Dig Deeper
As the revenue from red-light cameras continues to flatten and even decline, Rahm's looking to squeeze more money from drivers - or at least, car owners:
- Bigger swathes of Chicago could wind up on video cameras under anti-speeding legislation that passed the Illinois Senate on Wednesday.
The proposal, which passed 32-24 and now moves to the House, is being sought by Mayor Rahm Emanuel to help nab speeders around city schools and parks. The measure applies only to Chicago.
“We have in Chicago a pedestrian fatality rate that’s 68 percent higher than in New York City, and we do lose a number of young children in these crashes in the city of Chicago,” said Senate President John Cullerton (D-Chicago), the bill’s chief Senate sponsor.
We'd really really like to see the statistical evidence for the speed cameras and the numbers floated around by politicians.
In a WBBM story, a reporter throws out this stat:
In a WBBM story, a reporter throws out this stat:
- ...approximately 84 percent of all pedestrian accidents in Chicago happen within a quarter mile of parks and schools.
This covers something like 60% of the landmass of Chicago and just happens to be areas where kids congregate, so it's going to be skewed. This reminds us of the "within a 1,000 feet of school/church PCS charge that covers something like 80% of Chicago and makes it all but impossible to avoid enhanced charges in the city.
In the same story, they quote a doctor:
In the same story, they quote a doctor:
“We routinely see hundreds of kids a year hit by cars,” said Dr. Sally Reynolds, director of the emergency department at Children’s Memorial Hospital.
Sure you do - you're a hospital specializing in children. But Children's Memorial treats kids from the suburbs, downstate, and even out-of-state. Can we see the break down of Chicago kids treated who got hit in school zones? We're almost positive it will be a miniscule number. If we had hundreds of kids being struck by cars in school zones, we would have been redeployed there years ago and the headlines would have been screaming about the carnage in the streets. The media won't even cover the existing bloodbath in the minority communities of hundreds of gunfire deaths a year, but we're expected to believe hundred of kids are run over in school zones due to speeders?
Anyone want to bet the small number of kids hit by cars are as follows:
Anyone want to bet the small number of kids hit by cars are as follows:
- unattended children -
- crossing away from designated crosswalks -
- out of sight of crossing guards -
- darting out from between parked vehicles -
- or negligent parents running over kids while backing up
But Rahm needs his $100. It's all for the children you know.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
77 Comments:
These cameras were proven to be rigged and the city admitted they were rigged to snap photos seconds before the alotted time. And now Madigan and his asshole buddy thieves want more of this bulllshit. They have to collect more money each year to make up for monies stolen each year.
"It's all for the children you know."
If you're not "for" the children, you must be "against" them, is how these idiots want to spin this.
If the tickets are only issued "on school days when children are present" (the only time the school speed limit is in effect), maybe it won't be so bad, but you know damn well this is a test bed and will soon be on other streets.
Most people don't realize that the speed limit on city streets is 30 mph, unless otherwise posted.
What the citizens supporting this measure don't realize is that it's the vehicle's owner that gets the ticket, not necessarily the speeder.
So when you lend Billy Bob the car and receive a ticket in the mail two months later, it's on you, not Billy Bob.
Even if you protest the ticket, you don't go before a real judge, you appear before some city-bought-and-paid-for "administrative law judge" or some such title.
This person isn't a judge at all but a city apparatchik who is on the city payroll and in whose best interest it is to find a majority liable (note that your "liable" and not "guilty") for these offenses.
So when you refuse to pay the ticket, Billy Bob's not getting his license suspended, you are.
Happy Motoring!
That's it, I'm taking the plates off my car! Good luck with sending me my tickets for going 21mph in a school zone.
The speed cameras are coming. Welcome to the Communist, People's Republic of the City of Chicago. The only way to get around this is: BUDGET EXTRA TIME for any time you need to use your car to get around, and drive 2-3 miles UNDER the speed limit. That way, the cameras can't "get you." Change your driving habits to 27 mph (not in a school zone, otherwise, lower still), it will seem strange at first, life going in slow motion, but you WILL get used to it. If some antsy driver wants to tailgate you to get you to speed, let them hit you, then SUE the crap out of them.
