Massive Retirements
Word from HQ is that almost 100 people retired today.
100. Just today. Among them, 10 captains, 10 lieutenants, and an assortment of sergeants, detectives and officers.
When is this big hiring wave supposed to get underway?
100. Just today. Among them, 10 captains, 10 lieutenants, and an assortment of sergeants, detectives and officers.
When is this big hiring wave supposed to get underway?
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
206 Comments:
You ain't seen nothing yet! The year's not over.
Too much BS under the WEISel/Masters regime.
Anyone who has the time to go will likely go soon, or early next. I guess even Danny Dugan pulled the pin today. Boy, did he get a rude awakening about loyalty among the Goldstars.
Well, that's about half of the number of the expected new hires for next year, and the year isn't even over yet.
The city that works is about to stop in its foot steps. Wait until we to through the X-Mas burglaries and robberies. And after the summer of 2011 we will all wish we were retired. All the best to everyone who could get out while the going is good. Because we are going to another all new low. Take a deep breath before the city goes under.
not only are many guys itching to get the hell out of here but many younger officers are looking for another line of work---- many others are 20 and out no matter how old they are---- 200 new hires in 2011 will be like a band aid on a cut artery--- just wait till next summer when people want off--- good luck, you better start putting in your slips now--- on a seperate note, in my 20 plus years on this job I have never seen such poor supervision--- nobody can make a decision without getting on the phone and calling someone---
Christ Jesus, 100 at a crack? That's enough to form up and have a going-away parade of men wearing goofy fishing hats, carrying hunting shotguns, tennis rackets, beer coolers, what have you -- all with a hand free to wave a selected finger in the direction of the Supt.'s office, of course.
How embarassing to get them all in one place and have a KMA ceremony in Daley Plaza...guys waving signs saying "I GOT MY PENSION LET DA CITY BURN."
Color guard, of course, with the fife player doing the old Revolutionary War tune, "The World Turned Upside Down."
"Demoralizing" ain't the word...
Can't really blame them, it used to be fun to show up to work a shift. the machine is probably happy to see more "vets" fly the coop". They'll end up hiring a security agency for way less than the real police cost.
You can be very sure that the politicians will still get Police service. We will have to deal the minimum wage "rent a cops" hired on the recommendations of the pretend revs & the ward office.
Praise the lord and stock up on ammo !
Glad I beat the rush and did it last month. Still can't quite grasp that 'retired' stamped on my i.d., but I'll get over it.
Funny thing is, I still loved the job, but hated what it had become. It was miserable to go to work every day and be surrounded by the extraordinary decline of morale and camaraderie. The climate of mistrust and egocentrism stunk to high heaven. Time to go.
So, what was it? A hundred thirty or so of us, gone, in just the last six weeks? And, boys and girls, the year still isn't over.
names of capts, lt's or sgts????
Good luck and best wishes to all of you. Start your new life and have fun remember the good times and be thankful you are leaving now.
just great! here s a great idea, lets form another company of MSF.
That's 100 people that will tell it all on the blog lol. Live from New York its Saturday night!
When is this big hiring wave supposed to get underway?
After the 2 tier pension system is in place..
Welcome to MY world ladies and gentlemen.
If your experience is anything like mine, expect to be disoriented and for awhile. The best thing to do is get busy doing something... another job, school or a class, a project around the house, travel, SOMETHING. Don't sit around the house idle and bored. Only bad things can come of that!
The transition period between handing in the star and it actually sinking in that the power is gone and you are now just a citizen, is awkward. Instincts and decades of routine will be tested. Former white shirts will particularly notice it.
Married guys might also find their domestic situations tested. Remember that while you were at work, your spouse/partner had their own routine. Now that you're NOT leaving for work, you are invading THEIR space. You may be jockeying to realign boundaries for some time and some relationships will be destroyed entirely.
Just remember that it's all about you, now. You've sacrificed a lot to be society's guardian and garbageman. A sign I've seen by A3 says "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf", a George Orwell quote, I believe. Let me thank you all for your service. I know what it took and I appreciate that there are still rough men at the ready to allow me and my family to sleep peaceably at night.
Good luck and congratulations to you all!
I believe the number was 115.
If I had 10 more years, I would have got the hell outta dodge a long time ago and still get a pension. I wonder what cat food tastes like?
They will never be replaced
Hiring comes after they adjust the pension for new guys.
Ot
Was watching the comedy channel special on Sam kinnison. Funny shit. Sam was a preacher/reverend.
Ice T said something that stuck in my head about preachers, he said no honest rev or preacher can make any money. Only the thieving ones last.
Nice of ice T to expose the rev/preacher bullshit.
Hope they get their pension too before Quinn raises taxes
Hiring wave...? Looks more like a retiring wave. This manpower shortage is really getting along now. Every one is short everywhere. Downed patrol cars, skeleton watches, 911 backlogs hours long! PO's filling in as Sgt's. where possible. Paddy wagons as rapid response cars. Lt's as watch commanders. Where are the Field Lt's? Something has to give here...Nobody move, or this house of cards will collapse!
Oh well at least everybody has two lockers now if they want two..
Just sayin....
Congrats to all! I am jealous!
Good luck to all.......
So where is the big party going to be when we finally are rid of J-Fled? Should we have a bonfire in the lot at 35th street or a pub crawl across the city? Burn him in effigy, dunk tank? Someone please tell me where the last phone booth in Chicago is so I can get the address on his retirement party poster. There is a feeling about these retirees that they have been forced off the job, given all thats happened. I am stoked for the 'J-Launched' party that's going to erupt in this department on 'T plus 30 seconds.' We'll need a young priest and an old priest and.....
Lucky people! Congrats, enjoy. Run like hell!
To be replaced by "The cop of tomorrow."
"Gone would be the stereotype of the rough-and-tumble white cop with basic education and strained interactions with minorities, replaced with a more tech-savvy, multilingual person of any race, religion or sexual orientation."
Tracey Ladner
That may be an addittional burden on the pension fund liability on the order of something like an additional 300 to 500 million dollars.
By burden, I don"t mean the pensions are undeserved.
Heaveans knows, the men and women who put their lives on the line every day for 20-25 years for an average annual salary of $60,000 to $70,000 in a city they have to pay a big chunk of that to send their kids to private schools have earned it.
On the other hand, non- first responders like aldermen, clerks, bus drivers etc., do not.
They ought to be in defined contribution plans like the rest of us in the real world.
The obvious fact is, the people paying for it all, all of us who are working and or purchasing stuff, can't live with being taxed to the extent necessary to provide the adequate cash flow to keep a head of the pension liability curve as it pertains to the surge of retirees in the pipeline.
Even more unrealalistic is tthe additional taxation necessary to close the vast gap in pension funding in relation to the pension obligations which has evolved over the last number of decades.
Short of an economic boom the likes of post WWII, It's just an economic reality that the things going to go dry just like Medicare and Social Security. Look at the population curve of the baby boom generation between the years 1946 and 1964 and it's pretty clear where we are headed.
So to those vested. Get it while you can.
Buck Naked
(not a cop).
About time, out with the old, in with the new.
Congrats to all.
Time to start ridding of the dumbing down of this dept., starting with the head of personnel to the merit promotions.
0119hrs(am) and Big City Police (Ret)0500hrs: You said it all !!
I pulled the pin 16Jul10 and feeo the same way.
Thank you CAPT. BOB
2004 we had 150 retired i a day and we pay for the insurance no 55 and free insurance hell we could have had 300 with free insurance fuck the city
no more free insurance after this year better retire in 2010 or you pay750.00 for family get out boys and girls
Big City Police (Ret.) said...
Welcome to MY world ladies and gentlemen.
If your experience is anything like mine, expect to be disoriented and for awhile. The best thing to do is get busy doing something... another job, school or a class, a project around the house, travel, SOMETHING. Don't sit around the house idle and bored. Only bad things can come of that!
The transition period between handing in the star and it actually sinking in that the power is gone and you are now just a citizen, is awkward. Instincts and decades of routine
I'm five years away. What you describe above is what concerns me. I was that little boy who never wanted to do anything but be the police. Now, being able to see the dream coming to end, I worry. I've asked myself out loud, "What do I do after this?" Sad, I know. I'm just being honest. Luckilly, I have five years to figure out what to do when this is over.
Congrats to all, enjoy your retirement, be glad you are gone from this sinking ship. I envy you and will be joining you in 4431 days, dam that's a long time, so how about Ill be joining you after two more contracts.
Good Luck and Best wishes to all the retirees. Enjoy-you've earned it.
For the rest of us-hang on, be safe, watch yourselves and your partner, and go home safe.
