGTON still makes the Chicago Police Badge. Repairs, Im told,are done by calling Blackington Customer Service (sorry dont have the number) and Ive been told that you have to give a copy of your police ID inorder for repair to be done. Short of that,put in for a replacement. You MUST be a working copper for your button to fall apart, hope that this helps you.
f the dispatcher knows your first name and gives it out on the air, something is wrong. You've been playing reindeer games, Officer Freindly.
10/23/2009 09:42:00 AM
Sounds like the infamous Zone 8 Princess Simone......come on GUYS...........lets get this done GUYS......... annoying BARELY touches upon the feeling.
I'll never forget "Stan's Wild Kingdom" and the man who wore cowboy boots (while in uniform) at his console. ..........
and do you remember the dispatcher on days on Zone 4 with "the word of the day"? I looked forward to that and now sadly,that too has ebbed off into the abyss.
And whats with the howling jackal animal like NOISE in the background at the OEMC? Most of it sounds like a fat lady laughing and carrying on. One of my FAVORITES is when the Zone itself has an open key. I personally heard one of the female dispatchers describing how she got "it beat up" (her words) last night.She sounded like she part times on the corner of 87th and Exchange insofar as the ghetto way she sounded.That was funny as hell and when she realized she had an open key,she tried to play it off like it wasnt her. WE ALL HEARD YOU GOOF BALL. This is what protects US? God help us all.
and to Carlos and Karen of Z/6
YOU are GODS. Brilliant work behind the radio. A personal thank you to Amy on Z/2 who,a few times,didnt even ask but sent units to help me out of the shit. Good lookin out. If you are reading this I will send that picture you asked for when we talked on the phone.
Learn some of the commands
on the computer of how to look up
who is dispatching and thier log on numbers, and the command to run the log on number to see the name.
I can bet any of your squads will show you how if you ask. They codes used to be in the back of the fop book also.
The incident was from the the beginning of the month. The secondary not only covered the po's but also her own arse, as both partners are responsible for a zone. Our hack mgt team who couldn't dispatch themselves out of a paper bag are too concerned with protecting the clout heavy kin since they too are clout babies. T as always did her job and did it well. I am proud to be a co worker of hers.
Many of you will be happy to hear that 15 or so po's are going to be hitting the floor after training is complete, since alot of them did not come from the current system but from the " old room". I as a civilian look forward to working with many of them, as they taught me alot early in my career and are also good for a laugh. Good luck to them and welcome back :)
Was this from the 63rd/oakpark thing last night?
10/23/2009 02:51:00 PM
King in a hot car tried to run over some cops...nice work on 812 at 0200.....thanks!
OT- Does anyone know who to contact when our badges fall apart and look like shit & do they even care or do anything about it ?
I have been told by at least half a dozen supervisors to do something about my badge. I have been told that there is a Sgt at headquarters on the second floor that can repair them while you wait, but I can't remember his name, or if he still does it. It has been a while since I got this information. Good luck.
My brother who works for Com Ed was battered last week while working at 103rd and Forest. No car ever responded to his and Com Ed communication center two calls for help. I did a little checking and found out that no call responded because........none of the calls were dispatched. WTF!!!! Since when don't Battery in Progress calls not get dispatched, especially since more than one was received. Thank God he was not seriously injured but nonetheless he is the father of 5 and the end result could have been tragic. After his supervisor called 911, which was the 4th call made, he instructed my brother and his partner, who was up in the cherry picker when the battery took place, to leave the area and meet him at the 6th District to make a report. I swear to GOD if this is the norm down there we are all screwed, whether you are the police or just a citizen.
Are there any sergeants out there?
Sergeants have access to jobs that are on the board and not dispatched. They can easily see if there was any delay in the 10-1 dispatch.
As much as most of them don't like it, SERGEANTS are the supervisors on the street. Maybe the zone 6 sgt's should stop trying to do a PO's job and do the job they're supposed to do.
You must not be the poilce or work in a slow district. They are lucky to have 1 or 2 street Sgts for the entire watch, it's rare to have a sgt sitting in their car pulling up pending jobs. They are usually running around from point a-Z handling all the bullshit missions that this department wants done...dont blame the sgts..blame the shitty dispatchers 7 calltakers..
Two of the most competent dispatchers ever were Ernie Huerta, and a black copper Dave, on Zone 3 in the early to mid Nineties. They knew where every car was and what the car had been assigned to without needing to look at the board. Two of the best.
