NW Side Aldercreatures Not Happy
Police Superintendent Jody Weis' proposal to redeploy officers from safer neighborhoods to high-crime areas drew outrage from a Northwest Side alderman, "concern" from a police sergeant running for the 41st Ward City Council seat, and a wait-and-see attitude from the district commander.
"At this point I really don't know what to say," said Jefferson Park (16th) District Police Cmdr. David McNaughton, two days after Weis floated the idea during City Council budget hearings "We haven't been given any information yet that would lead us to believe we'd be one of the districts they'd be drawing from."
That's even though the 16th is the largest district in the city, with one of the lowest crime rates.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
60 Comments:
get rid of these ALDERJAGS, blood suckers
"At this point I really don't know what to say," said Jefferson Park (16th) District Police Cmdr. David McNaughton,
but I'm going to shut my mouth for another 6 months. Right now my ass is on the line if I speak out against j-fled.
Criminals tend to commit crimes near where they live. Generally they aren't the most ambitious folks around and are too damn lazy to travel.
That being said if crime did go up in the "quiet" districts after realignment then Weis's successor would just have to realign again.
Better yet eliminate the BS do nothing back office jobs and put those officers on the street.
Better yet end the drug war and then incarcerate the seriously criminal. I know in Cook County few drug users are going to end up as guests of the state, at least for drug use, but downstate it's another story. They actually prosecute for crimes we generally ignore here. Burglarize a farm outside Podunkville and first offense or not you're likely going to spend a year or more in prison.
Shit, in Cook County you almost have to beg to actually be sent to prison for anything outside a violent felony and maybe even that.
Slander,Defamation of Character,Emotional / Psychological Duress, loss of their positions on the tact. team,Loss of wages(over time / par-time),Violation of their Civil and Constitutional Rights(with the "unofficial perp walk"),not to mention the Contract Violations
I say start at $500,000.00 !
Aim high guys ,and enjoy your early retirement !!
"oh Jody Weis....,you madcap! "
how do you redeploy officers you already don't have--- commanders are forced to shuffle officers between watches for certain police periods just to cover furlos--- citizens are not getting the service they deserve because there are no bodies to put in the cars--- a huge shit storm is brewing for 2011--- wait until the spring when the weather breaks again and we are short another 300-500, you better start planning now and putting in slips now for next year....
Wait til they get a load of what they are going to do the tac teams.....
At this point I really don't know what to say," said Jefferson Park (16th) District Police Cmdr. David McNaughton..
Thats because you lack the balls to say anything, right Dave?
I live in 016 and rarely ever see a 016 police officer ~ WHAT THE FUCK DO I PAY TAXES FOR?! So the ghetto neighborhoods get police service instead of me & my family?!
People who pay lots of taxes and struggle to maintain their homes and do the right thing i.e. pay their bills on time, get little to no city services and especially Police service [i.e. low manpower and no coverage]!
People who pay no taxes, sponge of the system and scamming link, unemployment and welfare benefits! In addition to committing crimes and are just plain stupid and are no benefit to society! Get all the attention and city services that can be thrown at them!
No wonder tax paying, working people want to leave this rat city! Something is definitely wrong with this!
DA PELON
Maybe those who live in 016 should start calling the police for everything like the ghetto folks do. Disrespect is a crime in the ghetto. So is baby's momma/daddy nonsense.
It's nice to see more higher ranking police speak of the mismanagement of the police and give their names.
At this point I really don't know what to say," said Jefferson Park (16th) District Police Cmdr. David McNaughton
That kiss ass only says and does what they tell him to say and do. Wipe that brown off your nose already.
"WHAT THE FUCK DO I PAY TAXES FOR?! So the ghetto neighborhoods get police service instead of me & my family?!
Uh, yes.
CPD should pick furlos by watch and it wouldn't be a problem
it would allow officers on 1st nd 3rd watch to get a better furlo pick
Go right ahead and load up the "High Crime Areas". Get ready for the screams of Racism, Nazi's, Harrassment, and Racial Profiling from the thugs and Lakefront Commies. Get ready for the media jackals running harrassment "Brothers don't have a chance" stories.
Then watch J-fled throw the police under the federal bus.
if i hear "i would have called 911 but i didn't want to sound/look like a racist" i'm going to explode.
Once again, those who pay the Least in Taxes get the most, from the Communist City of Chicago..
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Maybe those who live in 016 should start calling the police for everything like the ghetto folks do. Disrespect is a crime in the ghetto. So is baby's momma/daddy nonsense.
10/27/2010 08:40:00 AM
I agree, people in 016 should call in suspicious auto, suspicious person, suspicious auto with no occupants, burglary in progress, fight in progress, shots fired, etc...
The problem is people in 016 don't call enough. If anything goes wrong, then call 911.
Taxpayers do not realize that these districts have been stripped of manpower for a long time now. It is quite common for 16 or 17 to be no cars available for extended periods of time.
Aldermen like Levar and Doroghty have just sat back and let the police be sent to other areas without concern for their own taxpaying residents.
