Hoff Gets a New Job
Gee, does this sound like a guy who was ready to quit and enjoy more time with his family?
- Recently-retired Chicago Fire Commissioner Robert Hoff was hired as a deputy fire chief for the Carol Stream Fire Protection District.
The district's board of trustees on Monday voted 3 to 2 to hire Hoff, 56, a third-generation hero firefighter for the $115,000-a-year position.
Hoff had previously indicated that his departure was to spend more time with his family.
The Daily Herald story is here.
Anyone else want to call "bullshit" on the administration's take that Hoff was ready to retire and his going head-to-head with Rahm over manning and safety issues had nothing to do with it?
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posted by SCC at 5:31 AM
142 Comments:
YAY for you, Bob Hoff!!! Congratulations and all the best to you.
You ESCAPED.
I just wonder why Hoff is keeping mum about everything. If he's such a stand-up guy why doesn't he blow the lid off of 9.5's plans? No doubt he's a good guy, but keeping 9.5's secrets?
They voted 3 to 2? Im sure Mr Hoff can count on the "2" for support thru out his career there....
You know what, when you are a city dept manager, you can either do as you are told by the mayor, or move on. Hoff moved on. That's just the way it is. And it has to be that way. Everyone has a boss, even the boss.
yeah...it's all legit, really.
God Bless Him He spoke truth to power
G8 NATO will force out the Clouted kiss asses
Good for him. Don't take rahms bull shit . NATO/g8 is going to be a mess. He is smart. Don't be around when all this bad shit hits the fan.
Another great leader gone! This city is going to shit so fast,and with g-8 bullshit coming fast we have no real leaders at all! Just a bunch of poseurs!
God Bless the guy. At least he stood up for his troops. I hope the guy makes a million dollars a year.
(OT) No G-8 help great job rambo with organizing,maybe you could try to intimidate them like you did is Washington with others?
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/video?id=8560675&pid=8560608
Anonymous said...
Don't expect to much. Since the new group took over the FOP they blow off all questions and don't have any answers. The contract expires in a little over three months and no word from the new crew on what we are going to be fighting for. I haven't seen a rep at roll call asking what officers would like to see or main points to fight for.
2/28/2012 12:12:00 AM
i could not agree more...they are silent...all mike shields ran on was a man power shortage...NOW WHAT?
He quit because he wanted to spend more time with his family! Yeah right Rahm forced him out because he won't go along with closing fire-houses and cutting firemen he already closed Police stations and refuses to hire any Policemen even being almost 5000 short! Rahm is nothing but a liar and con man, where is all the tax dollars going? Somebody has to pay for his G8 and NATO summit for the Politicans, Canada spent 800 million Rahm says Chitcago will spend 65 million!
Hoff's a great guy. Phil and MK wish him the best.
My friend is a former firefighter and is good friends with Hoff and I know for a fact that he retired because he did not agree with the mayor. He is to much of a class act to get into a pissing match on tv or go back on his word to his men.
the envious are slow to praise, and quick to critize.
The Raccoon's bullshit is so transparently obvious. Robert Hoff is the real deal with brass balls.
Poor guy decided to work for half rather than kiss Rahm's ass. Santiago will be Rahm's hatchet man and close fire houses. Do you think and fire houses in the ghetto are going to be closed! Washington DC rejoiced when this little turd decided to leave and come to Chicago. Now we're stuck him until some other jag Dummycrat decides to run against him.
No secret the Racoon wanted Hoff gone. Spending more time with the family is a favorite out. Hoff was a very decent guy who was for his men. The Racoon has plans for the fire dept. and Hoff would have been in the way. The new guy is a yes man and will do whatever he is told. A lot like our guy at 35th and Michigan. This is nothing new. Good luck to Hoff in his new job. At least he can sleep at night with a clear conscience.
Well that didn't take long now did it?
The only problem that I can see with the move is that he's still in Illinois.
Oh yeah...and this just in.
Chicago home prices fell another 2% in December making us number two in housing price declines second to only Detroit!!
Hey we can do better -- we're number one right?
Anyways imagine that. The loss in value on a $250,000 home is another $5,000 dollars.
How long does it take you to earn $5,000 dollars. How many hours, weeks, months? But wait! We need to look at your take home pay of $5,000 dollars after taxes and so if you are just dividing your pre-tax earnings while doing the math just add another ummm. say about $1,500 dollars since many homeowners are in the $33% tax bracket.
That's work being done for nothing, to break even maybe and who the heck knows if the prices are done falling!
And I ask..did your real estate taxes fall by another 2% or are we all going to raped paying taxes on the old valuations?
Like throwing money down a sinkhole in this place. The politicians borrow more money to help their friends and send the bill to us playing the guilt trip card that we are the ones living beyond our means when it's them using the debt they create as a tool to extract more tax revenues, fines, and fees.
Good luck Mr. Hoff..enjoy the view of the circus clowns in may from your location far-far away.
He just went down a more then a few notches in my book. If he and Tiny Dancer were bucking heads (and I am sure they were), then he should have told it like it was and stand up and fight for what he believed in instead of feeding everyone his line of B.S... Instead he tucks his tail between his legs and and pulls the plug. Typical! This is a microcosm of what is wrong with this county.
it looks like karen lewis has had enough of his bullshit as well--- look for a strike in september unless teachers are compensated for the added time they will be required to teach--- a lot of people are labeling the teachers as whiners--- bullshit, how would you feel if you were asked to work 90 minutes longer per day and ten extra days without any compensation--- especially after the board violated their contractual obligation to give teachers a 4 percent raise--- 500,000 kids may be getting an extended summer vacation unless rahmbo sucks it up and pays up....
Sure sounds like he got bought off with a cushy job to pad his pension. So much for he was a firemans fireman. Knowing a tough contract negotiation was on the horizon he ran. You don't get to that high up without being a sellout anyway. Don't worry fireman we know what its like to have a boss that runs from things. Now you guys know also.
