Police Shootings Up
- This has been a tumultuous year for the Chicago Police Department. A new superintendent shook up long-established units, thousands of city cops got new assignments, and, according to new stats from the Independent Police Review Authority. Deadly force is up significantly in 2011.
Chicago police officers were involved in more shootings the first nine months of this year than all of last year. Up to today, according to police records, officers here have shot 59 people, killing 22 of them -- nearly twice as many as last year. In all of 2010, Chicago police-involved shootings claimed 13 lives.
Fraternal Order of Police officials say the increase in shootings by officers is a result of understaffing and of gang and drug units being gutted -- all of which F.O.P. spokesman Pat Camden says allows more guns to stay on the street.
At least Pat is out there explaining exactly why the numbers are up. And it's the fault of the criminals, not the police as Goudie implies.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Goudie implies, the audience infers.
Pic. or it didn't happen!
Any of these so-called shootings on the Pod cams?
Gangs & Narcotics understaffing is the cause for the increase?
More like the brazen boldness of these predators& a milquetoast command staff w/no sense of direction.
Mmph!
Snicker... Hee hee hee!
What was that McMooky said?
"The increase in shootings have nothing to do with staffing."
Hee hee heeeeeee! Snicker!
*Joker style laughter*
BBWWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAH!
*Cue the flaming Gladys Ave. two flat with McMooky & 9.5 laughing & burning to blackened skeletons while shooting the shit out of everybody trying to save themselves by jump out of the one window they purposely didn't put burglar bars on...*
*Joker style laughter again*
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA!
The most certifiably deranged, detached from reality, moony-assed utterances EVER by a so called Police executive!
Ray Charles, even with the handicap of being both blind AND dead can see that the last 10 years of intentional shrinkage through attrition and the ongoing "take it to The Police" campaign by shortshanks, j-fled, 9.5, mcmooky, the media and the noisy supporters of the catered to constituents has set the table for this by EMBOLDENING & ENCOURAGING GHETTO DOGS TO DROP SHOTS AT THE POLICE!
Which in turn forces Policemen to kill the shit out of that ass...
"Why don't you Cops stop being so trigger-happy and fighting so hard to stay alive! It's an honor to die for us, isn't it? Stop being so worried about going home to your families. Don't your survivors get like over $100K?
Rahm & McMooky ain't got shit let alone supposedly having a plan...
These smart and brilliant people having all the fucking answers? (just ask them, they'll tell ya) Actually don't...
Right before our eyes we're witnessing the total subversion of common sense understanding of the actions taken by people in the face of life or death situations.
Dead Coppers are good press & tasty sound bites.
Don't give the legacy criminal-political & media cabal of Chicago the satisfaction of seeing us bury KIA bretheren while they wipe false tears for bright lights then laugh and motherfuck the blue suits when the news trucks drive away...
Anybody need further convincing that this city is destroyed beyond salvaging yet?
"Viva Hate!" The Policeman mutters under his breath as he rolls from call to call.
P.S.
An idle thought... How about that Morale Survey?
Yeah... Just as we suspected.
Merry Christmas to you too...
The criminals have lost their fear of the police.
The public is doomed.
WTF do you expect....2,500 plus coppers short....units that are just nothing more then history and a corruption running rampant in elected officials... adds up to a whole lot of shit getting deeper by the month....
"In all of 2010, Chicago police-involved shootings claimed 13 lives"
What the fuck is it? a plane crash?
wouldnt it be implies?
Jeez Chuck what stellar reporting. Let's see police manpower at record lows, assaults on police rising at alarming rates, the Beast element getting bolder and bolder by the day and you're surprised that police shootings are up??
Come on Chuck get off your soapbox and tell it like it is.
Oops that might not be politically correct and could hurt someone's feelings. Easier to just pin it on those bad police.
Morphine is gone. Pain is back. Rodeo is no fun.
May the God's shine (even more...) on the "Golden One"
Congrats!!
Fuck Chuck.
A violent felon points a gun at a police officer and that damn cop shots him! There are no penalties for most of the crimes these shits commit so, shooting at the police is no biggie, plus it gets you props in the hood.
It's a shame, but these journalists are as bad as public school teachers, liberal to the bone and it's always the militaries fault or the police.
Liars... Crime is down!
Don't forget the economy. When times are tough there is more violence. Robbery, people stressed out, and any other reason when there isn't as much money floating around for us peasants.
The only time the media portrays the Police in a good light is when one of us die in the line of duty! Every thing else is negative . I believe the Politicians control the local media and to paraphrase Hitler," If you control the Media you control the People."All this negativity to keep their constituents happy.
"New York City police have shot and killed eight people. Chicago: 22. New York's police commissioner credits restraint by officers."
Fuck you CMSR Kelly. With waaaay less officers here, we take more guns off the street than your Dept. There are more assholes runnning around here with guns, so the chances of getting into a shooting are increased. Restraint has nothing to do with it.
What do you expect when districts are running on skeleton crews. The 23rd Dist. is only running 4 to 5 cars every day on 2nd watch.
Um, did Goudie mention how many cops were shot, or shot at before they fired their weapons?
Police shootings are about the only thing Comp-post can't hide.
Goudie is a tool.
And it's the fault of the criminals, not the police as Goudie implies.
Why is this such a difficult concept for some/most(?) people to comprehend?
Don't forget the economy. When times are tough there is more violence. Robbery, people stressed out, and any other reason when there isn't as much money floating around for us peasants.
These are typical sociological excuses. The (sometimes overweight) flash mobs aren't stealing diapers, milk and bread.
A better headline: This has been a tumultuous year for offenders who like to aim guns at Chicago Police officers.
This is a response from the politicians to redirect the heat after the Chicago Magazine publishings!
We know this entire parade of fuckery is the much desired "re-boot" of CPD yearned for by everyone.
You know, the legacy criminal political & media cabal of Chicago and their horde of fertile, straight democratic voting catered to constituents?
The decent, law & common sense abiding, captive taxpayers have been elbowed away from the table but are expected to pay the ever increasing bill.
Said "reboot" occurring so as not to let an ongoing crisis go to waste.
The real problem occurs when men possessed of common sense, decency, ethics, morality and sanity; try to use the "Kentucky Windage" of the everyman to compensate for the eye watering, headache inducing attempt at trying to jibe reason & rationality with the utterly shameless shit-flinging crazy of 9.5 & mcmooky's talk and actions in regard to the city and the fate of CPD.
