Here Come the SPARs
A-fucking-mazing. Get a load of what IAD is doing (click the image for full size):
Evidently, IAD is going to go through with the 1,300 complaints for viewing/printing the case report from the 023 District incident. This is the only scan we've received so far from our informants, but we can only assume that one went out to every command in the city since so many people accessed the reports.
So now the question becomes, "Did everyone get get a SPAR notice? Every exempt that accessed the report? Every detective? Every supervisor who may have used this not as an opportunity for cheap shots but as a training tool?" A blanket SPAR with no investigation whatsoever? One could plausibly assume this is a trial balloon to see how hard the new FOP regime is going to fight for officers, because there is no justification we can see for naming 1,300 names in some sort of misguided witch hunt.
This is one of the stupidest things we've seen come out of downtown in a long time, and that's saying something seeing as how J-Fled just left.
Evidently, IAD is going to go through with the 1,300 complaints for viewing/printing the case report from the 023 District incident. This is the only scan we've received so far from our informants, but we can only assume that one went out to every command in the city since so many people accessed the reports.So now the question becomes, "Did everyone get get a SPAR notice? Every exempt that accessed the report? Every detective? Every supervisor who may have used this not as an opportunity for cheap shots but as a training tool?" A blanket SPAR with no investigation whatsoever? One could plausibly assume this is a trial balloon to see how hard the new FOP regime is going to fight for officers, because there is no justification we can see for naming 1,300 names in some sort of misguided witch hunt.
This is one of the stupidest things we've seen come out of downtown in a long time, and that's saying something seeing as how J-Fled just left.
Labels: un-fucking-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
206 Comments:
What's un-fucking believable is that anyone in this electronic age would actually access the damn report knowing it could be traced back to them.
The same goes for running license plates for friends. If something goes wrong, you've left an electronic trail that can be followed.
If you're curious about something, read about it here or in the paper, and don't put your ass out in a sling using your PC number.
Gotta request a hearing for that one...that'll keep the District Commanders busy for a while.
Everyone was so happy to get Hillard back? He never gave slack and jacked up every suspension case on his desk. he's all about disciplining. His little red head sidekick kirby too.This has Hillard written all over it. anyone who thinks this is Rivera is an idiot.
But half the readers of this blog weren't here under hillard.
HA HA this is awesome! Tax dollars hard at work! IAD, the best unit ever
O.T.
Can anyone tell me why the Commander of 192's secretary is allowed to make decisions.
Last time we checked a Sgt. and above is a higher
Rank than her.
Thanks for screwing us over!
You can't really believe that everyone will
Show up to St. Jude and also stand inspection
2 days later.
I've been in unit for a long time and the 1st reason
people go to St. Jude is to pay their respect however
for decades the bosses have used the attendance
there to count for Spring Inspection.
Even the districts honor this tradition.
You think last years attendance was bad (10-15)
people. Well honey, it will be you and the Commander.
It's bad enough that morale is in the shitter and
now we gave to deal with this Wench coaching
A Commander who doesn't know how it works
cause he's been taken care of in inside positions his
entire career. It's a pity that he needs to take advice from
a secretary who can bearly spell.
CHANGES can't come soon enough!!!
SCC, please tell me you aren't serious about the "training tool" thing. That's just plain dumb. There are indeed some reports/incidents that have such value, but this one ??
Please
seriously? whats wrong with our leadership? more morale boosting from downtown.
since this is coming from IAD on the fifth floor the subject heading should have been " an explanation from the hundreds of people who work in this building who never work an 8.5 hour day "--- investigate that jagoff--- also how some of these people attained rank when they are dumb as a box of rocks....
Do NOT sign S.P.A.R.
Demand a hearing before the Complaint Review Panel.
Expect the blue flu on this one. This is not the time to piss off 1300 of us, when we need the manpower for the possible bulls riots.
sad!
I'm reminded of the Full Metal Jacket scene "Is that you John Wayne"
Quote:
"WHO SAID THAT? WHO THE F**K SAID THAT? Who's the slimy little communist sh*t, twinkle-toed c--ks--ker down here who just signed his own death warrant? Nobody, huh? The fairy f**kin godmother said it. Out-f**kin-standing! I will PT you all until you f**kin die! I'll PT you until your @ssholes are sucking buttermilk!"
The only ones that will get SPARED will be the lowley P.O.s. Since the beginning of time the bossess have never got jammed no matter what they did. They will be left off the list and no one will even know. But you can bet many a boss looked up the case. This is just another reason why there is no trust any more. Different rules for the special people.
For Pete's sake, they determined who actually accessed it and leaked it. Discipline him and leave it be.
Gotta love the ex post facto rule, implemented for just this ONE report.
How petty and small can you be, Juan Rivera? Some sworn personnel accessed a report to determine the facts of a case, rather than rely on the false and misleading reports in the media and you PUNISH them for it?
It seems that part of this witch hunt hinges on the whole being "printed" part of this accusation. I know people who accessed and read the report, but didn't print a copy that haven't heard shit about ramifications...yet.
Furthermore, I know several people who have both looked-up and printed copies of the arrest reports of the 023 district 1/W Romeos without getting called on the carpet...yet.
I know for a FACT that the few guys/gals in my district (yes, it's in places other than 011) that got caught-up in this nonsense (they were listed by name AND time they allegedly accessed/printed the GOCR off AIRA on a second page), did NOT receive a SPAR on paper. They were told by the investigating Sergeant(s) to drop a To-From regarding their involvement. A few of the smarter/more tenured folks refused because they weren't presented with anything official on paper regarding any specific transgression.
EVERY copper that get's jack-potted, even if it ultimately winds up to be the infamous "counseling session", needs to tenaciously inquire as to what punishment gets meted out to the Tact Lieutenant from 023. After all, he is rumored to have physically DISSEMINATED THIS SAME REPORT TO MEMBERS OF THE PRESS. And then there are the many, many other supervisors that have surely printed the GOCR.
*** AND...just a little food for thought. There were earlier rumblings that those investigating promised to make examples out of those that might put excuses on paper that are less-than-believeable: "I walked out for a smoke and left the computer logged-in under my PC number" may get you (at minimum) a "Failure To secure Department Property" beef, or worse, a "Falsifying An Official Report".
Don't get jammed-up lying on paper because you're trying to minimize damage for this bullshit beef. In all likelihood, this witch hunt is going to be killed before it grows legs when the brain trust that initiated it is put on notice that it really isn't feasible to "investigate" 1,300+ individuals.
And seeing that said brain trust is comprised of a group of imbeciles, FOP needs to get in front of this pronto and let IAD know what time it is.
Why are you surprised? Just cause jody is gone doesn't mean the cancer left with him.Hillard, or whoever is in charge ,is just a city hall tool.Some genius thought this is the way to show the peons who is boss.This department is dead and nody can save it.Good luck Rham.
last time I checked the patch on my shoulder said "Chicago Police". as 023 is part of Chicago who are you to tell me I can't read the case?
How about don't look at the police report? Is that crazy idea?
Spar if you viewed the document online and a day off if you printed it out. That's the discussion at IAD-we'll see what happens.
Ask the good IAD sgt if fooling around with your married co-worker and then showing up at his house at 3am to declare your love is sparable?
If the Bulls win the 2011 NBA Championship, I say let the city burn. Maybe in the process some of the those doing this witch hunting will get seriously singed.
You know damn well that the department will not do anything to the exempts and white shirts who accessed that RD#.
Nor will they conduct an investigation to see who happened to pick-up the photo copies of the incident as they laid around the stations.
Nor will they go after the IAD personnel who did not have a reason to access this information.
What the fuck are these bosses thinking? 1,300 plus SPAR's.
Fuck this department and fuck this city.
I am absolutely disgusted by this knee jerk reaction and I am not even one of those who looked up this event. Unfucking believable is an understatement!!
i may have taken a look at it and I might not have.. i really dont remember if I did but if I do get sparred... eh, whatever.. only stays on the record for a year
Misuse of department equipment?
Is that like using the take home car to ride out to the stables? Not CPD stables, no,no, the one near Huntley where a certain LT keeps her pony.
Gotta go, my stent is aching, and I gotta be at work by noon so I can take my early duck at 3. It's my friday, and double sgt day.
47 arrived in the front office in 22 today
LOLOLOLOL....Could everyone please be quiet! I'm studying for my ethics test...LOLOLOLOLOL
How bout every time I saw a take home car boss loading groceries and the kids and dog into the car at Jewel or Dominicks while dressed in an Hawaiin shirt? Or parked outside some bar? ETC, ETC, ETC...
Dont have enough SPAR forms for that...