Right about now is when Hoff should do an interview with Ben Javorsky or some nationally recognized media to get the REAL story out. A source that won't allow corrupt politicians to put the kibosh on the story before it even begins.
C'mon, Hoff! Spill the beans and air all the behind-the-scenes dirty laundry and expose this cesspool of a city and those that are in charge of 'running' it. Tell everyone how CPSs Karen Lewis wasn't exaggerating when she claims the Tiny Dancer mother-effed her in their one-on-one meeting because he was every bit as ignorant to you as well.
We already know that you're a man of courage and integrity, but as Paul Harvey would say, we'd love to get "the rest of the story".
Welcome to walmart folks.
I guess we will see if the "classic" Chicago style media just ignores it.
Sad, the folks get 3,000 plus short on officers, now they can get a skeleton crew with fire...
Anyone out there questioning the bullshit........ we'll see.
How much is his CFD pension again?
What a guy ,why didn't he leave after telling the truth .Why didn't the HERO say he was leaving due to the cuts that are coming. No he walked away from a fight he didn't have the stomach for or was fired and didn't have the balls to say why..And by the way this GUY said that G8 was CPD issue not the CFDs.
Hoff knows what Rahm is getting ready to do. Hoff couldnt or wouldnt come out publicly and tell of Rahm's master plan of gutting the fire dept. Although, the new Chief is willing to bend over his fireman for personal gain.
SO??
Our Homeowners Insurance rate calculations are based in part by the proximity to a Fire House, and response time to our houses. That being said- My Insurance agent said that we shouldnt be suprised by a 10-15% percent increase in my Homeowners Insurance rate.
Or it could just be the "fire chief fandango", where they work in a series of jobs to keep adding to their pension. Some fire chiefs work in three or four successive jobs to keep padding their retirement.
Well Hoff has some balls, unlike the Mcdrunk yes man we have running the show over here.
Of course rahm forced his hand,and now he has installed his lackey boy Santiago to finish the destruction of another once proud institution the Chicago firefighter! Watch and see boys and girls as firehouses close,and men are removed from the trucks,watch as the response times slow down and many die due to the slower response! You are seeing with CPD the decimation of this Department and now CFD will also few the "wrath of the dictator rahm." After all this nonsense at least rahm will be a 1 term-er and barry obama will be sent packing come Jan 2013!
With all the changes I must gave missed this one, headquarters is now called the Chicago Public Safety Building? When did this happen? Saw it in an email. Are they trying to rid this department of all history and tradition? I really hate our bosses that are killing our dept. Making changes to help effectiveness and cost us one thing but killing tradition Is another. It feels like they are purposely demoralizing their troops. I cannot find a reference to such in the Art Of War. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Signed: can't wait........
Good for him! Too bad he couldn't leave IL and be a chief out in a red state. But, I'm sure he will be happy out in Carol Stream away from the Chicago machine.
I'd love to hear him explain to the Taxpayers of this GREAT CITY, how the scumbag Mayor is playing politics with their safety.
Is anyone else as sick as me of the Rahm experience yet?
i wish tiny dancer 9.5 would find a new job.
Good Luck HOFF, it is Carol Stream's gain a Chicago loss. You are one of the best firefighters in the nation. If you left Chicago Fire Department because of safety issues you should have said so. The city needs to find ways to save money. There are ways to save money in the CFD budget. CFD Local #2 should provide the city with some cost saving ideas that will have the least impact of firefighter and public safety. P.S. Chief Hoff your travel time to work just went up by two hours a day.
Truth is - Promotional eligibilty list came out to test for the position of Battalion Chief.
There was not enough minorities on the list. The preachers got a hold of the list - and Called Jessie Jackson...who else.
JJ called Hoff. Told Hoff to put more minorities on the list. Hoff told him to Fuck off.
JJ called Rahm - threatened marches and boycotts - Rahm sided with JJ!!! Rahm called Hoff. Hoff said no fucking way. Rahm pressed him... Hoff resigned.
End of a great era...fucked up by them again.
Wish the news would pick this up...but I'm sure it would never come out. Expose JJ for the racist he really is!!
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel is expected to attend a New Trier High School fundraiser to receive an alumni achievement award next month
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Why doesn't Rahm do fundraisers for Chicago schools or for that matter fundraisers for Chicago taxpayers other then his own campaign or personal interest.
All these politicians are so good at fundraising. Burke, Rahm, Madigan, they can sock all that corporate money away for personal gains doing fundraisers for re-election and isn't it time that the taxpayers DEMAND that they leverage that expertise to bail out the city and the states budget crisis!!
These guys are full of it.
OT-heard a romor from a court Sgt. that McCarthy wants to bring back night narcotics court to reduce overtime...wtf
Preparing to rob the city pension funds. How long will it be?
You see what NY is doing?
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ALBANY — When New York State officials agreed to allow local governments to use an unusual borrowing plan to put off a portion of their pension obligations, fiscal watchdogs scoffed at the arrangement, calling it irresponsible and unwise.
And now, their fears are being realized: cities throughout the state, wealthy towns such as Southampton and East Hampton, counties like Nassau and Suffolk, and other public employers like the Westchester Medical Center and the New York Public Library are all managing their rising pension bills by borrowing from the very same $140 billion pension fund to which they owe money.
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=202655
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With the city and state so hard up for revenue how long will it be before they pull this here. Not just skip the pension contributions but borrow money from them and fill the pension with worthless IOU's.
You can't blame the guy, seriously I'd leave this crap ass city too if I had a job lined up and never look back
Rahm and the play rev's can have it!
CFD
is it true not enough AA would be able to take the upcoming chief's test,so J J put some heat (lol) on hoff who told J J to bite me.well J J calls rahm and the rest is history.
The man didn't even hit the ground before he had a new job.
