HBT Situation South
Gunfire was exchanged between police and would-be robbers before a barricade situation developed late Thursday in a Hegewisch neighborhood discount store.
There are no reported injuries at this time, police said.
Patrol officers and detectives were on scene of the barricade incident at a Family Dollar store in the 13300 block of South Brainard Avenue as of 10:45 p.m., according to Calumet Area detectives.
No word on any resolution at this time. No casualties either.
Labels: shooting
posted by SCC at 1:00 AM
56 Comments:
They are dug in with cases of grape soda and Flamin' Hot Cheetos.
This is bad.
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Mayor debate
Appearantly Chico is Rahm-lite. He wants to negotiate over our pension! Daley stacked the deck and the FLOP bought it hook line and sinker. Get ready for the pain, brothers.
Hopefully, these are the guys that robbed the Family Dollars in Area Five.
I though Family Dollar banned firearms on its premises.
What has become of Hegewisch? It was once a great place to raise a family.
This is the second robbery there in about a month....
what was once a safe haven for city workers quickly turned when the shitheads moved east when the gardens were being rehabbed....
I'd rather have seen the airport built there than watch what the neighborhood has turned into....
All was clear. Nobody home by the time swat arrived, set up shop, got the coand vans (yes plural, patrol had one, detective division had one, swat had one) by the time they made entry the bad guys made good their escape. My suggestion, SORT train more TRU and MSF officers give them a bearcat and the equipment to make immediate entry.
Anonymous said...
What has become of Hegewisch? It was once a great place to raise a family.
2/18/2011 07:59:00 AM
Hopefully your house didn't get a flat on the way to school...or if your from Hogwash....the book learnin place.
I bet 433 was in the north end as usual. The off duty police are policing the hood themselves.
Englewood was a great neighborhood to raise a family in the 1940 , 50 & 60's
we all know what happened
I heard the robbers escaped out back. Good old 004th district.
What has become of Hegewisch? It was once a great place to raise a family.
2/18/2011 07:59:00 AM
Dunno. Ask the Walmart greeter.
Anonymous said...
What has become of Hegewisch? It was once a great place to raise a family.
Uhhh, when? When DuSable was trading animal pelts for salt blocks maybe!
who was that jag-off off-duty copper that went through the perimeter line and try to walk up to the SWAT guys while they were about to enter the store WTF>...
Did SWAT come out and bore him out?
Glad all officers are safe. That being said:
It was amusing to hear the white shirts beat their chests on air.
"If any off-duty officers are on scene, send them away."
Nice to know you aren't really the police 24/7, eh?
And the douche who stated (HBT/SWAT Commander?) that HIS people had the scene and basically "thankyouverymuchwegotitfromherekthxbye"
Sadly ended up being a large waste of time, seeing as how the bad guys got away in all the chaos.
Still hoping the shitheads end up shot at a hospital somewhere. Good job 004 OFFICERS...
We dont have any safe places anymore, Hegewisch, Mt. Greenwood, Garfield Ridge.(Best of the worst) You have to be careful everywhere. All our neighborhoods are surrounded by shit. I stay in Mt. Greenwood and its not much better just doesnt get broadcasted enough.
I couldn't believe we were still in Chicago...it was more like the Star Wars bar.
.....What has become of Hegewisch? It was once a great place to raise a family.....(in 1883).
The community area is named for Adolph Hegewisch, the president of U.S. Rolling Stock Company who hoped to establish “an ideal workingman's community” when he laid out the town along a rail line in 1883, six years before Chicago annexed the town.
One note...a PO in the penalty box in the call back unit got a call from the girlfriend that this numbnuts wanted to "put Hegewisch on the map" by a shooting someone in Mann Park and robbing the Family Dollar. This information was passed along to the 4th District prior to the event. Good police work RK.
This is the problem with the lame ass State of Illinois. Or more specifically, its Legislature. No Concealed Carry means that once these armed robbery crews walk in and pull guns, no one can do shit except the Police or the rare citizen that packs a concealed gun in spite of the law.And then when the Police show up, shithead panics and its HBT time. When will namby pamby Illinois and its candy ass politicians wake up and follow the lead of the 40 plus other States that allow decent people to carry ? Even in ultra liberal California, half of the Countys issue concealed carry permits . The Sheriff is in charge of this and it is a factor in his re-election ! Will it take another Lane Bryant incident for Illinois to wake up ?
Section 8 happened in Hegewisch... Nothing more to say.
Upshot-- "the robbers were able to escape. No one was injured, police said.
