The Biggest Failure
This is truly in the "un-fucking-fucking-believable category:
- Dear SCC,
"You ain't going to believe this shit..."
Every good copper story starts out with that phrase, but this one is anything but good.
I was assigned to the downtown area yesterday. For part of the day, my group was on high visibility patrol. Sweet gig, nice scenery, beautiful day, walk and talk with the citizens, made a lot of people happy. The other part of the day we sat around Navy Pier, did some drills, saw some demonstrations from the MFF, and got the speeches from the gold stars. The theme was "we're all in this together, let's watch each others' backs." You've probably heard them before.
Then we sat and listened to the radio as downtown and Rahm's neighborhood descended into chaos. We watched our brothers and sisters downtown confronting/being confronted by these assholes on the live helicopter feeds from the various news stations.
And we sat. We listened to the calls for EMS and paramedics for a couple of injured P.O's and hoped everyone was OK.
And we sat. We listened to the bike teams race from one end of the protest to the other after being bused all the way from Rahm's house to downtown, set up and block streets, and then redeploy when their efforts failed - again and again and again, probably 5-6 times.
And we sat some more. Two hundred cops sitting around listening to the situation devolve. Finally, we got the word we were loading the buses. We got on, started prepping equipment and were told that we were headed.....home. Back to Sox Park. Released for the night, while our brothers and sisters were being run to the point of exhaustion, assaulted and lord knows what else. Not only that, but the buses to take us back drove within sight and sound of the demonstrations up and down Michigan Avenue.
I have never been more disgusted with the leadership of this Department. I can only figure that in the name of nickels and dimes, my fellow officers were put into harms way. Two hundred coppers could have made a big difference, cost be damned.
So Tobias and Gulliford and Kirby? Your speeches to the supervisors we were told about all of us being a team and we're in this to make sure no coppers get hurt? You're full of shit. You had a ready force of 200-plus cops set to deploy, even blocking traffic to allow you greater freedom of movement of the meager forces at your disposal and you failed in the name of nickels and dimes. That isn't leadership. That's an accountant with a badge. You fucking beancounters ought to be ashamed. Any trust I had left is gone.
We are speechless.
Labels: un-fucking-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 7:31 AM
144 Comments:
I second this we sat on our asses waiting to get into the fight we never got the chance. Disgusting.
After the protest at Rahms house, about 75 officers sitting watching his house asking if we can go down town and help and were told no.
Guys I hate to pop your bubble but you might be in the center of it the next 2-3 days and should be thankful you missed a day of mayhem. We had bodies spread out everywhere and you can't just leave large sections of the city exposed. For those who got stuck, God Bless you, it could be others turn today, so be ready.
a lot of cops were sitting around, so were the tac platoons....THEY WANT THE SOFT LOOK... cops getting bricks thrown at them... and they still did not have anyone in bdu's or turtle gear to go by the protestors... only had a few platoons with bdu's and helmets went in, when shit started to get really bad, then they had us fall back, sit around for hours while we heard the radio continue to go off, and were released.... state police and county in riot gear were told to stay out of sight.....everyone in their blues that was on the front line yest got FUCKED. We kept trying to go, and were told to stand down because we were in BDU's.... THEY JUST WANTED A MINIMAL FORCE to "maintain order", IN BLUES
I expected a lot more from Wayne. Has always been a great boss, must be another scared puppy. Even Tobias usually has a little bit of balls, especially since he's allegedly leaving a week or two.
Kirby...eh, what else do you expect from her?
The only reason OTHER than penny pinching the FEDERAL PAID over time cost is that maybe they just wanted a few hundred well rested coppers for tonight...wishful thinking.
Well said. How about the water they were handing out , anyone look at the expiration date. 2009
We were four deep, on our days off, with our thumbs up or asses for 12hrs and saying the same thing....
Well this morning I get to see all of our efforts from last night in replys. But instead I see more of McNewGuy and his body guard/driver, DC from the IAD.
I have just watched four diffrent videos of our superintendent and in each shot there is his bodyguard driver to protect him from the protestors.
You have to fucking kidding!
When will this dog and pony show be over. So these department leaders go back to the office and shut up.
Yesterday was the dry run ha ha and they ran the cpd around in circles ha ha leadership there is none on cpd
Semper Fi-Luv's Y signed Gary Schenkel the next Supt
Don't expect to be released tonite. It's tiring waiting around all day for four hour of activity. I was down there with the protesters and we will need fresh bodies the next two days. Nap and get off your feet today when you can. I am so proud of my brothers and sisters who are dealing with this mess.
I was there to the end. You're right on the money.
There were ALOT of inside dollies that were not there. All the while making snide remarks and grinning ear-to-ear at those of us that went out. They hide behind their badges- 30 years ago,they would've got the shit kicked out of them.
These people signed up to be the Police. Fucking cowards.
I hope to see you guys out there tonite.
It's a shame that the few,(and I mean a few) good exempts get associated with the rest of these cowardly POS's.
After this debacle, the the few good guys will be so disgusted, they'll retire.
Be safe out there tonite.
I have a new found respect for the CPD "bike guys". Those guys and gals were taking the brunt of hell all night long. Be safe.
Your absolutely right brother. Either they wanted to save money or completely forgot about u guys. Leaders? This pricks don't know the first thing about leading men all they want is a pay check. Fuck gulliford too he s the biggest two face on the job.
Great job everybody.
Many of us feel the same way. These bosses are burning out the bike teams, having them parallel the protesters citywide and not using the "reserve" troops. They have been getting their asses kicked since Wednesday and none of these bosses gives a rat ass! By the time the "food truck" got to them Friday they were told, "sorry, we are all out" People are on here bitching about others complaining about spoiled/ Expired food.. Most of us have been lucky to get lunches and breaks and have had the luxury of bringing our own coolers. Guess what? That shit doesn't fly on a bike when you are on the front lines for 6 hours without a break. Unreal. You can tell the bosses in charge of manpower and relief don't give a damn about the safety or well being of our officers.
