Laughable "Merit" List
- A Chicago Police officer who spent three months as a driver for Supt. Jody Weis and another officer who served four years on Mayor Daley’s bodyguard detail snared two of nine new merit promotions to the rank of sergeant.
The promotion of former Weis driver Floyd Goldsmith and former mayoral bodyguard Jack Dedore has shined the light on a merit promotion process that, critics contend, is rife with politics.
This is completely laughable:
- Weis, who has the final say on merit promotions, insisted that clout played no role in either promotion.
He called Dedore a “natural leader” who compiled the highest score of all the nominees ranked by a Merit Board comprised of four deputy superintendents and two assistant superintendents.
Dedore now serves as senior investigator on an organized crime case targeting gangs and narcotics that’s expected to come to a head shortly.
“There was no clout involved in this at all. I never got a call from the mayor’s office. All Sam [Roti] did was what all our commanders do,” he said.
Weis said he was so impressed with Goldsmith’s “phenomenal” inter-personal skills, he sent his driver back to Narcotics last month with a mandate to find someone to recommend him for a merit promotion.
“I asked him, `What do you want to do — be my driver or be a sergeant leading men? If you want to be a leader, quit driving me, get back in the field and find a commander to put you in. I promise I’ll look hard at your resume,” the superintendent said.
Go read the comments - all sorts of readers rip into the entire process, J-Fled, Shortshanks, etc. "Merit" is a complete joke. The best comment of all (in our opinion)?
- He ain't heavy, he's my driver
Now comes word from a source or three that someone on the "merit" list didn't even take the promotion exam. We'd certainly hope they wouldn't be that stupid, but it happened before on a Lieutenant list. They got caught that time, too.
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
140 Comments:
Maybe he performed heroically when he whisked J-Fled from a shots fired call, saving him from danger.
I had a good laugh when I read this shit. Especially the line about how clout played no role in these promotions. I guess there's nothing else for JFled to do, but talk crazy.
Gee I sure hope JFled could better explain why in the last two Sgt class's he has Merit promoted his driver. Best job on the dept to get ahead drive JFled and you get to make sgt. Also in the last class was one of Daleys bodyguards Schaff yep it's who you now not what you know when it comes to promotions in the CPD.
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To own a gun u need one hours shooting time every year as a citizen even if u retired from the police
But to carry a gun as the police u fire 30 rounds at a target 5 yards away (for the most part) once a year and that takes maybe 15 minutes and your out the door
So when will the aldermen be qualifying and shouldn't we be getting far more range time?
Jayzus!
We've NEVER seen the wheels come off anyone's career in such spectacular fashion!
j-fled is like the fools on all the cop shows who run over the spikes in the get-away car and still trying to drive 100 mph while throwing weapons, dope, money and shitty underwear out the window to try make good their escape!
"I can still win!"
No you can't, j-fled. Why not do humankind a favor and just rat out the Crime King. Or is $310k worth everyone one shining their shoes on the seat of your pants because shorty put a "kick me" sign on your back? Or do you like having divots kicked in that ass?
Iv been retired over 4 years now Occasionally I will bump into a group of coppers and ask them if the job is still legit like it was when I left
They and these posts assure me that its more legit than ever
I give up. "Merit"; Ha Ha!, how about making some legit classes-no merit- so we can get some people out there that know the general orders, law etc.
What future does this department have? How is it going to function in 5, 10, 20 years...
Weis is soooo full of shit...He ASKED Goldsmith for his packet, and Goldsmith gave it to him (he had an old copy of a merit promotion packet that another cmdr had compiled when he submitted Goldsmith for a merit Sgt position a couple of years ago). Weis then returned Goldsmith to his former unit (narcotics), where he's been assigned for at least the last 10 years, to 'await the list.' Why Weis would submit that pack of LIES to the press about Goldsmith leaves everyone down here at headquarters scratching their heads! And WHY would Roman submit Goldsmith for Sgt.? Roman barely even knows who Floyd is! And why is a 'civilian' cmdr even ALLOWED to submit a pick for a merit promotion? That shouldn't even be allowed. And who does Roman report to? A certain "Chief of Staff?"
the infamous 3M? Weis and Masters can't even keep the lies straight anymore. Why doesn't the media get an interview with 3M, get his take on all this? I would love to see what the little guy has to say to the mainstream media, or anyone but the puppet crew at Crain's.
Message to Supt Weis: we all know that when someone is going to make a merit promotion they are miraculously placed back into patrol or some investigative unit prior to their merit promotion to make it look "legit".
I can't believe he made it sound his driver is so darn smart that he should now go into a unit because he's so articulate and POPW now made a merit sgt. This is truly political clout here, pure and simple. The merit system is a joke and continually stabs hard-working officers in the back.
Didn't take the exam? I though they were "merited" because these are very smart people who just don't test well.....Jody said that himself in front of the rank and file. They are all liars.
If this is true, that some were promoted meritoriously w/out taking the exam, should be outed. The next few people on the list waiting for their number to be called should file a lawsuit pronto.
FOP should demand who didn't take the test be "unmerited". There's no "merit" when you lied and deceptively taken a promotion knowing you did not take the exam. It's a slap in the face to the next person on the list who now has to wait another year or so. The person on the list is also behind in seniority due to the merit promotion.
FOI?? We should all be made aware who took the test who were merited and who didn't. They should also "out" the actual test scores of these wonders who are so smart but can't pass a promotional exam.
Where's the "monitor" on this??????
“I asked him, `What do you want to do — be my driver or be a sergeant leading men? If you want to be a leader, quit driving me, get back in the field and find a commander to put you in"
Jody... Shut the fuck up!
The new CPD Fast Track to promotion in 5 easy steps:
1.) Membership to a store front reverend's church.
2.) Three months as the superintendent's driver.