You know what I get most aggravated about? When there are people on foot chases or need help and we have to yell to the dispatchers who it is. They should know us by voice if we know each other by voice!
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DO YOU REALLY EXPECT US TO KNOW YOUR VOICE WHEN YOU ARE IN A FOOT CHASE....THERE ARE 100 (SLIGHT EXAGGERATION ) OUTSIDE UNITS ON THE ZONE AS WELL AS THE REGULARS. SOMETIMES MAYBE WE WILL RECOGNIZE YOUR VOICE BUT IT WOULD BE NICE FOR YOU TO SAY MAYBE 463A HE'S RUNNING SB HOLDING HIS SIDE......INSTEAD OF RUNNING SB HOLDING HIS SIDE...WE KNOW DURING A FOOT CHASE IT GETS A LIL MORE SERIOUS....I THANK THE PARTNER OR OTHER UNIT THAT IS ON THE SCENE THAT HAS THE SENSE TO LET US KNOW WHO'S RUNNING WHEN YOU WOULDN'T SAY OR COULDN'T SAY....HALF THE TIME YOU DON'T EVEN CLEAR FROM YOUR LAST TRAFFIC STOP AND GO DOWN ON SOMETHING ELSE WITHOUT LETTING US KNOW....I CANT SPEAK FOR ALL OF US BUT FOR THE MOST PART YOUR SAFETY IS # 1...
how about third watch on zone four thta fills in and she wispers. a guy from 018 customary adk her to speak up the second she starts her shift . lazy
10/23/2009 07:11:00 PM
How about buying and reading a usage book? Or not posting when you're too loaded to type?
CLTV Breaking news website:
Another brain dead Cook County jury pool awards a "ghetto lottery" judgement to a TMA traffic aid over some B.S.
Another 1.5 MILLION reasons not to do shit for this city!
10/23/2009 09:08:00 PM
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Were you there? It was the actions of a few ridiculous coppers, that were caught in their collective lies, and enhanced by poor, poor, supervision. There is a lot more here than has been released.
The coppers treated the TMS Supervisor terribly, and abused her physically, over a simple parking ticket she did not even write. My old-days sergeant would have nipped this mess in the bud right there on Michigan Avenue because he had BALLS.
Right there on the scene, he would have saved the city 1.5 million dollars in less than 15 minutes. Why? Because he was not a merit hack and could recognize "Coppers Behaving Badly" in a heartbeat.
If the coppers had just behaved like men, taken the ticket, talked to the boss, and explained all so as to get a non-suit, the city would not be paying out 1.5 illion dollars. Instead, the coppers acted like an out of control gang intent on exacting street justice on the TMA Supervisor. Well, in this instance, the street justice turned out to be quite costly.
BTW, I am a PO. Let's make this a 20-S. That stands for COPS BEHAVING BADLY------SILLY COPS GOT A BIG HELPING OF HUMBLE PIE AND THE CITY LOSES BIG MONEY.
Since there isn't a "Top Cop" and there isn't a FOP, ( un;ess you hit them upside the head with a brick), I guess were going to have to budget for fucking flares, Red for 10-1, Yellow for slow down and Green for Disregard...
How bout a grand finally type for We got a new "Top Cop"
Unfuckinbelievable
YOUTH GUY said...
WHY DOES A PAIR OF FILLMORE RANGER LOCK UP A DICK FROM AREA 4?
Because they're idiots. "Tac wonders." Not necessarily young ones, but ones who don't know shit because perhaps they were...oh, sent back to the street when they got rid of all the inside dollies?
In the command line type in "OPD W/ZoneX" X being the Zone you want to look up.
Again... Last night on z6... Someone screamed for help. Dipatcher didn't know who it was. She had to be told twice to do a roll call to find out who it was! And earlier someone in 007 calling for help... Some po had to come over the radio and say "first unit on the scene advise" isn't that her job?!!
Off topic:
Cmdr Kuemmeth is on the bubble in 022, and will likely be the next Goldstar to 'bite the dust' under
WEISel/Masters.
Rugai mighÞ just get her wish after all and wind up with Cmdr Tarmac running the Morgan Park District after all.
OT- Does anyone know who to contact when our badges fall apart and look like shit & do they even care or do anything about it ?
10/23/2009 08:25:00 PM
You know its really bad when even the star is fuckin fallling apart!
on zone 2 (023/019), we have nancy and mary...GREAT dispatcher. but these ladies have tons of experience!!! thank you guys!
