"No Longer Approved for Purchase" (UPDATED)
They slipped this one in under the radar:
- The uniform items described in the specifications listed below are no longer approved for purchase as of the date listed beside them. Members who currently own/possess any item listed in this directive may continue to wear that item until it is no longer serviceable. Items listed in this directive that are no longer serviceable will be replaced by an item that meets the most current uniform specification, if applicable.
And on the list:
- Item H. U16.0122D - Vest Carrier Embroidered Patches (Rescinded 10 February 2012 by U06-04-03
Item I. U16.0122E - Outer Garment Embroidered Patches (Rescinded 10 February 2012 by U06-04-03
Go to the Department Directives and look up Uniform and Property U06-06 for details. It's like they want to get rid of all of J-Fled's fingerprints on the Department.
UPDATE: Numerous persons are saying this is merely a "housekeeping" issue and they are clarifying the patch design and construction. The proof is the reference to another order that was issued the same day.
UPDATE: Numerous persons are saying this is merely a "housekeeping" issue and they are clarifying the patch design and construction. The proof is the reference to another order that was issued the same day.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
151 Comments:
22 months left mine will last,sewing on a couple of new buttons now thanks for the heads up!
So it looks like you will have to wear your star on all outer garments so a protestor can snatch it off, OK?
Is this department a 3 or 4 ring circus?
Don't want to get all conspiracy theory here, but does this have anything to do with the new stars that have those 'so called' chips in them that track your movement? You know so officers will actually have to wear their stars now or just another way to screw us (CW- the new inspector former rat)has to be per her pants excited about this.
two steps forward, three steps back..keep bringing in the tbv's and 1811's
Also on the list......baseball caps!!
I actually agree with this. I think those sewn on stars and name tags look phony. In fact, i have one and was asked if i was a real policeman b/c those patches looked fake and lets face it, anyone could just sew those on.
OT: SCC, this was on your blog a while back. McCarthy is gonna cost the city millions with his stupid comments.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-mccarthy-testimony-ordered-20120217,0,4937211.story
I think my items are "serviceable" for about 3 1/2 years. I wish it was sooner, like tomorrow.
I gotsta get me ma rifles befo's they's gets wize!!!!!!!
An idea that made perfect sense in the unpredictable and violent world of the police officer. Let's have badges that can be torn off during the g8, that must have come from the brain trust or perhaps McLush thought that one up in Dugans at 3 in the am in the morning and scrawled it on a beer stained coaster.
I've come around to the belief that they're actually trying to destroy morale. "The day ain't done till I've broken some officer's spirit"
Or was it Chicago authorized ?
Or if you're a conspiracy theorist, it's because they want you to wear your star at work cause the new ones will have gps.
Will someone PLEASE make it a SPAR-able offense to wear anything with script that has "Ranger" on it?
Englewood "Ranger". Fillmore "Ranger". Grow the fuck up.
And while you're at it, please enact penalties for excessive hairgel and hanging a hatband from your rearview mirror.
OT:
Why all the hub bub about patrol???
An Area 1 dic was stripped a coupla days ago because he was double-dipping. That dic is at call-back and gonna lose his job.
Why is patrol in the fore-front, and INVESTIGATIONS on the back-burner??!!!!
Speaking of which, has McDrunk considered the DICS when planning for the CLUSTERFUCK in May??!!!!
I'm just sayin'...
Speaking of which,
Dammit! I had just saved up enough Rahm Rubles to buy all that gear for MFF and I was gonna get that giant patch that says POLICE TACT & GANGS, so that I'd look like a total bad ass.
Safety & Practicality has never been the watchword on this Department.This new regime will make sure of it.
so stupid this department. can they occupy themselves with getting this department back into functioning order with morale etc..
OT- in 023, third watch, is the WC the same guy that was at IOD who was just a defendant of a recently filed lawsuit regarding tampering with a witnes?
Thats not J-Feds creation. Every other Department out there has sew on patches and vest covers.
They way to remove J-Feds stink is:
-Fire his ass.
-Remove him from IL.
-Give Officers a REAL experienced leader voted in by the rank and file. No ballerina, or stuttering prick, Mayor should be in charge of deciding who should lead a Police Department. They dont understand what we need to operate. Fear tactics dont work.
-Clean house by removing the clouted/appointed ones with criminal backgrounds.
-Get rid of any boss that didnt stand up to him.
-Remove his pics from Department walls.
-Anyone who took a D.C. ceremony pic with him, photo shop a former real boss in his place or Chuck Norris (He's just cool).
-Give Cozzi a $100,000,000 check and Department apology for being Fed Fucked.
-Make it a unbreakable rule to not hire a Fed to do our job and vise versa. No one should ever be placed in charge of anything they have zero experience doing.
Yea, but cops who have them now will get new ones to replace the worn out ones. I don't like them but some cops do.
OT - Republicans hunting down Rahm like a dog.
http://m.nbcchicago.com/nbcchicago/db_276091/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=nfJiW3c6
...and rightly so. The SOLYNDRA scandal heats up.