The City of Chicago is run by peculiar aliens of various kinds, gangbangers, and thieves -- but other employers know a good thing when they see it.
The best of luck to you in your new position, Commissioner Hoff. Stay safe.
Ewwwwwwwww! I see the smoke of burning bullshit coming from TD 9.5eyes, ears and lying mouth!
I figured that out from the look on his face with that photo op with tiny dancer.
Hoff was already tired of Rahm's bullshit so he chose to leave. Can't blame the guy. Rahm's a complete asshole and after he's completely fucked up our department he's now hot his sights set on the fire department.
So does Carol Stream have 5 firemen on a rig?
OT --
The Occupy types are not much different from Richie "It's Da Money, Da Money, Da Money" Daley -- the politics of class resentment at work.
Here, their latest hoax. It was posted on SCC, too.
Update: Banker’s Insulting Waitress Tip Is a Hoax
By Melissa Knowles | Trending Now – 4 hrs ago
"Yesterday we reported a story about a banker who allegedly left a $1.33 tip on a $133 lunch bill at True Food Kitchen in Newport Beach, California. The story was shared all over the Web, and we received thousands of comments about the insulting remark written on the receipt.
"New developments suggest that the receipt from the restaurant may have been digitally altered. According to the website the Smoking Gun, True Food Kitchen's spokesperson said it found the original merchant copy of the receipt, and the one circulating the Internet was "altered and exaggerated." The original receipt does not contain the tip "Get a real job." Also, the real bill was for $33, not $133, and the tip given was $7, not $1.33.
"The blog that originally posted the receipt, Future Ex-Banker, was taken down Friday as well...."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/banker-insulting-waitress-tip-hoax-165556900.html
Little Mikey Shields isn't gonna do anything to piss off Rahm. They have already cut a deal.Mikey,why don't you tell us about the Director of Security gig you have at General Steel?The company is owned by one Rahm's friends and one his biggest political contributors($$$).Geez,Mikey,seems like you have a big conflict of interest there...
Saw Alderman Beale having lunch today with Jody Weiss at Yolk on South Michigan. No suprise, Beale showed up like 20 minutes late leaving Weiss to sit there twiddling his thumbs. What were they talking about???!!
He just went down a more then a few notches in my book. If he and Tiny Dancer were bucking heads (and I am sure they were), then he should have told it like it was and stand up and fight for what he believed in instead of feeding everyone his line of B.S... Instead he tucks his tail between his legs and and pulls the plug. Typical! This is a microcosm of what is wrong with this county.
2/28/2012 08:59:00 AM
Tucking his tail would have been him staying and being a puppet. Who says its bullshit? A 9-5 shift in a suburb does allow more time for family. Why dont you post your name, or better yet, pull the plug yourself?!!?!?!?
Anonymous said...
Little Mikey Shields isn't gonna do anything to piss off Rahm. They have already cut a deal.Mikey,why don't you tell us about the Director of Security gig you have at General Steel?The company is owned by one Rahm's friends and one his biggest political contributors($$$).Geez,Mikey,seems like you have a big conflict of interest there...
2/28/2012 03:25:00 PM
WTF? Seriously? If so, how do we impeach this little prick?
OT-heard a romor from a court Sgt. that McCarthy wants to bring back night narcotics court to reduce overtime...wtf
2/28/2012 01:58:00 PM
That's not his call. That's up to the presiding judge of cook county.
On 25 October 2011, Bob Hoff DARED to publicly state he was 'deathly against' cutting manpower on fire trucks, in a well-researched and well-prepared statement at City Council budget hearings.
On 16 Feb 2012, less than four months later, he resigned, telling fellow firefighters 'it's time'.
The man lived and breathed the job. Does anyone really think he left voluntarily? He was fired, plain and simple. Fired by a mean-spirited, petty individual who has no soul.
Anonymous said...
Don't expect to much. Since the new group took over the FOP they blow off all questions and don't have any answers. The contract expires in a little over three months and no word from the new crew on what we are going to be fighting for. I haven't seen a rep at roll call asking what officers would like to see or main points to fight for.
2/28/2012 12:12:00 AM
i could not agree more...they are silent...all mike shields ran on was a man power shortage...NOW WHAT?
2/28/2012 08:07:00 AM
You two can find the blog to complain anonymously but you can't locate the email address of any FOP officer to tell them what you would like to see in a new contract. Seems right. In the past the FOP had a web page up for officers to state what they would like in a new contract and few took advantage of it.
Below is an email link to make your wishes known, just write what you would like to see in a new contract.
mshields@chicagofop.org
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
Right about now is when Hoff should do an interview with Ben Javorsky or some nationally recognized media to get the REAL story out. A source that won't allow corrupt politicians to put the kibosh on the story before it even begins.
C'mon, Hoff! Spill the beans and air all the behind-the-scenes dirty laundry and expose this cesspool of a city and those that are in charge of 'running' it. Tell everyone how CPSs Karen Lewis wasn't exaggerating when she claims the Tiny Dancer mother-effed her in their one-on-one meeting because he was every bit as ignorant to you as well.
We already know that you're a man of courage and integrity, but as Paul Harvey would say, we'd love to get "the rest of the story".
2/28/2012 09:32:00 AM
Joravsky. It's Joravsky.
He just went down a more then a few notches in my book. If he and Tiny Dancer were bucking heads (and I am sure they were), then he should have told it like it was and stand up and fight for what he believed in instead of feeding everyone his line of B.S... Instead he tucks his tail between his legs and and pulls the plug. Typical! This is a microcosm of what is wrong with this county.
2/28/2012 08:59:00 AM
The man served for over 30 years. If he wants to walk away, who are you to tell him he should've stayed and fought? First off, we all know he would have lost the fight and then he would've got fired anyway. The man is 54 years old not 35. He completed his tour now shut up and finish yours.
