Thursday, May 27, 2010

Shoot to Wound?

  • City cops are livid over a legislative proposal that could handcuff the brave officers involved in life-and-death confrontations every day -- requiring them to shoot gun-wielding suspects in the arm or leg rather than shoot to kill, The Post has learned.

    The "minimum force" bill, which surfaced in the Assembly last week, seeks to amend the state penal codes' "justification" clause that allows an officer the right to kill a thug if he feels his life or someone else's is in imminent danger.

    The bill -- drafted in the wake of Sean Bell's controversial police shooting death -- would force officers to use their weapons "with the intent to stop, rather than kill" a suspect. They would be mandated to "shoot a suspect in the arm or the leg."

The bill isn't given much of a chance to pass and seeing as how NYPD says their officers only have a 17% hit rate, enforcement is sure to be nonexistent. The last hit rate we saw for CPD shootings was around 15%, so it seems shooting under stress would be considered "poor." But this would be another example of people who have no idea what goes into police work legislating from a position of ignorance.



Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am SO glad I'm retiring this year. This job has become a tightrope walk over an alligator pit built on a fault line.

5/27/2010 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The politicians are ALL on drugs!

5/27/2010 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But this would be another example of people who have no idea what goes into police work legislating from a position of ignorance."

Which reminds me, what's J-Fled been up to lately? Has he been down by North Ave beach telling the rabblerousers to "Knock it off?"

Sorry, gotta run!

5/27/2010 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Scc

I hope you are fucking kidding me, like being very sarcastic cause this has got to be the most dumbest thing I have heard while on this job for 20 years. How does anyone in their right mind put anything down on paper about this with a straight face. The label should be "the most unfuckingbelievable thing I have ever heard". With the dumbed down politicians we have in this dumbed down society we call Free America, it will pass. Soon to another major city that starts with the letter C and ends with the letter O and is positioned in Illinois. Daley is sleeping very soundly about now. I guess the range will have to teach us anatomy and exactly where the arteries are located in the arms and legs.

5/27/2010 01:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why even give these dumb-fucks any press???

5/27/2010 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And you might well ask - where do the other 85% go? You bet - clients for the Mayos lawyer friends firms...

5/27/2010 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What, can't you just shoot them in the hand? I mean, hell, John Wayne did it in the movies all the time!

Seriously, did Michael Jordan get to be at the top of his game, qualifying for 15 minutes per year? These retards want us to be able to shoot as well as Jerry Miculek, they just won't pay the freight for it. 9mm ammunition is maybe $15 per box ($300 per case) for cheap practice ammo. A shooter that good goes through a case or two of ammunition per WEEK to get and stay that good. Who is going to pay for $15,000 to $30,000 worth af ammunition per year, per officer? It also requires regular skills training and that is very expensive also. Oh, I know, it'll come out of our 2%........

There is more to policing than shooting a firearm. It is one of the least used tools on our belt. The city couldn't afford police officers that can shoot well. It costs too much. And just what would they do with the people that just barely managed to qualify? The only way they could shoot someone to just wound them is by accident.

Hey Pookie, hold out your arm and stay very still so I can shoot your hand.....

How did these big cities got so full of completely stupid people?


5/27/2010 03:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, aim am stupids crotch and fire 17 rounds, maybe one or two will hit the leg......

5/27/2010 03:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK but only if I get to use a 12 gauge shotgun so I can take the arm or leg completely off.

5/27/2010 05:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard they are proposing a similar amendment in Chicago, except instead of shooting in the arm or leg you shoot the alleged offender's belt buckle, causing his pants to drop and ultimately tripping the offender. Ald. Beale want to add that police should do whatever they can to ensure the offender is first standing on a soft surface such as grass or carpet to prevent elbow scrapage when the offender falls.

5/27/2010 06:25:00 AM  
Blogger rosco said...

Next they'll say to shoot the gun out of his hand.

5/27/2010 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just get an event number and tell them to KNOCK IT OFF!

I guess the new targets will have an arm or a leg on them now??

Who thinks this shit up?

5/27/2010 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish we would get that here. Think about it. We'd get much more training since we'd be trying to hit a smaller target and at the same time a much bigger target since you can hold out your arms a few feet. Think of the collateral damage we could inflict.

I was shooting for his hand and then he moved it, that's why the shitheads behind him got hit too.

5/27/2010 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i feel comfortable saying that i can shoot a gun out of the offender's hand with my .38 cal snub nose from over 100 feet away. all because the city allows me to shoot 30 rounds per year to practice this marksmanship. LOL

5/27/2010 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And I thought that Chicago, Ill was the world capitol of all that is Evil & STUPID.

New York, take your head out of your ASS ! Does daley & the reberands have twins in New York ????

Sure does seem like it !!!!!