OT - Not that he could possibly win, but Meeks says Weis is GONE if he becomes mayor and he will seek input from FOP on the next Supt.
don't you youngsters get it , most of us that retired today are maxed out , receive a good pension with free health insurance
it's nothing against superintendent weis or mayor daley
we also are police officers that loved being the police without time and a half pay , personal days and other benefits that we fought for , you now enjoy and cannot even arrive for work on time or wear the uniform with pride
good luck to all retirees , we've earned it , let the kids pay our pension
a bit off topic but I am rdo and my checks are directly deposited into my account< i noticed my take home was nearly $30 less, anyone know whats going on with this, thanks?
Qualify yearly and carry... And investigate the Kahr P380 pistol.
The best pocket pistol available, period. Get the night sights, much easier for old retired eyes. The trigger pull is very light and sweet, maybe even better than that 30 yr. old wheelgun that is now too heavy to lug around. With the shortage of Cops on the street, you need a pocket pistol. Enjoy that retirement, you earned every bit of it !!!
OT - Is it true that even though these retirees are getting "free" health insurance, the cost to the city of that insurance will be considered as income for each officer and they will therefore be taxed at the higher income rate?
Boy, did he get a rude awakening about loyalty among the Goldstars.
Boy, I never thought I'd see the words loyalty and Goldstars in the same sentence.
off topic: just read in paper that the federal government is trying to give burge 20 plus years in prison--- his sentencing is set for jan 20---- all because a bunch of convicted felons say he tortured them and the government believes them and calls burge a liar because he denies ever torturing anyone--- apparently the federal government possesses a crystal ball which tells them who is telling the truth and who is lying---- I know he has detractors on this blog but he will always be a hero in my eyes--- I hope those wilson brothers were pissing blood and spitting out teeth.....
011th Disrtict 3rd watch lost two great bosses. Enjoy your retirement guys and thanks for always having our backs.
Superintendent Weis , with many captains retiring , consider changing duties of zone captain to an Area Watch Commander .
With an area watch commander Captain the CPD will be at full staff with captains . Captains not assigned to an Area could be assigned as Inspectors to replace Area Captains on Days off , medical or furlough .
Captain Inspectors could also stop by districts to ensure Field Lts. are conducting roll calls properly and hold the field lts accountable for appearance and actions of officers assigned to districts.
This would save CPD millions of dollars and eliminate problem of requiring Lieutenants to work out of grade .
hiring and promotions. or is the city just diminishing us through attrition? Screw shortshanks and all he has done to us!
I just posted the OT about the union dues. Called FOP and found it was a one-time deal. Something to do with our retro check. i guess they didn't get theirs.
Retirement is the best job I ever had and being retired in Florida is like being on vacation everyday and not going home. A long , healthy, retirement to you all.
Retired CPD in Florida
Good night and good luck.
CONGRATULATIONS CAPT. EGAN 013
Good Luck & Best Wishes To you. You will be missed ! Many individuals expressed their discontent, but far many more enjoyed your stay in 013 the last several years. Sad to see you go.
ENJOY YOUR MUCH DESERVED RETIREMENT.
Anonymous said...
When is this big hiring wave supposed to get underway?
After the 2 tier pension system is in place..
11/16/2010 04:21:00 AM
The Clouted Ones, Rev-runs AND White Boys, will be grandfathered into the highest tier of course.
OR... the two tier system will be put off til the next hiring "wave"(haha). It will be delayed like the pre election tax hike/post election tax bill.
if I had the time I would be gone too. If you have the time and have NO reason to stay you are simply an ididot
One can only hope the great day Lt in 019 left...
Im hoping to do 20 and get out. I will only be 43 because I was hired young but im hoping my business will take off in the next 8 yrs and I can live on that until my pension(if there is one) kicks in. I suggest we all look for other ways as the city will do everything to fuck you in the future
Best wishes to all the old timers and congrats. This dept wil not be the same without you guys and gals. I understand many of you didnt do much in the later yrs and you earned that right after putting in 25-30yrs of this shit. Unfortunately some of the young college boys dont get what it used to be like. You guys were a wealth of knowledge and information when it came to knowing how to be the REAL POLICE and the department can never repalce that. This shit we do now isnt policing, its fucking social work
The CCSA filed paperwork to indict 4 unnamed coppers from 023.
Be careful out there. Hunting season on cops has begun.
Rumor has it everyone will be bought out of their pension. You will get your money back that you put into the pension and 3.25 compunded interest. You will receive a check to do with as you please. You can roll it into deferred comp, invest yourself, go into the the new 401 plan or cash it out and pay 50% of it to the government. The bail out money will come from the Washington DC. To pay off employees now working city jobs with pensions the city would need about 5 billion. Those already retired keep their pension with safe gaurds placed to make sure there is enough money to cover all to the age of 92. It sounds very pausible to me with the way our government gives bailouts.
"Former white shirts will particularly notice it."
Yeah because you used to be "somebody" because of that white shirt. (or at least thought you were somebody-only your subordinates can attest to that)
Now you're just "Bob" or "Tom" or "My asshole husband."
But so what. Retire. Enjoy life. Live to tell the tale! Hopefully there's more to your existence than CPD.
Congratulations on your retirement!
I hope to be there with you next year!
- 13 Months to Go!
Went to the last day cake-n-coffee at HQ for Chief Bobby Zavala.
The Real Police, a Great Boss a True Gentleman.
As one speaker said, and I observed, his calm voice talking to cops who were hurt made you know that everything was going to be all right.
Good Luck Bobby, May You Collect Many More Pension Checks Then Paychecks.
Be safe on the Streets. If everyone sticks together and watches each others backs, hopefully we can get by till the new hirees arrive. Hope for a cold winter.
Thanks Daley and Weiss for putting the Final Kiss of Death to the CPD.
As of two weeks ago there were approximately 425 officers that were maxed out. The top 5 were over 60 w/more than 40 years of service. Can someone help me understand this mindset? The difference between working and retiring is no more than $30k. Add in gas, meals, headaches, bullshit and God forbid something happening to you and it's not worth it.
Congratulations to all. Thank you for your service to us citizens.
Now do yourselves a favor and get the hell out of this city before it fully becomes like Detroit. You deserve a better life than what this cesspool of a city has to offer.
I work in 019 put in a little time in the ghetto and wound up here couple years ago . Always had back log in the ghetto during watch change and busy nites in summer but never experienced it in 019 now an every day occurrence every morning there rushing us out cuz of the back log or as they call it. Now the rap how bad is shit when ur in a back log in fuckin 019 bullshit calls but none the less shows man power issues are real bad in retirement dist
Not to rain on anyones parade, but look for QUINN to raise taxes, talk of pension re-structuring, even taxing the pensions of public employees.
It took me about three months after I retired to realize I was not just on furlough. Now I went out and bought a big clock that only has the days on it. No numbers because if the neighbors don't put the garbage out, I wouldn't even know it was tuesday. I figured is I worked a 40 hour week, I would be clearing $29.00 an hour. Not bad for just putzing around all day.
Many more retiring to come! The non-existant management,the fakers weraing "Our uniform," the clouted,the police officers that work hard being stripped unjustly,with a man at the top that runs from gunfire that is more like a coward than a leader!
The numer yesterday was 68, I saw the roster in the room where everyone had to turn in their stuff. I don't know about other days, and I know people did retire on other days.
100 isnt as shocking as it seems. A few years back, future retirees realized that if you retired on Nov 15, you would get your 1st 3% Cola raise the following December 15 (13 months later) and then an additional 3% Cola the next month on January 1st That is the reason all these guys are leaving on November 15 Because of the additional Cola on that Jan 1 you for the rest of your like will get an additional $1800 to $3500 a year depending on your rank and time on the job
As far as the new hiress, bet that wont take place until next November or December After the December 11 test, has to marked , placed in order, then background checks, power tests, it will take almost a year if not longer The first guys on the Feb 2006 test weren't hired until April 2007
OFF Topic:
Anyone know when the FOP website will be back up? For two days it has displayed "site under construction."
Boy, did he get a rude awakening about loyalty among the Goldstars.
11/16/2010 12:10:00 AM
It aint just the goldstars... Its ALL of us.
No loyalty anywhere in the ranks.
off topic:
noticed 30 less dollars in my check on the 16th...anyone else have that happen?
Ice T ?? Good actor but self professed LA gangbanger and organizer of deive by shootings. He wsrote an article for a college gang book in which he bragged about the drive by shootings he was involved in as a Crip. And, he is the star guest at the Pimps Ball held every year in Chicago. It used to be at the hall on east 75th street and the lake. All of the top gangsters and pimps love to attend this and show off. No, I do not have any respect for this person who loved to play a cop, but is a self admitted thug and pimp.
LUCKY BASTARDS!!! Hey SCC, how about a list of the lottery winners?
May you all live long healthy lives and take as much pension money from this city as you can!
I basically retired years ago. I just haven't put my papers in yet. Woof woof!
