Squeeze?
- "The thought that someone can shoot and kill a police officer is simply unacceptable and we will find those responsible. We will squeeze that neighborhood and find who did this," said Supt. Weis.
Does this dummy have any idea what he's asking? Seriously, has he any idea what he's saying? We're going to bet the answer to that is "no."
"Squeezing" a neighborhood requires a number of preconditions on the ground before anything can happen. We're old enough to remember a few "squeezings" and may have even participated in few. First up, you need manpower. Manpower to literally shut down the intersections, dope corners, high traffic areas of any and all mayhem. That means multiple wagons, prisoner vans, teams working around the clock, etc. And you still have to answer all the regular bullshit that occurs during the course of a normal tour. We can't bring that sort of sustained pressure any more. We're short 2,000 cops, minimum.
Next you need teams of detectives pulled from all over the city to interview every single person who is the object of your "squeeze." You need wily detectives to dig into backgrounds, gain confidences, cajole, threaten, whatever, just to catch someone in a lie or someone dirty who will then make a deal for some tidbit of info that gives you a starting point. We haven't made a detective class in three years now. The veterans ranks are thin as it is.
Third, you have to have the support of the law abiding. We're not so cynical as to write off entire neighborhoods, but the "snitches get stitches" crowd is more of a presence in the 'hood than the police, which is directly attributable to the manpower shortage. Rare is the person who's going to cooperate if they know they're going to catch a beating. Or worse. They might cooperate if they're caught dirty, but otherwise?
Last, you have to have leaders. Let's be blunt here - we have none. We have a coward feeb who ran from the scene of a homicide in the leadership position. We say "leadership position" because he obviously doesn't run shit, seeing as how his original chief of staff was summarily dismissed by the mayor and replaced by an Ivy League dweeb who wants to play police and bought some horseshit qualification to "authorize" him to carry a pistol in violation of who knows how many laws. We have a serial sexual harasser who cannot hold a security clearance due to his history. A bartender whose claim to fame includes moving officers out of spots when she is challenged over her forgotten identification. A legion of deputy chiefs and assistant superintendents whose transgressions would fill books on how not to supervise and a dwindling corps of captains hanging onto a fading dream of gold star glory while committing all sorts of acts that would result in lesser clouted people being fired on a daily basis.
So you'll pardon our hesitation to "squeeze" anything at the behest of an individual who not only jack-potted an officer who already served a two-year suspension and court ordered supervision, who stood by silently while another officer who saved the lives of numerous federal agents was prosecuted via perjured testimony, and who seemingly works hand-in-hand with a police hating State's Attorney AND a supposedly "independent" police review authority that shows up at scenes to look for rule violations they are not authorized to investigate.
We'll actually need to see a definition of "squeeze" in writing and made public before risking our freedom and our families security.
UPDATE: This article was written prior to tonight's questioning of a "person of interest" in regard to the killings of Officer Flisk and Mr. Peters.
"Squeezing" a neighborhood requires a number of preconditions on the ground before anything can happen. We're old enough to remember a few "squeezings" and may have even participated in few. First up, you need manpower. Manpower to literally shut down the intersections, dope corners, high traffic areas of any and all mayhem. That means multiple wagons, prisoner vans, teams working around the clock, etc. And you still have to answer all the regular bullshit that occurs during the course of a normal tour. We can't bring that sort of sustained pressure any more. We're short 2,000 cops, minimum.
Next you need teams of detectives pulled from all over the city to interview every single person who is the object of your "squeeze." You need wily detectives to dig into backgrounds, gain confidences, cajole, threaten, whatever, just to catch someone in a lie or someone dirty who will then make a deal for some tidbit of info that gives you a starting point. We haven't made a detective class in three years now. The veterans ranks are thin as it is.
Third, you have to have the support of the law abiding. We're not so cynical as to write off entire neighborhoods, but the "snitches get stitches" crowd is more of a presence in the 'hood than the police, which is directly attributable to the manpower shortage. Rare is the person who's going to cooperate if they know they're going to catch a beating. Or worse. They might cooperate if they're caught dirty, but otherwise?