"About 8:30 p.m. police responded to a robbery at a Family Dollar store in the 13300 block of South Brainard Avenue, according to police News Affairs Officer Hector Alfaro. Shots were fired at police and police returned fire, he said.
"Police surrounded the building, but about three hours later determined the robbers had fled, Alfaro said. It was not clear how.
"He did not immediately know how many suspects were involved in the incident."
http://www.chicagobreakingnews
.com/news/local/chibrknews
-police-at-barricade-scene
-on-far-south-
side-20110217,0,
3637153.story
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DNA works back the other way, too --
Prison inmate charged in Chicago cold-case murder
By Jason Meisner
Tribune reporter
2:15 p.m. CST, February 8, 2011
"A 59-year-old man already serving life in prison was ordered held without bond today in the 1983 rape and murder of an elderly bookstore owner in Chicago after cold-case detectives matched DNA to him, Cook County prosecutors said.
"Joseph Walker was given the life sentence in Utah for a sexual assault, prosecutors said.
"Authorities said Walker denied murdering Frieda Fenster, 77, [who was]discovered beaten, strangled and raped in the family’s century-old shop, Stein’s Books and Novelty Store, at 526 S. State St., a few days before Christmas in 1983."
http://www.chicagobreakingnews
.com/news/local/chibrknews
-prison-inmate-charged-in
-1983-chicago-cold-case-
murder-20110208,0,4671233
.story?obref=obinsite
I remember Stein's -- a bit of old Chicago, down the strip of south State with the burlesques and junk stores and everything else a real city used to have. I may have a book somewhere with their sticker in it...
Interesting that Borders and Barnes and Noble sited their big stores right in concentrations of small independent bookstores like this and drove a lot of them out of business -- and now Borders is going bankrupt itself...
1983...good work, detectives. At least the family may get a little peace finally, knowing that the killer is locked away.
Anonymous said...
What has become of Hegewisch? It was once a great place to raise a family.
2/18/2011 07:59:00 AM
Haha, i almost spit out my drink. Where have you been the last 20-30 years.
Prayers for CPD safety and the FD employees.
I never thought Family Dollar was anything special -- but $7.6 billion is being offered for the chain in a buyout bid...
"Family Dollar, led by Chief Executive Officer Howard Levine, is selling more groceries and renovating stores to attract customers. The second-biggest dollar chain in the U.S..."
Maybe next year it'll go bankrupt and explode and disappear. Who knows these days...up and down, up and down...
http://www.bloomberg.com/
news/2011-02-15/peltz-s
-trian-offers-to-buy-
discounter-family-dollar
-for-up-to-60-a-share.html
What happened to Hegewisch?
Simple, Section 8 & " Sanctuary City "
Lived there till the Pod went up.
Moved to Belmont & Central Park...Pod put up last summer.
Next move is out of state, thanks for the shits & giggles Chicago ...A.M.F.!
'What has become of Hegewisch? It was once a great place to raise a family.'
Latin Kings, Latin Counts, Latin Dragons, hillbilly biker trash between Illinois & Indiana. Any more questions?
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Mayor debate
Appearantly Chico is Rahm-lite. He wants to negotiate over our pension! Daley stacked the deck and the FLOP bought it hook line and sinker. Get ready for the pain, brothers.
If you think that our current pension will remain solvent if nothing is changed you are smoking something. Our pension needs to be adjusted so that we will have one wehn we retire. We fell asleep at the wheel by not getiing involved sooner. Now we have to do damage control. If i have to contribute more to ensure I will have a pension so be it. It sucks but its a fact of life.
I heard the robbers escaped out back. Good old 004th district.
2/18/2011 08:58:00 AM
Seriously Hero, next time you're in a gun battle with a couple of shitbirds, we'll second guess your great work. Excellent job by the officers involved, who went home safe.
Anonymous said...
I bet 433 was in the north end as usual. The off duty police are policing the hood themselves.
2/18/2011 08:44:00 AM
it was the guys on 433 that shot at the bad guys you douche....
there are guys that work that beat that actually care about the beat..
Anonymous said...
What has become of Hegewisch? It was once a great place to raise a family.
2/18/2011 07:59:00 AM
Hopefully your house didn't get a flat on the way to school...or if your from Hogwash....the book learnin place.
2/18/2011 08:27:00 AM
Well, at least when we went to the "book learnin place" they taught us the difference between "your," a possessive, and "you're" a contraction of you are.
Your little house and CPS substandard education are apparently inferior to Hegewisch trailor court upbringing and "book learnin."
Now go get your fucking shine box.