MY SENIORITY JUST WENT UP YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now maybe I can get a better furlough then a Full 2
Best wishes, collect a-lotta CHECKS BOYS & GIRLS!
20 and out myself in 3yrs
no big deal that's probably it for sgt , lt and captain between 55-59
this year
now sgt , lt and captains that are 60 can go anytime
looks like many captains will be working Christmas and New Years
unless on furlough or rdo
Hope you have some where nice to retire Florida, Arizona, Texas any of the Red states.
Good luck to all retirees. I cant wait to leave this city for some sunny destination. I aint coming back.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
names of capts, lt's or sgts????
11/16/2010 01:23:00 AM
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If you're really on the job, you know how to find them.
"a bit off topic but I am rdo and my checks are directly deposited into my account< i noticed my take home was nearly $30 less, anyone know whats going on with this, thanks?"
Union dues. When you received your retro check, the union did not receive their dues. If you need more info, call the union.
08:07 What are you drinking? Your hallucinating
no its not true. When you retire and get free insurance, the cost to the city is not considered income. I know I retired a few years ago and received the free insurance
Y'all come on down to Flawida. 80+ near Tampa today.
So, what was it? A hundred thirty or so of us, gone, in just the last six weeks? And, boys and girls, the year still isn't over.
11/16/2010 01:19:00 AM
No, after 15 November it is essentially over as far as retirements, unless somebody is asleep at the switch.
All things considered, a member that retires AFTER 15 November and BEFORE 01 January has very little foresight and is a very poor planner or is one step ahead of the law or is one step ahead of being fired!
For us, as far as voluntarily retiring from the job, with all conditions being normal, and regardless of age or service, that period of time is a financial dead zone.
With all of these "holes" in the cpd due to retirement etc...
the cpd budget must look pretty "fat".
13500 members minus what ???
4-5 thou?
Where's the money?
Show us the money!
did jfled with it?
No foia here media whores...keep movin, notin ta see here.
keep movin
@10:56 wrote:
--The bail out money will come from the Washington DC.--
OK, I hope this only makes people smarter, and not more stressed, but what is written above is almost certainly not true. The new Republican house, the fact that all but 2 TARP-voting Senators up for reelection were NOT reelected, the fact that treasury yields are going UP even while the Federal Reserve is trying to drive them down... this should tell you something.
What this tells you is that there is no money coming to save pensions or cities or counties or states. More austerity is coming.
The government is out of money, the Fed and most other central banks are out of ideas, and it looks like nobody has any idea what to do next.
I'm not sure there will be much sympathy for early retirees when the hats get passed around. I am truly sorry to say this, but I'd beg people here to please make sure you are aware of how underfunded your pension is, and how unlikely it is that there is any more help coming from anywhere else.
May God be with each of you.
Anonymous said...
100 isnt as shocking as it seems. A few years back, future retirees realized that if you retired on Nov 15, you would get your 1st 3% Cola raise the following December 15 (13 months later) and then an additional 3% Cola the next month on January 1st That is the reason all these guys are leaving on November 15 Because of the additional Cola on that Jan 1 you for the rest of your like will get an additional $1800 to $3500 a year depending on your rank and time on the job
As far as the new hiress, bet that wont take place until next November or December After the December 11 test, has to marked , placed in order, then background checks, power tests, it will take almost a year if not longer The first guys on the Feb 2006 test weren't hired until April 2007
11/16/2010 12:12:00 PM
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You are partioally correct. Yes, by retiring on Nov 15, you will get you first COLA increase the following December, but it is on the 30th, 2011 not the 15th. You will then receive the second one on January 30, 2012 That is 2 increases in 2 months. The magic of ritiring on or before the 15th of any month is that you will recieve your first check on the 30th of the following month and it will include the amount from the first two weeks. If you wait until the 16th or after you must wait two months to receive your first check. I know that is probably clear as much, but believe me when you get close, you will understand.
Rumor has it everyone will be bought out of their pension. You will get your money back that you pu nto the pension and 3.25 compunded interest. Yo will receive a check to do with as you please. You can roll it into deferred comp, invest yourself...
Well fact has it that state law guarentees our pension. 2 tiered system is unconstitutional. That is why the boneheads wanted the constitutional convention to change it.
To be replaced by "The cop of tomorrow."
"Gone would be the stereotype of the rough-and-tumble white cop with basic education and strained interactions with minorities, replaced with a more tech-savvy, multilingual person of any race, religion or sexual orientation."
Tracey Ladner
11/16/2010 07:29:00 AM
"Everything is not enough."
--Mayor Richard M. Daley
This administration is producing stuff that will ring down the corridors of time...
Remeber Meigs Field!
Remember St. Johannes Cemetery!
Remember Michael Reese Hospital!
Hell -- remember Chicago. All gone now...even Marshall Fields got New Yawked.
OT - Is it true that even though these retirees are getting "free" health insurance, the cost to the city of that insurance will be considered as income for each officer and they will therefore be taxed at the higher income rate?
11/16/2010 09:22:00 AM
U can thank Obama for that. That is how he is going to pay for the dogs that don t have insurance in his plan. If the city says it cost 20 k for ur insurance the 20k will be added to ur income ... so u go into a higher tax bracket and pay more taxes.Boy i m tired of carrying the dogs in this city. They commit the crime and we give them free health care
To Anonymous said...
That may be an addittional burden on the pension fund liability on the order of something like an additional 300 to 500 million dollars........
Do you know that cops do not receive social security. It would cost the city more to start to have to contribute towards the social security system for every employee. The pension plan was devised to save the city money by not forcing them to pay into social security system for each employee. They made this system of pension to save them money by having people in place invest(not being robbed by a mayors nephew helps ) . I hope you know your defined contribution with the city matching and now having to pay social security would cost the city more. The only burden on tax payers is because it was underfunded by a city w/state decided not to fully fund and borrow from repeatedly. If you look at Indiana pension system which requires it funding and does not allow states and city's to borrow from it. They do not have the burden on tax payers like Illinois nor are their citizens crying out to remove pensions. The city and state of Illinois has known for decades (80's ) about the need to fund fully the pension and looming debt. But that state (Indiana) likes to try to balance its budget oppose to buying votes with all the free rides to democratic voters. The only thing taking away the pension does is makes politicians look like they have done something. The voter(average citizen) doesn't realize that the cost is now shifted under a new column in the city's costs in account/budget as in the basic cost to any employer to have an employee. It will cost the tax payer more because it has social security costs and benefit costs for defined contribution plans.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Rumor has it everyone will be bought out of their pension. You will get your money back that you put into the pension and 3.25 compunded interest. You will receive a check to do with as you please. You can roll it into deferred comp, invest yourself, go into the the new 401 plan or cash it out and pay 50% of it to the government. The bail out money will come from the Washington DC. To pay off employees now working city jobs with pensions the city would need about 5 billion. Those already retired keep their pension with safe gaurds placed to make sure there is enough money to cover all to the age of 92. It sounds very pausible to me with the way our government gives bailouts.
where do you get this from? the city is still on the hook for their match. how can you make up such a stupid statement ?
off topic:
noticed 30 less dollars in my check on the 16th...anyone else have that happen?
11/16/2010 12:47:00 PM
Mine too, will have to wait till I got back tomorrow and look at my stub.
Superintendent Weis , with many captains retiring , consider changing duties of zone captain to an Area Watch Commander .
With an area watch commander Captain the CPD will be at full staff with captains . Captains not assigned to an Area could be assigned as Inspectors to replace Area Captains on Days off , medical or furlough .
Captain Inspectors could also stop by districts to ensure Field Lts. are conducting roll calls properly and hold the field lts accountable for appearance and actions of officers assigned to districts.
This would save CPD millions of dollars and eliminate problem of requiring Lieutenants to work out of grade .
11/16/2010 09:35:00 AM
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Or, better yet, Mr. Weis, how about you don't mess with ANYTHING else on this Department and just go away?
Do not meddle, do not tinker, do not alter, do not 'improve'. Just leave. Everything you touch turns to garbage.
OT - Is it true that even though these retirees are getting "free" health insurance, the cost to the city of that insurance will be considered as income for each officer and they will therefore be taxed at the higher income rate?
11/16/2010 09:22:00 AM
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NOT true. This misconception comes because some genius decreed it would be shown on the W2 forms. It may just be a matter of time, but there is NO reporting of this as income at this point in time. Check Kiplinger and Snopes for info and variations on this rumor.
Oh, and if it DOES come to pass, sometime down the road, it won't just be taxable for retirees as a 'benefit'; it will be taxable for active members, too.
My check was $30.00 less too. WTF??????????????????
'I work in 019 put in a little time in the ghetto and wound up here couple years ago . Always had back log in the ghetto during watch change and busy nites in summer but never experienced it in 019 now an every day occurrence every morning there rushing us out cuz of the back log or as they call it. Now the rap how bad is shit when ur in a back log in fuckin 019 bullshit calls but none the less shows man power issues are real bad in retirement dist.'