Last, you have to have leaders. Let's be blunt here - we have none. We have a coward feeb who ran from the scene of a homicide in the leadership position. We say "leadership position" because he obviously doesn't run shit, seeing as how his original chief of staff was summarily dismissed by the mayor and replaced by an Ivy League dweeb who wants to play police and bought some horseshit qualification to "authorize" him to carry a pistol in violation of who knows how many laws. We have a serial sexual harasser who cannot hold a security clearance due to his history. A bartender whose claim to fame includes moving officers out of spots when she is challenged over her forgotten identification. A legion of deputy chiefs and assistant superintendents whose transgressions would fill books on how not to supervise and a dwindling corps of captains hanging onto a fading dream of gold star glory while committing all sorts of acts that would result in lesser clouted people being fired on a daily basis.
So you'll pardon our hesitation to "squeeze" anything at the behest of an individual who not only jack-potted an officer who already served a two-year suspension and court ordered supervision, who stood by silently while another officer who saved the lives of numerous federal agents was prosecuted via perjured testimony, and who seemingly works hand-in-hand with a police hating State's Attorney AND a supposedly "independent" police review authority that shows up at scenes to look for rule violations they are not authorized to investigate.
We'll actually need to see a definition of "squeeze" in writing and made public before risking our freedom and our families security.
UPDATE: This article was written prior to tonight's questioning of a "person of interest" in regard to the killings of Officer Flisk and Mr. Peters.
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Great job all around here, thanks SCC. You kind of put the cap on it for us all, give us a reference point to get through the next day.
The other fellow here was right; you take any volunteers you can get and run 100 phone lines and ten coffeepots into a "tip van," and you call in every unneeded take-home and put policemen in them -- and grab city "Parking Enforcement," rat patrol cars, whatever ain't doin' nothin' important and slap magnetic blue lights on those too and ride down on that 'hood like they never seen. Huge scary posters offering "250,000 REWARD FOR INFORMATION LEADING TO CAPTURE AND CONVICTION OF THE KILLERS OF CHICAGO POLICE OFFICERS" might shake something loose too, in the poorest part of town.
Quarter-mil tax free is a lot of incentive -- air fare the f__k out of there and then some -- and they won't have it long/live very long once they get it anyway.
Hope something busts loose with that questioning of the parolee across the alley -- and as others remind us, someone wounded a fire investigator right around there too.
I think, if anything, we need to at least utilize the Units J-Fled did create. I don't give 2 shits if 011 or 007 have 3 shootings a night each. Send all of MSF, TRU and GEU to 004 until further notice.
But of course that won't happen because we need to make sure Shit Head and Shit Head Jr don't kill each other in 011.
J-Fled is the wrong person, at the wrong time, and certainly in the wrong place. This guy is weak.
He was picked by a criminal mayor to screw the police for political gain and found himself at the helm during one of the most violent periods of the city's history.
If this department is able to recover, it will take years to take back what has been lost on the streets. With Daly's cronies running for office, it seems highly unlikely that will ever take place.
So much for dets. Class in December....
What a sham of a department!!
WELL SAID SCC! WELL SAID!!!!
squeeze these jfled!
I thought he meant by squeeze --"Come on you rascals quit killing Chicago Policemen in cold blood, come on, please"
Pipe dream here, but I post it anyways:
Daley has millions in his reelection fund. Obviously, he isn't going to use any of it anymore. State and Federal law Grandfather him into being able to keep it and use it for personal purposes as long as taxes are paid on it. Maybe The Mayor might pony up 6 figures or so as a reward.
I know, pipe dream,,,,but a guy can hope.
And the second that you do "squeeze" somebody, J-Fled will kick you under the bus and have the Justice Department indict and prosecute you for violation of civil rights...
As much as I want the shitbag caught, I do not want another casualty..... If you think that you'll find one swinging dick exempt on this job that will stand up in Federal Court and say that they ordered you to violate somebody's civil rights and that they should be the one being prosecuted instead of you, have some more kool aid.... Especially this exempt......
He should squeeze his crystal balls and wake up.
First, this is an excellent piece of writing: well-constructed, on the point and it has good pacing. But I worry for you, Bloggers who monitor postings are held to the highest standards, please be mindful of what you let through.
Edit as you please, I'm not a regular reader.