They have supeonas for his staffers concerning the emails that Rahm sent to PUSH the criminaly irresponsible 500 million dolar loan to the failed company. This was shameless Chicago style pay to play. We have not heard the last of this one. Although curiously...the slum times have no mention of this huge scandal or the one where McOnemorefortheroad will have to testify on the federal lawsuit filed as a result of a police shooting.
Rahm owns Frank Main .Fran and the Suntimes media ..Thats Why.
Or force you to wear that new star that doesn't have a CHIP in it
No they want us to wear the stars with the chips in them
But it was featured on the hit TV series The Chicago Code. How can they take this from us?
Forcing us to wear the new stars with tracking devices.......smart.
Anybody else see the Ch. 2 report on 5 o'clock news yesterday about a lawsuit filed against officers on videotape allegedly roughing up a black guy with a video camera taping police activity around State/Pearson I think? It showed a sgt. allegedly making nice to a white guy w/a camera, then shows the sgt. allegedly going after the black guy with the camera?
It was the lead story. I only caught it because I was watching Judge Judy before it--how come only the tv judges 'get it'?
She said "What a country" after some guy said he'd been getting $1000/month disability for nerve damage and his kid got $800/month for some reason...claimed he couldn't sit for long periods--JJ asked him how he sat on the plane to get there. She said nerve damage is ridiculous--he could still do something with his brain!
I wish we had judges in Cook County like the tv judges!
Is this department a 3 or 4 ring circus?
2/17/2012 12:12:00 AM
More like 6.
I'm a det. and we have not heard a sound about G8/Nato. Nada. Zip. Zero. Nothing on procedures, where we'll be. Nothing about charging.
I am extremely resistant to signing my name to any arrest report, since I will likely not be the person making the arrest.
I wish the union would come up with a standard disclaimer we could use in any narrative. Or suggest a standard beat or complainant. I say we should put McBeer on all arrest reports.
I can make up my own, but there should be a standard to protect det's from lawsuits based solely on their name being on an arrest report, and all det's should be notified.
Can you imagine getting 50 lawsuits thrown at you? I've never been involved in a mass arrest procedure before and have no idea how it's handled in real life...not just some outdated G.O.
Mine will laws until retirement. The uniform stores that spend thousands on embroidery machines must be happy.
I will be happy as a lark to be leaving this job soon.
In fact, i have one and was asked if i was a real policeman b/c those patches looked fake and lets face it, anyone could just sew those on.
Well, I guess working inside does have a down side. You should get out more then your uniform will look a little more worn and torn instead of looking like you just started your probation.
Will someone PLEASE make it a SPAR-able offense to wear anything with script that has "Ranger" on it?
Englewood "Ranger". Fillmore "Ranger". Grow the fuck up.
And while you're at it, please enact penalties for excessive hairgel and hanging a hatband from your rearview mirror.
Lighten up Francis.
I hope I don't forget to take that new star off my uniform shirt and throw it in the washer and dryer. By accident you know,
OT - 2 Detectives arrested for double dipping at work. Dont be stupid or greedy. Just a heads up.
You guys all keep saying that the new stars have gps chips in them.
One question:
How do you change the battery?
STOOOPPPPP!
There are no gps chips int he new stars. You people are making yourselves the laughing stock of the world with those comments.
Think about it.
Is this department a 3 or 4 ring circus
I'd say at least an 8 ring circus
Relax boys and girls. You can still buy and wear the ball caps and patch-vest covers. GMac just changed a few things. Mosty with the upper ranks.
Look up the order that rescinded U16.0122D and U16.0122E. That being U06-04-03. You can still purchase embroidered patches.
The directives for patches are now consolidated under "Uniform and Property 06-04-03" instead of being separate uniform specifications.
All you have to do to the new stars is just put them in the microwave for 30seconds and poof the chip no longer works and there is no visible damage to the badge.
get a replica star and keep your new one in your locker
Hey guys - a little bit of information about RFID chips. they are *not* GPS, so you can't be tracked anywhere you go. What the bosses can do is track when you're doing in and out the door of the station or anywhere else they put up a reader.
But, what you really want to do is go read all the stuff about breaking the RFID in passports. The same stuff will work just fine on the star
FYI... All those chips are going to be good for is opening doors. Its just a fancy HID chip behind the star. Don't see why we can't just keep the star in our wallet and pull the wallet out when we need to gain access to a secure area.
Ok I will say it again, the new stars don't have chips in them. There are a few people that have already taken possession of them and they are just thicker than the old star. Why do people come here and spread idiotic rumors?
I heard we're going back to paper reports too, and the new police cruisers will have no floor boards so you and your partner can power them with your feet.
A clever knockoff will be fabricated and the one with the chip will be compromised somehow. Probably by the simple wear and tear of taking it on and off. Vanecko Star Technologies LLC. will get the contract for the new stars and the service. But of course if you are a HAIRGELL,you never take your star off and just in case you are at the beach have a star tattooed on your chest and rarely if ever take your driving gloves off either. The only part of this job a hairgel don't like is checkoff time or rollcall when he can't wear an MP3 in his ear.