Especially given the consensus that the lose of control of the city's streets is nearly total and irreversible. Given the current anti-Police climate.
Maybe it's good that an entire Police Department is policing strictly to protect careers and hard earned assets by staying alive/surviving by any lawful means necessary to stay out of the crosshairs of CCSAO and by extension USDOJ which is on record as stating it was "going after" Policemen for even the slightest hint of an allegation of hurting a catered to constituent's feelings...
Let alone actually doing something worthy of real tort action scrutiny.
Man! If that isn't an overt play in catering to and mollifying POTUS Sparkle-Fart's voter base!
"Viva Hate," The Policeman mutters as another stacked job chirps on the computer...
Anon. said:
The criminals have lost their fear of the police.
The public is doomed.
12/23/2011 01:05:00 AM
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The public is doomed?? I don't think so. Just don't step into the crossfire.
People have been buying guns since 2008 like they were going out-of-style.
Criminals may have lost their fear of the police, but they still fear looking down the bore of a .45 or a 12 gauge.
OT ......Bellwood officials have sued former comptroller and administrator Roy McCampbell, alleging he "destroyed the village's financial credit" and left the tiny suburb more than $135 million in debt.
Can we sue Daley ????!!
To 5:48:00
The state of the economy has ZERO to do with crime. Most of these criminals are repeat offenders going back to when the economy si good and bad.
The simple reason people commit crimes is because they are born predators.
Things have changed so much since I came on the job 29 years ago. No respect. No fear of the police. No consequences for attacking the cops. Too many consequences for us for simply defending ourselves. Constant criticism from the media. Nobody appreciates us anymore. I can't wait to get out. This City is doomed.
If this department was fully staffed - 13,500 strong minimum - there would be a decrease in police/felon confrontations, and likewise, deadly force incidents. Eliminating units has nothing to do with it when watches in the districts are barely staffed, lock-ups are closed pulling arresting officers off the street for longer processing times, we're running a LOT of 1-man cars, we have incompetent and indifferent bosses, gang bangers are bolder, 17-year olds are now "juveniles", 48 hr rule for charging, can't hold on to witnesses...Jesus, I'm getting tired just listing the reasons as I can go on and on.
...and crime is down in Rahmtown. Just ask GMac.
December 23, 2011
Obama Targeting Police Nationwide to Divert from Fast and Furious
By Rachel Alexander
12/23/2011
Either there has been a huge increase in discrimination by law enforcement during the Obama administration, or Obama is targeting law enforcement for politically motivated reasons.
In the current era of heightened sensitivity to racism and police brutality, it makes no sense that abuses by law enforcement are increasing. The U.S. Department of Justice’s sudden flurry of investigations finding massive amounts of discrimination and abuses by police agencies around the country is coincidentally occurring at the same time the U.S. Department of Justice is undergoing a highly publicized Congressional investigation into Fast and Furious.
Law enforcement is a natural target for the left, which often seems to prefer criminals over the police. Alleging vague charges of racism or racial profiling is becoming one of the most prevalent ways the left dishonestly demonizes and discredits its opponents. Made-up charges of racism are difficult to defend against, because almost any difference in treatment between two people of different ethnic backgrounds can be blamed on racism with no way of proving otherwise. You cannot get inside someone’s head to prove that he had no racist thoughts; it is one person’s word against another’s....
Go to:
http://townhall.com
Maybe Goudie needs to read the USA Today.
Not much we can do about this:
http://www.officer.com/news/10576759/fatal-ambushes-targeting-police-increase
The rise in shootings has nothing to do with allegedly 'gutted' narc & gang teams, as has been said by the Orange One. It has everything to do with the brazen attitude of today's criminals, along with the poor parenting skills of many today. A kid won't have any respect for law & order if the parent doesn't; it's also been proven that children who haven't been taught a
strong sense of right & wrong by their parents by the
age of 4 to 5 are pretty much doomed to have issues
along that route.
Just curious ???
How many of current command staff are veterans? (military)
Capt. & above ?
Lts ?
I'd suspect that there will be an obvious enhancement in morale of the officers under their command
(excluding E. Carter)
The criminals have lost their fear of the police.
The public is doomed.
12/23/2011 01:05:00 AM
Anybody need further convincing that this city is destroyed beyond salvaging yet?
These two posts say it all.
I came on the job 20 years ago. Bad guys feared the police for the most part.
If a bad guy ran from the cops, he ws reminded not to run from the cops. We ruled with an iron fist.
Today there is no respect for authority and it worsens every single day.
I am sorry to say that Chicago will never recover. This once great city of our forefathers will be a cesspool of violence forever.
Put in your time, save a little, keep your nose clean, and move out of Cook County when you retire if you can sell your house.
God help us all.
C'mon, Chuck. Do some real reporting. How about a ride-along in Englewood this May? Put your vest on so you can get out of the car and show us how it is done. Be a real man! Because, right now...you just look like a coward with a microphone. Most people grow out of the "I'm taking my ball and telling my mom" stage. Not you, Chuck! You'll be the little brat down the street your whole life. Congrats.
Goudie is a water boy for the machine. Don't investigate anything serious, ok?
It's so great to be back home in Chicago. The halfway house is a country club compared to that miserable bayou hellhole where I spent 27 months of my life a thousand miles away from family and precious friends.
Since I am without Internet access, I want to take this opportunity to thank you guys for all your continued support throughout my ordeal. Without you having my back, I doubt that I could survive.
May you and your loved ones have a Merry Christmas and a happy and healthy 2012. Stay safe. God bless you.
William Cozzi
Salvation Army
1515 W. Monroe St., #2E
Chicago, IL 60607
WJC:jn
How many shots fired against the police and battery to PO this year to past years and then compared to New York?
Love the comment about crime being down.....lol
O.T. guess what came in the mail 2 days before Christmas? The city's very own Christmas card in the form of a water bill. I hate this city.
Is he going to do a story on the number of officers shot last year and compare it to this year?
Guess we are not taking enough chances at getting shot or injured.
What is it in the last 10 days or so, 7 officers killed in the line of duty throughout the country?
Keep up the great work and protect yourselves.
Most important thing is for you to go home at the end of your shift.
About 1000 more probably should have been shot but got lucky and tased only.
Disgusting to hear how media and society feel sorry for the shitheads and scum. Wait until they are a victim of these crimes and then you will see a change. Or will they forgive their attacker?