Hoff may be a great guy, but he was maybe given the new job in exchange for keeping a lid on 9.5's plans for CFD. Because why would he take a #2 spot in a tiny town with the experience to run a huge department like CFD?
We already know that you're a man of courage and integrity, but as Paul Harvey would say, we'd love to get "the rest of the story".
2/28/2012 09:32:00 AM
why is it everyone here always seems to forget these people don't get promoted to these top spots without signing a CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT!!! ???
Not a ONE of these people are given that job without it. That means, no matter where you go or how you are pressured, you can't say anything to anyone about what the mayor told you to do or any other communications relating to that person being ordered to do something from the mayor.
Wise up kids.... these fools are just stupid enough to keep people around them who tell them what to do to hide from accountability. And that means airtight contracts that mean the guy with the big mouth gets sued for everything he's worth including their pensions, which are likely forfeited in the event of a violation of the agreement.
To 0755am,
you are saying that he stood up for his troops, why leave then and back them up 100%. Instead he leaves and goes to another department what a waste of a boss....
Hoff is caught up in a scandal with the former head of personnel. Seems as though one of Hoffs buddies was on medical status for 3 years. That and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that his age, his years of service, and the date the entrance test he took don't match up. Hoff wasn't 18 when he took the test.
Anonymous said...
Good for him! Too bad he couldn't leave IL and be a chief out in a red state. But, I'm sure he will be happy out in Carol Stream away from the Chicago machine.
2/28/2012 10:50:00 AM
The Chicago machine runs this whole state my friend!
We all knew Hoff's statement was political correctness. Hoff knew what Rahm is doing to the fire and police is dangerous to the public and first responders. Hoff didn't want any part of it and I'm sure he doesn't want to be anywhere near Rahm's G8/NATO debacle. Carol Stream is very luck to have Hoff!
Just another lying Boss.
prepare to get it stuck in your ass,CFD.
Anonymous said...
Little Mikey Shields isn't gonna do anything to piss off Rahm. They have already cut a deal.Mikey,why don't you tell us about the Director of Security gig you have at General Steel?The company is owned by one Rahm's friends and one his biggest political contributors($$$).Geez,Mikey,seems like you have a big conflict of interest there...
2/28/2012 03:25:00 PM
This better not be true. If so this is a HUGE problem for the police officers of chicago. Who knows about the details of this? If true an investigation must be done. There are many who could find out the truth so lets hear it.
Good for Hoff! He knows the danger Rahm's G8/NATO combo will bring. Everyone is bracing for this perfect storm. Police and Fire have no manpower and no support from city hall. Feel bad for all the businesses. This event will end Rahm unless he does the right thing and holds no bars.
I would love to read one of the contracts for Supt. and Fire Commish. There must be a clause that in order to receive the position, the person must never talk about deals made in city hall, bad mouth their respective department, and a gag clause once they leave the employment of the city. Why else wouldnt Hoff tell the citizens and media that they were trying to promote unqualified persons that deal with peoples lives and safety.
5 vs. 4 ? said...
So does Carol Stream have 5 firemen on a rig?
2/28/2012 02:54:00 PM
does carol stream have over half it's square millage occupied by ghetto scum?
Is anyone else as sick as me of the Rahm experience yet?
2/28/2012 12:15:00 PM
i'm getting there.
Chalkie
Anonymous said...
How much is his CFD pension again?
2/28/2012 09:44:00 AM
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I guess you're doing your 20 and retiring? No job after? Other than curiosity as a taxpayer, why do you care what his pension is?
Or it could just be the "fire chief fandango", where they work in a series of jobs to keep adding to their pension. Some fire chiefs work in three or four successive jobs to keep padding their retirement.
2/28/2012 10:25:00 AM
you mean like every damn politician does?
What a guy ,why didn't he leave after telling the truth .Why didn't the HERO say he was leaving due to the cuts that are coming. No he walked away from a fight he didn't have the stomach for or was fired and didn't have the balls to say why..And by the way this GUY said that G8 was CPD issue not the CFDs.
2/28/2012 10:17:00 AM
since you mentioned it, i was wondering, what do you use to get the taste of rambino's nuts out of your mouth?
or do you savor it?
Sure sounds like he got bought off with a cushy job to pad his pension. So much for he was a firemans fireman. Knowing a tough contract negotiation was on the horizon he ran. You don't get to that high up without being a sellout anyway. Don't worry fireman we know what its like to have a boss that runs from things. Now you guys know also.
2/28/2012 09:21:00 AM
sure sounds like you think that you're slick enough to slip in a little pre-discrediting bullshit, prior to the shitstorm being created by your crew of crisis makers guts our city's public safety employee unions.
as for what it takes to be a sellout, well, you are the expert on that, aren't you?
He just went down a more then a few notches in my book. If he and Tiny Dancer were bucking heads (and I am sure they were), then he should have told it like it was and stand up and fight for what he believed in instead of feeding everyone his line of B.S... Instead he tucks his tail between his legs and and pulls the plug. Typical! This is a microcosm of what is wrong with this county.
2/28/2012 08:59:00 AM
a little early in the day for you to be working your city hall paid for trolling job, isn't it?
You know what, when you are a city dept manager, you can either do as you are told by the mayor, or move on. Hoff moved on. That's just the way it is. And it has to be that way. Everyone has a boss, even the boss.
2/28/2012 07:03:00 AM
God, i'd hate to have to live with the shape your knees, ass, throat and lips must be in.
I just wonder why Hoff is keeping mum about everything. If he's such a stand-up guy why doesn't he blow the lid off of 9.5's plans? No doubt he's a good guy, but keeping 9.5's secrets?
2/28/2012 06:05:00 AM
what secrets?
or are you blind, deaf and stupid?
Swimming in the chicago swamp is much like swimming in the old "lampligher" complex swimming pools. You can catch the clap just by taking a dip.