I think, if anything, we need to at least utilize the Units J-Fled did create. I don't give 2 shits if 011 or 007 have 3 shootings a night each. Send all of MSF, TRU and GEU to 004 until further notice.
But of course that won't happen because we need to make sure Shit Head and Shit Head Jr don't kill each other in 011.
Sorry, but you're wrong on this one, the Department did it right.
From the moment of the shooting, until at least 0600 today the
004th district has been flooded with police, as it should be. MSF TRU, GEU, GIS, Narcotics, Vice, Gun teams, Tac Teams, IDOC,
CC Probation and Detectives from the area as well as citywide. (Sorry if I missed someone)
Great effort by all!
004th District Supervisor.
Anonymous said...
So much for dets. Class in December....
What a sham of a department!!
11/28/2010 02:27:00 AM
I have it on good authoirty that there will be a detective class sometime in 2011. Hang in there.
Weiss likely will be gone on 1 May when his contract runs out. Who will replace him? None other then one of those other gold stars that you do not like. After all, the machine will say they are " qualified" and list the units they commanded and their years of service. The only hope, as I see it, is a former commissioner from NYPD.
Make him define "Squeeze" in a public forum .
He watches too many hulk cartoons.
Time to go fled.
We had a bunch of police killed in the early 80's. Luckily society had a mayor with balls(Jane Byrne) and Jon Burge. All cleared with the right offender convicted. But a headline seeking USA showed up 30 years later and federal judge in custody rulings took the words "Squeeze the community" out of the language.
By the way:
All of you "By Line Bitches"
you know who you are...reporters who can't sustain their own sensational headers with accuracy or professionalism in writing.
Why is it that a "citizen" who was one time a "Cop", ten years ago, fired, and long gone from the police department is refered to as " Cop does this or that" in your headline?
But when a "Cop" such as the victim #2 in the recent police killing was ambushed...he was reported as "Citizen homeowner"?
Are you protecting something?
Would the fact that 2 more police officers were shot, in your initial by line, seem too ...
over the top?
I question journalistic intent in the City of Chicago.
How long does a professionag "tag" stay connedted before it's removed by the news?
What would an ex- Viet Nam veteran, Chicago Public school teacher, retired chicago cop, currently part time school bus driver be called???
Whatever sells.
Media has dropped below Lawyer in my opinion of professions with ethics.
“The Box Chevy Phantom said...
Heh...
Any copper "squeezing" anything in this current era will be given a long, bumpy and painful ride on the "j-fled special" with stops at the following points of interest.
376.
Corp. Counsel.
MCC.
Club Fed and other attractions.”
Obviously somewhere along the line in your career or maybe before you started, you developed a heart condition. A heart condition that you just don’t have the strength of heart to stand up against the oppressors that victimize people in the city, that you in fact live in. I for one after a long time doing this job feel sickened by the comments of those of you who anonymously post on the blog blowing the Bill Cozy trumpet and crying out how they will refuse to do there job because of there boss. I am further sickened beyond words that people are using this tragedy as a sounding board to trying to incite other Police Officers not to do anything on the street. Unfortunately in the very near future I will be at the single worst spot any Policeman would ever want to be standing, next in line to give my condolences to the family of a fallen Officer. I will at that time raise my head look into the eyes of this officer’s family and pay my deepest respect. I very much doubt the weak hearted anonymous (do nothing) posters on this blog will be able to do the same. As to the other posts about “taking the gloves off”……, what gloves are you talking about? The gloves that you in fact have put on yourself! The weak hearted have countless excuses for not doing their job but for those of us who have NEVER stopped working, we only have one reason for doing it, That’s our job and we still take the greatest pride in doing it.
Fred Hasenfang A/1/GEU
Frederick.Hasenfang@chicagopolice.org
312 745 4081
6120 S. Racine
Chicago Il 60621
Day off group 65
Currently on days if you want to comment in person, I start at 0930.
SCC, couldn't agree more with this entire post. Bullseye! Hard to believe, but the public knowledge of the incompetency of our current "leaders" is barely the tip of the iceberg.
Stay safe.