I'm not defending the ineptitude of our so called leadership, but sometimes you need to keep a reserve force for when things get really out of hand. Despite the scuffles in spots, last night was not nearly as bad as it could have gotten.
I'm on the bike team. I want to be named a water bottle as I speed by that's not HOT,
This is true. Especially later on when they were calling for any available van to block streets to keep them in 001 and out of 012. There were plenty of po's sitting in vans and standing around on State St. while help was being requested multiple times. Many times help was called for to hold the line on Michigan, Wabash, State St, even way on the south end by 18th st and Cermak. I'd like to ask this poster if his supervisor called anyone and offered the help. If yes, thank you for at least trying. If not his boss is part of the problem. Stay safe.
I don't think it had anything to do with money. I think that they wanted these officers well rested when the real shit hits the fan over the next two days. Either way stay safe and help each other out.
To the Police having to go to the medical section- DON'T LET THEM PUSH YOU AROUND!!
Know those orders.You'll need them.
Take a photo of the sign-in log with your signature and time you signed in.
Bring a note-pad and keep a chronological log of everything that is said and by who.
They cannot deny you the right to keep notes.
Bring a copy of the orders with you.
Be sure to get the names and Star# or civilian ID # of everyone you have contact with. If they refuse, get the supervisor and get a CR on them.
They HAVE to identify themselves upon request.
Use the rules to protect yourself. The most important one being you have to appear there ONLY if you're physically able to. None of this-"can you get someone to drive you" bullshit.
Demand to see the COMPLETE referral list. If they refuse, get the CR#'s. They'll do it to you.
Be sure to go to your own doctors,too. You cannot trust the the ones they send you to. They tell you they won't pay. So what. What's your health worth?
Cover your ass, have documentation. Keep complete and accurate records of everything. You will need them.
Never forget this- THEY ARE THE ENEMY-and WILL FUCK YOU OVER if you let them.
To the young coppers,PLEASE listen to us 30-year vets once in a while. We've learned a little over the years.
How about the Crook County Sheriff Department. They have over 5,000 sworn at their disposal and they were MIA.
Thanks Guys,
This group of leaders are the biggest pussies! Not one has a clue on how to lead, what a bunch of spineless half wits!! You have no idea how imbarassing and difficult it was to be less the 100 yards from the line and watch and listen to our brothers and sisters calling for help and have your great leadership tell you that you can not go in there and help!!!! Officers hold the crowd as long as they can and then the order comes to let the crowd through what a fucking joke this department has become ( the Seattle of the Midwest! ) imbarassing is the only word I can come up with.
One pissed off copper!
McLying Between His Teeth almost swallowed whole the lie he told news cameras late yesterday, while walking with protestors, that "We're making sure our officers are rotated, refreshed." The BSer caught himself but it was too late-the words were out, now on tape. For just that sec, his eyes/face looked like he knew it would likely bite him in xxx later.
The cost for all NATO CPD costs are being charged back to the Feds including OT. So there must have been a different reason
The cost for all NATO CPD costs are being charged back to the Feds including OT. So there must have been a different reason
I did the same thing, sat around Malcolm X college for 8 hours until we were deployed, only to wait another hour for a cta bus to take us. When Washington/State went up we were already geared up a few blocks away. We all wanted to go help out our brothers... Instead we were to board the bus and go home. WTF
And anyone being surprised by this statement, SHOULD NOT BE. 95% of ALL BOSSES ARE PUSSIES, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Have NO prior military experience, NO sense of SELF RESPECT and DON'T CARE ABOUT NO ONE BUT THEIR SELVES and WILL I GET PROMOTED BY DOING NOTHING AND BEING A GREAT SUCK ASS. As You can see I'm BOILING just thinking about what happened last night.
To all the bosses at the Rahms House detail. Thanks for being so nice!
I was there as well. 001 Tact. I am so disgusted it makes me want to throw up
Amen! I was on a bus and had to put on and take off that stoopid riot gear 3 times because the LT. Could not Make up his fucking mind... To sit there less than a block from all that and be told to sit on our hands is absolute bullshit!!!
You can add 80 or so gang guys who sat on the sidelines and did nothing too. We were never allowed in as the same coppers had to deal with volley after volley of bullshit from the protestors.
Storyteller, really? This is all made for TV theater. The police are just extras. Part of the script, pawns for the Princes and Princesses of Chicago and by extension the world. It's misdirection, bread and circuses for the viewers. Haven't you seen Star Wars? There's no drama if the "Emperor's Royal Guard" wins. Enjoy the extra stipend they've given you and be glad they didn't choose to make your day miserable yesterday.
I had a mobile team in a van and had a pretty good morning/afternoon but then things picked up. I was happy to join my brothers & sisters and help them in a time of need. The teamwork was phenomenal, no thanks to our gold star pukes!
We were on Michigan ave when things were getting hairy, then got the call we were released. This was NOT the time to be releasing teams, but what the hell do I know. I'm just a useless sgt with 27 yrs on. We stuck around until things stabilized then were again called in. On the ride home I heard they took over Michigan ave. Not that me & my team would've changed the outcome, but when you see your Officers in the heat of battle, YOU DO NOT RELEASE TEAMS!
We seriously have NO leadership!
Please be safe and help each other out. We are all we have!!
GOD bless and be safe!
Wow, Speechless! Anyone from the media care to cover this story??