Good luch Hoff, wherever you go.
Though there are some you say why didn't he stay and stand up to Rahm and how can he help the CFD if he quits lets be realistic. We all know that it is not possible to fight and win against our City's corrupt political system.
Hoff instead choose to quit so the disaster that is the G8, there reduction of apparatus manpower and the closing of firehouses would not be on his watch.
We must realize that quitting probably cost him around 30,000 a year in pension because he only had two years as Commissioner. Secondly he then takes a DEPUTY Chief job in a suburb for 75,000 less a year. Third he has to move from the neighborhood where he has spent his whole life and relocate to Carol Stream probably requiring him to sell his house in the worst housing market in 50 years.
This is a proud man who had to make a difficult decision with high personal costs to stand up to Rahm. At least he had the balls to tell him to get f'd unlike 99.9% of the "white shirts" on this job.
Cheers Sir.
All these guys are forced out. Its the game. Don't start controversy. Look at 1st Deputy J Jackson, left to go fishing and now is the head on North Chicago Police Department. B Hoff you and many more left be for the bottom falls out.
Mayor Daley is the same as Mayor Emanuel.
Another eagle has passed on.
Lynn "Buck" Compton, age 90, passed away 25 Feb 2012.
During WWII Buck Compton was a Lieutenant in Company E (East Company) of the 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment in the 101st Airborne Division. Lt. Compton's character was portrayed in the series Band Of Brothers by actor Neal McDonough.
Lt. Compton joined the Los Angeles Police Department after WWII, rising to the rank of Detective before leaving the police department in 1951.
God speed Lt.
Hoff had a choice: Keep my $200k//yr. job and deal with the biggest weasel the City has ever seen, or take my Commissioner's Pension and a 115k/yr. Job at a Department with a state of the art training facility, my good friend as my boss, and 1/16th of the BS? What would you do?
Did anyone actually hear the news tonight? They are implementing a 6 (six) year high school? OMG So, instead of GED being a red flag on a resume... now 6 years of High School!
Don't you know it's for the children.More b/s from one of our leaders.It's their nature to double talk. One minute I need to spend more time with the family. So what's he going to do bring them to work with him.
Remember to vote against Patrick Daley Thompson on 20 March!
In case you didn't know, he's Richie's nephew running for Met. Water Reclamation Board.
Do your part to stop this monstrous candidacy.
Request a Democratic ballot and vote against a Daley!
My fireman relative said the same thing as a another post. The straw that broke the camels back was that Rahm wanted Hoff to hire minorities and figure out a way to justify skipping over whites that scored high on the eligibility list.
Off subject SCC...
Interesting article by CPD LT.Robert Weisskopf: Kid- This Job Ain't What Is Used To Be. So far the only "Rank" that publicly talks about G8 NATO fiasco to be......
HTTP://lawenforcementtoday,
Google it..
Tx
The two main reasons the City of Chicago operates or I should say functions is the Chicago Police Dept. and the Chicago Fire Department. Without either it would be total chaos. Maybe, just maybe, this G8/NATO BS. will give some of the sleeping citizens of this once great city a little idea of what would happen if these departments were unable to carry out their assignments. First responders are the first line of defense. We all know that there are large portions of this city that cannot take care of themselves. This could be very intersting. Good Luck and God Bless all first responders.
OT. This Sunday 04 Mar at Bourbon Street the CPD Enforcers will be having their fundraiser. Red Rebel County will be performing.
O.T., but a guy in 009 just put in his retirement papers, and he said the union told him 400 people put in papers in recent weeks. He is kind of an exaggerator, so does anyone know if this is really true?? Thanks.
Anonymous said...
My fireman relative said the same thing as a another post. The straw that broke the camels back was that Rahm wanted Hoff to hire minorities and figure out a way to justify skipping over whites that scored high on the eligibility list.
2/28/2012 08:03:00 PM
If this is true Hoff better blow the whistle all over the media. Someone will listen. Otherwise I call BS, but it's always possible in chicago.
Anonymous said...
Of course rahm forced his hand,and now he has installed his lackey boy Santiago to finish the destruction of another once proud institution the Chicago firefighter! Watch and see boys and girls as firehouses close,and men are removed from the trucks,watch as the response times slow down and many die due to the slower response! You are seeing with CPD the decimation of this Department and now CFD will also few the "wrath of the dictator rahm." After all this nonsense at least rahm will be a 1 term-er and barry obama will be sent packing come Jan 2013!
2/28/2012 10:47:00 AM
Wake up and smell the shitballs dude. Rahm will be here as long as he wants. Until he decides to run for governor which he will romp through I'm sure. Do you remember the state you live in?
Congratulations, you are outta this shit hole!!!!!
General Iron Industries,1909 N.Clifton.
You guys wanted Daley out...Sorry but, this is what you get.
This was sent to me by a great friend of mine that works for the Chgo Fire Dept. Please read and pass along.
To all my Chicago/Cook County friends ,please do not RE-ELECT JUDGE CLAYTON CRANE...Two Chicago Fire Department Paramedics were assaulted by a person when they went to assist him.This miserable hack said that… being assaulted is just part of a Paramedics Job.No your Honor it is not part of a Paramedics Job to be assaulted,but it is however your job to enforce the Law and you failed..PLEASE VOTE THIS HACK OUT OF OFFICE
Hoff was forced out whether they told him to leave or he did on principal. CFD is in for a lot of changes and a rough ride. Cuts and realignments are coming after G8 NATO. I wouldn't want to work there right now because it won't be pretty
God, i'd hate to have to live with the shape your knees, ass, throat and lips must be in.
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How are your knees doing these days? You still collecting your paycheck?
I thought so.
All talk.
O.T., but a guy in 009 just put in his retirement papers, and he said the union told him 400 people put in papers in recent weeks. He is kind of an exaggerator, so does anyone know if this is really true?? Thanks.