3.) One whole month in narcotics.
4.) Have the store front reverend call the Commander that he helped get promoted and demand they nominate you for a meritorious position.
5.) Pay a big cash donation to the church to launder the tax free gift.
Remember to repeat the 5 steps for the next promotion also!
Can anyone answer this question:
When the Superintendent arrived here from out of town and did not know a soul in Chicago, how did he pick the officers that would be assigned as his driver?
Who recommended the officers names as possible candidates?
Because I don't remember seeing the position posted in the Daily Bulletin!
Two drivers that have now been promoted to meritorious Sergeant.
He was only in Narcotics since July?
That is a slap in the face to all of the other clouted officers in Narcotics that have been there for at least
3 months!
I can only hope that all of this attention will derail J-Fled's plan to "meritoriously" promote his recently transferred administrative sergeant, who is now parked behind a desk in the Area 2 Detective Division, patiently awaiting his promotion. He made a promise to promote this sergeant to lieutenant before the nomination process even began. This sergeant is no genius, and there are no tales of incredible heroism or valiant leadership to be told about him, so his promotion would strictly be a "clout" move.
I'll have to ask Director Goldstein to look into his crystal ball to see if this injustice is still going to happen.
I guess I have to call the FOP to see if they checked if all merit took the tests.
Give us a fucking break !!!!!! J-Fleds comments are as unbelieveable as the size of that Mellon sitting on his shoulders.
He sounds like Batman being quoted from a Comic Book.
Only the "Clouted" drive the superintendent or get on the mayors detail !!!!!!
J-Fled should call the UFO that left him here to take him back to his home galaxy.
P.S. Take masters, masters, masters with you.
It's business as usual, it's the chicago way. Everyone that comes in contact with Daley becomes just like Daley. Does anyone really believe that clout had nothing to do with their promotions? J-Fled knew them and promoted them. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO ON THIS JOB, YOU STILL HAVE TO KNOW A BIG BIG BOSS OR POLITICIAN. These guys knew a big one. J-Fled!
if this MF'ER was a leader, he would of earned his stripes on 1st watch in some f'ed up south side district not driving melon head around
signed,
GOTTA RUN
And jodypweis has the nerve and gall to get a CR investigation going on Lt Andrews for telling the truth? What complete and total bullshit!
This is the same Superintendant who chose KB, a 5 year wonder with no clue to be on the policy group. And then Ray Ray, rule 14 and a myriad of other violations that got him kicked out of swat, to be the CO. This guy is a genius. Hey Sup did you know that Ray had the order changed that said you can't go back to swat if you had been previously kicked out? Or did he just slip that past you to benefit himself like he always has.
I used to be a sgt in 010 when Jack was a tactical officer there. I would NEVER try to minimize what our officers do in these ghetto districts.
I eventually left 010 and retired from 019. If you want to criticize what passes for police tactical work, these low crime districts are a good place to start. Not that the officers are bad, but that the system requires them to produce statistics. Therefore, they come in with ANY arrest to feed the number crunchers downtown.
I don't feel DeDore is necessarily unworthy of the merit spot, but its a shame that he got caught up in the controversy to begin with. If he had never been in the midget's detail, there would be little criticism of his merit selection.
didnt the mayor slap jack in the back of the head because he got lost driving just asking
FYI,Goldsmith ain' the first "Driver" for the Supt. to make merit and he wont be the last, so fucking get over it folks.
officers who know something say something give more info and provide copy of information if u have it .
It is good to be on the mayor's bodyguard detail. Look what it did for Jack Townsend. I remember the famous picture of a young Jack Townsend carrying the suitcases of Richard J. Daley while trying to open doors at the same time.
That was Townsend's career in a nutshell, carrying the water for the daley's and holding the door open and saying "what else can I do for you boss?"
Also in the last class was one of Daleys bodyguards Schaff yep it's who you now not what you know when it comes to promotions in the CPD.
8/26/2010 12:22:00 AM
Exactly, He got launched out to Gang Investigations for 4 months before he "meritoriously" promoted. His policing and leadership skills were needed almost immediately at the academy where he instructs 30 or 40 PPO's about hard work and dedication.
Remember...
Earned not given!
Dedore is one of the best policeman and sharpest guys on this job.
If anyone deserves to get made meritoriously, it's Jack.
I wouldn't want to work for him...he's never tired.
He's probably the department's best card player, too. :)
I worked with Jack DeDore for a number of years, and anyone who know's him from the 10th district would tell you that he is the Real Police,not anyone's BOY, I'm proud to have worked with him. If the merit system if flawed,which it is. This time it promoted the Right Guy.
To argue Weiss' point that he told Goldsmith to go back to Narcotics and find a Commander to put him in just look at who put him in, Roman. ROMAN WORKS IN THE SUPERINTENDENTS OFFICE!!! It's right there in front of you. Why is it that if he was is so great he needed to be nominated by someone in the Superintendents office? Commanders are only SUPPOSED to be allowed to nominate someone they have supervised prior. And exactly when did Roman actually supervise him? It's all a bunch of B.S.
I believe that the promotions of Goldsmith and Dedore are suspect because of the individuals who nominated them!
Sergeant Bobby Roman (retired) and then rehired as a Commander in the 1st Deputy's Office supervises no one. He had limited time as a field sergeant before moving to Headquarters back in the early 1990's
Patrol Officer Sam Roti, who now serves as the Co-ordinator of the Mayor's Protection Unit has never had any field supervisory duties. He owes his promotion to the Mayor not the Superintendent.
Why are they authorized to nominate anyone for a merit promotion?
This is obvious to all that these are political promotions and not worthy of consideration.
The question that remains is why does the FOP allow this and why don't they go to Federal court to stop same?