A tip:
a guy who is functioning as a video spy, comm support tech, and internet organizer of NATO protestors and whose work can be seen here:
http://shortwaveamerica.blogspot.com/2012/05/possible-timcast-raid-chicago-police.html
is a Chicago Ham radio guy KC9NCF Dan Hensley
I want to give an early hats off to ALL the bike officers during Saturdays' marches. These coppers raced around the entire Downtown, South Loop, and UIC areas from around 1400 to well after midnight blocking the streets, staying ahead of the groups, holding the lines, and a few scuffles along the way. There would have been no way for us to keep the streets without them. Thanks guys, I hope the bosses remember you too.
There was more than 200, we were staged and ready to go all over the place.
Maximum coverage at minimum cost. you can't have it both ways. Don't be afraid to knock out an exempt in the melee
I was not a pet of that group, we were deployed elsewhere. We were also sent home in the afternoon. We were also surprised as we could hear on the radio how things had gone south. Supt. McCarthy says how we don't need more coppers, we just need to use the ones we have better. Your people suck at allocating manpower.
That is really screwed up. Seeing the idiots in charge of this debacle it's not surprising though.
The front line officers are being over utilized, are under prepared and completely exhausted. Yet the bosses keep flogging them and keeping the better trained, better equipped turtle guys on stand by.! Why so as not to hurt the protestors feelings? This department is SO ass backwards.
To the grunts on the front lines today it's gonna be hot n miserable stay hydrated and stay safe. If the department pushes you to far simply go IOD. They can't deny medical or IOD.
WGN reporter Julie Unruh- you might as well put away the camera and microphone and join the protestors with your highly biased reporting. Yes, the police van's tires were slashed and the police van was moving away from the scene. You never questioned why the idiot protestor would not get away from the front of vehicle. Join the movement Julie, give up reporting!
Tuition reimbursement. Let them pay for your transition the hell out if this circus. The leadership, mainly the lack thereof, is heartbreaking. Most of us sitting around while some of us are getting ridden like workhorses for 12 hours straight.
I joined the dept in 68,retired in 99, and I see NOTHING has changed..Keep the faith brothers!!
Same here, we sat at Malcolm x for four hour writing on buses, only to have 3, sometimes 4 buses of officers ready to go and we sat. That's 6-8 teams of ten suited up and ready to go. Completely unused. Today was a complete failure in resource management. Another day where I was completely embarrassed to be CPD
What do you expect? Look at the promotion policy and how people get where they are.
I have yet to see these platoons of specialized units equipped with turtle gear and days of training on the front line. It amazes me how this whole thing is being handled by the blue shirts and the bike team. I thought the tac and mmf units were the ones classified as 1st tier officers and the rest of us were the 2nd tier? Why did they get all the gear and training to end up driving around in a van all day/night while the blue shirts who got 1 DAY of training back in FEB have to hold the lines?? What polish boss organized that one??? Man, these bosses are dumber than a box of rocks and couldn't manage an ant farm. To all officers, be safe and take care of each other.
This sort of lies in the face of the claims all year of being thousands of P.Os short. If all goes well the next couple days, don't expect any fresh blood anytime soon.
Try working for the sheriff's dept. they send 25 guys to the daily center and hide them in the basement. The rest of the say 50 deputies are assigned bullshit assignments on stand by miles away. This has been going on since Friday . It is our bosses (dart) who are holding back from doing anything.
It really pisses us off that our hands are tided. So please believe me when I say that we want to be right there with you on the front lines. Remember come election time to fuck dart the way he is fucking all of us you included.
Tribune reports today in Business Section that executives pay higher. 2011 median CEO pay is $5.3 million up from $4.12 million in 2009.
Look at who bankrolls the Chgo Civic Federation calling for cuts in police, fire and teacher pensions
Hypocrisy
this is just more evidence of the higher-ups not giving a fuck about us. it is all about what they are told by the man above them. they truly don't care about safety for us. it is always about saving money whenever they can. the officers could have easily been deployed and the situation would have been "better safe than sorry." boy rahm, it'd be a shame if your life was changed negatively from any of this. fuckin' jag-off!!!
Labels: un-fucking-fucking-believable
Sadly, it's believable.
Every War is won by nameless, faceless Privates and Sergeants, while Generals take the credit! The Privates and Sergeants that I saw yesterday were a Credit to Chicago and this nation. You were Professional and Bold even in restraint. I am very proud to have once been one of you, and to be the father of one of you who is out there today. You are the "Real Police!"
For months I have been reading the compliant media parrot Mayor Emanuel’s lies about funding the millions of dollars required to provide security measures for the NATO summit saying that the taxpayers of Chicago will not be stuck paying for it. The only way that could be true is if no Chicago citizen paid federal or state taxes.
Here is a very short Econ 101 lesson expressed in the short, clipped sound bites that Emanuel speaks in:
1} Governments, whether they be federal, state, county or local has no money that they haven’t taken from taxpayers.
2} If the money to provide security from the NATO Summit comes from the federal government, by definition it comes from the taxpayers.
3} The vast majority of Chicago citizens pay federal taxes.
4} The citizens of Chicago are paying the millions of dollars required to “showcase Chicago to the world.”
5} Mayor Emanuel is a typical Chicago politician.
I was there too. It does seem disgusting at first blush, but we are what is called a reserve force (military term). Being a infantry officer (yes USA not Poland), I can tell you with assurance and credibility that the force that was kept in reserve was appropriate.
When the shit really kicks off, you need complete overpowering muscle to wipe the mat clean. After all we cannot call for fire with an attached JTAC.
I'll give you this though, we needed to be "wearing" helmets and not "storing" them.
Consider the detail we had a lucky break. You may not get that break on Sun , Mon, or Tuesday.
America
cpd merit hack exempts really do care about you , not
The protesters are just wasting their's and everyone else's time. The whole world is NOT watching them (the poor babies).