Rahm needs to turn the Chicago City Budget from hundreds of millions of dollars in the red, into a surplus, in ONE TERM, so he can run for U.S. President in 2016. He will tell America, "I inherited a hudge fiscal crisis in Chicago in 2011, and performed miracles with my incredible genious, all in 4 short years...just IMAGINE what I can do to save America!" Rahm may very well be our NEXT PRESIDENT. May God help us!
Don't forget that these cameras stream video constantly, so whatever you do, don't throw eggs (or feces for that matter) at them, even though it's not CDTP (because it washes off, isn't that CPD's policy for Halloween eggs?).
Happy Halloween!
oh yes of course... its about safety... yeah, ok. Obviously its all about money and only money.
Since when did Chicago kids start going to school? Southside is up for grabs.
27% of the people exceed the speed limit in Chicago therefore all kids involved in an auto accidents are due to speeding..
#FAIL#
Hey, we should put all the police officers back inside the schools too if we really want to follow the:
"..if it saves the life of just one child then isn't it worth it?"
methodology.
Looks like its time to bahbye to cullerton and madigan on the next illinois senate/congressional elections. They have to GO! Over 25 years of their mismanagement is enough! Place your vote on the side of the challenger, these asshats have wrecked the illinois economy, the working middleclass, all while becoming millionaires. If the FOP, CFD, teachers, cta, afscme, and trade unions dont stick together and make sure our leadership dont sell us out, The Working MiddleClass will be a distant memory. We will be the generation that will leave our children worst off then our great grandparents generation.
Rent the movie 1984 if you never saw it. A Total Surveillance Society
With traffic enforcement of speeding non existent in this city this is neccessary. If someone could offer one good argument of why you need to speed on side streets especially in a school zone id love to hear it. Yeah its a total money maker but oh well. easy solution dont speed.
Wasn't that declared unconstitutuional in another state already?
Found it laughable that Racoon Eyes puts McGruff and CPS Island Boy in front of the media to express their support for school area/park speeding cameras. For sure neither one of these assholes will get stuck with a $100 ticket. Both of these bottom feeders have drivers/armed secuirty 24/7. The rest of us who are not connected will pay dearly for just driving in this cesspool city. This country is in the grips of the worst economic downturns since the Great Depression and all these moronic fuckers do is keep raising taxes and screwing us with more cameras. The only camera I ever want to see is the one the doctor puts up my ass when I get a colonoscopy.
Why is this camera legislation ONLY for Chicago? Shouldn't this great law benefit the entire state. There are schools and parks outside of Chicago. Fact is this law wouldn't have a chance if it applied to the entire state. I noticed the Senate only gave it 32 votes. Asshole Cullerton will have to buy...I mean...find 5 more votes to keep it veto proof. I can only hope Quinn trash this piece of shit bill.
"...approximately 84 percent of all pedestrian accidents in Chicago happen within a quarter mile of parks and schools."
Further research by Mayor Beetlejuice shows 93% of all pedestrian accidents happen within a quarter mile of a sidewalk.
it's getting deep, pull out the fishing waders. Rahm is such a freaking liar. it's not about public safety, it's about the children; it's about the money. Big brother is already bad enough. just hire more police and the police and the million speed bumps already in place will take care of the speeders.
In my almost 20 years on, I've never had a call of a child struck by a car. Kids shot, yes. But struck by a vehicle, no.
If it's not about the money then fines should go directly to the school the in which the ticket was written.
In 2010 seventy-four
children (1 sec. to 18 yrs.) were shot to death in Chicago. During the same period, 32 persons of all ages were killed in pedestrian-vehicle accidents.
http://www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?dsrcid=385672
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/traffic/ct-met-getting-around-0815-20110815,0,4319281,full.column
Will you guys thoughtfully look the other way if you happen upon citizens destroying these cameras?
I'd love to know their specifications (type of glass, thickness of pole, power supply, schematic of their electronics and if they are shielded or not..)
So when you lend Billy Bob the car and receive a ticket in the mail two months later, it's on you, not Billy Bob.
