Be Very Aware
Even headed home off-duty:
- Off Topic but Important,
This could have been a repeat of an incident some time ago in the 10th District. An MSF cop on his way home from Homan Square after 0300 finds himself followed in his car by some gang bangers out to do some damage.
Only this time the Dispatchers and everyone else were on the ball.
Offenders in custody. In previous incidents shots were exchanged and officer went to station to get help.
These assholes know the districts are low in manpower and the "special units" are all gone at 3AM. So that is when they go hunting, sometimes they get other gangbangers, sometimes they get a couple of Irish students walking home and sometimes they confront a ODPO.
Stay safe, be aware when you go to and from work, carry your gun and a lot of ammo. Have a good cell phone with 9-1-1 on voice dial and the local district desks. Make sure your car is in good shape and always wear your seat belt and think about wearing body armor to and from work.
No hint that off-duty cops are being specifically targeted, but headed home that late, the odds are a bit against finding someone up to anything good. Watch yourselves.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
52 Comments:
Scrape off all of those fucking I'm the police stickers and medallions off your car please. No one cares that you are the police.
That's why when I get pulled over at night and the cop asks me why did you blow that red light or ISP asks why u doing 90mph. I say just incase someone is following me I will know and will be ready.
If you're in fear for your life, don't hesitate to pull that trigger!!
But a great response by midnights in 010. A few TRR's later, those two bunnies were regretting fucking with the pinche policia!!
Be careful and always aware of your surroundings. Carry a backup gun on duty and for Gods sake please carry at least one gun off duty! I do not want to see POs being victimized.
in mexico the police wear ski masks not because they are engaged in wrongdoing but because the bad guys will learn their identity and target them and their families.
And everyone thought I was crazy when I said those tattoos were a bad idea.
Stay safe officers, watch out for yourself and for each other. Back in the days we didn't have to even think about this type of stuff. Now, the work environment is even worse and all of you present officers have a lot to worry about (i.e. getting into physical altercations, getting sued, getting fucked by a white shirt, etc...). Stay safe, watch out for yourself and each other. We are all we have.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
in mexico the police wear ski masks not because they are engaged in wrongdoing but because the bad guys will learn their identity and target them and their families.
12/27/2010 04:57:00 AM
I have seen that in news clips. Police officers along Texas are being targetted too. On America's side of the border btw. I hope this trend doesn't continue.
>>>Anonymous said...
That's why when I get pulled over at night and the cop asks me why did you blow that red light or ISP asks why u doing 90mph. I say just incase someone is following me I will know and will be ready.
12/27/2010 12:28:00 AM<<<
BULLSHIT!
I have pulled over coppers doing 60+ down the street with no seat belt on their way to who knows where.
They pull out the star and I-D and I pull out my "R. Lee Ermy" voice and let'em have it.
"Did you work all night just to die on the way home!
"That piece of tin may get you out of a ticket but it don't keep you damn fool head from going through the windshield! It doesn't keep some Shyster lawyer from taking everything you ever earned and giving it to somebody who never earned a dime in their life!"
Stay safe, I could go on but somehow typing this doesn't do the performance justice.
The first poster is right on! My first year or two I had them and then once I got a new car I never put them on again and I don't wear cpd clothing either. This isn't college or your favorite sports team, it's work. I always think it's funny when I see guys covering up their uniforms and then get into their fop covered cars with the "ILOKEMUP" plates. I'm not saying this was the case here, but just use a little bit of commonsense.
I removed all FOP insignia from my car 5 years ago. I park carefully and don't want to be targeted.
Many of the gang bangers sport the FOP crap. Not for me.
Homan Square is no secret but having criminals come down to ERPS to pick up their property is one of the biggest jokes/blunders in CPD history.
How many CD units are out of there where dude may see people he shouldn't.
ERPS should be at city hall, that way the criminals can be close to their own kind.
Bring it on bitches. I'm sick of paying for your section 8 cribs, breakfast/lunch for your offspring at public school, and your gov't cell phone. Oh did I forget you also get SSI because you are a drunk that got addicted to drugs and can't read...I'm just begining and I'm at least pretty cheerful because it's Christmas.
