Tuesday, August 24, 2010

Investigation Going Viral?

  • Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis is facing questions about a very critical blog written by a police lieutenant.

    The author, John Andrews, is now under investigation by internal affairs, and knows he very well could lose his job for publicly criticizing those running the department. He minces no words in his blog or in his defense of it.

    "We have lost control of maintaining social order in many parts of Chicago, we are undermanned, we're wore out, staffing is at dangerous levels, leadership is absent and some of those who claim to be our leaders are incompetent," Andrews said.

We don't know about any of our readers, but we're forwarding this to everyone we can think of. This has the potential to go national.

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181 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's just speaking the TRUTH!!!

8/24/2010 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The idiot who instituted this investigation of Lt Andrews should have realized that it was counterproductive.

Typical dumbass move from the glorious leaders of our fine department.

8/24/2010 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn't 'nintendo get a cr# too for discredit to the department because more and more officers are openly admitting what a dope he is? He has lost control of the department which brings on more attention from the media.

For all aspiring 'nintendos in the fbi, thank this jagoff for ruining your retirement gig.

8/24/2010 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the fuck has ever somebody wriiten something about CPD that has been the truth???? C'mon now! The media will be happier if publishing this story will get a police LT. fired than if not!

8/24/2010 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So does Lt. Andrews write his cr# to the 011th district commander? How ironic since she should be demoted or fired for her fuck up.

jody sure knows how to pick 'em.

8/24/2010 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch your asses out there and don't do anything stupid.

The powers that be are livid over this and they will do anything to create a diversion, like screw over a copper to switch the attention to him instead of them.

They're gonna be looking for any reason to create a story so the media can have fun with one of us hoping the John Andrews letter is put on the backburner.

8/24/2010 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is gonna be bigger than 'The Annoying Orange'.

8/24/2010 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope it does go national. We need HELP!

8/24/2010 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LT Andrews has always been a good boss during my time in 011. He's definitely the kind of leader I wished we had more of.

8/24/2010 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It needs to. Media attention will keep his job safe, any move against him now will be seen as retribution by a cowardly regime. If the noise dies down he is screwed. Say what you will about the guy and his leadership abilities or his people skills. He takes his job seriously and is a wealth of knowledge. He had the balls to write what most of us are thinking and sign his name to it, which is more than I can say for myself. I just hope it doesn't bite him in the ass. Now lets see how far we can push this!!!!

8/24/2010 12:55:00 AM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

Just watched the interview with Supt Weis. My question is... why exactly isn't he listening to input from one of his key people? How is that 'throwing rocks' exactly?


As Leaders, shouldn't we be aware of the problems as well as what works?

8/24/2010 12:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So ernie brown brings credit for lying on his resume

cruthers brings credit in an fbi memo

henny penny bring credit by abusing her power to a subordinate

bartender brings credit by allowing drugs in her co-signed apartment

starks brings credit by not being able to pass a background check with the fbi for lying

The list continues. If I were Andrews or his lawyer, I'm sure they are demanding to bring these up and ask what is the standard for "discredit". Because you told the truth?

8/24/2010 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mayor Daley will be very proud that a Chicago Police Officer is standing up for his rights!

Right???????????

8/24/2010 01:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It should go national. This Dept is a national laughingstock under J-Fled, as this city is an International laughingstock under Shortshanks.

8/24/2010 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When i came on the job just 8 years ago we were the envy of most departments around the nation. Very well respected with a kick ass reputation. Now we are not even shadows of our old selves. We are totally out manned and have no respect on the streets. Every copper i know is afraid of getting fired or sued for everything, including myself.
We are in a self preservation mode now. I come first. I will not stick my neck out for the citizens anymore that will turn on me on a dime. They will report me for slapping some shit head gangbanger that terrorizes their neighborhood daily instead of thanking me.
To maintain order in a city like this you HAVE to get your hands dirty. You have to talk the talk and kick some ass once in a while to show these animals that are killing everyone that we mean business.
But we aren't allowed to anymore b/c some liberal thinkers would rather some asshole animal have the right to terrorize the neighborhood than to back the police trying to get rid of them.
It's such a sick and twisted city to be living in and the police are caught right smack dab in the middle. Really blows to be the police now.

8/24/2010 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the rights of gangbangers became more important than keeping the community safe from them you know you've lost the war.

8/24/2010 01:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I couldn't agree with the Lt more. I seriously would not follow one single one of my supervisors into a shit situation even if i was ordered to. I work in a district with complete idiots at the helm that have never been the police and spent 90% of their careers inside somewhere. They are afraid of everything and have absolutely no balls.
Thank the lord i have some great partners and some decent people on the watch that are heads and tails more knowledgable than any of our bosses.

8/24/2010 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure that it has already gone national. Several major columnist have already republished most of the article or at least published links to Andrew's blog.

8/24/2010 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrews may look like a crazed old goat, but he's got fire in his veins! ANDREWS FOR MAYOR 2011!!

8/24/2010 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know a person that spent one year on the street (mostly working the desk though) then straight to a permanent inside spot. After over 10 years of not working the street i see him/her on the promotion list for Sgt. Now how in the f*ck can you tell me that this person is worthy of a leadership spot. This person doesn't even know the basics of patrol or how to handle even the most basic situations, but yet this person is supposed to be our leader/boss. Give me a break.
This is what we are dealing with every day. Goof balls that don't have a clue trying to tell working coppers how to handle jobs that they've been handling for 20+ years.

8/24/2010 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll tell you what, not so long ago you used to love when a boss would pull up on your job b/c they wouldn't take any shit and would command respect otherwise Joe citizen was most definitely heading to the slammer. There was no talking back to the white shirt and the blue shirts were ready to pounce if and when given the order.
Now, I don't even want them anywhere near my jobs. Just a bunch of worthless merit promotees from some inside unit that have no idea what it's like to be an actual beat cop.

8/24/2010 01:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know who needs to be fired or removed from office & it isn't andrews.

8/24/2010 01:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Metit promotions are destroying this department. Especially when people outside the department (reverends/alderman/etc) are allowed a say in who gets promoted. They have no idea what it takes to really be a leader on this job. Only the people in the trenches with each other on a daily basis trully know who the leaders and followers are.

8/24/2010 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good for you, John! Keep swinging; you're not going to hit yourself.

8/24/2010 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you see on shaved's blog - reporter Craig starts out giggling "you know its bad when the head of news affairs get blasted by weis for not stopping the questions by reporters." What a big baby.

8/24/2010 01:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lesson 1 "Being responsible sometimes means pissing people off."

Now at first some of you might think that this conflicts with "respect for people." It doesn't. You have to have the guts to get rid of the bad apples before they poison an organization undergoing a transformation. You have to have the courage to confront conventional wisdom, even when your bosses hold that supposed wisdom. You know what? There's no way I can appropriately comment on these lessons, as I don't pretend to be in the same league as General Powell. So I'll let the rest stand on their own.

Lesson 2 "The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them."

Lesson 3 "Don't be buffaloed by experts and elite's."

Lesson 4 "Don't be afraid to challenge the pros, even in their own backyard."

Lesson 5 "Never neglect details. When everyone's mind is dulled or distracted the leader must be doubly vigilant.”

Lesson 6 "You don't know what you can get away with until you try.”

Lesson 7 "Keep looking below surface appearances. Don't shrink from doing so (just) because you might not like what you find.”

Lesson 8 "Organization doesn't really accomplish anything. Plans don't accomplish anything, either. Theories of management don't much matter. Endeavors succeed or fail because of the people involved. Only by attracting the best people will you accomplish great deeds.”

Lesson 9 "Organization charts are frozen, anachronistic photos."

Lesson 10 "Never let your ego get so close to your position that when your position goes, your ego goes with it.”

Lesson 11 "Fit no stereotypes. Don't chase the latest management fads. The situation dictates which approach best accomplishes the team's mission.”

Lesson 12 "Perpetual optimism is a force multiplier.”

Lesson 13 "Powell's Rules for Picking People. Look for intelligence and judgment and, most critically, a capacity to anticipate, to see around corners. Also look for loyalty, integrity, a high energy drive, a balanced ego and the drive to get things done.”

Lesson 14 "Great leaders are almost always great simplifiers, who can cut through argument, debate, and doubt to offer a solution everybody can understand.”

Lesson 15 "Laws of Instinct" Part I "Use the formula P@ 40 to 70, in which P stands for the probability of success and the numbers indicate the percentage of information acquired." Part II "Once the information is in the 40 to 70 range, go with your gut."

Lesson 16 "The commander in the field is always right and the rear echelon is wrong, unless proved otherwise.”

Lesson 17 "Have fun in your command. Don't always run at a breakneck pace. Take leave when you've earned it. Spend time with your families.”