The NATO protests are just not a big story outside of Chicago, not even in a left-wing city like Boston. To wit:
On the very liberal Boston Globe site boston.com, the bigger stories today are the death of the Lockerbie bomber, and "The best beaches in Massachusetts". The top story on the Boston Herald site this morning is that Whitey Bulger's girlfriend's sister is trying to evict a deadbeat renter.
So the Nato protests are just a stupid stupid excercise in futility. But then again the protesters are not exactly what you would call critical thinkers.
I'm thankful to be in Boston a 1,000 miles away from this madness. I wish you all could be, too. Please watch out for your selves, and stay safe.
And a heartfelt thank you, for safeguarding the family, friends and property I left behind in Chicago. You are doing an awesome job CPD, especially the bike Officers!
And a HUGE THANK YOU to all those Bike Unit Officer's.
You guys and gals rock.
You took the brunt of the impact for the past two days.
Please know that ALL of CPD appreciates what you have done.
I concur. they ran those bike cops into the ground. Some boss on the radio was good in giving his praise and encouragement. they don't all suck.
THE most depessing thing I saw was when CPD blocked Michigan av. We shored up the ranks. We joined in at 8. the shitbirds charged the line to crash it. They got stuffed. Pushed back. they came again.....and the bosses let them through!
So sad we have become.
Fancy uniforms laden with gold and grandiose titles doesn't make a LEADER.
You can soak a turd in fancy French perfume, but you still only have a piece of shit.
I actually think after listening to things the deployment plan strategy was pretty good.
It is a sad state of affairs when after a police officer gets hit in the head by a thrown object, that bosses have to key up on the radio for permission to put on their helmets.
Helmets that everyone DID NOT get retrofitted as was promised.
SAD, SAD, SAD
i cant believe what they did to the bike teams...everything was put on them...i have a whole new respect for them...you could see the exhaustion in their faces...they were all running and running...the bosses kept calling for them all over the district...my hats off to all of you bike guys...we just stood around...hoping to do something...anything...but were told...let the bike teams take the front...sad
Since we are on the Safety topic, how about disseminating the fucking information of the day to all the uniformed officers about the UC's prior to the start of the day? Allegedly, numerous UC's (to include Cmdr from 193) were caught in the mele downtown and were repeatedly struck by uniformed officers while trying to restore peace. As the UC's shouted out the information of the day the uniformed officers continued "to use necessary force" all while not understanding why certain people were shouting out some pretty stupid shit....
following stupid things, what the hell is wrong with the county iterop radio channel. Dispatch keeps telling the units that it may not work in the buildings. Nobody can seem to hear anybody! What a Joke!
If your 'informant' had any professional military experience, or even had simply read a little history, they'd understand that a battlefield commander will always keep a force in reserve since the enemy force movement may simply be a feint.
....of course, history isn't taught in CPS....
All things considered, I thought it was handled well last night. Always difficult to be a bullpen and not active.
Hopefully things continue without a major incident.
On the other hand, check out the rioting in Montreal last night.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/20/fire-arrests-and-a-rolling-stone-quebec-student-protests-get-international-attention/
Hmmm ... the term "Force held in reserve" does come to mind when reading this.
What if something HAD occurred while you were dispatched to an area not requiring additional force? Regrouping (1) AND redeployment (2) would have been required ... War College 101 stuff ...
not a po here, regardless, the thin blue line separates civilization from the savages, so please do carry on and TU in advance.
SCC- just read this off Chicagoist Facebook post made 7 minutes ago:
Chicagoist
Anonymous Takes Down Chicago Police Department And City Of Chicago Websites
Anonymous Takes Down Chicago Police Department And City Of Chicago Websites
chicagoist.com
Image via Twitter. Both the Chicago Police Department and City of Chicago websites are down this morning, and hacker group Anonymous has claimed responsibility. Neither website will load as of 11 a.m., and according to Anonymous' Twitter feed, the group is
My fellow officer (my brother) we know the frustration you feel, and we know that blue takes care of blue;and if they take the handcuff off of us then....we could be the real police and not the fucking marshmallows, they're portraying us to be on national news...a news broadcaster said last night, I guess we can see who is in control and it's not the police, as protesters broke through the baracade of officers after being told by supervisors, just let them thru...That's pretty fucked up!!!!!!
And this should surprise anyone? These bastards could care less about what happens to any police officer or fire fighter. Just remember this... when you have an option of doing police work or putting on the blinders. This city is already doomed. The Evil Racoon is mortgaging off what ever Daley left over after he bolted. This little conniving bastard is going to gut your next contract and do all he can to steal your pension. Fuck him!
Wow that's bullshit.
Doesn't surprise me with Guliford. He's shakey as a leaf.
Typical, what with the grossly incompetent senior level Chicago managers.
So Tobias and Gulliford and Kirby? Your speeches to the supervisors we were told about all of us being a team and we're in this to make sure no coppers get hurt? You're full of shit. You had a ready force of 200-plus cops set to deploy, even blocking traffic to allow you greater freedom of movement of the meager forces at your disposal and you failed in the name of nickels and dimes. That isn't leadership. That's an accountant with a badge. You fucking beancounters ought to be ashamed. Any trust I had left is gone.
--------------------
So, did you FINALLY figure it out now? All you goofs that still fall for the "Go Team!!!" speeches by asshole bosses are your own worst enemies. These fuckers DON'T GIVE A RATS ASS ABOUT YOU. They are self-centered, self-serving assholes that are the first to abandon ship when things go south. You goofs are jumping thru hoops to generate numbers and revenue for a city and job that will forget your name shortly after you're fired, killed or sent to jail. Oh yeah, dont you worry your pretty little heads over that little pension thingy. You go get pelted with bottles, bricks, piss, shit, get battered, spit on, fed expired food and drinks, maybe gassed or set afire (scheduled for today per certain sources) and well fix those pension problems - TRUST US!