Two months?
Try 2 hours.
Once the camera snaps the photo, the plate number will automatically get run. When that info is retrieved, the system will print out the ticket and the city will Fed Ex it to you. Shipping charges to be included.
I think if we can get the Cullerton family DUI numbers down first it would be a safer place for the children.
Send one up Northwest
Cover your license plates when you're driving and remove the covers when you park. They're still going to need the police to enforce the obstructed plates and I doubt too many police care anymore.
Every time these maggots say, "It's for the children", I want to slap the taste out of their mouths.
I argued some time back on the blog about all the cul-de-sacs and one way streets near 111th and Kedzie and the argument used against me was "its for the children." I told them we don't have a big problem with children being hit by cars in the neighborhood and that they should watch their kids. They went off on me. Lets see if they rear their hypocritical heads when it comes to their pocketbooks. After all, its for the children...
As a suburban woman who drives Division, Chicago, and Augusta to/from Oak Park daytimes, I've witnessed numerous instances of pedestrians playing "chicken" with traffic - kids and adults delierately walking directly towards moving vehicles as if daring car to hit them. I don't see any speeders, probably because of high likelihood of random jay-walkers. Speed cameras aren't going to address this problem. These routes beat Eisenhower times, but require a degree of wariness.
In my almost 20 years on, I've never had a call of a child struck by a car. Kids shot, yes. But struck by a vehicle, no.
10/27/2011 04:18:00 AM
Three decades and I've had two. One kid ran against the light with a crossing guard there, the other was out w/ parent at 2:00a.m.. IF THERE HAD ONLY BEEN A REVENUE ENHANCEMENT CAMERA THERE.
As a long time reader of your blog, wasn't it standard procedure to have squads present at schools during openings and especially closings "For the safety of the children"? Just so it wasn't too easy for the thugs to continually blast away at adversaries.
I'd hate to see "To serve and tax" be put on the sides of squads.
Da Rah is really pushing using the CTA. He will eventually will ask to have these put on any street a senior citizen lives on. CROOK!
When all of these cameras are on south and west side streets maybe they can be gun shot reactive also. Is there not a fine for discharging a firearm inside the Shitty. CROOKRAH!
I would have to say that 95% of statistics are made up on the spot 75% of the time.
Ok, I am gonna sell 2 of my vehicles (to out of state drivers so the city doesnt get any money from them registering), and buy me an electric or gasoline powered bicycle. Thank yourself Rham for the less tax revenue from me for stickers, parking fees, and auto parts!
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING, and TAXING YOUR ASS
Amazing. layoffs, no jobs, foreclosures. Bleed the public dry. Make them pay. Double water bills, increase taxes, double city stickers,enforcing dog licenses, I want to know when the air we breath is going o be taxed. I SAY WE TAKE A STAND AND SAY FUCK YOU!
Great, another reason, besides high parking rates, to absolutely avoid visiting Chicago at all....good job driving down revenue to your businesses.....Dems are and will always be idiots.
OK, The speed cameras are coming. Let the new money coming to the city go to the pension funds that are so underfunded.
Steger has been terrorizing drivers with their radar trailer next to a school zone on Dixie Hwy. The trailer erroneously flashes 20 mph day and night, as nobody is bothering to monitor or time it with the actual school zone flashing signals.
With the illegals and ghetto rats zig zagging through traffic already, it's a hazard that's bound to cause an accident, rather than preventing one.
Hope Quinn vetoes this.
But at the very least the speeding ticket money should keep the libraries staffed and open.
“We have in Chicago a pedestrian fatality rate that’s 68 percent higher than in New York City, and we do lose a number of young children in these crashes in the city of Chicago,” said Senate President John Cullerton (D-Chicago), the bill’s chief Senate sponsor.
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But it's also a sanctuary city, and the percentage of drivers without liscenses is high too. Go to traffic court downtown and watch how many cases are thrown out with impunity. The number of people here that have no business driving is incredible
Wasn't that declared unconstitutuional in another state already?
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Very astute reader. B I N G O!!!