Those who are without sin, cast the first SPAR form...
? Not on letterhead. Not signed. Is this normal?
This reeks of Kirby!
Dumb and Dumber!!! I thought JFled is gone for good . . . but it seems not. Oh I forgot his trolls are still around.
Yep, downtown is pretty retarded. Just like when we were warned in 007 not to pull up Henny Penny's mugshot. Like I told the watch commander then, "Hey if I bump into this looney at Teasers, I want to make sure what it looks like before I make bacon with a micro-managing, dog-whacking, telephone tough talking meritorious crazy chick!"
Uh-huh.....they didn't say shit then except ask me pretty please not to do it.
I accessed this Town Hall debacle too. Bring it! I.A.D. couldn't catch the clap at a Mexican whore house.
This is only the beginning. When Little Dictator Rahm takes the throne at City Hall it will get much worse. Daley has destroyed the entire dept. and Rahm will piss all over us as he laughs. THE PEOPLE WILL GET THE POLICE DEPT. THEY DESERVE.
There's value in reading incident reports. I read every report my PD writes (we are only 100 guys).
That's how you learn what going on, what to do, what not to do.
In an incident like this, there is huge training value in reading a report like this. Especially for younger guys who think it's ok to engage in conduct these guys allegedly did.
just remember the LT. who dropped the ball will recieve the same spar!
ONCE AGAIN THE WHITE SHIRT WHO TRIED TO MAKE THE MEDIA HIS FRIEND IS COVERED UNDER THE B CUELLO RULE.
IF A WHITE SHIRT STEPS ON HIS SHIT NOTHING HAPPENS.
AND WHO CARES ABOUT SPAR ANYWAYS!
THE FUNNY THING IS MY BOSS IS THE ONE THAT PRINTED IT I ONLY COPIED IT?
LAZY IAD EVERY ONE SHOULD TAKE IT TO ARBITRATION.
just file the grievences if any po gets sparred and make sure the bosses follow the order. Chief Rivera should have a CR# placed on him for a rule 6 violation.
G.O. 93-3-07 Summary Punishment if bosses do not follow the order its a rule 6 violation especially where it says Discretion and counselling will be used prior to summary punishment.
Mike Meahler current Intel wannabe knew a few years ago that a PO forged his name to go to swat but did nothing. What would Mr.Jesus do no ethics
It's a pity that he needs to take advice from
a secretary who can bearly spell.
CHANGES can't come soon enough!!!
4/21/2011 12:16:00 AM
Wow, I hope you were being sarcastic. Or, can YOU > barely < spell?
You idiots.
Hillard and Kirby wanted a blanket CR investigation with suspension time all around and Rivera convinced them that that was insane. Every frickin' day Rivera has been trying to temper, first the Weis/Masters duo, and now the Hillard/Kirby team. Give the guy a break.
Hillard never met a disciplinary action that he didn't want to raise.
But I was curious!
SCC, please tell me you aren't serious about the "training tool" thing. That's just plain dumb. There are indeed some reports/incidents that have such value, but this one ??
Please
4/21/2011 12:16:00 AM
For the first five years in my job I read every co-workers report I could get my hands on. I read reports in files I had to pull. It improves your skills in more ways than just writing. It opens you up to different perspectives and methods. And there is always something that you didn't know or weren't aware of. I stopped doing it for awhile but have recently gone back to doing it because our offenders are changing, they're getting worse, their behavior is more bizarre yet the pressure to CYA is greater than ever because of all the rules and regs. And you can't possibly be exposed yourself to every scenario, by reading reports you can. You can also see how a good report can protect you from manipulation and politics. A bad report will fuck you up later on down the line. It's a completely worthwhile use of time if part of your job is to document because if it's not documented, it didn't happen.
---not a cop
EVERY copper that get's jack-potted, even if it ultimately winds up to be the infamous "counseling session", needs to tenaciously inquire as to what punishment gets meted out to the Tact Lieutenant from 023. After all, he is rumored to have physically DISSEMINATED THIS SAME REPORT TO MEMBERS OF THE PRESS
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just remember the LT. who dropped the ball will recieve the same spar!
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It was written on this blog repeated on this blog by people that read it on this blog so it must be true.
Do not let the signature fool you; this witch hunt is the brainchild and sole responsibility of Deb Kirby.
That she is mentioned as a possibility for Superintendent should frighten everyone. We've been warned....
Ok..... what was in the report from 023 that everyone that read it or looked it up has thier tit in a ringer?
I do not understand the reason for this CR#/SPAR... can we not look up any report or arrest we want?? sometime u need look up case reports to look for named offenders, to arrest. You did not do the original case report and were not involved in the original incident... So basically this SPAR sounds like you can not look up a case report, if you were directily involved with the paper.
I don't see how any police officer is unable to look up any report generated in the department. It's not for personal use. It's a situational awareness thing.
When you read what happened on a case that catches the public's eye, are you not more informed? You don't rely on the press or locker room rumors to find out what happened, you know first hand.
Our job in the intelligence led policing age is to stay informed. Or are we going backwards? Which way do you want it, CPD brass? Do we stay informed or put blinders on and not read reports or look up mug shots as police officers in the 21st century?
It's bad enough that any suburban cop can look up a criminal history from their squad car and we need a detective to do it. That's an officer safety issue that's never addressed. Now they want to limit looking at reports and mugshots?
This CR will go nowhere. It's idiotic.
OT - Lookin for hookers?
Chicago Breaking News today let it be known that if you are looking for a prostitute and you used to to do your shopping online at the rescinded Adult Services section on Craigslist, you may now go to backpage.com for these same services.
I'm sure the local online hookers, whose business will now surely increase, thank you, Chicago Breaking News. I'm also sure Tom Dart already knew where to find them!
DUH!
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/
local/ct-met-craigslist-update-20110420,0,977395.story
EVERYONE ask for a hearing. FOP should give you the guidelines that you should include in your response.
Lastly, once again PLEASE don't associate St. Jude with dumb boss decisions. Nothing could be farther apart by comparison.
I'll be there to Honor Our Fallen and to see the DC/DS.
IF the FOP had any balls they would have this matter in court to make sure that EVERY boss gets nailed first before anyone else does. Plus make IAD prove it was the person that is being accused that was looking at the computer at the time.
Oh, please! Don't they have anything better to do?
What's un-fucking believable is that anyone in this electronic age would actually access the damn report knowing it could be traced back to them.
The same goes for running license plates for friends. If something goes wrong, you've left an electronic trail that can be followed.
If you're curious about something, read about it here or in the paper, and don't put your ass out in a sling using your PC number.
4/21/2011 12:08:00 AM
I was just thinking the same thing about people running the spitting kid's background. You cannot be doing that shit in this day and age.
HA HA this is awesome! Tax dollars hard at work! IAD, the best unit ever
4/21/2011 12:13:00 AM
Really? How about all the tax dollars that will be hard at work paying off the enormous lawsuit the city will settle on for an invasion of this girl's privacy. Then everyone on this blog will bitch about not enough money to hire officers and on and on.
A few of the smarter/more tenured folks refused because they weren't presented with anything official on paper regarding any specific transgression.
4/21/2011 12:44:00 AM
You have no right to refuse a lawful order.
wow this is a sad day for all police personnel who are sworn officers the deparment continues to treat everyone like children they don't trust it's own officers sad and if this is to punish members in this department i only hope they are also going after all those in white shirts.
Poor Chief Rivera he was trying so hard to stay under the radar to be in the running for superintendent now he wants to make a name for himself. What about his C.R. # that was on him while he was and still is Chief of I.A.D. what happened to that one? Once again go after the blue shirts.
lets get real- so the fuck what- I pulled a case report to check it out and now all you do nothings commenting on how your leaving a trail- crawl back under your rock you trolls- we're the police I have access to certain stuff and I should be able to pull it up as long as I don't break any laws or hurt anybody- get real you monday morning quarterback fucks
Why can't they just put a restricted tag on reports they don't want u to read or are confidential? They do that with major incidents reports on clear. That way you cannot access it ? Sounds simple.
LIFM says "SPAR DIS!"
we are SPARTA!
you think we here in 011 who out lasted 'HEN IS PEN IS"..think a spar will scare us..LMAO..
365 in 376 didn't even scare me.
"you got NUTIN KID!"
Bw smart, use your supervisor's ID number.
Yet, the media somehow has full access to report. They were quoting it on day one. So, now the media has privileges that officers do not? Someone? Anyone?
Seiser says he transported the arrest reports for all to view using his telepathic brain waves. PROVE IT.
He used to work for the psychic hotline!
Anonymous said...
? Not on letterhead. Not signed. Is this normal?
