PB&PA Officials Resign
Statement on the Sergeants Union website:
On 22 November, 2009, the Board of Directors of the Chicago Police Sergeant’s Association held a special meeting to discuss recent events effecting the organization. At the meeting the board took the following action:
- The Board accepted the resignation of John Pallohusky effective immediately.
- The Board accepted the resignation of Mary O’Toole effective immediately.
- Vice President Robert Kirchner has assumed the office of President immediately.
- Sgt John Stahl from the Inspection Division, who worked as an accountant before joining the Police Department, was appointed as Treasurer.
We know we have a lot of sergeants (and lieutenants, captains, gold stars and Mike Masters) reading the blog and we are as sickened as they are that fellow cops could even be accused of perfidy like this.
We also stand by our previous statement that J-Fed's comparison of the accused as "Bernie Madoff" is misguided at best...
We also stand by our previous statement that J-Fed's comparison of the accused as "Bernie Madoff" is misguided at best...
- Madoff stole around $18 billion from ten or more thousand people, ruining countless lives. This sergeant stole dues money from 1,200 fellow cops, not retirement nest eggs
...and prejudicial to a potential jury pool at worst...
- Madoff ruined lives from coast-to-coast and was rightly painted as a monster.
Those commentators ripping us for making part of this story about J-Fed's inappropriate statements must not remember he is supposed to be the Superintendent of Police, not the State's Attorney, not the Judge and certainly not the jury. Even Shortshanks has had sense enough to keep his mouth shut about this one.
Labels: corruption
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
87 Comments:
The PB&PA Chicago Police Sergeant's Association will be completely "legit" from this day forward. Trust us.
I thought you were 110 right on this SCC. I don't always think your right.
"Even Shortshanks has had sense enough to keep his mouth shut about this one.
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM on Nov 23, 2009"
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Shanks hasn't finished programing J-Fed yet. He'll get Masters on his ass first thing in the am.
This quick move doesn't fair well on JP's behalf. I understand the Sgt's Associations position of restoring trust but they are saying that JP is guilty by this move.
Some of our own are running for political positions and need our support.
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Please vote for him so he can stop crying to the Commander about how he doesn't understand why nobody likes him.
He might not have a shot at winning, but hopefully if he gets enough of your votes, upper-management will be dumb enough to give him a Gold star. Thank you.
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Yes that is true first poster but the reality is everyone has expectations of people in high positions to not respond with utter stupidity, to try and find a way of expressing there opinions in a way that does not make a hurting department look even worst. No matter how much anyone tries to justify his actions, he knows as well as all of us on CPD that he is a very poor and ineffective leader, his time has beyond wore out, we need to move forward for this city's sake and as long as he is here, this department will lay stagnant.
Us street cops realize that we have to live here and raise our families. It is also clear that he will be running with his 1 million plus dollars as we all try and figure out how to pay the mortgage, tuition and any family entertainment/leisure time what-so-ever after he is gone. Our numbers are not better because of him. I would like to know ANY original idea/initiative that Superintendent Jodi Weis has brought to Chicago! Just please name ONE!
Please find one that Chief of Staff Michael Masters has brought with his law degree and inexperience in urban communities. Find one that Assistant Superintendent Cuello has brought. As a matter of fact, just list one test she got promoted from? List her arrests! She has been on for more than 20years and does not have 20 arrests in her entire CPD history and she is 3rd in Command! Lets move on to Lucy Moy, Judith Martin, Nick Roti, Constantine Andrews or Penelope Trahanas!
I am by no means attemtping to dog our Exempt members, but Jfed got rid of CPD's history! He then brought Federal agents in, put them in key positions and began on a path of destruction. He has set this department back at least 50 years. I will be retired after 15 Jan 10. God bless you and your families. The best advise I can give you is to make it safely home to your families each night and leave this city as soon as you can. Hell, we can't afford the property taxes anyway now can we Daley?
"We know we have a lot of sergeants (and lieutenants, captains, gold stars and Mike Masters) reading the blog and we are as sickened as they are that fellow cops could even be accused of perfidy like this."
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, COULDN'T HAPPEN TO A BETTER BUNCH.
MOST I'VE SPOKEN TO FIND IT PRETTY HILARIOUS. BET HE PAYS IT ALL BACK& DOESN'T SPEND ANY MORE TIME IN JAIL OTHER THAN THE 3 DAYS WAITING FOR HIS BOND HEARING
Bernie Madoff??? How witty! Almost as humorous as Stage IV pancreatic cancer. Book the cocksucker at Zanies on Wells St.
Typical WEISel hyperbole. He is such a despicable sadist.
And a few harmless Cozzi pimp slaps of a disruptive mutt with optimum results was the "most egregious brutality" this clueless jagoff ever saw?
A tune-up, a wood shampoo or a good old fashioned West Side beatdown would put this pussy into massive cardiac arrest.
The crucifixion of Bill Cozzi will remain the defining moment of his tenure.
fuck this pollohusky guy--- gambling problem or wife being ill does not give you an excuse to commit the crimes you are accused of--- being a detective you should know that you never shit where you sleep.... where did his wife get the 25,000 to bail him out of jail--- 10-1 odds it was pulled out of a shoe box stashed in their home in case this happened--- so now the sgt's get double fucked--- not only was this guy stealing the fund blind, but they are now paying his bail.....
Whoa! A previous comment mentioned that the head of IPRA is in our pension. Is that true? WTF? WTF? I can't be at the meeting tomorrow, but can someone please bring that up? Jesus Christ already.