5/27/2010 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the good news is that stories like this are written up to stir up a frenzy from the audience.

that bill has zero chance of passing.

bad news: some retard actually proposed it.

5/27/2010 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I shot him in the head, but I was only trying to wound him. It's nott my fault he died.

5/27/2010 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course, just shoot to wound, because those mean old guns are so, well, they are so deadly and so loud! Oh my, they go boom, so loud. And the folks making the laws don't like guns, they are so afraid of guns, the guns are so loud!

Just shoot to wound in the arm or leg, that sounds nice, and if the vicious police don't do that, then they can prosecute the policeman, imagine, a policeman being judge and jury and executioner! No that just won't do. Arm or leg only, those guns are so loud. I hate guns, so loud.

5/27/2010 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just remember that your last shot hits his arm or leg whichever is appropiate. Further he was waving the gun in front of his chest or if you have to explain the head shot he was aiming at you. Just missed his hand by THAT much.

5/27/2010 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, really I was trying to shoot the armed offender,who had just shot four people, in the arm. I can't help it if he moved and got it in the melon. "gotta run!"

5/27/2010 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i really can see the poetic justice in "anonymous'" post of shooting in the crotch!! I can hear the outrage from here!! what a great alternative! Dont just kill them, keep them from reproducing!! What terrific IRONY/JUSTICE!!! Hark the battle cry " No balls No Justice" ROFLMAO!!!

5/27/2010 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"How did these big cities got so full of completely stupid people?


5/27/2010 03:53:00 AM"

monopoly of public school systems + catch-22 of compulsory enrollment, excessive taxation and effective parental impotence in determining the quality and content of curriculums + priority of competing political agendas over common sense educational methodology + ignorance of the inevitable consequences of indulging in any, or all, of the 'seven deadly sins' = an unsustainable abundance of 'stupid people'.

the fit only survive when they deny survival to the unfit.

5/27/2010 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow just like Hawaii Five-O!

5/27/2010 02:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is an idea, use one or two .45 cal Thompson machine guns and aim at their legs to unload two 50 round drums. That should no only take the shithead,s mind off of his evil objective it will also STOP him from running away.

5/27/2010 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say bring back the Malcom X fad.
Remember those bright yellow X's on the hats and tshirts. Couldn't ask for a better low-light target.

5/27/2010 04:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How did these big cities got so full of completely stupid people?

Democrat politicians buying votes from people in exchange for perpetually being "on the dole."

No incentive to achieve for oneself = dependency = stupidity.

5/27/2010 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so does passing a qualification mean shooting anywhere out of the box. and what happens when you should the chest and head as we all been trained, are we going down for murder. and what about those that are in service prior to the law being passed, do we get grandfathered in? just asking.

5/27/2010 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

...Coming soon to the scooter-riding lefty moon-bat & overfed, overbreeding, non-contributing mouth-breather paradise of Chicago & Crook County...

Fuck that noise!

We will try our best to kill the shit out of who/what ever should deadly force be required.

A promise was made that should we or our partners fall, the offender(s) WILL DIE by the surviving partners hands.

Who on earth ARE these people conjuring up this shit?

5/27/2010 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

may i suggest New York should adopt the policy "shoot to castrate." Which should also be considered here in Chicago.

5/27/2010 07:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ill shoot the offender in the arm so he could use his legs to walk into court when he sues me!!!! no thank u

5/27/2010 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would think that Lawyer will find a LOOPHOLE to this situation in a Civil proceeding.

Meaning, "Officer if you felt you could just wound the leg or the arm then why couldn't you have tased or OC sprayed them etc. etc."

Totally ridiculous bullshit....THIS kind of shit will have us all hesitating moe so than ever and that leads to OUR injuries or death at peace officers...

Absolutely NUTS!

3 bars

5/27/2010 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hark the battle cry " No balls No Justice" ROFLMAO!!!

Now that's just too funny!


5/27/2010 09:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just when you think you have heard a politician make the dumbest statement of all time, one comes along and tops it.

5/27/2010 11:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only time and offender should be shot in the hand is when his hand is on his forehead.

5/27/2010 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous CharLes Bronson said...

What are these poLiticians proposing now... That aLL poLice officers wear smiLey badges, and waLk around compLimenting everyone. And onLy use weapons that fire fLowers!!!

5/28/2010 12:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

The only time and offender should be shot in the hand is when his hand is on his forehead.

5/27/2010 11:28:00 PM

Good one, true too.

5/28/2010 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Chicago we can shoot them in the head and say we were aiming for the arm or leg but because of the extremely poor training shooting only 30 rounds a year at paper we missed. And it would be true.

5/28/2010 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this was to happen here can you imagine the lawsuits that these guys would file because they were shot in the leg and are now in a wheelchair or have lost the use of the arms or legs?

This city would be even broker then it already is.

5/28/2010 09:19:00 AM  

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