Or if you're a conspiracy theorist, it's because they want you to wear your star at work cause the new ones will have gps.
2/17/2012 01:11:00 AM
I don't understand why a lot of you people have a problem with the city wanting to know where you are when you are at work? They have a right to know. We are employees and the city is our employer. That being said I don't think the new stars have gps in them. They would not be allowed to track our movements off duty. The supreme court just said that a court order is needed to put a tracker on a vehicle, I would think the same applies here.
They're changing it back so the protesters can more easily read your star number. WTF else would they be doing it?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I actually agree with this. I think those sewn on stars and name tags look phony. In fact, i have one and was asked if i was a real policeman b/c those patches looked fake and lets face it, anyone could just sew those on.
2/17/2012 12:39:00 AM
Good now you get rid of yours,and asshat they are no "fake" badges correct??
Mr Supe--Why do you hate us so much?
Saying that, I notice you have several outer garments with embroidery.
I hope you get run out of town on a rail on June 15th when this cry burns because you are a shitty leader.
Are you guys for real? The city can't even get working computers in the cars, you think they have the time and resources to put a chip in 13000 stars? You're high!
Dammit! I had just saved up enough Rahm Rubles to buy all that gear for MFF and I was gonna get that giant patch that says POLICE TACT & GANGS, so that I'd look like a total bad ass.
2/17/2012 01:59:00 AM
I laughed my way through breakfast over this comment, thank you.
I fail to see any of these mentioned changes in the order.
Ain't 'nunnya got a dremel? I'll even make a how to 'an put it on youtube. Problem solved. Us hairgels gots all 'kinda good ideas, dayyum.
lol.. gps stars...umm Officer how come your star never leaves the station 24/7 ..duh
If you look closer, the department changed specs and replaced with new specs that are referenced in the new directives. The prohibition to buy refer to the old specifications. We can still wear patch
es and baseball caps.
Don't get paranoid yet.
Hey 12:39 maybe you were asked if you were a real policeman because you don't act like one and not because of the patches...I'm just saying think about!
WHY DOES THIS DEPARTMENT LOVE FUCKING WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES/OFFICERS AGAIN AND AGAIN?
The outer vest covers are a God send. It's convenient to have my battery, radio, etc... on their. I have a medium sized waist and thus can't fit everything on my duty belt. Also, the less weight on my duty belt the better it is for my back.
I don't know why this department keeps fucking with us over minor things. The more difficult you make it on us, the less work officers will do.
Stars with chips...Man are you all warped..The city can't pay for paper, yet they will pay for this..The fact that even if they could ad would do this, they wouldn't frigging work. Stop getting your panties in a bunch because of theories..Then go put on your tinfoil hat...
About the order.. Rescinded by....BY and then another order number. Looks like they just replaced one order with another..They didn't GET RID OF anything as far as I can tell...
The new stars do not have a chip in them. Don't believe it? Waive your star in front of a reader and nothing happens. Still don't believe? Then put on your foil hat.
I refuse to wear the baseball hat- it looks stupid- We are the Police department not a baseball team.
I, so agree with the hat bands over the rear-view mirrors. It looks stupid, and the ones I see with them are either civilian employees who are terrible drivers. I dont want to forget to mention the look-alike CPD Stars that say police family, officers wife, mother, father. Totally irressponsible to have those made up.
Read the order thy re just hanging the patches. The riot gear order was rescinded but the new order that replaces it has just about the same gear as the old one.
Anyone know if we can put those new stars in the microwave for several seconds????????
I hope everyone is smart enough to leave their fancy new neo-megatron ten billion gigabyte super computer stars in their lockers while off duty. My money says that within the first 6 months some ball bag gets into some off duty nonsense and 4 finger McPuppet and co. use their super computer whizmo gizmo to put officer ball bag on scene at the time of the ___[fill in the blank]___
Hacker group Anonymous is calling for NATO/G8 protesters to barricade Chicago for the whole month of May. Add that to the 50,000 protesters that AdBusters is rallying, and May is going to be... interesting.
Anonymous also hacked into law enforcement websites last week in Salt Lake City, Syracuse, New York, and Boston, plus a justice ministry website in Greece. ABC7 writes:
Police websites in the Chicago area were not affected, but there is reason to suspect the group Anonymous is winding up to sucker-punch Chicago during the G8/NATO summits in May.
On the group's YouTube channel and website is a message for Chicago: An escalation of the protests.
Those embroidered stars, names, and the big POLICE on the back make you look like a big Doofus!!! This is a great change and I applaud it because they were going to have to force me to get the embroidery done. Baseball hats and cargo pants are great.
So... we can still wear the black carrier, but the star can't be stictched in. They are not getting rid of the exterior carrier all togehter?