I get off at 530am, drive with the gun in the passenger seat next to me. Nice easy access
The more I read this shit the more I make sure to carry off-duty! Punks like this need to be assassinated plane and simple!
Gotta agree with you there, 6:13am. If you MUST have a tatoo, get it someplace that won't be visible when you wear the uniform, including your SUMMER one!
The first poster of this thread is correct also. Ditch the medallions and stickers. I've never had them on my personal vehicles, not even on my kid's cars, and I never will. The less the public knows about you off duty, the safer it is for YOU. If you must pull a pistol and announce your office off duty, don't let anyone know you're the police until it is absolutely necessary to do so. Make sure your off duty hardware is concealed off duty (and if you're going to carry a gun OD, cuffs are a must too!). When leaving your place of assignment, don't take the same route home every night. Change it up some kind of way, even getting off the expressway an exit or two before or past the one you would take directly. Drive around your neighborhood a couple of times or so before going home; you might see something that needs to be called in immediately.
No one is going to protect your neighborhood and your neighbors/family better than YOU.
those two should have gotten a case of lead poisoning
body armour to and from work??? thats the wackiest thing ive ever heard.
in mexico the police wear ski masks
So do half the guys in Narcotics, when executing warrants. It's only a matter of time before that shit goes really bad on them. Mark my words: One day, Joe Dopedealer's gonna look out of his window just in time to see masked men with guns running up to his door. Joe's response will be the same as any other armed person in that position: Let a few rounds fly through the door. Since most teams don't use a bullet proof sheilds during warrant execution, you see how this could go.
But a great response by midnights in 010. A few TRR's later, those two bunnies were regretting fucking with the pinche policia!!
010 has always been good for backup. No matter what time of day. If you have to get into some off-duty shit, trust me, you want it to be in 010.
Ditch the fucking FOP stickers already, I took mine off seven years ago and nothing has changed other than the fact that I'm not advertising that I'm the police. The private ticket writers don't care if you're the police and are going to ticket you one way or the other.
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
And everyone thought I was crazy when I said those tattoos were a bad idea.
12/27/2010 06:13:00 AM
Good forum to make fun dick
As someone who is familier with this incident all I have to say is LEARN your use of force policy and don't be afraid to use it!! When the bats and golf clubs come out, so should the gun and please remember, you DO NOT have to say, "freeze police" or any other bullshit like that. They pull a bat, you pull the trigger! Stay safe and back each other up fuck the backlogs cause we are all we have!! Oh and will everyboby please shitcan those piece of shit .380's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The novelty of having an FOP medallion on my car wore off shortly after my probationary period ended! That was 15 years ago.
That's why when I get pulled over at night and the cop asks me why did you blow that red light or ISP asks why u doing 90mph. I say just incase someone is following me I will know and will be ready.
thats why your a rubber... dont pass the police and dont drive like a jerk on the way home from work.. its not incase someone is following you its because your think your a badass because your a cop. When i drive home from work i never pass a marked squad car and drive like i should..sometimes i get stopped but always apologize and admit i was wrong... some of you guys who just throw the button out the window and give the guy pullin you over a hard time need to have some respect..what if a suburban cop did that to one of us, im sure we would be pissed, i know i would
Hair Gels, Recruits, etc; take the FOP stickrs, checkerboard hatbands, etc off your cars. You pnly give youtselves away as a rookie cop and therefore not ruthless enough to handle a hasty ambush by gangbangets wjo spot you
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Scrape off all of those fucking I'm the police stickers and medallions off your car please. No one cares that you are the police.
12/27/2010 12:12:00 AM
Agreed. They will actually get you into more than they will get you out of.
Scrape off all of those fucking I'm the police stickers and medallions off your car please. No one cares that you are the police.
Good luck making some PO's understand that. They just love covering their cars in that shit. Then again, these are the same brilliant parents who get "My Daddy's A Police Officer" tee shirts for their kids. Sheer genius!
one of my dreams is for some of the local talent to follow me home for a little party in front of the crib--- i am ready and they will be in some serious pain if not dead-----
BTW, don't forget about the officer's personal vehicles that were vandalized outside TRU, while they were working Safe City.
Scrape off all of those fucking I'm the police stickers and medallions off your car please. No one cares that you are the police.