4/21/2011 01:52:00 AM
All senior police officers know any formal action written on paper with a letterhead means you are REALLY in trouble. No letterhead is the key. It signifies this action is just the department doing CYA. It's the wink-wink that tells us it's only play-trouble. But keep it to yourself, else, everyone will be in on it. Shhhh, mum's the word. Keep the secret and you'll qualify to know the secret handshake.
Yep, downtown is pretty retarded. Just like when we were warned in 007 not to pull up Henny Penny's mugshot. Like I told the watch commander then, "Hey if I bump into this looney at Teasers, I want to make sure what it looks like before I make bacon with a micro-managing, dog-whacking, telephone tough talking meritorious crazy chick!"
Uh-huh.....they didn't say shit then except ask me pretty please not to do it.
I accessed this Town Hall debacle too. Bring it! I.A.D. couldn't catch the clap at a Mexican whore house.
4/21/2011 04:15:00 AM
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Really? Which watch commander did you tell this to? I work in 007. I'll need to ask around, but then again nobody will talk because I'm sure they are terrified of you too!
Oh, wait. Written at 4:15am. This must be Ofc. Jack Daniels. U R A H-J.
Did this actually go out? I am a little suspicious since it's not signed. Also it did not go through the chain and normally they would send it out to all Districts, not one at a time. If it is real, why weren't the involved officers contacted during the investigation prior to determining they violated rules?
Mayor Rahm , select a superintendent from the outside or from cpd , a supervisor without any merit promotions . Commanders and above that were unable to pass a sergeant or lieutenant test should not be selected to lead chicago's finest . Look over all current commanders and above and dump those unqualified .
Someone shoots a bad guy at a birthday party doesn't qualify them to be our superintendent.
Spar if you viewed the document online and a day off if you printed it out. That's the discussion at IAD-we'll see what happens.
4/21/2011
I'll take my day on the bulls riot day or Waste of Chicago fireworks. Just add it to my RDOs. Woof woof.
Well I am assuming there is no smoke And mirror detail to msf and tru this year????? Shouldn't an order for the detail supposed to come out today??? Looks like the low seniority clout babies will come away unscathed this year.....35th st mole anything????
This whole spar thing is ridiculous but I am so glad a certain Sgt in unit 145 is the ONLY person in the unit that got caught looking up the reports. Karma is a BITCH! Sgt S.K. you are a disgrace to this department and all of us in the traffic section want you to leave! quit messing with other supervisors and officers and maybe u would have friends!! hope this spar will take money out of your pocket just like you take money from ours!!!
Keep working people thinking they have your back!!! This is no longer run by people on the same side.
The department has the ability to "lock" the reports in CHRIS from those without the authority to view them. This was done in the past. I am surprised this wasn't done in this case knowing the curiosity it would bring from other police officers.
It wasn't me. Someone must have gotten my PC number from the Commanders Office or maybe downtown or maybe the IAD.
Anonymous said...
O.T.
Can anyone tell me why the Commander of 192's secretary is allowed to make decisions.
Last time we checked a Sgt. and above is a higher
Rank than her. . . . . . .
Didn't you know it already the first day this goof became the commander of vice. He totally doesn't know what is going on better yet run a unit so he needs a troll to run it for him. All he care is about himself and his personal stuff he needs to do when he is at work. And for her, your days is numbered so better enjoy where you are right now because after May a new commander and secretary will be in your position and put shit in your face. I have seen it happened too many times, the last one she replace was the same way until her time came up and realized what she had done. Oh by the way, look at the mirror and see how ugly you are. Inside and out.
Anonymous said...
O.T.
Can anyone tell me why the Commander of 192's secretary is allowed to make decisions.
Last time we checked a Sgt. and above is a higher
Rank than her.
Thanks for screwing us over!
You can't really believe that everyone will
Show up to St. Jude and also stand inspection
2 days later.
I've been in unit for a long time and the 1st reason
people go to St. Jude is to pay their respect however
for decades the bosses have used the attendance
there to count for Spring Inspection.
Even the districts honor this tradition.
You think last years attendance was bad (10-15)
people. Well honey, it will be you and the Commander.
It's bad enough that morale is in the shitter and
now we gave to deal with this Wench coaching
A Commander who doesn't know how it works
cause he's been taken care of in inside positions his
entire career. It's a pity that he needs to take advice from
a secretary who can bearly spell.
CHANGES can't come soon enough!!!
4/21/2011 12:16:00 AM
Didnt they just have openings in a bunch of districts. last time i checked you could've bid out.
Are we not required or advised to read the daily reports so that we are aware of situations within the community?
Expect the blue flu on this one. This is not the time to piss off 1300 of us, when we need the manpower for the possible bulls riots.
4/21/2011 12:31:00 AM
HAHAHA Blue flu? Please..This dept will eat shit and wait for seconds...hmmm I remember "blue Flu" talk when Bill Cozzi got sentenced.
Hey unit 192, stop your bitching and get in formation! Nobody cares you clout heavy know it all know nothing jackass. If you had any people skills at all you would have a rapport with your commander and you would be able to chat with him instead of complaining on a blog. How did you get to unit 192 anyway, hard work and dedication to the job I'm sure?
Obviously IAD should be disbanded with nothing else to do but this nonsense! Hey juan youwanto resign goof?
Anonymous Chrys Manny Otis said...
Misuse of department equipment?
Is that like using the take home car to ride out to the stables? Not CPD stables, no,no, the one near Huntley where a certain LT keeps her pony.
Gotta go, my stent is aching, and I gotta be at work by noon so I can take my early duck at 3. It's my friday, and double sgt day.
4/21/2011 01:44:00 AM
What about burkes and the treasurers cpd cars being used to take them to their vacation cottages in wisconsin with cpd officers oh sorry for the clouted it don't work like that jagoffs?
OK everybody, perfect timing, Rham steps in and screws 1300 Police Officer's from the get go, then he is going to take away our pension's screwing the rest of us.
Not one white shirt will suffer and receive punishment nor repercussion's from this. It always falls upon Patrol, and it always trickles down to the watches.
Even the districts honor this tradition.
You think last years attendance was bad (10-15)
people. Well honey, it will be you and the Commander.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I am retired now, but I was in organized crime for 17 years, on and off. I made almost every St. Jude for my entire time on the job. You have your head up your ass. Guys like you only go to get out of inspection, not for any other reason. And you want to get out of inspection because you don't have your uniform together, or don't want to put it on or bring it in. I know how good you have it there, so don't try to bullshit everyone. Get off your ass, and go to honor our dead, and their families. If you have to stand inspection, so be it. Maybe if the rest of your buddies down there went as well, the commander would not have to try to force people to go. If it were up to me, every single officer would be in uniform on that day, no trench coats, no silly hats, no sweaters, no long hair, no beards. Shave and get a haircut before you go. And don't try to tell me you need long hair and a beard to do your job. Maybe narcotics buy officers need to look scruffy, but that's it. You don't need a beard and long hair to sit in a wire room, or be on surveillance on the west side. Everyone out there knows exactly who you are.
Quit whining and get the fuck down to the lakefront on St. Jude Sunday.
Chrys Manny Otis said...
Misuse of department equipment?
Is that like using the take home car to ride out to the stables? Not CPD stables, no,no, the one near Huntley where a certain LT keeps her pony.
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4/21/2011 01:44:00 AM
My favorite was the time I was in Door County WI. and saw the exempt and family in his CPD vehicle pulling in to the Piggly Wiggly. He must have been on a personal.
Can anyone tell me why the Commander of 192's secretary is allowed to make decisions.
Last time we checked a Sgt. and above is a higher
Rank than her.
Yeah 192, that's tough duty
Quote from an old WW ll movie, don't remember actor nor movie title, but the quote has stuck in my mind all these years.
German COL. watching roving squads of SS detaining, then shooting fellow soldiers over paperwork i.e. ID books, printed orders etc.
COL. sez' " if we're shooting our own men, the war is LOST "
Thank you, that is all.
A SPAR (Summary Punishment Action Request) is a formset used to mete out discipline to CPD members for "less serious transgressions".
It's also used as a verb (i.e., "I got SPARred")
I accesses it, but did not print I SAY!
Guess I'll find out after my days off........
Let IAD fire all 1300!
(i don't think they will when everyone refuses to do anything, except for the suckholes that will accept punishment to keep their sacred spots)
RE: Everyone was so happy to get Hillard back? He never gave slack and jacked up every suspension case on his desk. he's all about disciplining. His little red head sidekick kirby too.This has Hillard written all over it. anyone who thinks this is Rivera is an idiot.
But half the readers of this blog weren't here under hillard.