What is " servicable" and what is not will not be defined by the owner of the garment. The brass, namely, your commander will determine if your garment is servicable. When they tell you it is not, you will no longer be able to wear that garment or to replace it with like product. Do you really think that it would remain up to you to determine if you can continue to wear any uniform item? Lok for the end to wearing your safety vest outside your shirt or sweater and look for the end of baseball caps for starters.
Just like they will for McBeer when he leaves.
Hairgel!, what about the hair gel? I'm going back to work for Walmart.
Relax boys & girls. If you look further down the list of directives, you'll see that another one was issued to rescind the older ones.
They are still allowing the embroidered materials on outer garments, just changed the color of rank insignias for Commanders & above to silver, instead of gold.
Are they nuts? That's the only thing J-Fed did that was good!
Patches are still authorized. The order was written wrong. If you click on the link where it states it was recinded, there is an revised order dated this month. There should be something released soon to clear up the confusion...
Sorry I had mine put on a year ago and they will last me the 3 and a day so screw the order
I saw one of the new stars. There is no tracking device. Besides the city is to cheap to pay for that type of technology.
Anonymous West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
Will someone PLEASE make it a SPAR-able offense to wear anything with script that has "Ranger" on it?
Englewood "Ranger". Fillmore "Ranger". Grow the fuck up.
And while you're at it, please enact penalties for excessive hairgel and hanging a hatband from your rearview mirror.
2/17/2012 01:15:00 AM
LOL..and can we add to the list the fop windshield stickers stacked in a couple rows up the side of the windshield of your personal car? You are either too lazy to remove last years, or soft enough to think that a couple row's of old stickers shows how 'old timer' you are lol.
I always preferred cops to look like cops. The guys in uniforms with patches instead of badges don't look like cops to me. Maybe that is why the change.
Or maybe there is some money to be made by someone connected. Who knows in Chicago.
I can see why one might not want to wear a badge where it can be grabbed in a riot though. But, there are all kinds of other things attached to cops that a rioter might potentially grab too.
A lot of damage could be done by grabbing onto a helmet, for example.
Not a cop.
How could a vest cover or outer garment become unserviceable? Just wear it forever.
Jesus you guys are paranoid! RFid chips are NOT the same as gps. All they do is have info on them that can be scanned at certain points but the scanners need to be in place to do so. Those are expensive and need to be installed and synced. Tons of time and money need to go into it so relax, they will not track your every move. Gps is a whole different technology and it requires a power source so either they are gonna have us walking around with huge battery packs to power them or maybe we can have a long extension cord. I love the conspiracy theories as much as anyone else but give it a rest.
No, No, No.....I read the order and it appears that the authorized item descriptions have changed and the new orders allow purchase of these items. It appears people do not understand what "uniform item XXXXX no longer authorized,and is replaced or superceded by xxxxx". Just house keeping, nothing to see here.
From the subject of this post: Item H. U16.0122D - Vest Carrier Embroidered Patches (Rescinded 10 February 2012 by U06-04-03).
U06-40-03 still allows the embroidered patches, just the number changed.
OT: Rahm and the Job creation b.s.
Rahm just kicked on the smoke and mirrors machine again this AM.. He's out there boasting about PNC bank bringing 200 jobs to Chicago by opening three new branches.
More election campaign b.s.
We have to obfuscate the fact that Sears is cutting 100 positions so IMO this PNC krap hit the media this AM.
Here's the thing.
The Sears Jobs we lost today, right now.
The 200 PNC Jobs? Well when you read past the headlines that's 200 jobs BY THE END OF 2013!!
Who's gonna be checking to see if they lied two years from now? Do you think that anyone will remember?
Oh, and another thing. Rahm is talking about these jobs being profession positions. HA, I guess that's what a bank teller is called by the politicians.
Nevertheless think about it. Three new bank branches create 200 jobs? 67 people per branch? Gonna be pretty crowded in those branches....unless of course we're talking part-time jobs so the bank doesn't have to offer healthcare and other bene's.
Don't let 'em fool ya. The media is pumping out the feel good election hype on the economy like there is no tomorrow.
-Give Officers a REAL experienced leader voted in by the rank and file. No ballerina, or stuttering prick, Mayor should be in charge of deciding who should lead a Police Department. They dont understand what we need to operate. Fear tactics dont work.
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Vote for your boss. Ha ha.
Can you repeal his election if he tries to fire you for breaking the law?
This is a perfect example of a complete city worker mentality with absolutely no connection to the real world. This man's mind has turned to mush by being a city worker.
Here's a tip. If Cozzi just quit when he was suspended for two years and found something else to do with his life, he would have never been charged. But, if the standard is that you can't be fired unless you're convicted, be damn sure they will do everything they can to convict you when they want to fire you.
Instead, you want us to give him money? Like I said, total mush.
And while you're at it, please enact penalties for excessive hairgel and hanging a hatband from your rearview mirror.
A parking violation you mean?
As I recall, there IS a muni code on the books that would cover that, just petition Revenue/Finance to enforce it.
All this "micro-chip" tracking device talk is so absurd! If you believe this then I have a tip for you: put aluminum foil inside your hat, then the government can't listen to your thoughts.