Is Roman the same guy who has a son working the the mayors detail? Bwahahahaha! How'd he get there? A test? Oh wait, that's a phone call spot.
Wait until they connect the dots. I just found out that Jack Dedore last worked for his brother Lt. Scott Dedore in Gang Investigations. WOW!!!!!!
"I guess there's nothing else for JFled to do, but talk crazy."
IT WORKS FOR THE MIDGET.
We have zero leaders! That is why I follow no one. I answer jobs and back up coppers period!
didnt the mayor slap jack in the back of the head because he got lost driving just asking
8/26/2010 04:49:00 AM
I thought he hit him with a newspaper.
Bad doggie!
so good old goldsmith carried all the kitty litter up to j-fled's DINK pad and now he deserves a promotion... j-fed is about to get some sand pounded up his posterior....
Here's a thought about merit transparency...
Post every gold star's name and their corresponding pick/s next to their name prior to things being submitted to the Deputy Sups. Then post the names that made the cut to the J-Feds desk.
“I asked him, `What do you want to do — be my driver or be a sergeant leading men? If you want to be a leader, quit driving me, get back in the field and find a commander to put you in"
First off J-Fuck, it's not "the field" it's "the street." As in, quit driving Jody around all day and get back on the street. And if Jody told him he'd "look real close at his resume" isn't that clout right there? How is that merit based on performance and not "who you know?"
“I asked him, `What do you want to do — be my driver or be a sergeant leading men? If you want to be a leader, quit driving me, get back in the field and find a commander to put you in. I promise I’ll look hard at your resume,” the superintendent said.
What a bold face lie. UNREAl. Go out into the world and find a comander to put you in. It's ironic he finds one so close to Jody's door. His lies are so insulting.
So much for "transparency". When you do this kind of crooked-underthetable stuff, you need to stay behind closed doors and doit.
He called Dedore a “natural leader” who compiled the highest score of all the nominees ranked by a Merit Board
Ok, what's his score??
"Roti"?? any relation to the Alderman that was a made member of the mob???
Anonymous said...
Can anyone answer this question:
When the Superintendent arrived here from out of town and did not know a soul in Chicago, how did he pick the officers that would be assigned as his driver?
Who recommended the officers names as possible candidates?
Because I don't remember seeing the position posted in the Daily Bulletin!
Two drivers that have now been promoted to meritorious Sergeant.
8/26/2010 01:57:00 AM
Wait a minute he had a female hispanic driver who was Cline's former driver, she was put in the airport, why was she not promoted? Right?
Anonymous said...
didnt the mayor slap jack in the back of the head because he got lost driving just asking
8/26/2010 04:49:00 AM
Jack deserves the promotion which of the mators top drivers had a major dui incident swept under the rug? Hint lets play some hoops!
I'm surprised the 14 yr. old kid wasn't made meritorious. Come to think of it, he probably did more work or had more experience then these meritorious clout babies.
Where is it written that all promotional exam scores and rankings (THAT FOP HAS) are not open for candidates review or posted in districts? I would not be embarrassed or ashamed of my score if I didn't make the grade. I would however, if I got promoted by MERIT and leap frogged over many others who scored way less. Don't ya just love it how the Merits peacock around like they earned it? Not enough Meritorious picks from the District level. Never has been and never will be. The Mertitees will eventually wind up back in to their Units and the chumps will carry on.
GottaRun.
Goldsmith has been on the job for 22 years
17 years in NAGIS. His record includes SWAT, narcotics, vice, ATF and DEA details, etc.
College Educated and DID take the Sgt's exam.
Not enough room here to lists all the commendations and awards.
If you don't like the process then fine but don't knock the qualified individuals.
He was only in Narcotics since July?
That is a slap in the face to all of the other clouted officers in Narcotics that have been there for at least
3 months!
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That's Funny!
The good news is that beatoff, Sgt
V.G. another storefront reverned double merit pick is no longer in A/1 Dep Chief office. Godd luck A/2 Det Div. this guy is a complete stroke.
Lok at Sgt B.B. worked for Jody now at Area 2 al of a sudden before the merit Lt list.
"Weis said he was so impressed with Goldsmith’s “phenomenal” inter-personal skills"=He didn't hit any bumps while I was sipping my latte.
Each member of the Merit Board was personally contacted by J-Fed to amke sure a certain packet is included in the final list. No NOT Ray Ray or Bill B.
A low profile pick, a Sgt who went back to patrol a few months ago from the CAPS Office.
"S.O." now in 021!!!
Sarge, you need to learn to keep your mouth shut.
And WHY would Roman submit Goldsmith for Sgt.? Roman barely even knows who Floyd is! And why is a 'civilian' cmdr even ALLOWED to submit a pick for a merit promotion? That shouldn't even be allowed. And who does Roman report to? A certain "Chief of Staff?"
We know who he reports to...his son is on the Mayor's bodyguard detail! Ok? Get It? Is anyone paying attention?
Aunt Bea the "ASS" (Assistant Superintendent of Supplies)
Had to take a week off, "I can't go through this again, he wants me to do his bidding for him.
Merit Board meets Friday.
It will be interseting to see if the ASS stands up to J-Fed.
I can only hope that all of this attention will derail J-Fled's plan to "meritoriously" promote his recently transferred administrative sergeant, who is now parked behind a desk in the Area 2 Detective Division, patiently awaiting his promotion. He made a promise to promote this sergeant to lieutenant before the nomination process even began. This sergeant is no genius, and there are no tales of incredible heroism or valiant leadership to be told about him, so his promotion would strictly be a "clout" move.
I'll have to ask Director Goldstein to look into his crystal ball to see if this injustice is still going to happen.
This is not the only sgt from headquarters reassigned to await making Lt. The CAPS sgt is now back in 021 and has bumped the caps sgt. in 021 to afternoons.
Its all on the up and up!!!