10/23/2009 09:20:00 PM
When I came back the 2nd time around at "the homes"(before I started the riot hahaha) I had a few latched up for PCS in the 2800 Block of North Leavitt(no shock there) I called 911,told the calltaker the particulars,and when it came out on the Zone she attached "welcome back Chubbie" to the call. Absolutely made me feel great. Very good dispatchers.Concerned for the people in the field.
do we have a union
No, we have a clout unit.
SHHHHH, DON'T bug them, they might quit and start flying airplanes to Minneaplis from The new Sony airfield formerly Midway. Take your radios home and keep em charged, I'm listening.,,
Hats off to all the dispatchers that watch our backs. For the others that don't do their job, kiss our ass.
Well, We have great dispatcher on the Midnights on Citywide # 1. Paula & Lenny, both cool as cucumbers when the stuff hits the fan, niether moan & groan when asked for something and speak really good and proper english, and really hard to find, they can even Articulate thier words clearly. And on the 2nd watch we have Walsh, another one who never groans and speaks really clear and has great verbage. Thanks for always being their for us, "BIG DADDY"
After reading this
I am so happy to only have 10 yrs left.
All of this bullsh*t becomes exhausting. Just as bad as the dispatchers you complain about out there, so have the field units changed in the last decade or so.
There is no radio protocol whatsoever. Cars going down on traffic stops and without waiting for acknowledgment,ramble on to say they're running a dl and give a name check instead. Flashes not being given properly top to bottom outside in, not using their complete, callsigns, 561 , 1561, 2561, 4561, and get offended when you ask them to clarify!
Once again who's at fault here? Manangment and training depts.
There was a time a floor supv attempted to assist you with a hot job on the board, 10 1 , plans etc,, now they stand there looking over your shoulder with no contribution, same with the field sgts not doing their job! Secretly spying on thier units via pdt w/ squad, not correcting inappropriate comments made on the zone, etc. We are all in this sinking ship together.
ps to the comcast worker who didnt get help,, tell your aldercreature to hire 2000 police officers, believe it or not your brother wasn't the firt guy, getting battered calling for the police that day.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You know what I get most aggravated about? When there are people on foot chases or need help and we have to yell to the dispatchers who it is. They should know us by voice if we know each other by voice!
A little refresher course. During a foot chase, you need to tell the zone certain things. When you hit the key on the radio, the first words out of your mouth should be your beat number, then your location and direction you are running, then description of offender, then why you are chasing the offender.
But then again some of you guys think you are too important to give the rest of us that information, so we can't get there to help catch your one bagger offender.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You know what I get most aggravated about? When there are people on foot chases or need help and we have to yell to the dispatchers who it is. They should know us by voice if we know each other by voice!
A little refresher course. During a foot chase, you need to tell the zone certain things. When you hit the key on the radio, the first words out of your mouth should be your beat number, then your location and direction you are running, then description of offender, then why you are chasing the offender.
But then again some of you guys think you are too important to give the rest of us that information, so we can't get there to help catch your one bagger offender.
10/24/2009 10:00:00 PM
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Sorry, but location is more important to the police on the street. The beat number is only important to the dispatcher. We don't care who is chasing, just where it is so we can head that way.
The best dispatcher on Zone 6 are Carlos, Tabby, Mike and Jessica. They have to dispatch the craziest districts in the city 007 and 008. And they do an AMAZING job!
Mike was dispatching when that horrible day when fellow brother in blue Alex Valadez was taken from us. everyone who was actually there agrees that considering what happen he kept everything under control and lead everyone to the right locations. Which I am sure that was extremely hard to do.
Thanks for all that you do zone6 dispatchers!
Sorry, but location is more important to the police on the street. The beat number is only important to the dispatcher. We don't care who is chasing, just where it is so we can head that way.
Yes, location should be first if you are going hands on with an offender, but for footchase bt should be first.
Put the POLICE back into Police Dispatching.
PLEASE.
Now all you whiny self aggrandizing
"shot callers" behind a desk in a sturdy concrete bunker PLEASE go back to YOUR blog.I notice there isnt a whole lot of commentary there however it appears that you have migrated over here. Kinda sucks when YOUR readership mirrors your work output.......in the toilet.