This is the city/department that gives the contracts to companies that are inept. Pdts rarely work, aira and clear are a joke.
Here's a small example that bothers me. In aira they demand the birth location and has very limited options. Now if this person was born in Jamaica for instance, not listed in drop down menu, I'll go with Illinois. Now I just lied on an official document. Great!!!
Anyone know if we can put those new stars in the microwave for several seconds????????
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
go ahead and try it Einstein! Let me know how that microwave handles the metallic item inside of it!
Jerk!
You guys are a bunch of morons. READ. One order replaces the other. No gear or garments are prohibited. And you wonder why the white shirts think blue shirts are stupid.
Get rid of the "security guard" baseball cap too.
Relax boys & girls. If you look further down the list of directives, you'll see that another one was issued to rescind the older ones.
They are still allowing the embroidered materials on outer garments, just changed the color of rank insignias for Commanders & above to silver, instead of gold.
2/17/2012 11:28:00 AM
doesn't the dept have anything better to do or worry about then this nonsense???? uniforms should be the least of their worries!
Hey you idiots, what happens when you put metal in a microwave? DO NOT PUT THE NEW STARS IN YOUR MICROWAVE! Figure out another way if you are that damn paranoid. Oh and the aliens are all coming to take us all back to the mother ship MAY 02, 2012 wait and see! You goofs.
Can we just go to ONE uniform and be done with it? ONE approved: pants, long shirt, short shirt, summer hat, winter hat, coat, one color outer carrier. DONE. Shit, you need a flow chart to figure out what can be worn by whom and when!
All you have to do to the new stars is just put them in the microwave for 30seconds and poof the chip no longer works and there is no visible damage to the badge.
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Go ahead, genius, put a big hunk of metal in a microwave and see what happens.
Anyone who thinks that the departmetn can put RFID chips in the stars, or for anyplace else for that matter just do not know anything about RFID technology. They are not that small, really do not need any batter power, but must be read by recievers that do have to be powered, do not that that much of a range and are expensive to install. The most common use today are in medical equipment so they can find a item in the hospital. The item has to pass the receiver on a certain floor.Give this conspiracy theory a rest. You must see black helicopters in the sky watching you.
Can we all RELAX. This policy was UPDATED NOT REMOVED.
The new policy can be found here.
http://directives.chicagopolice.org/directives/data/a7a57bf0-1356803b-02113-5685-e92b9a8577e6cf96.html
I actually agree with this. I think those sewn on stars and name tags look phony. In fact, i have one and was asked if i was a real policeman b/c those patches looked fake and lets face it, anyone could just sew those on.
2/17/2012 12:39:00 A
What looks phony is my star falling apart
Anyone know if we can put those new stars in the microwave for several seconds????????
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
go ahead and try it Einstein! Let me know how that microwave handles the metallic item inside of it!
Jerk!
2/17/2012 03:50:00 PM
Actually, you CAN put metal in a microwave as long as it is not in direct contact with the sides or bottom, as in on a glass plate.
doesn't the dept have anything better to do or worry about then this nonsense???? uniforms should be the least of their worries!
NOPE... This is some over educated moron of an idiot trying to prove his/her significance.
Anonymous said...
Anyone know if we can put those new stars in the microwave for several seconds????????
2/17/2012 10:13:00 AM
Is it possible that someone could be so brain dead to think metal and microwaves mix. You sir, define the word stupid and brain dead. Do us a favor. Make a video for YouTube and try the experiment. I need a good laugh. Asshat
New star design perhaps?
But on another factoid:
RFID's at best are "readable" for tracking purposes (i.e. cattle/livestock) at not more than 30 feet.
Your passport has one. Maybe one of your credit cards.
They can be shielded with aluminum or alloy sheath to prevent unauthorized scanning of personal info with a reading device. This is not emerging technology they've been around for years. Basically used for logistics.
B-B-B-But.....
I'm sure Rahmulus has other motives.
Centuries ago, they would use chains to group the minions before feeding the lions.
-it's for the kids.
I'm kinda agreeing with this gps thing sounding a little stupid,but at the department stores there is a device that does not rely on a battery that sets off an alarm as you leave the store ,so it may not be impossible to have a chip that works like your iPhone or iPad knowing your whereabouts ,there is technology out there that can accomplish this but can one sue if proven regarding privacy and though it is the citys property,believe you me that someone will discover by some means whether its true or not,so asking the question is does the city want to know your whereabouts ,I doubt it,can they afford to know your whereabouts,it will definitely surprise me if this is the case!
Okay. I got a simple solution for this "tracking chip or whatever" in our new stars......BUT someones gotta take one for the team. Here's what we gotta do. Someone report there star lost. Now the star won't really be lost we'll keep it and tearr it open with some metal working tools and see if there's a tracking device int it. Peoblem sovled!!!!! Someones gotta take one for the team though......I nominate SCC. He seems like a stand up guy:)
Yes the third watch Lt in 23 is the same guy in the lawsuit. He was a sgt in IAD and was the accused. I don't work for the man, but I wouldn't trust him.