Lesson 18 "Command is lonely.”

8/24/2010 02:05:00 AM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

A year ago last April, FOP reps for the entire CPD unanimously voted "no confidence" in the current "top cop". Add to that, over 3,000 people marched around City Hall demanding his ouster. John Andrews and I were there.

Yet J-Fled, pathological liar and coward, later said:

"If I...saw that I was the cause of (poor) morale in this department, no one would have to ask me to leave. I would leave on my own."

A year later and a couple of weeks after I filed a complaint against J-Fled for COWARDICE when he "gotta run" (the other way) from a still unsolved Englewood murder that occurred less than 45 seconds away, he attempted to defend his cowardice by saying (1)the (homicide) scene was "secured" ["secured"??? the shooter escaped on foot last seen heading in your direction, you worthless piece of shit] and (2) that had he responded, he would be a "distraction".

He then used the excuse that because I am retired, he would ignore my criticism because I had "no skin in the game".

Well, J-Fled. Your shameless and pathetic "excuses" for COWARDICE are transparent bullshit. You now have an articulate, courageous and passionate 11th Dist. lieutenant who definitely has "skin in the game". Let the First Amendment retaliation begin against a man bold enough to inform both concerned citizens and media and to jeopardize his livelihood as a proud member of "Chicago's Finest".

Passing my baton, I enthusiastically salute Lt. John Andrews as a godsend. Furthermore, I know that there will be "anonymous" cowards who will attempt to discredit Andrews on blog sites. I urge all to ignore them as J-Fled's desperate quislings.

THE TRUTH WILL OUT. GOD BLESS JOHN ANDREWS!

8/24/2010 03:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HOORAY!!!!! Maybe there is a news entity with some integrity that will make this issue as important as it should be. This J-Fled experiment has cost LIVES and everybody knows it. This thing should blow up in the shortguys face. The LT's position is bleeping golden and exempts have a moral and civic duty come out of the shadows to share what they know about this situation and go public. Hopefully Fox wont do a dispicable candy assed interview like the radio did with John Northen.

8/24/2010 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous let the sun shine . said...

exposure to the light is the best disinfectant

8/24/2010 05:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The superintendent was not happy.

"I think leaders in today's times should look to inspire, motivate and look for solutions to challenges," said Weis. "I don't think leaders should throw rocks at their respective agencies, at those who are actually trying to adress the challenges."


I think what he mean't to say was... "Look here lowly non-exempt don't you know who I am? I am ex-FBI and you guys are shit.I will bury you. I have gone to great lengths to convince every citizen that crime is down and to appease the revs with minoirity promotions. You should work with me not against me and maybe one day you too can share in glory. I make more money than the Mayor for christ sake and you dumbass non-fed coppers will do as I say or else suffer the consequences."

8/24/2010 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

where's o'bam bam on this?

8/24/2010 06:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fox news local had an "exclusive" which stated that jody was mad at his press person roderick drew for not cutting off questions about andrews from reporters! Guess he cannot take the heat time to resign now weis!

8/24/2010 06:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PoiceOne.com had the story on the front page of their site yesterday.

8/24/2010 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm voting for John Andrews for Mayor!

FUCK WEIS and DALEY!

8/24/2010 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is where it goes wrong & why.

Gps Works over a basic computer (PDT) to do your job.

The more worthless you are on the watch, the more they take care of you. The more they try and hide you.

Very few vets work tac these days. Now the trend is after 18 month you're ready to go. Newbies are the only ones willing to do the work. The other vets are afraid of change. Nobody in the right mind would ever work tac, ever!

Dude gets mouthy he go to jail. PERIOD

We are not a new dept anymore. Nobody will or won't stick their necks out. We're not stupid. No new guys to chase the bad guys

IRPA, trying to shove it up your ass

Haven't seen anybody in roll call in months/ years. Its nice to hear we are doing a good job. (After all crime is down right?)

Roll call is getting might lonely. We know we have no back up out here. Major saftey issue. Why do I need to step in shit when I know I have no support.

Get rid of this TRU & MSF and get back to the basics. Patrol could use a hand. The whole "I've been waived down at XXX S. King dr and she wants a report" "would you send the beat car" Tell you what asshole heres my fucking pen, I'll let you borrow it. You caught em you clean em!

Recruits when they're are off their cycles are no longer with FTO's. FTO's only need to work with recruits when they are on their cycles. No you took the job for the stripes you get a recruit the entire time there is one on the watch. You took the job, deal with it.


Signed South Side Dawg

8/24/2010 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Story online at Line of Duty . com

http://www.lineofduty.com/content/view/108498/26/

8/24/2010 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous "NO COMMENT" = MEDIA said...

The eerie silence of the rest of the Daley-controlled local media is deafening.

8/24/2010 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous An Old Sergeant said...

I seriously would not follow one single one of my supervisors into a shit situation even if i was ordered to.
=========================

Well, at least you don't have to worry about following the supe into a shit situation. He goes the other way.

8/24/2010 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all you top bosses know in your heart what John said is accurate and correct----So, stand up for him!! If enough of you stand together as one what is JFLED going to do---Get rid of you all!! NOT!! Remember back in the day when you were a blue shirt--remember how we all stood together---Don't leave Lt. Andrews out on a limb by himself--especially since you know what he said was correct--STAND BY HIM!!! LET THE DEPARTMENT KNOW YOU AGREE WITH JOHN!! LETS TAKE THE CPD BACK FROM THE FBI!!!!

8/24/2010 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Heh!

Heh-Heh!

Soooo...

We await rapturiously the sounds of woe and doom soon to be emanating from the feeb executive suites at 3510.

Random single gunshots from behind locked doors.... Penny loafers and mismatched socks runnning on air... The crunch of capsules between clenched teeth...

Crying and wailing from the "inner sanctum" as those who are not, never were and never will be The Police are coming to the realization that they who are much smarter than any copper (just ask them?) have reached the final point of diminished return...

You silly-assed feeb muthafuckahs have FINALLY OUTSMARTED YOURSELVES!

Hopefully the day is coming when Chicago Policemen will have the joy and honor of perp-walking all of you fools into the MCC while you're modeling the latest in paper jumpsuits (anti-suicide attire) for the TV cameras with a look on your faces that says "I just shit on myself... Really hard! MOM-MEEEEEE!"

The Lieutenant has decided that the truth needed telling. J-fled is full of shit about "people throwing rocks at the organization"

You fucking hack, hypocrite and notoriously thin-skinned, wise counsel ignoring, criticism adverse prick! What say you when the upper echelon of the organization is fixated with rolling house-sized boulders onto the heads of the "people" who make up the bulk of "the organization," then you want to punish them for having the gall to be unappreciative of the boulders?

We know better now more than ever before as to why free, decent and honorable men have in past times took action against tyrants and despots.

The tyrant class in Chicago does not slumber so peacefully at night as of late and it shows in their desperate bid to silence the Lieutenant and others who exercise their right and DUTY to sound the alrm when peace, safety and order are compromised and the well being of upright citizens is endangered by incompetence, venality and politics.

More sunlight please!

8/24/2010 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weis and company has no right to complain or investigate because they brought this shit on themselves.

Further, I hope Lt. Andrews starts a first amendment issue that goes all the way to the Supreme Court!

You go boy!

---not a cop

8/24/2010 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Strong words for a Lt. that has been on the job only 25 years. Usually it's the 5 year burnt out wonder who belly aches. J.A. is no belly acher, he's been consistent with his policies and beliefs regarding the Dept since I've know him. The Lt. still backs up his people on the street and takes assignments Unbeknowst to JFLED, the Lt. has always tried to better the Dept and has proved it with his patrolman credentials, even passing his promotional exams. It's unfortunate for all us working beat cars lost our leadership to the countless knuckleheads,twits and political hacks systematically promoted beyond their abilities. Now it's all Johns fault the Dept has failed the people we serve. THATS IT, the Lt. is why the CPD is dysfunctional! PROBLEM SOLVED! The City & Supt will blast his commentary, rather than clean house from the top down.
Still, I'd rather have an up turned mop with a bucket for a head be Mayor of this City, and while it's still allowable, by Constitutional law ...
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8/24/2010 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I were John I would be hoping that he faces Discipline. Can you say EEOC and whistler blower protection monster lawsuit. F.U. pay me. Or fix the friggin problem

8/24/2010 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. Andrews, the proven exprience, the working knowledge and the ability to speak the truth! Our new FOP President!

8/24/2010 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also remember when if a sgt pulled up to a job things were going to go my way...he had our back. Now, they just show up and say give the report.