The Feds should have taken over the Dept. a decade or more ago. But then, again, would that change anything? Probably not, it's ALL a big fix, it's Crookago. Everyone and everything is for sale for the right price.
The " Merit List" bullshit should be discontinued !! That list has been a joke from the beginning. The list was never properly used for what it was intended for. A true promotion test is based on knowledge of the job ! Not who my daddy,uncle,cousin,mother,sister is on the job. Oh yeah, or what alderman my family knows and contributes to. That is what
the" Chicago Merit List "is.
WTF!!!!!!!!! I've been around for more than a few years and have seen and heard all sorts of bullshit from this shithole of a department. What I am reeeaaaaaalllllllyyy getting tired of is the insulting way we are force fed this absolute nonsense and are expected to believe it's all legit. I would have more respect for one of these asshole bosses if they said "hey this is my neighbors kid and I'm promoting him". It still wouldn't make it right but at least we wouldn't be expected to swallow the "illusion of legitimacy". How fucking insulting!!
Here's problem number one. The people around the powers that be will always have a crack at merit promotions. What about the officer that works their ass off in some hole day in and day out. They hardly if ever get recognized. What has a driver done lately?? What has a body guard done lately?? The only thing they have done is got themselves close to those that have the power to promote them.
How did JFled know Floyd was so smart?
Maybe they played on the PS3 together and Floyd let him win....
Remember Dick Tracy comics?....Well did they foresee Weis and have a character named "Panhead"?
Wow! J-Fled, did Masters x 3 advise you on what to say to the media (afterall, he is Harvard law educated)? J-Fled, you made an admission to the media that you ILLEGALLY promoted your beloved driver. Good luck defending that lawsuit and CR (discredit to the Dept. anyone?) Didn't you learn anything as a Fed.? How about from Stroger? Don't promote like your BFF Shortshanks does. What is going on in that mellon head of yours, Asshat? Put J-Fled in Cozzi's cell for this illegal "merit" promotion. Free Cozzi!
Blatant lies by Police brass! Where are the merit qualifications listed at again? Oh no qualification but a phone call!
Jack Dedore: now sergeant.
You want to know his connection? Jack's dade used to be in the 010th district and guess who also was there: James Keating!
Eventually Jack came to work in 010 and guess who was still there? James Keating.
Guess how jack ended up on the body guard detail: James Keating! correct! you are good at this.
Roti will do whatever his is told. His enduring position rides on being a "yes" man to who? Correct! JAMES KEATING
I put my life on hold for almost a year studying for the test. I did pretty decent and hopefully will make it if the list stays up long enough. But it just kills me to see these merit guys getting promoted purely b/c of who they know (or drive).
I thought J-Failure was supposed to come in here and get everything on the up and up. He was an outsider with a chance to do great things here. Define merit being one of them. Instead he fell right into the "chicago way" and began promoting people whose soul purpose of the day is to drive j-fed or the mayor around (basically a taxi drivers). What did these guys do to deserve it?
I'm working in a busy district in a beat car everyday and somehow a "taxi driver" is more deserving than me? And don't forget i actually scored well on the test too!
Is Dedore related to the merit Lt by the same last name who also worked in narcotics as a sergeant
just asking
Trying to get anywhere on this job is so demoralizing. Even if you work hard and study your ass off you still get passed up by total do nothing idiots.
A few years back a certain Italian Lt, who once was a tac Lt in 021, ended up on the capt list. He said that he never finished the test and he decided to retire, but he still was put on the capt list
so he sent him to narcotics to find a boss that would nominate him?
Hmm how many narcotics busts did he make as a driver?
hmm what qualified him to be sent to narcotics in the first place?
his interpersonal skills?
man youse a really nice guy im funna show you my stash and let you lock me up.
so how man buys did he have in narcotics before being nominated?
That just proves that getting to a unit takes clout and has nothing to do with ability
Merit sgt story:
Sgt's first day on the watch. He pulls up to the scene of a domestic battery in which we have the guy in custody. He can't figure out how to log into his computer. Says he hasn't been in a beat car in over 10 years and asks me to help him. I do. He asks what we got going on here and i tell him the guy punched his girlfriend in the face etc... He then asks me why are you going to charge him with domestic? I tell him b/c they're boyfriend girlfriend and they live together. He looks at me puzzled and says "yeah, but what makes it a domestic, they aren't married are they?" I actually had to explain to him what constitutes a domestic relationship.
These are the Merit bosses that we are getting stuck with. They are going to get us in trouble just by their pure stupidity.
Several years ago they promoted 25 Capts who did not have 4yrs of college. They were told to get it in the NEXT 4yrs. 12 did not. 4yrs later 11 retired (with capt pension) and one was quietly demoted back to Lt. Try that in the private sector. Hey, maybe they will hire me as the editor of the Tribune or Scum-times then I'll go to journalism school
As silly and corrupt this city and leaders at 35th St. are. I find it hard to believe that someone was made merit Sgt. without taking the test. This would be so easy to find out. Who is the person? Even J-Fled can't be that stupid. This would create a shit storm and anyone whoever took a promotional exame could file a class action lawsuit.
Another day in the life of pweis herman.
what a schmuck.
Dear Media:
In case you're having trouble reading between the lines, let's spell it out for you.
Mericloutorius letters (they call them "merit" letters, but we all know that those deserving of merit -- the hardworking, knowledgable cops -- are not ever covered in the "merit" letters.) are requested by HQ from The Brass a month or two before a promotional class (sgt, lt, etc.) is started.
These letters are supposed to contain the name(s) that The Brass decide are "worthy" of a mericloutorius appointment, not being able to earn the promotional spot on their own.
Most of the time, if a person set forth in a mericloutorious letter is actually going to get the promotion spot, they are shunted out to work in a district (if previously in a unit) or a unit (if previously at HQ or connected to HQ in any way) for the sake of appearances.