Its sad when people don't even know how to read an order which is basically the blueprint for what you need to do on this job. Reading and comprehension are a skill that many do not possess on this job. Or they just believe whatever someone tells them.
Anonymous said...
All you have to do to the new stars is just put them in the microwave for 30seconds and poof the chip no longer works and there is no visible damage to the badge.
2/17/2012 07:38:00 AM
Oh yeah? You just try to put a metal police star in a microwave for 30 seconds and report back.
I'm waiting.
Anonymous said...
All this "micro-chip" tracking device talk is so absurd! If you believe this then I have a tip for you: put aluminum foil inside your hat, then the government can't listen to your thoughts.
This is the city/department that gives the contracts to companies that are inept. Pdts rarely work, aira and clear are a joke.
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I have been wearing aluminum foil inside my hat and underwear for years. Works fine.
For all the people who say you can't put metals in a microwave. What is the inside of a microwave made of???
when do we receive the "counter terrorism" patch for the back of our jackets? Adam 704
Forcing us to wear the new stars with tracking devices.......smart.
2/17/2012 04:36:00 AM
if anybody thinks the stars have a chip in them then you ARE a moron.
Put the "tracking star" in your oven at about 180 deg. for 15 mins.
I have been wearing aluminum foil inside my hat and underwear for years. Works fine.
2/17/2012 07:59:00 PM
your jimmyhat?
In reference to 018 & 023's new scandals , this shit makes me think that IAD is the dirtiest unit on the job.oil
I could give a rat fart what mcjersey wants or orders me to wear. He wears the wrong uniform anyway. He either needs to be in a nypd uniform or a uniform made from Rahm's scrotum.
You guys all keep saying that the new stars have gps chips in them.
One question:
How do you change the battery?
STOOOPPPPP!
There are no gps chips int he new stars. You people are making yourselves the laughing stock of the world with those comments.
Think about it
You need to do some research. Ie pacemaker batteries last 6-10 years
A recent incident brought to light a problem with some of the body armor used by the Phoenix PD. An officer was shot and the round passed through the armor. Subsequent test found a real problem with this vest.
FYI
Manufacturer: Custom Armor Technologies
Threat Level: IIIA
Model Number: QVA-3A-1
Serial Number: 03005357
Lot Numbers: 400010122119 and 1000076399
Manufacture Date: May 12, 2008
Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/Phoenix-police-have-concerns-about-safety-vests#ixzz1mhuWs5Fk
Is it possible that someone could be so brain dead to think metal and microwaves mix. You sir, define the word stupid and brain dead. Do us a favor. Make a video for YouTube and try the experiment. I need a good laugh. Asshat
2/17/2012 05:38:00 PM
Wow, some people need to lighten the fuck up and take a joke
IT WAS A JOKE!!!
We're going back to revolvers too!
Please leave that 023 Lt. RP alone, too much pressure and he may blow his LAP band.
Please, PLEASE stop saying/believing these new stars have GPS in them. They DO NOT. RFID, maybe. No fucking GPS. Also, some PPO's already have them. The only difference is the middle circular area is raised. THERE IS NO GOD DAMN GPS. If your so ignorantly worried about it, SCC already gave you a solution. Pop 'em in the microwave for a bit and voila.
To the above ignoramus:
WE aren't worried about it. WE haven't said we're worried about it. WE aren't the ones commenting on it.
Problem solved with the star!!
Just keep it in your wallet and wrap in in tin foil!!
If you ran out of tin foil just remove a piece from your hat!
Asshat.
Anyone who thinks that the departmetn can put RFID chips in the stars, or for anyplace else for that matter just do not know anything about RFID technology.
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Go to the Blackinton (Badge) website slick . .
http://www.blackinton.com
Go to: "Smart Shield Badge System"
Those embroidered stars, names, and the big POLICE on the back make you look like a big Doofus!!! This is a great change and I applaud it because they were going to have to force me to get the embroidery done.
Guess you will be called Officer Doofus from now on because the patches are going nowhere.
In fact, i have one and was asked if i was a real policeman b/c those patches looked fake and lets face it, anyone could just sew those on.
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Maybe they asked if you were a real policeman because you were wasting your time standing around answering stupid questions.
Anonymous said...
We're going back to revolvers too!
2/17/2012 11:37:00 PM
OK with me, we also need to bring back .45 cal. Thompson Sub-Machine guns, fedoras, bull dicks and more foot posts. And we need to teach OEMC call takers how to say "that's not a police issue, we won't be dispatching a police car. How you get your little junior to school is not the responsibility of the Chicago Police Department."
Anonymous said...
I have been wearing aluminum foil inside my hat and underwear for years. Works fine.
2/17/2012 07:59:00 PM
your jimmyhat?
2/17/2012 10:09:00 PM
Yup. Solid aluminum.