Random thoughts here...If there's a backlog in 019 on days, then all I can say to that, officer, is that you work with a bunch of LAZY MFers. You guys don't receive enough calls to be in a backlog on any of the three watches once baseball season ends. The supervision in 019 must be awful. How can Weis justify keeping Kenny there as cmdr when he has dumped so many others for alleged 'performance' issues? I'm just saying.
The 'big party' for Weis's eventual departure should be held OUTDOORS, at the beach around the museum campus, of course! That's where the long disbanded 'summer mobile force' used to hold their 'end of beach patrol' parties, and it would be a fitting location to have a huge bonfire, and possibly even burn Weis in effigy! Weis will be here until May (thanks Shortshanks), so the weather might even cooperate for huge spring 2011 shindig! Think about it...I'm sure lots of retirees would make appearances at that one.
And how's this for stupid? Weis has actually sent out LETTERS to all retirees who left before April of this year. It seems he's going to throw a retirement party for those people on his own, and he expresses a 'desire to meet you' at the party. I can't imagine anyone who left this year would want to see, speak with or shake the hand of anyone so seriously incompetent to sail the CPD ship, let alone wear the uniform. Are there any house mice out there from 35th st. who can tell us how many people have actually called Weis's office and expressed a desire to attend this nonsense?
As of two weeks ago there were approximately 425 officers that were maxed out. The top 5 were over 60 w/more than 40 years of service. Can someone help me understand this mindset? The difference between working and retiring is no more than $30k. Add in gas, meals, headaches, bullshit and God forbid something happening to you and it's not worth it.
11/16/2010 11:09:00 AM
It appears you will always have problems with the mind set of others. The first lesson to be learned on the job is that difference is not necessarily wrong. Learn to live with those who differ from your exaulted opinions. After all no one knows everything, not even SCC.
Anonymous said...
a bit off topic but I am rdo and my checks are directly deposited into my account< i noticed my take home was nearly $30 less, anyone know whats going on with this, thanks?
11/16/2010 09:19:00 AM
My check was also nearly $30 less and have no idea why. I'm RDO also so I won't be able check where it went until I get back to work and check the print out. Any one?
Anonymous said...
The CCSA filed paperwork to indict 4 unnamed coppers from 023.
Be careful out there. Hunting season on cops has begun.
11/16/2010 10:55:00 AM
Details...or just another BS rumor?
Just saw J-Fled now on the news at a graduation.
It made me sick to see him in our uniform, to him it's a costume standing next to the arch criminal Shortshanks.
What made it worse, (look for it on the 10 o'clock news) get a haircut you idiot!
Geeze, this guy is suppose to have been a Captain, United States Army?!?!?
Anonymous said...
off topic: just read in paper that the federal government is trying to give burge 20 plus years in prison--- his sentencing is set for jan 20---- all because a bunch of convicted felons say he tortured them and the government believes them and calls burge a liar because he denies ever torturing anyone--- apparently the federal government possesses a crystal ball which tells them who is telling the truth and who is lying---- I know he has detractors on this blog but he will always be a hero in my eyes--- I hope those wilson brothers were pissing blood and spitting out teeth.....
11/16/2010 09:33:00 AM
I agree with your every word. Jon Burge is a hero. He should have never been prosecuted, but having been done, his Viet Nam military "hell" time should count as time considered served.
And never forget Police Officer Richard James O'Brien #5337 of Class 73-2C and his partner on Tuesday-09 February 1982, Police Officer William P. Fahey #4194. Jon Burge did not fail them, rather, he honored them and brought their murderers to justice.
Also never forget, POS George Ryan for commuting the death sentences given to the Wilson brothers. George Ryan and the Wilson brothers should burn in hell together.
Superintendent Weis , with many captains retiring , consider changing duties of zone captain to an Area Watch Commander .
With an area watch commander Captain the CPD will be at full staff with captains . Captains not assigned to an Area could be assigned as Inspectors to replace Area Captains on Days off , medical or furlough .
Captain Inspectors could also stop by districts to ensure Field Lts. are conducting roll calls properly and hold the field lts accountable for appearance and actions of officers assigned to districts.
This would save CPD millions of dollars and eliminate problem of requiring Lieutenants to work out of grade .
11/16/2010 09:35:00 AM
GFY with your goofy idea... PROMOTE some LIEUTENANTS to CAPTAIN... then you will be at full staff with captains...
If you don't like the "selection process" then propose one that makes you happy, to both the city and the captains union, since it is a matter up for bargaining.. (the selection process.)
And, no, I am not up for a promotion to Captain or anything else, recently retired...
Goodby Capt A of 14. You are one of the best. Your genuine concern for the officers on your watch cannot be taught. We will miss you
I wish I could go but in the meantime, SCC please post the article from Sunday when one of the candidates for Mayor said he would send Jfed packing and promote to the Superintendent from within! Lets start rejoicing there! I sure hope the other candidates get on the band wagon!!!
Anonymous said...
As of two weeks ago there were approximately 425 officers that were maxed out. The top 5 were over 60 w/more than 40 years of service. Can someone help me understand this mindset? The difference between working and retiring is no more than $30k. Add in gas, meals, headaches, bullshit and God forbid something happening to you and it's not worth it.
11/16/2010 11:09:00 AM
I am 62 1/2 years old and still the first guy through the door. I've been that way since day one and have never changed for the last 42 years. This job is my life and I love it so much. I wish I could stay until I am 100 years old. Hell, I'll pay them to let me stay. Fuck that free health insurance! Why would anyone ever want to retire? Shuffleboard and worrying about my daily shit is not for me. Plus, I cannot stand my old lady. She's a bitch. Oops! Gotta run! But in the right direction! I smell gun powder and a Part I in the air. I need some court time!
Signed,
Locking Them Up Until They Bury Me With My Three Sets Of Cuffs!
OT....Today, Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson was issued a traffic ticket for speeding somewhere up in Nowhere Minnesota. I realize these guys are in the news occasionally for assorted bad behavior and other thug-like antics. But a lot of these guys do some really terrific behind the scenes things such as visiting hospitals, wounded vets, participating in charitable events, so on and so on. The vast majority of those I have dealt with on the street have been class acts.
Im not a Vikings fan, nor awe struck when stopping sports celebrities but I do beleive that unless the guy gives a copper a hard time, or is a perennial police problem, I really think a "play" could be given now and then. Theres nothing that requires a ticket to be issued for each stop; a verbal warning may be sufficient. Im not talking about drunks, UUW offenders or similar stupidity.
Im guessing this is just nonsense limited to small town departments, jealous officers, the munchkin police and certain State troopers of states to our north. Yes, no, maybe?
As of two weeks ago there were approximately 425 officers that were maxed out. The top 5 were over 60 w/more than 40 years of service. Can someone help me understand this mindset? The difference between working and retiring is no more than $30k. Add in gas, meals, headaches, bullshit and God forbid something happening to you and it's not worth it.
deferred comp
Good luck, TH, I'm going to miss you, you have been a great boss and a great friend! Enjoy the good life!
Anonymous said...
a bit off topic but I am rdo and my checks are directly deposited into my account< i noticed my take home was nearly $30 less, anyone know whats going on with this, thanks?
its a one time deduction for money from retro
I would like to wish CPT. M. Anderson/014 a happy retirement. A really nice send off for her yesterday. Will anyone be at J-Fled's retirement?
I lost 28 bucks this paycheck.
Another $800 more in taxes.
Merry Christmas!
To "Anonymous said...
no its not true. When you retire and get free insurance, the cost to the city is not considered income. I know I retired a few years ago and received the free insurance
11/16/2010 03:30:00 PM"
From what I understand of the Obamacare taxes, excuse me, T A X E S!!! it is what you will be getting from you insurance that will be taxed as income. If insurnace pays a $1,000.00 hospital bill you will have to pay tax on that amount according to some formula. Except if you are an illegal of course, then everything really is free.
Thank-you Democrats.
Unfortunately, sixty year old, long maxed out, Captain Richie Aguinaga was not one of the Captains who retired today.
He will probably wish he did retired today and get the 3% c.o.l.a. for the year.
MY SENIORITY JUST WENT UP YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now maybe I can get a better furlough then a Full 2
Best wishes, collect a-lotta CHECKS BOYS & GIRLS!
20 and out myself in 3yrs
11/16/2010 01:37:00 PM
17 years on and you can only get a Full 2?!?!?
You're doing it wrong...
The CCSA filed paperwork to indict 4 unnamed coppers from 023.
Be careful out there. Hunting season on cops has begun.
11/16/2010 10:55:00 AM
Bullshit.
many others are 20 and out no matter how old they are
--This is my way of thinking. 20 & out - Out of this Department, Out of this City, Out of this State!