(OT) I am a fireman, but have family that are police, and this blog really tells the truth about how fucked up this city is! Just FYI for the coppers on the west end of 008,last night my catalytic convertor was stolen from my jeep,was at the gym on Archer this morning turns out I was not the only 1! Hope the boss in 008 kup will put some tact cars west of pulaski and stop pampering the animals! But then again when O'Grady gets moved to 008 from narcotics and kup goes there maybe real change will happen on the west end where people pay their bills!
Boys and Girls,
I fully know the side effects of a police involved shooting, trust me-I do. In spite of those effects, it is whole-heartedly more important that you go home safely to your families at the end of your shift. Screw the politicians, screw the naysayers, screw the media and the bleeding heart liberals, you, your partner’s and your peer’s safety are of the utmost importance during your career. My point here – in addition to telling all the above to go screw themselves, most of them are no friend of the police, but my point is NEVER HESITATE. If someone puts themselves in the position to be shot by the police then; so be it. You and I both know that police officers across this Nation are not out gunning people down. We are not murders, we are not killers, or criminals, we are trained professionals hired to protect society against the evil that lurks among them. We defend the good people of this City from the predators who seek to do them and their families harm. We face the killers, robbers, gang bangers and gun-toting psychopaths so they don’t have to. On occasion, that confrontation necessitates that we lawfully discharge our weapon and shoot, injure and sometimes kill the criminal. Police Officers and other law enforcement professionals are reactionary during confrontational situations, and merely respond to the actions of the offender. If he or she acts violently during our interaction then they will force us to react. That reaction is both training and survival response and is by no means an unlawful or unnecessary action or reaction by the officer(s) involved.
I want to remind you as I do on a daily basis that you need to back each other up on every assignment and be prepared to do battle in every interaction you encounter on the street. If you feel threatened, or find yourselves in a threatening situation, whether it is by a grandmother, a teen or a thug, you need to be prepared to defend yourself and the people around you. Please DO NOT WAIT to become a victim. You all know when the situation is present. If they have a firearm; shoot them immediately. If they are aggressive with any weapon; shoot them immediately. If they possess any weapon other than a firearm; give them direction to disarm, and if during that encounter they respond aggressively, then react appropriately and shoot them.
There will ALWAYS be lawsuits, some lawyers are shady and people are greedy. You will be vindicated during the investigation, no matter who the investigating body is. The Detectives, IPRA or the Feds, it will be determined you were within your rights. Punitive is punishment for an intentional act done outside the scope of your employment. We all make mistakes; it’s only punitive when you try to remedy a mistake afterward.
Bullets are cheap, life is not. Protect the citizens around you, protect your partner and your peers and protect yourself. Heroes are people who save others and those who willfully engage a deadly encounter. Dead heroes can only be honored and remembered for their duty, dedication and valor; I’d prefer to shake your hand.
A Boss – (Not a Gold Star, just a white shirt)
Most likely, with the ultra-liberal political climate within CPD Administration, I would bet that there will be an even more restrictive firearms/ shooting policy coming soon, especially with the cooked books on crime dropping again this year. Hard to think like a liberal pencil-neck, but that's the obtuse way they view things. Remember, in their pea-brains, it's OUR fault so many felonious offenders are getting shot by CPD, not the offenders.
"The criminals have lost their fear of the police.
The public is doomed."
12/23/2011 01:05:00 AM
This is exactly the problem. Until the city stands behind their officers and quit paying out multimillion dollar lawsuits to these mutts they will continue to be emboldened and will stand up to the cops. Once the pendulum starts swinging the other way this will only get worse. Stay safe my brothers, whatever department you serve with.
This is all by design folks.Daley and J-fled made sure crime and shootings were supposed to go out of control and bingo OBUMMER AND HIS LITTLE ELF WERE TO be bestowed millions of taxpayer dollars to buy more police thus making everyone happy again and make obumout look like a hero and guarrentee re-election. It ain´t happening, there are no millions to be bestowed on anybody except in Daley´s piggey bank and he could give a rats ass about CPS kids,chicago taxpayers, coppers or anybody else except his theiving family. Yeah I said it.
An illegal gun is an inanimate object that in itself cannot hurt anybody. The danger is the lowly two-legged animal known as the "gang-banger," who has virtually nothing but evil in his heart, and wicked deeds for his agenda. He points a gun at a police officer and shoots, because there is nothing good in him to deter such an evil act. CPD Chief James Maurer publicly called this type of animal a "savage," and that is exactly what they are, deadly, sub-human savages.
The reason that police shootings are up is largely elementary math: the number of police on the street is down, the anti-gang units have been gutted, and the number of young gang-banging sub-human savages who are coming of age, is increasing...savages who are eager to shoot at, and try to kill, police officers.
It doesn't help that we have a spineless command staff at headquarters. They are the fruition of the Peter Principle: they have been promoted, by their clout, to their level of incompetence...so instead of true leaders, we have incompetent gold stars running the show.
It doesn't help, either, that after 21 years of having a police-hating mayor, we now have another police-hater in Rahm Emanuel. If Rahm liked the police, he would find a way in his budget to hire more police instead of allowing our numbers to continue to dwindle, and he would have given us a superintendent that had at least an ounce of integrity, one who cared for the working cop more than stroking his own enormous ego.
Keep your guns cleaned, oiled, and ready to fire, because in the next few years, police-related shootings in Chicago will increase exponentially.
Point a gun at me - win a 147 gr prize.
It ain't rocket science
The Justice Department is very interested in this issue and the department can't provide answers to simple questions that the Justice Department is asking.
This is all going to blow up in the next month regarding a shooting last summer in the 7th District. Expect federal charges against the officer AND supervisors who failed to make an arrest or present this evidence to the Cook Co SA.
The biggest problem is that the Chicago Police Dept currently has no independent criminal review for police shootings. There is no Grand Jury investigation. There is no investigation by the Cook Co SA unless they are contacted by the department.
IPRA has no authority to conduct a criminal investigation. IPRA cannot make arrests or serve subpoenas. Their review is for departmental policy violations only. IPRA is simply a Daley creation to silence the media by telling the media that every shooting is "under investigation." NO OTHER police department in the nation handles police shootings like Chicago.
Expect that before the end of next year, all police shootings will be investigated by the State Police. Since virtually all police shootings are justified, this is probably best for the officers involved and their reputations.