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I worked directly for Rivera. This is TOTALLY RIVERA. DO NOT make the mistake of thinking that RIVERA is a stand-up guy. HE'S NOT.
Trust the Bosses?
About the same time I start trusting State Attorneys
Not gonna Fuc.... happen
Chief now? merit all the way.
There's value in reading incident reports. I read every report my PD writes (we are only 100 guys).
That's how you learn what going on, what to do, what not to do.
In an incident like this, there is huge training value in reading a report like this. Especially for younger guys who think it's ok to engage in conduct these guys allegedly did.
Couldn't agree more. But, that makes too much sense for a place like Chicago
The only ones that will get SPARED will be the lowley P.O.s. Since the beginning of time the bossess have never got jammed no matter what they did. They will be left off the list and no one will even know. But you can bet many a boss looked up the case. This is just another reason why there is no trust any more. Different rules for the special people.
4/21/2011 12:36:00 AM
CPS's Finest
Don't be surprised!
If they can get to everyone entertaining, and visiting this blog, these fucking assholes would!
Unreal! If they didn't want anyone to get access, they should come up with a program that automatically CLASSIFIES it, where it would then be non accessible. Oh Boy, just gave an idea for one of those police computer fucks to claim as their own. Oh well.
Whats up with Captain Al Nagode in 001 starting a fight with a guy on the tac team. Easy Captain.
This department can lay low for sometime now it checked off with 1300 heads.You can put it on the board! YOWZA!
I'm not sure what report that RD # is referring to, I'll have to look it up later at work!!
You know Eric Washington is sorry he re-joined these idiots among the exempt ranks again. This is some
seriously sorry ass shit, and Rivera should be ashamed
to have his name attached to that bullshit. I see this
being grieved somewhere down the line, and won by
the FOP.
That's totally inappropriate. It's lewd, vesivius, salacious, outrageous!
Cops are well known for being NOSY.. And CHEAP.. So, this shouldn't be a surprised to IAD. Yeah, that bullshit from 023rd District got out of hand as far as the media goes. But, what done is done. Time to fucking move on. Don't punish the Officers for being too NOSY because let's admit it, some had too much time on their hands.. Let's bury this fucking bullshit already!!!
IAD if you want to find using department equipment where it is not authorized, check the guy patrolman) in 177 that gets the lincoln nav with civilian plates to take home everyday, OH wait he is the bosses boy,,,,forget it nothing to see here.
The problem with these idiots downtown and on the fifth floor is that they have no clue as to how bad the indians will porch fuck the chiefs and this entire city when the time comes that we've had more than enough of their fucking games.
Let Emanuel call in the National Guard when the police just stand there and let it burn.
Payback's a motherfucker, dipshits.
Nagode is just pissed because he will never make it past captain and that he's been bald since he's been a PPo
Rivera is a stand-up guy. He has the backs of the working police. The key being WORKING.
He is however a boss and also takes orders. It seems to me that he is mitigating this mess the best he can.
Anyone that thinks having access to reports or other information to an investigation they are not directly involved in and accessing it without possible consequence is a fool.
Having said that, if a boss wants a to-from ask if that is an order and always put in the disclaimer.
However if you are not formaly served a CR call the FOP and determine exactly how to proceed.
INstead of wasting their time on BS like this, you would think that they would want to investigate true crimes and theft of $$$.
Hey Deb Kirby - why don't you ask that Admin. Mgr. over at the academy (yeah, you know the one that took over 30 Administrative Days(free days) last year)
Ask her what she did with the extra $14,000.00 from the state that was supposed to have been spent on inservice training.
That Admin. Mgr. that is a ghost payroller, "work from home employee", who is in charge of millions of dollars in NMERT funds.
Hey Deb, perhaps a forensic audit of book at the academy for the past five years would be in order.
Trust me Deb, you WILL be surprized!
Hey IAD Fucks!
How about a big "fuck you" to you all!
Da Pelon
P.S. this message is protected under the 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution! So, I dare you to fuck with me!
Well said..........
"Everyone was so happy to get Hillard back? He never gave slack and jacked up every suspension case on his desk. he's all about disciplining. His little red head sidekick kirby too.This has Hillard written all over it. anyone who thinks this is Rivera is an idiot.
But half the readers of this blog weren't here under hillard."
Very well said indeed.
Whats up with Captain Al Nagode in 001 starting a fight with a guy on the tac team. Easy Captain.
4/21/2011 02:34:00 PM
Never met the A$$hole but the way he treated on Duty Sgt. On the Kennedy a few years ago and got away with it, it wouldnt surprize me that he thinks he can do whatever he wants. CR Administrativly closed, "training issue". total BS.
Mike Meahler current Intel wannabe knew a few years ago that a PO forged his name to go to swat but did nothing. What would Mr.Jesus do no ethics
ASK CB in SWAT. No limit on official misconduct
I read almost every arrest in my district of work. Just too see what's going on. Should I stop?
to:Written at 4:15am. This must be Ofc. Jack Daniels. U R A H-J..............
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some of us do work midnites and the late shift. you know its a 24hr, round the clock job. doesn't automatically mean jack daniels
Blame your girl Deb Kirby for this bull!!!!!!!!!
Stop investigating officers for looking up a report on a computer ( not the crime of the century and a waste of time if your not gonna fire all those 1000+ officers ) and start investigating officers that abuse the medical or officers that are suspected of "real" criminal activity.
Or why not investigate why so many officers are still unhappy with many of today's department command staff who only want to make a name for themselves and are not doing what is good for the department as a whole or for the general public.
Bosses and supervisors nowadays never just ask their troops "how do you guys on the watch feel about things? What could I do to be a better supervisor?"
4/21/2011 12:08:00 PM
"...if we are shooting our own men, the war is LOST."
SCC, we hereby nominate the above quote as the absolute perfect and defining descriptive regarding the current state of CPD and this rectally sourced spasm of idiocy emanating from IAD.
1300 SPARS is nothing but an orchestrated "ha-ha gotcha" by somebody(s) trying to look good for the soon coming mating dance among the gold stars in hope of having a chair when the music stops playing.
For our money's worth, there are a few gold stars who should be STANDING ON a chair awaiting charges to be read aloud and the chair summarily kicked from under their feet while the band plays a merry fanfare. Let everybody share the same sure as shit-fire risk of being stood on a scaffold instead of just blueshirts. This would be a much better Department.
Too many upper
echelon/clouted/members
of the "lucky sperm club" people skating away with shit just because they're upper echelon/clouted/members of the "lucky sperm club."
Don't believe for a second that this in on the up and up. There are and have been LOTS of gold stars looking at and disseminating internal department documents to their friends in the media but they aren't the ones who are going to get hurt over this.
Just to show you how full of shit the Department is, if the powers that be really wanted to, they could have hidden the information in question from "prying eyes" but the highly placed media moles in CPD would have been blind in on eye in this regard as well.
We'll even dare to ask "Who among the gold stars have been getting paid for leaked info to local msm?
Rest assured it ain't done out of the kindness of their hearts.
In the meantime, BOLO for more of these nasty-gram "mass mailings" as the Department has been actively looking for ways to eight-ball hundreds if not thousands of coppers for something... Anything... To bolster the notion that "those blueshirts are so out of control."
Sad that the Department sees fit to declare war on it's Officers for the sake of naked politics, bullshit & gold star ego. 1300 spars is a stretch. Whoever instigated this didn't think about the administrative headaches on the back end but it's easier to punish 1300 officers than to address a perceived security shortcoming. Punishment for the sake of is lazy management.
FWIW... No. We had no desire to access the info in question. Sometimes, there is some shit that just screams "don't look & don't touch!"
We reckon it is human nature to "rubber-neck" at the scene of a horrific crash.
Your gonna spar me? A Day? Two days? Great! I'll take them right before my weekend. Woo hoo extended weekend!
I wonder if I am on this list since I only read the narrative in Data Warehouse, along with a few dozen other narratives. I wanted to see the arrests made in MY city the last couple days I was off.
Or does this only apply to those that pulled up the entire report through CHRIS or ICLEAR?
Can someone from IAD answer me??
Really? How about all the tax dollars that will be hard at work paying off the enormous lawsuit the city will settle on for an invasion of this girl's privacy. Then everyone on this blog will bitch about not enough money to hire officers and on and on.