03:59 I stand corrected You were right about the dates of the 2 colas in 2 months. Dont know what I was thinking, there is no check on the 15th of December or any month
I'm five years away. What you describe above is what concerns me. I was that little boy who never wanted to do anything but be the police. Now, being able to see the dream coming to end, I worry. I've asked myself out loud, "What do I do after this?" Sad, I know. I'm just being honest. Luckilly, I have five years to figure out what to do when this is over.
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I would never be one to give advice as to what you should do, but get yourself set to do something. The day will be here before you know it, trust me. I retired two months ago, and I love it. You do things on your own schedule. Take a class, find a PART TIME job that you want to work, or don't. Fix up the house, take a drive, read a fucking book. But whatever you do, it is your choice.
I am like you, I always wanted to be the police and I was for 26 yrs. It was fun most of the time, more fun some days than others. Less fun most recently. I made a good living, educated my kids, paid off a house. I worked every kind of side job there was, like a lot of people, went to court and worked OT when I could. No real complaints, I did it to provide for my family. I met a TON of great people, also some assholes, but they made me appreciate the good people that much more. Good bosses, bad bosses, good partners and worked with some goofs. But always, always, we had each others backs.
I will miss that rush of adrenaline, and I don't have to explain that, not to other coppers.
I'll be the guy in my own car waving when a squad goes by. I still do that our of reflex, and I hope that reflex never leaves me.
Watch out for each other, enjoy your family, and above all-be safe.
OT. Two P.O.s promoted to Commander today at the mayors detail. Michael p. Smith and Brian l Thompson. Any one can connect the dots to these two clouted ones?
Today?
On the same day they're trying to give Burge jail time?
Who would have guessed?
Nov 15 is ALWAYS the big day for retirements. it is the last retirement day of the year in which people get the 35 COLA in the new year and they still get a pension check in this year. there will be near zero retirements for the rest of the year. This always happens. Not unusual.
Anonymous said...
"a bit off topic but I am rdo and my checks are directly deposited into my account< i noticed my take home was nearly $30 less, anyone know whats going on with this, thanks?"
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To be precise the FOP received their dues but not the increases in dues that went into effect. This was, as usual, the City of Chicago's fault.
The City agreed to send out a mailing to all sworn and explaining this and to place it in the CO books of all units citywide.
The City, of course, neglected to do this and allowed the FOP to take the blame. This is how Daley City works.
We can only pray the next mayor does things better. Good riddance to this piece of shit mayor and his good for shit cowardly bastard police superintendent.
Anonymous said...
Good luck to all retirees. I cant wait to leave this city for some sunny destination. I aint coming back.
11/16/2010 02:31:00 PM
I would even like to go to some nice state where it snows like crazy. As long as there is no family named Daley who runs the place like Al Capone ran the mob.
Anonymous said...
Qualify yearly and carry... And investigate the Kahr P380 pistol.
The best pocket pistol available, period. Get the night sights, much easier for old retired eyes. The trigger pull is very light and sweet, maybe even better than that 30 yr. old wheelgun that is now too heavy to lug around. With the shortage of Cops on the street, you need a pocket pistol. Enjoy that retirement, you earned every bit of it !!!
11/16/2010 09:21:00 AM
I won't be carrying a pocket pistol around this city. I will be gone gone gone.
Two from 025 went yesterday, 15NOV, I drove one myself. Staff on scene told me there were 60 on that day. Yes, even Dugan. Good for them, they deserve it. Still love the game but hate the players (Bosses) !
Anonymous Anonymous said...
MY SENIORITY JUST WENT UP YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now maybe I can get a better furlough then a Full 2
Best wishes, collect a-lotta CHECKS BOYS & GIRLS!
20 and out myself in 3yrs
11/16/2010 01:37:00 PM
Sure can...2B-3A
OT: Another Cozzi-like railroading in progress? Let's hope not!
Park Ridge cop charged with beating 2 cuffed teens
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/11/high-ranking-park-ridge-cop-indicted-for-beating-2-teen-boys.html
Free Cozzi!
Answer the call!
How come they didn't feature the real beat cars you guys drive out here in the ad? The new video shows Cmdr. Schmitz and fighting gangs.
Why don't they show how women are mistreated, officers who get hurt are pushed back on the job since we're understaffed, etc.?
Michael p. Smith and Brian l Thompson. Any one can connect the dots to these two clouted ones?
11/16/2010 08:58:00 PM
Daley's third cousins once removed
The magic of retiring on or before the 15th of any month is that you will receive your first check on the 30th of the following month and it will include the amount from the first two weeks. If you wait until the 16th or after you must wait two months to receive your first check. I know that is probably clear as much, but believe me when you get close, you will understand.
11/16/2010 03:59:00 PM
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Actually, you made it pretty clear. Let me just add the rationale...
If you retire on or before the 15th, the pension board considers you for retirement benefits (approval) at their next meeting, near the end of the month. If you retire AFTER the 15th of the month, they don't put you into consideration until the NEXT month's meeting!
So, unless you're independently wealthy and can wait more than two months to get your first retirement check, retire on or before the 15th.
Oh, and plan ahead and set a little actual cash aside for that dry six weeks.
Im not a Vikings fan, nor awe struck when stopping sports celebrities but I do beleive that unless the guy gives a copper a hard time, or is a perennial police problem, I really think a "play" could be given now and then. Theres nothing that requires a ticket to be issued for each stop; a verbal warning may be sufficient. Im not talking about drunks, UUW offenders or similar stupidity.
Im guessing this is just nonsense limited to small town departments, jealous officers, the munchkin police and certain State troopers of states to our north. Yes, no, maybe?
11/16/2010 06:31:00 PM
He plays a child's game for millions of dollars a year. By all means he should be given a break on all "small" crimes. He is a hero. Anything else would be ridiculous.
You are such a douche bag I can't even wrap my mind around this kind of thinking.
Anonymous said...
As of two weeks ago there were approximately 425 officers that were maxed out. The top 5 were over 60 w/more than 40 years of service. Can someone help me understand this mindset? The difference between working and retiring is no more than $30k. Add in gas, meals, headaches, bullshit and God forbid something happening to you and it's not worth it.
11/16/2010 11:09:00 AM
I am 62 1/2 years old and still the first guy through the door. I've been that way since day one and have never changed for the last 42 years. This job is my life and I love it so much. I wish I could stay until I am 100 years old. Hell, I'll pay them to let me stay. Fuck that free health insurance! Why would anyone ever want to retire? Shuffleboard and worrying about my daily shit is not for me. Plus, I cannot stand my old lady. She's a bitch. Oops! Gotta run! But in the right direction! I smell gun powder and a Part I in the air. I need some court time!
Signed,
Locking Them Up Until They Bury Me With My Three Sets Of Cuffs!
11/16/2010 06:18:00 PM
I call shenanigans on this post. The only time you are first thru that door is when the metamucil kicks in.
TO:11/16/2010 06:31:00 PM
Unfortunately a lot of the small town rural cops are on video and under pressure to produce tickets, because they are a big source (near their only) of revenue. They don't have the discretion we have. Or use to have. It is being whittled away. Mostly by shaky coppers.
And just because the copper is in Minnesota doesn't mean he is a Viqueens fan.
Or maybe he is a Viqueens fan and he is pissed at the way they played against the Bears.
Awesome arrests and money seizure by Asset Forfeiture Unit and Intelligence Unit in 017 tonight. Millions recovered.
"Michael p. Smith and Brian l Thompson. Any one can connect the dots to these two clouted ones?"
Thompson has been on the midgets detail for practically his whole career. DeLaSalle graduate. Never cared enough to worry about who his phone call is.
I would like to wish CPT. M. Anderson/014 a happy retirement. A really nice send off for her yesterday. Will anyone be at J-Fled's retirement?
11/16/2010 06:59:00 PM
She wrote the famous mexicans are drunks that piss in the street and beat their wives letter almost 15 years ago. The commander of 012 got dumped and they made her a captain when they started up the clout captain program.
11/16/2010 06:36:00 PM
When I retired 3 years ago my monthly take home pay was only $700different. After getting 3 COLA raises it's almost the same money. My partner didn't wait for the city hospitalization offer and is paying $515 a month. So for waiting the 2 years I get that much more than him. My point, the job sucks, the people you work with a the best, and the retirement money is fantastic. Unfortunately the new guys and girls won't see that with the Daley F.Y. plan.
OT - Not that he could possibly win, but Meeks says Weis is GONE if he becomes mayor and he will seek input from FOP on the next Supt.
11/16/2010 09:04:00 AM
Wait, you mean the same rev-er-rund / sen-tor meeks that set up that 005th Dist Sgt a few years ago on some race-baiting bullshit? That same meeks?
FUCK meeks!
Either way, no matter who the new Mayor is, j-fraud is packing his bags.