The economy? These savages we deal with wouldn't take a real job if you handed it to them. Robberies, thefts, burglaries, and scams are much easier than a real 9-5. While our current economy is no doubt a problem for a portion of our society, it sure as hell ain't the portion we deal with.
I'll be home for Christmas....
Chuck Goudie didn't go blind from self abuse, he just got stupid from over doing it !!!
Give it a rest Chuckie boy !
I have an idea (call me crazy) why don't we put out the number of person with a gun calls, shots fired, armed robberies, uuw arrests in this city so that people can get a grasp of the nature of our job in this fine city. You can exclude the homicides and people shot who live and we can put those numbers against offenders shot by police. No comparison, give the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Same goes with half description when it comes to excluding race, wtf is the point of even reporting it then?
The media isn't your friend: no more plays for news vans speeding to scenes of stories-hammer 'em, reporters going to stories-hammer 'em, media vehicles parked illegally-hammer 'em.
Chuck Goudies is TV's version of Neil Steinberg, a police hater with an agenda.
Seriously who calls their kid Chuck ? And why would a grown man still call himself Chuck ...
Shootings involving citizens shooting each other is way up also this year. All those guns on the street being used by thugs to rob and settle scores. Any wonder the police get caught in the middle. Not hard to figure out if you want to or care.
Wow Chuck, you mean to tell me that there's a direct correlation between shooting at police and police shooting back?
Bravo for the hard hitting analysis Sir, bravo.
Wait until next May for the G-8 when his pimpy ass is being drug thru the broken windows of his studio and see what his attitude is then. Those multimillion dollar T.V. studios at Ch 2 & 7 are going to get destroyed by the monster the Liberal News Media has created.
No matter what argument they use to explain the increase in the number of police related shootings or assaults/batteries on the Chicago Police, it comes down to manpower - plain and simple. Chuck Goudie, et al, has broadcast this "news" for shock value and to put us in a bad public light. Rather than cite statistical relationships between the number of officers vs police shootings vs population between Chicago and New York City, he only deals with generalities. Still, this is just a sensational puff piece to inflame public opinion, create greater animosity against the police and once again Goudie submits a contribution in search of that ever elusive Emmy.
If you've met this clown while working the street or had anything close to a conversation with him, you immediately come to realize that he is out for sensationalism and building his career. Long story short - when I was in Gambling/Vice about 20 years ago this guy wanted to do an interview of a fellow UC officer while we were working a long term investigation. Goudie promised he would hide the officer's face and disguise his voice. I warned the officer not to trust him, but he did it anyway. Low and behold, Goudie set it up so you could identify the officer facially and his voice was not really disguised. When it aired we were mortified and concerned that he had blown the officer's cover. It did . . . but not with the principle offender we were looking at. Our CO was pissed, but it was water under the bridge and nothing could be done about it by then. The operation came to fruition, but not without a lot of scrambling. Goudie, meanwhile, made no apologies - even when he was later confronted. Don't trust the media - for anything.
Merry Christmas to all my Brothers and Sister's in Blue, Please stay safe, call one another and check on us.
CPD
I saw a video on jib jab of the supt when he was in NJ. He was braging about a 20%-30% reduction in crime accross the board in a few months of taking office. These are the same numbers being spewed here since may. These numbers seem to follow him from city to city.
Anonymous said...
Gangs & Narcotics understaffing is the cause for the increase?
More like the brazen boldness of these predators& a milquetoast command staff w/no sense of direction.
12/23/2011 12:27:00 AM
True. People want to make this complicated. No one fears the police or the consequences of their actions.
Police shootings would go down if the law abiding citizens were allowed to "Carry and Conceal" and "Castle Law for their homes and businesses" would be in effect!
Then the honest folks would handle their businesses without depending on stretched, no manpower, police force in Chicago that we have now!
Da Pelon
Hey Chuck, do an investigative report on your criminal brother.
Note that Mr. Goudie compares New York City with Chicago which is less than a third of the population of "the Big Apple".
I find it intriguing that this "investigative reporter" cavalierly ignores the fact that New York City has only one more city council member than Chicago's fifty aldermen.
Methinks that the honchos at the local ABC affiliate would not dare touch on this shocking fact with a 10-foot pole. Now why would that be?
While you're at it, can you offer any rebuttal to the fact that the most politically corrupt major city in the nation has no provisions for term limits and a voter recall referendum initative for our internationally notorious and sleazy city and county elected officials?
What say you, Channel 7?
(crickets)
Dont believe the shootings have anything to do with the economy or the number of police on the street. Things like this run in cycles and shit just happens, really no way of preventing it. On warm weekends during the summer, one will have 20 shootings and the next weekend with the same weather and amount of police on the street will have 10, just like murders, most are not preventable and if the police are present the offender waits until they leave or he goes to a different location and commits the murder or robbery
another thing that is way up is " the police not giving a fuck "--- working coppers are finally starting to see what shaky bosses and ipra can do to a mans career--- don't become a trophy for one of these useless liberal fucks--- working coppers get poked in the ass--- the dogs keep getting paid and don't lose any sleep--- become a dog....
another thing that is way up is " the police not giving a fuck "--- working coppers are finally starting to see what shaky bosses and ipra can do to a mans career--- don't become a trophy for one of these useless liberal fucks--- working coppers get poked in the ass--- the dogs keep getting paid and don't lose any sleep--- become a dog....
You point anything that resembles a gun and your dead if I can help it.-
THIS JUST IN!
Lt DS is still a jag.
That is all.
Unfortunately, media witch hunts against the police are at an all time high and continuing to increase every year.
-- all of which F.O.P. spokesman Pat Camden says allows more guns to stay on the street.
Why don't the FOP worry about our contract and stay out of the gun issue.....................
Teacher says " every time a cop gets hurt a politician gets a photo-op" !
Merry Christmas everyone. Merry Christmas.
Rise in police shootings are directly a result of SOS being disbanded. Who on the south side drew a line in the sand and if it was crossed there was hell to pay. Now as it has always been, there is only a handful of coppers who abide by that rule. The rest drive by as the savages MF you. They challenged the coppers on the south side and they backed down. That was when it was lost. That is when they did not fear us any longer. Too many empty uniforms on the south side now. When Valadez was killed, we were sent to 007 and we locked up anything that moved. The entire building was filled with arrestees, but the arresting officers were all outside units. That in itself says volumes.
The criminals have lost their fear of the police.
The public is doomed.