4/21/2011 07:44:00 AM
Invasion of privacy?? That went out the door when the media reported on this in great detail within hours of the incident. Then the case report that was published on the news and let the whole world read it. with your line of thinking will she also sue the media for reporting this incident?
iA CR# was obtained for this! How is it my CR# was looked up across the entire city. I've even been informed of the IAD/ IPRA investigation. The best part is that I have not even spoken to IAD / IPRA. Nobody got a CR# for me. So to hear, that the department is obtaining a blanket CR# and issuing spars to those who looked up the GOCR. when the DEPARTMENT can't contain leaks from IAD / IPRA in every other alleged scandal. Is UNBELIEVABLE ! It does not show the integrity they portray. Instead it shows pettiness and the fear of not being judged by the public for allowing the incident to happen in the first place. If everyone looked up my CR#, and it was ok with the department. Then why is this CR# important. The information would be leaked any way. there is no better way to keep something secret than to send it to IAD / IPRA. Hah. People get ahead of this one barrage FOP with phone calls , now before this one gets out of hand.
does any one have more information on this if you do please provided more information.
4/21/2011 01:44:00 AM
What about burkes and the treasurers cpd cars being used to take them to their vacation cottages in wisconsin with cpd officers oh sorry for the clouted it don't work like that jagoffs?
That's totally inappropriate. It's lewd, vesivius, salacious, outrageous!
4/21/2011 03:10:00 PM
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Who told you to put the cream on? I didn't tell you to put the cream on!
Another CPD copper arrested today. This one is almost unbelievable. Processed at A/1 for DC (exposing his wanker) with a little diddling for entertainment value.
Mike Meahler current Intel wannabe knew a few years ago that a PO forged his name to go to swat but did nothing. What would Mr.Jesus do no ethics
4/21/2011 05:59:00 AM
He did nothing and the P.O. went on to make merit Sgt. On a more personal note he was known for stabbing his partners over. Watch your backs cause CB will not.
Anonymous said...
Yep, downtown is pretty retarded. Just like when we were warned in 007 not to pull up Henny Penny's mugshot. Like I told the watch commander then, "Hey if I bump into this looney at Teasers, I want to make sure what it looks like before I make bacon with a micro-managing, dog-whacking, telephone tough talking meritorious crazy chick!"
Uh-huh.....they didn't say shit then except ask me pretty please not to do it.
I accessed this Town Hall debacle too. Bring it! I.A.D. couldn't catch the clap at a Mexican whore house.
4/21/2011 04:15:00 AM
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I spit out my POP reading this..... I wil be using the last sentence for the rest of my life, when it comes to police debacles.... VERY FUNNY.... TY
Anonymous said...
Ok..... what was in the report from 023 that everyone that read it or looked it up has thier tit in a ringer?
4/21/2011 07:13:00 AM
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Dear News BITCH...............
Thanks for sniffing around.....But you won't find your answer HERE!
i think it be hilarious if every single person here logs on and views the case report just to generate more cr's for IAD. haha. give those hacks something to do.
I'm sorry this message is not about above topic. Tonight, I went out for pizza at Jullianis in Palos. A man in a wheel chair wheeled past us to use the restroom with his caretaker. His wife walked over too. She thanked us for moving our chairs so her husband could be wheeled by. She explained that he was a police officer shot in the line of duty. My father, a retired police officer pressed for more details. I was also intrigued. She told us his name is Bernie Domagala and he was shot in a hostage situation in 1988. He was shot in the head. The person who shot him was a former police officer. He is in a rehab facility in Carbondale. He was brought up here because the Chicago Cubs have asked him to throw out the first pitch tomorrow. When he was shot, he had 4 month old twins who are now 23 and a a 4year old son. After he was shot, his wife, Denise kept the family going. She was now responsible for raising her 3 children as well as taking care of her husband who was 37 years old at the time. Bernie is now 60 and was able to tell me about the day he was shot. Denise sang the praises of the Police Memorial Foundation. She did tell me that Bernie just recieved funding for his wheelchair by the finance department last week. Again, this police shooting took place in 1988. Bernie Domagala worked for gangs at the time and the shooting happened at 76th and Stony Island.It was an honour for me to meet Bernie Domagala. He is a true hero. This is Denise Domagala's email DKDOM53@comcast.net. She told me how her husband love to talk "police" Please drop him a line. We should make sure that he know WE NEVER FORGET.
Everyone was so happy to get Hillard back? He never gave slack and jacked up every suspension case on his desk. he's all about disciplining. His little red head sidekick kirby too.This has Hillard written all over it. anyone who thinks this is Rivera is an idiot.
But half the readers of this blog weren't here under hillard.
4/21/2011 12:11:00 AM
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I concur.
Compartmentalize reports and eliminate the ability to view them. But then again, look who's running this city and department.
If it pisses you off that much than do something about. Tail the people to be and video everything they do. Bound to find something.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Chrys Manny Otis said...
Misuse of department equipment?
Is that like using the take home car to ride out to the stables? Not CPD stables, no,no, the one near Huntley where a certain LT keeps her pony.
Gotta go, my stent is aching, and I gotta be at work by noon so I can take my early duck at 3. It's my friday, and double sgt day.
4/21/2011 01:44:00 AM
What about burkes and the treasurers cpd cars being used to take them to their vacation cottages in wisconsin with cpd officers oh sorry for the clouted it don't work like that jagoffs?
4/21/2011 10:53:00 AM
Burke is untouchable. Neely not so much. If Burke wanted 7 cars for each day of the week he would get it. Daley wants a detail plus car, who controls the purse? Burke. Case closed.
Burke is more powerful than Rahm at this point. The sooner Rahm realizes that, the better. Rahm better learn how to sing along with Burke when he croons Oh Danny Boy if he wants anything.
Rahm sat at the right hand of the president but it was Chicago politicians and connections that put Obama there.
Keep working hard for your 2% and totally impartial treatment.
Isn't there a box in CHRIS to make reports Confidential? Seems to me that if the Supervisors deemed this to be so super secret. They could have made it confidential somehow. I dont get it.
Anonymous said...
Even the districts honor this tradition.
You think last years attendance was bad (10-15)
people. Well honey, it will be you and the Commander.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I am retired now, but I was in organized crime for 17 years, on and off. I made almost every St. Jude for my entire time on the job. You have your head up your ass. Guys like you only go to get out of inspection, not for any other reason. And you want to get out of inspection because you don't have your uniform together, or don't want to put it on or bring it in. I know how good you have it there, so don't try to bullshit everyone. Get off your ass, and go to honor our dead, and their families. If you have to stand inspection, so be it. Maybe if the rest of your buddies down there went as well, the commander would not have to try to force people to go. If it were up to me, every single officer would be in uniform on that day, no trench coats, no silly hats, no sweaters, no long hair, no beards. Shave and get a haircut before you go. And don't try to tell me you need long hair and a beard to do your job. Maybe narcotics buy officers need to look scruffy, but that's it. You don't need a beard and long hair to sit in a wire room, or be on surveillance on the west side. Everyone out there knows exactly who you are.
Quit whining and get the fuck down to the lakefront on St. Jude Sunday.
4/21/2011 10:59:00 AM
Move the event back to Michigan Ave and I will return. BTW, why do you worry so much about haricutsa and face hair? Retirement must really suck for you. Get a hobby.
They can actually access your credit history through your department issued PC number. Everyone of you stupid MF'ers that looked up this case report will NEVER be able to obtain a mortgage again..... unless of course, you are a democrat and apply for one under Barney Frank's NEW Fannie-Mae account
I don't know who the 024th Dist Desk Sgt on days was,but it was all traced back to her/him. They gots lots of splain'in to do. The media is not your friend,they gave you up.
Cops are well known for being NOSY.. And CHEAP..
4/21/2011 03:15:00 PM
Would a shiny, new nickel change your mind?
I was just thinking the same thing about people running the spitting kid's background. You cannot be doing that shit in this day and age.
4/21/2011 07:44:00 AM
Again, why the hell not? Are reports classified as Top Secret with a need to know basis? They are police reports written in a police department by police officers. They are actually public record if one were to push the issue hard enough.
Don't let these idiots push you into a corner. They want to suppress information because they know it will lead to embarrassment of BOSSES and their idiotic antics that stem from political pressure and bullshit.
Now if you use that information to benefit yourself or leak information on a case that's still being investigated and somehow compromise the investigation, that's another story. Simply pulling up a report and reading it so you know what's going on and are able to more effectively do your job is not an issue.
You have no right to refuse a lawful order.
4/21/2011 07:48:00 AM
What makes the order lawful?
First of all, with S.P.A.R. forms your first line of appeal is with your unit CO.
Depending on the individual officer's discipline history, he could get 3 days.
As every access situation is different, I don't see how a blanket SPAR is sustainable. There are many reasons to have accessed those reports.
Tho if you are not in the investigation, it is harder to justify. The "if they didn't want you to look, why didn't they restrict it" argument doesn't fly.