Be careful out there. Hunting season on cops has begun.
11/16/2010 10:55:00 AM
You must be new. Hunting season has been around for a few years now.
Ice T ?? Good actor but self professed LA gangbanger and organizer of deive by shootings. He wsrote an article for a college gang book in which he bragged about the drive by shootings he was involved in as a Crip. And, he is the star guest at the Pimps Ball held every year in Chicago. It used to be at the hall on east 75th street and the lake. All of the top gangsters and pimps love to attend this and show off. No, I do not have any respect for this person who loved to play a cop, but is a self admitted thug and pimp.
11/16/2010 12:49:00 PM
Same Ice T that wrote "Fuck da Police"?
Fuck Ice T.
"I would like to wish CPT. M. Anderson/014 a happy retirement. A really nice send off for her yesterday."
CLUELESS HARPY POS, GOOD RIDDANCE!!
Anonymous said...
I work in 019 put in a little time in the ghetto and wound up here couple years ago . Always had back log in the ghetto during watch change and busy nites in summer but never experienced it in 019 now an every day occurrence every morning there rushing us out cuz of the back log or as they call it. Now the rap how bad is shit when ur in a back log in fuckin 019 bullshit calls but none the less shows man power issues are real bad in retirement dist
11/16/2010 11:21:00 AM
BULLSHIT.......who are you kidding? Is this Lt. G, you're the only one who "sees" a backlog!
To the poster who inquired about PO Brian Thompson, who was promoted to one of the two 'Cmdr' positions in the Mayor's Detail: Brian is a good man. I worked with him many years ago in the 018th Dist. after he and his then-partner transferred there from the Deuce. Brian's been assigned to Detached Services for many years now.
I just hope he doesn't get too comfortable in the new position. The next Mayor will undoubtedly change the lineup in their security Detail, and it's very likely that the two PO 'Cmdrs' appointed today will likely return to PO status sometime next year after the next Mayor is elected.
Im hoping to do 20 and get out. I will only be 43 because I was hired young but im hoping my business will take off in the next 8 yrs and I can live on that until my pension(if there is one) kicks in. I suggest we all look for other ways as the city will do everything to fuck you in the future
Thought you needed a minimum of 20 yrs AND be 50 yrs old to receive a pension?
Rumor has it everyone will be bought out of their pension. You will get your money back that you put into the pension and 3.25 compunded interest. You will receive a check to do with as you please. You can roll it into deferred comp, invest yourself, go into the the new 401 plan or cash it out and pay 50% of it to the government. The bail out money will come from the Washington DC. To pay off employees now working city jobs with pensions the city would need about 5 billion. Those already retired keep their pension with safe gaurds placed to make sure there is enough money to cover all to the age of 92. It sounds very pausible to me with the way our government gives bailouts.
Really. And where did you hear this one? I call bullshit on this.
off topic:
noticed 30 less dollars in my check on the 16th...anyone else have that happen?
Your check is $30 less because you are contributing to buy JFled a nifty retirement present. Didn't you get the memo? LOL!
Michael p. Smith and Brian l Thompson. promoted where???????????
Michael p. Smith and Brian l Thompson. Any one can connect the dots to these two clouted ones?
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Uh, Mikey Smith is legit. If you remember, he's the one that caught the Indiana prison escapee on his own while at the Grand Beach Estate of Shortshanks.
"there rushing us out cuz of the back log or as they call it. Now the rap how bad is shit when ur in a back log in fuckin 019"
How bad is your career when you are beefing anonymously on a blog about the "backlog", "rap", or whatever on days in 019. Please get a life.
"there(your spelling)rushing us out" Excuse me Officer, you are on the clock, now go "earn" your paycheck for an hour.
What an absolute fucking retard.
Michael p. Smith and Brian l Thompson. Any one can connect the dots to these two clouted ones?
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Uh, Mikey Smith is legit. If you remember, he's the one that caught the Indiana prison escapee on his own while at the Grand Beach Estate of Shortshanks.
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PLEASEEEEEEEE give me a break.. the shithead just about walked into the back of squadcar.
Either YOU are Smith or you drank a gallon of Koolaid.
I would like to wish CPT. M. Anderson/014 a happy retirement. A really nice send off for her yesterday. Will anyone be at J-Fled's retirement?
11/16/2010 06:59:00 PM
She wrote the famous mexicans are drunks that piss in the street and beat their wives letter almost 15 years ago. The commander of 012 got dumped and they made her a captain when they started up the clout captain program.
I thought that was someone else. Michelle Owens???, can't remember.
Same Ice T that wrote "Fuck da Police"?
Fuck Ice T.
11/17/2010 12:32:00 AM
Nope, that was Ice Cube. Ice T wrote "Cop Killer". Big difference...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Michael p. Smith and Brian l Thompson. Any one can connect the dots to these two clouted ones?
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Uh, Mikey Smith is legit. If you remember, he's the one that caught the Indiana prison escapee on his own while at the Grand Beach Estate of Shortshanks.
11/17/2010 07:00:00 AM
How does that make him legit?
Michael p. Smith and Brian l Thompson. Any one can connect the dots to these two clouted ones?
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Uh, Mikey Smith is legit. If you remember, he's the one that caught the Indiana prison escapee on his own while at the Grand Beach Estate of Shortshanks.
So that makes him legit? Gimme a freakin break, that kind of work is being done every day in patrol, and on top of it, in the city. Not some cush spot in Michigan with the mayor. Legit? Ha Ha Ha Ha
Anonymous said...
no its not true. When you retire and get free insurance, the cost to the city is not considered income. I know I retired a few years ago and received the free insurance
11/16/2010 03:30:00 PM
A couple years ago? You must have retired at 60 to get the free ins. till Medicare/Medicaid takes over at 63 yoa.
I'm talking about this new free insurance to get the guys to retire.
I'm pretty sure this is different.
Im hoping to do 20 and get out. I will only be 43 because I was hired young but im hoping my business will take off in the next 8 yrs and I can live on that until my pension(if there is one) kicks in. I suggest we all look for other ways as the city will do everything to fuck you in the future
Thought you needed a minimum of 20 yrs AND be 50 yrs old to receive a pension?
You can leave after 20 years, for a 50% pension, but you cannot collect any of it until you are 50... at least for now...so you would need another job to live on while you are waiting...
MY SENIORITY JUST WENT UP YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now maybe I can get a better furlough then a Full 2
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Now its going to be a 2b and 3a!
;)
j/k stay safe
"... it's very likely that the two PO 'Cmdrs' appointed today will likely return to PO status sometime next year after the next Mayor is elected.
11/17/2010 05:13:00 AM
THE NEXT FRICKIN MAYOR SHOULD GET OFF THE ROYALTY KICK AND DISSOLVE THE WHOLE UNIT.
SAVE THE CITY AND THE CPD MILLION$ IN THE PROCESS, AS WELL!!!
"To the poster who inquired about PO Brian Thompson, who was promoted to one of the two 'Cmdr' positions in the Mayor's Detail: Brian is a good man. I worked with him many years ago in the 018th Dist. after he and his then-partner transferred there from the Deuce. Brian's been assigned to Detached Services for many years now.
I just hope he doesn't get too comfortable in the new position. The next Mayor will undoubtedly change the lineup in their security Detail, and it's very likely that the two PO 'Cmdrs' appointed today will likely return to PO status sometime next year after the next Mayor is elected."
Good, because hiding out on the little midget rat-fucks detail their whole careers entitles them to meritoriously going from po to commander? There are a lot of "good men" on this job as well as women, in fact, better men and women, but they don't whore themselves out to the biggest penis for a better position.
So, unless you're independently wealthy and can wait more than two months to get your first retirement check, retire on or before the 15th.
Oh, and plan ahead and set a little actual cash aside for that dry six weeks.
I retired 15JUL10. I also had $10K from Deferred taken out..just in case, a 1 time lump, albeit small sum.It helped through the transition. I don't plan on touching Deferred for a while yet, and then probably 1K p/month. I am actually "taking home" about $150 more per month retired. I understand I'm not making more...just taking home more. That check from Deferred came about 2 weeks before the 1st Retirement check..It helped.
Anonymous said...
a bit off topic but I am rdo and my checks are directly deposited into my account< i noticed my take home was nearly $30 less, anyone know whats going on with this, thanks?
11/16/2010 09:19:00 AM
FOP special assessment.
'Actually, you made it pretty clear. Let me just add the rationale...
If you retire on or before the 15th, the pension board considers you for retirement benefits (approval) at their next meeting, near the end of the month. If you retire AFTER the 15th of the month, they don't put you into consideration until the NEXT month's meeting!
So, unless you're independently wealthy and can wait more than two months to get your first retirement check, retire on or before the 15th.
Oh, and plan ahead and set a little actual cash aside for that dry six weeks.'
