Ed, Shut Up
What a stroke this guy is (and what a stroke Flannery is for even giving this the play he does):
- As Chicago aldermen prepare to pore over Mayor Richard M. Daley's $6.1 billion budget and the spending cuts and financial maneuvering needed to balance the budget, one alderman is suggesting a politically risky idea: pay cuts for police officers and firefighters.
- He said that means police officers and firefighters should have to take pay cuts to help deal with the budget. "I mean, they are employees of the city of Chicago and we have to make sure that the city functions."
But Smith's suggestion has no realistic chance of being approved by the City Council. - [Ald. Leslie] Hairston (5th) would like to eliminate the practice of paying police on days when they're "available" for duty, even if they don't actually get called in to work.
Well then Leslie, we'll just take that duty-availability as an add-on to our salaries and pensions as it was an "end around" play on actually giving us raises years ago. We did our part back then when the City was crying poor - what did you do? Oh yeah, another raise for you.
And Ed, you sure got a pretty mouth when you're talking about cutting police and fire manpower after you just voted yourself a 6% raise, voted your staff a 5% raise and increased your "discretionary fund" by $1.3 million per aldercreature. Are you giving any of that back for your $100,000 per year part time job?
When are these morons going to realize the City would function better with 30 less aldercreatures that with one less police officer?
And Ed, you sure got a pretty mouth when you're talking about cutting police and fire manpower after you just voted yourself a 6% raise, voted your staff a 5% raise and increased your "discretionary fund" by $1.3 million per aldercreature. Are you giving any of that back for your $100,000 per year part time job?
When are these morons going to realize the City would function better with 30 less aldercreatures that with one less police officer?
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
183 Comments:
My question is when the economy was doing good a few years ago why didn't the city save some of that money for a rainy day. I saved money every pay period because I knew the economy was not going to stay good. You can't expect the economy to stay good for ever. And da mayor says he is a visionary for the city? Why do the city workers have to pay for this mismanagement?
Time to strike. Oh that's right we can't but can be treated as 3rd class citizens.
I'll take a furlo day when they agree to cut their pay in half I mean come on it's a part time job and the city needs to function. Someone needs to confront one of these jagoffs the about their pay the second they cry poor.
I feel sorry for the citizens of Chicago.
I really do.
Masters.
i guess it takes alot of balls or no brain stem to come up with such a statement. sounds like more propaganda from coach daley s playbook. these ''people'' have no shame.i wonder if there s an extra crispy seating section in hell ? just a thought.
What more can you expect from these political whores.
I say we protest in front of smith's house. All I see this guy doing is bitching he needs more police resources in his ward yet now he's going to say we need to take pay cuts. We have cut our budget by not hiring any new cops. Where is that money going oh I'm sorry I see Smith voted himself a 6% raise that's where it went.
he was sent to do this. You think it is an accident ? Now its out there and it will be brought back up. Raises retro givebacks.....
EMAIL SENT TO SAID ALDERMAN:
Why don't you stick to what you know, which is nothing!!!!!!!! How about you give back a little of your 6% raise or better yet a little of your part time alderman's salary..... The Police Dept. already has taken it on the chin with backdoor layoffs, ie: hiring freezes. And no one has the balls to call the mayor or you political hacks on it. The Police are dealing with an extraordinary shortage of manpower which you and your cronies turn a blind eye to and the public reamins in the dark, yet everyone cries when something bad happens and is quick to blame the Police for not being there. Not sure on the exact numbers, but the Police Dept. generates revenue which covers its salaries, can't say the same for C.F.D , which just sleeps till it's hungy and then eats, but enough about them because they are just part time employees like yourself. Morale in the Police Dept. is already at a all-time low because of bone head moves by the mayor, ie: J.P.W. and his failings. So go ahead and keep f@*^ing with the Police and see where it gets you. GET A CLUE!!!!!!!!!!!! GET A REAL JOB!!!!!!!
SCC,
The city could operate very well with 11 Alderman.
Better yet since they bow down to the Mayor why not just eliminate them.
For that matter why not eliminate the Mayoral position.
Just let the Feds appoint an administrator like they do with corrupt unions.
The FAT LADY IS SINGING FOLKS...
Can something be put on the ballot to get rid of aldercreatures???
I love how now they get to prance around with the notion the Police and Fire are being so greedy.
As they sat in their nice offices, with a company car, spending account, and other"fringe-benefits" and voted themselves a raise or three, not one effort was made to complete the negotiations of our contract when the city was on "easy street".
I certainly hope the arbitrator understands the city is only poor during contract times.
These two buffoons were reading a script.
They're performing they're bit-part as required to stay in the club. It's all part of the Daley agitprop campaign against us designed to influence the public and the arbitrator. You can tell that we're in the middle of a media assault by the coverage given to unusual police related stories by local MSM's lackeys and stooges.
It's interesting as it's running parallel to the White House character asassination program being directed at national media outlets who haven't got on the bus yet.
Same crowd runs both campaigns.
The FAT LADY IS SINGING FOLKS...
10/24/2009 02:13:00 AM
She's was done singing a long,long time ago...she's home in bed now trying to sleep off a hangover.
BLUE FLU!! BLUE FLU!! BLUE FLU!!
Anonymous said...
Can something be put on the ballot to get rid of aldercreatures???
10/24/2009 02:14:00 AM
Sure, but they would have to introduce it and vote on it to get it on the ballot. Good luck with THAT!
I certainly hope the arbitrator understands the city is only poor during contract times.
10/24/2009 05:35:00 AM
There is no arbitrator. Just a guy with that title that does what he is told by the Daley/Burke Crime Family!
WTF! HOW MUCH LESS CAN I DO ?
Seriously, It IS time for a substantial pay cut for ALL
Aldermen. They are too highly paid anyway for the crap jobs they do, as evidenced by the enormous amount of Debt the City is in... THEY are the cause of it; Out of Control and irresponsible City Government. THEY, are the CAUSE of all this, NOT Us. Time for THEM to take the unpaid days, and the Salary Cuts, NOW. UNITE People, DEMAND this. THEY, are the Foxes guarding the Hen-House, don't kid yourselves. It's THEIR responsibility to manage the City properly, which they haven't been doing for decades. It's The FEDS Job to Police them, to keep them from Stealing everything in sight, which THEY haven't been doing. Now they're trying to place the blame on us, the employees and Taxpayers of the City, and the Police, yeah, you know, the ONLY ones who go out and make some REVENUE for the City.
Really, it's just time for all these old, thieving bastards to go, it's time for a Republican Mayor, even if only for ONE term, to break the Cycle of Constant Corruption of the Daley Administration, an ongoing criminal enterprise, which the Feds can't or won't do anything about, as they ARE NOT doing THEIR jobs either, which is to STOP Criminal Activity on the Federal level.
Take care of yourselves out on the street, it's unsafe due to poor City management, and try hard not to catch the Flu. You might hav to take medical time for a week or two, so don't get run down, take care of yourselves physically, because you know how that flu can come on you rapidly, without warning. Happens all the time.
I love it when people get on here and beef about the Mayor and the 50 Alderthieves. Trying to fight these imbeciles is like Don Quixote' de La Mancha tilting his spear at a windmill. It's laughable.
Our only weapon against them is the ballot box but too many people won't get off their ass and vote. Yet the Mayor allows illegal aliens to register to vote simply by showing proof of residency, gives them a bunch of free programs and shit, and then tells them if they want to keep their free programs, they have to get out the vote. And they do, every election!
Hey, the Daley Crime Family is equal opportunity. They will steal anyone's hard earned dollars, legal citizen, or illegal alien! Then, they just laugh all the way to the bank at all of us assholes that they fleece on a daily basis. God, I hate this Mayor!!!
Not sure on the exact numbers, but the Police Dept. generates revenue which covers its salaries, can't say the same for C.F.D , which just sleeps till it's hungy and then eats, but enough about them because they are just part time employees like yourself. Morale in the Police Dept. is already at a all-time low because of bone head moves by the mayor, ie: J.P.W. and his failings. So go ahead and keep f@*^ing with the Police and see where it gets you. GET A CLUE!!!!!!!!!!!! GET A REAL JOB!!!!!!!
10/24/2009 02:03:00 AM
DUDE! Focus on the REAL enemy and stop hating at the Fire Fighters... or wouldn't they hire you?
Ed Smith is as stupid as the rest of them. They are just poorly trained actors repeating what the stuttering prick tells them to say.
why does the media NEVER report about daley and his alderfucks taking a 6% raise while at the same fucking time telling everyone to take pay cuts or be laid off. FUCK THIS SHIT CITY AND THE MEDIA! Someone needs to report the fucking truth
Eddie Smith needs to clean up his slummy 28th Ward. What has he done to improve lives there? If I was 28th Ward Alderman (1983-present), that ward would look 20 times better.
Note to 0203; It's no wonder we can't get together with an attitude like yours against the CFD brothers in blue. Did your wife run off with a FF or couldn't you pass the exam?
Keep this type of rhetoric and the public will hate us all.
Keep your a$$wipe mouth shut goof.
s/CFD FF/PM
Aldermen take pay cuts? Never happen. Even the media won't touch the subject of cutting aldermen or reducing the number of wards. Oh, but they'll talk about closing stations.
Idea to save the city some cash
-Rezone the districts and eliminate 1 or 2 of them.
-Cut the number of alderman down to the number of police districts.