There is NOT GPS but there is an RFID tag. The FEDs just nailed Watts. There was a tracking device in the brown paper bag. The tracking device was basically a RFID tag. How the technology works:
When you purchase an item at Walgreens and you exit the store sometimes there is a device on or in your product called an RFID tag. It looks like a sticker. They usually place it adjacent the UPC bar so when an employee scans the UPC code it simutaneoulsy deactivates the RFID tag. We have all had it happen to us where the clerk rings up a customer and he/she pays, exits the store and the alarm goes off. That is an RFID alert. No touching the bag or item but it gets picked up by the sensors at the door and sets off the alarm.
So how does the RFID work for our stars? When you take out your new star it will be RFID-equipped and programmed to your personal information. It will be secure and can only be read with a password by the reader. The same technology is what lets us enter our police stations at the door of the newer stations along with an access code. That is an RFID card.
Some departments have their stars set up same with RFID and their stars will let them in the building with their PIN as our cards do with our PIN or employee ID#. Some also have it set to where when the officers gets close to the "punch clock" it logs them in so all they do is stand there and enter their PIN which basically logs them in/out for tour of duty.
Ours will work on similar technology except it will be tied into Verizon's network. That is who has the PDT contract with City of Chicago. So how the technology will work is the cell towers will send out a "ping" which will use triangulation to determine the location of the RFID device at any given time. The devices we will have will be "passive" devices and won't be battery powered. It's new technology so I don't expect most of us to understand how it works as of yet. So is it GPS? Not by definition as that stands for Global Positioning System which will work anywhere on the planet with government satellites. This is a similar concept just using cell towers by Verizon. So if you are in Mexico with your star the system won't see you so to speak. Will it work if you are in Texas for example? I am guessing so if the network searches there. An RFID blocking wallet will do the trick though. And yes, that is why the department is X-ing the embroidered patches of the police stars and quite frankly I am just surprised they don't make us get rid of them altoghether.
So yes boys and girls they can track the police stars off duty anytime. From the departments stand point it's department issued equipment giving them the legal right to track it at all times. So don't panic. When at work they got ya on the radar: CAR is GPS, the radio is GPS and the star will surely be required to be on your prescence while at work I am sure if not already in the G.O.s now. Just remember if you carry your gun they will probably ask if you had your star w/you. I am not sure if it's required or not but either way just get an RFID blocking wallet or insert and you will be fine. Trust me on this.
Incidentally our radios are GPS-equipped now. The curly-corded Motorolas have the GPS in the mics. You can Google the radio model and see for yourself on the website.
Also while I am at it the "Passenger Side" air bag detector is synched in with the GPS in the car. How does it work? When you have your partner in the passenger side seat the air bag WILL deploy in event of an accident. When the seat is vacant the air bag WON'T deploy. That information is logged and stored on the car's black box BTW So it shows you either had a person in that seat or didn't. When 10-99 it should show it. When 10-4 same. Parnter missing with "two on the end" and not logged it will now show here shortly. Same if you give an unauthorized ride in the front seat.
Oh, and the new stars with RFID may or may not have batteries. They have "passive" and "active" RFID devices. Ours will probably be "passive" or non-battery powered. Furthermore, even if they have batteries it may be like a watch battery and have a long service life. The stars don't cost much to make in reality so they could be disposable to where the departments has you turn it in every 5 years or something like for reservicing. Again the stars aren't GPS. It's RFID tracking. Believe whatever you guys want. I see half believe they track you and half don't. The stars are meant to be tracked via Verizon network.
http://mysite.verizon.net/lpang10473/web/rfid.htm
This is my third post on this. I found the information on Verizon's website. So all you conspiracy theorist about the department tracking you are correct. All you guys who think we are all crazy and worried about the "black helicopters" read this link. This is FROM VERIZON. I hate to knock coppers in general but this is NOT a new technology as one stated but it's a twist a an "old" (in electronic terms) but it's a new application. I don't expect all to "get it". Who would have ever thought you could talk on a cell phone 30 years ago? Now little kids have them. HDTVs? Etc..
So again: It's not GPS by definition; it's RFID working triangulation on Verizon's network determining your location. So you can say it's like GPS but it's not. Bottom line is your star's location can be tracked anywhere at all times.
23rd third watch Lt isnt all that bad, worked with him as a PO. But, we all know how people change with authority. His only downside is food and red heads.Good luck Rick.
Ok I will say it again, the new stars don't have chips in them. There are a few people that have already taken possession of them and they are just thicker than the old star. Why do people come here and spread idiotic rumors?
2/17/2012 08:00:00 AM
Because it is hysterical and you lemmings will believe anything.
By the way, Skynet just went on line.
OMG, they just keep changing and changing and then changing our uniforms. Goofballs in charge
Hello, handsome, is that a ten-gallon hat or are you just enjoying the show?
if anybody thinks the stars have a chip in them then you ARE a moron.
2/17/2012 09:08:00 PM
They DO have a chip in them, you moron. Open your eyes and ears. It's not a GPS, but it can give access to points that have the reader. It's like the chip you put in your dog's ass so when he runs away from your dumb ass, the vet knows who to call.