Further research by Mayor Beetlejuice shows 93% of all pedestrian accidents happen within a quarter mile of a sidewalk.
10/27/2011 02:14:00 AM
LOL....
Further research shows 99% of people with a scense of humor, thinks that LOL funny!
Now the seniors will be getting tickets for not shoveling the snow on the public sidewalk next to their property. They retain the option to shovel the snow and risk the $700 ambulance fee though
Of course, there's another option: don't exceed the speed limit. Then the cameras are irrelevant, yes?
Fuck it this is cool!
remember for "off road use only," show vehicles,and if your taking the occasional trip down a dirt road you don't want your precious plates dirty!
http://www.speedflip.com/
http://www.flipplate.com/
Anonymous said...
That's it, I'm taking the plates off my car! Good luck with sending me my tickets for going 21mph in a school zone.
10/27/2011 12:19:00 AM
Me too. Good luck trying to catch a picture of my VIN. Then if I ever do get pulled over, "Sorry office, I was on my way to Pep boys now to replace the 'ol screw that fell off". Ha ha up yours City of Chicago
yeah and what kind of back door deal is going to take place and who gets the contract? mo money in Rahms pockets and wasted tax payers money for the equipment. this is a joke.
maybe john cullerton should tell jessie white to stop selling license plates to people who cannot provide a valid drivers license--- maybe the state of illinois should kick out all the insurance companies who sell vehicle insurance to people without a drivers license--- safety initiative my ass, it's just another money grab by rahmbo and that cast of crooks down in springfield....
Anonymous said...
Looks like its time to bahbye to cullerton and madigan on the next illinois senate/congressional elections. They have to GO! Over 25 years of their mismanagement is enough! Place your vote on the side of the challenger, these asshats have wrecked the illinois economy, the working middleclass, all while becoming millionaires. If the FOP, CFD, teachers, cta, afscme, and trade unions dont stick together and make sure our leadership dont sell us out, The Working MiddleClass will be a distant memory. We will be the generation that will leave our children worst off then our great grandparents generation.
10/27/2011 12:38:00 AM
I keep hearing the same message here about sticking together to vote. How many city employees skipped the mayor's election? A very high precentage of city employees ignored voting and who supported Rahm? The democrats. Teachers, fire and police union did not support Rahm and he won without them. We have no voting power.
Rent the movie 1984 if you never saw it. A Total Surveillance Society
10/27/2011 12:42:00 AM
Or you can read the book. The book is alot better. George Orwell is one smart motherfucker. By the way he wrote it in 1948
"Never let a good crisis go to waste"
--- Rahm Emmanuel
When you speed up a little bit to avoid your rear plate being snapped by camera cuz the yellow lites are getting shorter every day, if you go over that speed limit by 1 mph, will it now be a double bagger for red light and speeding, and if Rahm is having an exceptionally lucky day maybe the trifecta if the camera catches you with more than one city sticker on the windshield. Residency will be forever, no raise, useless union, the job and its extra special perk of living in the city, gets better by the day.
and now ald. tulley wants ward bosses to travel the hoods with blackberry cameras to take pictures of peoples property that do not shovel their sidewalk so that we can automatically mail them yet another $100 dollar city ordinance fine!
He discounts the enforcement of the law as no big deal that he's not doing anything hurtful. Why the law has always been there. Why are these people so upset he comes across on the radio as being astonished.
Do we look THAT stupid mr. tulley? Seriously..I mean seriously?
Hey...there's a law on illegal immigrants let's enforce that to and show respect for THAT law.
You political hacks increase our state income tax 66% you increase the city vehicle tax and you double the water bills. Property taxes are higher and wages are still falling along with the number of jobs.
We're blowing city resource on people that want to sit in a park past curfew and in the same breath turn out known illegal immigrant felons on the street because they cost too much to hold for the Feds to deport. We are going to ticket the pot smokers and the people that want to sit in the park we are going to jail for a taxpayer cost of $145/day to do it.
Are YOU people out of your minds?
Meanwhile it's more tax breaks for the CME, Sears and the rest of your corporate campaign war chest contribution friends.