-In the first year take the money saved from cutting out 26 alderman and build aldermanic offices with assembly rooms and entertaining ability near each of the remaining 24 police districts. This will eliminate rent for the alderman as well as giving the communities a place to congregate. The up front cost would be a little steep but it would be a one time cost that would have been spent anyway on the aldermen that have been eliminated.
-Increase the remaining aldermanic staffing to include some form of caps style personel to perform the duties that the caps office does just at a far lower salary then what a P.O. makes. This is a two fold win, (a) the aldermen will have instant knowledge of thier constituents problems and can handle it if need be or report it to the D.C. if the police are required. (b) It will put all those officers back into patrol where they can be the most productive in police duties.
-projected savings:
Aldermen - $ 2,860,000
Ald. Funds- $78,000,000
Operating cost-$13,000,000
First year SAVINGS-$93,860,000
My guess is this is a lowball estimate but the way the city does business even at $50,000,000 a year in savings this would be a cost effective way to save money. One added bonus would be that the mayors buddies would have between 23 and 24 new contracts to build substandard office buildings at an inflated cost.
God save the C.P.D.
what a fucking piece of shit.
Gotta love it, when a cop emails an alderman, his frustration with Ald Ed Smith, and tries to explain why his job is more important then a firefighter, and in the process, puts a firefighters job on the line just like it is a part time job comparing a firefighters job to an alderman's job. We do not sleep all day and eat, like your mentality might have you convinced. Firefighters do not only perform the duties of firefighting. 90% of the job has shifted to medical runs. Many firefighters are cross trained as either EMT's or paramedics. Fire engines and trucks are becoming so called ALS (Advanced Life Support) and function and take on runs like an ambulance call. I think its best to learn more about how the Fire Departments roles has drastically changed over the last 10 years, then listening to the BS that you might want to beleive in. 15-20 runs a day on a ALS company is very common on a days tour of duty. And yes, Fireman loose their lives on the line as well. Come visit our fire academy and see for yourself, the lives lost and badges retired. Be safe out there!
Comparing a Chicago Firefighters job to an Alderman's job (Part -time job) Maybe you should take the next entrance test for the CFD and cross over, like alot of the coppers are doing, knowing that the CFD is a better job. Just a suggestion.
Ed is playing the Uncle Tom role for shortshanks. Da mayor can't come off sympathetic about the economic crisis then demand pay cuts from the group lowering the crime in the city. That is of course if crime has actualy been lowered and not altered by reporting.
Ed Smiff is just a political stooge that lost four elections for alderman until he jumped on Harold's coat tails.
As the youngest members (shorties) of the "B. Hussein Obama Youth Corps" would say..."MMM,MMM,MMM!"
As a regular Chicago citizen, this disgusts me. Sure every dept, like any company, has a few bad apples, but cops and firemen have jobs to serve and protect the rest of us. What exactly do aldermen do? What purpose do they serve other than to make sure their buddies and family members have their hands in the cookie jar?
I know there are always rallies and what not for the badges to support each other. I think its about time the citizens of Chicago put something together to back our cops up.
New name...Alderleaches
alderman smith should realize that we have to pay police officers a high salary to put up with the third world antics of the constituency of his ward... peace officers in the suburbs make good money and don't have to deal with "mr. smith's neighborhood"--- if you want to pay police officers and treat them like the garbage men they will go elsewhere and nobody will want this job.....
Ed Smith's ward is one of the most crimeridden and burned out cesspools in the City. How about the City just pulls all of its resources out of "Special Ed's" ward and deploys them somewhere else? That way police and fire wouldn't have to extend extra manpower to Ed and they could save money and cut costs by letting his ward and his constituents burn to the ground. Just looking for solutions for the City of Shitcago in these dire financial times. (Really getting tired of hearing that excuse from Richie, by the way.)
We need Kass or some other reporter with some balls to jump on this and ask why the city needs 50 alderman. Since 311 came around there really is no need for 50 alderman, you get all your city services by calling 311 and not kissing the aldermans butt. If the city eliminated at least half of the alderman the savings would be huge. How would we go about starting that process because we all know the alderman or mayor wont even broach the subject.
I am no fan of the Chicago Reader, but all of you should read their story, "The Shadow Budget". The Reader has written documents that disclose Daley has over, "One Billion Dollars", in TIF money he has siphoned off from the tax bills. There is no budget crisis other than the TIF money being stolen away from the general tax funds. Thats why this city is always broke. For every dollar that is hidden in a TIF account, thats one less dollar to pay a salary, or fix a street.
You know Da Mayor gave this guy the script to read to the media and catch the reaction of the public to police raises. Mr. Mayor is one, true, scum bag to the men and women in Blue.
If you want to privatize a job that will not only save the city money but will actually MAKE THE CITY MONEY!!!!! Privatize the job of alderman! Professional mediators (and only a handful at that) and city planners finally doing the job that these felons and bozos have been mimeing for a century and a quarter. Toss the shrunken leprechaun in the cal-sag and hire a business genius to run the city.
Will the last person leaving please turn off the lights....
P.S. Are we still doing that "WARRIOR" thing?
These aldercreatures are the reason the city is so messed up! It would be nice if someone in the media would do a segment on them and there money grab.
In these economic times this is not an unreasonable request. The police like to create their own bubble-world and forget they are entitled to only that which we the citizens grant them. This includes police powers and pay. Anytime powers or pay are restricted police get all upset and belligerent. Sorry, I know you all work hard and do a fine job out there protecting us. Well here is a news flash: THE REST OF US ALSO WORK HARD!!! When someone is breaking down my door at 3 am you are the first people I call. Thank _od you are there for my family and me. But guess what? When you need someone to teach your children, a nurse or doctors to provide care for you and your family or just a clerk to check you into a hotel other people are there for you too!!! We are making sacrifices and you are not exempt. You too have to shoulder up and sacrifice as well. Blame Daley, the police administration, alderman, Bush, Obama, whatever. I know a bunch of waste in government has caused this calamity and now WE the working force have to pony up and pay for the corruption. It sucks. The bottom line is that you have to take a hit like the rest of us. Maybe in the future we can send these cronies to jail or just vote them out but in the meantime don’t expect us to support a 10-15% salary increase for you while the rest of us are taking salary reduction or worse losing our jobs altogether.
Not many of you will like this post but it a slap of reality for you. I appreciate the hard work you do out there, just hope you appreciate the hard work the rest of us are doing as well.
I like the idiot unit commander in MAIS telling the guys they can't go to court while on furlough.
Opens the door for everybody to say "Fuck you - I'm not going on my RDOs either".
Would sure cut down on the child care/baby sitting costs
Go ahead goofy girl MM- make my day, might want to talk with labor affairs first though
Hey Ed why don't you set your little table and chair up at Huron and Lavergne again that seemed to work well for you 10 years ago. No one cares what you say you are an alderscum in the glamorous
015th District. Hell your whole ward could be wiped out and no one would care.
Fuck you Ed you racist bitch.
Let the Alderman patrol the streets and work in the schools since they only work part time. If they cut our salary I would park the car and not move for eight hours!
Let's not insult CFD. They are on our team. That nonsense plays into the Stuttering Pricks decide and conquer strategy .
I wish I could vote my self a raise like Mr.Smith!
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way".
Franklin D Roosevelt
Speaking of police I hear parents are complaining that poleeze in Fenger are being too aggressive and abusive to students? What the fuck do people want? Why do you assholes still want to work in these crap districts?
Well I guess Shortshank's "rainy day fund", lets just call it his own personal slush fund for laudering money, is out in the open now. Wow, I guess even the most brazine of Tyrants would bit the bullet and start fixing the shortfalls... Not this Tyrant, he has brass ones...
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! We are 2,000+ officers short! We HAVE DONE OUR PART! Has there been less hiring in aldercreatures?! No! Why can LA and NY do more with less? I say get rid of some of the aldercreatures. Cut it down to oh, 5?
Most alderthieves are driving caddy's with the discreationary funds (our money) paying for it! Except eddie burke no he has 2 new city crown vics,his "beat" is car 4 and he even calls in hand wavers with the 2 valets in the front at D-3+rates WTF!
the alderwhores do nothing anyway,ask them to fix a pothole or call 311 same response nothing fuck them!
SCC how about starting an online petition so that we can try and have a referendum placed on the ballot to reduced the number of aldermen to 25 and limit elected city officials terms to two terms. Is there anyone out there who know's the steps to get this done.
Can't we just eliminate alderman all together, Daley makes all the damn decisions anyway.
I will take a cut, if every alderman, including Mayor, staff ect.. take a cut!!! But of course that will never happen, because the alserman will pas a resolution, law ect.. stopping anything that may target them. Must be nice to be in power.
Maybe if that jag off po in 019 midnights did'nt 501 Ed's nephew a year ago with a smile he would be pulling for us not hurting our pocket books. thanks a lot that's all it takes is one guy to screw it up for everybody... and the nephew is a fireman!
I bet the mayor has his hand up his ass and is making the pupet talk !
According to Ald. Ed Smiff the police and firefighters should again pay for the SINS of the Mayor and Aldermenses and Alderwomanses as they again bow and worship Ed Burke as the CHIEF THIEF of CHICAGO and best money making whore Chicago had ever seen.
If Smith is anything like some of these other politicians you have to wonder how many of his politcal workers are former gang or current gang members. Don't forget his money he receives from poltical contributions that he will be able to use like a pension fund when he quits being an Alderman, maybe he should give that back.
