Eliminating Review
Another missive from the last days of Downtown Ernie Brown last week declares that all case reports will be done on the Automated Incident Reporting Application. Paper reports will only be done when "authorized by the Watch Commander" and then only in extreme circumstances. Sergeants are ordered not to approve paper reports.
We don't know about where everyone works, but at any given time, we have 20% or more of our cars down, many without working PDT's or computer mounts. That means we have to run into the station to do reports, which of course, kind of defeats the purpose of maintaining a presence on the streets while we bounce from job to job to job.
How about we invest in decent equipment first of all, make sure we have enough replacements in case something breaks, then maintain the equipment regularly, then eliminate the paper. We want to go paperless as much as the next guy, but this backasswards method is just silly.
Penny wise, pound foolish.
We don't know about where everyone works, but at any given time, we have 20% or more of our cars down, many without working PDT's or computer mounts. That means we have to run into the station to do reports, which of course, kind of defeats the purpose of maintaining a presence on the streets while we bounce from job to job to job.
How about we invest in decent equipment first of all, make sure we have enough replacements in case something breaks, then maintain the equipment regularly, then eliminate the paper. We want to go paperless as much as the next guy, but this backasswards method is just silly.
Penny wise, pound foolish.
Labels: silly people
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
41 Comments:
Ron Luberman says "this department will be paperless by the year 2000"
SCC, simply look upon this latest Directive from DTEB as the waning days of a real jackass, who is (thankfully)
about to let the door 'smack him right in his ass' on the way out.
"Blah blah blah I'm just trying to look like what I do and say matters in my final weeks here." We've got in covered, "Boss."
The Department is too stupid and too cheap to purchase enough quality PDTs so that we will have more than enough available for every working beat car.
The bigger problem is the corruption-laden City purchasing system. I have heard from more than one reliable source, that the City could have purchased these Panasonic "hardbook" PDTs directly
from Panasonic for about $2,500 a piece. Instead, the City requires an "authorized vendor" [clout payoff] which made the City pay about $5,000 for each PDT.
If the citizens of Chicago KNEW how much they are being screwed, [being charged twice as much as necessary for EVERYTHING, just so that the clouted few can get their "cut"] by our corrupt Mayor and our gaggle of corrupt aldermen, every day, with their corrupt B.S., there would be rioting in the streets until they were ALL tarred and feathered and banished from this town!
We are already taxed to death in this 100% corrupt City of Chicago, the most corrupt city in the nation. Cook County is ALSO the most corrupt county in the nation. Emanuel and Prenkwinckle should be so scared of the wrath of the righteous indignation of an awakened populace that they immediately leave their posts and head for the hills. Instead, the citizens of Chicago, the DUMBEST voters in the enire nation, vote these villains in! You voted for them, now enjoy being over-taxed while they pillage and rape (financially) what is left to take from the working citizens of Chicago!
I work at the big airport automated what is that? DTEB needs to go and now! Sorry darien coppers our loss is your detriment enjoy the lies and bullshit!
WHEN THE HELL IS BROWN LEAVING FOR DARIEN??? Not soon enough, obviously, but when?
According to Ramsey, at a CAPS training class in 1992, we will be totally paperless by 1996.
Maybe we can blame the WHOLE thing on the CALL TAKERS!
Furthermore can't they make all non-emergency jobs get forwarded to 311/CALL BACK? I know they may be waiting a long time but then they need to devise a new IMPROVED system. Line ON LINE reporting on a CPD website to fill out your own report that asks YOU the victim what where when How and who etc. You just fill in the blanks!
A lot of WASTED TIME by patrol when units are on idiot paper jobs all bullshit that can be done over the phone should be. Its the year 2011!
Cars stay down and sometimes they are needed to back others up but they play possum so its still wasted time etc.
I m not pointing fingers at any District or any one unit or car because I am guilty of it too in my time. Really its just a no brainer to keep cars clear and available for in progress/assists calls only.
It may upset the "Reverends neighbors" now for them to be put on HOLD and not have the POLEESE running crazy responding to all the BULLSHIT but too bad they gonna vote how they vote anyways and the yuppies will go with the flow!
The rest of us "neighbors" the city workers etc. Well we will bitch no matter what happens but realistically we always can figure it out!
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What about the Sgt in 025 who is being disciplined because he handed in a case report as a single sided document even though they cannot be printed any other way....somebody say it aint so
when your car doesn't have equipment working, get it fixed, go too the area , bring coffee, your smart phone, down the car and wait. now no car, no service. enjoy your tour.BTW notify the watch co ordinator, your sgt. mayors office, fop, iad, sun times, your mother, and anyone else who can't help you... no car status....got a better idea?????????