Maybe a slightly high number, I would guess that the actual number is more like 200-230.
But bailing out now is like rats jumping ship.
I jumped about a year ago. Now instead of watching the circus from a front row seat, I watch it on a wide screen TV.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Little Mikey Shields isn't gonna do anything to piss off Rahm. They have already cut a deal.Mikey,why don't you tell us about the Director of Security gig you have at General Steel?The company is owned by one Rahm's friends and one his biggest political contributors($$$).Geez,Mikey,seems like you have a big conflict of interest there...
2/28/2012 03:25:00 PM
WTF? Seriously? If so, how do we impeach this little prick?
2/28/2012 04:04:00 PM
No record of that on-line. But plenty of donations to Durbin, Fritchey, and others.
Lt. Compton joined the Los Angeles Police Department after WWII, rising to the rank of Detective before leaving the police department in 1951.
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He also was the lead prosecutor in the Robert Kennedy assassination. Convicted Sirhan Sirhan, and beat the defense's try at an insanity plea. Then he was a judge. And a good one from what I read.
RIP Soldier. And thanks.
We all know Mike Shields reads the blog, yet he hasn't commented on the Director of Security job that has been mentioned. Kind of makes you think, doesn't it?
Anonymous said...
Did anyone actually hear the news tonight? They are implementing a 6 (six) year high school? OMG So, instead of GED being a red flag on a resume... now 6 years of High School!
2/28/2012 06:59:00 PM
6 years of high school now equals 2 years of high school, Class of 1968
it looks like karen lewis has had enough of his bullshit as well--- look for a strike in september unless teachers are compensated for the added time they will be required to teach--- a lot of people are labeling the teachers as whiners--- bullshit, how would you feel if you were asked to work 90 minutes longer per day and ten extra days without any compensation--- especially after the board violated their contractual obligation to give teachers a 4 percent raise--- 500,000 kids may be getting an extended summer vacation unless rahmbo sucks it up and pays up....
I hope they do strike, but one of the first things the Illinois Legislature did was pass a law that the teachers union need 3/4 of the members to vote yes. It used to be a simple majority of 50% + 1. Good luck getting 3/4ths to vote yes ( or vote at all). Very sneaky politicians. Now we have a Mayor that could care less about contracts, a police Superintendant, fire commissioner, and Schools Chief all who will do whatever the Mayor wants - regardless of those who they are hired to lead. You would hope all these Dept. heads were hired to infuse new life into their respective Departments, but at the end of the day, they are just point men to do the chopping.
3:25PM is spoton . Major conflict of interest. Prepare to get fucked by Shields hairgel know it alls .
Anonymous said...
What a guy ,why didn't he leave after telling the truth .Why didn't the HERO say he was leaving due to the cuts that are coming. No he walked away from a fight he didn't have the stomach for or was fired and didn't have the balls to say why..And by the way this GUY said that G8 was CPD issue not the CFDs.
2/28/2012 10:17:00 AM
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Agree 100%.
How are your knees doing these days? You still collecting your paycheck?
I thought so.
All talk.
2/28/2012 10:18:00 PM
thataboy, let it all out.
while it won't make those knees, that ass, throat and lips feel any better, at least you'll have the peace of mind to know that, in your mind, at least, everybody is feeling the same aches and pains as you are.
You guys wanted Daley out...Sorry but, this is what you get.
2/28/2012 10:10:00 PM
your optimism astounds me.
Chalkie
2/28/2012 10:49:00 AM
Anonymous said...
With all the changes I must have missed this one, headquarters is now called the Chicago Public Safety Building? When did this happen? Saw it in an email...
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That happened months ago when Fire moved in to the 2nd floor of the HQ building. It is no longer CPD headquarters, it is now the Public Safety Building. Didn't everyone know Fire and Police were combining HQs? They couldn't just call it CPD when Fire is there too.
Just like last year when they dissolved the police's Information Services and replaced it with "Public Safety IT" to service police, fire and oemc? They are dissolving police resources and combining functions to service all "public safety" departments.
First hand - Rahm told Bob he was cutting the manpower to 4 firefighters per truck. Bob cited all the safety and efficiency studies nationwide indicate a minimum of 5. Rahm pulled his tough guy foul mouthed tirade routine and told Bob he would cut the manpower or get ready to roll hose.
Bob told the midget to kiss his ass, no firefighters would be cut on his watch and put in his papers. Rahm reached out to a quota hack who is more than willing to be his hatchet man in exchange for the fancy hat.
God help us all.
Anonymous said...
This was sent to me by a great friend of mine that works for the Chgo Fire Dept. Please read and pass along.
To all my Chicago/Cook County friends ,please do not RE-ELECT JUDGE CLAYTON CRANE...Two Chicago Fire Department Paramedics were assaulted by a person when they went to assist him.This miserable hack said that… being assaulted is just part of a Paramedics Job.No your Honor it is not part of a Paramedics Job to be assaulted,but it is however your job to enforce the Law and you failed..PLEASE VOTE THIS HACK OUT OF OFFICE
2/28/2012 10:10:00 PM
Too bad we can't get rid of Judge Luckman in br 42. Hands down the worst judge in cook county today. He really doesn't know the law that well and it's the best court room for a criminal to be in. Unfortunately it's the worst room for a victim. Heard he was a terrible hack clout CTA lawyer before.
Anonymous said...
it looks like karen lewis has had enough of his bullshit as well--- look for a strike in september unless teachers are compensated for the added time they will be required to teach--- a lot of people are labeling the teachers as whiners--- bullshit, how would you feel if you were asked to work 90 minutes longer per day and ten extra days without any compensation--- especially after the board violated their contractual obligation to give teachers a 4 percent raise--- 500,000 kids may be getting an extended summer vacation unless rahmbo sucks it up and pays up....