They were put up to it. Another move by the mad man behind the curtain.
aldercreatures is such a stupid childish term
no offense to the HONEST Men and Women in blue, but perhaps if the rest of the CPD could actually stop getting multi-million dollar lawsuits filed against them (ie:http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-parking-dispute-verdictoct24,0,4761511.story) maybe, just maybe, you might get the contract that you truly deserve.
Everone hear about the screw ball idiot and stupid TRU SGTS who got caught with there pants down in 16 when they should of been in the 4th dist. Getting into a verbal confrontaion with a citizen which resulted in a nasty CR#. Way to go dumb ass's. Hope you get dumped
Just to be clear, the city of Chicago, like all other cities, have done a comparable worth accessment of all positions in the city. If you look you will see that police patrolmen are rated with crossing guards and meter maids. In the city's world they believe we are already grossly overpaid.
I am no city suck hole, but even the quickest glance around any rollcall room would reveal several "peers" who should just consider themselves lucky to have a job let alone one that pays like this one.
Folks we are in dangerous times and with millions of fellow citizens out of work we should be VERY thoughtful about what we ask for and what we do to earn our money.
If we demand proper treatment, due process with complaints etc, the public will be in our corner, but wage and benefit demands will fall on not just deaf but resentful public ears.
Hey Ed...Yo breff smells like mayor daley baby batter!!
Reduce the number of alderman to a total of 15. they are all disgusting criminals. This city does not need 50.
Off topic: Yikes, the Sun Times reports that Kate Hudson will film a Christmas story in Chicago recalling wonderful Christmases at home! I guess they will have to overlook what a rathole that house was and the fact that it was a well know dope spot. "White Cristmas will apparently refer ro cocaine.
OT: being a concern parent...is any NOT giving their kids the swine flu shots?
VOTE - VOTE - VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT OF OFFICE. LET'S STOP TALKING ABOUT REDUCING THE CITY COUNCIL AND DO SOMETHING. IF WE HAD 25 LESS USELESS ALDERMEN, WE WOULD SAVE 40 MILLION. VOTE PLEASE.
Its a shame when a city police officer bashes the firefighters and puts us in the same catagory as the aldermen (see anonymous, 10-24, 2:03am). Arent we in this together. It is often said " together we stand divide we fall"
Additionally, the CFD does produce revenue. Are you aware that there is a charge for the hundreds of thousands of ambulance runs that are completed on an annual basis.What about the Fire prevention inspections and building plans reviews, they dont come free come free. I would challenge your "part time " thoughts when we man the hose line in below zero weather or high heat indexes while we wear 70 lbs of equipment. To enlighten you further, a Firefighter has a substantially increased chance of developing any type of cancer due to the products of combustion. Hydrogen sulfide, hydrogen cyanide, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, are but a few of the products that enter our bodies after even the smallest fire. Part time, I dont think so. Stop by any firehouse on youp beat or in your district, learn a little about what we do and how many times a day we go out the door. I think you'll be surprised. With the number of medical runs and fire runs that we average, we propably spend more face to face time with the public than most city emoloyees including Police officers.
MAKE alderman a full time job and then cut their ranks in half
His comments are absolutely hypocritical. Ed Smith is attempting to be appointed to a soon-to-be vacant state representative's seat. Why would he do that, one may ask? Seems Ed Smith's 6 figure salary is not cutting it, and claims a second pension is necessary.
Daley is having a few of the dumber alder-jags put this out to see how it goes.Daley wants to see if he can get support for this and maybe pollute the arbitration.
O.T. Did anyone here see the latest on the news!
Shortshanks and company wants to sell off the Water Dept. to a German owned company!
It is already being reported that if this goes through that the German owned company plans to raise water rates 3x what we now pay! See your water bill times 3! See Channel 2 news on the broadcast!
First of all, Daley has just plain lost his mind and NEEDS to be recalled now!
He is selling the future of this city to foreigners no less! He's selling everything we have that make money to Spanish and now German corporations!
But, yet we are forced to live in this crappy city and its high taxes and fees!
What da F@$k? Mayor Daley you goof!
Hey SCC, this is important to us all! Run a thread on this topic!
Why does jfed get two city full time jobs? Dies he work 80 hrs a week to earn his double dipping salary? Isn't he answerable to the ethics ordinance?
It's funny how they are not hiring police & we are so short but if you watch the news everyone one of those ghetto ass gang banging schools keeps getting more police. Where are these bodies coming from all of a sudden????& I'm not talking about the OT program.
Mr Ed is not a horse he's an ass !!!!
Somebody please send this link to those shills for daley, alderman Smith and Hairston and let them know of the existence of a CONTRACT, even an expired one the provisions of which are still in place.
http://www.chicagofop.org/Contract/Contract_03-07.pdf
daley is real good at getting out what he wants while speaking through aldermen. Remember Ald. Beale the last time daley wanted some drum beating about our so called luxurious "perks."
daley is a master at this, the puppet master speaking though his puppets.
We can save a ton of money by simply eliminating all 50 aldermen and their offices and staff and simply putting on a show with 50 trained seals all clapping on cue and then pushing the electronic voting button. The one that gives them all a fish, these seals are smart you know and they learn fast how to get that fish by pressing the right button.
The city would save millions and school children would be entertained by the trained seal show down at city hall. All it would cost is some fish and someone to scoop out the seal shit occasionally.
Whats up with TRU unit? I hear 4 sargents put in par forms to go to districts. Could it be because of suckhole ryan? Maybew if he didnt give away the farm to every other unit and actually gave a shit about his own unit trhere wouldnt be such a mass exodus. P.O.s will be next. Mark my words.
You think 40 openings in 03 is bad, how about when 25% of your supervisors bid out of your unit to go back to the watch.
NOW THAT LOOKS BAD!!!!
As i do my job every day with the Sheriff I can see and hear how short you guys are.I tip my hat to everyone of you for you have the toughest job in the city and yet recieve no respect.Keep your heads up and stay safe maybe one day it will get better.
OT: Obama declares National Emergency on H1N1. Vaccines scarce at this time. But I saw pussy Shortshanks was one of the first in line to get his shot. Hey Shanks glad you weren't on the Titanic. Women and children first. You fuckin' piece of S--t. He a REAL MAN!!!!! Now get in front of the media and cry when your idiot son who is hiding out in Russia fucks up AGAIN!!!!! PUSSY.
How many days of medical are we allowed each year? I know a very accomodating doctor. Hmmmm....
Maybe they can sell some swine flu vaccine (crooks)
Waaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa, he lost the Olympics and now Dr. Evil must destroy all the Anti-City Hall super heroes, charge people for water, increase taxes and fire everybody.
I was there for contract talks in the past. The city knew that the younger officers were not thinking about long term and wanted money right now. That is the reason we got the increased availability cash . Long term, the city would have to pension that money and it would cost them more, plus future raises would not be based on availability money. Many people wanted true shift differential and better pay for those working cars versus those working desk jobs. This idea never got much wind behind it from the rank and file. So, duty availability for all, those who work the street in bad areas and those who fly desks. Just not fair, but what the rank and file wanted. Cash right now.
Anonymous said...
Just to be clear, the city of Chicago, like all other cities, have done a comparable worth accessment of all positions in the city. If you look you will see that police patrolmen are rated with crossing guards and meter maids. In the city's world they believe we are already grossly overpaid.
I am no city suck hole, but even the quickest glance around any rollcall room would reveal several "peers" who should just consider themselves lucky to have a job let alone one that pays like this one.
Folks we are in dangerous times and with millions of fellow citizens out of work we should be VERY thoughtful about what we ask for and what we do to earn our money.
If we demand proper treatment, due process with complaints etc, the public will be in our corner, but wage and benefit demands will fall on not just deaf but resentful public ears.
10/24/2009 01:24:00 PM
Hey jagoff, what about 3 years ago when our contract was up and the economy was going good? Did the city want to give us a raise or anything then? NO. You've gotta fight for everything with this mayor. He is not our friend and will screw us every chance he can. Just b/c he didn't have the foresight to plan for a possibility of a slumping economy some day, doesn't mean that we don't deserve a contract or a raise.
You're thinking of "well at least i have a job" would have us all risking our lives every day for pennies on the dollar.
You are an idiot and please don't put your dumb comments on here anymore.
i dont lightly regard the jobs the fire dept. does. they deal with the way of the savage also. police and fire need to stay on the same page. im sure they are swamped with bullshit calls, because we the police are always called to babysit the ambulance runs, etc., long term fire may face health issues related to chemical exposure and the like. police face exposure with shit like tb and hepatitis (think needles) as well as the common illnesses related to up close contact with shit ass dirty animals. i know we as police lose on average 2-3 police a year on average just in my 12 years on the job. i dont know or remember when fire lost someone due on the job. last i remember was the fireman who was hit by some asshole on the ryan. statistics wise, fire has a much safer day to day environment. fire is held on a pedestal, glamorized and romanticized (think backdraft movie and 911). police are always shown in movies in a negative role. cpd is hated, cfd is reverred!
Anonymous said...
I will take a cut, if every alderman, including Mayor, staff ect.. take a cut!!! But of course that will never happen, because the alserman will pas a resolution, law ect.. stopping anything that may target them. Must be nice to be in power.