So that it appears that the mericloutorious pick is coming from "the ranks" (district patrol -- inside a district, having been sent there from a unit the month or two before promotion) or from anywhere that is NOT connected to HQ (a specialized unit such as narcotics -- again, having been sent there from HQ or something connected with HQ the month or two before promotion).
That way it appears to be "legit."
All these "merit picks" that appear to come from districts or units? Nope. They were there for a month, maybe two. To make it look like that's where they worked their entire career.
Because remember: "We don't want nobody nobody sent."
-- Athena
"he ain't heavy, he's my driver"....sung to the tune of
"he ain't heavy, he's my brother"...maybe J-Fed can sing that at the swearing in ceremony for the new sergeants....
Phenomenal interpersonal skills? Who else does the supt's driver talk to all day other than the supt?
And thank you JW for proving you are even more stupid than we thought. You don't even know that you ratted yourself out, do you?
I want to be Jody's driver and then a sergeant !! Thank you very much !!!
Hocus-Pocus Dominocus!
Wham-BAM Merit Scam!
"Police for Fair Promotions"
The Great Magical Mystical See'er Sayer, Majestic John Northen been asking for Fairness since late 80's.
Yet still today we can't see our scores or rankings among the other promoted candidates. Shanks won't allow it, no Exempt will speak of it.
Does one need a CDL w/ special hauler endorsement to carry a load of BS for JFLED?
J-Fled states he had "great interpersonal skills"
How about great "police" skills there Possum-Head?
Joan Rivers has great interpersonal skills, too.
Goldsmith's going to Narcotics isn't exactly going "back in the field" now is it? And how wonderful must Floyd feel knowing that all of his phenomenal inter-personal skills never went unnoticed. His time spent "in the field" looking for a commander/sponsor led him right back to HQ's. Bob Roman knows a sergeant when he sees one-lol.
Does this fucking idiot listen to himself?JFraud says his driver was such a superstar that he sent him to a unit so some boss could "discover" this guys talents and maybe put him in for meritorious Sgt. Lo and behold within 6 weeks of being sent to a unit this guy is a meritorious Sgt!
JFraud had nothing to do with this right? This guy was such a superstar that some Commander immediately realized that he should be a meritorious Sgt. and then was able to make it happen. JFraud must think we're drinking his Kool Aid by the gallons if he expects us to swallow that one.
John Andrews hit the nail on the head. This department is so fucked it isn't even funny.
Just remember it's all legit cause King Ritchie says so. He also says there's no such thing as clout anymore.
Why don't we try to figure out the number of exempts who have received at least one merit promotion. Commanders of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15, 20, 25.
I know Jack Dedore and Jeff Schaff, both were on the 10th dist tact team when I worked in 010. Both are great guys and Jeff was sent to 007 after making sgt and did great job as a field supervisor. Don't get mad if these guys know somebody and got promoted, you wouldn't turn it down if it was offered to you. So Jeff is at the academy now, if you ask me you can have that spot. I'm not a straight days weekend off person, to me days are a punishment. So Jack my hats off to you congrats on the promotion, and Jeff good luck to you also I still don't understand people getting mad over merit promotions it's nothing new.
Bob Mangan FTO 015 1st watch
Whoever gets Dedore as Sgt will be getting an experienced guy who knows the street and knows the game. There has been much more to his career then the mayoral detail.
BLUE SHIRTS KEEP THINKING THIS IS A CAREER AND EARNED NOT GIVEN!!! HA HA Cloutless Fools keep making me look good:)! loves ya signed KB
send my back to afghanistan at least there Im in charge-semper fi
I was really wondering when SCC would post this right after I read it. Is this the most incomprehensively idiotic response to why someone got a merit promotion "do you want to be my driver or a sergeant" . . .duh let me think . . . A SERGEANT! "then go back in the field and find a commander to put you in", I'LL LOOK HARD AT YOUR RESUME` you have got to be kidding me. Who is the PR person for this guy, FIRE THEM NOW! I keep hoping I'm dreaming, then AC walks through the doors of 007th! There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home! (In my best Dorothy voice), Get me back to KANSAS!!!
Someone posted in another thread about Sgt. Scott O. in 021 and his rumored merit promotion to lieutenant. It is not a rumor, though, it is a fact. He is another "HQ building guy" who was reassigned prior to the nomination process was even announced so it wouldn't look like he was made "from the building." Sgt. William B., who worked directly for the superintendent, is another example. The decision to promote these people was made before the process had even begun. How is it that the media doesn't pick up on this? The deputies haven't even met to decide on the names to be given to the superintendent for consideration, but you can safely bet that these two will be on the list. It is a shame, if not criminal. Hopefully all of this attention will ensure a fair and honest process. On second thought, they'll continue to play their games and claim that clout had nothing to do with it. Let me be the first to congratulate you on your promotions, Scott and Bill!
The only skills needed by a driver is knowing how to tell time and knowing how to program the GPS.
"Goldsmith has been on the job for 22 years
17 years in NAGIS. His record includes SWAT, narcotics, vice, ATF and DEA details, etc.
College Educated and DID take the Sgt's exam.
Not enough room here to lists all the commendations and awards.
If you don't like the process then fine but don't knock the qualified individuals."
So that's what it takes to get promoted via merit...hmmm.
I guess I better go find me a nice spot in a specialized unit working second watch for the next 17 years...I'll be a sergeant in 2027!!! Yipeee.
Puhleeez. You couldn't come up with a better story than that to justify a merit slot. Try again.
Goldsmith has been on the job for 22 years
17 years in NAGIS. His record includes SWAT, narcotics, vice, ATF and DEA details, etc.
College Educated and DID take the Sgt's exam.
