"Street Talk" Suggestions
What if those "chosen" or "volunteered" just show up and say nothing? Let Ernie give his speech, then sit there and don't give him or his minions a word.
Or maybe have a whole bunch of KMA old timers tell Ernie exactly what the problem is. Manpower, Manpower and more Manpower. Honest to pete, what a waste of time this is.
Or maybe have a whole bunch of KMA old timers tell Ernie exactly what the problem is. Manpower, Manpower and more Manpower. Honest to pete, what a waste of time this is.
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
58 Comments:
I have a damn blue shirt...
...you want my suggestions, let's trade shirts and pay grade
I'll do it myself
How stupid are these people? Truly?
Come on already but it takes no rocket scientist here.
We have over a million Chicagoans and (+)(-) 10,000 Chicago Police officers.
PLEASE DO THE FUCKING MATH!!!!!!
Anyone that thinks these clowns at 35th will listen to suggestions of lowley P.O's and Sgt.'s should be working shoveling shit out of a coo coo clock. If the brass can't figure out by now why this dept. SUCKS then they should be doing the same thing. It's easy, WE NEED MANPOWER!!! Stop taking coppers away from the districts to make more BS units! The whole meeting is BS too. Any time you have hand picked coppers and their names you got nothing. No one trusts 35th St. so the meeting is worthless. Along with poor morale I guess they can't figure why no one trusts them either. That's kinda important.
Incompetent Supervisors should be @ The Top the List
Remember --
Ground rules for disrupting the consensus process (Delphi Technique) — when facilitators want to steer a group in a specific direction.
1) Always Be Charming. Smile, be pleasant, be courteous, moderate your voice so as not to come across as belligerent or aggressive.
2) Stay Focused. If at all possible, write your question down to help you stay focused. Facilitators, when asked questions they don't want to answer, often digress from the issue raised and try to work the conversation around to where they can make the individual asking the question look foolish, feel foolish, appear belligerent or aggressive. The goal is to put the one asking the question on the defensive. Do not fall for this tactic. Always be charming, thus deflecting any insinuation, innuendo, etc, that may be thrown at you in their attempt to put you on the defensive, but bring them back to the question you asked. If they rephrase your question into an accusatory statement (a favorite tactic) simply state, "that is not what I stated, what I asked was… (repeat your question)." Stay focused on your question.
3) Be Persistent.If putting you on the defensive doesn't work, facilitators often resort to long drawn out dissertations on some off-the-wall and usually unrelated, or vaguely related, subject that drags on for several minutes – during which time the crowd or group usually loses focus on the question asked (which is the intent). Let them finish with their dissertation/expose, then nicely, with focus and persistence, state, "but you didn't answer my question. My question was… (repeat your question)."
Remember…
always be charming,
stay focused, and
be persistent.
Never, under any circumstance, become angry. Anger directed at the facilitator will immediately make the facilitator "the victim." This defeats the purpose which is to make you the victim. The goal of the facilitator is to make those they are facilitating like them, alienating anyone who might pose a threat to the realization of their agenda. [People with fixed belief systems, who know what they believe and stand on what they believe, are obvious threats.]
Great stuff! You're not even supposed to know the "Delphi Technique" exists -- let alone how to counter it.
http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation
_process/acf002.htm
He did this shit when he was at ocd mostly with vice. He ended every meeting with needing more "diversity within the unit". Guess who got launched and guess who came in.
If you have a good idea, he will disagree with it only to insult you in the presence of others, but implement it as his idea later on.
Do not speak. Do not look him in the eye. He will infer anything you say or do as an insult to his super-human intelligence. Then you will spontaneously combust.
Send all babes in costume. It will be much more fun for him. And us.
Funny how people have to be hand picked and forced to attend. No one ever went to J-fled's silly meetings so this is the only way. DUMB!!! Who really believes this will make a difference?
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya;
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya;
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya;
Oh, Lord, kumbaya.
Someone's cryin', Lord, kumbaya;
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Someone's cryin', Lord, kumbaya;
Oh, Lord, kumbaya.
Someone's singin', Lord, kumbaya;
Someone's singin', Lord, kumbaya;
Someone's singin', Lord, kumbaya;
Oh, Lord, kumbaya.
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya;
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Oh, Lord, kumbaya.
Kumbaya.
Recent change to the street talk plan: everyone must speak in EBonics.
we suggest that the possum headed coward tender his resignation papers and proceed to buy a ticket on a slow boat to china---
I'm going to say exactly what I think; In December that is. I can't wait to meet Santa. I hope I can talk about how glad I am that all these outsiders are gone.
O.T.
Two major crimes in 16th district. A aggravated battery outside of Taft High School and a home invasion in sauganash. And they want to pull officers from low crime districts? 16 district is the size of a suburb and response time is horribly slow due to the size of beats. Soon response time will be worse. Time to defend the family. Carry off duty and train family members to defend the house. I wish 16th district had a alderman with balls to speak up.