12/23/2011 01:05:00 AM
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No doubt. When there is nothing left for them to lose it becomes survival of the fittest.
Although if you consider things from another perspective..a perspective that isn't sent to the public through the corporate mass media filters that twist and turn reality. Then, I suppose you could be referring to the investment bankers and the Washington regulators, etc.. that are the ones that have lost their fear of the law.
I agree and rightly so.
There's no fear of the police or the laws on Wall Street or with the people on the receiving end of the ill gotten "campaign contributions"
Over 200,000 frauds by Bank of America's Countrywide financial division for predatory lending alone and not one exec is in leg irons. Not one!
Don't even get me started on the credit default swap frauds based upon lies as to the credit worthiness of mortgages being bundled or the robo-signing mockery of court affidavits being fraudulently filed.
So what is there to fear?
Lisa Madigan cuts a plea bargain deal with Bank of America as they buy their way out. NO FEAR THERE.
The mainstream media presents that plea bargain deal as a great success that we should all revel around and be proud of -- we should all be happy because some unknown anon source that is supposed to be an expert in these matters says it's good we should all just take their word that it's all good...Well I'm not happy are you?
Get tough politicians with great media fanfare sign new laws like they are going to fix this problem right here and now by creating new departments. However in smaller and lessor seen meetings those new departments get neutered with little to no funding to be able to do anything meaningful.
So who you kidding? I said it before and will keep saying it. Broken Windows MY ASS.
Broken Windows bullshit is being used as psychological bullshit to relieve the officers guilt and shame for applying more pressure on the middle class and poverty stricken.
Broken Windows is being used as a distraction away from the REAL crimes against humanity. All those professional courtesy crimes of the clouted ones.
Broken Windows is being used to give officers a sense of accomplishment and worth while the corrupt organized crimes run rampant.
I'll tell you what.
You can take the top ten biggest bust over the last year here in Chicago or in Illinois for that fact and add them up -- it doesn't even come close to the crimes that the CEO's and the politicians are pulling off and the number of victims that were impacted by those crimes.
So don't give me this Broken Windows shit until you start busting people at the top where it can really make a difference.
GO sell it to someone else.
WTF do you expect....2,500 plus coppers short....units that are just nothing more then history and a corruption running rampant in elected officials... adds up to a whole lot of shit getting deeper by the month....
12/23/2011 01:44:00 AM
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AMEN!
By this spring I think we will all be asked to turn our weapons against our own people in order to protect the corruption.
We all need to think about that.
In 1968 the mayoral order was to "shoot to kill" and what's coming down now is worse than the 1968 DNC
Repression breeds aggression.
Speaking of NYPD:
Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly today presided over a graduation ceremony for 1,519 new police officers at Madison Square Garden.
1500 recruits, can you imagine that????????
To 5:48:00
The state of the economy has ZERO to do with crime. Most of these criminals are repeat offenders going back to when the economy si good and bad.
The simple reason people commit crimes is because they are born predators.
12/23/2011 08:30:00 AM
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No my friend.
You obviously are making that conclusion on whether the economy has been good to you or your circle of acquaintances. There are segments of this population where the economy hasn't bee good to them in the last 20 years or more.
Some will argue oh here we go with the discrimination bull. Don't you know we passed laws that prevent that stuff today and you must be living in the past?
Heh..well look around my friend. We supposedly passed laws about access to the disabled too and check out how those laws are working for that copper that SCC just posted about and his service dog.
We have a figurehead preaching Broken Window sermons while Bank of America's Countrywide divisions exploited 200,000 minorities targeting black and Hispanics and others and we are suppose to believe that there are laws to protect us from this? Bullshit!
This myth that "you were just born into poverty and will remain there so accept it" is a tired mantra.
That you have to get a good educations and when you do that you are told that you have the wrong education in a non-stop jumping thru hoops game is over.
We, society has a choice. Either we create a product path and opportunity for the less fortunate or we deal with the consequences. That's how survival mode works no matter how good the economy is for you -- it's not necessarily good for us all.
Fuck Chuck Goudie!!!
Anonymous said...
(OT) I am a fireman, but have family that are police, and this blog really tells the truth about how fucked up this city is! Just FYI for the coppers on the west end of 008,last night my catalytic convertor was stolen from my jeep,was at the gym on Archer this morning turns out I was not the only 1! Hope the boss in 008 kup will put some tact cars west of pulaski and stop pampering the animals! But then again when O'Grady gets moved to 008 from narcotics and kup goes there maybe real change will happen on the west end where people pay their bills!
12/23/2011 11:19:00 AM
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On top of that burglaries are through the roof on Beats 811 and 812!
Can someone please tell that commander of 008 that we need help over here on the westend of 008.
Here's a great website to have your families stay informed:
http://chicago.everyblock.com/
You type in your address or block and you can get continual updates and comments form neighbors in the area.
December 23, 2011
Obama Targeting Police Nationwide to Divert from Fast and Furious
By Rachel Alexander
12/23/2011
Either there has been a huge increase in discrimination by law enforcement during the Obama administration, or Obama is targeting law enforcement for politically motivated reasons.
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Discrimination by law enforcement officials? Hell yeah!
Discrimination by political officials? HELL YEAH!
A trick bag by the city mayors that think their police forces are their private armies to do as they please with complete immunity.
When the shit comes down and that clout that you though you had to protect you disappears there will be no-one to protect you. We know who the guilty parties are. We see how unequally the laws are being applied. Not all of you but enough of you.
You will be judged by your own actions and not be able to hide behind your orders by your superiors.
Think! You have a brain Use it!
Why are the journalist and photographers being targeted if there is no wrong doing? Why is Chicago threatening people with felonies for taking pictures if there's nothing bad or wrong going on?
Been There, Done That said...
Point a gun at me - win a 147 gr prize.
It ain't rocket science
12/23/2011 01:27:00 PM
I sure hope you still aren't using that BS 147 gr ammo. We are issued 124 plus P now. Much better
I just spoke to Mr. RICHARD MAGINN, the executive producer for tonight's 10 PM news on WLS-TV Channel 7. Mr. Chuck Goudie was "unavailable". Like the rest of local media, Mr. Maginn is aware of the SCC blog site. I cited this specific thread including my (above) 4 PM comment herein. In our cordial conversation, Mr. Maginn asked if I had seen their entire video including the televised comments by FOP spokesman Pat Camden. Yes, I replied.
