Natural Selection Thwarted
Once again, tens of man hours along with thousands of real dollars are wasted while putting real human lives at risk:
It was a lonely scene — a freezing coyote, stranded on a tiny slab of ice, adrift in Lake Michigan.
Lonely — except for the news helicopters circling overhead, the Fire Department boat dispatched to rescue the wayward animal and the crowds gathered on the shore.
The 3-year-old female got into the fix Friday morning on the ice off Fullerton Avenue. At one point, the coyote jumped into the water, only to retreat to the chunk of ice keeping her afloat.
A dumb coyote isn't worth a single fire fighter's life or a single hour of operation of a fire boat. We're surprised they didn't launch Air-One for this debacle but we'd still say it wasn't worth the operation or risk to police officer's lives either.
There's a reason that you don't see certain behaviors in the animal kingdom - stupidity is rarely rewarded. Mother Nature is a cruel teacher. And risking real human lives to interfere is a trade-off we've never understood.
UPDATE: To all the posters calling us "animal hater" and other crap, how would you feel if some firefighter, coast guard member or helicopter operator ended up in the water and unrecoverable? Stuff like this comes down to evaluating the value of a human life versus an animal that routinely hunts on or near the water in all sorts of weather. Sorry, but we pick the human, each and every time.
There's a reason that you don't see certain behaviors in the animal kingdom - stupidity is rarely rewarded. Mother Nature is a cruel teacher. And risking real human lives to interfere is a trade-off we've never understood.
UPDATE: To all the posters calling us "animal hater" and other crap, how would you feel if some firefighter, coast guard member or helicopter operator ended up in the water and unrecoverable? Stuff like this comes down to evaluating the value of a human life versus an animal that routinely hunts on or near the water in all sorts of weather. Sorry, but we pick the human, each and every time.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
70 Comments:
There's a reason that you don't see certain behaviors in the animal kingdom - stupidity is rarely rewarded. Mother Nature is a cruel teacher
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Ah, but a liberal democrat has a heart as big as the contents of your wallet! There is no longer ANY need for suffering! No need to work to feed, clothe and house you and yours! The uber-generous liberal will just take the money from you to support professional loafers. So kiddies, just do as you please, someone will bail you out of all your dumb decisions.
I'll have to disagree this time. They are needed to take care of all those rabbits in the big parks downtown
I know coyotes, sir. And you are no coyote!
Sorry, but I don't agree with you on this one. Saying the Police Officers or Firemen were risking their lives is a bit of a stretch. Not that I'm a tree hugger, but I think a lot of us Police would've helped out in a minute. At least I would have. Bash away.....
For once SCC I have to disagree. I would much rather spend the cities assests on rescueing a coyote than on flooding the fucking west and south sides with police. Besides its a good training exercise. Love you SCC.
Obviously you're not an animal lover.
We are all complaining about all the special u it's not doing anything...and here they are, not only honing skills, interacting with other agencies and the public..they are actually acting like they are e joying it. Look at all of us.I thought very cute. Good job guys! As my mother would have said you would cry with a loaf of bread under your arms.
They should have just humanely killed the thing with a .223 round. On second thought, maybe the rescue was good training...
SCC,
Some dopey ass kissing fireman assisned to the boats / dive team was interviewed for the news story i heard on the radio. He stated something to the fact that they (the fire dept) dont normally engage in such a risky operation as they arent trained to deal with wild animals. He then went on to say that they only participated in the endeavor because "ANIMAL CONTROL WAS ON THE SCENE SO QUICKLY", and that animal control was trained on how to deal with wild animals calling it a joint endeavor. In twenty years I've called for animal control at least a hundred times and NEVER had them respond to a request for there assistance. I've worked every shift and all I ever hear from a dispatcher is "We'll notify them, They dont start till..., and They are off till... Animal control is about as useless and speedy as DCFS when it comes to a notification or response. But at least I can get a name from animal control for the notification section of my report when I call.
"Once again, tens of man hours along with thousands of real dollars are wasted while putting real human lives at risk."
Yeah, but it reinforces the media stereotype that firefighters, even when traveling by boat, are heroes.
Cops? No. They're just a bunch of trigger-happy, fist-fighting drunks.