Be sure to bring in lots of heads when you get back to the district. Impound a few more cars. Write extra ANOVS. DON'T drop a slip for those times you're denied lunch cuz of backlogs. NEVER MIND the fact that the usual suspects once again went on the medical right before NATO came to town. You were ordered to not wear your helmets, but NOTHING will happen to the guys who's back pain mysteriously reappeared this past Thursday.
Can you hear that chanting in the distance??? I can hear it. It's saying "Go Team !!" Rahm Emanuel is leading the pack, waving a big CPD flag too.
Wake up, dummies!! You ARE expendable.
It was all under control. Relax. What if you were needed somewhere else. Maybe you should have a gold star but you don't.
Anonymous said...
Well said. How about the water they were handing out , anyone look at the expiration date. 2009
5/20/2012 07:44:00 AM
Well, the comments here have officially become irrelevant.
It is water. There is no expiration. Ask the FDA.
A lot of my friends are working 12+ hour shifts, then getting 4-5 hours of sleep and BACK ON.
Someone had mentioned that there was a break in at a facility were construction supplies were taken. Also, many other injuries such as a brick to officer's head, officer's being targeted with fluids such as paint, etc into the eyes, etc
One person mentioned that they were without a radio...?
Heard from another copper that SGT A from the bike unit's telling his guys they had to wait 45 minutes to transport an arrest. That nobody in the transport vehicle wanted to even put the arrestee in the vehicle. That the box 1 PO would have to go to Belmont/ Western AFTER a near 15 hour tour. What the eff boss? I mean I know Rahm and Mary McCarthy don't want us to make arrests, but the BIKE GUYS ARE ON THE FRONT LINES what, more tha half the time? Grow a pair addhole, stop trying to deball us white shirt.
"we could be the real police and not the fucking marshmallows, they're portraying us to be on national news...a news broadcaster said last night, I guess we can see who is in control and it's not the police, as protesters broke through the baracade of officers after being told by supervisors, just let them thru...That's pretty fucked up!!!!!!"
Actually, I think that's a great strategy. Give these asshats nothing to justify their rage. So what if they want to march down a street. Big deal. As long as coppers don't get hurt who gives a damn where they march. Another poster mentioned pointing at one of these goofs while whispering something to the officer next to you and then laughing together. This bit of psy-ops really pisses them off and they don't know what to do. Stay safe all.
Anonymous said...
this is just more evidence of the higher-ups not giving a fuck about us
Don't assume animus when sheer stupidity will explain it
5} Mayor Emanuel is a typical Chicago politician.
Worked for one president already
I was down there for 16 hrs in the middle of it all. Just wanted to salute the coppers at state and Washington last night who took care of business when it jumped off. Was crazy ,was a sight to see. Great job again. PO.
You're there to protect corporate property and corporate things and NATO dignitaries don't you see that?
Perspective.
There's a fear perpetuated that a billion dollar corporation may get some spray paint on one of it's buildings and the corporation might have to pay $500 dollars or so to have it cleaned off.
So peoples heads are split open with batons out of that fear.
Cha-Ching.
With each swing of the baton though chances are another ACLU lawsuit will be filed.
Misdirected Resources.
We have an estimated 20,000 gang members in this city that are creating more carnage and havoc each and every week than the 1,000 or so protestors did yesterday.
A 14 year old shot in the back with 12 other people shot and wounded on Friday and a 12 year old shot in the head and five more wounded on Saturday. This is no longer an outlier statistical event. THIS IS THE NORM.
If CPD's primary function is to ensure public safety I would venture to say that a large number of people in this city would feel safer marching with these protestors yesterday than they do sitting on their own front porches.
Corporate buildings are more valuable than peoples lives? Preventing a $500 dollar or whatever cleaning expense is more important than the tens of thousands of dollars being spent in the E-R's, the tying up of medical professionals from treating others?
The above-mentioned troubles notwithstanding, I want to commend the Chicago police for the incredible job they're doing. I was in the Loop last night--received Bonnie Raitt tickets for my birthday---and things were absolutely mellow. I thanked the officers as I walked by.
Unfortunately, you're not responsible for how effectively you're deployed. It's a crock that your fellow officers are having to work while under-manned. May they all enjoy the Good Lord's protection.
I'm aware this is usually a ball busting forum etc. I was in the middle of it all, was a nice feeling when other coppers got ur back and stick together. Just my 2 cents.
Once again, hats off to the bike teams! We're all getting another meaningless ribbon out of this mess, you guys deserve at least an extra recognition. Used and abused and kept on trucking.
GREAT JOB TO ALL OF YOU!!!
Anyone know when NATO starts? Thanks in advance.
CFD CHIMING IN: We are at Mccormick and are doing nothing. What a joke, 12 hrs, go home, sleep 5 hour drive back to Sox part and do nothing again. I was listening to Citywide five and was pissed off. I didnt sign up for this, I wanted to help and support CPD. I WAS CPD once upon a time. GOD SPEED
was down at the park today. They hasd plentyt of troops. They were lined shoulder to shoulder for blocks with the marchers in between them. The bike team lead the marchers. Everything was totally in control in the park and while they lined up to march. Never saw one incident
There were 100's of 2nd watch officers that sat for hours and hours doing nothing When deployed to foot posts, they were nothing more than tour guides. Those officers did not have helmets or gas masks at their disposal. They were released between 8pm & 10pm while the shit was still going on.
Have a relative that worked in turtle gear yesterday for 15 hours (until midnight) and back again this morning at 8 AM. Stay safe, CPD. There are citizens that can only imagine what you are going through but appreciate what you do EVERY day
- Citizen
Silly question of sorts - Why does the operations order say short sleeve shirts ( a debatable directive in a crowd disturbance situation ), but McNumnuts ALWAYS wears long sleeves? Shouldn't he also adhere the the same - sometimes irrational - rules as everyone else? Is his staff afraid to tell him he's out of uniform? Or is he ashamed of his "I love NY" tattoo?