It's not a dry six weeks. I retired on 15 Jan. I received a check on the 16th, and my last working paycheck (what was left of my pay) on the 1st of Feb, and my pension kicked in on the last day of February, so there wasn't too much 'dry time' involved. That, and my shift differential that came in January, and I was good to go, didn't hurt any financially at all. Everyone in the mindset of retiring should start scaling down there expenses. Do you really need AT&T cell phone service, or will Cricket or a pay as you use cell phone suffice? How many calls do you really make/receive on your home land line? Get rid of it. Do you still need that guzzler, or are you planning to replace it with a more fuel efficient, smaller car? Do you really need a car at all now? I used to own two cars, one small for work, the other large for vacations. Now I have only the economical one, and I rent a larger vehicle if I want to go out on a road trip for a while. Cheaper all around, no more insurance payments for two cars, when the other car was only driven about 4/5 weeks a year tops. Eat out less, and if you plan to work another job, take your lunch to work with you.
Put up ads in your locker room now to sell off uniform articles that are in good condition, such as your blouse, reefer, raincoat, or just do like I did, get the stuff cleaned and give it away to some of your co-workers who appear to be too cheap to refreshen their uniforms. I worked a new job for a while (about 6 months) until I decided I had worked for enough assholes in my life, and quit, and I haven't looked back. Life is good in retirement!
Anonymous said...
Im hoping to do 20 and get out. I will only be 43 because I was hired young but im hoping my business will take off in the next 8 yrs and I can live on that until my pension(if there is one) kicks in. I suggest we all look for other ways as the city will do everything to fuck you in the future
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Thought you needed a minimum of 20 yrs AND be 50 yrs old to receive a pension?
11/17/2010 05:51:00 AM
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He/She will change their mind once they discover the "leaving early plan" is flawed, so much so that only a multi-millionaire would find it affordable.
First, leaving with 20 years of service and not yet 50 years of age, they cannot collect until they turn 50, so leaving at 43 means they will not get a check for 7 years. They essentially put there retirement in a dormant status for 7 years.
Second, being in a dormant status is okay if they can afford it, but the money they get when they turn 50 will be 7 years old, in that the pension amount is based on the money they earned in the last years they were in a hired status, which was 7 years back. The value of a dollar can change drastically in 7 years.
Third, there is a hefty penalty of 2.5% levied for each year before 50years of age they are not in a hired status. So having left 7 years early and after waiting 7 years to get a check, their 50% pension becomes a 32.5% pension of money that is 7 years old. Not good.
All in all, it is a bad way to go.
I would like to wish CPT. M. Anderson/014 a happy retirement. A really nice send off for her yesterday. Will anyone be at J-Fled's retirement?
She was a real nightmare in 020 a few years back, she won't be missed.
Michelle Owens Anderson retired, but did Kristine Kolman finally leave?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Rumor has it everyone will be bought out of their pension. You will get your money back that you put into the pension and 3.25 compunded interest. You will receive a check to do with as you please. You can roll it into deferred comp, invest yourself, go into the the new 401 plan or cash it out and pay 50% of it to the government. The bail out money will come from the Washington DC. To pay off employees now working city jobs with pensions the city would need about 5 billion. Those already retired keep their pension with safe gaurds placed to make sure there is enough money to cover all to the age of 92. It sounds very pausible to me with the way our government gives bailouts.
Really. And where did you hear this one? I call bullshit on this.
11/17/2010 05:55:00 AM
After reading today's Tribune I BELIEVE IT YOU BETTER ALSO!
Michael p. Smith and Brian l Thompson. Any one can connect the dots to these two clouted ones?
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Uh, Mikey Smith is legit. If you remember, he's the one that caught the Indiana prison escapee on his own while at the Grand Beach Estate of Shortshanks.
11/17/2010 07:00:00 AM
Huh? Legit? Great job on the arrest which should mean a commendation or maybe some other award but a promotion to Commander?
Legit my ass.
I am 62 1/2 years old and still the first guy through the door. I've been that way since day one and have never changed for the last 42 years. This job is my life and I love it so much. I wish I could stay until I am 100 years old. Hell, I'll pay them to let me stay. Fuck that free health insurance! Why would anyone ever want to retire? Shuffleboard and worrying about my daily shit is not for me. Plus, I cannot stand my old lady. She's a bitch. Oops! Gotta run! But in the right direction! I smell gun powder and a Part I in the air. I need some court time!
Signed,
Locking Them Up Until They Bury Me With My Three Sets Of Cuffs!
11/16/2010 06:18:00 PM
I call shenanigans on this post.
11/16/2010 10:52:00 PM
Duh, ya think? What was your first clue?
Im hoping to do 20 and get out. I will only be 43 because I was hired young but im hoping my business will take off in the next 8 yrs and I can live on that until my pension(if there is one) kicks in. I suggest we all look for other ways as the city will do everything to fuck you in the. future
Thought you needed a minimum of 20 yrs AND be 50 yrs old to receive a pension?
11/17/2010 05:51:00 AM
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Yes, you do. To RECEIVE pension payments. You can put in your twenty years and freeze your pension until you're fifty.
Read the post again. S/he is hoping their business will pay the bills until their pension checks start coming at age 50.
FOP President Mark Donahue was suppose to retire on monday 15 nov 2010, anybody see him down there?
It's not a dry six weeks. I retired on 15 Jan. I received a check on the 16th, and my last working paycheck (what was left of my pay) on the 1st of Feb, and my pension kicked in on the last day of February, so there wasn't too much 'dry time' involved.
11/17/2010 09:51:00 AM
You are incorrect.
The paycheck you received on 16 January, was compensation for the PREVIOUS pay period, 1-15 January. And, because you were retired and did not work in the following pay period, 16-31 January, you did not receive a paycheck on 01 February. If you did, it was a huge error and, essentially, you received a check for work you did not perform.
So, regardless of other money you receive, the six weeks are considered "dry" because you do not receive a paycheck during that time period. Not receiving a "working" paycheck after 16 January and not receiving your "retirement" paycheck until 01March, that time span is considered "dry", as far as a paycheck.
For a number of reasons, if you were under 54 when you retired, choosing 15 January as your retirement date was a smart move, but you are wrong about the six week dry period, as far as paychecks go.
Congratulations Captain J Dillon! Enjoy your retirement and thank you for being one of the best!
I thought that was someone else. Michelle Owens???, can't remember.
11/17/2010 08:23:00 AM
Same person. Michelle Owens became Michelle Owens-Anderson. The name changed, but she remained just as treacherous as when she was Owens. She's no good. Ask retired Lieutenant Tom Kuroski. Because of her, and her Mexican Machismo Report, he was dumped as the DC of 012. She really stuck it to him.
Anonymous said...
Michael p. Smith and Brian l Thompson. Any one can connect the dots to these two clouted ones?
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Uh, Mikey Smith is legit. If you remember, he's the one that caught the Indiana prison escapee on his own while at the Grand Beach Estate of Shortshanks.
11/17/2010 07:00:00 AM
You mean that guy who surrendered to the mayoral bodyguard? That guy? He wasn't Dillinger and Mike Smith is no Melvin Purvis but he makes a lot more now.
The CCSA filed paperwork to indict 4 unnamed coppers from 023.
they are unnamed coppers but you just so happen to know that they work in 023... yeah, ok dork. stop spreading your b.s. here. stop making people paranoid and nervous about nothing. I know for a fact that what you posted above is 100 percent false.
I retired 15 Nov 10...I knew that Doonahue was also retiring on on that date. I did not however see him. When I called H.R. They told me approx 60 retiring, when I arrived at headquarters, the # was 75. By the time I left, I was told the # was 100. To all my fellow brothers and sisters in blue, be safe out there. Remember your goal is to reach the finish line and enjoy retirement.
mikey smith is a friggin' kiss as...how you think he got that mayors spot....where will little bobby roman go when the mayor leaves...seriously...out of the academy...narcotics, trap team, mayors detail?? WTF!!! at least pay your dues kid!!!! can't wait to see the arrogant detail back in blue!!!
Everyone in the mindset of retiring should start scaling down there expenses. Do you really need AT&T cell phone service, or will Cricket or a pay as you use cell phone suffice? How many calls do you really make/receive on your home land line? Get rid of it. Do you still need that guzzler, or are you planning to replace it with a more fuel efficient, smaller car? Do you really need a car at all now? I used to own two cars, one small for work, the other large for vacations. Now I have only the economical one, and I rent a larger vehicle if I want to go out on a road trip for a while. Cheaper all around, no more insurance payments for two cars, when the other car was only driven about 4/5 weeks a year tops. Eat out less, and if you plan to work another job, take your lunch to work with you.