One of my favorite memories, unauthorized block party refused to break up. Sgt had enough, got on the radio and said "lock up the block" that transmitted over about 20 radios and the animals scattered!

An old timer on the block thanked us and said he hasnt seen that shit since '68.

Wagon full of shitheads,no cr's,no trr's,no iod's.

Man that felt good!!

8/24/2010 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

in the future there will be no lt like ja
hang in there John , there's a million stories in this sanctuary city
mr mayor & JFLED why no enforcement in the 10th district illegal food vendors
who's the commander there , was the commander a merit sgt , lt and now exempt member promoted by JFLED
doesn't city ned the money
John's one of the lt's left on job that passed a sgt and lt test

soon all lt's will be selected like merit cloutorious captains
and exempt members

you don't hear any captains or command staff speasking out against cpd because they all know how they were promoted

8/24/2010 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody says leadership should inspire!

I guess he means like the four year wonder he pronoted to Commander!

Like the bartender, w/drugs and guns

Like his drivers that get promoted!

This should inspire!!!!!

8/24/2010 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harvey Kietel starring in "The Good Lieutenant"?

8/24/2010 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC let's start a pollCPD members that agree with Lt. Andrews
enter rank and agree or disagree next to it

Lt.- agree

8/24/2010 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At last! A clarion that speaks loud and clear from the top of a hill!
This guy is like Braveheart.

The dept will probobly snipe him from the shadows of the abyss....

8/24/2010 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So lets see after spending years as CAPS SGT in 008 Andrews gets promoted to LT and figures a gold star is right around the corner. Well it never comes. So knowing that he's never getting promoted he writes the article. I respect the fact that he signed his name to it but this Guy is a terrible boss and no friend to p.o.'s.

8/24/2010 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Morale, J-fled, what are you saying to the ones that studied and scored well on a test when you pass them over for some inside do nothing just to please Daily or their reverend sponsors? In some cases 3 times!!!! That's great for morale. Your telling them that they are shit, you don't want them, you don't care what they know, they don't know the right folks.

8/24/2010 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John's best defense to this allegation is to have this issue as public as possible. The courts have held that a police officer may speak about matters of public policy without fear.

Free Bill Cozzi.

8/24/2010 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Power of the Pen speaks the truth

8/24/2010 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous ADS B. Goldstein said...

Don't talk bad about the Boss! This is the best Sup i've ever seen! Well only one i've seen with my three years on.....

8/24/2010 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The cowards in positions of authority on this department (can't call them leadership positions because they don't lead) will use the GO's to try to get this guy for practicing his First Amendment rights to expose dangerous levels of incompetence.

Kind of reminds you of the FBI whistle blower who J-Fled messed with before he came here to screw up the CPD.

8/24/2010 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i love some of the comments left on the myfoxchicago website regarding this topic.

8/24/2010 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous docmac said...

It already has gone national at the law enforcement level.
http://www.lineofduty.com/content/view/108498/26/
has the article on their website. You have to register to access content.

8/24/2010 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe next media interview jfled can explain how in the last two sgt promotions his drivers have been made merit sgts. I had high hopes for an outsider to help fix this department but what a joke jfraud is.

8/24/2010 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The law abiding citizens of Chicago are 100% behind both this blog and Lt. John Andrews for his actions.

As someone who has personally worked to bring improvement to this City - on an ongoing basis, both on a corporate level and in my ward, I have personal experience with the political walls thrown up to keep you from reaching your desired results.

In 1992, this meant doing an outside audit of Chicago's budget to find $17 millions in unspent money so we could be a much-needed program funded. After arguing with the Mayor, both privately and publicly, we prevailed - but not until we threatened to take our case to the Feds as he was asking for $10 millions to clean up the deep-tunnel puncture when the city had the money - and we had the proof.

Some of us are working to get TIFF overturned and the money moved back to the taxing authorities. That will give CPD the immediate capability to hire 700 additional officers - if the money doesn't get hijacked internally.

Find a friend on the INSIDE. Get a copy of the City's budget. Find a friendly CPA - someone with a family member who is a Police Officer - and AUDIT CHICAGO'S BUDGET.

FOLLOW THE MONEY!

Then take your result to Fran Speilman at the Sun Times and to the Chicago Reader. They will listen and it will go a long way to help your cause!

8/24/2010 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know a person that spent one year on the street (mostly working the desk though) then straight to a permanent inside spot. After over 10 years of not working the street i see him/her on the promotion list for Sgt. Now how in the f*ck can you tell me that this person is worthy of a leadership spot. This person doesn't even know the basics of patrol or how to handle even the most basic situations, but yet this person is supposed to be our leader/boss. Give me a break.
This is what we are dealing with every day. Goof balls that don't have a clue trying to tell working coppers how to handle jobs that they've been handling for 20+ years.

8/24/2010 01:32:00 AM

It's simple!
While you were busy "playing police" and locking up bad-guys, court, details, cr#, more arrests...
He/she had the ability to sit securely on their ass in the safety of some office or behind a desk, and get paid to study.

Its been this way for years.

8/24/2010 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to go Lt. I am a blue shirt but thanks for speaking up on behalf of all us. You only told the truth.

8/24/2010 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He speaks the truth! Was at 35th meetings everywhere, talking about Andrews! He has balls,but we are short and yet the deputy insists that come oct 15th they ARE putting 80+ coppers divided at both airports! 50% bid 50% management, the media needs to look into this bullshit we are so short on the steets and the blood is flowing everyday, batteries on officers is through the roof. How many murders,batteries,10-1's etc at the airports? WTF! The deputy says homeland security is paying for it, well jagoffs at the top why not use that dough to pay for more street coppers! Just another place to put the clouted boys and girls right j-fled? Masters X9!

8/24/2010 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I seriously would not follow one single one of my supervisors into a shit situation even if i was ordered to."

You never would have to follow one of them; They'd simply tell you to go there, and get this job done, "warrior".

They'd then hang you out to dry if you did something "wrong".

This is one of the biggest issues working against the police department-few leaders, just "supervisors", pencil-pushing bureaucrats more concerned with their careers and what YOU can do to help them move up.

Very few leading from the front.

8/24/2010 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God Bless Lt. Andrews!

Now here is a boss that I would follow.

I wish my Department had brass with enough stones to tell Sheriff Harry Potter that he ain't wearing clothes either.

--Cook County Sheriff's Police
Markham Patrol, Midnights

8/24/2010 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scc repost the memo at the top!

8/24/2010 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why should he do this alone, without the faces and voices of his brothers in arms? It's real easy to cheer a guy on who has the balls. Not so much to get out there and offer support for him in public- catch 22.

8/24/2010 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scc....please for the sake of the copper involved, post this into it's own category...so the public and media see what this individual, who committed the home invasion on 20aug10, is and was really capable of.
http://blogs.southtownstar.com/tinleypark/2008/11/chicago-man-charged-with-tinle.html

8/24/2010 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as leadership goes in our district and on our watch; the constant borrowing of LT's to fill WC spots has left us "leaderless". These visiting Lt's are not doing much promote cohesiveness or show enduring support.

As officers; we come and do our job; nothing more. We do not feel "represented" because tomorrow another Lt will be here.

Lt. Andrews speaks the truth.

8/24/2010 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The newly appointed commander of the 007th District, the one who was awarded a merit sgt pick after 1 day as a cmdr, was recently told to go home by Area 1 Deputy EW. It was late on a recent Friday night and the new commander was drunk as a skunk. Carrying on about "a new fucking sheriff in town", "cleaning up this motherfucker", "locking these motherfuckers up". It was a surreal thing to see.

8/24/2010 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everything Andrews says is 100% spot on. Also I am beginning to see something I have not seen in years. People are frequently stopping on the street to thank me for being the police and to show their support. I actually think some of them understand what we are going through. Now if only thay will step up and vote against Daley. Voting him out is the key to saving the CPD.

8/24/2010 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Concerned Chicagoan said...

J-Fled is not only toxic to the morale of the CPD. He is Stage IV CANCER. He should have been fired long ago.

Like an ostrich, Mayor Daley hides his head in the sand in denial. A reality check is long overdue.

Kudos to Lt. John Andrews. I hope he picks up the torch that John Northen lit. The story is now on CBS Channel 2.

What's with the editors/producers of the
Tribune, WGN, NBC and ABC TV news? Reverse payola? Quid pro quo?

If the City is dumb enough to retaliate against Lt. Andrews for telling the truth, they deserve their fate in federal court but not at taxpayer expense.

James O'Shea and his staff at the Chicago News Cooperative contribute to the New York Times. He wrote an excellent article ("Despite Progress, Police Chief Still Struggles") which appeared in Section 1 of the Sunday, April 18 issue of the New York Times.

Don't underestimate the weekly Reader if local media goes for a Chicago-style cover-up.