LETS DECERTIFY THE PBPA
Employees who no longer want a union to represent them — whether it's because the union is undemocratic, corrupt, violent, or just plain inept — are entitled to seek an election to determine if a majority of their coworkers wants to drop the union. Such elections, conducted by the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB), are known as "decertification elections." They are not rare -- several hundred take place in a typical year.
Employees who want to vote a union out have to circulate a petition calling for a decertification election. A sample petition is available below. They should not seek help from their employer, because the union can then complain that an unfair labor practice has tainted the election. Employees may take advantage of outside assistance, though. Signatures should be collected on non-work time and in non-work areas. It is important that the names of the union and the company be filled in before any signatures are collected.
It doesn't matter why the employees are dissatisfied. But there are some timing issues that are important. The NLRB has a rule that a new union is given one year to represent the workers before a decertification election can be held. Unions that have already negotiated a contract for employees can usually be subjected to a decertification election near the expiration of the contract. Therefore, workers with an old union should start their decertification drive a few months prior to the expiration of their contract to be sure they don't miss their window of opportunity.
If at least 30 percent of the workers in the bargaining unit sign the petition, then it must be sent to the NLRB's closest regional office, along with a cover sheet, NLRB Form 502. Once the petitions have been received and validated, the NLRB will set a date for the decertification election, usually about 60 days in the future. Individuals on both sides may campaign to sway the employees. When the vote is held, if a majority of the workers who participate favor decertifying the union, or if the vote results in a tie, then the NLRB will officially remove the union's recognition as the bargaining representative of the workers.
Too little, too late!
Can one person here tell me why the feds aren't investigating this?
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Who says they're not?
Throw state charges on him now, and federal charges might come later, if warranted. Just depends on the circumstances of what he did or didn't do.
Yep, as Supt. he should minimize the damage, not exacerbate the issue. But then again, he's a fucking asshole, so what can you expect?
---not a cop
Why wouldn't they all resign. If any of the existing Executive Board members knew the President and Treasurer had a dating relationship they should all quit or be fired. Save everyone the emabarrassment. Please. You are all incompetent. The city will look at all of you at future negotiations as weak, STUPID, and not a threat because you let the thefts go on for so long and it will appear the current membership doesn't care because you are still there. Please do the right thing and ALL Boatd member resign immediately!
No I'm with you on this. A cowardly statement by an apparently cowardly man. You would hope being a former S.A.C. and the Superintendent of thie fine department he would have the class and dignity to say the accusations are horrible and we'll now let justice take it's course. Instead he made a very lame attempt to grandstand and, in doing so, once again confirmed that he is no Chicago Police OFficer and an absolute failure as a leader of men and women. If he had an ounce of self dignity left he would resign and move on. Unfortunately the man apparently has no moral compass or shame. Jody Weis is our boss in name only. He has absolutely zero respect from his peers or employess and is easily the worst law enforcement official in the United States
Plans are being made as this is written. I cannot go into too much detail, but it would be safe to say that the entire board will probably be impeached. The National chapter WILL be involved. The local PBPA may be decertified and if all goes as planned others will join John Pallohusky with handcuffs on their wrists. Unfortunately Mr. Kirchner and others in the PBPA do not have enough spin control to fix this mess. The damage is done and a very large investigation is underway. Stay tuned for the fallout!
So who did JP court at Gibson's? Did Jody go to dinner with him, Don O', Debra K? Inquiring minds want to know who partook of the cash spigot at PBPA. I so think JP is going to muddy the waters at trial. Could he have kept receipts of those meetings and taken notes? OOOOH...this is going to be delicious! And who else ran in his 'high roller' circle?
How did JP resign? Did they visit him in the County? As of Monday morning he was still in custody. Also if JP and MO did nothing wrong as THEY claim, why are they resigning? If these two did in fact resign, all PBPA officials should resign including all the area directors. I mean everyone!
Anonymous said...
Plans are being made as this is written. I cannot go into too much detail, but it would be safe to say that the entire board will probably be impeached. The National chapter WILL be involved. The local PBPA may be decertified and if all goes as planned others will join John Pallohusky with handcuffs on their wrists. Unfortunately Mr. Kirchner and others in the PBPA do not have enough spin control to fix this mess. The damage is done and a very large investigation is underway. Stay tuned for the fallout!
11/23/2009 07:44:00 AM
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There is no national chapter of the PB&PA. The highest it goes is the PB&PA of Illinois. That organization is a member of NAPO (an unbrella group, not a true national organization comparable to the FOP).
Weis is in need of "headlines" to make himself look good! Plain and simple! I don't think anyone is going to consider suicide like some did after Madoff's scam!
The entire Board of the CPSA and their attorney should be replaced as soon as possible in order to restore somedegree of confidence..otherwise a group of sergeants could start decerification process....
The comments made by weis are typical of that federal moron and should be ignored......
The most obvious questions to the board of the cpsa: where was oversight? when was last audit? did the Board attorney ever address conflict of interest in having president and treasurer married/dating whatever?
why didn't the finsecy require an audit or add a third signature to checks or monitor credit card statements?????
This travesty could lead to dissolution of cpsa and destroy years of hardwork by those who came before.
jjthulis
former president
cpsa
Anonymous said...
Please do the right thing and ALL Boatd member resign immediately!
11/23/2009 07:16:00 AM
If that happened there'd only be old retired guys at the meetings.
Please let this have a tie to our mayor! PLEASE!