Ten years ago Marine Unit officers rescued a dog off the ice of the frozen Chicago River at the locks. The officer who got the closest to do the rescue got bitten up and went IOD.
But the Marine Unit got great publicity for weeks and the unit was sent pictures from school kids and letters galore.
Now Field Marshall Von Georgas has them mostly detailed out for the winter. Let CFD get the publicity and make the rescues and soon he will decide we don't need a Marine Unit.
There are always coyotes trapped on ice chunks and the breakwall due to freeze thaw. There are families living for generations out at the filtration plant. It's nature's way.
Okay, SCC, you're probably 100% correct. Still, I'm glad the animal was rescued. Mother Nature is cruel, but we humans can choose to be compassionate stewards.
Better to save a coyote than some of the other animals that run on these streets... Sorry SCC have to disagree with you on this one.
you save animals everyday on the job, at least this one wont sue you for your assistance.
It's good training. Everything is already paid for. It's not like the firemen wouldn't have got paid or they had to buy the boat. The military does things all the time that fall outside the scope of operational needs. You can't duplicate or out-plan spontaneous events. Every one of those municipal employees is better at their job today because of yesterday.
SCC said: A dumb coyote isn't worth a single firefighter's life or a single hour of operation of a fire boat...????
I am shocked.
I was going to comment about this yesterday on SCC and really thank the CFD for helping a poor creature. That was a real highlight seeing that on the WGN News at Noon. A REAL highlight.
With all the senseless violence going on in the city, seeing them help a poor animal was a great thing. To me, money well-spent and I think if they asked for donations to pay for the fuel to get out to him - there would be a ton of money flowing in.
For you to question that SCC is abominable. The coyote helps keep the rat population down in the city.
If anything, you should look at the coyote as nature's police taking care of the four-legged rats while CPD takes care of the two-legged rats.
If anything, the POLICE should adopt it.
I would rather see them help the coyote, then see all the money wasted in the ghetto. At least the coyote is productive and has a job.
Great Job CFD. CPD should not be jealous that they got some good press. Go help the coyotes. They are God's K9 unit.
Animal Control on the scene so quickly ? ? ? ? LOL
The guy must have been taking a nap along the lake when this happened. Animal Control Officer = best non-job in the city.
Rather have them use the resources and rescue this kind of aniamal, at least this animal one would expect no thanks or apprecation for risking their lives to save them. Plus no b.s. cr# or law suit either. And this animal may eventually take care and nurture its young and do far less harm to society than some of the two legged kind.
but I think a lot of us Police would've helped out in a minute. At least I would have. Bash away.....
Your absolutely correct. I would definately help! POW! all done!
Coyotes go out onto the ice floes and iced over lakes all the time. They wait for prey to come along the shores, or land, or swim up and that is part of their hunting technique in the winter. This yote seemed to have been scared to come in after it garnered the attention of a whole bunch of humans. Leave 'em alone, they make it back, can swim, if they don't make it back, fish have a tasty meal.
It is very common to see them on the ice along the Great Lakes, usually at night.
um if anyone sees a puma/cougar/mountain lion, please shoot it
civilian
I disagree as well. Name one Chicago Police Officer that has been killed by an animal. You can’t name ONE! But I can name over 500 since 1853, which have been killed by savages. Get your priorities straight as to who you should be saving and protecting.
"We're surprised they didn't launch Air-1 for this"....From the Chicago Breaking News website and this is a direct quote...."As a helicopter hovered overhead, the Victor L. Schlaeger fire boat slowly approached the coyote."
No need to be surprised!!
To those who feel that this was money well spent... put up a few bucks to pay for this crap out of your own pocket and stop spending mine. This was utter BS and a total waste of money... the last time I checked we were a tad short of extra money to toss around trying to save a dumb animal. Come on now... you can love animals but not get crazy stupid about it.
gotta say, its good PR for the fire dept!
I would look out for falling anvils from ACME CO. if I were you SCC...
For once SCC I have to disagree. I would much rather spend the city's assets on rescuing a coyote than on flooding the fucking west and south sides with police. Besides its a good training exercise. Love you SCC.
"I 2nd that emotion"
(With spell check enabled on the original post)
Once again,CFD does a good job,and gets the accolades because CPD Marine Units are dry-docked. Stupid flippin' gold star.