SCC, I agree with you one hundred percent about J-Fled and many of the exempts that are clueless and have no balls. But I was on scene for the whole night Friday. The exempts that were there thankfully had the balls to allow everyone to do whatever it took to find the fucks that did this. The coppers and Detectives involved were allowed to do wahatever it took. Everyone possible was interviewed, including some who did not want to be. Every inch of the area was searched for anything that could possibly give up any evidence to use. They were there to ensure that everyone was allowed to do the most thorough job possible. Whether it was the Detectives, PO's or Forensics. They did not interfere unless some lower ranking supervisor wouldn't allow something to be done. Then they overruled them. They did not interfere but allowed everyone to do the job they knew. They allowed every resource needed to be called in and intervened if someone balked at using any resource. I have to say that every Exempt, supervisor, Detective, PO and outside agency did a great job. The exempts that were idiots thankfully left early. But this was a group effort and it was great to see everyone out there being the police and not social workers. Everybody busted their ass and was allowed to do whatever it took. If every district was run like this scene was, this department would be hands on without fear of repurcussion. The sad part is there are too many bosses who don't have a clue or are afraid to do what it takes. But Friday, those supervisors were not there. It was old school and was treated that way. I think every person who was at that scene deserves a pat on the back. Whether it was CPD or an outside agency. To all the bosses out there, it was a great feeling to have the handcuffs taken off, if just for one day. The exempts let everyone do their job and just were there to override anyone who wouldn't allow eveything possible to be done.
possum head keeps saying "we" are going to do something--- excuse me, but he should be saying the real police are going to do something and then I will sacrifice whoever was out of line by taking their job away from them--- when a cop is killed the gloves come off but you better be looking over your shoulder because this back stabbing imposter we have as a superintendent will stick it up your bum--- I still have not met one street cop who trusts him.....
Squeezing anything with Jfled around will most likely end in one getting indicted!
WELL SAID... BRAVO!!!!
JUST SUCKS ANOTHER GOOD HARD WORKING OFFICER, FATHER, BROTHER, HUSBAND, SON, FRIEND GONE FOR NOTHING..
Very well done SCC!
He's laughable saying something like "squeeze." He's the reason there is no "squeezing" going on anymore. Typical politician saying something that means nothing, just saying it only to say it.
SCC, Well said my brother.
You know, SCC, I saw him say that on TV news. It rang untrue. As if J-Fled had coined a phrase to try to make himself sound like a bigshot on TV.
I was pretty sure those soon to be laughing at him would be those who are real CPD and HAVE real balls and real brains.
I can't believe how far and how fast we have fallen.
I don't know who runs the streets these days but it sure isn't the CPD.
The tip idea should not be limited to officers being shot. Nor should it be an occasional one time event.
Take the money being spent on politically connected pod camera companies and create a reward pool.
Thousands of dollars spent on a camera is one set of stationary eyes in a neighborhood. Thousands of dollars in various rewards to the citizens may be thousands of mobile eyes in the community.
Look at the environments in these neighborhoods. What are the chances of people becoming a corporate CEO or a business owner verses making it dealing drugs? What are the chances for many of them to even get and retain a job in this economy?
A scaled reward system provides an alternative to crime - a doorway to become a contributing member of society as opposed to being an outcast of society.
It's not the end all and the only answer but it may be the first step. We have to break this environment that currently exist and what's being done now isn't working.
And what if the reward was not just cash but let's say a scholarship for kids in some cases or a paid summer camp reward - something where you not only get criminals off the street but people, kids will get exposure to how the other half lives outside their crime ridden communities as well.
The actions and decisions people make in life are defined by how people intemperate the world around them. Those interpretations are made based upon your individual experiences in life. What kind of decisions can you expect when you are surrounded by only negative influences?
Yeah some may say so you want to create vigilantism than. I say it's more like an entrepreneurship opportunity to earn something for doing something society sees as positive in our communities.
After all, all the gun bans, the tech savvy stuff has been tried and it's not working. It's all reactive and not proactive. It does not create a positive influence on anyone and only rewards the elites with more financial contracts to people that would not give a single dime to a person in these communities by giving them a job cleaning a toilet part time. In other words it's not changing the environment giving people alternatives.
Fred, I do my job but will not do anything that might get me indicted or fired. If you do, good luck to you. There are countless people who need us to do what we do but it will not be done with a heavy hand any longer.