I agree. Putting those stickers are your car is like telling the scum of the earth......your the police and go ahead and follow me home so you can see where I live and come back sometime and break in and steal my weapon.
I cut the grass with a pistol in my pocket and most of the time I have a pistol on my hip in the house. What good is your pistol in that damn safe, where you can't get to it? You never know what might happen.
8.34am...You Are A ROYAL ASSHOLE.
Get off your high horse and stop getting off giving your fellow officers "the lecture"
You're just pissed off you had to get out of the car and not get a mover out of the deal.
GFY
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Scrape off all of those fucking I'm the police stickers and medallions off your car please. No one cares that you are the police.
I agree. Putting those stickers are your car is like telling the scum of the earth......your the police and go ahead and follow me home so you can see where I live and come back sometime and break in and steal my weapon.
12/27/2010 07:40:00 PM
I agree. The only thing I have on my car and my wife's is a city sticker. There is no perk to advertising we are the police. The sticker gets you nothing, but possible trouble. I suppose many years ago we got parking perks, but not anymore, so there is no need for stickers.
@ 8:34am
If you ever tried to give me your R. Lee Ermey, I would unscrew your head and shit down your neck you jagoff.
You have the balls to lecture a P/O but you don't have the balls to lecture a dope dealer driving on a suspended D/L.
You're a total pussy.
Ok, I have to ask — what neighborhood do some of you guys live in?
Jesus Christ, I mean — you HAVE TO wear your gun while cutting the grass?
WTF Gus - MOVE!
If your car payment is more than your mortgage — you live in the ghetto.
I have never heard such shit. Do you really live where it is that bad? Leaving 3, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 15 or 25, yeah they are all shit holes, but in your own area you need a gun? What to do....?
Move!
Christ, one of you is on here saying how your strapped up to take out the fucking garbage!
And do not start with the "it is all around you" stuff, because it is not on my block, or the block over, or the next one, etc, etc, etc.
I guess I was dumb to pay for property value and not some 22's on my Escalade....Dawg.
Oh and will everyboby please shitcan those piece of shit .380's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why? a .380 is better than nothing. When a larger pistol is not practical, it beats not having a pistol at all.
I worked at 007 when the Dan Ryan was under construction and I lived on the North edge of 024. Many...many nights I would take sode streets home, only to see the very same cars going to 007 North (Bryn Mawr/Sheridan). It's un-nerving to see this on a regular basis. Be armed, be aware, and be proactive. I always wore my body armor until around bridgeport or so and then peeled it off. I still wear body armor the whole way to work. Ridiculous? How about PREPARED?!
i always carry a weapon when im off duty, either my sig sauer p229 or my kahr arms p380. never know who you might run into. not real sure if im going to start wearing the vest but may be good advice.
Approving the .380 is one of the worst ideas this department ever came up with. It gives those that are stupid enough to buy one the FALSE sense of security in that they think they are armed well enough to defend themselves. The truth of the matter is that they are not. The .380 is not even a sub caliber round. Those that study ballistics now realize that the single most important factor for a self defense round outside of shot placement is penetration. The ability of any given round to acheive maximun penetration is even more important than caliber provided the caliber you carry is a viable caliber such as 9mm,.38 special,357Sig,40 S&W or 45 acp. A quality self defense round should have the ability to penetrate in ballistic geleatin at least 12 inches. The BEST .380 round is only capable of penetrating 7 to 8 inches. You are better off with a five shot Jframe snubby. Dump the .380. If you are going to carry a gun, carry one that is capable of saving your life. A .380 is not that gun. If your serious about carrying a gun then learn how to carry a gun. There is not one single gun that is designed for self defense that cannot be carried hidden.
AM
Anonymous said...
Oh and will everyboby please shitcan those piece of shit .380's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why? a .380 is better than nothing. When a larger pistol is not practical, it beats not having a pistol at all.
12/28/2010 01:45:00 AM
Yes, its underpowered but it fits in your pants pocket while mowing the lawn that your kid did not do.
The Kahr .380 has real sights, a good trigger and therefore twice the range of the other cheap ones. Also note that bad ass high performance ammo (.380) is sold by Corbon and Buffalo Bore. Google is your friend !
Anonymous said...