I think what has the bosses upset about this is that they now realize that THEIR fuck-ups are no longer hidden.
I wonder how 1400 pc's and passwords were comprimised? Can they prove otherwise lol
How does IAD know that the listed officers accessed the reports "without justification"? Each officers' case is different.
Maybe a better approach would be for unit commanders to have a roll call training session about proper access of department records. Talk to each listed officer and ask why he looked at the records. That may be enough.
Does the accused have the right to request this be CR investigation? that would give the accused more rights and put the department through a lot more hoops.
All you guys who are whinning about these Spars knew you were wrong and might get jackpotted. You should be grateful. Missuing the Leads system is a felony and qualifies as official misconduct. Imagine 1300 officers being charged with felonies over this.
Instead of wasting time researching this stuff the IAD should start looking into its own.
How many more are living in the burbs like the one in records who got stripped last week for living in Park Ridge.
Oh I forgot-they are above general orders.
Quit whining and get the fuck down to the lakefront on St. Jude Sunday.
4/21/2011 10:59:00 AM
BS You went to save your spot. It always was the bosses parade. They use to brag to one another about unit attendance as a sign of control. The bosses don't respect you alive or dead.
Mike Meahler current Intel wannabe knew a few years ago that a PO forged his name to go to swat but did nothing. What would Mr.Jesus do no ethics
ASK CB in SWAT. No limit on official misconduct
***** Don't worry rahm has people reading the blog the house cleaning is coming*****
Anonymous Anonymous said...
does any one have more information on this if you do please provided more information.
4/21/2011 01:44:00 AM
What about burkes and the treasurers cpd cars being used to take them to their vacation cottages in wisconsin with cpd officers oh sorry for the clouted it don't work like that jagoffs?
4/21/2011 07:38:00 PM
"trolling,trolling,trolling,keep those news girls trolling"!
What the he'll kind of crap is this? Chicago - where we operate as if it's the 1800's. Ridiculous
it grows legs when the brain trust that initiated it is put on notice that it really isn't feasible to "investigate" 1,300+ individuals.
And seeing that said brain trust is comprised of a group of imbeciles, FOP needs to get in front of this pronto and let IAD know what time it is.
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Whoever thought this was a good idea is an imbecile. The appropriate way to handle this situation is: If it can be proven that an individual did in fact disseminate the report where it shouldn't have gone, discipline that person appropriately.
In the event well over 1,000 members accessed the information, this is a systemic problem, NOT one that should be addressed by the SPAR or any other normal disciplinary channels, including counseling. This needs to be addressed as a training issue, and PERHAPS, if necessary, a policy issue. (If the current order or policy is not clear, it should be changed.) Once the members are informed, or re-informed of the appropriateness of viewing and/or printing reports, discipline could be used if the policy is not followed! This is simple, but I think the problem is that someone may have actually given the report to the press (I don't know) and there might be a log/cr# and the person "conducting" the "investigation" is LAZY or STUPID and either couldn't think of any better way to handle it or just didn't want to be bothered conducting a real investigation... This ALL goes to LEADERSHIP again, and it is severely lacking on this department....
Please drop him a line. We should make sure that he know WE NEVER FORGET.
4/21/2011 08:34:00 PM
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I remember the day he was shot...a tragedy...
Can I just ask this simple question?
WHO GIVES A FUCK?
Really, who really gives a rat's fucking ass that 1300 members read and or printed a report? SO FUCKING WHAT! What exactly would happen tomorrow if someone in the crystal palace, oh I don’t know someone who had balls AND a brain said, “WHO GIVES A FUCK?” Someone who would say, “Hmmm, 1300 ran the report, huhhhh, that’s a lot of people.” And then bam, it was over. Nothing to see here folks, move along. As if our lives haven’t become so fucking petty with what we have to put up with every day, now this baby shit witch hunt. Do you really believe that 1300 people are gonna rule 14 themselves and say it was a training tool. No, they are gonna be truthful and say, “WHO GIVES A FUCK!” You don’t want me to read a report, then restrict it. Any Policeman out there should be able to read any report written. If it’s National Security, then restrict it, you have that capability. If there is a rat fuck cop feeding reports to the media then hunt that mother fucker. You don’t shoot a shotgun to kill one fly and you don’t spar 1300 cops to attempt to punish one asshole that is probably on some reporters payroll. To my Brothers and Sisters in Blue, Be safe and God Bless.
BS You went to save your spot. It always was the bosses parade. They use to brag to one another about unit attendance as a sign of control. The bosses don't respect you alive or dead.
4/21/2011 10:25:00 PM
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NO YOU are full of BS.. The bosses do not care how many attend. They are glad when officers do show up, but really, they don't discuss it amongst themselves. Where do you get these ideas???
St. Judes is to honor the fallen, NOTHING MORE...
What one officer knows every officer knows; SCOTUS!
ARRESTS ARE PUBLIC RECORD BS INVESTIGATIONS ARE NOT.
Sure am suprised iad / ipra and command retirned their wages, seniority and benefits during this leave of absents while the " work" this case.
They can't expend taxpayers funds on it; that would be treason and sedison.
Vkelpt!
Anonymous said...
All you guys who are whinning about these Spars knew you were wrong and might get jackpotted. You should be grateful. Missuing the Leads system is a felony and qualifies as official misconduct. Imagine 1300 officers being charged with felonies over this.
4/21/2011 10:15:00 PM
Gee, I didn't know you could access a case report using LEADS.
You're a jackass.
How can showing up at St. Jude's in CIVILLIAN DRESS legitimately excuse you from UNIFORM INSPECTION? If doing what you are REQUIRED to do only TWICE A YEAR (Spring & Winter) is such a burden that it would dissuade you from paying respect to your deceased brothers & sisters (although I see no connection between one with the other) then I suspect that you are motivated by other issues.
I agree that SOMEONE doesn't know how it works due to being "taken care of" with inside positions their entire career.
-Commander 192
All you guys who are whinning about these Spars knew you were wrong and might get jackpotted. You should be grateful. Missuing the Leads system is a felony and qualifies as official misconduct. Imagine 1300 officers being charged with felonies over this.
4/21/2011 10:15:00 PM
You are a complete idiot. They used a department system to read a department report. They didn't use LEADS, moron.
Now go get your shine box and your recruit notebook, because you obviously don't know your fucking job.
And as far as the domagala incident.... A Sheriff was serving the former police officer in that incident. It was John knight before he was cpd. The kids on this job should never forget these people. They are all too worried about themselves now a days. We are all blue!!!
Anonymous said...
All you guys who are whinning about these Spars knew you were wrong and might get jackpotted. You should be grateful. Missuing the Leads system is a felony and qualifies as official misconduct. Imagine 1300 officers being charged with felonies over this.
4/21/2011 10:15:00 PM
Hey duech bag, the info was not on leads. It was on chris, or through the clear system. Stupid MF'er
they should change the computer access policy. from now on you need supervisor approval to go into your department accounts. that way when they try to stick it in your ass, your defense is that it was approved by a boss. if they don't trust us then implement this policy...........not ! I didn't think so
the department needs to implement software that flags certain files as a need to know basis, just like the military and the fed does. If not, then we are all privy to same info. put that in your 35th street pipe and smoke it !
Seiser, help us!
NO YOU are full of BS.. The bosses do not care how many attend. They are glad when officers do show up, but really, they don't discuss it amongst themselves. Where do you get these ideas???
St. Judes is to honor the fallen, NOTHING MORE...
4/21/2011 11:45:00 PM
How sweet, that we have someone SO naive on the job.
you want to demonstrate solidarity amongst your brethren in blue, stop threatening blue flu and standing by when bulls championships burn this city to the ground, you all know that wont happen. instead, go to work today, log in, and run that case report. every single cop in this city should unite and run that case report, let them generate 13000 spars.
Completely off topic BUT, after reading the things written on this blog, I can't help but to wonder WHAT IN THE WORLD would happen if all of you were stuck in the same room for a whole day haha...God bless
Anonymous said...
BS You went to save your spot. It always was the bosses parade. They use to brag to one another about unit attendance as a sign of control. The bosses don't respect you alive or dead.
4/21/2011 10:25:00 PM
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NO YOU are full of BS.. The bosses do not care how many attend. They are glad when officers do show up, but really, they don't discuss it amongst themselves. Where do you get these ideas???
St. Judes is to honor the fallen, NOTHING MORE...
4/21/2011 11:45:00 PM
Move the St. Jude parade back to Michigan Ave and continue the scared tradition. Why hide behind soldier field? It was a proud moment to march down the premier street of this city.
Commander 192 said...