I heard the robbers escaped out back. Good old 004th district.
2/18/2011 08:58:00 AM
Don't know what ya meant by..."good old 004th district" ....have u ever worked in 004?, saw it's geographical size?...Officers in a gun battle, they re-treat,take cover, call 10-1 and pray back-up arrives within 10 minutes ,especially on 433's beat,all the while watchin each others back and ensuring the safety of the victims inside the store...you sure must not be the police
Only slightly OT....
Got this from a pro concealed carry site reporting a facebook post from noone other than....
Michael Pfleger
Hey FB Family do me a favor call Senate President John Cullertons office tomorrow 217-782-2728 Springfield 773-883-0770 and tell him don't make any deals and sell out supporting cocealed weapons in Ill. You can tell him if he does St. Sabina will be at his office! PROMISE!
PLEASE CALL THE NUMBER AND TELL THE RECEPTIONIST YOU SUPPORT CONCEALED CARRY.....
Post this to your FB, tweet, email...let your voice be heard
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Tonight and tomorrow best for errands/outdoor activities if you got a choice --
Sunday night wll be cold, nasty, a whole lot of rain and T-storms --
Turning to snow Monday AM -- projections right now are 3.7" at Midway, 4.6" at O'Hare.
I guess I'll go get a gallon a milk and a loaf a bread...(sigh of fatigue)
there can be no section 8 invasion without the cooperation of the residential/rental property owners.
I was not throwing a shot at them idiot, I was knocking your idiot commander and the zone for pulling them out of the Hood all the time. nothing but love for the guys and gals in 004. Especially the ones that live in the hood they are doing the best they can.
All was clear. Nobody home by the time swat arrived, set up shop, got the coand vans (yes plural, patrol had one, detective division had one, swat had one) by the time they made entry the bad guys made good their escape. My suggestion, SORT train more TRU and MSF officers give them a bearcat and the equipment to make immediate entry.
2/18/2011 08:27:00 AM
Are you serious, I really hope that you have no family that really cares about you! You are willing to immediately run after offenders who have just shot at the police and has no hostages. You are not brave but stupid, with that mentality your family will have to bury you or you will pay tons of money from the civil lawsuit. I know, you know it all, swat and the officers who were first on scene are stupid. I bet you never even tried out for swat! The offenders get out the back before the district locked down all exits, could happen to anybody. They did a good job, there was no reason to rush in and try to be a hero for nothing! The people who are stupid are you and the long haired,bearded plain clothes copper who broke the perimeter with his rifle just as swat was gonna make there entry! What did he think, they were gonna ask for his help! After he was told he was in the hot zone ( in the line of fire w/o cover) he refused to leave and set up along the fence line with his rifle and had to be given a direct order by swat commander to stand down. This cops stupidity delayed swats entry even longer. Common get a clue
Don't be so quick to shoot an arrow into Hegewisch. Been out here 40yrs. Lots of young coppers and fireman still here and still coming. Cheap property taxes, cheap gas and food prices are just across the border. If this jagoff commander would just keep 433 on the beat and not up on 79th st., the little wannabe bangers that are around would be taken care of. As far as Section 8, blame the exiting little guy on the 5th floor. By tearing down the jets all at once, he's infected most of the remaining decent communities and burbs. If you think Beverly, Mt. Greasewood, and Garcia Ridge are any better, knock yourself out. Try driving up and down Western Ave. on the south end and check out all the characters just hangin' and lookin'
Retired 14yrs.........
Does hegewisch have a beat car?
If not, why not?
All was clear. Nobody home by the time swat arrived, set up shop, got the coand vans (yes plural, patrol had one, detective division had one, swat had one) by the time they made entry the bad guys made good their escape. My suggestion, SORT train more TRU and MSF officers give them a bearcat and the equipment to make immediate entry.
2/18/2011 08:27:00 AM
Or how about disband all those useless units and train and equip patrol for things like this. You know, the one's that actually get there first before all the special people. What happens when something like this happens during the day when all the super cops are home sleeping? Should we just send in patrol for the slaughter because of NO equipment/training for situations like these? And no, I'm not a tru/msf(same damn thing) hater because they won't take me, I'm the guy who works my schedule because of family issues.
Only slightly OT....
Got this from a pro concealed carry site reporting a facebook post from noone other than....
Michael Pfleger
Hey FB Family do me a favor call Senate President John Cullertons office tomorrow 217-782-2728 Springfield 773-883-0770 and tell him don't make any deals and sell out supporting cocealed weapons in Ill. You can tell him if he does St. Sabina will be at his office! PROMISE!