To all of you that don't believe the RFID badges are around, look at this link.
http://www.blackinton.com/home/level2.aspx?id=22
Fond of redheads ? That explains a lot !
SCC
It seems you REALLY shook up the department with this post.
The post came out Friday morning and by 1700hrs on Friday the department came out with a NEW order to re-clarify what was no longer approved and what was allowed.
One has to wonder why the department got so shook up over this?
Are "insiders" making money from all these silly uniform articles that keep getting approved?
Why do we need RFID stars. The Blackington website makes it seem like police impersonators are everywhere and the civilian world is populated with RFID readers.
How much did the PD spend on GPS units for the cars?
1980.00 does not include modem, shop supplies, or labor
How much on in-car camera?
4,000.00 Not including labor, mics, training.
Gun shot detectors?
4-million DOLLARS
The gun shot detectors are no longer budgeted for repairs, they must all be broke like the in-car cameras.
Exempts, stop buying this shit. It does not last or work.
Also, the RFID badges would be nice for station access, but, every station has a differnt access control computer and hardware. Therefore, I do not belive the new badges are for access control. The use of these new badges with the added cost makes not sense.
The stars with the "tracking" chips cannot really track you the way it is being portrayed. The chips are RFID chips. They work the same way an ID card does that is used to swipe an electronic door to unlock it. The ID card too contains an RFID chip. They are not some micro GPS transmitter.
They can be used to swipe in and out at a reader, if readers are installed. Usually, they have to be in close proximity to the reader to work.
Those of you who are worried you'll be tracked on and off-duty shouldn't be. The chips are most likely going to be used to authenticate a star and for inventory purposes.
I think the best way to check if New stars have chip in them is to stick it up your ass and ask your mayor if he can still see you on his monitor. And if he doesn't ask him to pull it out with gigantic electromagnet....there is no GPS there, it requires power source, antena and chip at bare minimum. At best and I doubt it it has a chip with your name, employee number,star number to authenticate it . Kind of like ones we use for our pets.
Will someone PLEASE make it a SPAR-able offense to wear anything with script that has "Ranger" on it?
Englewood "Ranger". Fillmore "Ranger". Grow the fuck up.
And while you're at it, please enact penalties for excessive hairgel and hanging a hatband from your rearview mirror.
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agreed. i know some army rangers that will wipe the floor with your stupid ass.
Ok to dispel if the new stars have RFID all you have to do is pass the new stars in front of the district readers and see if it "beeps". It probably won't allow you access but it will identity if its RFID. Try it at Traffic Court by room 402. They have an RFID reader there which our cards will elicit a beep but won't allow access.
"I heard we're going back to paper reports too, and the new police cruisers will have no floor boards so you and your partner can power them with your feet."
Yabba Dabba Doo!
"They would not be allowed to track our movements off duty. The supreme court just said that a court order is needed to put a tracker on a vehicle, I would think the same applies here."
The Supreme Court means nothing here. This is Chicago.
Need proof? Look at the way Rahm continues to try to take guns away from law-abiding citizens, despite the city spending literally millions of dollars and losing it.
"Hacker group Anonymous is calling for NATO/G8 protesters to barricade Chicago for the whole month of May."
Maybe they'll barricade red light & speed camera locations!
"Can we just go to ONE uniform and be done with it?"
No. Never have. Never will. Get over it.
"Can we just go to ONE uniform and be done with it? ONE approved: pants, long shirt, short shirt, summer hat, winter hat, coat, one color outer carrier. DONE. Shit, you need a flow chart to figure out what can be worn by whom and when!"
Its sad when people don't even know how to read an order which is basically the blueprint for what you need to do on this job. Reading and comprehension are a skill that many do not possess on this job. Or they just believe whatever someone tells them.
"agreed. i know some army rangers that will wipe the floor with your stupid ass."
And I know some forest rangers that have the word "ranger" in their title.
Will the Army Rangers kick their asses, too?
Smokey Bear is a forest ranger too. Maybe he can kick some Army Ranger ass? See how silly this is?
You can be whatever you want...
Army Ranger
Forest Ranger
Englewood Ranger
Fillmore Ranger
Jefferson Park Ranger
Indian Chief
Who gives a shit?
the new star have an rf signature chip in them. whats stopping them from beaming radio signals to control and monitor brain activity. its the new world order taking over. if you dont believe its want they want you to think. gotta go black helicopter just flew by no it was an alien spaceship....
They do make stars with chips in them but its not gps its just like the chip they put in dogs. You can scan it and tell if the star is ligit. I dont know if this is what the city bought but they are out there. The uniform changes do not stop us from having sew on patches or ball caps you have to read the order they just made cosmetic changes, and for the record we are now a 4 ring circus on for each star on that fucking flag
Not true regarding supreme court ruling in this situation. The department would not be tracking you off duty. They would be tracking their equipment like the car or radio. Nothing says we are required to carry star off duty.
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