Mr. Maginn has my contact information. I will inform you on SCC in the event that WLS-TV responds to this thread and specifically my
post. WLS-TV phone: (312)750-7070.
Please be careful out there, guys. A nanosecond of indecision against a reasonably perceived mortal threat can be the difference between life and death. Stay safe!
(Sgt.) John Northen (Ret.)
Chicago Police Department (and damn proud of it)
Anonymous said...
Rise in police shootings are directly a result of SOS being disbanded. Who on the south side drew a line in the sand and if it was crossed there was hell to pay. Now as it has always been, there is only a handful of coppers who abide by that rule. The rest drive by as the savages MF you. They challenged the coppers on the south side and they backed down. That was when it was lost. That is when they did not fear us any longer. Too many empty uniforms on the south side now. When Valadez was killed, we were sent to 007 and we locked up anything that moved. The entire building was filled with arrestees, but the arresting officers were all outside units. That in itself says volumes.
12/23/2011 06:29:00 PM
Dont break your arm patting yourself on the back buddy. The District guys have to run from job to job all the time. When you working in a unit like SOS you have time after your 3 hour lunch to stop people on the street. And if you think anyone is impressed at your one bagger arrests guess again.
Someone who has worked in districts and units.
OT new dirictive out cracking down on limited duty status. All the dogs at 35th street up in arms.
You pretty much have 365 days to use for your whole career on limted duty and at that point you either go back on the street or disability.
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12/23/2011 11:32:00 AM
Anonymous said...
"The criminals have lost their fear of the police.
The public is doomed."
12/23/2011 01:05:00 AM
This is exactly the problem. Until the city stands behind their officers and quit paying out multimillion dollar lawsuits to these mutts they will continue to be emboldened and will stand up to the cops. Once the pendulum starts swinging the other way this will only get worse. Stay safe my brothers, whatever department you serve with.
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I guess that you are saying that because an individual can win the ghetto lottery by gettin shot by the police, folks are more inclined to try to enter by threatening thepolice. Come on that is kind of ridiculous.
I watched the interview on the posted link. If you ever visit our SCC counterpart, THEE RANT, you know that our PC Ray "Popeye" Kelly is a doofus. He had a lot of chutzpah to throw in his "restraint" remark when comparing the NYPD with the CPD.
FVCK POPEYE!
BTW, nice turnout by the CPD at Pete Figoski's funeral. Stay safe, guys.
Hey 629 pm... Get over yourself you fucking bone stroke. You and all the other elite tough guys accomplished NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. You just keep sticking your neck out you jackass and see where it gets you. GIVE NOTHING BUT THE MINIMUM FOR THE SAVAGES AND CONCENTRATE YOUR EFFORTS ON THE HOMELAND WHERE GOOD NORMAL PEOPLE LIVE. Quit trying to save the animals that don't want to be saved and would kill you in a heartbeat if they had to. College may have made you book smart but you're as dumb as the day is long.
No go put some more hair gel in you idiot.
Map the aggravated batteries/homicide by firearm of citizens in the city. Then map the police involved shootings. You will see a clear picture why police shootings are up. For more insight, map the locations of most batteries to police officers. Its not rocket science. Its not manpower or sleep deprivation or any other issue in my opinion. It is merely more brazen armed violence in the city. Because of that, the police have to do what they have to do to protect citizens and themselves.
Just curious ???
How many of current command staff are veterans? (military)
Capt. & above ?
Lts ?
I'd suspect that there will be an obvious enhancement in morale of the officers under their command
(excluding E. Carter)
Evidently you have never been in the military, where there are just as many Boneheaded bosses.
A better headline: This has been a tumultuous year for offenders who like to aim guns at Chicago Police officers.
12/23/2011 07:54:00 AM
Well said.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
Things have changed so much since I came on the job 29 years ago. No respect. No fear of the police. No consequences for attacking the cops. Too many consequences for us for simply defending ourselves. Constant criticism from the media. Nobody appreciates us anymore. I can't wait to get out. This City is doomed.
12/23/2011 08:41:00 AM
Um, what are you waiting for?
Over 18 million vistors, SCC. Rock on!
Just like Shortshanks before him, the local MSM is in Rahm's hip pocket.
Chuck Goudie would try to sensationalize a bowl of matzo ball soup. They must really believe that all of us are morons.
As an Officer who was able to defend my life this year, FUCK YOU chuck goudie.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) I am a fireman, but have family that are police, and this blog really tells the truth about how fucked up this city is! Just FYI for the coppers on the west end of 008,last night my catalytic convertor was stolen from my jeep,was at the gym on Archer this morning turns out I was not the only 1! Hope the boss in 008 kup will put some tact cars west of pulaski and stop pampering the animals! But then again when O'Grady gets moved to 008 from narcotics and kup goes there maybe real change will happen on the west end where people pay their bills!
12/23/2011 11:19:00 AM
I am a copper and they got mine last night also,area of 52nd and Austin hope they get caught soon,we surely need more coppers west end of 008! Have you called ald. Zalewski? 773-582-4444 he should also do something!
Why don't the FOP worry about our contract and stay out of the gun issue.....................
12/23/2011 05:44:00 PM
Please tell me you are not a police officer. Regardless, you are an idiot.
Camden continually speaks up for us and goofs like you do not appreciate it.
Say what you will about Mike Shields, but hiring Camden and utilizing Donahue in Springfield, not isolating him or ignoring him, even though an ex-FOP President is automatically hired as the FOP lobbyist, were quite a couple of wise moves by President Shields.
Rise in police shootings are directly a result of SOS being disbanded. Who on the south side drew a line in the sand and if it was crossed there was hell to pay. Now as it has always been, there is only a handful of coppers who abide by that rule. The rest drive by as the savages MF you. They challenged the coppers on the south side and they backed down. That was when it was lost. That is when they did not fear us any longer. Too many empty uniforms on the south side now. When Valadez was killed, we were sent to 007 and we locked up anything that moved. The entire building was filled with arrestees, but the arresting officers were all outside units. That in itself says volumes.
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SOS R.I.P...move on old-timer
@ 12/23/2011 08:27:00 PM...
"A trick bag by the city mayors that think their police forces are their private armies to do as they please with complete immunity."
Say What? O_o ?
WTF does that have to do with the topic at hand you angst ridden, didn't get your ass beat enough by mummy & daddy, Ritalin-head?
Another "occupy something" nitwit heard from.