I don't know Cozzy but sure don't want to end up like him. I have had my one trip to Federal Court, no more.
I am still employed, still free. Within the law, I do what I can. No way will I take the chances I once did. If that offends you, deal with it.
Anonymous said...
“The Box Chevy Phantom said...
Heh...
Any copper "squeezing" anything in this current era will be given a long, bumpy and painful ride on the "j-fled special" with stops at the following points of interest.
376.
Corp. Counsel.
MCC.
Club Fed and other attractions.”
Obviously somewhere along the line in your career or maybe before you started, you developed a heart condition. A heart condition that you just don’t have the strength of heart to stand up against the oppressors that victimize people in the city, that you in fact live in. I for one after a long time doing this job feel sickened by the comments of those of you who anonymously post on the blog blowing the Bill Cozy trumpet and crying out how they will refuse to do there job because of there boss. I am further sickened beyond words that people are using this tragedy as a sounding board to trying to incite other Police Officers not to do anything on the street. Unfortunately in the very near future I will be at the single worst spot any Policeman would ever want to be standing, next in line to give my condolences to the family of a fallen Officer. I will at that time raise my head look into the eyes of this officer’s family and pay my deepest respect. I very much doubt the weak hearted anonymous (do nothing) posters on this blog will be able to do the same. As to the other posts about “taking the gloves off”……, what gloves are you talking about? The gloves that you in fact have put on yourself! The weak hearted have countless excuses for not doing their job but for those of us who have NEVER stopped working, we only have one reason for doing it, That’s our job and we still take the greatest pride in doing it.
Fred Hasenfang A/1/GEU
Frederick.Hasenfang@chicagopolice.org
312 745 4081
6120 S. Racine
Chicago Il 60621
Day off group 65
Currently on days if you want to comment in person, I start at 0930.
11/28/2010 09:50:00 AM
And just why do you want coppers to come see you? Did someone make a threat against you? What are you going to do? Beat a copper up? I think the majority of us aren't going to lay down but we do understand the climate. Shame on you to use this to get noticed. Maybe J-Fled will put you in his policy group now.
I miss those days when we shut-down a neighborhood for _____. SOS, Tac units from across the city, Det from every area and a boss whos only task was to bring in those responsible answerable only to 1st Deputy.
I havent stopped working kinda, I have just adapted and adjusted my work.
"And just why do you want coppers to come see you? Did someone make a threat against you? What are you going to do? Beat a copper up? I think the majority of us aren't going to lay down but we do understand the climate. Shame on you to use this to get noticed. Maybe J-Fled will put you in his policy group now."
Like I thought.....No Balls.
Old Retired Guy Here:
SCC said it better than I could. You really nailed it SCC.
squeeze this , jagoff
I for one would like to squeez Jfleds huge head in a vise
Squeeze this Supt. Weis.
Many were out there squeezing and accomplishing and you took the wind from their sails.
No one will go out there and take the chance when they know you are salivating to ram it up hard working coppers tails the moment a banger beefs .
@ 09:50:00 AM
Hiya Fred!
Who died and appointed you allmighty Police-God?
Why would any copper feel the need to "see" you about anything?
If you have such a problem with what we post then you should address your concern to the blogmeister as he/she/they have ALL right to post, censure or otherwise filter the entries on his/her/their blog.
You're a misguided missle in search of a target. Erratically flying around endangering everyone in the vicinity.
And while we obviously have your attention, stop leading with your dick & balls... Macho but stupid in this current era. Learn to comprehend what you read... Fully. Before you assume that anyone else is lacking in anything.
Now find somewhere to go but stay safe getting there.
Here's a squeeze for ya...
Brazil police claim victory over Rio drug gangs - seize 36 tonnes of pot. These two drug gangs in Rio were fighting each other and recently decided to join forces against the police instead....Now Brazil has brought in the Military police ... check out the youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tpeUNzduEo&feature=player_embedded
In honor of our fallen officers, please put a string of blue lights in your front window this holiday season. Ask your neighbors to do the same.
I look at this and wonder if I see Chicago's future.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amytQqEd0d4
The comments about city officials that are either unwilling or unable to lower the flag out of respect for the fallen make me wonder.