Put up ads in your locker room now to sell off uniform articles that are in good condition, such as your blouse, reefer, raincoat, or just do like I did, get the stuff cleaned and give it away to some of your co-workers who appear to be too cheap to refreshen their uniforms. I worked a new job for a while (about 6 months) until I decided I had worked for enough assholes in my life, and quit, and I haven't looked back. Life is good in retirement!
11/17/2010 09:51:00 AM
Petco's having a sale on cat food this week.If you hurry up you'll beat the holiday rush.Seafood for Thanksgiving dinner?Your family will love it,Good Time Charlie!!
"The obvious fact is, the people paying for it all, all of us who are working and or purchasing stuff, can't live with being taxed to the extent necessary to provide the adequate cash flow to keep a head of the pension liability curve as it pertains to the surge of retirees in the pipeline."
Buck Naked
(not a cop).
11/16/2010 07:46:00 AM
Actually you didn't account for the thieving politicians that have continually "borrowed" from the pension funds, as well as voting to not fully fund them year after year as they should have. Had the city (and state also) politicians fully funded the pensions and kept their hands out of the pension cookie jar, the funds would be awash in cash and this economic downturn would just be a minor blip, nothing to be concerned about. I hate thieving politicians.
"The transition period between handing in the star and it actually sinking in that the power is gone and you are now just a citizen, is awkward. Instincts and decades of routine"
Remember that everyone's police career will be over one day. Treat citizens with respect, just like you will expect to be treated. Remember the 2nd amendment. Even lowly citizens are lawfully entitled to possess arms for self defense. Remember that when you find a law abiding, tax paying citizen with a weapon. Don't give that asshat Anita Alvarez another UUW arrest just because she hates guns.
I retired a little over 5 years ago. I can vouch for those saying that there is a rough transition period for some officers. I was physically ill (digestive issues) and had nightmares for about 6 months. After that it went away and then I settled in to the retired life. Nothing to worry about though. The life of leisure takes some getting used to. ;)
Congratulations to all the new retirees.
Something of interest for newly retired coppers. SCC, please post or start a new thread so this info gets out.
Insurance Premiums for Retired Public Safety Officers
If you are an eligible retired public safety officer (law enforcement officer, firefighter, chaplain, or member of a rescue squad or ambulance crew), you can elect to exclude from income distributions made from your eligible retirement plan that are used to pay the premiums for accident or health insurance or long-term care insurance. The premiums can be for coverage for you, your spouse, or dependents. The distribution must be made directly from the plan to the insurance provider. You can exclude from income the smaller of the amount of the insurance premiums or $3,000. You can only make this election for amounts that would otherwise be included in your income. The amount excluded from your income cannot be used to claim a medical expense deduction.
An eligible retirement plan is a governmental plan that is:
a qualified trust,
a section 403(a) plan,
a section 403(b) annuity, or
a section 457(b) plan.
If you make this election, reduce the otherwise taxable amount of your pension or annuity by the amount excluded. The amount shown in box 2a of Form 1099-R does not reflect this exclusion. Report your total distributions on Form 1040, line 16a; Form 1040A, line 12a; or Form 1040NR, line 17a. Report the taxable amount on Form 1040, line 16b; Form 1040A, line 12b; or Form 1040NR, line 17b. Enter “PSO” next to the appropriate line on which you report the taxable amount.
Just a plan to shift costs from the city budget to the underfunded pension fund.
Stated this for at least a year now
Pension fund bankrupt.
earliest -2018
latest-2022
Congratulations Captain J Dillon! Enjoy your retirement and thank you for being one of the best!
She's om IOD, nice try.
No, I do not have any respect for this person who loved to play a cop, but is a self admitted thug and pimp.
11/16/2010 12:49:00 PM
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Don't talk about Downtown Ernie Brown like that.
He is be a committed leader.
the surge of retirees in the pipeline."
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If you look at history, this isn't really much of a surge, there are usually between 350 and 500 retirements each year.
Maybe there will be 600 or 700 this year, we are simply at the upper numbers rather than the lower, it all averages out...but it also corresponds equally to hiring "surges".. the mid to late 70's officers are all past the 29 and a day requirement, by several years... all have contributed 4-7 years longer than necessary to collect a pension.... 1986 was a banner year for hiring, I think they hired 1500 people that year, maybe more... Then, 2000-2002 we were hiring about 1,000 each year... then in 02/05 they started tapering back, then crashed to pretty low levels in 06 07-10... we will probably have to start hiring larger numbers in 2012/2013 or so again, and hopefully our economy takes a little uptick by then ...
Yes there will be changes and suffering/complaints, hopefully we get through them with as little pain as possible...
01 February. If you did, it was a huge error and, essentially, you received a check for work you did not perform.
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Yeah, I was kinda confused by that one too, perhaps he had some OT or special pay that was due to him? Anything is possible,but I agree, it wasn't for any regular work...
I'm talking about this new free insurance to get the guys to retire.
I'm pretty sure this is different.
11/17/2010 08:45:00 AM
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Actually it is exactly the same, but you have to jump through some hoops ( notify them you are retiring well in advance or by a specific date) to get it... the insurance is the same...
11/17/2010 05:55:00 AM
After reading today's Tribune I BELIEVE IT YOU BETTER ALSO!
11/17/2010 11:35:00 AM
No way, the city doesn't have the cash to start handing out that kind of money to anyone... but there will definitely be changes to those newly hired, and perhaps it might go up to those who aren't vested, maybe to all of us, I don't know, but a couple options, raise the age, raise the years to work (it was 32 and a day not too long ago, and I couldn't believe they changed it to 29, how they thought the fund could afford it) and raise the contribution (although I am sure the city doesn't want to raise their contribution). Count on almost immediate changes for new hires... then, depending on how things go, changes for more of us...
The big question will we get a pension? The thief's in Springfield (madigan clan),the daley clan,the 50 sheep all have had a hand in the theft of our pension monies! Patrick Fitzgerald should bring some big buses to city hall,and Springfield I personally would be proud to help cuff and load them all in,to 219 S.Dear born,then should all be sent to prison immediately! FREE COZZI!!
"Rumor has it everyone will be bought out of their pension. You will get your money back that you put into the pension and 3.25 compunded interest. You will receive a check to do with as you please."
What rumor? What's your source?
C'mon. Don't write this stuff unless you've got something to back it up with.
The days of seeing so and so retitred after 40 years are over. 20 MAYBE 25. I would not use the department for ant types of in investing. Go to an outside firm. Dont even put alot of money in the cpfcredit union ,u never know what kind of access the city has to them
jan robarts dillon is retiring--- woopee, maybe she can get her old job back filling up the ketchup bottles at the restaurant---- good riddance.......
Anonymous said...
I thought that was someone else. Michelle Owens???, can't remember.
11/17/2010 08:23:00 AM
Same person. Michelle Owens became Michelle Owens-Anderson. The name changed, but she remained just as treacherous as when she was Owens. She's no good. Ask retired Lieutenant Tom Kuroski. Because of her, and her Mexican Machismo Report, he was dumped as the DC of 012. She really stuck it to him.
11/17/2010 04:07:00 PM
Kurowski was a good boss but stupid.
It was not her fault that he got dumped. It was his OWN fault for not reading soemthing before signing it!!!!!
Remember that everyone's police career will be over one day. Treat citizens with respect, just like you will expect to be treated. Remember the 2nd amendment. Even lowly citizens are lawfully entitled to possess arms for self defense. Remember that when you find a law abiding, tax paying citizen with a weapon. Don't give that asshat Anita Alvarez another UUW arrest just because she hates guns.
11/17/2010 08:25:00 PM
This could be the definitive post of this thead, the week, maybe even the year.... SCC, pull this one to the top and do something with this one ! Heres a lesson for the newer members, right out of the KMA handbook .
was captain dillon forced out at63
damn, robarts is just IOD--- what happened, did she crack one of her nails turning on the motorola radio---- she is a big reason why my cuffs have been collecting rust and the city has been saving a lot in gas money---- who ever put that mount saint helen size brick on her back after all the fuck ups in 017, thank you.......
Kurowski was a good boss but stupid.
It was not her fault that he got dumped. It was his OWN fault for not reading soemthing before signing it!!!!!
11/18/2010 07:12:00 AM
It's Kuroski, not Kurowski.
And yes, he did not read it before signing it. He was a nice guy and trusted her. That is on him, but nonetheless, she was the author. And do not tell me she wasn't bright enough to know exactly what she was doing. I know this woman and she is no good. She set him up and that makes her teacherous. If she didn't set him up, then the report would be evidence of her stupidity or naivete' or both, but stupid or naive she is not. She stuck it to him, plain and simple.
retirement age will go from 50 to 58 , top pension will be 60 % for police officers with less than 10 years and new hires
How embarassing to get them all in one place and have a KMA ceremony in Daley Plaza...guys waving signs saying "I GOT MY PENSION LET DA CITY BURN."
Oh yes!
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