I agree everybody should be out. My question is over how long of a time frame has this went on? Lastly it's time we get ride of this clown Attorney Kuzas.
I heard Jody is angling to replace Oprah in a talk show with Matsers as his sidekick. It will be Jody cracking stupid one liners and Masters laughing hysterically at them. It will be a must watch.
Lest we forget why DaMare's handler was brought in. WEISsel has dedicated his entire career to catch the "bad" guy just like he did for the FBI..oh and keep DaMare updated on any future indictments!
All PBPA officials should resign including all the area directors. I mean everyone!
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The only problem is who would run the union??
The Bylaws (PBPA and FOP) state that P.O.s/Sgts/Lts/Capts who wish to run for a position need to attend AT LEAST HALF the general meetings a year.
In the FOP there are plenty of people who attend meetings.
Only a handful of regulars out of 1280 sergeants show up to meetings.
I KNOW FOR A FACT that many of these sergeants on the board would be more than happy to step down. Being a board member is a THANKLESS JOB and IS NOT WORTH THE BULLSHIT.
Sergeant board members DO NOT get $400.00 a month like the FOP trustees get.
I suggest IF YOU REALLY care .. push yourself way from your computer and come to meetings
. . . run for a position in the next election.
Stay in involved and make POSITIVE changes . .
just don't hide behind a computer and bitch like an old lady DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!
SCC, you guys are great keep up the work.
LETS DECERTIFY THE PBPA
Employees who no longer want a union to represent them . . [decertify] . . several hundred take place in a typical year.
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NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
That would be a $10,000 mistake!!!!
If a union is decertified THE CURRENT CONTRACT is void and null.
The city WILL NEVER let us have the 200 hour comp-time sell back.
City negotiators have made that admission in the past. They 'fucked up' in letting us have that benifit.
GO TO GENERAL MEETINGS!!!!!!!!
Attend a least half the meeting and run for a board spot.
Whether we are FOP, PBPA its the same "ballgame" . . .
it is CHICAGO POLICE OFFICERS RUNNING THE BOARD!!!!
Just make sure the best officers are elected.
By the way .. we would be FUCKED if an "outfit" like the Teamsters took over.
PLEASE SSC.. make this a post.. DO NOT TALK ABOUT DECERTIFYING ANY OF OUR UNIONS.
Plans are being made as this is written. I cannot go into too much detail, but it would be safe to say that the entire board will probably be impeached. The National chapter WILL be involved. The local PBPA may be decertified and if all goes as planned others will join John Pallohusky with handcuffs on their wrists. Unfortunately Mr. Kirchner and others in the PBPA do not have enough spin control to fix this mess. The damage is done and a very large investigation is underway. Stay tuned for the fallout!
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1.) There is NO ONE else involved.
2.) This thing is so FUCKING COMPLICATED no one can find $600,000 not to mention a dime missing.. it was only shuffled around and “played with” according to some insiders on the department.
Perhaps only money laundering charges will stick.
J-Fed was so hungry FUCK a copper not to mention a POLICE UNION PRESIDENT the entire investigation was only a week old.
Looks like J-FED FUCKED HIMSELF!!!!
3.) There is NO National Chapter .. the PBPA is an Illinois operation. (Not a great one at that.
4.) The PBPA cannot decertify a local unit.. THEY WOULD NEVER ask to get rid of the sergeants unit because they have almost 1300 members full strength and bring in a shitload of money to the PBPA.
5.) Pallohusky had no power to write checks for the PBPA/Springfield office.
"LETS DECERTIFY THE PBPA"
Are you flipping crazy?
The problem isn't with the Union structure or the PBPA- it's that we-the members were asleep at the wheel- we elect people but most sgts don't go to meetings-or know the candidates. We choose blindly!
We need to be accountable for our own negligence- in electing people without much knowledge of who they are- or even if they are married to each other.
The board members we elected- that we chose- need to answer our questions - who knew what and how much?
They need to answer for being just as blind as the sgts who elected them are.
Everyone is surprised when stuff like this happens-but rarely do the people who are outraged or who are calling for 'decertification' willing or able to step up to the plate and ead or contribute.
My prediction- you'll all show up and express your outrage in December but in January or February- you'll be too busy with your life, to tired or whatever excuse you'll have-to go to a meeting and find out how the Union is sorting out this mess.
Decertification is the last thing we need to deal with now, expecially in the middle of negotiations.
Do you really think the FOP or the Teamsters are more honest? Make better decisions? Are less prone to corruption?
Get a clue!
Hold the people who knew accountable- elect better representation - run for office yourself-get you ass to a meeting and find out first hand what's going on.
Decertification is a complete waste of money and time. Fix what we have and show up!
Here's something to think about! If the PBPA didnt miss $600,000 which is probably on the low end, they could have taken $100,000 or even $150,000 and hired some professional negotiators for their contract instead of policeman. Just think about that and run with it.
MEDIA STATES: Judge held John Pallohusky in CC jail until funds that are to be posted for bond are verified as clean money. WTF. We all have seen the courts let Drug dealers post large sums of cash for bond when no one in the family has ever seen a job. Funds should always be verified in certain cases.
Anonymous said...
Plans are being made as this is written. I cannot go into too much detail, but it would be safe to say that the entire board will probably be impeached. The National chapter WILL be involved. The local PBPA may be decertified and if all goes as planned others will join John Pallohusky with handcuffs on their wrists. Unfortunately Mr. Kirchner and others in the PBPA do not have enough spin control to fix this mess. The damage is done and a very large investigation is underway. Stay tuned for the fallout!