10/24/2009 11:41:00 AM
you are a Blithering Idiot, why would you take a pay-cut if Daley and the Alder-
Whores would? Do you lie and steal like they do? Do you run the entire City into the Ground Financially due to your ineptitude? Do you feel guilty about something? ?? I won't voluntarily take a pay cut if EVERY one of these Ass-Wipes did, I'm honest and earn my pay, they don't, and maybe you don't, but I don't feel that I have to give up one Red Cent to these thieves and liars. You can volunteer yourself for a pay cut, but don't include me in, Chump, because, unlike you, I wasn't born YERSTERDAY.....
Everone hear about the screw ball idiot and stupid TRU SGTS who got caught with there pants down in 16 when they should of been in the 4th dist. Getting into a verbal confrontaion with a citizen which resulted in a nasty CR#. Way to go dumb ass's. Hope you get dumped
10/24/2009 01:18:00 PM
get the facts straight asshole. The "citizen" you refer to was a retired po drunk as a skunk who decided to MF the uniformed Sgts who were on a legit uniform adjustment home. (he has a history of getting drunk and beefing on the police) The Sgts told him that if he drives they will DUI him. He call the ballless tact Sgt who gets a CR# on them for "harassing" him. The ballless Captain then has the ballless tact Sgt driver her to the scene where she drives the beefer (ODPO drunk) home in his own car.
In most higher office elections, Eddie Smith loses badly. The only exception was State Central Committeemen over then incumbent State Senator Phil Rock, but even that "office" was lost to Danny Davis (when Eddie tried to challenge him for Congress).
Beside the Harold Washington coattails, the Ald. William Carothers (yes, related to Ald. Carothers) indictment help ensure Eddie's first aldermanic victory.
OT
Open letter to the superintendent,
Sir,
I have learned that YOU, your chief of staff, a couple of Sgt. and P.O.’s had a special session at the academy to take the power test. I commend you for talking the test, but why the special session?? You missed a golden opportunity to mingle with the troops. How much credibility would you have gained by standing shoulder to shoulder with the troops? You do this at the academy where supervisors are being made to sit through a leadership course. Good leaders stand with the troops, not above them. Maybe your advisers told you to do this, if so, please check your advisers. Leadership is earned and not given by rank or a degree. Also since you took the test make your results public. You take it to inspire the troops right? I was sadly disappointed to learn that the elitism still continues on the department. The troops already feel that the command staff live by a different discipline system, now, the chosen few can get special treatment. I am sure other P.O.’s would have loved to be able to set a personal time to take the Power test. People have kids and other lives to worry about, but the P.O.’s have to sign up for a specific time. Actions always have spoken louder than words, what did your and that of your staffs’ actions say to the troops?? Have you taken the leadership course? Has your staff? Or are they “exempt” from that too?
A proud member of the TROOPS
The number of aldercretins should be cut by at least 25. We have 25 police districts, right? Why not let, as someone else on this site suggested, each police district be a ward? It seems it would be easier for the Area Commander and the alderman to coordinate their efforts that way.
Most of all, cut the pay of the mayor, the aldercritters, and their staffs by 20%, and cut the number of people on their staffs. These people have shamelessly voted themselves pay hikes while reducing city services, and giving away our tax funds via TIFS and other Corporate Welfare, to every large business that shakes them down- the worst public policy in the world, designed to destroy the tax base.
Let's start with Ed giving up half of his alderpersons budget, his 6% raise for the next 5 yrs, let him cut his staff also & no raises for them.
Ed is so typical of the Daley Administration, "as long as I get mine, fuck everyone else" !!!!!
Why do we need aldercreatures ? All they are is conduits for $$$$$ to shortshanks pockets.
We can thank Shortshanks for fuckin' up this bullshit city. Shanks tore down Stateway Gardens, the Robert Taylor Homes, Abla and Horner Homes when he decided to take over public housing. Razed all the buildings just like Meigs Field and sent the RATS everywhere. Then Shanks decided he wanted to take over Shitcago Public Schools and fucked that up too with BULLSHIT test scores and students? being killt. At least Shortshit and fleger can now say no to gangs drugs and 2X4's.
Comparing a Chicago Firefighters job to an Alderman's job (Part -time job) Maybe you should take the next entrance test for the CFD and cross over, like alot of the coppers are doing, knowing that the CFD is a better job. Just a suggestion.
10/24/2009 08:34:00 AM
It's not better than my CPD job, statistically speaking structural fires over the last 25 plus years are down something like 35%, oh maybe there's a car fire or rubbish fire once in a while but why not take a look(again) at 8 hr.days for Firefighters, may save the city money?
FUCK MAYOR SHORTSHANKS. TELL YOUR PUSSY NEPHEW VANECKO TO PUT THE MONEY BACK INTO THE POLICE PENSION. NOW SHANKS WANTS TO DEMOLISH MCCORMICK PLACE-NO OLYMPICS. WHAT THE FUCK IS HE GOING TO DO WITH THE MERCY HOSPITAL PROPERTY HE BOUGHT AT OUR EXPENSE? VANECKO AND SHANKS' CONSTRUTION COMPANIES ARE SCURRYING AND FUCKING NERVOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
In these economic times this is not an unreasonable request. The police like to create their own bubble-world and forget they are entitled to only that which we the citizens grant them. This includes police powers and pay. Anytime powers or pay are restricted police get all upset and belligerent. Sorry, I know you all work hard and do a fine job out there protecting us. Well here is a news flash: THE REST OF US ALSO WORK HARD!!! When someone is breaking down my door at 3 am you are the first people I call. Thank _od you are there for my family and me. But guess what? When you need someone to teach your children, a nurse or doctors to provide care for you and your family or just a clerk to check you into a hotel other people are there for you too!!! We are making sacrifices and you are not exempt. You too have to shoulder up and sacrifice as well. Blame Daley, the police administration, alderman, Bush, Obama, whatever. I know a bunch of waste in government has caused this calamity and now WE the working force have to pony up and pay for the corruption. It sucks. The bottom line is that you have to take a hit like the rest of us. Maybe in the future we can send these cronies to jail or just vote them out but in the meantime don’t expect us to support a 10-15% salary increase for you while the rest of us are taking salary reduction or worse losing our jobs altogether.
Not many of you will like this post but it a slap of reality for you. I appreciate the hard work you do out there, just hope you appreciate the hard work the rest of us are doing as well.
10/24/2009 10:18:00 AM
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No I don't like your post and here is why.
When someone is breaking in your house at 3AM if there are no Police to respond someone gets hurt and possibly killed. If the Teacher or Doctor or Nurse is slow It means someone is already there checking you in and your chances of being hurt is small, you are already in the hospital or School. The fact you use the clerk at a hotel is way off. I know that the clerk has a job an I respect that like I do all working folks but if you are slow being checked in to a hotel no one gets hurts except for bruised feelings. I do not have to "take the hit"like the rest of you because when the $hit hits the fan you do not have to "take the hit like I do". I have worked over 20 years on the CPD and when the economy is good no one cares about my salary and pension except to ridicule it. I have heard more than once over the years "Why are you working for the city when you can make so much more in the private sector?" Now that the economy is bad I'm supposed to take the hit? When the Economy was good no one said " here is some extra for you." Because the Politicians screwed up does not mean I have to bail them out. I'm sorry you are getting your pay cut but your job and mine do not compare. Never have, never will.
Don't put us in the same category as the Fire Dept. If you do then put beds in our statiosn and we will sleep between calls. Not the fucking same.
the vile maxim of the masters of mankind" "All for ourselves, and nothing for other People.
- Adam Smith
Aldercreature ED Smiff be a mothafuckin FOOL. HUHHHHHHHHHHHHH
At Shortshank's city budget meeting all of the city SUCKHOLES were there applauding Shanks. And one of the biggest suckholes -Mara Georges-the B.S. Corp Counsel- is right next to Shanks waiting to change his pamper. Your children must be real proud of you Mara you kiss ass thing. Get some respect for yourself let alone your family you ROCK.
The aldercreatures get a raise every year plus they get to steal/take payoffs whenever they think the "G" isn't watching. All elected offices in Chicago/Cook county should have a term limit of 8 yrs tops, no exceptions.
we don't have a democratic goverment in chicago we have a monarchy that just gets passed down thru generations.
hey ed,hey leslie,GO FUCK YOURSELVES.you part time,over paided,do-nothing thieves.FUCK YOU!
guys, leave the fire dept alone--- they are eating the same shit sandwich as us-- the strike bullshit was thirty years ago and all those guys are dead and gone--- the cpd and cfd need to unite against those who wish to reduce our numbers and reduce our benefits-- strong we stand, divided we fall--- all of the engine and truck companies i deal with are good guys who have nothing bad to say about the police and always invite us over to the firehouse for some grub---
HEY DALEY ~ DON'T YOU REALIZE THAT IF YOU TOOK CARE OF THE POLICE, WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WRITE TICKETS FOR YOU TO HELP GENERATE REVENUE FOR THIS CORRUPT CITY??!!
Hey Ed, why don't you walk up to the door of Richard Francis' house or Alex Valadez' fiancee's house and float this by them?
10-1! Fund Raiser for 012th District officer Saucedo(IOD)
At the FOP hall on 30 October 09, 6PM ro 11PM. food/refreshments/ and live band. $20. Come out and support this good cause.
See PO Erklin (012)for tickets or buy a ticket at the door.
so...
now they're admitting (grudgingly) that they've been spending money like drunken sailors on leave in bangkok for the last 20 years?