How can showing up at St. Jude's in CIVILLIAN DRESS legitimately excuse you from UNIFORM INSPECTION? If doing what you are REQUIRED to do only TWICE A YEAR (Spring & Winter) is such a burden that it would dissuade you from paying respect to your deceased brothers & sisters (although I see no connection between one with the other) then I suspect that you are motivated by other issues.
I agree that SOMEONE doesn't know how it works due to being "taken care of" with inside positions their entire career.
-Commander 192
4/22/2011 12:05:00 AM
Mes thinks you are missing the point, because I don't know what the hell you just said.
Nobody cares about standing up for two uniform inspections a year. Everybody hates being forced to go to St. Jude because of commanders' threat (or commander's secretary threats) to make you stand inspection if you don't show up. Its blackmail and that takes away the real reason of why we want to go - for us and them, not for you.
And please tell your pit bull to change her lipstick color. Have another nice day in your coveted position, oh deserved one.
Completely off topic BUT, after reading the things written on this blog, I can't help but to wonder WHAT IN THE WORLD would happen if all of you were stuck in the same room for a whole day haha...God bless
4/22/2011 02:44:00 AM
Not what you think. We'd have a few, we'd entertain each other with war stories and we'd renew old acquaintances. You don't really know who or what we are at all.
Anonymous said...
the department needs to implement software that flags certain files as a need to know basis, just like the military and the fed does. If not, then we are all privy to same info. put that in your 35th street pipe and smoke it !
4/22/2011 01:21:00 AM
It already exists.
Watch out new trend taxing the police. If the city gives all 1300 a day that's about 500k the city just put away.
Quit whining and get the fuck down to the lakefront on St. Jude Sunday.
4/21/2011 10:59:00 AM
March with another District or Unit, I've done it before. Don't like the boss, tough shit. March for the dead, not your boss anyway.
Just an excuse to be lazy and make yourself feel noble. I didn't like my boss so I didn't go.
Don't worry rahm has people reading the blog the house cleaning is coming*****
4/21/2011 10:47:00 PM
I hope you are telling the truth. If it is the truth, we are safe from having Kirby as the new boss.
Can anyone tell me why the Commander of 192's secretary is allowed to make decisions.
Last time we checked a Sgt. and above is a higher
Rank than her.
Thanks for screwing us over!
You can't really believe that everyone will
Show up to St. Jude and also stand inspection
2 days later.
I've been in unit for a long time and the 1st reason
people go to St. Jude is to pay their respect however
for decades the bosses have used the attendance
there to count for Spring Inspection.
Even the districts honor this tradition.
You think last years attendance was bad (10-15)
people.
Secretary = eyes and ears for the boss. Deal with it!
You have been in the unit a long time = time to move on! A unit that was without a commander for a long time. Now you are being held accountable. Now you must do things like the rest of the Department!! Cry me a frickin river! How did you get that spot? Have you been there so long you don't remember who made that phone call??
Obviously your first reason for attending is not to honor our fallen Brothers & Sisters. I worked a unit that only cared that I had my ID's, shiny shoes and black socks. They didn't understand or care about St Jude's so, I dressed and walked with my old district. St Jude's is the one selfless act the Department asks of you and it is the least you can do. It is not about uniform inspection, which was added as an incentive only to increase attendance. And shame on us for needing an incentive.
I'm sure your CO was very proud of the 10 or 15 officers who attended. Taking time away from family (and sleep for many) to pay their respects. He also had to wonder, where the hell are the rest of my guys!
I recently met the brother of an officer killed years ago in 010. He spoke with great emotion about attending St Jude's and seeing so many officers marching and remembering those gone. He didn't know or care about uniform inspection and neither should you. There should be 100% attendance.
Stop your whining, march in St Jude's, stand inspection AND be grateful you are able to march and not one of those being remembered.
Completely off topic BUT, after reading the things written on this blog, I can't help but to wonder WHAT IN THE WORLD would happen if all of you were stuck in the same room for a whole day haha...God bless
4/22/2011 02:44:00 AM
that depends.
would you be there?
How sweet, that we have someone SO naive on the job.
4/22/2011 01:36:00 AM
someone's gotta be the canary.
With the talk about a "blue flu" or a strike or not honoring your dead and wounded on St. Jude's Sunday, you disrespect your oath and your star. People who talk like this truely do not have the calling, and the calling is what is needed to be a good police officer. You might think this is bullshit, but I believe the vast majority of the department feel the same as I do. I will leave out the malcontents who use this blog and bitch about everything and insult their fellow officers that they do not agree with. If you want to truely show your displeasure with department decisions and the failure of your exempts to back you, then do not attend any parties for any exempts under any circumstances! But, you know that will not happen. Too many of you buy those expensive tickets to see and be seen with the hope it will help your career. Exempts should be honored at the same annual parties as the rest of the department. If the exempt wants to throw a party for themselves, then they should buy the tickets, not you. Fools, all of you!! Use the FOP to improve your working conditions. Talk of letting the city burn will not garner public support.
NO YOU are full of BS.. The bosses do not care how many attend. They are glad when officers do show up, but really, they don't discuss it amongst themselves. Where do you get these ideas???
St. Judes is to honor the fallen, NOTHING MORE...
4/21/2011 11:45:00 PM
That's the cover story. What's your date of appointment.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
you want to demonstrate solidarity amongst your brethren in blue, stop threatening blue flu and standing by when bulls championships burn this city to the ground, you all know that wont happen. instead, go to work today, log in, and run that case report. every single cop in this city should unite and run that case report, let them generate 13000 spars.
4/22/2011 02:18:00 AM
13,000 more like 10,500 we are that short!
Why didn't the authors of said reports just hit the "Confidential" button on CHRIS if this was so serious? WTF?
Once again, how in the hell is it in any way inappropriate to read reports that are generated within the department?
You people who think that access should be limited are complete idiots. Fools like you turn us into slaves within our own department with your subservient bullshit.
every single cop in this city should unite and run that case report, let them generate 13000 spars.
It would never happen. We are to ball less and dont stick together. I agree though....It would be funnier then hell if we all opened it up!
"NO YOU are full of BS.. The bosses do not care how many attend. They are glad when officers do show up, but really, they don't discuss it amongst themselves. Where do you get these ideas???
St. Judes is to honor the fallen, NOTHING MORE..."
You couldn't be more WRONG!
1300 crs just goes to show that the Department mentality of being numbers oriented extends to IAD as well. They just issued 1300 parkers or movers or bus checks or whatever piddly activity you want to compare it to. The department has the ability to restrict access to certain reports, they should have in this case and probably in any police officer as the offender matter. Despite their failure to do so and the witch hunt that has followed, those that printed this out should have listened to that little voice in the back of their head that sounds like Chris Rock and says "man, I wouldn't do that shit if I was you!" It could be looked at the first step in dissemination of the information, even if you are just sharing it with your fellow cops. Somebody who is reading that report might dissmeinate it futher if you forget to get it back and now your info is on there!
To answer you spar, just say that you were attempting to access HT-225704 but you got the numbers mixed up... or HT-252704, or... Might work.
Also, I would like someone to tell me which case reports and arrest reports I can access, so that I don't get in trouble. Shouldn't I be reading case reports and arrest reports just to know what is going on in the city I work in? Isn't it good to stay informed? Can somebody please come out with a General Order that tells me this! Please!
I know one Commander who doesn't care if you show up. K.R., he has been the Commander for three years and hasn't had a brunch yet. Even T.W. had brunch.
"You don’t shoot a shotgun to kill one fly and you don’t spar 1300 cops to attempt to punish one asshole that is probably on some reporters payroll."
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KIRBY DOES !!!!!!!!!!
there are many that have each others PC#'s and use them and their related passwords for CPD reports. Some have ENTIRE lists of almost everyone in their Unit. This could be checked by all the different PC#s signed in from the SAME Computer, over and over, and who uses same almost every day.
PC's and P/W's haven't been changed in probably 10 years.. So how can the CPD brass say that the officer who allegedly looked up reports really did, or was their PC & P/W used by someone else ?
I am retired now and this blog was a way to stay connected with my police brothers. I would read this blog to read about the funny things we would share. I would read this blog to read comments of support in sad times, and trying times. Now you read this thing and all I read are comments full of venom used to attack each other. Comment like wheel gunners, hair gels, clout babies all with the intent to harm the other; this division is of our own creation. All you can find are comments on how I got screwed out of a promotion, plum assignment, a raise and how every boss is out to get us. Some how we feel that the world owes us something and we are special and entitled. I spent 31 years in a blue shirt and I am grateful for the friends and that I was able to retire banged up but in one peice. The new mayor will not have to divide this department before he attempts to conquer because we have done it for him. The media reads these comments and must salivate in our weakness. Bunker down together against those who wish us harm and stop attacking each other. It's a shame. SCC thank you for giving the us a voice and a place to vent.