11/23/2009 07:44:00 AM
Getting all this on your tin-foil extra special antenna hat are you?
The 600K figure is the amount that investigators KNOW to be pilfered. If I were a gambling man (that's for you, JP!) I'd say much, much more has been skimmed. I can't wait for the actual amount to be disclosed during the goings on.
Uh excuse me?
Where do I set up these extra desks and computers?
Signed
the Custodian at 2111 w. Lexington or Unit 376...
Anonymous said...
Can one person here tell me why the feds aren't investigating this?
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Who says they're not?
Throw state charges on him now, and federal charges might come later, if warranted. Just depends on the circumstances of what he did or didn't do.
11/23/2009 06:23:00 AM
And then the beady eyed banjo player comes in and says, "...remember COZZI!!!" and hands it all over to his Fed friends...mmmm hhmmmm...and dat ain't no hibbity jibbity!!!
Don't know the people, however, you all are quickly making them guilty and throwing them under the bus, just like j-fart and the media. Whatever happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty? Time will certainly tell!!!
sergeants will lose 45 min a day and bullsh-- overtime checks in arbitration none of them work over 8 hours
maybe we can get a raise
where did j-fed come from? mayberry? he has a little dramaqueen in him.
C'mon guys! Just increase his expense account to cover the "misunderstandings," the Chicago Way.
11/23/2009 01:15:00 PM
If you think this is a big conspiracy on the part of J-Fed to "fuck" a copper, you need to be drug tested.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but JP was hosing the membership and stole a shitload of money. We'll be lucky to get any of it back from his remaining assets.
A big "FUCK YOU JP" is in order.
If you try to decertify your contract is void, even if it is expired. You would have to renegotiate for your .75 hrs a day, 200 hrs sell back, Sgt's quarterly, 25 v-day. If any of you think you will get any of those back from the city you are wrong. Furthermore, the city would love for you to get rid of your bargaining agent in the middle of contract negotiations. Think about this.
Let's not throw this guy under the bus yet. If it is determined that he did do this then get the bus. So far there is only media hype to support this accusation.
Hey, 11/23/2009 05:02 AM:
All your gobbledy-gook about the NLRB is just that! Police officers' right to unionize is not found in the National Labor Relations Act; it is from the IL Peace Officers Collective Bargaining Act. The NLRA defines "employer" to exclude any public sector employee:
The term "employer" includes any person acting as an agent of an employer, directly or indirectly, but shall not include the United States or any wholly owned Government corporation, or any Federal Reserve Bank, or any State or political subdivision thereof, or any person subject to the Railway Labor Act [45 U.S.C. § 151 et seq.], as amended from time to time, or any labor organization (other than when acting as an employer), or anyone acting in the capacity of officer or agent of such labor organization.
Talk of decertification at a time when there is an expired contract is very hazardous to any of the benefits found in that contract. Perhaps the replacement of the entire board is appropriate here, but be very leery of decertifying the body that holds the signature in our behalf on a contract.
Don't go around spouting off when you don't even have the facts right. I'm sure you've heard of the saying - a LITTLE knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Pallohusky and Otoole have been dating since she was PPO and he was her FTO 18 years ago in 15. Plenty of people knew this and they were still elected. He and she were lying cheating scumbags then and still are to this day. They were married only recently to aquire spousal priviledge so she can not legally testify against him. How did they get elected if they were dating well before they were Sgt? Beuller? Beuller?
10-1 odds it was pulled out of a shoe box stashed in their home in case this happened--- so now the sgt's get double fucked--- not only was this guy stealing the fund blind, but they are now paying his bail.....
11/23/2009 02:49:00 AM
Incorrect. The bail money is not coming from a shoebox. It is coming from two independent sources which are currently being cleared as legit- this has to be proved to the court before his release. This is still in process.
So far there is only media hype to support this accusation.
11/23/2009 07:12:00 PM
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And that pesky little resignation of both accused, but don't let that play into your kneejerk defense of the thieves.
Being a lt for over 10 years I found this news not that shocking. Most sergeants cannot supervise a fish tank so failing to supervise their bargaining association does not bring alarm.
I always stayed with FOP for greater legal protection and national recognition.
Hey John,
Where's my FUCKING money?
Plans are being made as this is written.........to keep your insane crazy self-important ass off this blog.
Being a lt for over 10 years I found this news not that shocking. Most sergeants cannot supervise a fish tank so failing to supervise their bargaining association does not bring alarm.
Being a Sgt for over 13 years I find that Lt's who think they are better than everyone else are fucking numbnuts!
I just keep thinking of how we all tore into the guy who "beat the busdriver" then we saw video and not nearly soon enough.
The Board has announced that there will be a special general membership meeting held on 17 December, 2009, at 1800 hours to review these matters.
Robert Kirchner
President
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Thanks Bob! We'll see you at the meeting on the 17th where we'll accept your resignation for not doing your job as 1st Vice President.
As a retired police officer, and a retired Sergeant I find this situation) regarding the Sergeant's Association disgusting. The thought of this man stealing from his fellow officers is beyond as low as a person can go. Let's be blunt here, the Sergeant's Associaton has been a "joke" since its conception. The previous President and Board, had the nerve to build a "hall" similiar to FOP. This was done without any vote of the body, why because they could. All present members of the Association, should resign immediately, or should be forced to resing by the present membership. They are responsible, and should have know what was going on, (or they did know)????? I laugh everytime I receive/ and look at their newsletter, my five year old niece could write a more comprehensible and include relevant newsworthy information. Think about it all you ever see are the same photos of all the Board Members, on trips to wherever!!!!!!!!!! Nice Job! Also on another note, bravo for bringing to light just how many of these "exempt" have been promoted "meritorious" their entire career! Ok one meritorious(hell I would have accepted that) but your entire career!!!!