Screw them Coyotes ! I've shot about 15 in the last 10 years and I'll shoot another 15 if I can . Coyotes are no fuckin' good . They will kill your dogs ,cats ect in a heart beat . They are NOT friendly and will take a chunk out of you if they get a chance . So to all you Treehuggers , ASPCA and the rst of you jerks , Fuck Off !!!
After being rescued the coyote refused to press charges against the road runner. Typical!
Ah, the coyote foiled again! Was there a loud MEEP-MEEP and an unidentified cloud of dust seen northbound on the drive after this?
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Anonymous said...
Sorry, but I don't agree with you on this one. Saying the Police Officers or Firemen were risking their lives is a bit of a stretch. Not that I'm a tree hugger, but I think a lot of us Police would've helped out in a minute. At least I would have. Bash away.....
12/18/2010 12:45:00 AM
One well placed 5.56 round and he wouldn't have been standing on the ice anymore and would have saved the taxpayers thousands of wasted dollars!!
One good shot from an M4 would have ended the scene humanly.
Frankly, I would have shot it, end of story. i read this news post yesterday. Now living in the country and seeing the destruction and killing these "furry little DEMONS" do, I plug one every chance I get.
.223 round does a nice job. I call them demons because they when moving in a pack and get a kill, usually a baby deer, MY DUCKS and attacking at my horses their howl sounds like the demons out of Hades.
Most of them carry more disease then a westside whore, have mange and are unhealthy for livestock and humans. They make dens underground where I have dropped the wheels of my tractor in and almost lost a horse when his leg went into the hidden hole. They are a pox on my farm, and I invite anyone down here that wants to have a shoot a coyote day. Best hunt I have been in was with a boom box playing classical music they seem to love it!!! little buggers came out in droves and the shooting fish in a barrel analogy was in play.
And yes I am an animal lover, not a lover of the demon coyotes.
Disagree. What seperates us from the Michael Vicks of the world is our compassion for animals
I disagree with your thoughts SCC. I would attempt to save a 4 legged animal any day of the week. A 2 legged animal, not so much. Everything involves risk, including walking out your door every day. Our occupations involve risks everyday and we are trained accordingly. If I were on scene, I would have stepped up. Saving this animal was the right thing to do. I would rather leave this earth knowing that I did the right thing and I know my family would feel the same.
12:47, those were my thoughts esactly. The 2 legged animal in the ghetto is useless through their own fault.
I DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE. There was no risk, and if we waste money servicing "human zombies", why not help this poor animal. I think any policeman/fireman would go out of his/her way to help an animal, child or senior. They are the ones that need our protection.........NOT BABY'S DADDY'S MOMMA'S NEW BOYFRIEND!
ALSO, great xmass story!
BESIDES, if we stopped encroaching on their habitat, they wouln't be coming to ours!
poor cayote became awared of city politics........SHE DECIDED TO RUN OFF TO ALASKA OR CANADA!
CAN YOU BLAME HER??
Zone: "Fire has returned to quarters"
Copper: what do you mean squad, it's a man down"
Zone: "they say that are not coming"
Copper. "That's nice, I really don't want to go either"
Zone: "it's your call, keep us posted"
Police noted the coyote was heavily intoxicated. They also inventoried a link card and a ziploc baggie with money logo wich contained a white rock like substance suspect crack cocaine.
Darwin theory my ass. Only country in the world that would waste their time on something like this. Fucking bleeding hearts let mother nature take its course.
Have a heart SCC. Who wants to see an animal die in front of you.
Aside from the Northerly Island Bird Hospital -- really! -- and the women with the flashing lights and "BIRD RESCUE IN PROGRESS" signs on their car, there's another woman whom the taxpayers subsidize to go kayaking around all summer with the standard-issue border collie "to prevent seagull depredations on the beaches." Let her paddle out there.
Saving the animal is fine. But what really gets me is that the news leads with this story. The night before a mutt takes two to the chest in Austin and nothing is reported about it.
Obviously you're not an animal lover.
your right, im a human lover, and a picky one at that. your a dork.
Maybe MR at ACC is doing a better job of running that dept than his predecessor? Could be that things do change and ACC today is not what it was 20 yrs ago.
"how would you feel if some firefighter, coast guard member or helicopter operator ended up in the water and unrecoverable?"