Hey Ernie
Look at this problem first. The automated system is down or slow more often than not. The PDT situation is lacking to say the least. The computers in the stations are not much better.
But of course how would you know this?
They should not let Brown make any more decisions before he retires. He's only doing it to screw with us. What a dumbass. Darien is in big trouble!!
Better idea have the desk officer who most of the day is not to busy enter all reports that could not be put into aira.
One of the DUMBEST things I ever saw when I worked in A5 was that we had to make copies of CHRIS reports so the clerks could file them. Seriously! Pop the r.d.# into the computer if you need it, and hit the "print:" key. And oh yeah, when Andrews was there he decided we didn't need file cabinets--said everything should be in a felony file or in CHRIS, so he had all the file cabinets removed. What a fucking RETARD that guy was...and now he's moved up even further in the food chain, because his mama owned a restaurant and had a lot of dirt on people. What a turd.
most of the time you cannot get aira in the cars. Which leads to officers having to go into the station and waste another 30-45 minutes doing a report they could have dine on the scene. I agree, either get better equipment or go back to paper reports. Because this experiment is a complete failure. But I guess ant good leader who had his finger on the pulse of this Dept. Could have figured that out.
Anonymous said...
when your car doesn't have equipment working, get it fixed, go too the area , bring coffee, your smart phone, down the car and wait. now no car, no service. enjoy your tour.BTW notify the watch co ordinator, your sgt. mayors office, fop, iad, sun times, your mother, and anyone else who can't help you... no car status....got a better idea?????????
10/26/2011 02:11:00 AM
In the old days we only had a newspaper when the car was down and we were stuck in the area garage. Now they have smart phones and IPADS. I would report every safety problem and down the car. The IPAD will keep me busy. The squeaky wheel gets oiled. Do not hide the safety problems.
If the citizens of Chicago KNEW how much they are being screwed, [being charged twice as much as necessary for EVERYTHING, just so that the clouted few can get their "cut"] by our corrupt Mayor and our gaggle of corrupt aldermen, every day, with their corrupt B.S., there would be rioting in the streets until they were ALL tarred and feathered and banished from this town!
We are already taxed to death in this 100% corrupt City of Chicago, the most corrupt city in the nation. Cook County is ALSO the most corrupt county in the nation. Emanuel and Prenkwinckle should be so scared of the wrath of the righteous indignation of an awakened populace that they immediately leave their posts and head for the hills. Instead, the citizens of Chicago, the DUMBEST voters in the enire nation, vote these villains in! You voted for them, now enjoy being over-taxed while they pillage and rape (financially) what is left to take from the working citizens of Chicago!
10/26/2011 12:21:00 AM
Right you are, sir. They do this under the guise of the need for minority contractors for the most part.
The City had declared that we must have a certain percentage of our contractors be minority owned. The connected thieves then throw a minority (or Women's) name at the top of a flow chart, and scam away.
There is NO service or ANY piece of equipment that the taxpayers pay for that hasn't been touched by this ridiculous 'set aside'. Incredibly, though this costs the taxpayers billions, it goes on.
This is a fat, slow pitch with very little arc, and yet, the Media doesn't swat this one out of the park. Where are you Mr. Investigative Reporter?
God Bless Randy Stevens
I enjoy reading your comments. They are ALWAYS right on the money.
Keep up the GREAT work.
PDT's? I can tell you for a fact - in 016 we have about 40% of our radios working. The rack is missing 60% of it's radios out for repair.... that have never came back for at least 6 months. Ever on a traffic stop with 2 shitheads on the car and your radio won't transmit, and then they know it?
Welcome to Suburbia!!!!! We've been playing this game for years!!!! All this nonsense to gather information for useless statistics that get ignored because the outcome is not what they expected........
What about the Sgt in 025 who is being disciplined because he handed in a case report as a single sided document even though they cannot be printed any other way....somebody say it aint so
10/26/2011 02:00:00 AM
Don't post bullshit like this... First of all, how can you "hand in" a case report if it was completed on AIRA? And they can be printed double sided...you just have to have basic computer skills. And why would a Sgt. Be handing in case reports?
Ok and what about the units that haven't been trained in Aira.?
Anonymous said...
"Maybe we can blame the WHOLE thing on the CALL TAKERS!..."
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10/26/2011 01:11:00 AM
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Call takers follow POLICE DISPATCH POLICY. Complain to the Police bosses and have it changed.