"yeah we fucked up the city but we're going to fix it by taking money out of the mouths of Police Officers families."
and 10:18am... how can you in good conscience praise us on one hand and damn us with the other? have you been so utterly brainwashed by the daley media combine that you actually can support/believe what you posted? the circular logic of your post turns itself inside out under the guise of trying to appear well thought out and even handed. you and most civilians have truly fallen prey to the daley inc. media machinations of constant emphasis on the negative to marginalize, demonize and dehumanize Police Officers. THAT is what makes it so easy for people to say "why not force the Police to take pay cuts" esepcially in tough times.
we previously posted about how most citizens of this city suffer selective amnesia. When times are good, nobody gives a good damn about the Police. people are fast to crow about how much better they have it than we lowly Police Officers who "probably couldn't hack it in the real world" and other such feverish nonsense.
when times get tough and things get rocky for a lot of people, all of a sudden Police Officers, their pay and benefits become hot button topics... "cut their pay, pensions too sweet, compensated way out of line for what they do, they're all old and fat, i hope jody fires them all."
the biggest irony of all is that during tough times we see more people saying openly, "we want your jobs and benefits like yours too." have people gotten THAT childish, jealous and petty?
no doubt you naysayers had EVERY opportunity over the years to sign up but you didn't have the fortitude until your 401k tanked and your hours got cut. now you say the Police should hurt because you're hurting? we are NOT the cause of YOUR pain, financial or otherwise. we are NOT the source of cancerous corruption in this city and we will not be your punching bags just because we we swore an oath and wear a shiny piece of metal.
...and we thought the majority of people were made of sterner stuff than this. can't you see that as the Police Department goes, so goes the city? aren't you the least bit troubled by what's happening? or you don't care as long as the over-paid, early retirement, sweet pension having Police feel some pain, right? how small and mean can you be?
a Policeman's pain? 30 to 40+ years of death, destruction, chaos, nihilism etc...
seeing the dead in your sleep...
bagging someone who died and melted into their shag carpet...
listening to the spontaneous statement of someone who has murdered a toddler...
hearing some of your comrades screaming for help as their squad car is literally shot to pieces around them...
attending a hero's funeral...
dying a piece at a time when some of your own do things that taint the integrity of all...
working for a monster who delights in using pretext to take money out of your pockets, food off your table and tuition for your kids because you 're silly enough to want something better for them...
knowing full well that you may die younger than your peers due to the extra stress and aggravation of the aforementioned so you try to squeeze in a little life and living so your kids won't remember you as always trying to make a buck...
...two cars over 10 years old and not begrudging any copper for daring to have "nice things" like some civilans do. (to wit: so damn what Frugoli was driving a lexus truck etc, etc...)
missing family time... lot's of family time.
daley has you civilians eating out of his hands believing his propaganda against the Police.
he laughs...
eh...
RANT: on/(off)
fuck ed smith; i grew in that piece of dog shit's ward
I was feeling guilty today watching a movie drinking my coffee and thinking man I should be doing something right now, I just cant remember what it was..**yawn** umm 4 and 2s? oh yea? man, how many times can i clean out my locker and rearrange my gear bag? ok alder bitch i take a pay cut but first you have to.............. SUCK ME BEAUTIFUL!!! LMAO LIFM
Not many of you will like this post but it a slap of reality for you. I appreciate the hard work you do out there, just hope you appreciate the hard work the rest of us are doing as well.
10/24/2009 10:18:00 AM
Interesting perspective. I do agree with you that the police in this city are not the only ones that are suffering in these hard times. Everyone is affected by this bad economy; teachers, doctors, nurses and hotel clerks. Each must get up and go to work each day if they wish to earn their pay to keep themselves housed, fed and clothed. Each has their own unique problems to deal with each day; the teacher with the unruly student,the doctor and nurse with the belligerent patient and even the hotel clerk with trouble making customer.
But with all these work roles that you have stated, there is one difference between all of them and the job of a police officer and that is when a police officer goes to work, there is a good chance that he or she will not return home.
Oh sure, a teacher, doctor, nurse or hotel clerk could get killed be it in a car crash or as a victim of a crime but as far as becoming a victim because of their chosen profession, the chances are low to say the least.
If you do not believe me then maybe you will believe the U.S. Dept. of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics:
LOD Statistics
On average, a law enforcement officer is killed in the line of duty every 57 hours in America.
Between 1976 and 1998, of the over 1,800 officers killed--
16% were on disturbance calls
14% were in robbery arrest situations
14% were investigating suspicious persons/circumstances
13% were making traffic pursuits/stops
13% were attempting arrests for offenses other than robbery or burglary
10% were in ambush situations
7% were in an arrest situation involving drug-related matters
5% were in a burglary arrest situation arrests
6% were in other situations
Of the 901 assailants identified in the killing of law enforcement officers from 1989-98 --
almost half had a prior conviction
almost one-fifth were on probation or parole at the time
Most law enforcement officers are killed with firearms, particularly handguns.
SOURCE: U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics
Can this be said for a teacher, doctor, nurse or hotel clerk?
You must remember Police Officers do not get paid, what some people might ( and have ) called their exorbitant salaries, because of what they do. They get paid those salaries for what they MIGHT HAVE TO DO! Each and every officer, each and every day they put on the uniform has a chance of taking a life or having their life taken from them.
So excuse us if we sound a bit greedy. Like you, we want the best for our families and maybe, just maybe, a little recognition for the job we are sworn to do.
It's not easy having to deal with ignorant assholes like yourself every day. If you think that your police force does not deserve what they have, then by all means do whatever you can to make sure that they don't.
So the next time when someone is breaking down your door at 3 a.m., call for a teacher, doctor, nurse or hotel clerk to save your sorry ass!
Just blow it out yer ass, Ald Smith!!!
Just asking but I had to pick up commendtion ceremony pictures at HDQRS last week and was told to go to the Preventive Programs on the 4 floor. Observed a bunch of coppers doing nothing and they all had pictures of their family, kids etc. hanging in their little cubicles or whatever they call their desks. WTF. This ain't your fucking home and pictures of your children may end up on you tube. Go back on the streets you useless fucks.
They have lost their minds. These aldercretures don't have a clue.
no offense to the HONEST Men and Women in blue, but perhaps if the rest of the CPD could actually stop getting multi-million dollar lawsuits filed against them
Wow! You must be one of those Honor Students I've been reading about lately. Ok, since you seem to know everything just how do YOU recommend that this happens? 1.5 million? What a joke! And $300,000 for EMOTIONAL DISTRESS???
No, what needs to happen is reigning in these idiotic judges. This judgement would never have happened if it was anyone else in society. But when it's a police officer, well SHIT! THE SKY'S THE LIMIT!
The punishment should fit the crime. Upping the punishment because the defendants were police officers is just plain wrong. If it were any other member of society you would hear the scream of RACISM bouncing off the downtown buildings!
MASTERS PLAY POLICE. MASTERS MASTERS PUSSY MASTERS.
Get rid of Smith, and all the Alder-vermin. They are nothing but money-launderers, bagmen, carpetbaggers, thieves, and pawns of little Hitler Daley.
"aldercreatures is such a stupid childish term
10/24/2009 01:12:00 PM"
And yet, so exceptionally accurate.
I tried to use this idiots city email but it got rejected at about 1735hrs today. Maybe he blocked all emails or his email got overloaded. Keep trying to email him so that he gets the message.
"....I am no city suck hole....
10/24/2009 01:24:00 PM"
Liar.
"no offense to the HONEST Men and Women in blue, but perhaps if the rest of the CPD could actually stop getting multi-million dollar lawsuits filed against them (ie:http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-parking-dispute-verdictoct24,0,4761511.story) maybe, just maybe, you might get the contract that you truly deserve.
10/24/2009 01:16:00 PM"
Uh, asshole, anyone can both file a lawsuit and get a judgment in this fucked up shithole.
Whether it's a settlement, courtesy of the morons all too willing to dole out the taxpayers dollars, or the very same taxpayers, as jurors, granting these absurd payouts for mickey mouse bullshit claims of 'damage', very few of these lawsuits against the CPD have actual merit.
Of course, idiots like you assume that every lawsuit is an honest person attempting to receive 'justice'.
That could not be farther from the truth.
"Let's not insult CFD. They are on our team. That nonsense plays into the Stuttering Pricks decide and conquer strategy .
10/24/2009 10:58:00 AM"
Didn't you recognize a daley instigator when you read that posted comment?
They can be slick, wrapping their bullshit in more agreeable sentiments, just to try and fool those not paying attention.
"10/24/2009 07:13:00 AM"
Don't let the county's state's attorney and the state's attorney general off the hook here.
It's their duty, first and foremost, and they are both as corrupted as the city council and the mayor's administration.
Stop by any firehouse on youp beat or in your district, learn a little about what we do and how many times a day we go out the door. I think you'll be surprised. With the number of medical runs and fire runs that we average, we propably spend more face to face time with the public than most city emoloyees including Police officers.
10/24/2009 02:34:00 PM
In the past, beat cars frequently visited fire stations. Now, the welcome wagon seems closed. Paramedics work closely with police but firemen are distant. I admit handling a fire call is hard work with danger but calls are not frequent. In the winter is brutal for fire fighters. I do not understand the lack of friendship but it does exist. I would extend every courtesy to firemen but not friendship. There is a wall.