Keep up the good work, SCC. I've recommended your site to some of my neighbors after CPD neighbors told me about it. The public must be informed that corrupt politics have paralyzed Chicago's Finest. Every citizen should be concerned when it comes to matters of public safety.

8/24/2010 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

starks brings credit by not being able to pass a background check with the fbi for lying

The list continues. If I were Andrews or his lawyer, I'm sure they are demanding to bring these up and ask what is the standard for "discredit". Because you told the truth?

8/24/2010 12:58:00 AM
Here's another: the boss that faked a slip-n-fall outside the WC's office in full view of the desk crew: went IOD to study for a degree.

8/24/2010 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey I just watched the video from Fox and read the whole article and like what this guy wrote. I don't know him but really like this guy. He seems like the type of person that needs to have a position in the command staff or an elected position in city government. I would love to work for someone that is not afraid to stick his neck out and tell the truth.

CFD member.

8/24/2010 11:37:00 AM  
Blogger staysafe said...

For those who keep belly aching that clout put these supervisors in charge, you did not know that before you came on the job?
Clout has always been involved with promotions...lest we forget, "notify the Watch Commander" fiasco.
Just ask "NORTHSIDE."
And you haven't figure out that slapping suspects/offenders will jam you up?
The "smart guys" stopped doing that shortly after the "G" started indicting guys in the 70's for doing that same thing.
And for "anonymous" with 8 whole years on...I got shoes that have been on longer than you.
You, should have gone on the Fire Department!
This job is not for you.
I sometimes can't believe the crap I read here.

8/24/2010 12:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have forwaded t Matt Drudge and Pat Dllard

8/24/2010 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard that Mrs. Starks is the listed plaintiff of the Sgts Association lawsuit.

8/24/2010 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you Lt. Andrews for doing what many of us did not have the courage to do. Retaliation from the brass seems to be the way to handle whistle blowers within the Department. Sadly, those of us who struggle to work our way to retirement regretfully put up with the political corruption and to the erroneous decision making processes of the Department. There is a great deal of internal chaos within the Department and if more members had the courage to speak up the public would get an ear full. I would take a look into the most recent promotions of Deputy Superintendent Ernest Brown, a man with several internal sexual harassment complaints against him and 007th District Commander Anthony Carothers, brother of Isaac "Ike" Sims Carothers former corrupt Alderman of the 29th ward. The question we should ask is, “WHY” these individuals were promoted to high ranking positions; and what their affiliation is with former corrupt Alderman Carothers? There is a laundry list of questions that need to be addressed. Unfortunately the public doesn’t have any clue what is really going on internally within the Department—it is time to spill the bean. Thanks again Lt. Andrews.

8/24/2010 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous acuvue oasys said...

Huh?

WHAT!?

The guy makes very fair observations! He just wants the palce to be better and he's now in line to lose his job?

What on earth is this madness?

8/24/2010 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. Andrews and John Northern should run for office. End the corruption and bring reforms to city government.

Is the F.O.P. going to back these officers? Most think F.O.P. is part of the problem.

8/24/2010 02:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fitzgerald , federal monitor where are you
mr weiss has promoted over 100 command staff ,30%cloutorious
merit sgt and lt ' s
100 % merit cloutorious captains

please who's destroying cpd , find out who is really making these appointments

most captains and command staff were merit cloutorious sgt and lt

8/24/2010 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So after the cameras stopped rolling, J-Fled started bitching at the news affairs spokesperson for not cutting off the reporters. Beautiful. Finally, even Shortshanks will know that JFled is crispy well done. Stick a fork in him. Adios, mofo!

8/24/2010 02:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE TRUTH IS COMING OUT THANK YOU! This man is a leader and the kind of leadership this department needs again so that we can take back the streets and city.

Thank You Boss for being our voice.

Andrews for Superintendent

8/24/2010 02:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The first thing the Supt should have done was invite the fine Lt. to his office for a one on one meeting to address the concerns of a working police Lt. (011th dist) As a leader you are only as good as the people working for you. If i were the Supt., i would welcome his concerns and thank him for brining them to light and act on implementing his solutions instead of blasting him at a media conference.

This goes for most of the information posted on this blog. instead of being mad about SCC and the postings, it could be used as an avenue to address a vast majority of the problems the working PO of the CPD faces each and every shift.

this is where his lack of basic leadership shows. 20 years with the FBI, some at the leadership level, is nowhere near the equivilent of what a working Sgt or Lt deal with in one weeks time.

In Philly, he may have had a few hundred employees to include admin staff under his dircect command. And now he is expected to run the second largest police department in the country with inept asst dep supts. it is ludicrous. Maybe an Assistant Director of a federal agency could handle being supt due to the complexity of the numerous issues they deal with. But an SAC of an average size office just doesnt have the experience needed to run the CPD. He is way in over his head, wont admit it and doesnt have the real police experience to attack the crime that is ramping up in this town.

The mayor brought him in because of his terrorism experience and his time spent on some violent crime task force. The smoke and mirrors passed for concrete and brick and it is now being revealed.

Good luck, please don't give up. As my father used to say, this to shall pass. Brighter days are ahead. There are many of us out here who have your backs 100% and know you are between a rock and a hard place. Be safe first, and back up your fellow officers at all times. Dont bitch about the little things even though it is good to vent to those who understand. Remember there are great days as well on the job and the things you see will last a life time. Believe it or not, you will miss it when it is over and you will shake your head thinking back to what you saw, heard and did.

God Bless!

8/24/2010 02:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Media, I know you read this Blog. Please do not ignore this John Andrews is the Jerry McGuire of the Department. It takes a man of courage and honor to lead and stand up. Andrews has done just that and has support city wide from the working Police Officers that have had enough. Thank You Boss, Lt Andrews I support you one hundred and ten percent.

8/24/2010 02:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic but is similar to most of the leadership of the CPD
this will be in two posts
This was written by Ted Nugent

There are no words to express the outrage Americans would have expressed if the Japanese government proposed to build a memorial to their fallen soldiers at Pearl Harbor immediately following World War II. We can only hope that President Truman would have ordered our military to fire-bomb the Japanese again for being so rude and stupid.

Slice it any way you want but the Muslim community is being tremendously rude and stupid for wanting to build a mosque so close to Ground Zero in New York City. Instead of using the $100 million for their proposed mosque, I recommend they donate the cash to the U.S. military so that we can build more smart bombs to kill more voodoo Muslim radicals. That would earn my respect and admiration.

Killing more Muslim terror punks would make the world a more peaceful place to live, and safer for more Muslims, and we all know that Islam is the religion of peace. Yeah, right.

Let's call a spade a spade here. If Islam is the religion of peace then I'm a malnourished, tofu-eating anti-hunter.

That fact is that much of the world's terrorism is committed by Muslims in the name of Allah. These voodoo nutjobs believe that, according to the Koran, killing non-believers makes Allah happy.

Moreover, Muslim-run countries provide the funds and other support for this terrorism and indoctrinate their youth to hate all things Western. Killing is good. Peace is bad. And we are supposed to believe Islam is a peaceful religion?

8/24/2010 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ted Nugent continues:

Islam is no more a peaceful religion than Jim Jones was a Christian prophet. Islam attracts violent maniacs stuck in the year 700, reduces women to third-class citizens, discriminates, persecutes and kills Christians and burns their churches, stones people for punishment, and believes in world domination. Saudi Arabia, a Muslim theocracy, goes so far as to outlaw all other religions other than Islam. Sounds like real nice, neighborly Islamic folks.

Sure, there are peaceful Muslims who abhor violence. Not all Muslims are religious whacks who deserve a bullet. But the statistics are alarming. Last November, Newsmax reported Muslim imams preach jihad and extremism in 10% of the 2,000 mosques right here in the United States. The same article reported that, according to Pew Research Center poll, 25% of Muslims in America between the ages of 18-29 believe suicide bombings can be justified. Just keep telling yourself that Islam is the religion of peace.

The President is right when he stated Americans enjoy the freedom to purchase private property and to worship as they choose. He was wrong, however, in not forcefully condemning the rude and insensitive Muslims who want to build the mosque so close to Ground Zero. Not only did our rookie President miss a pivotal and teachable moment but he also missed a leadership opportunity in failing to condemn the Muslims who want to build the mosque near Ground Zero. This is classic "rubbing it in their face" 101.

Proposing to build a mosque so close to Ground Zero is an additional and intentional stick in the eye to the USA and most egregiously to the families of those who were murdered at the hands of Islamic killers. If the Muslims who want to build the mosque can't see and admit that, then they are truly blind to tolerance, understanding and decency—or they have another agenda that warrants increased surveillance by law enforcement.