We are instructed to send on just occurred calls. You make the decision to make a reports on scene, not me. Why don't YOU refer them to call back?
And not every call taker follows procedure. I've talked plenty of callers out of wanting the police to give a report.
GO BACK TO PAPER!ITS QUICKER! the experiment has failed!not enough money to put pdts in all vehicles and maintain them!too much time to relocate to station for reports!BRING BACK PAPER ARREST AND CASE REPORTS!!
EB is an idiot ... Aira was down in the cars all weekend in 008 ...
What does your daddy do?
We works for morons and imbeciles waiting for the computer to work so he can do something unnecessary for the ungrateful who voted for the morons and imbeciles.
He's home for three days because he told somebody that?
I thought this dipshit Brown went to Darien already? If not will someone tell him to STFU!
Slow down with all this PDT stuff. I like it when I get a vehicle that has a non working PDT. It serves as a wonderful lunch tray, a stable platform to hold my portable dvd player or I-pod and speakers. Plus if it doesn't work it still tells the time so at least we have a $5000.00 clock in our cars, how many departments can say that. Why if I had a working PDT I might be able to do some work such as run names and plates and do reports. I can run names and plates over the air but on a busy night the dispatchers would want to hang me by my pubes. So enough with all this new equipment talk, just stop it. I just bought all the seasons of SEX IN THE CITY and I'm just itching to watch them.
Our Case, Arrest, and Inventory reporting system (I-Clear) is outdated, confusing and SLOW.
Im not a computer geek, but is our system on a separate server system or shared with entire city?
Why do we have to deal with all the pages to do an Arrest Report or Inventory? Why isn't data automatically "saved"?
Why is the desktop computer not synced with the mobile laptops?
Eliminate review and where will all the Gals go???
The equpiment we have to use today is just pure shit, second rate, hand me down military cast off, lowest bid garbage, that don't work!
Da Pelon
Ok and what about the units that haven't been trained in Aira.?
10/26/2011 10:36:00 AM
LOL are you fucking kidding me? Training in AIRA? Just like everything else on this Dept. the training is a 30 minute video. Here's the shorter version for you. Log in, follow the directions and type. AIRA is not rocket science!!!
Got bitched at by my Sgt for going to the station to complete a report. Aira wouldn't allow us to submit the report from the car. Told us we were supposed to do a paper report. A few days later we were reminded by the WC that paper reports have to be approved by WC.
The PDT's suck. Rarely can we put a contact card in. And when we can when we get an error message trying to put in the date and time of occurrence. Also AIRA times out when we try to do reports. So we get the RD over the air, leave the job, go to the station, and do the report. That's alot of down time when it's busy.
I can't believe that lily white suburb aka Darien hired this mutt !!!
"That means we have to run into the station to do reports, which of course, kind of defeats the purpose of maintaining a presence on the streets while we bounce from job to job to job."
Efficiency has never been, nor will it be a hallmark at CPD.
Take your time. Enjoy. There are always more reports to do out there.
Better idea have the desk officer who most of the day is not to busy enter all reports that could not be put into aira.
10/26/2011 07:44:00 AM
Hey slick I don't know where you work but my district desk is often busy. You obviously are clueless if you think a desk officer is going to put in all the AIRA reports in addition to all their other responsibilities.
Anonymous said...
Better idea have the desk officer who most of the day is not to busy enter all reports that could not be put into aira.
10/26/2011 07:44:00 AM
Why don't you go to 023 to report it? Saw 4 desk officers looking bored and needing work to do there!
who cares about review , let a civilian do it
Looks like the Review Officer position is GONE. Now the bosses have to make up another position for one of their favorite officer's to stay off the street. Oh, that's right they can be the POD Officer and still surf the internet just like they did as a Review Officer. Nothing has changed.
Anonymous said...
What about the Sgt in 025 who is being disciplined because he handed in a case report as a single sided document even though they cannot be printed any other way....somebody say it aint so
10/26/2011 02:00:00 AM
Don't post bullshit like this... First of all, how can you "hand in" a case report if it was completed on AIRA? And they can be printed double sided...you just have to have basic computer skills. And why would a Sgt. Be handing in case reports?
10/26/2011 09:52:00 AM
Just FYI, there is a document that Sgt's submit that is done on both sides. Would he be disciplined for not doing it? I don't know. Could they? Yes.
thank Jonathan Lewin for fucking up the IT division. If he didnt say yes to so much and fixed the shit we got we would be ok
Review office is not needed and has not been for many years. Just a throw back that needs to go, along with time keepers. Automate timekeeping with swipe machines for all non-supervisors. Change is a bitch
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