Tax the middle class use the schools, the children and the CPD and CFD as your tools to elicit sympathy to win the hearts and money for middle class tax increases and preach from the "corporations will leave and take their jobs with if not given even more tax break" extortion.
We are going to have a general strike soon, like Oakland. You can bookmark this post. City hall doesn't get it.
keep it coming boys -- just seen another group headed over the Federal building this afternoon
No probable cause No complaining (BIOLOGICAL) witness and no due process!
It won't last long bit for RAHM and PAT it's a interest free loan? Wait! If we don't stop them they will steal the interest too.
The operation will be layed for with taxes. The administration will be layed for with taxes.
THE PENALTIES AND DEFENCE OF THE CROOKS WILL ALSO BE PAID FOR BY GUESS WHO.
Lets join the protesters on our half days off and help them keep on point. But then none but US will get HURT?
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hey scc how about rahm make these cyclists start paying up. the city should make it mandatory for some form of registration to be affixed to the rear of the bicycle. these cyclists hardly adhere to the traffic code that us drivers have to abide by. i wonder if an idiot cyclist goes thru a red light and if the camera catches it, if the city sends the idiot cyclist a 100 dollar ticket. i highly doubt that
In my almost 20 years on, I've never had a call of a child struck by a car. Kids shot, yes. But struck by a vehicle, no.
10/27/2011 04:18:00 AM
Three decades and I've had two. One kid ran against the light with a crossing guard there, the other was out w/ parent at 2:00a.m.. IF THERE HAD ONLY BEEN A REVENUE ENHANCEMENT CAMERA THERE.
10/27/2011 07:52:00 AM
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29 years for me. Never one kid hit by car call.
Why is Rahm and McSpeed bump going to put speed camera's around schools and parks. Isn't that what the speed bumps that they put down years back do now,slow you down.It makes no sense(what does that these goofs do)to put up the cameras when every school and park is surrounded by speed bumps.Oh wait Rahm hasn't live here for several years so maybe McSpeedbump should inform him. Oh wait he never lived her. Hey how about LiL Tommy Byrne S&S man. Maybe he could yell up Rahm's ass and let him know about the bumps.Wake up you goofs.
Will you guys thoughtfully look the other way if you happen upon citizens destroying these cameras?
I'd love to know their specifications (type of glass, thickness of pole, power supply, schematic of their electronics and if they are shielded or not..)
10/27/2011 05:05:00 AM
The Dept of Revenue is responsible for those cameras, no?
Just remember, the camera across the street is busy photographing you while you tamper with the opposite camera.
In 2010 seventy-four
children (1 sec. to 18 yrs.) were shot to death in Chicago. During the same period, 32 persons of all ages were killed in pedestrian-vehicle accidents.
http://www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?dsrcid=385672
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/traffic/ct-met-getting-around-0815-20110815,0,4319281,full.column
10/27/2011 04:44:00 AM
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Oh, no! Actual figures that CONTRADICT Emanuel's soundbites? How was THAT allowed to slip into public domain?
With traffic enforcement of speeding non existent in this city this is neccessary. If someone could offer one good argument of why you need to speed on side streets especially in a school zone id love to hear it. Yeah its a total money maker but oh well. easy solution dont speed.
10/27/2011 12:42:00 AM
Apples and oranges. You're bitching about speeders on side streets. The speedlight cameras are not being implemented on side streets.
It amazes me that in this fine city, some half assed law can make it through committee in what seems to be a matter of days yet I am waiting 3 months + to get an alley light fixed. I guess I don't live in a bad enough neighborhood to get any city services...
A lot of off duty cops are going to get dinged on this one. I wonder if the department will use it against on-duty cops??
I hear these mopes are going to introduce a new ordinance to license bicycles in the city. They want to begin with adult bikes and ultimately work their way to children's bikes. I am so outta here as soon as I can.