I get off at 530am, drive with the gun in the passenger seat next to me. Nice easy access
12/27/2010 09:25:00 AM
Keep it in the holster. If you hit the brakes hard, that gun will hit the floor and slid up under the dash. If you pull a fast hard left, it will end up in between the passenger seat and the door.
In the unsnapped holster is as far away as you want it to be. I keep a Surefire M4 Millenium series flashlight in my car. Its as bright as the spotlight on a squad
car. Shithead will be too blind to follow me or shoot at and hit anything.
Ok, I have to ask — what neighborhood do some of you guys live in?
Jesus Christ, I mean — you HAVE TO wear your gun while cutting the grass?
WTF Gus - MOVE!
If your car payment is more than your mortgage — you live in the ghetto.
I have never heard such shit. Do you really live where it is that bad? Leaving 3, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 15 or 25, yeah they are all shit holes, but in your own area you need a gun? What to do....?
Move!
Christ, one of you is on here saying how your strapped up to take out the fucking garbage!
And do not start with the "it is all around you" stuff, because it is not on my block, or the block over, or the next one, etc, etc, etc.
I guess I was dumb to pay for property value and not some 22's on my Escalade....Dawg.
12/28/2010 12:13:00 AM
Cop on disability got robbed at gunpoint a couple years back. he was taking out the trash. he lives in the area of irving park & laramie. you cant blame them for carrying while taking out the trash. shit happens.
Police fatalities jump 37 percent in 2010
'There is a more cold-blooded, brazen criminal element prowling the streets of America today'
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40828227/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts
I get off at 530am, drive with the gun in the passenger seat next to me. Nice easy access
12/27/2010 09:25:00 AM
Until they ram you and it winds up on the floor or out of reach. One of the few times a shoulder holster is a good option is for when you're seated in a vehicle. Belly bands are OK too.
There is nothing on my vehicle that says I'm the police. Don't drive to/from work in full uniform either. I've worked in a shit district for a long time now, and still see people do this constantly. You're just putting a bullseye on yourself! I'm not saying this copper had anything on his/her vehicle, or drove in uniform, or did anything wrong by the way. Even if he/she did, it still doesn't warrant these shitheads following him/her home. The less people that know you're the police these days the better. That's just the way it is now. Once someone finds out you're the police, you attract attention to yourself, then people wait for you to make the smallest mistake so they can get you in trouble or bait you into a situation that forces you to beat the shit out of them, and then get you in more trouble. And driving through the ghetto with FOP stickers, checkered hat band, and some vanity plate that has a police term on it is not always the best idea. If the last few years aren't proof enough, these sub-human savages don't give a shit who we are. Just be careful and be smart. Good job by everyone, glad the officer is safe and the animals are in their cage. Stay safe out there.
"These assholes know the districts are low in manpower and the "special units" are all gone at 3AM. So that is when they go hunting, sometimes they get other gangbangers, sometimes they get a couple of Irish students walking home and sometimes they confront a ODPO."
They should be granted the opportunity to stumble into the "Flying Squad;" a touring car six deep with old coppers wielding Thompsons and .45s. Cigars come with the assignment, natch.
I see the line already forming on the left...
...a compact or subcompact semi auto in 9mm, .40 s&w or .45 acp... Of course our personal preferrence in semi-auto is .45 acp.
+p jhp ammo!
for the more tactically inclined with semi autos, keep a magazine of +p ball ammo handy... Especially when you're confronted with vehicle borne assailants.
we swear by s&w .38/.357 bodyguards and centennials loaded with stout .38 specials or "lite" .357 magnum (essentially .38 +p+).
if you just absolutely gotta knock the shit out of something then s&w k/l/n frame or ruger gp loaded with ORIGINAL 1935 FBI SPECIFICATION .357 Magnum. (158gr at @ 1525 to nearly 1600 fps or the 125gr loads at nearly 1700 fps) Beware! These loads ARE ear-splitters and not for the faint of heart but the vehicle borne shit-head is doomed & deader than a can of king oscar sardines. The 158 CAN go door through door and all occupants in between of a ghetto cruiser, which was the original intent of the .357 Magnum anyway.
Sigh... Oh for the days of The Police putting a mean and powerful hurt on roving bands of predatory mad dogs like they did during that era.