016 District Section 8 said...
Speaking of police I hear parents are complaining that poleeze in Fenger are being too aggressive and abusive to students? What the fuck do people want? Why do you assholes still want to work in these crap districts?
10/24/2009 11:01:00 AM
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Because some of us "assholes" as you call us, who work in 022 also live in 022 and prefer to work in the district we live in so we can patrol our own neighborhood....ASSHOLE!!
I/F
in response to 10:18:00 AM
No one here is going to disagree with you that times are tough. I think every copper will tell you that all we want is a fiar shake. This is my 3rd contract go around. Why does every contract take 2 years to settle? How come they are not negotiated before the current contract expires? As for a raise, if an arbitrator decides that 2009 and 2010 are going to be tough years we can't give you a raise, I can at least understand that, But back in 2007 and 2008 when times were good and we didn't have a contract, where is my 4 or 5% raise? That's right when everone else was making money right up until the edge of the recession, we were not. We were in contract negotiations (alledgedly), so the city should have been saving their pennies, the pennies they weren't paying us. We are forced to live in the city, I was well aware of that when we signed on, but they never told us that the city would not negotiate in good faith with us. They never said that the city and the county would continue to raise every tax and fee and not even give us a cost of living raise to offset that. So I tell you this, and I will tell every co-worker that I can. If the city doesn't give us a decent raise for 07, 08 with retro (the money they should have paid us) there needs to be a work stoppage. Contract and IL state law be damned. I love working but it's hard to care about a city that doesn't care about you.
Not many of you will like this post but it a slap of reality for you. I appreciate the hard work you do out there, just hope you appreciate the hard work the rest of us are doing as well.
10/24/2009 10:18:00 AM
AMEN!
IF, if we are made to take ANY... "UNPAID FURLOUGH" days then FOP should hire back those officers on those days to go door to door in the neigoborhoods of the aldermen who voted for that and hand out leaflets telling people what fools they have elected.
When this happens, the local beat cars can cover this, "hold me down assisting a citizen."
But, I would do this for free, but it might violate some under-the-table retirement agreement richie has with the FOP brass.
"Not many of you will like this post but it a slap of reality for you. I appreciate the hard work you do out there, just hope you appreciate the hard work the rest of us are doing as well.
10/24/2009 10:18:00 AM"
Why you ignorant, self-centered jerk. The CPD is currently short 1000 sworn personnel. Which means the rest of us are doing their jobs. There is your sacrifice like all of you private sector hotshots are making. That's $75,000,000+ with benefits that the City is saving every year. And when the economy was good all you private sector hotshots were belittling us for taking the lowely civil service jobs with less pay. Well, now it looks like we made a better decision. And what about the raises the teachers and alderman got when times were good? I'll leave it to someone else to call you what you are.
Where are the aldermen who tell us to our face they support Police & Fire and constantly deliver to themselves better benefits, pay raises, pensions etc. than they give us? Are there any aldermen willing to rebuff Smiff's B.S. comments? Where is Doherty, where is Burke, where is Levar, Laurino, Pope, Banks, Allen, Balcer and the others? Where is the outrage from FOP and Local 2 regarding Smiff's comments? Vote them all out of office!
Mr. Ed smith, there are many dedicated citizens of the city of Chicago who would do your part time job for volunteer work , and still do a better job in your ward for 100,000 less! Ok,let's times that by 50! Oh, and minus your 6.0 raise! Save money cut the alderman by 25 percent!
Anonymous said...
O.T. Did anyone here see the latest on the news!
Shortshanks and company wants to sell off the Water Dept. to a German owned company!
It is already being reported that if this goes through that the German owned company plans to raise water rates 3x what we now pay! See your water bill times 3! See Channel 2 news on the broadcast!
First of all, Daley has just plain lost his mind and NEEDS to be recalled now!
He is selling the future of this city to foreigners no less! He's selling everything we have that make money to Spanish and now German corporations!
But, yet we are forced to live in this crappy city and its high taxes and fees!
What da F@$k? Mayor Daley you goof!
Hey SCC, this is important to us all! Run a thread on this topic!
10/24/2009 04:31:00 PM
yes and just think the suburbs tack on extra $$$$$$ what would it cost when the new owners take over? WTF daley is fucking mad he needs to be indicted or admitted NOW! The 50 followers are so fucking weak yea ghetto ed smith also! Thought burke was strong guess his senility is setting in! "How many valets do I have, how many cars do i have,why do they work 2 on 3 off,why do we pay D-3?" what a goof!
I would love to run for the 26th ward alderman's position and if I win I will fight to get more Police and increment in your salary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
H.P resident and PRO-POLICE 110%
Anonymous said...
O.T. Did anyone here see the latest on the news!
Shortshanks and company wants to sell off the Water Dept. to a German owned company!
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The obvious thing to sell off is the CTA. Sell it to someone who might run it efficiently and who would first off shitcan all the useless high paid dead weight over there.
I have no problem with CFD. They have transported me a couple a times. They always welcome me in 017! We are all on the same team!
This midget stutterimg clown is engineering a revnue shortfall in the future that can only be averted by a city owned Casino. Why not....Why wait.
In the past, beat cars frequently visited fire stations. Now, the welcome wagon seems closed. Paramedics work closely with police but firemen are distant. I admit handling a fire call is hard work with danger but calls are not frequent. In the winter is brutal for fire fighters. I do not understand the lack of friendship but it does exist. I would extend every courtesy to firemen but not friendship. There is a wall.
10/24/2009 09:22:00 PM
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For all of you youngsters we used to get on ok with the firefighters. They were unionized before us. They all had union trade cards for secondary jobs back then. They were also 95% in the Sr. Daley’s pocket too. Then he died and Balandick became mayor. Then the snow storm and his arrogance got him thrown out of office and Jane Byrne came in. They tried to push her bottons at the bequest of the 11th ward and went on strike. They lost the pissing contest.
We were put on two twelve hour shifts. The first couple of days were ok then the shit started. They were getting very drunk around the barrel and egged each other on. If you were a nice guy and let the strikers use the bathroom they took in hammers and then started a make believe fight at the curb that you had to handle while the guy in the back broke the sink and toilet in the bathroom and kitchen sink. You got suspended for it. If you said no to the bathroom and drove they vandalized your car. Remember that they went to picket at McCormick Place at 6am and at 8am they sunk in to work as electricians, carpenters, riggers, and teamsters taking work from real union members not those who got their card thru politicians. The public did not jump on their band wagon as fast as they thought and they started to set fires. Several got arrested for arson. The strike was settled and Byrne gave us our first contract.
The firefighters again jumped on the Daley bandwagon with mayor Chuckie. And he treated them well at first. But then came their time to be on front page of the paper and their lawsuits fighting merit and affirmative action promotions. Now they are one of Chuckie’s nightmares. The two of us are the only two unions that Shortshanks does not own. Now Mayor Chuckie could even care less about them then he does about us. Smoke detectors have cut their workload down while ours has gone up big time. Their union is now irrelevant. The city told them that they will get what we get and nothing more.
In a few years all of those drunks around the barrel and those of us that were on the job will be gone. Then the two groups may get back to the way it was before the strike.
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In these economic times this is not an unreasonable request. The police like to create their own bubble-world and forget they are entitled to only that which we the citizens grant them. This includes police powers and pay. Anytime powers or pay are restricted police get all upset and belligerent. Sorry, I know you all work hard and do a fine job out there protecting us. Well here is a news flash: THE REST OF US ALSO WORK HARD!!!
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Not many of you will like this post but it a slap of reality for you. I appreciate the hard work you do out there, just hope you appreciate the hard work the rest of us are doing as well.
To the above poster
Do not talk to me about sacrifice! When you are in your backyard barbequing for 4th of July with your family and friends , I am driving around protecting you so you can celebrate, When you are getting drunk on New Years Eve , I am chasing the idiots shooting in the air so you don’t get shot, when you are running away pissing your pants as the gang bangers shoot at each other I am running toward them. Enjoy your holiday dinner at home, I will stop at the station between domestics over turkey legs and grab some food on a plastic plate and eat standing at the desk. On my day off I will be going to court to testify against those bad guys that I locked up when you were sleeping, Maybe next week I can see my kid. When you clerks , teachers and nurses enjoy the good economic times and get nice raises and benefits I will get my cost of living (not! ) raise. Granted when most of us took the job as police officer we knew what we were getting into.We were willing to make the sacrifice our entire careers not making as much as someone in the private sector. When times are good economically we do not benefit as those in the private sector do but we still do our job, when economic times are bad, our jobs become even harder as people get more desperate.
I chose to be a Police Officer know everything involved, you chose your career, DO NOT TELL ME TO SACRIFICE. I sacrifice every day and some people I know sacrificed their lives doing what I do, to protect you!! In a few years you profession will be making money hand of fist again and you will be laughing about 2009. I will still be working as a Police Officer because it is what I love to do , hopefully I will be getting paid what I deserve but either way I will still be protecting you.