And that pesky little resignation of both accused, but don't let that play into your kneejerk defense of the thieves.
11/23/2009 10:44:00 PM
You are a fucking idiot. Use common fucking sense. They were stripped of their police powers and have to focus on legal proceedings. You call them thieves? Hey numb nuts I dunno if u heard. An Audit has been made and get this . . .NOT ONE FUCKING PENNY IS MISSING!!! At the same time NOT ONE FUCKING PENNY HAS BEEN MISAPPROPRIATED, meaning, NOTHING shows the that he "borrowed money" and returned it. The only thing their question is why were they moving money from one acct. to the other. As if u never moved money from say a Checking acct to a savings acct. There are 4 accounts for the Sgts. Union. For all we know the money was being moved around to make sure sufficient funds were in the accounts to pay the bills.
And again. The Sgt. Union has not "pressed charges" So there is no complaint from them because they can't find nothing to try to press charges on. You might say cover up but independent Auditors have looked at it and found NOTHING. The books are always audited yearly as the bylaws state and nothing has ever been found.
You're no worst than the fucking scumbag media shitting on your own. Assuming he's guilty without knowing any of the fact other than what u hear on the news. You deserve a big FU for not waiting for all the facts to come out before jumping to conclusions. I hope the same shit happens to you because Karma can be a bitch when u see who's your true friends and have your back!
People talk abt. conspiracy theories, ever wonder why there's a possibility the city is going after him hard. Aside from his over 5 lawsuits won against the city. The fact that he refuses to be a "yes man" to the fucking city. The fact that he was adamant to NOT ACCEPT the cities proposal for a pay freeze until 2012. By him being the face of the Sgts. union, is it possible shortshanks feels that he cost the city over $100 Million?
When I say $100 million think of it for a sec. your talking abt, the fact
A. If the Sgts win in arbitration as it looks like it's heading. Your talking abt over $1mill in retro not including the annual pay increases in the yrs. to come. Your talking abt an avg increase of 4% annually at the end totaling abt. 16% of their current salaries multiply that by 1200+ Sgts that.s millions there alone not the $100 Million as I stated but but in the millions.
B. AND THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF IT. Aren't the FOP going arbitration in January?? Now think of this the argument by the FOP is that everyone else got a payraise. That other departments all over the U.S. also received pay raises. Correct?
Now if the city was able to get the Sgts. Union to Agree to its terms wouldn't that have put a HUGE wrench in the arbitration hearing? Where the city would claim "Hey look the Sgts. association, who are Police Officers superiors didn't get a pay raise why should those that serve under them get it?"
As a retired police officer, and a retired Sergeant I find this situation) regarding the Sergeant's Association disgusting. The thought of this man stealing from his fellow officers is beyond as low as a person can go. Let's be blunt here, the Sergeant's Associaton has been a "joke" since its conception. The previous President and Board, had the nerve to build a "hall" similiar to FOP. This was done without any vote of the body, why because they could. All present members of the Association, should resign immediately, or should be forced to resign by the present membership. They are responsible, and should have known what was going on, (or they did know)????? I laugh everytime I receive/ and look at their newsletter, my five year old niece could write a more comprehensible,and include relevant newsworthy information. Think about it all you ever see are the same photos of all the Board Members, on trips to wherever!!!!!!!!!! Nice Job! Also on another note, bravo for bringing to light just how many of these "exempt" have been promoted "meritorious" their entire career! Ok one meritorious(hell I would have accepted that) but your entire career!!!!
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Ever think that Daley realizes they might be fucked this arbitration hearing? That just maybe that he saw that it's possible that if you discredit the President, whom he can't stand, And which we all know DALEY ASKED AGAIN FOR A RE-VOTE ON THE PROPOSAL. He get's his way and ultimately has what he thinks is a precedent to prove that P.O's shouldn't get a raise. So to the administration, discrediting JP, and stirring up trouble. And ultimately trying to force the Sgts. Association to cave in before members call for it's disbandment might just be his ultimate plan.
You disband the union, all the benefits you once had ARE GONE!!! And to him if not that. And if you don't disband, he's hoping for an irrational acceptance. Because he want's you all to think your fucked. So you tell me conspiracy theory or not. Can you see how it just might be possible that To Daley the paranoid shit bag. Thinking thinking that it was Pallohusky who cost him over $100 million with fact he was the voice who refused to cave. and he lost his would be precedent against the FOP.
He just might have purposely tried to make an example by Pallohusky by jumping the gun. with his Mickey Mouse 3 week investigation? And this all comes to light (announced) 2 days aft. SCC posted the video of Michael Scott. And 1 day aft. putting out there the hot seat questions abt. Weis and Masters trying to pay into the pension and on top of the the so called Negotiations taking place for Weis to get an extension? Hasn't the routine always been. When the attention is bad on us . . .SHIT ON THE POLICE.
You all should know better than to jump to conclusion without waiting to hear all the facts. It makes you no better than the scum that reports this shit.
Again don't forget an audit has been done AND NOTHING I REPEAT NOTHING!!!!! HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE MISSING!!!!
Karma can be a bitch, just make sure you're not ACCUSED of doing something in the future!!!