Bottom line: I don't trust the proposed Muslim mosque to be a holy bastion of peace, understanding, tolerance and love of others. The mosque will attract extremists and radicals who will try to harm America. If you want to see how tolerant Muslims are just have a bunch of Christians stand on the sidewalk in front of the mosque and hand out Christian literature.

The problem America faces is not radical Muslims. The problem is that America lacks fundamental leadership and common sense from our elected officials who worship at the alter of political correctness. Instead of standing with the victims' families of 9/11, New York City politicians chose to cast their lot with Islam, the supposed religion of peace and harmony. Me, I am not singing that tune.

If there is additional American blood spilled in the Big Apple, the politicians who supported this mosque will be as guilty as the Muslim voodoo kooks who love death and destruction in the name of Allah.

Like it or not, there is a line drawn in the sand. Which side do you stand on?

8/24/2010 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Top-notch.....top notch

8/24/2010 03:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Free speech!!

8/24/2010 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats wrong with the truth???

8/24/2010 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is there an investigation? There was a certain Sgt. from 024 who on his last day sent out a district wide pdt msg to the 024 dist. stating how bad things have gotten and to not trust the supervisors especially J-Fled. In a week that now retired Sgt. got called to J-Fleds office and given a city job, in charge of Police morale! LT. Andrews should be promoted for speaking the truth and having the balls to stand up to the assholes running this Dept and City!
Hey Ritchie n Jody, GFY!
A northside copper.

8/24/2010 03:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The boat has sunk ladies and gents, keep your guns close to you and ammo stocked, this city is not far from becoming complete ghetto and a shithole all around.

8/24/2010 03:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aside from Mike Shields, Lt. John Andrews and John Northen, why don't some high-ranking KMA members come forward about the J-Fled disaster and that there is no morale because of him. No balls at all. Just me, me, me.

8/24/2010 04:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jagoff J-Fled won't take a hint or even a wack with a sledge hammer. Doesn't he understand that he has no respect and that we despise him?

God bless Lt. Andrews.

Why doesn't the media let the public know how terrible things are? J-Fled should be long gone.

8/24/2010 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget the man behind the curtin: Richard M. Daley. J-Fled is his puppet via Masters, Masters, Masters.

8/24/2010 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

keep it up, LT...lets get them on the run

8/24/2010 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real shame of all this is that only one boss has actually spoken up for the truth! ONE!

8/24/2010 04:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats this we hear??? Captain Chuckie AKA, Captain Bi-Polar, Aka I am women hear me roar... Yes none other than the beloved 3rd watch Captain of 017 is now stomping her foot and demanding change.


Thats right...Captain Chuckie is going to get our watch back in shape. Dont be late, answer yes mam or here mam only. And always have a good valid reason ready when she asks you why you need to take time due or where your going. Remember thats her business too and she has every right to ask us!

She will not tolerate slackers. Never take your eyes off of her during roll call. And for God sakes dont use the computer in the roll call room. She is terrified of Groucho upstairs so look out 3rd watch...she will be head hunting for us all.

God forbid you just make work tollerable... maybe that would turn us around. We hear 2nd watch is running like a clock. We wonder why that is? Hmmmmmmmm

You need major couch time lady!

8/24/2010 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read Lt. John Andrews blog. Looks like a nice abstract for an interesting book.

---not a cop

8/24/2010 05:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sent to producer (friend from college) at FOX News (national).

8/24/2010 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too many beat cars going in one 1 rock / 5 dime bag arrests.

"2612 Hold me going into 026 w/1 and 2622 is going to transport."

Exchange star #'s, what you saw, what you could testify to & be on the same page.

That has to change!

TRU does this everyday, but Sgt's need to step up.

8/24/2010 05:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So lets see after spending years as CAPS SGT in 008 Andrews gets promoted to LT and figures a gold star is right around the corner. Well it never comes. So knowing that he's never getting promoted he writes the article. I respect the fact that he signed his name to it but this Guy is a terrible boss and no friend to p.o.'s.

8/24/2010 09:00:00 AM"


and your opinion on the content of the article?

or did the content slip your mind?

8/24/2010 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) Wonder if this is anything like the Michigan ave savage attacks on tourists! http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20100824/NEWS01/8240366/Police-say-it-s-very-possible-attacks-near-fairgrounds-had-racial-overtones

ALWAYS CARRY, ALWAYS BE READY TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY! FUCKING ANIMALS NEED TO BE PUT DOWN!

8/24/2010 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. Andrews did not embarass the Department. the current leadership has embarassed the Department by not having the slightest idea of how to police. Too many have been promoted way beyond their capabilities. These promotions are a result of daley's desire to maintain political support from the communities he promoted from. daley cares little about the concerns and safety of Working Class Chicago. daley has 24-7 bodyguards. When he leaves office he'll no doubt move to a Safer community outside of Chicago, Il.

Lt. Andrews should be saluted for having the courage to "tell it like it is" ! J-Fled, Mike Masters (the pretend cop) & the rest of the political hacks should be fired to make room for the "Real Police" to allow the Department to get back on track.

Three Cheers for Lt. Andrews !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck daley, J-Fled and all his "carpetbaggers" !!!!!!!

8/24/2010 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Did you see on shaved's blog - reporter Craig starts out giggling "you know its bad when the head of news affairs get blasted by weis for not stopping the questions by reporters." What a big baby.

8/24/2010 01:55:00 AM

J-Fled You are the laughing Stock of the Law Enforcement Community. You started a shit storm & it is the responsibility of the press to call you out & explain why you can't lead. This isn't Soviet Russia where the press is told what they can/cannot ask an Official. Suck it up Mellon Head !!! Time to start earning those big $$$$$$ your are being paid.

8/24/2010 06:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The newly appointed commander of the 007th District, the one who was awarded a merit sgt pick after 1 day as a cmdr, was recently told to go home by Area 1 Deputy EW. It was late on a recent Friday night and the new commander was drunk as a skunk. Carrying on about "a new fucking sheriff in town", "cleaning up this motherfucker", "locking these motherfuckers up". It was a surreal thing to see.

8/24/2010 11:25:00 AM


**********************************************

As the song goes: "All I gotta do is Act naturally" !!!!

8/24/2010 06:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The newly appointed commander of the 007th District, the one who was awarded a merit sgt pick after 1 day as a cmdr, was recently told to go home by Area 1 Deputy EW. It was late on a recent Friday night and the new commander was drunk as a skunk. Carrying on about "a new fucking sheriff in town", "cleaning up this motherfucker", "locking these motherfuckers up". It was a surreal thing to see.

8/24/2010 11:25:00 AM

Probably got piss drunk because his INDICTMENT is coming!!

8/24/2010 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

The newly appointed commander of the 007th District, the one who was awarded a merit sgt pick after 1 day as a cmdr, was recently told to go home by Area 1 Deputy EW. It was late on a recent Friday night and the new commander was drunk as a skunk. Carrying on about "a new fucking sheriff in town", "cleaning up this motherfucker", "locking these motherfuckers up". It was a surreal thing to see.

8/24/2010 11:25:00 AM


Why isn't IAD stripping this commander for being drunk on duty? Why didn't he blow the breathalyzer like any PO would have to do? Why isn't someone getting a CR# on that man? Why is that miserable corrupt puke allowed to do this shit and why the fuck is jodypweis not taking immediate disciplinary action towards a member of his command staff?

If anyone saw this why the hell is there not a complaint generated?

8/24/2010 07:14:00 PM  
Anonymous 29 and a day said...

wow What a guy

8/24/2010 07:16:00 PM  
Blogger O. W. Wilson said...

What the hell have these incompetent hacks done to a once proud police department? Jesus Christ almighty, what a mess.

8/24/2010 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats this we hear??? Captain Chuckie AKA, Captain Bi-Polar, Aka I am women hear me roar... Yes none other than the beloved 3rd watch Captain of 017 is now stomping her foot and demanding change.


Thats right...Captain Chuckie is going to get our watch back in shape. Dont be late, answer yes mam or here mam only. And always have a good valid reason ready when she asks you why you need to take time due or where your going. Remember thats her business too and she has every right to ask us!

She will not tolerate slackers. Never take your eyes off of her during roll call. And for God sakes dont use the computer in the roll call room. She is terrified of Groucho upstairs so look out 3rd watch...she will be head hunting for us all.

God forbid you just make work tollerable... maybe that would turn us around. We hear 2nd watch is running like a clock. We wonder why that is? Hmmmmmmmm

You need major couch time lady!

8/24/2010 05:12:00 PM
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When did DD go to third watch???