For your information:
http://www.motorists.org/speed-cameras/
A lot of resources are linked from that site. This one is interesting and current; I can't vouch for it's accuracy:
http://www.thenewspaper.com/
Why is it that every Chicago intersection with red light cameras has it's yellow light set to the absolute IDOT minimum of 3 seconds, while everywhere else they are set to 5 seconds??? Why did the City reset those lights from 5 to 3 seconds? Could it be for safety, or for the cash they generate. The red light cameras have absolutely nothing to do with public safety and everything to do with generating income. If safety was the issue, they would be evenly distributed, but it seems they are disproportionately located in areas that are well to do or at least areas that well to do motorist are more likely to transit. Why is that? Because the City knows they aren't going to get dime one from some unlicensed undocumented driver or from the bottom feeding welfare leeches, but hang a red light ticket on some soccer mom and the cash flows in. It's total bullsh*t, just one more way to screw over those of us who pay. This city and the asshats that run it can suck it. 6 more years to retirement, and I'll be so far gone from this dump all you'll see is my ass as I fly through the redlight cameras...
I keep hearing the same message here about sticking together to vote. How many city employees skipped the mayor's election? A very high precentage of city employees ignored voting and who supported Rahm? The democrats. Teachers, fire and police union did not support Rahm and he won without them. We have no voting power.
10/27/2011 03:43:00 PM
--------------------------------------------The teachers union was the first in line to endorse twinkle toes tiny dancer. You do have a point with CPD and CFD though...
Anonymous said...
hey scc how about rahm make these cyclists start paying up. the city should make it mandatory for some form of registration to be affixed to the rear of the bicycle. these cyclists hardly adhere to the traffic code that us drivers have to abide by. i wonder if an idiot cyclist goes thru a red light and if the camera catches it, if the city sends the idiot cyclist a 100 dollar ticket. i highly doubt that
10/27/2011 06:41:00 PM
Actually, the city could generate a ton of $$$ by making those Critical Mass nutjobs fork over some cash for their insane rides.
Just when we thought Racoon Eyes revenue munchkins ran out of ideas on how to pick our pockets...guess what...they thought of a new one. Don't shovel your snow after a storm you get a TICKET. This one even caught me off guard. Now imagine this...78 year old Gustav doesn't want to get a ticket from the Dept. of Revenue Zombies so he goes out after a 7 inch snowfall at 11 pm. Gustav is from the Old School. Obey the laws, pay your taxes, and don't flush the toilet more than twice a day because he can't afford to pay the new fucking water rates. Gustav gets half way through shoveling and keels over with vapor lock on the old ticker. An hour later the Revenue Gremlin finds Gustav laying on the sidewalk so he gives him another ticket for blocking the sidewalk. What kind of Revenue Monster has been created by these selfish heartless greedy Bastards at City Hall. You won't be able to drive over 20 mph from 6am to 10pm on 50% of city streets. A gallon of water is going to cost more than a gallon of gas. You forgot to buy your doggie a license...You are getting a Ticket and Fido is going to County Jail. Your cab driver screaming about a Jihad in Chicago...He's pissed because he has to charge you another extra buck and he will probably get no tip. And tonight I see some of our cowardly Alderfools proposing giving drug offenders with small amounts of dope a....yes you guessed it...A FUCKING TICKET! Are Homicides next!
A lot of off duty cops are going to get dinged on this one. I wonder if the department will use it against on-duty cops??
10/27/2011 08:44:00 PM
Iwouldn't be surprised. Did you know that the CTA pays traffic tixs for it's drivers? It's in their contract.
Make sure you promptly pay any tickets you or anyone else gets in your personal car.
I happen to have the same last name as someone else in my small condo building. Common name and the other guy's unit is in a trust with only the last name evident. His water bill (less than $50) was about 60 days overdue so the city ran the name and address against a list of city employees and they decided I owned the unit because the last names and address matched up.
My captain raised hell and had to jump through hoops to prove I wasn't the owner of that unit and that the bill had been paid.
I told the other owner what was going on. He felt guilty and interceded on my behalf with the Revenue drones and they told him he had to give them a copy of his trust to prove I wasn't a beneficiary. He told them to stick it.
So if you think they aren't going to bust you for a speeding or red light ticket, you're dreaming.