When you smoke that shit, try not to spout off on an adult blog with that idea that sounded so good among your friends. It makes people want to break your fingers in order to deny you web access...
We, society has a choice. Either we create a product path and opportunity for the less fortunate or we deal with the consequences. That's how survival mode works no matter how good the economy is for you -- it's not necessarily good for us all.
12/23/2011 07:12:00 PM
i have a tried and proven true product path, with built-in ample opportunity for the less fortunate, defined consequences, and an excellent track record.
do i qualify for an attaboy from you, buddy?
Chalkie
Why are the journalist and photographers being targeted if there is no wrong doing? Why is Chicago threatening people with felonies for taking pictures if there's nothing bad or wrong going on?
12/23/2011 08:27:00 PM
because your definition of 'bad or wrong' ain't the same as my definition.
Chalkie
You obviously are making that conclusion on whether the economy has been good to you or your circle of acquaintances. There are segments of this population where the economy hasn't bee good to them in the last 20 years or more.
Some will argue oh here we go with the discrimination bull. Don't you know we passed laws that prevent that stuff today and you must be living in the past?
Heh..well look around my friend. We supposedly passed laws about access to the disabled too and check out how those laws are working for that copper that SCC just posted about and his service dog.
We have a figurehead preaching Broken Window sermons while Bank of America's Countrywide divisions exploited 200,000 minorities targeting black and Hispanics and others and we are suppose to believe that there are laws to protect us from this? Bullshit!
This myth that "you were just born into poverty and will remain there so accept it" is a tired mantra.
That you have to get a good educations and when you do that you are told that you have the wrong education in a non-stop jumping thru hoops game is over.
We, society has a choice. Either we create a product path and opportunity for the less fortunate or we deal with the consequences. That's how survival mode works no matter how good the economy is for you -- it's not necessarily good for us all.
You sound like someone who is well educated. Alas, methinks you have no real world experience. I'm sure your THEORIES about the hardships facing the residents of the lower socio-economic segment of society and the rosy solutions to these hardships sounded like music to your ears when they were presented to you in the safe environment of a college classroom. I would know. The problem is when you take those THEORIES and attempt to practically apply them to the real world. It doesn't work. I like Nature vs Nurture. There will never be a shortage of shitbird gang-banger leaches of society with no respect for life or property. How did they get his way? I would argue they were not born as shitbirds, but their personalities evolved with environmental influences that only the ghetto can uniquely provide. If grandma is trying to raise you on one meal a day while she smokes crack with the new boyfriend of the week while you run around in a Walgreens plastic bag substituting as diapers while your mother is out smoking leaf and making another sibling for you...............you're fucked. The odds are very high that the streets will raise you and you will become a gang-banging shitbird. And you know what? If fucking Bill Cosby is ridiculed for preaching personal responsibility for the black community, what fucking shot do you think YOU have with your bullshit abstract THEORIES? If you speak of a need for personal responsibility in the ghetto, you are automatically labeled as RACIST. That is why the ghetto is fucked.
By the way, here's something that your college educated mind will have a hard time wrapping itself around. Many people in the ghetto do not WANT your life. They already get free housing, free money from social security from some bullshit "disability" (anger problem, bi-polar, can't read, was shot, etc), free groceries, and free housing. Why in the HELL would they want to work forty plus hours a week at a job and pay for everything themselves? Wake the fuck up. Take your THEORIES and go get your fuckin shine box.
- A COP
Goudie couldn't find a real news story to save his life . He's more interested in exposing what vacationing fishermen are doing while out of town, instead of doing some real work. Just a pitiful news pimp...
There are segments of this population where the economy hasn't bee good to them in the last 20 years or more.
Tell those segments to get off their collective bottoms!
We, society has a choice. Either we create a product path and opportunity for the less fortunate or we deal with the consequences.
We tried that, with so many failed programs (i.e. Head Start, Great Society, people welfare, corporate welfare, etc.). More funding for more failed programs isn't the answer.
Create a society, akin to Little House on the Prairie, where one works and eats. If one doesn't work, one doesn't eat.
It worked then and can work now.
go sit on a cactus goudie, you douche......signed, Chicago Cop.
This myth that "you were just born into poverty and will remain there so accept it" is a tired mantra.
That you have to get a good educations and when you do that you are told that you have the wrong education in a non-stop jumping thru hoops game is over.
We, society has a choice. Either we create a product path and opportunity for the less fortunate or we deal with the consequences. That's how survival mode works no matter how good the economy is for you -- it's not necessarily good for us all.
12/23/2011 07:12:00 PM
What is tired is your "it's not their fault - you would do the same if you were disadvantaged" mantra.
There are plenty of poor people that manage to better themselves. There are plenty of poor people that manage decent lives on what they earn.
Society has been too kind to the criminal. There is too much forgiveness. Make people, people of all economic groups responsible for what they do and the world becomes a better place.
Fuck forgiveness. Let society witness punishment....... and merry Christmas to the good people.
Anonymous said...
Rise in police shootings are directly a result of SOS being disbanded. Who on the south side drew a line in the sand and if it was crossed there was hell to pay. Now as it has always been, there is only a handful of coppers who abide by that rule. The rest drive by as the savages MF you. They challenged the coppers on the south side and they backed down. That was when it was lost. That is when they did not fear us any longer. Too many empty uniforms on the south side now. When Valadez was killed, we were sent to 007 and we locked up anything that moved. The entire building was filled with arrestees, but the arresting officers were all outside units. That in itself says volumes.
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SOS R.I.P...move on old-timer
12/23/2011 11:49:00 PM
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
Anyone I ever worked with in SOS late 90's to mid 2000's wouldn't come on here to brag or toot their horn.
Maybe you were proud of the results and effect of the unit thats cool and so were we but STEALTH mode and being humble speaks volumes too!
We know what we did and so did the Department and even the shitheads when they saw the beat tags 4300, 4400, 4600 they knew what was coming! Its over now.
I worked the 4300 side for "the Baron" (not saying which team) I put my share of pictures up on the Jimmy Darling tote board. Point being I respected my time there and met great guys and for the past 3 years we have had a Xmas gathering at the Web pub in 014 coordinated by NH.
God Bless you and be careful out there and show up next year and we can B.S. about Sgt. K.B's sunday car inspections and the auto parts that use to be collected by the guys from all over 011 and put on his desk!
I remember when they put a whole rear fender on there!
Good Times...
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Anonymous said...