Anyways, everyone please be careful. The district people are with you in spirit.
It was all under control. Relax. What if you were needed somewhere else. Maybe you should have a gold star but you don't.
5/20/2012 12:41:00 PM
I agree, this guy sounds like he just wanted to be in the shit and bust some heads, I understand helping out your fellow officers but let the powers that be handle the situation
Clint Eastwood
If I was a boss I would give the bike unit 10 gun days EACH!! outstanding work officers!!
Hundreds of Sheriff's Police and Deputies were standing by all night. Any time we tried to get in the mix we were threatened and ordered underground.
I hope every injured officer goes IOD. Don't be a hero. This department doesn't give a shit about the grunts on the front lines.
McNutty keeps saying we have sufficient manpower ... see if he can still say that with a straight face as the IOD's mount.
cpd checks out how many door bells future command staff rang , donations to hdo , maggies charity fund etc.
This is the direct result of drinking the company Koolaide.
All you jackasses think this is for real. If you can't figure out that this place (CPD) is anything more than a paycheck (unless your bred into the corrupt system via clout/nepotism) you are a complete fool.
Synopsis for you thick-skulled coppers out there still guzzling the Koolaide: you are a pawn in the game called CPD. You are expendable and easily pacified and lied to in order for others with clout to advance. The ignorant and undeserving rise to the top in the CPD.
When a supervisor says to NOT wear protective head gear where objects will be thrown at you is a fucking disgrace. And they'll be promoted before you will
Anonymous said...
I actually think after listening to things the deployment plan strategy was pretty good.
5/20/2012 11:12:00 AM
what things were you listening to, your one man anus squeaking band?
Anonymous said...
This sort of lies in the face of the claims all year of being thousands of P.Os short. If all goes well the next couple days, don't expect any fresh blood anytime soon.
5/20/2012 10:22:00 AM
i did not know that they could teach the retarded to type.
Sorry to admit but keeping different groups of officers in reserve is the correct thing to do. Thus far the totality of protestor "riots" have been lame and minimal. The boots on the ground have handled the disruptions very well.
So be patient while sitting and waiting, if you are not needed all weekend, that means the department did their job very well.
NYPD here. Sounds like the bike guys have been working their asses off. Great job fellas. Over her they ride small two wheeled scooters, motorized, to do the same job. Flanking the marchers, blocking streets, etc. Stay strong. Don't take the bait. This scum will slither out the same way they came in. Be safe. Our dept. Is 3 times the size but a good majority of those numbers are fat, lazy, teef sucking blue shirts and not cops. The result of 7 years of " the most diverse academy class ever". More worried about their weave and wig than uniform appearance. These people couldnt survive if not for the overwhelming numbers that we have. You guys are making cops across the country proud. The Real Police.
A Manhattan South Cop.
Didnt your Mother tell youits not nice to peddle your ass on the street?
Today in a south-side district officers who were RDO were called in after the length of a normal tour of duty and released. What happened to 12 hr tours.
Talk about saving money for rahm's slush fund...
This comment should not even be a post. Its rather juvenile and shows great inexperience in policing.
The department has done a great job thus far in handling nato protestors. The plan is working very well. And part of the reason its working is by keeping many of groups of officers on standby to be deployed to different locations across the city in case disruptions break out.
Good job to the entire cpd team, whether you were on standby or on the ground, it doesn't matter. That is what teamwork is called.
What do u expect from that useless, never worked the street Kirby? She was never there for the
bulls riots, always hidden inside. But they put her in charge - why?
My friend on the north side said the stupid protesters are all popping pills and looking for more at night, asking anyone where to buy prescription drugs, I hope they all get locked up or taken down, they make me sick, so sorry for all of you dealing with these idiots, and whats up with their cave man hair styles? Thank you God thats not my child looking like a moron. praying for you guys to be safe..
Dress like protesters and go back and start clubbing hippies!!!!!
Ain't it somethin that the Big Bosses are always giving us all accolades when they need something serious done, but are quiet as Church-Mice whn the time comes to stick up for us with a beef, or speack to the politicians about a better raise, equipment, manpower, and working conditions ?
One things for sure, if this comes off even REMOTELY O.K; forget about getting ANY more manpower for at least the next few years.
In a platoon of 5 tact teams...this will be day three of being deployed to a spot and sitting all day. We were stationed a half a block when the trouble started today at 21st and michigan and still we sat watching and hearing other officers hold the line with no reliief. Coward bosses. Gonna be embarassed when my kid asks me what I did while I was away for four days.
I wish I could have been there.
I would have been Santa Claus and bought all the kids in the neighborhood SUPERSOAKERs and bandanas to cover their faces.
Loaded them up with Bay Rum Colonge.(You gotta be really old to know what that stuff is.)
Turned them loose and watched the fun. Have Occupier crybabies cry for the Police.
But, then I kind of agree that Rahm shutting down the mental health facilities and selling the property was a bad idea.
Maybe I'll buy the mental patients the SUPERSOAKERS and tell them to go to Rahm's house.
Should be a fun video.
The CPD "bosses" are as useful as "Ken", of "Ken & Barbie fame.
Watch as rahmboy does ballet steps as he tells media mopes how easy everything went.
There might even be more "merit promotions" as a result.
Chicago has the finest bosses puppet strings can hold.
If this is true... And I was injured during the protest... A lawyer would be contacted right away. When man power is available no officer should be ahort changed insuch hostile situation.
All the talk on the news was how McCarthy was at the scene behind the first line of Police, how about he was behind about 8 rows of police in riot gear. He is also being spoken about in the sun-times as the hero, what a joke.
Maybe the last few days were to let them thinl they ran shit, now they won't expect the ass whopping they have been begging for for a week?