To my fellow sergeants, slow down and take a breath. Talk of desertification now is hazardous to current contract negotiations. There is no need to rush. Now I have no inside information on JP so all I'll say is let the investigation continue and let him have his day in court. As for the other board members, we all share in the responsibility. I for one, have never been to a union meeting. These guys give of their time and we should be thankful. In the future we need to expect more effort put forth on job related issues, taking on Mayor Daley, and less on cruises and gold outings. We need to unite and not splinter off into a bunch of clicks. So I'm asking all my fellow sergeants to take time and think and try to make it to the next meeting so we can decide what is in all our best interest. We did so with a resounding FU on the last contract offer and we can do it again.
Be safe
Sgt Dennis O'Brien
Being a lt for over 10 years I found this news not that shocking. Most sergeants cannot supervise a fish tank so failing to supervise their bargaining association does not bring alarm.
I always stayed with FOP for greater legal protection and national recognition.
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Huh ???????????????
Hey lieutenant....
You stayed with the FOP by paying $60.00 a year????
Listen pal.. that means you are just a FRATERNAL member.
You are NOT in their legal defense plan!
I would think that a Lieutenant of Police would know better!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Stupid me.. there I go thinking again!
The Illinois Public Labor Relations Act governs public-sector unions in Illinois. The NLRB does not have standing regarding Illinois public-sector employees. Any decertification process would have to be handled through the Illinois Labor Relations Board.
The PB&PA does not have a national chapter. Its supervisory body is the state PB&PA. Sean Smooth is the leader of the state PB&PA.
I strongly urge PB&PA members consider the potential ramifications of decertification. It is not utopian. I realize members may feel disinfranchised, however it is paramount members have confidence in the Board of Dirs.
The real problem with the union is retired Sergeant Jim Cosgrove, the financial secretary. Great job looking out for the membership.
Well, shortshanks can't throw stones out of his glass house.
Anonymous said...
Being a lt for over 10 years I found this news not that shocking. Most sergeants cannot supervise a fish tank so failing to supervise their bargaining association does not bring alarm.
I always stayed with FOP for greater legal protection and national recognition.
11/23/2009 10:44:00 PM
And who supervises the sergeants if not the lieutenants? Face it, there is a complete breakdown in the supervisory ranks at all levels in the Chicago Police Department now. If supervisors are not engaged in outright corruption and thievery then they are busy with the minor everyday sort of corruption of leaving early to go to their second jobs.
The whole damn thing (CPD) is a sordid stinking mess and 100 Jody Weis's couldn't straighten it out.
And that good old CPD that so many here wax nostalgic over as "the greatest job on earth" and the "real mutha fuckin poleese" was in reality riddled with corruption way past the likes of William Hanhardt. The place has been riddled with thieves, scoundrels and bag men for so long it is proving extremely difficult to straighten out. I'll be gone soon, good luck all with that police thing.
What lost money? I'm happy to see Pookie had the wisdom and investing acumen to buy in Wildwood! All you turkeys in Mt. Greenwood and Beverly must be green (and white and orange) with envy! We'll get our money back with divedends-esspecially after he sells the ski chalet's he owns in Innsbruck and Breckenridge!
Being a lt for over 10 years I found this news not that shocking. Most sergeants cannot supervise a fish tank so failing to supervise their bargaining association does not bring alarm.
Merit hack
"...Most sergeants cannot supervise a fish tank..."
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Please, Lt., tell me how to supervise a fish tank! Where the hell did you pull that little folksy phrase out of? Are you Gomer Pyle?
I shoulda' been a fireman, damnit, just a few bucks more to the alderman and I would be riding a nice big red fire truck now. Damn, danm damn.
If he/she deposited checks made payable to the union or for union activities into his/her own personal checking or savings account and the account activity shows that the money was spent for personal means/enrichment, it is highly plausible that there was theft activity from (victim)union members.
If there was movement or transfer of union funds in his/her personal accounts and these monies were then used for personal means/enrichment, it is highly plausible that there was theft activity from the (victim) union members.
You're going to see offenders "dismiss" this activity as "borrowing", non-intentional, etc.
The union must hire a forensic accountant to look at the union's account(s)activity for at least the past five years to present. Don't be cheap, have it done professionally.
Hey lieutenant....
You stayed with the FOP by paying $60.00 a year????
Listen pal.. that means you are just a FRATERNAL member.
You are NOT in their legal defense plan!
I would think that a Lieutenant of Police would know better!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Stupid me.. there I go thinking again!
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CORRECT, $60 for some stickers, an FOP book and a newsletter. You cannot even vote on issues in the FOP as a "fraternal member." And you are a LT??
As a retired police officer, and a retired Sergeant I find this situation) regarding the Sergeant's Association disgusting.
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Did you ever run for a board member spot? Did you even bother to go to general meetings????
NO?
Then shut the fuck up if you didn't try to make any changes.
The real problem with the union is retired Sergeant Jim Cosgrove, the financial secretary. Great job looking out for the membership.
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You think Jim Cosgrove retired?
Once again, you are just another stupid cop who doesn't know whats going on.
BY THE WAY.. why don't all of you "know it all assholes" read the Union By-Laws instead of continuing to spout off stupid shit!
www.chicagosergeants.org/constitutionbylaws.pdf
And a few harmless Cozzi pimp slaps of a disruptive mutt with optimum results was the "most egregious brutality" this clueless jagoff ever saw?
The result is a guy spending time in the federal penn with a felony conviction that will haunt him the rest of his life. Not exactly an optimum result.