2/28/2012 09:07:00 AM
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With all the unemployed teachers out there, he'll just hire new ones to replace the strikers.
1}Hoff grew up in Evergreen Park.Back in the day CFD didn't have to live in the City-quite a few CFD lived in Evergreen Park back then.
2)His wife has been pretty sick for the past two years.
3)He's only 54 and a very active guy, he really loves being a fireman-I remember him living and breathing that dream as a kid.
4)I grew up with him and he has always taken the high road even as a kid,thus he is not going to bad mouth something that he loved even though he was treated like a dog.
He has always been a class act for as long as I can remember.
He deserves to keep living his dream even if it isn't CFD.
It's no secret. Tiny said he was cutting CFD firehouse crews. Hoff said it was too dangerous and would cost lives. Tiny never answered.
Anonymous said...
O.T., but a guy in 009 just put in his retirement papers, and he said the union told him 400 people put in papers in recent weeks. He is kind of an exaggerator, so does anyone know if this is really true?? Thanks.
2/28/2012 08:56:00 PM
I spoke to an FOP officer today. He said retirements are coming in like never before.
People just want out of this police department. One officer, a trainer of G8/NATO at the academy was dumped for making unflattering remarks about our top sworn and elected leadership during a class session. Dumped by Georgas' brother who called brother Steve and the guy was outa there that day.
Hoff was forced out whether they told him to leave or he did on principal. CFD is in for a lot of changes and a rough ride. Cuts and realignments are coming after G8 NATO. I wouldn't want to work there right now because it won't be pretty
2/28/2012 10:16:00 PM
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What are you talking about, wait unitl Rahm gets ahold of us.
He is going to rape and pillage every union in this city. Then he's going after those pensions and then the one's on pension already.
I spoke to an FOP officer today. He said retirements are coming in like never before.
People just want out of this police department. One officer, a trainer of G8/NATO at the academy was dumped for making unflattering remarks about our top sworn and elected leadership during a class session. Dumped by Georgas' brother who called brother Steve and the guy was outa there that day.
2/29/2012 01:37:00 AM
Spiro the magnificant threw a temper tantrum and his big brother dump the trainer. Now Spiro can return to the safety of his office with his three secretaries and relax.
I thought Hoff left "too spend more time with family". Now he has taken another job? Hmmmmmm
Anonymous Anonymous said...
5 vs. 4 ? said...
So does Carol Stream have 5 firemen on a rig?
2/28/2012 02:54:00 PM
NO and neither does chicago. Chicago has four firemen and an officer for a total of 5 men
New York has 5 firemen and an officer for a total of 6 men.
New york dosent count their officer in the mix like chicago does
It's all about liability and law suits. Who's going to pay the the Officer or the city?
city: Officer did you receive training for the G8/NATO summits yes or no?
Officer: yes, "4 hours, wait officer I asked for yes or no, NO explination"!
City: We as home rule entity absolve our self of ALL liability due to the fact the Officer used NOT our training but his/her own skills during the peacefull protests!
Court bought and paid for by the cook county DEMOCRATIC party: Officer you have 1 week to list ALL financal assests and mortgages.
One officer, a trainer of G8/NATO at the academy was dumped for making unflattering remarks about our top sworn and elected leadership during a class session.
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He is lucky he was not fired, if that is what actually happened. You don't get to use an official training class to make unflattering remarks about your bosses. I am pretty sure that is covered in the rules he agreed to when he signed on.
The man didn't even hit the ground before he had a new job.
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It's a good bet he had the job before he resigned. Maybe not officially, but the man is not stupid.
Bob cited all the safety and efficiency studies nationwide indicate a minimum of 5.
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Given that all the national standards are set at 4, I sort of doubt there is all that much in the way of studies that say 5 is the right number.
The moral of the story is don't post made up stuff that is easily refuted by a 10 second Google search for the real information.
It must be nice to connected like that.
Anonymous said...
Little Mikey Shields isn't gonna do anything to piss off Rahm. They have already cut a deal.Mikey,why don't you tell us about the Director of Security gig you have at General Steel?The company is owned by one Rahm's friends and one his biggest political contributors($$$). Geez,Mikey,seems like you have a big conflict of interest there...
2/28/2012 03:25:00 PM
WTF? Seriously? If so, how do we impeach this little prick?
2/28/2012 04:04:00 PM
Isn't brother Danny the Director of Security for General Iron?? Someone's blowing smoke up the wrong *sshole...
You know what, when you are a city dept manager, you can either do as you are told by the mayor, or move on. Hoff moved on. That's just the way it is. And it has to be that way. Everyone has a boss, even the boss.
2/28/2012 07:03:00 AM
God, i'd hate to have to live with the shape your knees, ass, throat and lips must be in.
2/28/2012 06:43:00 PM
I'm guessing you've never been paid to be anyone's supervisor or worse yet you're one of those "I coulda, shoulda beens" that declined advancement so you could keep it real. Or maybe you are that fearless leader that won't be around to lead your troops because you don't when to shut up, when to take a loss, and when to fight. Every great boss has had to swallow their feelings from time to time and if you think even Kings Richie and Rahmie didn't have to bite down and take it back in the day...I know you've never been in charge of anything except clearing the sidewalk when it snows.
it looks like karen lewis has had enough of his bullshit as well--- look for a strike in september unless teachers are compensated for the added time they will be required to teach--- a lot of people are labeling the teachers as whiners--- bullshit, how would you feel if you were asked to work 90 minutes longer per day and ten extra days without any compensation--- especially after the board violated their contractual obligation to give teachers a 4 percent raise--- 500,000 kids may be getting an extended summer vacation unless rahmbo sucks it up and pays up....
but no one is saying the kids will actually get less instructional time with teachers even thought they are in school longer...i've talked to several teachers and on average the kids are losing 26-33 minutes a day so they can have recess and the lunches we pay for...this guy is so full of bs ...really wish someone would stand up to him....