Does that flag represent our core values anymore?
I'm reminded of a yahoo clip out of the EU parliament recently
" we don't want that flag, "..we don't want this anthem - we don't want this political class - we would like for it all to be consigned to the dustbin of history"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyq7WRr_GPg&feature=player_embedded
..and I wonder where we are headed
Obviously somewhere along the line in your career or maybe before you started, you developed a heart condition. A heart condition that you just don’t have the strength of heart to stand up against the oppressors that victimize people in the city, that you in fact live in. I for one after a long time doing this job feel sickened by the comments of those of you who anonymously post on the blog blowing the Bill Cozy trumpet and crying out how they will refuse to do there job because of there boss. I am further sickened beyond words that people are using this tragedy as a sounding board to trying to incite other Police Officers not to do anything on the street. Unfortunately in the very near future I will be at the single worst spot any Policeman would ever want to be standing, next in line to give my condolences to the family of a fallen Officer. I will at that time raise my head look into the eyes of this officer’s family and pay my deepest respect. I very much doubt the weak hearted anonymous (do nothing) posters on this blog will be able to do the same. As to the other posts about “taking the gloves off”……, what gloves are you talking about? The gloves that you in fact have put on yourself! The weak hearted have countless excuses for not doing their job but for those of us who have NEVER stopped working, we only have one reason for doing it, That’s our job and we still take the greatest pride in doing it.
Fred Hasenfang A/1/GEU
Frederick.Hasenfang@chicagopolice.org
312 745 4081
6120 S. Racine
Chicago Il 60621
Day off group 65
Currently on days if you want to comment in person, I start at 0930.
11/28/2010 09:50:00 AM
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At least someone gets it, and I am not surprised at who it is. There is more common sense and more intelligence, not to mention guts in this post than in all the others in this thread combined.
I'm proud of you Fred.
And 11/28/2010 o4:48 PM your comment about this officer angling for a spot on the policy group is as insulting as it is wrong.
Who is this Fred guy at 0950am? is he blind to what j-fled has been doing to coppers or just delusional?
I had an active part in the Mike Flisk shooting and I can say as a Sgt with lots of years on this job, that alot of young cops just don't get it, I was standing on the street when a channel 7 news truck just drove past and around a bunch of coppers just standing in the street, they just let this news truck drive into an active crime scene, I walked down the street and told them not to let anyone drive thru the street. Plenty of young Sgts. standing around as well and don't seem to have the skills or maybe just ambition to challenge anyone. We lead by example as they say, and on that note we are being led by a gaggle of goofs as exempts on this job. No body has the talent to lead!!! As bad as people talk about Leo Schmitz he took great initiatives and organized cops to get rolling. Did not see Ernie Brown once, Peterson is a pompous ASSHOLE too. Not one car should be up as a one man unit after daylight.
hey fred it seems to me that you should be squeezing your gang informants at this time and NOT wasting your time chastizing fellow cops on this site- A FRICKEN COPS MURDER NEEDS TO BE SOLVED
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
“The Box Chevy Phantom said...
Heh...
Any copper "squeezing" anything in this current era will be given a long, bumpy and painful ride on the "j-fled special" with stops at the following points of interest.
376.
Corp. Counsel.
MCC.
Club Fed and other attractions.”
Obviously somewhere along the line in your career or maybe before you started, you developed a heart condition. A heart condition that you just don’t have the strength of heart to stand up against the oppressors that victimize people in the city, that you in fact live in. I for one after a long time doing this job feel sickened by the comments of those of you who anonymously post on the blog blowing the Bill Cozy trumpet and crying out how they will refuse to do there job because of there boss. I am further sickened beyond words that people are using this tragedy as a sounding board to trying to incite other Police Officers not to do anything on the street. Unfortunately in the very near future I will be at the single worst spot any Policeman would ever want to be standing, next in line to give my condolences to the family of a fallen Officer. I will at that time raise my head look into the eyes of this officer’s family and pay my deepest respect. I very much doubt the weak hearted anonymous (do nothing) posters on this blog will be able to do the same. As to the other posts about “taking the gloves off”……, what gloves are you talking about? The gloves that you in fact have put on yourself! The weak hearted have countless excuses for not doing their job but for those of us who have NEVER stopped working, we only have one reason for doing it, That’s our job and we still take the greatest pride in doing it.