SCC, I think it would be appropriate for the firefighters, Coast Guard members and/or helicopter operators to answer that question; not you.
Someone other than SCC made the decision to save the coyote and this entire event has nothing to do with the us.
animal control just kills them anyway......it's a total waste.
saved from drowning to be blue juiced.
WTF ???
Saving the animal is fine. But what really gets me is that the news leads with this story. The night before a mutt takes two to the chest in Austin and nothing is reported about it.
12/18/2010 02:35:00 PM
I take it you work in the ghetto. Now you want to watch the ghetto on TV and read about the ghetto in the paper too. I'm sure much time is spent telling ghetto police stories at the bar too. Can't you get enough of these people? Move over to Central and Madison if it's so great.
I recall a few years back where the CPD and animal control officers spent the better part of an afternoon and evening trying to trap an ol' Wiley that was making one of the breakwaters his home.
Why can't all coyotes be like the one at Quiznos, and just dutifully hop into the cooler and patiently await capture?
we live in Wisconsin, (retired CPD) where it is open season on coyote hunting ALL YEAR LONG. What is wrong with Chicago? Again Chicago is a laughing stock.
They should have just humanely killed the thing with a .223 round. On second thought, maybe the rescue was good training...
and shooting it would have been good training...rifle training!
For the first time, I don't agree with you. I thought it was a nice story and everyone involved did a great job.
I love animals. They don't do to each other what human beings do to each other. There's no way I can watch an animal suffer and not try to help. We have all read stories how animals have saved humans in life threatening situations.
If you're a person who can watch an animal suffer, then you have no soul. Make fun of me, call me what you want, but that's how I feel.
Saving the animal is fine. But what really gets me is that the news leads with this story. The night before a mutt takes two to the chest in Austin and nothing is reported about it.
12/18/2010 02:35:00 PM
2 Legged (Who Cares) or 4 Legged?
scc- are you ever happy?
The update...Animal Control fed the Coyote a litter of puppies they were going to gas. He is healthy now and will be released Monday morning.
saving coyotes and frozen geese is not good training. wild animals have inhabited the region known as chicago for millions of years.let our police and fire personnel save and protect human lives. deploying a fire helicopter or a police boat to a wild animal in distress is unsafe and very dangerous to our first responders. Dear Mr. & Mrs. do gooder, the next time that you make a fucking stupid call regarding a wild animal in distress, think about the lives that are on the line for such a moronic call. your dumb ass may depend on us being there for you in case you fall in the drink! Thank You & privileged to be your public servant.
Anonymous said...
we live in Wisconsin, (retired CPD) where it is open season on coyote hunting ALL YEAR LONG. What is wrong with Chicago? Again Chicago is a laughing stock.
12/18/2010 05:05:00 PM
I saw a poor hungry, wet and trembling junkyard rat shivering in the cold. I felt so sorry for the little vermin. He is one of God's creatures too and deserves a chance to live his life, even if he does spread disease from time to time.
But I did my duty, I called Animal Control and demanded someone come out and feed this rat and give him some shelter. I heard some laughter and then a click. That was yesterday. No one came.
The poor rat is still soooo hungry, I am going to go buy some meat and bread for him, God's misunderstood little creature. It is the least I can do. Then I will have the little rat bites on my hands checked out at a clinic.
Is there any truth to the rumor that Michael Vick wants to adopt the coyote?
Dear City of Chicago, Thanks for saving my sorry dogass. Now I want
citizenship if I hang around a
school or Military building.
Sincerely,Holly.
saving coyotes and frozen geese is not good training. wild animals have inhabited the region known as chicago for millions of years.let our police and fire personnel save and protect human lives. deploying a fire helicopter or a police boat to a wild animal in distress is unsafe and very dangerous to our first responders. Dear Mr. & Mrs. do gooder, the next time that you make a fucking stupid call regarding a wild animal in distress, think about the lives that are on the line for such a moronic call. your dumb ass may depend on us being there for you in case you fall in the drink! Thank You & privileged to be your public servant.
12/19/2010 04:28:00 AM
Your comment is noted sir, just do your job and if anyone of you "city workers" die then I'll buy a nice t-shirt or get drunk at your benefit like all the rest of your "friends" do.
MR at AC is an incompetent hack who thinks that he's still running the large mammal unit at Lincoln Park Zoo.