OK forget about giving us a raise. How about letting us live outside the city and just think of the money the city can save by letting us live where we want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I as a Po respect and consider firefighters as brothers. I renember days in patrol, I'm a decective now, sitting at a fire scene in January, watching them fight a fire. I've watched firemen sitting on the peak of a roof chooping holes in 0 degree weather, full of icicles and watched them in 95 degree weather with full bunker gear on. I've seen 2 that were thrown about 50 feet when a backdraft hit them when they opened a door. We may have different threats, but every job neither we nor the fire fighters know if you are going home. They may have hours set different from us, but there have been times they have been on the scene of a fire almost a whole shift. We need to come together and stop the animosity. We are both first responders with dangerous jobs. We need to come together and push Shortshanks and the alderthieves into trying to cut our pay. Our jobs do not compare to any other city job. The respect we get from CFD when we lose a brother should always be kept in mind. The same respect we should give them when they lose one of their own. We may have different jobs, but we all never know if when we leave for work if we are coming home to our families. This is the time to come together as one and not drive a spike between each other. The more voices heard and for us all to stick together is what we need to do and keep on doing. If you have never seen the respect, just watch how fire treats a PO that is shot or killed. There is no animosity there and there should be no reason for any animosity for CFD. They are our brothers also. The comments many PO's have made against CFD are wrong and uncalled for. Don't start a fued for no reason, when the real enemy is at city hall. We need to come together and show a strong force against the Mayor and Alderman. When was the last time an Alderman put his life on the line. Never. CFD does every day, just as we do. Quit trying to hammer a wedge between CPD and CFD. the only winners will be the politicians. Think before you publish asuinine comments. CFD is not the enemy. The politicians running this city are the enemy.
Comrades,
When will you finally realize that you live in the People's Republic of Chicago? That it is run by Chairman Daley and it has spawned the godman Obama, all praise his name. This town is Leftist Central of the United States, leaching unions and the author of the Obama Playbook, 'Rules for Radicals' by Saul Alinsky, called it home.
I'm not a raving right-winger, far from it. I believe in God, our Constitution in which he endowed our Freedoms. I believe that it brought us American Exceptionalism and am saddened to see Obama throwing it away. I don't want the government to be my mother and I can wipe my own ass just fine, thanks.
Unfortunately, the majority of our fine citizens, who which we put our lives on the line everyday for, couldn't give a fuck if we get killed, think that we're all fascists and most voted for the clowns that now govern us.
Yet, some of you drank the kool-aid and voted for them, too. This means that for the rest of us there really isn't anything that you can really do anymore. Some of you will continue to do your duty and that is an admirable and honorable, but in the end it won't matter much, except to ourselves. God Bless you, I can't criticize you. There are others, who after realizing what is going on, have already retired and are just waiting on their official retirement date. I don't hate you either. The rest are somewhere in between, just marking time perhaps.
You are basically left with two choices in the end. You can either just join them lockstepping with the brownshirts or you can leave.
Whatever you choose, I wish you Godspeed. Stay safe and go home the way that you went to work.
Anonymous said...
Note to 0203; It's no wonder we can't get together with an attitude like yours against the CFD brothers in blue. Did your wife run off with a FF or couldn't you pass the exam?
Keep this type of rhetoric and the public will hate us all.
Keep your a$$wipe mouth shut goof.
s/CFD FF/PM
10/24/2009 07:56:00 AM
Anonymous
To the person who wrote the original post bashing the Cfd brothers in blue and comparing them to the aldercreatures
Its a shame your letting them turn you on the firefighters when you should be hating the politicians who are fucking you royally.
You really should shut your mouth!
And stop hating because you checked the wrong box.
Anonymous said...
Off topic: Yikes, the Sun Times reports that Kate Hudson will film a Christmas story in Chicago recalling wonderful Christmases at home! I guess they will have to overlook what a rathole that house was and the fact that it was a well know dope spot. "White Cristmas will apparently refer ro cocaine.
You moron! Kate Hudson is a little blond girl (Goldie Hawn's daughter).
To 10:18 who says his comments are a slap in the face, yes they are, a very girly limp wristed one at that. Stick your private sector woes up your ass. While you and your ilk were making huge sums of greedy money we were making a steady cost of living increase of 3-4% a year. Thats the tradeoff, when times get tough we don't get laid off and we still get cost of living adjustments. Oh, and in case you haven't noticed, our ranks have fallen in numbers and with every recession crime goes up so our workload increases. I find it difficult to believe that you appreciate what we do if you were getting better raises than us and didn't speak up for us before.. I doubt you have any clue what we do, most people don't, alot of us didn't know who didn't have close family on the job until we took the job. Lastly, I use the word "job" because thats what we refer to it in our own vernacular, but truly it is a vocation. There aren't too many jobs out there that are vocations, but we're the ones that are the ones that keep the thread of society going. So go on Joe Public, keep abusing us and see how many are willing to take on a vocation after they have seen what we all go through. Here endeth the lesson.
Shanks tore down Stateway Gardens, the Robert Taylor Homes, Abla and Horner Homes when he decided to take over public housing. Razed all the buildings just like Meigs Field and sent the RATS everywhere.
Did you mean RABBITS not(RATS) and Im not saying because are bigger but because the PIECES OF SH$T are reproducing like them
Whats up with TRU unit? I hear 4 sargents put in par forms to go to districts. Could it be because of suckhole ryan? Maybew if he didnt give away the farm to every other unit and actually gave a shit about his own unit trhere wouldnt be such a mass exodus. P.O.s will be next. Mark my words.
You think 40 openings in 03 is bad, how about when 25% of your supervisors bid out of your unit to go back to the watch.
NOW THAT LOOKS BAD!!!!
Ever hear of spell check?
For your info jag bag, they are four north side sgt's who are not happy about having to drive to 61st and racine everyday, with no secure parking. Sorry you didn't get into TRU, but get your facts straight before you open your trap. Your about as smart as the moron talking about the sgt's getting caught with their pants down in 16, again they should get their facts straight, the Capt in 16 was a two-faced bit*& and the citizen was a retired p/o who has gotten tons of cr's on p/os.
Have you taken the leadership course? Has your staff? Or are they “exempt” from that too?
A proud member of the TROOPS
10/24/2009 06:22:00 PM
You cant teach "leadership" from a course.
I'm glad they had a special session just for them. I wouldent want them near me!
Why you ignorant, self-centered jerk. The CPD is currently short 1000 sworn personnel. Which means the rest of us are doing their jobs. There is your sacrifice like all of you private sector hotshots are making. That's $75,000,000+ with benefits that the City is saving every year. And when the economy was good all you private sector hotshots were belittling us for taking the lowely civil service jobs with less pay. Well, now it looks like we made a better decision. And what about the raises the teachers and alderman got when times were good? I'll leave it to someone else to call you what you are.
10/24/2009 09:35:00 PM
Your numbers are fucked up. Try in the neighborhood of 4000 sworn! Thats not only P/O's, that shortage includes Sgt's Lt's and a handfull of Capt's!
Granted, the average for a P/O is about $75K, but slightly higher as you go uo the ladder!
All that they can do is to suggest a pay cut; to suggest that we take an unpaid furlough (leaving the city even more unprotected due to our already-undermanned police department) would be political suicide.
It's time to vote all of these fools out.
The part-timers vote themselves and their staffers an immediate raise and we're supposed to take a pay cut?
Be serious.
rb
Re:
The obvious thing to sell off is the CTA. Sell it to someone who might run it efficiently and who would first off shitcan all the useless high paid dead weight over there.
10/24/2009 10:32:00 PM
Can't sell the CTA. It doesn't belong to the city.
Don't fall into the trap! One of their tactics is to turn us (city employees) against each other.
Demonizing us as "greedy", while the other employees gets stuck with unpaid furlo days makes us look like the enemy; but we're not-Tricky Dick Daley and his cronies are. They're alredy parading the 4&2 schedule thru the newspapers-cops to work less (but get paid the same).
City employees need to stick together-especially now!
Don't let this bastard take your focus off of the real issue: his thievery.
If the city is so damn poor, how is it we were going to bankroll the Olympics?
This guy's full of crap.
Stand together!
We can only hope and pray that Smith turns up on the tapes from the wire that Police/Fire Chairman Carrothers wore for the "G"! Please Ed, enliven the Chairman's upcoming trial!
With a bit of luck, he will be reduced to shitting allover his fellow aldermen in a disgusting courtroom bid to save his own sorry ass.
Fuck you Smith.
since aldercreatures already carry pistolas, lets give them a vest and let them handle some of the non-stop domestics in their wards..that would help me believe that they are earning their salaries.
Anonymous said...
Re:
The obvious thing to sell off is the CTA. Sell it to someone who might run it efficiently and who would first off shitcan all the useless high paid dead weight over there.
10/24/2009 10:32:00 PM
Can't sell the CTA. It doesn't belong to the city.
10/25/2009 01:39:00 AM
Size it and then sell it.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
O.T. Did anyone here see the latest on the news!
Shortshanks and company wants to sell off the Water Dept. to a German owned company!
It is already being reported that if this goes through that the German owned company plans to raise water rates 3x what we now pay! See your water bill times 3! See Channel 2 news on the broadcast!
First of all, Daley has just plain lost his mind and NEEDS to be recalled now!
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Recalled to his creator perhaps, but there is no electoral recall process for public officials in Chicago. Do you think it would be that easy to get rid of him? Recall? Hah!
When he was elected in 1989 he was dubbed mayor for life. True then, true now.
To
10/24/2009 10:18:00 AM
who wrote that long post. Police have already had 1.000 at least laid offb through retirements over the last 2 1/2 years that have not been replaced. Daley won't admit this because it will piss off people whining about all the public honor school students dying. I sure the FOP has the real numbers but since Mark seems to be buddy buddy with Daley it won't be released.