8/24/2010 07:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For whatever the reason, Lt. Andrews did more than any of us has been willing to do, he has put his money where his mouth is and called a spade a spade. You CANNot and SHOuld Not take away from that. Any and everyone sympathetic to the cause should remember that and refrain from diminishing his efforts, no matter what you think of him personally. He has stepped up to lead the charge, and I support him 200%.

8/24/2010 07:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI.....


Judge: Sheriff Dart on target on Shakman
August 23, 2010 
BY SARAH OSTMAN Chgo Sun-Times

The Cook County Sheriff’s Office has made strides toward complying with the Shakman decree, a federal judge said Monday.
U.S. District Judge Sidney Schenkier said Sheriff Tom Dart has made “significant progress” by laying out new standards for hiring, firing and promotions and investigating complaints of political discrimination.
The Shakman decree is the longstanding federal court order that bars politics from being a consideration in most hiring and firing for local government jobs in Chicago and Cook County.
The sheriff’s office has been working with court-appointed Shakman monitors for three years.
The judge said he expects the department to be in full compliance by its next check-in this fall.vJudge: 

8/24/2010 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He has the P.O.'s support, but where are the rest of the white shirts? Still drinking the Kool Aid!

8/24/2010 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In Philly, he (J-Fled) may have had a few hundred employees to include admin staff under his dircect command.

No, he didn't. J-Fled managed an office of 110 employees. Hell, our District Commanders here manage far more bodies than that!
You can't even compare the experience our command staff has with what little managerial experience Weis had.

8/24/2010 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Heard that over 20 of the new Sgt's were never Aira trained! How can this be?

8/24/2010 07:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LT J.A. Is 51yrs old, he lucky that he LT, He is most likely needs and up grade in his medicine, We all no that we cant fight city hall and win. Old northside Wagonman.

8/24/2010 08:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8/24 301pm

Why would you put anything on here from that draft dodging pussy Nugent? He had his chance to be a big bad ass killer but he chose to shit and piss his pants so he could beat the draft. Idiots like this hero worship Nugent and you guys wonder what happened to this job?????

8/24/2010 08:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Bklyn North said...

It's on THEE (NYPD) RANT. See topic "Hey Polecat..."

Lt. Andrews has to be one ballsy guy.

8/24/2010 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some people will be moving soon before merit LT list is put out in Sept. They will do it when new Sgt class gets it's assignments (coming out in less than two weeks). They hope people will focus on where the sgts are going. That way some group members going to organized crime won't be noticed. They need to move them cause the new director has no use for them and the guy who used them as his personal secretaries won't need them at least until after he gets pinned LT and can take them to E&TD (operations LT spot) and then SWAT.

8/24/2010 08:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"So lets see after spending years as CAPS SGT in 008 Andrews gets promoted to LT and figures a gold star is right around the corner. Well it never comes. So knowing that he's never getting promoted he writes the article. I respect the fact that he signed his name to it but this Guy is a terrible boss and no friend to p.o.'s.

8/24/2010 09:00:00 AM"

Andrews is a jag. Never cared for him and yes, you are right, he is absolutely no friend to the blue shirts and he is a terrible boss. And, we agree, the sob wrote the truth and signed his name to it. I, as you, give him a boatload of credit and respect for doing so, regardless of his motivation, even though I agree the motivation is his having reached the cul-de-sac of his career. He will be a modern-day and long-known hero to us and our organization, which is way different than J-FLED's organization, as will the first exempt sworn that stands with him. Masters X's 100.

8/24/2010 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Lt. Andrews, the proven exprience, the working knowledge and the ability to speak the truth! Our new FOP President!

8/24/2010 08:23:00 AM
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You're very unclear on the concept.

8/24/2010 09:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So lets see after spending years as CAPS SGT in 008 Andrews gets promoted to LT and figures a gold star is right around the corner. Well it never comes. So knowing that he's never getting promoted he writes the article. I respect the fact that he signed his name to it but this Guy is a terrible boss and no friend to p.o.'s.

8/24/2010 09:00:00 AM"

Let's see, his last job as a sgt was working the watch in 005. Before that he was in Area 2 det's, before that Area 4 det's and before thar Auto Theft det's. So exactly when did he spend years as a CAPS sgt in 008?

8/24/2010 09:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"2612 Hold me going into 026 w/1 and 2622 is going to transport."

8/24/2010 05:44:00 PM

2612 really?

When did you graduate from the academy?

8/24/2010 09:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please do not ignore this John Andrews is the Jerry McGuire of the Department.

******************

It's "Maguire" there chief. A weak mind is easily led.

8/24/2010 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fitzgerald , federal monitor where are you

8/24/2010 02:20:00 PM

Fitzgerald is busy indicting coppers; maybe you're next?

8/24/2010 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Luck! Thanks for having the guts that we as Police Officers would hope ALL of our bosses would have.

8/24/2010 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I inquired about Lt. Andrews with a good friend of mine who is a long-time Chicago Cop. I was told he's a good man.

Then I went over to his blog and read his writing and it became obvious he's a good man. He obviously spent hours putting together his assessment on the CPD and his writings show he is thoughtful and loves the Department.

The "haters" here (fortunately few) sicken me. What have you "haters" risked to address the cancer that permeates throughout the CPD?

If not for guys like Lt. Andrews, the CPD would be headed down the drain faster then it is.

He's taken one for the team. Now have his back.

And to the heretofore ball-less Chicago media out there, grow a pair.

To the citizens, get off your ass and make some noise in support of these men and women who put their ass on the line every day in spite of the clusterfucked leadership.

Daley and J-Fled are finished.

Buck Naked
(not a cop)

8/24/2010 09:34:00 PM  
Anonymous 7 Ranger said...

No, Carothers drunk on duty and the Deputy Chief sent him home NO WAY!Maybe he wanted to increase the DOPW arrest in 007. Was a CR # pulled for unfit for duty?

8/24/2010 09:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bravo! thanks for telling it like it is Lt!

8/24/2010 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The newly appointed commander of the 007th District, the one who was awarded a merit sgt pick after 1 day as a cmdr, was recently told to go home by Area 1 Deputy EW. It was late on a recent Friday night and the new commander was drunk as a skunk. Carrying on about "a new fucking sheriff in town", "cleaning up this motherfucker", "locking these motherfuckers up". It was a surreal thing to see.

Why the hell wasn't a CR# issued by that other Clout heavy and promoted way over his abilities and never passed a promotional exam Deputy EW against the new sheriff in town?

8/24/2010 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's about time a boss came out and told the truth. All these political hacks that run the department have no clue. Lt. Andrews for Mayor, I man who speaks the truth!!!

8/24/2010 09:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please explain the merit sgt promotions to your last two personal drivers Superintendent Weis. This is not right and sends out a message to those officers in beat cars and those detectives out there doing police work that how you get "merited" is who you know at 35th st. I thought there was a "monitor" watching this exact type of hiring and promotions. Another nail in the morale coffin, thanks.

8/24/2010 09:44:00 PM  
Blogger Cpdcoppurr said...

You are viral SCC!!!!!! AGAIN.... So much for being insignificant...... The magnificent INSIGNIFICANT' S, must me changing their Depends Diapers right about now..... Your blog hit this article TWICE....... GOOD FOR YOU!!!!! Excellent blog as always.. KUDO's.......

Post is here if someone hasn't seen it yet.....http://cbs2chicago.com/local/police.critical.blog.2.1876152.html

Hiya Masters Masters Master..... How did your NON Law Enforcement Training go???? Where no one saw you??? Have fun!!! The bumpy ride is just beginning.

Whatever your opinions are about this LT.......BACK HIM....... He got the publicity we have wanted for so long!!!! And he spoke the truth. Put your personal feeling aside and back another brother to help the Department as a whole.

Stay Safe.

8/24/2010 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC keep this up with the link for awhile. We must keep this in the news.

8/24/2010 09:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Read Lt. John Andrews blog. Looks like a nice abstract for an interesting book.

---not a cop

8/24/2010 05:17:00 PM

Can we refer to it as a policemanifesto?

8/24/2010 09:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need more bosses to come out and tell the truth or nothing will be done.

8/24/2010 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The superintendent was not happy.

"I think leaders in today's times should look to inspire, motivate and look for solutions to challenges," said Weis. "I don't think leaders should throw rocks at their respective agencies, at those who are actually trying to adress the challenges."


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Lay off the Superintendent. He is a living example of a leader that looks to inspire and motivate and look for solutions to challenges! He got rid of the people who must not have been part of the solution and put the right people in charge. Give him a break!