Now turn the mobile back on and let us do our thing.
for what its worth im thankful to have karen, laura, & mike on the zone when im there! sometimes i feel bad for laura because she gets the short end of the stick...when mike & karen are not there she gets stuck with some newbies that just wouldnt know what to do without her but she has no choice but to deal with it! mike karen & laura know people by voice even if they dont know them on a personal basis! they get yelled at, cursed at, by ofcs & sgts but they never seem to care. i would never be able to do the job they do! they deal with the 007 dist 008 dist helicopters outside units u name it they got it on the zone! thank you laura, karen & mike! a million times thank you for a job well done & i speak for alot of ofcs out there thank you!
Anonymous said...
Has anyone else heard that former superintendent Richard Breczak is representing that shitbird that was shot after the chase on 90 at the elgin Tollbooth? Talk about selling your soul to the devil richie.
10/23/2009 02:42:00 PM
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Went against him a couple of times in Skokie......
He is BIG on the OEMC tapes and the dispatcher jargon/NOTES. Tries to get credibility of the Officers transmissions confused with TIMES, SITUATIONS, LOCATIONS etc.
So if it is a Jury Trial he will present this to show confusion based on the dispatchers notes / via computer and how it differs from what is actually happening. Based on times on the Case/Arrest Reports....
In other words the dispatchers jargon and time stamping can make the officers loook like they are still on the scene or have already gone into the station or a the chase was terminated via acknowledgement etc. etc. Basically FULL OF SHIT!!
He makes it look like the officer reported something wrong. Maybe that he/she may not have intended to say but the over zealous dispatcher made notes in advance based on their "experiences" with the people ont the zone. Then these genius' (dispatchers) when subpoenaed to testify stick to their jargon/notes on the stand having NO CLUE what YOU wrote on the CASE/ARREST reports for transports or relocation etc. and YOU look like you are hiding something or lying....HELL I could be a lawyer and trick these shitheads into paying me if I could sell this shit to them when being retained maybe even win these cases too especially in LIBERAL anti-CPD Skokie!
FYI these side notes made should be discussed via phone after each situation in the station between the dispatcher and officers involved so everyone understands what happend and it is documented accurately! Have a SGT. get the print out just to comver all bases!
Do this especially whenever P/O's have something "crazy" ! We all know these dispatchers start documenting shit! It could be huge in the finding! Then rest assured it comes back up again in the CIVIL proceedings!
3 bars
They all go to the same "church" that helped them get the job by a certain alderman and then make a 10% donation from each check to the "church".
Location,Location,Location...It is true in realestate and in police work. If there is a footchase, 10-1, shots fired at/by, street stop, or traffic stop, We (the working police on the street) don't care who it is. We just want to know one thing, LOCATION. Doesn't matter who is calling it in, only thing that matters is where they are so we can get backup to them asap.
10/25/2009 10:47:00 AM said...
"Yes, location should be first if you are going hands on with an offender, but for footchase bt should be first."
Bullshit!!! LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION! If they are telling you down at OEMC that a beat number is more important than location, then they have no idea what the hell they are talking about. I will say it one more time, LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION...PERIOD...EXCLAMATION MARK .!
juvenile is the first of the county court parking lots that require a parking fee.from what i have heard this will also be implmented at 26th street.at juvy its $2 a day or $25 for the month.
Peter Zur, zone 12 was by far the best,,,listened to him for 10 years on the west side he knew exactly where u were...
recognition of the officers by voice, just like callbacks, aren't part of any dispatch s.o.p. . the only exposure most dispatchers would have to these voices would be over the air, not like you guys that see each other in the locker rooms, at roll call, and on the street.
handle accordingly.
To the idiot who dares to say anything bad about Zone 6 dispatcher Carlos: you are a moron. Carlos is the best dispatcher out there. Three different units can be cutting each other out on the air and he will still hear me calling "emergency" for my foot chase! Carlos, you are great and don't let any of this get to you. We love you in 007.
work in 007 3rd watch. Carlos and Tabitha are great dispatchers. Makes for a shitty day when either are off.
Carlos is outstanding, we respect the hell out of you and Tabby in 008, who ever bad mouthed you on this site has their head up their ass. We always feel safe when you guys are on duty.
Well, We have great dispatcher on the Midnights on Citywide # 1. Paula & Lenny, both cool as cucumbers when the stuff hits the fan, niether moan & groan when asked for something and speak really good and proper english, and really hard to find, they can even Articulate thier words clearly. And on the 2nd watch we have Walsh, another one who never groans and speaks really clear and has great verbage. Thanks for always being their for us, "BIG DADDY"
10/24/2009 09:14:00 PM
Got to second that. 1st and 2nd watch have great dispatchers. 3rd watch was intentionally omitted.
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