>>>Anonymous said...
They voted 3 to 2? Im sure Mr Hoff can count on the "2" for support thru out his career there....
2/28/2012 06:39:00 AM<<<
"3 to 2", as I understand it one of the main people in Carol Stream F.P.D. teaches with HOFF at the State Fire Academy or someplace like that. No Fire Department or Police Department likes to have a Chief come in from outside.
I wouldn't be surprized to find out that Rahm's hand was in this some how. Move a potentioal mayoral challenger out of town like Richie did with Paul Valis.
Good Luck to Chief Hoff and his family.
This reminds me of the stories of the old days when fire aparatus was pulled by horses. They departments would sell their old horses to daries to pull milk wagons. Every so often when a fire engine would rush by with bells clanging pulled by a galloping team it would be followed be a milk wagon pulled by an old horse who still had the heart of firehorse.
I thought Hoff left "too spend more time with family". Now he has taken another job? Hmmmmmm
2/29/2012 05:37:00 AM
9-5 in Carol Stream versus answering all of Rahm's calls easily equals more time with family. Carol Stream has a pop. of 40,000. The FD has 5,200 employees and a budget of $509.4 million, bigger than the whole village budget at CS. He will do Carol Stream in his sleep.
Dumped by Georgas' brother who called brother Steve and the guy was outa there that day.
Stevie "PunkAss" Georgas screwed somebody over for telling the truth?? No shocker there. I can't wait to see that shameless backstabber to get his.
You wanna see some scary shit? Check out Blue Islands fire apparatus en route to a call. I haven't seen more than two people on anything in months. Seriously.
Good for Mr.Hoff----He saw the horizon and sailed on. I'm glad he is getting another opportunity to do what he does best.
In the Sun-Times story on this there is a comment:
"Is Rahm REALLY that difficult to work for?"
To which I replied:
"Yes, and HE-L-L YES! (Can't use HELL)
He will cut your pay and benefits. He will want your pension funds to waste on all his friends’ projects. He will snub you and embrace your enemies but use your funerals as a photo op. He will send you into a disaster of his making undermanned, under equipped, demoralized and blame you when it blows up and people and their livelihoods are destroyed. He will lie to you and lie about you; he will fudge crime stats and tell you that everything OK when you lay bleeding on the street or your home burglarized. I could go on, and on.
Yes, Rahm is REALLY that difficult to work for.
Stay Safe. Remember this on Election Day."
And on a comment that Firefighter pensions were generous:
"Firefighter pensions, like those of Police Officers are EARNED and PAID FOR by the Firefighters and Police Officers themselves. 9% off the top of their salaries is taken out for and put into their pension funds (something Rahm wants to have control of) matched by 18% by the city.
Now if you have earned a private pension, wouldn't you scream if the Feds cut the Social Security Benefits you EARNED by 60%? That's what happens to government employees, thanks to Dan (#$@%@) Rostenkowski.
Now politicians, who write their own rules, collect multiple pensions for every office, and can retire with their campaign warchest from all those fat cats who have bought their favors. It's like a big 401k plan; just pay the taxes on it. But they will call the firefighter and the cop greedy and say they are the problem the state is broke, not all the bad things they wasted our money on.
Good Luck Chief, you earned it."
Anonymous said...
One officer, a trainer of G8/NATO at the academy was dumped for making unflattering remarks about our top sworn and elected leadership during a class session.
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He is lucky he was not fired, if that is what actually happened. You don't get to use an official training class to make unflattering remarks about your bosses. I am pretty sure that is covered in the rules he agreed to when he signed on.
2/29/2012 08:22:00 AM
Thank you Spiro Georgas for defending the exempts for G-8. Your brother would be proud of you. Since when does department rules suddenly make a different to Spiro? Clean up your own office before you dump others trying to make a difference. Greek lighting.
Rahm is screwing the teachers closing schools. Now firing the entire staff at a school and then making it a charter school do you think the owners of the charter school contribute to Rahms war chest you bet they do The problems at the school would be better addressed by puting the parents on notice they are the one who are failing the children not the teachers Oh we can't say the truth
RICO Act..Chapters 11-20 & Chapter 90. Seems that someone is shitting themselves.
Hoff was right on and it's important that everyone realize this. Here's an excerpt from a report by the Commerce Dept's National Insyiyute of Standards & Technology on fire crew sizes:
"The four-person crews were able to complete search and rescue 30 percent faster than two-person crews and 5 percent faster than three-person crews, Moore-Merrell explained. Five-person crews were faster than four-person crews in several key tasks. The benefits of five-person crews have also been documented by other researchers for fires in medium- and high-hazard structures, such as high-rise buildings, commercial properties, factories and warehouses."
The report was published 28 Apr 2010. Once Rahm gets his way with CFD on reductions, he'll hit CPD even more. We should all be concerned.
Good for him. Deputy Chief in Carol Stream versus Commissioner of CFD is retirement. Kind of like us going from Area 2 to Carol Stream, but even more so.
His father was killed in the line of duty, so if he can't abide the crap Rahm wants to do, he should just go. And I don't blame him. If I had the time, I'd be out of here as well. So would most of you.
I bank every extra penny so I can leave as soon as possible. I hate this place. The only thing that makes it tolerable are my awesome neighbors and coworkers. The rest is for crap.
Yea for you Bob Hoff!
You wanna see some scary shit? Check out Blue Islands fire apparatus en route to a call. I haven't seen more than two people on anything in months. Seriously.
Rahm had nothing to do with him getting hired there. The chief there has been jerking off hoff for years. He wanted to be a cfd guy but never was so he's trying to make carol stream into a pretend chicago including a two piece squad company.
For those of you who think Hoff is such a great guy your sadly mistaken. He'd throw you under the bus in a heartbeat. I know,
I was under it.
There won't be any changes to CFD until after G8/NATO.
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