Be aware of the "backstop" though!
If we were ever allowed to load with .357 ammo, we would take up our six shooter again.
Be prepared to tear up your car!
Be prepared to run muthafuckahs over with your car!
Don't bother jaw-jacking with these fools! It's a distractor... Don't get caught talkin' when you should be killin'!
Watch the hands! Watch the hands! Watch the hands!
Dead "local talent" can't get c/r numbers, sue or cut a deal with the feds for a coppers scalp on perjured testimony!
Longing to see the day when ALL the right people are swinging on the same gallows THEY joyously built to swing coppers from.
Only then will we believe in Justice again...
The only justice we believe in now is returning to the homestead & family at the end of the tour, alive and with no more holes than what we started off with...
If that means knocking a nickel sized tunnel through the cocked sky-piece of an honor student & proud democratic voter or three, then so be it...
12/28/2010 08:53:00 PM
Yes indeed! Ye Olde & Ancient Police had the answer and cure for rampant shitheadism...
Fuck with The Police, you AND your friends will die. The citizens even said "Verily and Amen" to this. Citizens were made of harder stuff back then.
Now the typical citizen is a wet-eyed, limp wristed, thug-hugging, "even the losers should get a trophy" ninny with NO IDEA what's going on out here.
Violence by The Police in the name of The Law makes liberals break out in hives.
Violence by the shitheads begs a plea for understanding and the commissioning of another useless study (lib yellow-pinky academic welfare) that's funded for years until they finally get the results they want... Ya dopes! Hopefully some of you will be trying to pry "Dude's" jaws from your tender asses.
We admire the cut of the original poster's jib though...
Camel hair overcoats.
Fedoras.
Shiny Wing-Tip shoes with the "cat paw" soles.
Yes... Cadillac or Chrysler touring car. Gotta have that V-12 or V-16 power.
A siren that REALLY SAID "GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY!" Not this European imported inspector clueseau/pink panther shit we have now.
Tommy Guns... High cyclic rate of course.
Colt pistols in .45 acp or .38 super.
At least one of "da boys" has a Winchester Model 97 Trench Gun...
At least one other has a cut-down Browning Automatic Rifle...
Cigars included?
Where do we sign up for this again??
>>>To :Anonymous said...
@ 8:34am
If you ever tried to give me your R. Lee Ermey, I would unscrew your head and shit down your neck you jagoff.
You have the balls to lecture a P/O but you don't have the balls to lecture a dope dealer driving on a suspended D/L.
You're a total pussy.
12/28/2010 12:01:00 AM"
and
>>> "Anonymous said...
8.34am...You Are A ROYAL ASSHOLE.
Get off your high horse and stop getting off giving your fellow officers "the lecture"
You're just pissed off you had to get out of the car and not get a mover out of the deal.
GFY
12/27/2010 10:29:00 PM"
>>>You don't know me, but I'll give you a hint. Why the header of ">>>"? Think about it, I have been on the job for almost thirty years and white shirt for more than half that time and never got a "merit promotion". It wasn't getting out of the car and missing a mover that pissed me off it was reliving the nightmares of cops in traffic accidents.
It was all the unnecessary stupid shit that put them in hospitals or worse. It was having to call their units, seeing their families, setting up details, and oh brother, the damn reports. That the stuff that makes me mad.
And now with Jody here, think about it.
Stay safe, so don't pull an attitude on me here. No one I ever pulled over ever did; they knew they were wrong and I think all those guys are still alive today. Slow down. Don't feed the lawyers.
(P.S. I never wrote a copper a ticket in my career, including a Wisconsin Trooper. Although his reasonable attitude got him reasonably toned down lecture.)
"Where do we sign up for this again??
12/29/2010 11:23:00 AM"
when time travel becomes a reality, you'll know where and how much.
save your pennies.
What was that story I dimly remember, about some character with a gun robbing Woolworth's stores or something?
No Predictive Analysis Unit, no online crime maps and studies and statistics; just a couple of detectives who started watching Woolworth's stores in what seemed to be the appropriate general area.
One day, paydirt. Character walks out the front door with a bag of money in one hand and a gun in the other -- and gets cut in half by a Thompson.
Then -- "Stop! Police!"
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