8/24/2010 09:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My husband was a working Sgt. until he got ill. He then went back to work and was telling me of all the shenaningans going on. I also knew, because I was a dispatcher and I somewhat understood what you guys have gone through. My husband was worried that one day someone was going to get hurt due to the lack of respect by citizens for the police, the lack of respect of the police by the brass and mayor.The only respect you officers and so on receive are from families and citizens that are more than aware of the situation.Plus, the manpower shortage is unbelievable and the numbers are screwed with,especially crime numbers such as rd's. What happened to the even if its the same building and different apts are broken into it's a different rd due to differen victim? Now maybe more people will see that the Daley proproganda is b.s. and there are many willing citizes,family members and officers to stand up. It took one man ,Lt. Andrews to stand up and said what has been said undercovers and behind doors. My husband God rest his soul passed away and always worried about his people ,as now I worry about you and your families , because this department is "A FAMILY" and we should somehow support the issues that are pertinent to you coming home to your families each nite!

8/24/2010 10:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC can we pull some money together and buy a full page in The Sun-Times supporting Lt. Andrews. Signing it Members of CPD. I have a few dollars left from my retro-check..Now is the time to stick together, Lt. Andrews havs open the door.

8/24/2010 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In one of the leading cases in the area, the president of the Baltimore City Police Union was suspended for 12 months for violating Police Department regulations. The basis for the suspension was the officer's public criticism of the Department in a television interview where he said there were problems in the Department's reporting and patrol procedures, that the Department's morale had "hit its lowest ebb" and if the situation continued, "the bottom is going to fall out of the City."

Sound familiar? There is a definite parallel to Lt. Andrews writing/position.

The court found the officer's speech to be protected and reversed the officer's suspension. The court noted that nothing the officer said was shown to be false.

-The Rights of Law Enforcement Officers, 5th Edition

I wonder if any of the command staff ever read this book...

8/24/2010 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. Andrews just gave good interview on Channel 5. He also responded to J-Fled's stupid "throwing rocks" sound bite.

All of us have got to support Lt. Andrews. Enough of this clueless prick J-Fled.

8/24/2010 10:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

/2010 03:45:00 PM

Anonymous said...
Aside from Mike Shields, Lt. John Andrews and John Northen, why don't some high-ranking KMA members come forward about the J-Fled disaster and that there is no morale because of him. No balls at all. Just me, me, me.

8/24/2010 04:21:00 PM
What about the sargent that spoke the truth and stood up for his workers only to get dumped from midway?

8/24/2010 10:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did u see the interview of Neil Steinberg, he hit the nail right on the head!!!!

8/24/2010 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I rather die on my feet than live on my knees! Thanks LT. You are a true boss!



011 blueshirt/3rd watch

8/24/2010 10:22:00 PM  
Blogger Cpdcoppurr said...

Anonymous said...
The newly appointed commander of the 007th District, the one who was awarded a merit sgt pick after 1 day as a cmdr, was recently told to go home by Area 1 Deputy EW. It was late on a recent Friday night and the new commander was drunk as a skunk. Carrying on about "a new fucking sheriff in town", "cleaning up this motherfucker", "locking these motherfuckers up". It was a surreal thing to see.

8/24/2010 11:25:00 AM


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Shades of Fat Bastard in Housing West... Anyone remember the puke all over the car, slamming his squad into the steps or sleeping it off until morning, or the CR that went AWAY after he almost killed his wife after knocking the piss out of her???? Same ole same ole!

8/24/2010 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone out there in IAD care to confirm that J Farce has already ordered the investigation into Carothers closed?
Guess Shortshanks don't want to piss off his brother after that solid he did for him and the city council.

P.S. To the FBI: memos don't mean shit to these people, indictments do!

8/24/2010 10:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
He speaks the truth! Was at 35th meetings everywhere, talking about Andrews! He has balls,but we are short and yet the deputy insists that come oct 15th they ARE putting 80+ coppers divided at both airports! 50% bid 50% management, the media needs to look into this bullshit we are so short on the steets and the blood is flowing everyday, batteries on officers is through the roof. How many murders,batteries,10-1's etc at the airports? WTF! The deputy says homeland security is paying for it, well jagoffs at the top why not use that dough to pay for more street coppers! Just another place to put the clouted boys and girls right j-fled? Masters X9!

8/24/2010 10:58:00 AM

That is confirmed bids coming out next period guess the mayor and fled say "fuck the streets" as they continue to let the blood flow! this all masters idea along with airport boss rosie andolino media are you listening? calling?

8/24/2010 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just got done watching channel 7 "news" at ten. At the end every night the camera pans outside to people on the sidewalk. Just saw a shitbird in white t-shirt and jeans push his way to front of the glass and started dancing and throwing the pitch forks down. The animal is everywhere!!!!

8/24/2010 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More media coverage on the Andrews manifesto. WMAQ-TV. Note how J-Fled avoids responding to specific truthful charges. All smoke and mirrors bullshit.

Why do I think of Hitler in his Berlin bunker?

8/24/2010 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Sun-Times pulled a fast one today. With Lt. Andrews' public revelations deserving the front burner, reporter Frank Main wrote an old news story on Bill Cozzi's unsuccessful appeal to the 7th Circuit which was entered on July 30--25 days ago.

There using old news on poor Bill Cozzi to deflect attention from the Andrews case.

8/24/2010 11:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't know Lt JA but I agreed with his article the first time I read it, before the media blitz. I'm sure there are plenty of upper-level mgmt that agrees with him but for self-preservation will never admit to it. You cant really blame us- who's going to pay our mortgages when the "hammer" falls on us (again)? As far as I see, the sooner we get to the end of this administration, the better we'll all be!

8/24/2010 11:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As Leaders, shouldn't we be aware of the problems as well as what works?"

Simple. He's not a leader. He's just the guy in charge (after Masters).

We're sorely short of leaders, but we've still got plenty of supervisors.

8/24/2010 11:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It sounds like J-Fed and Lt. Andrews need to have a "Beer Summit." What kinda whimpy beer does J-Fed Drink??? I bet it gives him the RUNS!!!

8/24/2010 11:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'As far as leadership goes in our district and on our watch; the constant borrowing of LT's to fill WC spots has left us "leaderless".'

That's not what's left you "leaderless." Tricky Dick Daley, via J-Fled and the Puppet Master(s) have drained the department of leaders.

"Leader" and "Supervisor" (or "Boss", etc.) are NOT interchangeable terms.

8/24/2010 11:42:00 PM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

Patrolman Donald E. Andrews
EOW: January 1, 1975


Patrolmen Donald E. Andrews and Daniel E. Howard were killed in a traffic accident responding to an emergency call when another squad car collided with theirs at 43rd and Michigan.

Officer Andrews, driver of the squad, and Officer Howard were rushing to the 47th Street Station of the Dan Ryan rapid transit line to intercept two passengers carrying a shotgun. Both squad cars had their sirens blaring, and their red lights flashing as they approached the intersection. Patrolmen Andrews and Howard were westbound on 43rd Street and entered the intersection against the red light. The second squad car entered the "blind" intersection from southbound Michigan Avenue. The impact of the collision drove both squad cars onto a sidewalk. Patrolmen Andrews' and Howard's vehicle rolled end over end for 40 feet, killing both officers. The officers in the second squad car were treated and released for their injuries.

Patrolman Andrews was assigned to the Prairie Avenue District.

8/24/2010 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's see, his last job as a sgt was working the watch in 005. Before that he was in Area 2 det's, before that Area 4 det's and before thar Auto Theft det's. So exactly when did he spend years as a CAPS sgt in 008?

8/24/2010 09:21:00 PM

He was the CAPS sgt. in 008 for Harley schinker in the 90's. If Harley stopped short Andrews would have got stuck in his asscrack. That being said he seems to have goven up on advancement but not self-promotion.

8/24/2010 11:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The mayor brought him in because of his terrorism experience and his time spent on some violent crime task force."

The mayor brought him in as a "Yes Man," to be worked by the Puppet Master(s).

Weis had "no skin in the game" (to use his phrase) because he came from the outside and was beholden to no one at CPD. Rather than sit back and see how things run, he immediately began replacing bosses.

He then proceeded to run out the "old guard," many of whom really knew what was going on here, how to run the department and how to keep Daley placated while attenuating Daley's interference. Daley always had a hand in running CPD, but never like he does now, particularly with his conduit Masters.

I suppose that terrorsim experince and VCTF-stuff was nice, but don't think that Weis (or anyone else for that matter) was brought here for their experience.

Ultimately Weis will be the patsy and get blamed for this mess. Daley will install some other political hack and look like a hero. The man's a born politician and knows how to dress up a steaming pile. But it will still be a steaming pile.

It will take years for CPD to recover from this mess, if recovery is even possible.

8/24/2010 11:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About F*&*&'ing time someone spoke up who has the KMA time in. Thank you boss.