Fred Hasenfang A/1/GEU
Frederick.Hasenfang@chicagopolice.org
312 745 4081
6120 S. Racine
Chicago Il 60621
Day off group 65
Currently on days if you want to comment in person, I start at 0930.
Not quite sure what you are advocating here. Although we are all sick to death about the loss of one of our brothers there is nothing we can do to change the way the CPD is now. Do you think we can just go "kick some ass" and then use this tragedy as a defense? Sure, that would be great, but in the real world it doesn't work that way. What J-Fled did to Cozzi was his opening statement to all of us and it got noticed. You should direct your rant at the Mayor and leadership of the CPD who took away the morale and manpower. Myself and the others I work with still do our jobs everyday, but no one could have prevented this tragedy. I'm sure you wouldn't have posted your name if you mentioned the brass or mayor who are the real problem with the job. Good luck with your motovational speaches and getting yourself noticed.
No one loved this job more than me.
I looked forward to going to work and locking up the bad guys.
I guess it is easy for one to say that people are choosing not to work due to the lack of heart or whatever. The bottom line is until you get royally screwed, you do not know...
I worked,I locked up the bad guys/gals on the daily basis. Then came a carefully put together beef by slime (to include gang bangers and lawyers), and you are placed in the penalty box and job in limboland!
So guys/gals who are pointing fingers and name calling those who voice their opinion about working and being scared due to potential for lawsuits, lack of support from city, etc, PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND!
"Fred Hasenfang A/1/GEU
Frederick.Hasenfang@chicagopolice.org
312 745 4081
6120 S. Racine
Chicago Il 60621
Day off group 65
Currently on days if you want to comment in person, I start at 0930.
11/28/2010 09:50:00 AM"
hey, freddie, if you really wanted to '...stand up against the oppressors that victimize people in the city...', you'd:
1. never post your true intentions on a blog
2. know that those true intentions cannot be acted on via official channels
3. be taking care of business in the only effective ways that business can be taken care of these days
4. be working 2nd watch only to have your nights free to 'take care of business'
5. be taking care of business in the only way business can be effectively taken care of, as in, as if by magic.
nice try at inciting the troops to make you look good.
sorry if your effort results in another epic failure.
Fred, I know you're a worker, I have worked with you.
I admire your work ethic, and like you, I did lay down on the job these past three years.
I just work smarter, as I am sure you do, and COUNTLESS others do.
I am disappointed in your post, it seems that you're trying to call out someone or somebody and then challenging that someone or somebody to meet you, for what?
Your cutting off the nose to spite the face, and honestly, Fred you're a long way removed from the days of challenging anyone.
I don't know, maybe I read your post incorrectly, and if that is the case I do apologize. I just think you went about this in the wrong way Fred, and you're better than that, and now many will look at you as a fool, or even worse, a grandstander.
Let us all just focus on the Flisk family, and our family in Blue, and stop the bickering about the job for a few days.
The squeeze lasted all of 1 day.
Why was MSF detailed to 008 Sunday night?
Was the homicide of some gangbanger near Marquette Park more important that finding out who killed one our own?
7th District 2nd Watch said...
Fred, I know you're a worker, I have worked with you.
I admire your work ethic, and like you, I did lay down on the job these past three years.
I just work smarter, as I am sure you do, and COUNTLESS others do.
I am disappointed in your post, it seems that you're trying to call out someone or somebody and then challenging that someone or somebody to meet you, for what?
Your cutting off the nose to spite the face, and honestly, Fred you're a long way removed from the days of challenging anyone.
I don't know, maybe I read your post incorrectly, and if that is the case I do apologize. I just think you went about this in the wrong way Fred, and you're better than that, and now many will look at you as a fool, or even worse, a grandstander.
Let us all just focus on the Flisk family, and our family in Blue, and stop the bickering about the job for a few days.
11/29/2010 07:29:00 AM
A "fool and a grandstander" is exactly what people will now think. What do you want out of your post Fred?(Besides the bosses noticing you.) Did you want to slap a copper around for telling you he doesn't work as hard as he used too? Very very silly. Posting your name asking fellow coppers to come see you doesn't take balls. Lets see you post your name calling out the leadership. You never will! Gutless!