Rope a dope? ...
I've never been a big fan of bosses but I've gotta admit McCarthy has shown leadership and appears to support his troops without question......you may not like him, an outsider and all, but I'll follow him and hope I'm not dissapointed in the end. The guy walked a beat, worked in some tough pcts, moved along and made it a success story. He drinks, makes no bones about it, acts more like us then we are willing to admit and man enough to stand up to naysayers and cry babies. I like the guy, he's learned the game and plays it well, a little better than the rest of us. I haven't seen him whack a P.O. that didn't have it coming. If I get jammed up, would rather have him around than some of these other asshats.....do what you gotta do, but grow some balls and support this guy, at least until he does something that shows weakness an inability to be a good boss.
Was not everyone's days off canceled? Even some light duty people, inside do nothing's, afraid of the street p.o s had to work somewhere this weekend. Then how did confidential IAD snitches get to enjoy there weekend buy not having to stand for 12 plus hours.? Oh, that's right, they can't wear their helmets standing next to a cop they may be following! Take home vehicles, no working a full tour, weekends off AND not included in "days off canceled", what a job! Maybe someone should start watching them!
Now see tonight we came out in force and shit was squashed quick ...period ...LIFM..WHOS HOUSE? OUR HOUSE!
Just FYI I'm sure the protesters have someone reading this, let's not give out too much info. We can bitch about incompetent leaders in a few days until then let's be smart and STAY SAFE together
15 hour shifts....WTF...my third day tomorrow and I am spent! Every officer out there is doing a wonderful job, considering the self control demanded by our bosses. It was really hard to listen to that radio and not be able to run and help. I want to say kudos to whatever boss was on the giving clear verbal direction and support to his troops. The dispatcher who was there just as long as we were did a fabulous job. Thanks also to the salvation army and their volunteers for giving their time and hard work. I know everyone hates this event and can't imagine why protestors are being handled with Kidd gloves, but every officer involved is doing more than just their job, including outside support units. My nephew asked me if I was scared because of the impending violence and I honestly could say no. I trust my fellow law enforcement officers and they have not let me down. Oh yeah and fire too, great job. There were also a lot of citizens thanking us for keeping them safe. Hopefully Monday will be the last day and we can all finally get some much needed well earned rest. God bless everyone and may he keep us all safe.
Anonymous said...
All the talk on the news was how McCarthy was at the scene behind the first line of Police, how about he was behind about 8 rows of police in riot gear. He is also being spoken about in the sun-times as the hero, what a joke.
5/20/2012 08:47:00 PM
Hey, Dickhead ... when the guy is wrong, say he's wrong. But today he wasn't wrong. He stepped right up to the plate. Who's the last Superintendent YOU saw with his troops like that? Now shut the fuck up.
I heard Chief Kirby characterized on Channel 5 as the "architect" of the successful CPD plan of today which she built in conjunction with Supt. McCarthy. Why do you think Georgas was put in as Kirby's 2nd in command? Whether you like him or not, this was all Georgas. I hope McCarthy recognizes that.
This Summit began at 1200 hrs on the 20th . It is not going to end until the 21st at 1400. By my math that is 26 hrs and in that time frame they are going to solve a lot of the World's problems. Take away the Glitz and Glamour hrs (dinners, showcasing the City Bullshit , Night out on Rush street at Tavern) and what are you left with? A party thrown in Chicago at the Taxpayer's expense by your gracious host, Emanuel.And he thinks the City workers make too much money and receive to much Pension. He cares only about himself and the Power he can grab!
Silly question of sorts - Why does the operations order say short sleeve shirts ( a debatable directive in a crowd disturbance situation ), but McNumnuts ALWAYS wears long sleeves? Shouldn't he also adhere the the same - sometimes irrational - rules as everyone else? Is his staff afraid to tell him he's out of uniform? Or is he ashamed of his "I love NY" tattoo?
Anyways, everyone please be careful. The district people are with you in spirit.
5/20/2012 03:28:00 PM
ANSWER: Tats. And they must be pretty interesting, for him to hide them so consistently.
McCarthy is a leader today!..I give the guy props for standing with the men!
I havent seen that in years!
08:29 Shut the fuck up Your gonna sue if you get hurt , po's get hurt, its part of the job. Man I'd hate to be around you. Enjoy the day, only 4 po's were injured and NATO has been a success for the CPD
Thanks also to the salvation army and their volunteers for giving their time and hard work.
________________________
There were also a lot of citizens thanking us for keeping them safe.
5/20/2012 11:01:00 PM
__________________________
I agree, thanks to Salvation Army, BUT REALLY ?? WTF WHY THE EXPIRED WATER. BOTTLED WATER HAD AN EXPIRATION DATE OF JUNE 2009 AND BALONEY SANDWICHES? WTF IS ALL THAT ABOUT. UNDERAPPRECIATED AND TREATED LIKE FUCKING PRISONERS. EXP WATER AND BALONEY SANDWICHES AND THE CRACKERS HAD EXPIRATION DATES AS WELL THAT WERE LONG EXPIRED. FUCK YOU MAYOR !!! THANKS FOR TAKING CARE OF US WITH YOUR BULLSHIT. THE LEAST YOU COULD'VE DONE WAS GIVEN US DECENT MEALS FOR OUR BREAKS... FUCK YOU !!
And to those citizens that thanked us .... THANK YOU !! For appreciating us I was out there for all those hours and must've had at least 10- 15 people come up to us to thank us for keeping them and our city SAFE .. More than I can say for the Superintendant and the racoon !!
Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, keep beat cars in districts and send everyone else to give these guys a break. This is unacceptable what the fuck you all trying to prove that these guys are machines no there human and they are our brothers and sisters. I know stick to the plan, but while you have officers waiving hi and getting contact cards in the hood, the rest are facing fatique and exhaustion. Send more fucken help.