I wonder if Gen. Patton ever asked for suggestions?
"...assigned to street duties..." so all the inside people that on paper are working XX06P will be chosen to go stroke the bosses.
Does anyone not know that your personel file will be reviewed prior to the talk?
So just cut to the chase and tell him what he wants to hear, everything is fine boss.
Pick me, pick me! I will sit in the corner and make chirping noises so there's not dead silence.
And SCC, thanks for silencing the 'Westside, Inside Do-Nothing' moron.
Bet there will be one meeting and then 'poof'! No more. Sheesh, these guys just never learn. They just keep resurrecting the same old tired ideas. Yawn.
The Command Staff of this Department want the same "product" (or results) of policing from 15 years ago. . . all the while ignoring the nonsense that has been imposed upon us in the last 5 or so years. Hypocrites! Toe the line, boys and girls. . . let them reap what they've sown!
I would ask if I could be the Supt driver apparently that is the one thing that guarantees promotion to Sgt.
P.S. JFled you are a joke in Japan you would be forced to do the honorable thing to bad your low hanging man boobs would stop the sword.
If I lie on my resume and get caught. Will I get promoted to exempt rank. Just asking please get back to me. How about if the lie is that you are doing a swell job.
5 minutes into the Q&A I'm gonna put a handful of alka-seltzer tablets in my mouth and start speaking in tongues. Then I'm gonna drop a moist brownie down a pant leg and scoot it toward the stage with my nose. Only three months till retirement -- let the show begin!
Well I tried to do the right thing for myself, I interviewed with MSF thinking I could get in on my merits, well guess what, I will be staying in my district, cause I didn't make it, seems lkike they are bringing back Sgts. that were in Special operations, these are the same Sgts. that got dumped out of that unit . How in the world can they do this and want folks to think its legit. And i'm told that these return Sgts. have a whole lot of baggage. Hey I'm just sayin
Who at HQ is assigned to pull the fire alarm when the input becomes to hot for DTEB? Such as, what happened to the Arizona job Ern'.
Make a detectives class. It's only been three years since the last.
Does Seiser still run it?
I'm thinking of volunteering to attend this circle-jerk! I'm not quite KMA but have 25 yrs on, spent my career on the street in a district and I'm a bid to days. There's not much that this clown can do to my career at this point.
Besides, I'm sure they'd really value my opinion!
What's up with the 003 Tact situation???
I've got days to burn before the end of the year. I'm not RDO. Looks like this is going to be one of them, since I've been "selected."
AS far as incompetent bosses go what about some of the INCOMPETENT Blue shirts that we have on this job what do you do with them. Quit blaming the bosses for evething that is wrong with this job, Why dont some of you blue shirts take a long look at yourself maybe the problem is with YOU.
Anonymous said...
I wonder if Gen. Patton ever asked for suggestions?
10/28/2010 06:17:00 AM
I love the comparison. A true leader would rally the troops and provide direction. Brown and Weiss are lost and seek help from street officers? Street officers should be receiving guidance from them. If Patton was alive he would slap both with his gloves. Cowards belong on the front line. Patton had no patience with cowards. Gotta run.
Every person sent should bring a slip for out of grade pay for ADS.
O.T.
"Two major crimes in 16th district. A aggravated battery outside of Taft High School..."
--10/28/2010 06:15:00 AM
A few years back, they used a machete. What now?
Just because that school has washrooms doesn't mean that a lot of the students use them before the ride home. Why bother? Anyone's backyard -- or front lawn -- in the area is an acceptable substitute. #1 or #2, they've learned 'em both.
Counts towards a diploma, I guess. Good thing we've "leveled the playing field."
They just announced a new police test will be given on WGN news.The test will take place in McCormick place. Lets all see how many applicants.
I volunteered to go from my watch. I am going to bring a handful of stink bombs vials and drop them on the floor and watch the bosses step on them. My first question will be. " Hey Ernie, do you smell that shit"?
30 pending is not fun AT ALL!!! Even if and when you get it back you will be changed forever. Do not listen to the kool aid drinking fools.
AS far as incompetent bosses go what about some of the INCOMPETENT Blue shirts that we have on this job what do you do with them. Quit blaming the bosses for evething that is wrong with this job, Why dont some of you blue shirts take a long look at yourself maybe the problem is with YOU.
Lighten up Francis.
The BLUE SHIRTS don't make the rules, you do. But hey, don't beat yourself up. Just because you made it this far on meritorious after meritorious promotion doesn't mean you are not a good leader. You just don't test well.
T.
Two major crimes in 16th district. A aggravated battery outside of Taft High School and a home invasion in sauganash. And they want to pull officers from low crime districts? 16 district is the size of a suburb and response time is horribly slow due to the size of beats. Soon response time will be worse. Time to defend the family. Carry off duty and train family members to defend the house. I wish 16th district had a alderman with balls to speak up.