He's no leader. He's a whiny brat who throws tantrums until he gets what he wants. The morale of the AC inspectors is the same as the CPD. They don't like their leader.
AC puts in a woman as a commissioner who's basically a figurehead. The ops manager, MR in this case, is the one who actually runs things.
The reason why the CPD has a problem with getting a AC officer to respond is they only have a handful of inspectors on each shift, at the most.
All first hand knowledge.
Oh. Coyotes are vermin, plain and simple. Only thing they're good for here in Chicago is thinning out the smaller rodent population. Other than that, they should be shot on sight. Unfortunately the press caught wind of it this time.
For the first time, I don't agree with you. I thought it was a nice story and everyone involved did a great job.
I love animals. They don't do to each other what human beings do to each other. There's no way I can watch an animal suffer and not try to help. We have all read stories how animals have saved humans in life threatening situations.
If you're a person who can watch an animal suffer, then you have no soul. Make fun of me, call me what you want, but that's how I feel.
12/18/2010 06:08:00 PM
ditto. I'm not a tree hugger or a left wing liberal, in fact I'm GOP right winger, but have some humanity for an animal who needs help.
This poor animal doesn't have a federally-funded LINK card, cell phone, section 8 housing, free or subsidized utilities, nor does it have 911 on speed dial because the baby cub doesn't want to go to school today. If you don't have a heart for the animals of this world, then there is something wrong with you. Kudos to the CFD and animal control officer who help this poor stranded creature.
deploying a fire helicopter or a police boat to a wild animal in distress is unsafe and very dangerous to our first responders. Dear Mr. & Mrs. do gooder, the next time that you make a fucking stupid call regarding a wild animal in distress, think about the lives that are on the line for such a moronic call. your dumb ass may depend on us being there for you in case you fall in the drink! Thank You & privileged to be your public servant.
12/19/2010 04:28:00 AM
Public servant? First responder? I'm a cop; maybe you should have joined the boy scouts.
How do we know that the coyote wasn't leading a group of illegals across the pack ice from Canada?
Anonymous said...
Police noted the coyote was heavily intoxicated. They also inventoried a link card and a ziploc baggie with money logo wich contained a white rock like substance suspect crack cocaine.
Darwin theory my ass. Only country in the world that would waste their time on something like this. Fucking bleeding hearts let mother nature take its course.
12/18/2010 01:50:00 PM
How about the death threats received by the 19th District when their officers did their job safeguarding the neighborhood (where Mr Jon Loevy lives!) and shot a wild adult mountain lion. (cougar - four legged)
They dare to threaten police officers protecting their mongrel children from a wild animal. Fucking mongoloid morons.
I love animals. They don't do to each other what human beings do to each other. There's no way I can watch an animal suffer and not try to help. We have all read stories how animals have saved humans in life threatening situations.
Ah, another bleeding heart who learned everything they know about animals from Walt Disney.
Animals do absolutely atrocious things to each other.
A coyote is not Lassie or Fido. It's a wild animal, and highly unlikely to "save you in a life threatening situation".
Agreed. My girlfriend has two cats she loves more, probably, than she loves me. (They're easier to clean up after.) But she doesn't have one of those Pets Inside stickers people put on their front doors to let firefighters know that they should rescue the dog, the cat, the parakeet. She says that she'd never risk a firefighter's life, even for her cats. Me, I'm outside risking a grabber shoveling the driveway while she and the cats sit warm inside. . . ah, priorities.
Your comment is noted sir, just do your job and if anyone of you "city workers" die then I'll buy a nice t-shirt or get drunk at your benefit like all the rest of your "friends" do.
12/19/2010 12:19:00 PM
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You are a fucking liberal fucktard. Stay the hell away from our benefits, we dont need your $10 donation for a t-shirt you don't deserve to wear. I truly couldn't come up with a nicer thing to say!
You'll catch hell no matter what choice you make; if the pros think they can do it with minimal risk to life and limb, I say let them do it because it may work out to everyone's benefit with lots of good PR.
I just hope none of Chicago's Finest pull anything like this:
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2010/12/17/good-samaritans-face-fine-after-rescuing-deer-from-icy-water/
Holly the Coyote was released today in a forested habitat adjacent to a permanent food source in Wheaton, Illinois.
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