Anonymous said...
"Fred Hasenfang A/1/GEU
Frederick.Hasenfang@chicagopolice.org
312 745 4081
6120 S. Racine
Chicago Il 60621
Day off group 65
Currently on days if you want to comment in person, I start at 0930.
11/28/2010 09:50:00 AM"
Now known as a first class CLOWN!!!
We have much bigger fish to fry, guys.
I spoke to Fred Hasenfang (9:50 AM) and my main man, "Box Chevy Phantom" (BCP) this morning. Obviously, since BCP is an active P.O. (and a damn good one at that), he wisely conceals his identity when criticizing the abysmal lack of leadership in this clusterfuck that is the utterly demoralized CPD.
In the words of "our fearless leader", let's "knock it off".
As a close friend of the Flisk family and having worked with Mike as well as canvassing after his murder, Fred is particularly distraught with emotion. This is understandable.
Knowing BCP and after speaking with both, assume that both are outstanding and well-respected police officers who would be among the first to respond to your Ten-1. Indeed, it would not surprise me that as partners and under pre J-Fled circumstances, this duo might well be the scourge of Part I felons in the hellholes of Chicago.
BCP, Fred and I all agree that the imprisonment of Bill Cozzi may well be J-Fled's defining moment.
Just a misunderstanding, squad. Put us clear with a 19-Paul. Let's go to lunch.
In regards to the post by Fred Hasenfang,
I think many missed the point what he was trying to get across. I think that "being the police" doesn't mean going out and kicking ass, mf ing people and putting cases on people or in anyway violating the law to get a job done. All of us live here. Our families live here. To give this City over to the scum that tries to take it from us because some coppers don't like how a boss handled a situation or because a Mayor doesn't support us is bullshit. You can be a proactive police officer and use the tools we have to get a job done. Stop a car, search a suspended driver, impound the car. It really isn't hard. Yes the city gets the money but the scum takes a hit and maybe if it happens enough the point will get across. And to let these assholes talk down to you is a crock of shit. If they challenge you and you back down they'll just escalate next time. Take a stand and don't be afraid to put some jackhole in jail even if it is only for a few hours. I don't know about most of you but I've had shitty jobs before that paid half of what I get now. To me this job is pretty good especially in today's economy. Take a stand and show some pride. Don't do it for the bosses or Daley. Do it because this is your community and you want your family to feel safe.
I still love this job and the people of the department. What just pisses me off to no end is that police officers who are damn good, we still have many, cannot do their jobs. I have not been warm and fuzzy on some calls, but I'll be damned if I step over the line if there is any chance there are witnesses or cameras. We are a great police department still, but have been castrated. Unfortunately, many of the top brass, press and liberal fucks are against us. The only thing we can do now is realize we are all targets. Make sure you always have backup. Make sure if you are close to another coppers call you respond. No job is safe anymore. No one can be trusted anymore. Do the job you feel you want to do, but NEVER LET ANY PO GO INTO ANY JOB ALONE. We may be jaded and tired of the bullshit that has been crammed up our ass and down our throat, but never turn a blind eye to another copper. We are the only ones there to watch each others back. I don't care if you blow off every job, but never turn your back on each other. When that happens we are truly fucked. I will do my job, but the days of kicking ass and taking names are over. But if I hear any copper going to a call alone I will be right there for them. If you want to be a kick ass thats your personal right. I am not going to fault anyone one way or the other. But for God's sake, watch out for each other no matter what. 9 dead coppers, 8 by gunfire. Over what besides bullshit.
2:04 pm
Northside
If the job was even half legit, I think you would make a great supt.
Anonymous said...
"Fred Hasenfang A/1/GEU
Frederick.Hasenfang@chicagopolice.org
312 745 4081
6120 S. Racine
Chicago Il 60621
Day off group 65
Currently on days if you want to comment in person, I start at 0930.
11/28/2010 09:50:00 AM"
Now known as a first class CLOWN!!!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion which is what makes blogs like this so grand. People deal with situations each in their individual way, your opinion is noted and now a matter of record. Now go back to watching movies and sleeping while on duty officer.
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