Not enough room here to lists all the commendations and awards.
If you don't like the process then fine but don't knock the qualified individuals.
8/26/2010 10:00:00 AM
Clout from the beginning makes the min. 5 years and right to a connected Unit.... GO F*^* YOURSELF and Goldsmith!!!!
Anonymous said...
J-Fled states he had "great interpersonal skills"
How about great "police" skills there Possum-Head?
Joan Rivers has great interpersonal skills, too.
8/26/2010 03:26:00 PM
So did Bernie Madoff and Ted Bundy
LB was merit....he's the best.... he is probably the most laughable of them all.
The best is the mope a few years back that was SECOND TO LAST on the list, then "merit" promotes him. I would think that if you are stupid enough to be at the bottom of the list then there is no need for that person to be in the running for a promotion. Ass kissing is not a reason for a promotion.
FYI,Goldsmith ain' the first "Driver" for the Supt. to make merit and he wont be the last, so fucking get over it folks.
8/26/2010 05:22:00 AM
If that m-fer slapped me in the back of the head, i'd jump in the back seat and kick his f-in ass!!!
" Anonymous said...
Several years ago they promoted 25 Capts who did not have 4yrs of college. They were told to get it in the NEXT 4yrs. 12 did not. 4yrs later 11 retired (with capt pension) and one was quietly demoted back to Lt. Try that in the private sector. Hey, maybe they will hire me as the editor of the Tribune or Scum-times then I'll go to journalism school
8/26/2010 01:14:00 PM
The one "quietly demoted back to Lt" was made Capt in the next round. Capt Parra still didn't get his teeth fixed.
Arent most of the bosses laughable anyway
Dont you just hate that line "some people are just bad test takers"? Well sure you're bad at taking tests when you don't know the answers. So thats why the department said they created option 1 - merit promotions.
OR option 2. You have schmoozed the right exempt long enough to gain his/her trust who will give you the answers to the promotion test or the test itself - prior to the actual testing day.
OR option 3. You ignore your family and friends for months, use as many days off as you can get, spend hundreds of dollars of your own money to attend non-department study classes and purchase pre-made study material packets, and stress your entire life out just to study and memorize the most boring/monotonous material for what you know is your one shot at getting promoted.
Now, everyone on this department of past and present fits one of these categories. Lets all take a lie box.
Blogger robert said...
I know Jack Dedore and Jeff Schaff, both were on the 10th dist tact team when I worked in 010. Both are great guys and Jeff was sent to 007 after making sgt and did great job as a field supervisor. Don't get mad if these guys know somebody and got promoted, you wouldn't turn it down if it was offered to you. So Jeff is at the academy now, if you ask me you can have that spot. I'm not a straight days weekend off person, to me days are a punishment. So Jack my hats off to you congrats on the promotion, and Jeff good luck to you also I still don't understand people getting mad over merit promotions it's nothing new.
Bob Mangan FTO 015 1st watch
8/26/2010 05:39:00 PM
We get mad because they didn't SCORE HIGH ENOUGH to be promoted. We also get mad because they did not make it because they are/were good Officers but because of who the know. We get mad because there are great officers out there who work their a$$es off and because they are not suck ups do not get merit. We get mad because of people like Carouthers (SP) who made merit Det, Sgt, Lt, which knocked people off the list who scored higher then him and then he gets made commander.
And you say if merit was offered people would not turn it down well I have news for you. There is no way I would take a merit spot. I could not look at myself in the mirror every day if I did. And I have been asked to put paperwork in for merit by some "big" bosses and I refused.
THE SGTS LIST IS GONE!IF U SCORED OVER A 130 U HAVE NO HOPE!STUDY HARD!!
To everyone saying study, study how? Study the orders and hope you finish in the top .5 percent? Anybody who thinks all these people making it off the list are legit are kidding themselves. One out three people making it on score is making it legit, the rest are being spoon fed the answers. Think that is a is lie? Anyone who said notify and coordinate with the Cook County Forest Preserve Police on the elderly missing question on the last Sgts. test got the call at home before the test.
All you dudes beefing about merit would take it if it was offered, you would be fools not too.
Wies has been corrupted by this job because no individual is stronger then the group.
From an old Marquette maggot; J.D. was a fine tac guy back when there was a lotta on view work being done. He must've inherited it from his father who wound up his career walking a beat on Cermak road. Wake up you fools promotions are made for a variety of reasons clout, money, looks, intelligence whatever. My surprise is why it took so long. Worked for a ton of Sgts that couldnt measure up to J.D. as police officer.
Why don't we try to figure out the number of exempts who have received at least one merit promotion. Commanders of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15, 20, 25.
8/26/2010 04:34:00 PM
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Get your shit right asshole, Dennis Keane is not merit
"Goldsmith has been on the job for 22 years
17 years in NAGIS. His record includes SWAT, narcotics, vice, ATF and DEA details, etc."
Jesus Christ himself couldn't build a resume like this at CPD without some whack.
He might be a great guy. He might even be a great cop, but c'mon now.
You can't ignore that reality.
Did a lot of you really think that getting promoted on this job was on the up and up when you took it? I knew how Chicago, and really all of Illinois, worked and took the job anyway. The whole Carothers getting promoted to Commander in 007 is just beyond what I can take though....that is just CRIMINAL...seriously, that type of nonsense will make good cops just say 'screw it', answer their jobs, and wait for the 1st and the 16th. How can you be the police when you have to answer to a criminal? Really, I mean it? How? I want to work, I like being the police even though I knew that things wouldn't be real fair....but I just can't, not after that blatant clout promotion was given in blatant and obvious exchange for his brother's silence. On top of that the guy is a total stroke who has managed to make working in ine if the shittiest dristricts even shittier. Tho other little bullshit promotions of drivers and things seems to pal in comparison.