A tune-up, a wood shampoo or a good old fashioned West Side beatdown would put this pussy into massive cardiac arrest.
More behaviors that will just get some stupid copper in jail. Do you not get it? It is 2009, not 1959. The public at large just does not accept the need for this kind of street justice anymore. Nothing else really matters. If you cannot control yourself so that you behave in a way that is acceptable in 2009, you need to seriously consider whether a change in jobs is in order. Its just the way things are, and its not going to go back to the way it was 50 years ago. Btter to find a different job than end up in the penn.
OVER A MILLION!
AND NOBODY ON THE BOARD BLINKED!
U TURKEYS BEST QUIT UR POST BEFORE U GET INDICTED.....
I ALWAYS LIKED THE WORD MALFEASANCE
LOOK IT UP PBPA U WERE VOTED TO SERVE THE WHITE SHIRTS NOT TO GO ON GOLF OUTING AND THROW PARTIES.
JUST GOES TO SHOW U THIS DICKWEEDS HAVE NO SHAME!!
FOP INVITE THE SGT'S BACK THEY NEED ARE HELP BAD...
SO HOW DOES A COURT PROVE CASH IS LEGIT?
U CANT...
LET SAY THE GOOD SGT'S WIFE (TREASURER) IS STILL FREE SHE KNOW S WHERE THE SHOE BOXES ARE OR WHAT ACCOUNT IS IN MOMS NAME.
SHE FINDS HER RICH LAWYER FRIEND WHO HAS CASH IN THE BANK AND BEG FOR THEM TO PAY.
SHE HANDS THE LAWYER CASH AND THE DEAL IS ALL GOOD.
THE COUNTY IS JUST SHOW BOATING!
WHEN IS MS TREASURER GETTING HER OWN SET OF CUFFS!
Why is it the President and Treasurer of the union were married but maintain separate residences? Was this a marriage of convenience? A marriage so the treasurer couldn't be compelled to testify against her "husband?" Sounds almost like a phony green card wedding.
Gallows Vet said...
Some of our own are running for political positions and need our support.
www.johnnyboyg.isabackstabbingloser.com
Please vote for him so he can stop crying to the Commander about how he doesn't understand why nobody likes him.
He might not have a shot at winning, but hopefully if he gets enough of your votes, upper-management will be dumb enough to give him a Gold star. Thank you.
Paid for by the Sir Donkey Foundation.
11/23/2009 12:53:00 AM
Kind of humorous that this was posted by "Gallows Era Vet", since old John was a "frequent flier" in there! He was in there almost as much as Jethro! Some of those old Gallows-issues would make some good campaign fliers!
- A fellow Gallows Era Vet...
It has bben a long time since I was a Sergeant, plus I am now retired for over 10 years, but this whole thing is really disturbing. First the fact that it may have happened as described, and second that everyone is in a sharklike feeding frenzy. I really think you should relax and wait for the facts to come out. As I understand it the investigation only lasted a couple of weeks, red flag #1; the G never got involved, although they may, red flag #2 and finally the amount of at least 600K or maybe 1 mil. Since somewhere arond 760k comes in every year, it seems impossible that amount would go unnoticed. This really could be a terrible mistake, or it may involve him and her borrowing from the treasury and paying the money back. Still impro0er, but not anywhere near as serious.
Something isn't right.
[From: www.pbpa.org]
MESSAGE FROM THE PBPA of Illinois EXECUTIVE BOARD
November 23rd 2009
The Executive Board of the PB&PA of Illinois regrets to inform you that Financial Secretary John Pallohusky, the
President of the Chicago Police Sergeants' Association, Unit 156A, was charged Friday with one count each of felony
theft and money laundering involving the funds of his local unit.
Despite the internal safeguards in place to protect State Association funds, upon learning of Pallohusky’s arrest, and in
an effort to be exceedingly cautious, we immediately conducted an internal audit of our accounts. We also requested that
our outside accounting firm review all transactions since our last financial audit. No discrepancies were found.
To be clear – while John Pallohusky served on the State Executive Board
he has never had access to or been a signatory for, any of the PB&PA of
Illinois bank accounts. None of the allegations against him involve State
Association finances.
The following is a summary of the information that we have at this time.
It bears noting that allegations are just that – allegations. As police officers we all know things that are reported in the
press often turn out to be far different than the truth. According to news reports, in August, a bank “flagged” suspicious
bank transactions involving Pallohusky and the Sergeants’ Association accounts. The Chicago Police Department was
subsequently alerted and an investigation was launched. He was arrested at home Friday morning and is expected to
post bond sometime Monday.
Pallohusky's wife, Mary O'Toole, is Treasurer of the Chicago Police Sergeants' Association. She has not been charged
with wrongdoing. According to statements attributed to his attorney, Pallohusky insists he did not misappropriate any
money. Attorneys who work for the PB&PA are not representing John Pallohusky or Mary O’Toole regarding this matter.
Members of the State Executive Board are both shocked and saddened by the allegations. The State Association
remains committed to the members of Unit 156A and stands prepared to assist them through this unfortunate ordeal in
any way possible.
As a result of the arrest, on Sunday, November 22, 2009, the Board of Directors of the Chicago Police Sergeant’s
Association held an emergency meeting to discuss these events and their impact on the Chicago Sergeants’
organization. PB&PA of Illinois’ Chief Counsel, Sean Smoot, was present to advise Unit 156A’s Board of Directors
during the meeting.