OT new dirictive out cracking down on limited duty status. All the dogs at 35th street up in arms.
You pretty much have 365 days to use for your whole career on limted duty and at that point you either go back on the street or disability.
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12/23/2011 09:38:00 PM
About time. Screen out the sbusers and force them to make a decision. Street duty or disability. There are officers that have been on light or limited duty for years. This has to stop. There are limited duty officers for non-duty related reasons in every unit. Time to make a choice. I hope the department enforces the new rules soon.
Were these police shootings ” innies” or ” outies”?
Innies don't count!!!
We can't stand these clueless morons that try to 2nd guess how we respond to mutts that are trying to kill us. We can't win with the media and there crooked politician buddies. Thank you Sgt. Northen for speaking up for us since we can't use our names here. It's great that you use your name and great reputation as a street cop that you fight the good fight for us who can't give our names. I would not hold my breath waiting for Channel 7 to reply about the # of aldermen in the other big cities. I read your earlier comment that Chicago should have only 17 aldermen not 50. They know that we know this whole city is crooked as a cork screw. Nothing is legit on this job. It's all clout. Thanks again, sarge. I wish I could have worked for you. Merry Christmas.
Who is Chuck Goudie to have the nerve to speak on life or death police situations he knows nothing about.
I checked Northern's post under "Cross Your Fingers!" blog. I'm a believer. Like the other big cities, Chicago population needs only 17 aldermen. Ch. 7 is in bed with the democRAT politicians so the subject is off limits. They are phonies just like the Fibune and ScumTimes.
What a fucking load this is!
We direct everyone's attention to the newest realease from the 9.5 & Co. Ministry of Fuckery, Propaganda & Media Spin/Manipulation...
Sunday Fibune Op/Ed screed...
Steve Chapman is breathlessly rotating his dentures about how "crime is falling" and how the current mean season being endured by The Police is "The Golden Age of Law Enforcement."
*Joker Style Laughter*
HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHAHAHAH!
Golden Age according to who? O_o ?
DOJ/FBI have been on record for decades about how Chicago crime stats as compiled (with direct oversight/interferrence by City Hall) aren't worth the ink on the paper they're written on.
To paraphrase a once upon a time math instructor... "A viable constant rubbed against a bullshit variable makes for a horseshit product..."
shortshanks and 9.5 didn't/don't want the "constants" to be known because the numbers are just that bad. That's why so many bullshit variables are making for an overabundance of horseshit products (answers).
This op-ed as all the makings of concerted push-back by 9.5 in light of the Chicago Magazine article regarding the alliance of shit-heads & politicians going a long way toward making this city unlivable for the captive taxpaying citizen.
The cartographic overlays of gang territories, homicides and failing schools as posted by SCC had to have been EYE OPENING to a LOT OF PEOPLE!
Chapman was forced to kneel & swallow... Well not really... Media types here will stoop, kneel and bend over of their own volition because they not only have no collective spine but also because they glory in the whoredoms they've committed against the citizens of this city.
Called shot is bullshit... Corner pocket...
*CLACK*
The Golden Era of The War Against The Police is more like it...
These motherless fucks are trying so desperately to sell the most funky, off-brand sort of crazy that even THEY whole-heartedly embrace it knowing full well the sheer fuckery of it all...
Sell crazy somewhere else. We're stocked clear up to the ceiling with that shit...
The Policeman mutters "Viva Hate" under his breath as he rolls to the next backlogged job...
Merry Christmas to the too thin Blue Line...
Stay safe and watch out for each other.
It galls the powers that be to know that there are still people who believe Policemen as a whole are very precious...
The bestest, craziest, maddest, baddest, most big hearted, funnest & funniest soldiers in God's Army!
What the hell does "more guns on the street" have to do with police shootings? The police are the ones doing the shooting and their guns are legal, not the criminals.
This perpetuates the myth that an offender needs to have a gun to be a threat worthy of shooting and that "guns on the street" are a bad thing. In the hands of a gangbanger they are, but not in the hands of a law-abiding citizen. The media never differentiates between the two and these sounds bites don't help.
Chicago media and politicians are in it together. They are as crooked as a dog's hind leg.
What is the latest mapping and statistics relating concentrations of parolees, felon probationers and gangs? Consider some involvement in education of fine youth. It doesn't take a genius to figure end result.
I was and still am a working copper, I was in the old SOs and MSF, as a Sgt. I held my team to high standards, My team never stole a pinch, when we worked in the districts I made it mandatory that we always took in the in progress jobs, we were first to assist any district unit. If we got to a job first, we would give disregards hoping that we would be doing a district x\car a favor or not having to run across the distct on a BS job, but many a times we were chastised on the zone for doing just that, Many officers really were grateful for the helping hand, but the dogasses thought they were getting screwed because they would want to spent alot of time down on some bullshit job. go figure, bottom line is the city can't make it without outside units helping out. Bottom line is the sooner the workingcops band together and the Sgts. and Lts. stop protecting the useless non working coppers the safer we all will be, how do you justify 3 hrs on a battery arrest.
the census report states chicago is down 20,000 + residents, so in reality the numbers are out the fucking roof.
Anonymous said...
I was and still am a working copper, I was in the old SOs and MSF, as a Sgt. I held my team to high standards, My team never stole a pinch, when we worked in the districts I made it mandatory that we always took in the in progress jobs, we were first to assist any district unit. If we got to a job first, we would give disregards hoping that we would be doing a district x\car a favor or not having to run across the distct on a BS job, but many a times we were chastised on the zone for doing just that, Many officers really were grateful for the helping hand, but the dogasses thought they were getting screwed because they would want to spent alot of time down on some bullshit job. go figure, bottom line is the city can't make it without outside units helping out. Bottom line is the sooner the workingcops band together and the Sgts. and Lts. stop protecting the useless non working coppers the safer we all will be, how do you justify 3 hrs on a battery arrest.
12/25/2011 09:16:00 PM
The same way you justify three cars on a nickel bag.
10:12 PM:
Get your Chicago population* facts accurate.
YEAR POPULATION (U.S. City Rank)
1950 3,620,962 (#2)
2000 2,896,016 (#3)
2010 2,695,598 (#3)
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2000-2010 LOSS: 200,418
Since the (peak) 1950 census, Chicago has had a population loss of 925,364.
*SOURCE: U.S. Census Bureau
The opening salvo so that police will be unarmed for the G8.
Goudie is being used - surprise!!!!!
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