1621 where are you? Oh, the south end. Wouldn't it be nice if there was such a thing as beat integrity. Why do ODPO's have to defend the high rent district?
I am a recently retired officer. I live in 016 District. I hardly see a squad car drive down my street now. If they move officers out I might not see another police car drive down my street ever. The beats are already so dam big they are like cities in themselves.
A really smart move Jag Fed.
"Maybe those who live in 016 should start calling the police for everything like the ghetto folks do. Disrespect is a crime in the ghetto. So is baby's momma/daddy nonsense."
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Good answer, but lets be more specific. They need to QUIT calling the 16th district police station for every little freaking thing like the CRAPS office has told them to do for so many years and start calling 911 like the ghetto rats do SO THE CALLS GET COUNTED!!! Wake up people!!! 911 is the spot where they count the number of incoming calls. Every time you DON'T call 911, your call is not counted and therefore when the statistics come out it looks like there is no reason for the police to be needed in your area. Get it???
You think you're pissed off now.. wait til' you see you real estate tax bills.
Masters, Masters, Masters
Punitive, Punitive, Punitive
They rhyme, almost
Commander McShakie of the 16th District is a total company man. No backbone house mouse did you really think he would speak out about this?
Don't see the Poleece in 016? Surely you gest. Or you need an optician. I routinely see an old 015th District ranger PP up and down my street, same for Fabian, 1305, and the mission car. God bless 'em all. Stop in for cookies and Leinenkugel's when you guys take a personal!
Let the criminals go to Olcott and Touhy! J-Fled will be forced to meritoriously promote me to something or other after my successful shooting! Count on it!
Anonymous said...
Maybe those who live in 016 should start calling the police for everything like the ghetto folks do. Disrespect is a crime in the ghetto. So is baby's momma/daddy nonsense.
10/27/2010 08:40:00 AM
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I do call the police for everything, and so should everyone else that live in 016. They brag about doing nothing. Give them something to do. At least stop a car every once in a while.
The last thing I want are the tax paying residents calling 911. You can afford to replace the stolen lawn mower or flat screen.
The boss wants to get the honorable clergy of the down trodden to back him for another three year contract, so the police go to their constituents districts.
I worked with McNaughton when he was in the 14th dist- This guy NEVER had a bad Job. Clout Juice ruled he will not stand up to anyone. How many McNaughton's are on the job?
unemployment and welfare benefits!
Really? unemployment benefits My wife worked for 30 years for the same company, Then they decided to outsource to Communist China for more Profit and tax breaks. Your telling me she doesn't deserve unemployment benefits? Do we deserve our pension.
Maybe if they put the caps officers in 23 back on the street, they could help with the manpower shortage. The dumped, do nothings got special cars and ghost foot units. From one useless spot to another. They don't answer calls and leave whenever they want. What was the point of dumping them?
Just a question, and not a sign of support for the mayor or your Sup:
Doesn't it make sense to overload the districts that have the highest crime with officers, even if it means taking bodies from nicer neighborhoods? Isn't it more about making sure the officers in the really violent areas have the (or as close to) right amount of support when dealing with these thugs?
Sure, when you burn the nest the rats (or whatever vermin) spread out - but you still burnt the nest and got a bunch of them.
Moot point, because from what I read here no amount of redployment will ever make up for the lack of vision your "leadership" is exercising.
The two plaintiff officers will probably be offered a merit promotion to detective or sergeant. The city knows it has a losing case here. By promoting them, there is no cost to the city.
CPD should pick furlos by watch and it wouldn't be a problem
it would allow officers on 1st nd 3rd watch to get a better furlo pick
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Get some time on the job asshat.
Every time you DON'T call 911, your call is not counted and therefore when the statistics come out it looks like there is no reason for the police to be needed in your area. Get it???
--Wrong! They count event #'s thru 311 AND 911. Calls that are dispatched via pcad at the desk are assigned event #'s
McNaughton, you just proved you are a ball - less liar. Jefferson park is the first place they pull coppers from. 016 & 017 pay the most taxes and get the least police service. Are there any white shirts out there who are willing to stand up for their own property & family safety over your spot. And to all the blue shirts : NO MORE ACTIVITY!! Your spots are all going to disappear and you will be in uniform in the getto and no one will be available when your family needs the police.
Section 8 has been deeply rooted in many neighborhoods in the 016th district. Besides all the baby mamma drama coming from these abodes are the men that they bed with including the guns, drugs and criminal gang behavior. Not only are these thugs thrusted upon our formerly pristeen streets, we STILL pay higher property taxes and now even less police than the low numbers of police that we already have. The beats in 016 are huge and if an officer is tied up on another job, service is even slower. Another blow to the white middle-class taxpayer. Every alderman in 016 should be all over this.
People who behave and obey the laws get the least amount of service.
how was SCC favorite reporter ON SCENE at the time of the arrest ??
http://www.suntimes.com/news/2826418,man-arrested-murder-nikki-reed-102210.article
Since J-Fed can't even investigate a brutality beef, why would the City Council trust him to totaly change the manpower structure within the department? I say dump his ass now and let Jim Jackson run the show until we get a new Mayor.