'Why don't we try to figure out the number of exempts who have received at least one merit promotion. Commanders of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15, 20, 25.
WHY have you failed to mention district 018? Angarone was a merit Lt. And Narcotics? O'Grady was a merit Lt. as well. I suspect Kenny is one also, but I could be wrong about him.
Get your shit right asshole, Dennis Keane is not merit.
Great guy, but your wrong he was merit twice. From Sgt to Lt. and then again to Commander, with less then 2 years as a Lt.
Lets not get so upset about this ok. It happens, some people have the clout some people do not.
Remember this is Chicago.
WHY have you failed to mention district 018? Angarone was a merit Lt. And Narcotics? O'Grady was a merit Lt. as well. I suspect Kenny is one also, but I could be wrong about him.
8/27/2010 01:35:00 AM
Gangs cmdrs were merit Lts. Gotta get a hold of all the merit lists since day one.
About the merit process.... all BS.
Reward the officers who put in the time and effort to study and pass the exam with a high scor. YES... of course some officers have privy info....test questions.... how else could some of these fools finish in the top 10????
As far as Floyd and Jack????
Jack is a good guy. Knowledgeable, and has the ability to run investigations and keep things in order. I think from my years of knowing him, he is one of the beter choices for Merit SGT.
Floyd, also a nice guy.... Floyd has been taken care of just like Jack. Both were in specialized units.
Somebody has to fill those spots in special units...and Floyd and Jack were both very good at what they did.
Floyd is a nice quiet person who knows what to do and will not take shit.
You want to mention some other merit picks from OCD?????
How about....
WADE
Calderon
Beudrow(sp)
Butler
Gainer
Blanks
Sanchez
Ramirez
Karuntzos
Santos
Douglas
Murphy
And the list can go on and on.
Hey, FG can multi-task - drive and talk to JW all at the same time. A stellar choice.
Yep. Keane a great guy and good boss but yes merit. Wick 024. Merit Lt and third choice as Commander the first two didn't want it. Kenny. Not merit. Mealer,proof you can score well and still be a moron.
'"Goldsmith has been on the job for 22 years
17 years in NAGIS. His record includes SWAT, narcotics, vice, ATF and DEA details, etc."
If you stick around NAGIS for a while, you will eventually find yourself doing some work with the various federal agencies. It's inevitable. Floyd was never on SWAT, but he was a member of the old High Risk Entry Team in Narcotics, which RayRay helped Tobias steal away from narcotics right under Risley's nose years ago. HRET became SWAT when they rolled over into SOS. Most of the HRET members opted to remain in NAGIS, but some went to SOS with RayRay.
Anyone willing to lay odds J-Fled and his big mouth may have forced him to "buy" the silence of his two former drivers via merit?
'Why don't we try to figure out the number of exempts who have received at least one merit promotion. Commanders of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15, 20, 25.
WHY have you failed to mention district 018? Angarone was a merit Lt. And Narcotics? O'Grady was a merit Lt. as well. I suspect Kenny is one also, but I could be wrong about him.
8/27/2010 01:35:00 AM
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Scott Ruiz competed in the triple jump - and Won!
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Anonymous said...
Several years ago they promoted 25 Capts who did not have 4yrs of college. They were told to get it in the NEXT 4yrs. 12 did not. 4yrs later 11 retired (with capt pension) and one was quietly demoted back to Lt.
....And one of the degree-less Captains was a toothless,illiterate gangbanger(SD)who not only never passed a test on this job....he never even took one.That includes the initial entrance exam.This job's been fucked from day 1.Always has been,always will be.
Why is it that most of the "bad test takers" that make merit are also complete jagoffs?
just axin
Leo Schmitz was a merit sergeant and merit lieutenant. He also was selected for captain's training and was subsequently put on the captain's eligibility list, but before a captain's spot became available Cline made him a commander. Now you know why he took Cline to the Super Bowl every year. Believe it - it's the truth.
Why don't we try to figure out the number of exempts who have received at least one merit promotion. Commanders of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15, 20, 25.
8/26/2010 04:34:00 PM
Those of us in 013 will take our current Commander over any other we've had in the last 15 years...and there have been many...
Class act who backs up her officers and also has great relationships with the community.
Merit... Rewad earned through extraordinary measure of heroism benefiting the community. The act, throughly documented, should be celebrated by the media and used to demonstrate to the good citizens of Chicago how some officers go above and beyond the call of duty. Such strategy would warm the heart of our constituency, although might cause Shanks & Co serious hemorrage:)
Anonymous said...
Several years ago they promoted 25 Capts who did not have 4yrs of college. They were told to get it in the NEXT 4yrs. 12 did not. 4yrs later 11 retired (with capt pension) and one was quietly demoted back to Lt. Try that in the private sector. Hey, maybe they will hire me as the editor of the Tribune or Scum-times then I'll go to journalism school
8/26/2010 01:14:00 PM
You forgot one, Rick Elmer. Got dumped back to Lt., got his degree (finally) and was made a capt. again. Now he is a commander. Is a good guy, but still didn't get the degree in time and got dumped. Don;t tell me he didn't know he was going to get the extra bar back!
Great guy, but your wrong he was merit twice. From Sgt to Lt. and then again to Commander, with less then 2 years as a Lt.
Really....are there any exempts that aren't appointed. Was there a commanders test no one told me about? Maybe a deputy superintendent test? I will say this, it's amazing how many exempts are "bad test takers".
NOT SPOON FED THE ANSWER THEY ARE GIVEN THE QUESTION.
REMEMBER ARE EXEMPTS PUT IN THE QUESTION THEY WANT TO THE COMPANY THAT ADMINISTER THE TEST.
U KNOW WHAT COLOR INK IS ON A SEARCH WARRANT?