PLEASE CALL THE NUMBER AND TELL THE RECEPTIONIST YOU SUPPORT CONCEALED CARRY.....
Post this to your FB, tweet, email...let your voice be heard
2/18/2011 05:12:00 PM
Running it all behind his computer, drinking wine spo dee o dee.
there can be no section 8 invasion without the cooperation of the residential/rental property owners.
2/18/2011 06:24:00 PM
You mean all of them who live outside the city-state!
What has become of Hegewisch? It was once a great place to raise a family.
Do you mean 20 years ago when there were no gangs, but only half retarded drunk iron workers stumbling around town?
I heard the robbers escaped out back. Good old 004th district.
2/18/2011 08:58:00 AM
Don't know what ya meant by..."good old 004th district" ....have u ever worked in 004?, saw it's geographical size?...Officers in a gun battle, they re-treat,take cover, call 10-1 and pray back-up arrives within 10 minutes ,especially on 433's beat,all the while watchin each others back and ensuring the safety of the victims inside the store...you sure must not be the police
2/18/2011 04:55:00 PM
You must be one of the duck and pray guys.
well, Hegewisch has a beat car, to cover a beat about 25 blocks long by 16 blocks wide (3 miles by 2 miles?), often cutoff by long freight trains and bridges raised for freighters....but the powers that be say, "send that car anywhere", maybe meaning they might not be able to get back to the beat (not to mention CFD); and, a soon to be announced multiyear road project will close major local sections and bridges..the city that works...
there can be no section 8 invasion without the cooperation of the residential/rental property owners.
2/18/2011 06:24:00 PM
You mean all of them who live outside the city-state!
2/19/2011 08:05:00 PM
yeah, I mean them.
and the ones invested in the companies that front for them, both foreign and domestic.
Whoever the next aldercreature is from the 10th needs to go Vrdolyak style and get a couple- yes, two OR MORE- beat cars assigned to police nothing but 127th to 136th, east of Brainerd and West of the trailer court.
That neighborhood has always suffered from unfortunate proximity issues- mostly good people in Hegewisch, but surrounded by turds who soak all the police service.
Hegewisch is something the politicians can reference in terms of a far southside neighborhood that is relatively safe, yet they're letting it deteriorate.
"Bad guys escaped out the back." That was the hand of God if ever a hand was named. Let 'em go! It's not like you won't get another chance to blow the assholes away. Next time hopefully all your HBT vehicles will be available and now that everyone's had a little "fire drill" for practice it won't matter if there are three or thirteen bad guys or seven getaway doors, they won't stand a chance. It NEVER matters when they evade arrest as long as no officers or citizens were killed or seriously hurt. Fuck those punks. What kind of bitch robs a Dollar store anyway?
every officer working 433 should have a carbine with them. You will be out numbered and help will not make it in time plus large open areas out there. If a bad guy runs on you especially in the Wolf Lake or lake Calumet areas you would be glad you had one.
"Bad guys escaped out the back." That was the hand of God if ever a hand was named. Let 'em go! It's not like you won't get another chance to blow the assholes away. Next time hopefully all your HBT vehicles will be available and now that everyone's had a little "fire drill" for practice it won't matter if there are three or thirteen bad guys or seven getaway doors, they won't stand a chance. It NEVER matters when they evade arrest as long as no officers or citizens were killed or seriously hurt. Fuck those punks. What kind of bitch robs a Dollar store anyway?
2/20/2011 05:13:00 AM
Damn right we'll get another chance,the next morning blood trail(dna) was discovered a few blocks away.it was compared to the gun,mask,and gloves that shitbird left at scene,which the bloodhound on brought to the scene sniffed from family dollar directly to a sec.8 property!! 3 times to be sure!
There ya go! Can't beat the CPD or their dogs.
Stopped going to Aniol's Hardware Store in Hegewisch years ago. The owner is one of the biggest Section 8 landlords in Hegewisch.
Hopefully your house didn't get a flat on the way to school...or if your from Hogwash....the book learnin place.
2/18/2011 08:27:00 AM
Well, at least when we went to the "book learnin place" they taught us the difference between "your," a possessive, and "you're" a contraction of you are.
Your little house and CPS substandard education are apparently inferior to Hegewisch trailor court upbringing and "book learnin."
Now go get your fucking shine box.
Hogwash, lmfao
Stopped going to Aniol's Hardware Store in Hegewisch years ago. The owner is one of the biggest Section 8 landlords in Hegewisch.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Section 8 building in question is owned by a Chicago Policeman. We all know which one it is.
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