Ill tell u what 41st ward candidates, police or not ,u better address the media about this. You should not vote for someone just because they r the police. Get on the news before election day, or my vote will go somewhere else.It wont happend ,they want a vote .I havent recieved one flyer ,or heard anything about any of these coppers running. Tired of the sane BS ,from these candidates
Time 4 a protest in front of 016. Demand the commander talks. Run an ad in the neighborhood papers. They would probably do the ad for free. You know the Alderman candidates throughout 016 will have all their door knockers there. Have all the school ptas and local school councils will send out emails . This is the time to do it. Day before election ,whos in.Too late for the ad ,but some phone calls to the media ,would help.
Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart said today he will not run for Chicago mayor.
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/
2010/10/sheriff-tom-dart-wont-run-for-chicago-mayor.html
CPD should pick furlos by watch and it wouldn't be a problem
it would allow officers on 1st nd 3rd watch to get a better furlo pick
10/27/2010 09:52:00 AM
Hey Jag Bag, that idea already tried and failed, years ago! You must having been living under a rock you fuck or have no time on the job!
Get some time and Seniority on this job before you stick your foot in your mouth, stoopid!
Seniority is the best thing on this job! Get in line and shut the fuck up!
Da Pelon
With all the 016 bashing here, I would like to personally thank 1624R for the arrest of the 3 slanty eyed Russians jiggling car doors and taking stuff from around Austin/Irving a couple nights ago. Too close for comfort for me.
And whoever locked up the bike stealing kids, too about a month or so ago.
Thanks again !
A Portage Park ODPO
What gets me is that 016 has lost a beat car the past few year..
There's no more 1622N or 1622S. Now its just 1622...
The MSF is in 20 and 19th dists.
Why?
19 is yuppies and bars. Patrons need rides home?
I thought they fight violence in high crime areas
Fuck the alderfools...
They're wholly resposible for this city being in a financial hole and complicit in the intentional massive underfunding of our pension in addition to the other examples of directed malfeasance.
They're not going to be hurt at all are they? Nobody is trying to fuck their pension over. They've left no blood, sweat and tears on these streets for 20 to 40 plus years yet they sit around and dream up ways to pick a Policeman's pockets trying to take away whet he's earned.
We would almost think they're begging for open rebellion.
Craziest shit in the world to tell armed people that gave up one third to half of their lives that their sacrifice of time means nothing.
$.02
Re: Aldermanic Candidates
Most likely, the non-incumbent aldermanic candidates are gathering their signatures, staff, etc. This might explain why "we" aren't hearing them and/or seeing their flyers.
"At this point I really don't know what to say," said Jefferson Park (16th) District Police Cmdr. David McNaughton."
Why make a comment about this at all, Dave? Everyone knows that Bea Cuello is your clout, and you're not going to jeopardize your cmd spot, because Bea wouldn't be able to save you if you spoke out of turn and brought heat on the Supt. and this GREAT PLAN.
So just STFU and sit there until J-Fled moves on, and hope to God the next Supt. decides you're of some worth to the CPD.
All you guys bashing McNaughton must never have had a bad boss. He is a decent guy. You want a fight? Fight the real bad guys.
CPD should pick furlos by watch and it wouldn't be a problem
it would allow officers on 1st nd 3rd watch to get a better furlo pick
They did that a number of years ago. They stopped it because they found out that it actually depleted the manpower on the watches more than if we had picked as a district.
Don't worry kid. Put more time in and you will get the better furlo you want.
Get rid of mikey in 017 Dist Cops hate hime and he is a do nothing jag bag to the working copper
Anonymous said...
CPD should pick furlos by watch and it wouldn't be a problem
it would allow officers on 1st nd 3rd watch to get a better furlo pick
10/28/2010 10:39:00 AM
To say nothing about the watches would be balanced and no one would have to be snatched from their watch for furlough relief. And uniformity, the rest of the police department, those who do not wear blue shirts, pick by watch.
We had a pilot program and around 2004-05 it was voted down by unit reps. It is still a good idea and should have been implemented, unlikely now however.
Why didn't that special unit predict where the home invasion in 016 was going to happen? Isn't that what its supposed to do.
I hope they do not take our POs from us. I live in Portage Park and really appreciate the ones we have in the Central and Irving area hard working guys.Talked to a few of then at Scoops one time on Montrose and Central. We appreciate them more than the gangbangers out west
-not a cop just a tax paying citizen
CPD should pick furlos by watch and it wouldn't be a problem
it would allow officers on 1st nd 3rd watch to get a better furlo pick
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You have less than six years on. When you get past six years, you will get any furlough you want except xmas and July 4.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why didn't that special unit predict where the home invasion in 016 was going to happen? Isn't that what its supposed to do.
10/28/2010 05:18:00 PM
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Maybe because it happened in 017???
dave mcnaughton is good people but I was a little suprised to see he was given a command--- he was just a sgt not to long ago---- shooting star-----
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