IF THE FED REALLY WANTED TO INVESTIGATE ALL THEY WOULD HAVE 2 DO IS .
PULL THE TEST AND SEE WHO DIDNT TAKE THE 2ND PART OF THE TEST.
PULL ALL THE MERIT PICKS AND THERE APPLICATION.
FIND WHO PUT THEM IN FOR THE PROMOTION AND IF THE REALLY WORKED FOR THE PERSON.
NEXT THEY SHOULD PULL ALL THE TRIPLE MERIT HACKS.
THESE ASS CLOWNS WOULD HAVE 2 BE ON A LIE BOX!
BUT THE FEDS CANT EVEN DO A BRIBERY CASE FOR BLAGO CALLING NO WITNESSES AND THEN NOT LETTING THE MONEY CHANGE HANDS WHAT A BUNCH OF STROKES.
Elmer's a nice guy, still active in the reserves, but ya gotta be a little soft to NOT be able to get a degree from SOMEWHERE in 4 years.
Even that half-assed Calumet College gives out a B/A in about 2 years, Jeez...
Yep. Keane a great guy and good boss but yes merit. Wick 024. Merit Lt and third choice as Commander the first two didn't want it. Kenny. Not merit. Mealer,proof you can score well and still be a moron.
8/27/2010 11:22:00 AM
Which 2 had the good sense to turn it down? District Commander = Shit Job
Note to J-Fled: In the infamous words of Jack Nicholson, "Go sell crazy some place else, we're all stocked up here"
A "promised promotion" is the only way J-Fled can get anyone to get in the car with him & be seen in public.
RE Merit promotions:
I hope the FOP, who has a list of all who took the test, will assure the ranks that those promoted meritoriously actually took the test. There are rumors that some who were recently promoted meritoriously didn't even take the exam. Please verify FOP.
I guess Goldsmith will win the coveted "Driving Miss Daisy" award in his Sgt. class when they graduate in the middle of September.
Scott Ruiz is a class act on and off of the job.
Dedore is probably one of the best street cops on this job. Maybe in the history of this job.
All you people bashing Jack Dedore should really shut up. Years ago (like 20) I worked 013 tact and Jack was 010 tact. I used to see him in Branch 57 and all the other courts on a weekly basis. I know he made a lot of arrests and was the real deal. I'm glad to see he got promoted. He's been a hard working cop his whole career. Good Luck, Jack. And congratulations.
ML, Area 5
hey hair gel
there's plenty of hard workers that aren't meritpoliticalhacks
don't they desrve sgt pay
hard worker doesn't mean you're a good sgt or better than the hard worker that passed the test
Anonymous said...
I give up. "Merit"; Ha Ha!, how about making some legit classes-no merit- so we can get some people out there that know the general orders, law etc.
What future does this department have? How is it going to function in 5, 10, 20 years...
8/26/2010 12:51:00 AM
It will function without me, that's for goddamn sure. Some new clout guy will be here, maybe Goldstein or Goldsmith or someone working for Mayor Patrick Daley.
Frankly, I don't give a damn.
Anonymous said...
hey hair gel
there's plenty of hard workers that aren't meritpoliticalhacks
don't they deserve sgt pay
8/30/2010 04:44:00 PM
"Deserve" has nothing to do with anything here. If it did, some would be in prison making license plates or baskets.
Anonymous said...
Message to Supt Weis: we all know that when someone is going to make a merit promotion they are miraculously placed back into patrol or some investigative unit prior to their merit promotion to make it look "legit".
I can't believe he made it sound his driver is so darn smart that he should now go into a unit because he's so articulate and POPW now made a merit sgt. This is truly political clout here, pure and simple. The merit system is a joke and continually stabs hard-working officers in the back.
8/26/2010 01:19:00 AM
And you discovered this when, recently?
At least years ago if you could find the right person to pay you got promoted.
I feel the promotions should go right to eBay so we all get a crack at them, high bidder gets the stripes.
The city is crying poor-mouth so why not, high bidder wins and the City can buy some new flower boxes and eBay makes some commission. Everyone is happy, interpersonal skills would have nothing to do with it. If weis' driver has the geetis in his PayPal account he gets promoted, if not, thanks for bidding.
Anonymous said...
Scott Ruiz is a class act on and off of the job.
Dedore is probably one of the best street cops on this job. Maybe in the history of this job.
8/28/2010 05:22:00 PM
Ever heard of Frank Pape kid?
He survived more than a dozen gunfights without a scratch. Put nine in the ground. Without a vest or high capacity 9mm or verbal judo.
Read up a little:
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/03/12/us/frank-pape-celebrated-chicago-police-detective-dies-at-91.html
Anonymous said...
RE Merit promotions:
I hope the FOP, who has a list of all who took the test, will assure the ranks that those promoted meritoriously actually took the test. There are rumors that some who were recently promoted meritoriously didn't even take the exam. Please verify FOP.
8/28/2010 11:11:00 AM
I went through the academy 24 years ago. We had a recruit who made the box of rocks look intelligent. He flunked the law test 3 times.
But he was the son of a commander of housing south. So, on the last day of the academy he was given one last chance to take the law test, alone, in private, away from the prying eyes of the rest of us who took and passed the law test the first time.
Lo and behold he passed and came marching into the class triumphantly holding his new star, hours before he was due to report to work in the 003rd district.
Do you think the fix was in?
Sometime later he was ordered down for a pee test and resigned instead. So occasionally there is some tiny bit of justice in this corrupt goddamn cesspool.
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DUMP DALEY 2011, may that drumbeat grow into a deafening roar!
Ever heard of Frank Pape kid?
He survived more than a dozen gunfights without a scratch. Put nine in the ground. Without a vest or high capacity 9mm or verbal judo.
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Kid??
I knew him before I came on the job, so go fuck yourself.
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