Being a lt for over 10 years I found this news not that shocking. Most sergeants cannot supervise a fish tank so failing to supervise their bargaining association does not bring alarm.
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I'll tell you what you fucking pimp, you wouldn't have the guts to say that to a Sgts face would you. No we are all not perfect, but try doing your job without us. You a field Lt? Ok keep passing shit down to us or up to the WC. Or maybe you are a Tact Lt? Ok blame the team Sgts for everything when all you do is go to a couple of meetings a week, and drive your kids to school in the company car you jagoff. Or maybe you are one of those Lts in HQ-supervising 1 Sgt and 4 PO's, while the working Lts can't get time, or get shifted from district to district so you 100 primadonnas in HQ can have a 5 day week.
So pull the deputy's rod out of your ass, and shove those ten years where the sun don't shine.
You know, I just got home from 30 N. LaSalle (that's the corp counsel in case you've never been sued)giving a deposition for a case in which I'm a defendant. Therefore, since I'm a defendant, in the minds of many of you on here I am guilty. I am not privy to the investigation and I'm guessing most of you are not as well. But just as many of you did when Sgt O'Grady was falsely accused of beating a CTA bus driver, you already have JP tried and convicted. I know I've even jumped to conclusions based on reports instead of facts. So I guess shame on all of us. Unlike many of his supporters here I don't like JP personally. I think he is more into being one of the boys then taking care of the PBBA Members. And I've told him such. But he is still entitled to due process and a full investigation. Many of you just play into Daley's hands, whether he is behind this or not. I once read, "united we stand divided we fall." Maybe we all need to reflect on that phrase a bit..
Sgt Dennis O'Brien
11/24/2009 12:57:00 AM
You are wrong on several points. The "Union" has no idea what it has because JP was the "Union"! I understand being loyal to a friend, but when the historical evidence that was easily collected in a few weeks is presented there are going to be some red faces sported by JP's backers.
The easy way to accept this betrayal is to blame it on politics. Unless mountains of evidence was fabricated by IAD then planted in several locations, including numerous banks and Casinos, this is not political. It's just sad.
And to everyone asking why the Feds didn't do this: no need. The Feds are an easy way to do Wires and consensual recordings. That wasn't necessary. Think about that.
Finally, if it was public knowledge that JP and MO were in a long term relationship, much less married, do you really think they would have won the offices they held? I hope not!
"A marriage so the treasurer couldn't be compelled to testify against her "husband?" Sounds almost like a phony green card wedding.
11/24/2009 03:19:00 PM"
Nice try on her part. She's the Treasurer so she's on the Hook Big Time. O'Toole? There's a name that couldn't be more fitting.
But just as many of you did when Sgt O'Grady was falsely accused of beating a CTA bus driver, you already have JP tried and convicted. I know I've even jumped to conclusions based on reports instead of facts. So I guess shame on all of us. Unlike many of his supporters here I don't like JP personally. I think he is more into being one of the boys then taking care of the PBBA Members. And I've told him such. But he is still entitled to due process and a full investigation. Many of you just play into Daley's hands, whether he is behind this or not. I once read, "united we stand divided we fall." Maybe we all need to reflect on that phrase a bit..
Sgt Dennis O'Brien
Hey O.B. - When the detectives and ASA investigated the Sgt vs bus driver case, it was found the Sgt was innocent. The Sgt was not arrested and charged with a crime, because he didn't do it.
But this cocky lying cheat Sgt Pookie did get arrested and charged with a crime after the detectives and ASA invstigated, because he did do it.
Do not compare the two incidents.
Yeah, the only thing divided was our money that went right into John's pocket to support his fantasy high roller big gaffer lifestyle.
Hey O.B. - When the detectives and ASA investigated the Sgt vs bus driver case, it was found the Sgt was innocent. The Sgt was not arrested and charged with a crime, because he didn't do it.
But this cocky lying cheat Sgt Pookie did get arrested and charged with a crime after the detectives and ASA invstigated, because he did do it.
Do not compare the two incidents.
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Brother, You're correct, the fact he's been charged only seems to add credence to the story but I'll still reserve judgment on this issue. If he's guilty I hope he finds a shred of pride and pleads and makes restitution. If he's not guilty, and I hope he is not,then I hope the truth is learned. Not just for him but for all of us. I do sincerely hope this incident, which ever way it plays out, serves to strengthen our commitment to each other and our common goals.
Happy Turkey Day to you all. I'll be cooking and not watching football after the seasons that Notre Dame and the Bears are having.....sigh...
Sgt Dennis O'Brien
Why is it the President and Treasurer of the union were married but maintain separate residences? Was this a marriage of convenience? A marriage so the treasurer couldn't be compelled to testify against her "husband?" Sounds almost like a phony green card wedding.
11/24/2009 03:19:00 PM
...just guessing, but I hear she is very sick with a rare form of cancer. Perhaps they got married so that he will get her (spouse) pension.
This really could be a terrible mistake, or it may involve him and her borrowing from the treasury and paying the money back. Still impro0er, but not anywhere near as serious.
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You can't be serious! Borrowing from the treasury?? Isn't that what banks are for, how about our credit union??? If true, this sgt had NO RIGHT to "borrow" money from a treasury where monies are deposited from members for SAFE KEEPING for the good of the order. Was that treasury available to all members to "borrow"? I would say no. Was it put out to all memebers that when the president was tight for money for personal reasons, he could dip into the treasury?? It was a calculated move, don't even call it a "mistake" or "borrowing." I just wonder how many times this borrowing went on.
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