Why only 1300 spars. Every copper should print out a copy of that arrest / case report. We would like 12,000 spars please.
The C.P.D. was a much better place when the job required balls, not college degrees.
This is the best response for all those that ran the report - how could you be sparred when we were encouraged in the academy to read reports so we can learn how to write reports. This was a good report to learn from. Anyway, So what! We ran a report and read it. This report shouldn't be hidden - it should be shown to all. You shouldnt be doing Stupid shit like this while on duty.
Well there goes my career...LOL...
Just add it to the over 40 CR#'s, 2 Lawsuits, 2 other SPARS, and 1 Mayoral Beef I got...not to mention a few counselings or admonishments along the way...
3 bars
FOP Response To Accessing Department Reports SPAR
As of today the Lodge has fielded several calls regarding the accessing of police reports through the Department's internal website. It is our understanding that the Department has requested discipline in the form of a SPAR against some Department members who "accessed and printed" police reports regarding a recent Department investigation.
It is the position of the Lodge that such action, in and of itself, is not a "Misuse of Department Equipment/Supplies." The Department has the internal capability to block access to sensitive reports through the CHRIS system and the Lodge assumes it would have done so if it did not want Department members to view such information. In that the Department did not take any of the preventive measures available to it in such a high profile media case, nor did it issue any type of directive prohibiting access, the Lodge assumes that the failure to do so was tacit permission for officers to access and view this information in conformity with G.O. 98-07-04a.
Absent an internal investigation which would reveal that such information was used for "personal or other reasons" under G.O. 98-07-04a, access and review of such reports does not violate Department policy. General Order 98-07 states, "Members who access information through a Departmental computerized information system will be held responsible should such information be used in violation of the law and /or Departmental rules and regulations." If a Department member violated General Order 98-07 or Department Rules and Regulations (Rule 41) by disseminating such information to a media outlet, the Department should launch an internal investigation into the matter. It should not issue arbitrary blanket discipline to Department members.
While it is clear that the Department intends to issue SPAR forms regarding this matter, what is not clear is the severity of the punishment. We would remind the Department that SPARs are intended as a vehicle to teach, not discipline. Any potential discipline should be progressive. We advise the members to call the Lodge with any questions or concerns and will monitor any information as it becomes available.
Completely off topic BUT, after reading the things written on this blog, I can't help but to wonder WHAT IN THE WORLD would happen if all of you were stuck in the same room for a whole day haha...God bless
4/22/2011 02:44:00 AM
OMG! Now that was funny. If that ever happened I would love to be there and watch. LMAO!
Secretary of Unit 192 said......
I love my job. I make all decisions for the Commander, I make mistakes and blame them on other people, and I take 10-20 cigarette breaks a day. There's no way in hell I can get away with this in 022.
Can anyone tell me why the Commander of 192's secretary is allowed to make decisions.
Last time we checked a Sgt. and above is a higher
Rank than her.
Thanks for screwing us over!
You can't really believe that everyone will
Show up to St. Jude and also stand inspection
2 days later.
I've been in unit for a long time and the 1st reason
people go to St. Jude is to pay their respect however
for decades the bosses have used the attendance
there to count for Spring Inspection.
Even the districts honor this tradition.
You think last years attendance was bad (10-15)
.....I don't think attending the St.Jude parade is the complaint made by the above blogger. It's the complaint on the CO secretary. I don't think anyone likes her because she believes she is never wrong. She decided to pick the dates when furlough picks were to be conducted. Outside the designated week specified on the furlough pick order. When people approached her and told her she was wrong she would blame it on the CO saying that it's his decision and thatvwe are all wrong anyway.
Talk of letting the city burn will not garner public support.
4/22/2011 08:53:00 AM
talk, no.
walk, yes.
even an avowed atheist pleads for the Lord's help, when the scent of death is near.
The new mayor will not have to divide this department before he attempts to conquer because we have done it for him. The media reads these comments and must salivate in our weakness. Bunker down together against those who wish us harm and stop attacking each other. It's a shame. SCC thank you for giving us a voice and a place to vent.
4/22/2011 03:03:00 PM
To whoever wrote the above:
THANK YOU! for succinctly stating what needed to be said. Yes, this blog is a great place to share information and also to "vent," but all the comments that state "F-you" and related hate: this does not help us, either individually, or as a group. At the risk of offending someone, I dare to quote Christ, the Master Teacher Himself, who said, "what is that to thee...follow thou me!" (St. John), which means, "do not be concerned with what others do...obey my commandments--follow God's Laws and live a life of Love and Integrity--and all will be well with you!" So, do your job as a patrolman with honor, and worry not about the poor decisions and actions of others (fellow patrolmen, as well as supervisors and those who are promoted on 'clout'). Follow your heart, do the right thing, be cautious of course, in this environment-- and God's Law will protect you. I proudly work a beat car everyday - I will be doing this until I retire - and I have no animosity towards others who have a different experience in the CPD. When my mortal body dies and I go Home to meet my Maker, I will be judged only by my actions and intentions, not what any other person in the Universe has done.
It is time for us to stick together and act as one family, as CPD patrol has historically done in the distant past.
I am writing this as an expression, and exercise of my First Amendment Rights under the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, I am NOT signing off as "Anonymous."
Sincerely,
P.O. Randy Stevens
District 018, 2nd Watch
Whatever your opinion is on St. Jude, Its the right thing to go march in it. Those of you that refuse to spite your bosses are morons, and I dont want you there. Some of us were close to coppers who died in the line of duty, and thats what I will be thinking about...Do you think the families of the dead give a damn YOU think it is about? NO, you are as much of an egocentric ass, as you describe your boss, not to mention you are so self-righteous, that you think you can do a better job than anyone at everything. Get a grip, and stop acting like a defiant teenager.
I CALL BULLSHIT!!!
Read the letter carefully...
WHOEVER wrote the letter that is posted was NOT written by the best or the brightest.
Certainly NOT an attorney that would know how to jackpot 1300 coppers into a SPAR.
there are many that have each others PC#'s and use them and their related passwords for CPD reports. Some have ENTIRE lists of almost everyone in their Unit. This could be checked by all the different PC#s signed in from the SAME Computer, over and over, and who uses same almost every day.
PC's and P/W's haven't been changed in probably 10 years.. So how can the CPD brass say that the officer who allegedly looked up reports really did, or was their PC & P/W used by someone else ?
4/22/2011 02:35:00 PM
You are not supposed to give your password to others so that excuse wont fly.
Anonymous said...
Whatever your opinion is on St. Jude, Its the right thing to go march in it. Those of you that refuse to spite your bosses are morons, and I dont want you there. Some of us were close to coppers who died in the line of duty, and thats what I will be thinking about...Do you think the families of the dead give a damn YOU think it is about? NO, you are as much of an egocentric ass, as you describe your boss, not to mention you are so self-righteous, that you think you can do a better job than anyone at everything. Get a grip, and stop acting like a defiant teenager.
4/22/2011 08:13:00 PM
Move St. Jude back to Michigan Ave and continue the tradition. Instead they hide the parade from the public. It is called respect. Let us march on the most prominent street in the city to show our pride and concern.
This is why I never used JABS. Look up something wrong and the feds come knockin.
6:04:
Sacred tradition, not scared tradition!
Use spell check or dictionary.com!
Amen Randy Stevens............ AMEN!
Anonymous said...
I CALL BULLSHIT!!!
Read the letter carefully...
WHOEVER wrote the letter that is posted was NOT written by the best or the brightest.
Certainly NOT an attorney that would know how to jackpot 1300 coppers into a SPAR.
4/22/2011 09:21:00 PM
Must of been written by Deb Kirby then!! LOL
Do you really think that someone who has made it as far as a commander not by merit, really has a secretary think for them ? Im telling you you must put the crack pipe down! Everybody here can see that you have a problem with his secretary but can't do shit about it. You must go on hiding behind this blog being ball less, to just put someone down and complain just cause you don't get your way. Mumbles.
Whatever your opinion is on St. Jude, Its the right thing to go march in it. Those of you that refuse to spite your bosses are morons, and I dont want you there. Some of us were close to coppers who died in the line of duty, and thats what I will be thinking about...Do you think the families of the dead give a damn YOU think it is about? NO, you are as much of an egocentric ass, as you describe your boss, not to mention you are so self-righteous, that you think you can do a better job than anyone at everything. Get a grip, and stop acting like a defiant teenager.
Dude take a chill pill...
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