Why is Rahm and McSpeed bump going to put speed camera's around schools and parks. Isn't that what the speed bumps that they put down years back do now,slow you down.It makes no sense(what does that these goofs do)to put up the cameras when every school and park is surrounded by speed bumps.Oh wait Rahm hasn't live here for several years so maybe McSpeedbump should inform him. Oh wait he never lived her. Hey how about LiL Tommy Byrne S&S man. Maybe he could yell up Rahm's ass and let him know about the bumps.Wake up you goofs.
10/27/2011 07:38:00 PM
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First, I am totally against speed cameras whose validity can't be verified. This is all about generating revenue.
BUT, are you so unaware of your surroundings that you think all schools are bordered by side streets?
>Lasalle Magnet, Honore and DIVISION.
>Logandale, George and KEDZIE. >Nettlehorst, 3252 N. BROADWAY
>Stockton, Beacon and MONTROSE.
>Brunson, 932 N. CENTRAL
I don't, for a minute, believe these cameras are intended to 'save the children'. I don't think they are warranted. They will cause more accidents than they prevent. But, if you think all schools are on side streets, you either don't live or work in Chicago, or you're driving around in an oblivious bubble.
If nothing else, look around you at two pm at the intersections of Addison and Milwaukee, Addison and California, Addison and Western, Division and Western, Ashland and Irving Park. All of these schools are located at major intersections. Stop texting and look around you.
If the politicians were serious about wanting Chicago drivers to just 'slow down', which is what they publicly maintain, they should simply lower the speed limit to 25mph.
Instead of going 33-35 in a 30mph zone, people would be driving 28-30 in a 25mph zone. Voila! Problem resolved. But, drat - no extra income for the city.
The state law allowing chicago to put up speeding cameras ( law only applies to chicago, not the rest of the state) will have the cameras operating from 7 am to 10 pm 365 days a year, even when school is not in session. Look out!
Another reason to leave Illinois...
"Why is this camera legislation ONLY for Chicago?"
Because we need "special" laws to cover the city; laws requiring city employees live within the confines (emphasis on CONFINES) of the city, laws that put the mayor in charge of appointing the pension boards, laws that specifically allow revenue cameras, etc.
Our crooked politicians can't be expected to do it all alone, can they??
Now that speed cameras are okay, will they finally remove all of the useless stop signs, circle jerks and pointless stoplights??
During my 18 mile commute to work, I'm averaging 17-18 mph during rush hour. No wonder it takes me an hour to get to work. That's ridiculous!
There are too many stop signs and traffic lights that need to flash yellow (during nighttime hours). It's little wonder that so many people ignore these stop signs.
One of Rahms arguments is that x% of accidents involve speeding-obvious proof that people are participating in civil disobedience! They're voting against these superfluous stop signs and traffic lights by voting with their right foot, and putting the pedal to the metal!
Wow the people of Chicago are real IDIOTS! You need to speak up NOW before this law gets passed and is implemented!People hate the police, so in their eyes this is a slap in our face. But this law will come back to bite them in the ass. See a police officer can show some compasion to the single mother with three kids, the mom running late to pick up the kid from school, rushing a loved one to the emergency room, and the many workers to drive for a living when they are caught speeding 6 mph the posted speed limit. But these cameras will not give a shit with the excuse you have for speeding and demand $100 per violation. With these cameras covering 48% of the city it will easy to assume some people will and can get caught 3 times a day,at $100 a piece, even a mid income family can face hardship will their monthly bills. Can you imagine a low income family, they wont be able to pay their bills or have their cars booted/impounded for payment? The city wants them installed near parks, guess what is on both sides of LSD? Miles and miles of park land, so expect these cameras on LSD $$$$$$$$$$!!!! These alderman should be opposing these cameras and fighting for low income people and businesses doing buisness in chicago, this law will do more harm than good! Call your alderman and demand they vote no to speed cameras in chicago. Dont let rham do a daley mistake like the parking meters!
Are Homicides next!
10/27/2011 11:39:00 PM
i sure hope not.
that would bankrupt me.
Chalkie
They've had this garbage for years over in Europe. The locals hate them and destroy them often. A tire soaked in gas does a 100% job in completely destroying the camera and easily fits over the mounting.
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