Second point Police havent' had a raise in several years before economy turned sour. We are just trying to get a raise due to us from years ago. I bet your job doesn't have to wait years for your raise.
Do you get spit on, hit, shot at, sworn at, punched at, body fluids thrown at you, or have deal with the most foul urine soaked bum on the street, deal with gang bangers and angry citizens mad because they broke the law and now have to pay or go to jail? Cause if you did deal with what I deal with on a "daley" basis or I meant daily basis but that another whole story of dealing with unsafe political hack bosses promoted because of who they know/sleep with only. I would say that in order to keep society from falling apart you might need a raise too
Third point is police generate revenue. Happy police=more revenue
That is the ancient equation that works.
Your numbers are fucked up. Try in the neighborhood of 4000 sworn! Thats not only P/O's, that shortage includes Sgt's Lt's and a handfull of Capt's!
You are way off hotshot. Go to Clear and run the job title codes. We are aboud 700 short. This includes all ranks. When you run off at the mouth with bad info it just shows your ignorance.
Anonymous said...
Have you taken the leadership course? Has your staff? Or are they “exempt” from that too?
A proud member of the TROOPS
10/24/2009 06:22:00 PM
You cant teach "leadership" from a course.
I'm glad they had a special session just for them. I wouldent want them near me!
10/25/2009 01:14:00 AM
You have not drank the koolaid. All exempts took the 7 habits class and leadership class. The results are obivious. They can take the talking stick and shove it.
So go on Joe Public, keep abusing us and see how many are willing to take on a vocation after they have seen what we all go through. Here endeth the lesson.
10/25/2009 12:00:00 AM
I be willing to bet if the city offered a test for new recruits that thousands would take it. 10% unemployment and people are desperate. Your workload will never decrease and you do not have political support. Aldermen will not give you furlough days but the next contract will be a big disappointment. Daley is a genius at keeping cpd divided and working.
"...If we demand proper treatment, due process with complaints etc, the public will be in our corner, but wage and benefit demands will fall on not just deaf but resentful public ears."
10/24/2009 01:24:00 PM
Maybe those deaf but resentful public ears should have their life on the line eight hour a day protecting society in their job. You say their only danger is getting a paper cut?
WELL THEIR BITCHING AND CRYING IS FALLING ON MY DEAF AND RESENTFUL EARS!
When you are in your backyard barbequing for 4th of July with your family and friends , I am driving around protecting you so you can celebrate, When you are getting drunk on New Years Eve , I am chasing the idiots
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& your getting paid holiday pay for that! We are ALL making sacrifices...don't put yourself above anyone else who works hard..!!!
How about an Alderman per District instead of 50 of them....Considering they make about $110,000 a year and then get $96,000 a year to rent offices and and attend all of thier functions, I bet we can save a heap load of money! New York only has 25 and have more citizens then us....Just a thought Richie!
Great point...we need less Alderman. L.A. has 15 Alderman, but 1 million more people. NYC has 51 Alderman but 6 million more people. It appears we need only 12 Alderman - which means 75% reduction in Budget!! What a great savings.
Anonymous said...
since aldercreatures already carry pistolas, lets give them a vest and let them handle some of the non-stop domestics in their wards..that would help me believe that they are earning their salaries.
10/25/2009 02:17:00 AM
Carry pistols but never qualified! They also have badges, now let them patrol there own "ghettos" especially ed smith that ghetto fab POS!
"For your info jag bag, they are four north side sgt's who are not happy about having to drive to 61st and racine everyday, with no secure parking. Sorry you didn't get into TRU, but get your facts straight before you open your trap. Your about as smart as the moron talking about the sgt's getting caught with their pants down in 16, again they should get their facts straight, the Capt in 16 was a two-faced bit*& and the citizen was a retired p/o who has gotten tons of cr's on p/os."
Cry me a river.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1csr0dxalpI&feature=related
no offense to the HONEST Men and Women in blue, but perhaps if the rest of the CPD could actually stop getting multi-million dollar lawsuits filed against them (ie:http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-parking-dispute-verdictoct24,0,4761511.story) maybe, just maybe, you might get the contract that you truly deserve.
10/24/2009 01:16:00 PM
No offense to your pea brain, but take a simple dispute, turn it into a lawsuit and have a Crook county jury award $1.5mil of OUR tax money over some admittedly stupid shit. $1.5mil!
Send as many needy citizens as possible to his "public service office".
Ed is the hook-up for all kinds of free shit!!!!!
Ald. Ed Smith
28th Ward Public Service Office
259 N. Pulaski
(773)533-0900
Now serve your people Ed!
FUNNY THING IS SMITHS WARD IS IN 011.
HE HAS PLENTY OF TRU/NARCOTICS/CTA YADDA YADDA YADDA.
HE KNOWS ANY CUTS TO ANY MANPOWER WILL NOT HITS HIS WARD.
HIS VOTER HATES THE POLICE SO ALL HE NEEDS IS THE REV-RUNS TO LIKE HIM.
DA MAYOR DETEST SMITH BUT DEALS W/ HIM BECAUSE HE LEADS THE BLACK CAUCUS. (HEAD BLACK GUY IN CHARGE.)
Whats up with TRU unit? I hear 4 sargents put in par forms to go to districts. Could it be because of suckhole ryan? Maybew if he didnt give away the farm to every other unit and actually gave a shit about his own unit trhere wouldnt be such a mass exodus. P.O.s will be next. Mark my words.
You think 40 openings in 03 is bad, how about when 25% of your supervisors bid out of your unit to go back to the watch.
NOW THAT LOOKS BAD!!!!
Ever hear of spell check?
For your info jag bag, they are four north side sgt's who are not happy about having to drive to 61st and racine everyday, with no secure parking. Sorry you didn't get into TRU, but get your facts straight before you open your trap. Your about as smart as the moron talking about the sgt's getting caught with their pants down in 16, again they should get their facts straight, the Capt in 16 was a two-faced bit*& and the citizen was a retired p/o who has gotten tons of cr's on p/os.
10/25/2009 12:50:00 AM
I do work in TRU and Ryan IS a suckhole and a clown who walks around all day talking about his days in SOS. Hes a goof and these Sgts would gladly drive to 61/Racine but not to work for an idiot like him.
I love how people in Chicago defend the city by saying how wonderful it is and what a beautiful lakefront we have. It might take the jaws of life to remove your head from your ass. It's a dump, always has been, and always will be. Do your kids a favor and relocate to another state so they can enjoy their life and not be exposed to this shithole of a city.
Anonymous said...
no offense to the HONEST Men and Women in blue, but perhaps if the rest of the CPD could actually stop getting multi-million dollar lawsuits filed against them (ie:http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-parking-dispute-verdictoct24,0,4761511.story) maybe, just maybe, you might get the contract that you truly deserve.
10/24/2009 01:16:00 PM
No offense to your pea brain, but take a simple dispute, turn it into a lawsuit and have a Crook county jury award $1.5mil of OUR tax money over some admittedly stupid shit. $1.5mil!
your right, it was stupid shit. you officers do deserve a fair contract. no argument there.
Just tell your commerades do not help to contribute to the stupid shit. if you think the ticket was unfair, do what the rest of us do, CONTEST IT.
Anonymous said...
since aldercreatures already carry pistolas, lets give them a vest and let them handle some of the non-stop domestics in their wards..that would help me believe that they are earning their salaries.
10/25/2009 02:17:00 AM
Carry pistols but never qualified! They also have badges, now let them patrol there own "ghettos" especially ed smith that ghetto fab POS!
10/25/2009 10:13:00 AM
Good Grief, that's all we need. No way is that going to be good. Shot fired! Try to take a report for a known confirmed liar like that. Worse if there are any hits, a Lovey & Lovey paycheck.
If the alderman is hit he/she will be a hero and if killed a martyr another photo op for teary eyed Daley and his anti-Second Amendment plots.
"I be willing to bet if the city offered a test for new recruits that thousands would take it."
Really??? Highly doubtful, and you only get about 20% hireable people on ANY list, we need about 600-1000 per year on an average year, haven't hired more than a few hundred in thelast 3,4 years... catchup will be a bitch, we need about 30 -40,000 to apply to have alist up for more than a few years, that would get us 6-8.000 viable candidates... never gonna happen. Maybe we will have to start hiring immigrants...
Hey FOP get that TIF info out!! The arbitrator has to be aware of this!
Crooks will burn in hell in the afterlife. All fallen officers have their marshmallows ready!
Hey, alderman Ed, do you realize that you a big waste of taxpayers money ? FUCK YOU !!!!!
Anonymous said...
"I be willing to bet if the city offered a test for new recruits that thousands would take it."
Really??? Highly doubtful, and you only get about 20% hireable people on ANY list, we need about 600-1000 per year on an average year, haven't hired more than a few hundred in thelast 3,4 years... catchup will be a bitch, we need about 30 -40,000 to apply to have alist up for more than a few years, that would get us 6-8.000 viable candidates... never gonna happen. Maybe we will have to start hiring immigrants...
10/25/2009 06:39:00 PM
What do you mean START hiring immigrants? They have been hiring immigrants for a long time. Especially those from over the pond, the emerald isle, the auld sod. There are also Russian PO's, Indian, Pakistani, I met one Australian, several Arabs and numerous PO's from South America, Mexico and various other spanish speaking countries.
US citizenship is not required to be a Chicago PO.
ALDERMAN=PART-TIME JOB AT C.E.O. SALARY.WAKE UP CHICAGO.
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