What about the several hundred retirees that just left the Department? Might some of you, on behalf of those you left behind and a Department you probably cherished at some point in your career, unlock the secrets you keep?

8/25/2010 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This story is too synonymous to the story of a foolhardy Sgt who wrote the truth about a 30 Pending beef with no merit a few years ago.

KM where are you???

8/25/2010 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" come oct 15th they ARE putting 80+ coppers divided at both airports! 50% bid 50% management, the media needs to look into this bullshit we are so short on the steets"

THE SMART OFFICER TYPES UP HIS PAR FORM FOR THE AIRPORT ASAP!!

8/25/2010 01:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My husband was a working Sgt. until he got ill. He then went back to work and was telling me of all the shenaningans going on.

---

I hope all is well with you and your family. If you ever need anything, 017 is here for you...just give us a call.

8/25/2010 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:38pm - the animal you wrote is the tip of the iceberg.

The predators are claiming a connection between Channel 7 and them as criminal co-horts.

There are pictures backing this up.

8/25/2010 03:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What kinda whimpy beer does J-Fed Drink???

Zima

8/25/2010 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need more bosses to come out and tell the truth or nothing will be done.

8/24/2010 09:53:00 PM


Bobby Lopez, now is your chance to really prove yourself. Otherwise everything that you've been fighting for was in vain. Step up, you have nothing to loose. They're scared of you in the Hall and the troops really respect you. You speaking up will reaffirm Lt. Andrews words and will be Jfeds nail in the coffin.

8/25/2010 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Open letter to John Northern.

I hope your serious when you say you are passing "your baton" to John Andrews and that you willing go into the night never to be heard from again. The battle that John Andrews is fighting is very different than the grudge match that you have engaged in. John has been a Lt. for a number of years now. You never got past the rank of Sgt. and you've been carrying a grudge ever since and have jumped on every minor failing that you could to point out how the Dept has gone astray since you were denied.

Well, I got news for you - you are not missed and this Dept would have gone to hell even if you had been promoted. Its been in a slow descent for a number of years now with each Supt. being worse than the last. I date the decline as beginning with the Union although I supported it then and I do now. However, it seems that bargaining has always resulted in less authority for management and has deprived watch commanders of the ability to run their own watches thereby diminishing their abiity to control what goes on on their watches.

Andrews doesn't have an agenda built on getting his, nor does he have a personal grudge against the Dept. He has, however, become its conscience.

8/25/2010 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media should look into how the Police Department kills crime. A lot of incidents aren't being classified properly. For example...Most car fires are classified as Non-Criminal DTPP by Fire and not ARSON because the Department doesn't send out an ARSON Det. to conduct a cause and origin of the fire after it has occurred. The main reason is because there is no evidence or witnesses on scene. Then when it becomes a handout it stays as Non-Criminal because the car was moved to a pound and the scene has been compromised. That is why Arsons are down!!

8/25/2010 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard that Mrs. Starks is the listed plaintiff of the Sgts Association lawsuit.
8/24/2010 12:55:00 PM

sorry- don't see how that connects the dots to Andrews. ?

8/25/2010 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

/2010 03:45:00 PM

Anonymous said...
Aside from Mike Shields, Lt. John Andrews and John Northen, why don't some high-ranking KMA members come forward about the J-Fled disaster and that there is no morale because of him. No balls at all. Just me, me, me.

8/24/2010 04:21:00 PM
What about the sargent that spoke the truth and stood up for his workers only to get dumped from midway?

8/24/2010 10:19:00 PM
Is that the same sgt who had top seniority and bid back to midway @x but was still not allowed back? sgt V?

8/25/2010 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2010 08:23:00 AM

Anonymous said...
We need more bosses to come out and tell the truth or nothing will be done.

8/24/2010 09:53:00 PM


Bobby Lopez, now is your chance to really prove yourself. Otherwise everything that you've been fighting for was in vain. Step up, you have nothing to loose. They're scared of you in the Hall and the troops really respect you. You speaking up will reaffirm Lt. Andrews words and will be Jfeds nail in the coffin.

8/25/2010 09:08:00 AM

Why should Bobbie L speak up? He is a commander of a specialized unit? He was bought and paid for. Nothing here son, move along.

8/25/2010 05:15:00 PM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

"You (John Northen) never got past the rank of Sgt. and you've been carrying a grudge ever since..." - 9:10 AM

You fuckin' "anonymous" moron. You assume that the lieutenants' "exam" was legit. It was rigged, you damn fool. Psychometricians calculated that there is less than one chance in 13,800,000,000,000 (13.8 TRILLION) that the spontaneous after-the-fact eighty (80) percent weighted "oral interview" was legit. ("Notify the watch commander", etc.) I consider it a "badge of honor" that the City "flunked" me. I invariably do very, very well taking tests and you can't fault my prolific career activity, always working the streets.

Had Chicago only used the 2 legit components (essay and multiple choice), I (and many others) would have been promoted to lieutenant immediately.

Throughout my entire career, I have sought to bring about meaningful reforms to professionalize the now totally corrupt management of the CPD.

If you care to pursue your balderdash further, E-mail me at cpdfop7@yahoo.com

I won't hold my breath, "anonymous". Thanks for sharing your insipid drivel, asshole.

I have the utmost admiration and respect for Lt. John Andrews and his courageous stand. Gotta listen to John on Roe Conn (WLS-AM 890) now.

GOTTA RUN!

P.S.: Great letter on behalf of Lt. Andrews, Jim Maurer. I circulated it all over the Internet with original to J-FLED.

8/25/2010 05:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8/25/2010 09:10:00 AM

and what are you doing to help kill the beast?

8/25/2010 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:10 am

You must be really sucking up the Kool-Aid. John Northen would score up off the chart on any legit test they give him. The job is legit, right.

8/25/2010 07:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What kinda whimpy beer does J-Fed Drink???

Zima

8/25/2010 08:23:00 AM

I thought us POLICE were not allowed to drink "on or off" duty. OH that's right J-Fled is not the police so I guess that rule doesn't apply.

8/25/2010 09:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speak for yourself, 9:10. I enjoy posts by Northside. He and Box Chevy Phantom are my favorites.

8/25/2010 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He was the CAPS sgt. in 008 for Harley schinker in the 90's. If Harley stopped short Andrews would have got stuck in his asscrack. That being said he seems to have goven up on advancement but not self-promotion.

.............................

You my friend are one sorry ass and one of the main reasons we are stuck with what we have. You keep on bringing up something 20 years ago??? I applaud John for all he is doing, his actions are of a positive nature and hopefully will awaken this City If you don't like John that's fine lets concentrate on the subject. You must be retired and a very bitter person that you just harp and harp and how 20 years ago this happened. You need to get a life and like the old story goes if you can't say nothing nice then just shut the F---- up.
John keep up the good work and lets help free our handcuffed Officers they are the ones suffering not this bitter crybaby.
Old Timer

8/25/2010 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bobby Lopez, now is your chance to really prove yourself. Otherwise everything that you've been fighting for was in vain. Step up, you have nothing to loose. They're scared of you in the Hall and the troops really respect you. You speaking up will reaffirm Lt. Andrews words and will be Jfeds nail in the coffin.

8/25/2010 09:08:00 AM

Why should Bobbie L speak up? He is a commander of a specialized unit? He was bought and paid for. Nothing here son, move along.

--Exactly ! He is all about himself. I remember getting spanked about an incident that they were way off about. He said nothing on my behalf in front of the bosses when he knew what they were doing was wrong. But when it was over we spoke "off the record". No Balls! I lost all respect for him.

8/26/2010 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrews doesn't have an agenda built on getting his, nor does he have a personal grudge against the Dept. He has, however, become its conscience.

Think you may be wrong there. Definitely an agenda on getting his and a grudge because he hasn't. Right about Northen and the decline of the dept.though.

8/26/2010 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:10 PM

"Right about Northen and the decline of the dept. though." -12:10 PM

Kindly be specific and explain your statement "Right about Northen..." in your last sentence.

8/26/2010 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kindly be specific and explain your statement "Right about Northen..." in your last sentence

That the dept would have declined even if Northen had been promoted. With everything he has done in support of the working police,the amount of corruption that is in place in this city would have never allowed him to make a difference. Altough many people, myself included feel Andrews has a self-promoting agenda he has been able to garner far more attention than Northen ever did. Hopefully this will not die. The timing of this is great.With an election in our near future and the upcomimg Lt promotions perhaps their finally the people of this city will learn what the CPD members having been living with and there will be some changes made towards saving this department before there is no hope at all.

8/26/2010 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have an interesting question: What job can J-Fled hope to abtain after he completes his contract C.P.D. Remember this J-"Fled-THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING"

8/28/2010 10:40:00 PM  

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