10/28/2010 06:15:00 AM
sauganash is in 017
Tell Ernie that the cops (and firemen and so on) who live in our neighborhood are taking this NOT to Jody or Ernie but to our Aldermen.
We are telling our elected officials that Jody & Company and Ernie have ruined the department and as voters, residents and citizens we want them out and police back in our neighborhoods. We are putting pressure on Aldermen to put the pressure on them to give us the protection we pay for.
AND...
"Anonymous said...
I wonder if Gen. Patton ever asked for suggestions?
10/28/2010 06:17:00 AM"
As a matter of fact he was known for personally talking to his intelligence officers rather than relying on written reports. That's partly because he was dyslexic, but he believed that, "Intelligence is like eggs, the fresher the better."
Ernie is going to promise the following to the Patrol Division:
More covert cars
Access to the 1505 funds
"Long Term" Investigations from Beat Cops
Night Vision Glasses
More Tact Officers in the Dist
And he aint gonna make good on shit unless you're one of his harem.
I wonder if Gen. Patton ever asked for suggestions?
10/28/2010 06:17:00 AM
Patton had balls, brains and knew how to lead.
Thanks to chose me boss for the great laugh. If i saw that i wouldn't be able to get off the floor.
Does Seiser still run it?
10/28/2010 10:41:00 AM
Of course.
So Sgt you went down for an interview with the MSF and actually thought you were going to get selected You thought it was on the square and your a Sgt. with a few years on in order to be a Sgt and you still believe its legit
just saying
I can tell you from personal experience that 1) the man is not to bright, and 2) that he isn't interested in anything anyone has to say that is contrary to his "vision." He will use the time to lecture the attendees on "Brown's way". He'll tell you to be agressive and take names and kick ass but he'll deny it if you get caught and throw anyone under the bus. Be careful, be very, very careful.
For the powers that by to sit by and say that manpower isn't the problem, they are FN nuts. They keep coming up with these idiotic suggestions, programs and ideas of how to combat the out of control crime in the city when something so simple of an answer is right their in front of them. HIRE MORE COPS! We're short almost 3,000 officers and keep sinking lower and lower every month. Wake Up!!
Bullshit I say. The second a police officer with balls stands up and in a professional tone and manner, tells the bosses how it is and what really needs to be done, that officer will be fucked with, dumped, denied time, etc just for speaking his mind and speaking the truth. Who are they kidding.
what about some of the INCOMPETENT Blue shirts that we have on this job what do you do with them?
Its the incompetant bosses that let them fall through the cracks. Its a vicious circle.
Ernie Brown is a joke.
replace the 17th district commander violence is on the rise. he is a do nothing and the cops cant stand him. He is not a lead. Morale sux
Some one should ask him why he stripped 5 officers in one day. 30 day's pending. He's losing his mind. Or maybe its payback for those 2 officers sueing him! Either way. He's a DICK!
Incompetent Supervisors should be @ The Top the List
10/28/2010 01:01:00 AM
and #2 on the list should be dog-ass complainers who think they are entitled to everything without ever having to work for it
It's not the number of officers we have, it's the number of officers that go out every day and work. No matter how many officers the city hire, we're still gonna have a large number of dog ass officers that go out every day and do nothing.
Anonymous said...
what about some of the INCOMPETENT Blue shirts that we have on this job what do you do with them?
10/28/2010 07:48:00 PM
They get merit promotions and become incompetent bosses.
Be careful when you say, "get rid of ---bosses." When they do and you get another shithead, you get what you deserve! Sometimes its best to just deal with the idiot, at least you know which way to duck..... Just sayin.
Ernest Brown for mayor...of Ford Hgts. or Gary, IN.
When the Aldermen of the districts we live in start asking Ernie, why am I hearing that you are pulling the police from my ward.
When our elected officials say to E.B., my constituents (resident cops and their neighbors) are up in arms over how you and Jody are fucking over the department then he will listen.
Of course the Alderman has to share the blame for allowing the department to be cut down so Shorty can spend the money on his pals.
We must make the politicians FEAR US. We should have a 95% cop/voter turn out. Have you voted yet?
For God's sake...
if your are the POLICE and reading this, in Chicago, get your ass out and VOTE!
...or else you are part of the problem.
This is why it's okay to use a "Use of Force" authorized head-stun on a POS who spits on or at you...
Man With Hepatitis C Gets 2 yrs. for Spitting On Cop
October 30, 2010
A Chicago man with hepatitis C who spit in the mouth of a Burns Harbor, Ind., police officer was sentenced to two years in prison.
Frank S. Vasquez, 56, was sentenced Thursday on a felony battery to a law enforcement officer and misdemeanor driving while intoxicated.
Vasquez was handcuffed and his ankles manacled, and he was wearing a spit mask after spitting at officers when he began kicking and damaging the back seat of a squad car in September 2009.
He dislodged the mask and spit at an officer who so far has tested negative for hepatitis.
Link: http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/2848634,CST-NWS-spit30.article
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