The bike officers and mounted unit ran the show Sat eve.
Question, I am a retired copper and was listening to my scanner and was wondering why they were so concerned about the idiots not crossing over the bridges and deploying all those officers, why didn t they just lift the bridges when needed
Whatever. At the end of the day the CPD looked real damned good with "the whole world watching". Congratulations.
Let Rahm's house burn. He doesn't live there anyway.
THE BOSSES HAVE BEEN OUTSTANDING!!! WHENEVER I HAVE LOOKED FOR INSTRUCTION, MY SGT AND LIEUTENANT WERE QUICK WITH RESPONSES. EVEN THE GOLD STARS HAVE BEEN IN SUPPORT OF US. EVERYONE WANTS TO GO TO THE SHOW, BUT SOMETIMES IT HAS NOT BEEN NEEDED. GREAT JOB CPD!!!
yea i was in the dist dealing with ghetto bs for 12 hours. would have wanted to be down there helping all you guys out.good job
yeah, rah rah rah, you're ALWAYS a Team when they NEED you, but once that's over, you're out there again without their support, as they go back to hob-nobbing with the politicians and laughing about how they duped you all again.
Remember your 2% .............
>>>Anonymous said...
McCarthy is a leader today!..I give the guy props for standing with the men!
I havent seen that in years!
5/21/2012 12:00:00 AM<<<
McDickhead must have learned that from watching the film of '68 and seeing Rochford (knew him well)at the head of his men. (Available on Youtube)
At least he learned something.
Now he should learn the damage he has done for exhausting his troops because there just isn't enough, demoralized with few promotion possibilities and shackled to antiquated technology.
Go to CLTV.com and watch how irritated he gets when a reporter asks him about the FOP billboards which say hire more police.
Now that this NATO shit is over he can congratulate himself and go back to New York and leave the wreckage of the CPD behind.
This is like the second bulls riot. Sent our single tact team to Madison and Karlov after the stadium, where about four coppers from 11 were pinned down under vehicles as they were getting fired at. A huge fire going on at a furniture store and a crowd of hundreds. Calling for help for 45 minutes, while getting shot at, with the firemen, the powers that be held tons of tact teams at the stadium hours after the game was over. A big thank you to our life saver from 11, who jumped on the fire engine and turned the water cannon on the crowd after they fired a shotgun at us. Never did find out who he was but he probably saved our lives! I'll never forget him.
South Suburban Illinois Cop Here...CPD had done a magnificent job doing what they can to control the crowd while taking shit in the process. A lot of yous wanna go in and protect your own by "using the necessary force" to save your brother and sister in blue. Commendable. But there is a reason why some of you were the reserve force, others (especially the courageous bike officers and bosses) were in their places, and those other officers were lying in wait.
It is a superb military tactic. You don't show all of your numbers in every situation. You show an amount of force and reserve those lying in wait for an even bigger situation. Then you flank with your reserve when the situation calls for it. In leadership (for those who are college-educated), you learn that big bosses, like Supt. McCarthy, have to do more than see the little picture or what is before him out in front. He has to have the ability of foresight. You all do your part. Together, you make a difference, not separate.
What? You expect to be out there and not get hurt, overworked? If ya scared, go to church. Tired? Stop complaining. Our brave soldiers have endured much worse. You only have at for a few days. YOU HAVE DONE GOOD. Brave it out a little longer and together , you'll win the day. CHICAGO PRAISES YOU. I PRAISE YOU.
South Suburban Cop (part 2) - Some of you all are complaining about being on CPD and the horrendous problems that plague the department. You could be at areas and in departments like mine that are much much worse. Be grateful that you are where you are or leave. Turn in your star and leave. Some of us who are or have been in shitty departments praise and look up you all for your continual heroic efforts, not just in NATO but in the everyday dept. I LOVE YOUR CAMARADERIE and the fact that it's instilled in you at the academy, or at least by the old school coppers. When I monitor the zones, your dispatchers and all help each other. Yes. Your department has problems. Every department has problems, some worse, like my department, than others. STFU BROTHERS AND SISTERS and be grateful. 44 Camden, NJ cops and others were laid off. You have a job. STFU and work.
Also, one commenter said it best: When was the last time you saw a big boss, especially a Superintendent, out on the streets leading the troops instead of being in the JTAC or JTOC or Compbined Ops center....oh yeah...without a helmet as well? He could have been there, but he wasn't. So ya didn't get the helmets retrofitted as promised. He didn't have his on at all. Some of ya complained about his bodyguard that was always with him. Do you think that if a group of protesters really wanted to get at McCarthy that his bodyguard would have been effective? STOP ALL OF THE COMPLAINING. You guys are the GREATEST. Out of my 6 yrs as a P.O., 2 yrs as a Correctional Officer and 4 years of Military Service, I would give anything to be in your shoes (department-wise, at least) to be in what one cop on SouthLAnd said, "The greatest show on earth."
South Suburban Cop (part 3) - Some of you complain when you don't know how good you actually have it. In the military, you don't question orders. You follow them. There's a reason for everything. Some of you complain about the bosses and don't take steps to be one maybe because you can't lead. And, there's nothing wrong with that, for not everyone is made to be a leader. But, you either lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way. I LOVE YOU CPD GUYS AND GALS. I BACK THE BLUE CAUSE I'M BLUE TOO.
Have you ever thought that your "non-presence" didn't bring about a challenge to an even greater attack against the police and the city? What if all of you that were lying in wait rushed in and caused an even bigger riot, bomb activation, or maybe a "5/20" or "5/21" (in 9/11 lingo)? There is a bigger plan more than your immediate foresight can see, that maybe sometimes the best fight is the one not fought? STAND TALL AND STRONG. SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND PLAY YOUR ROLE. SUPPORT YOUR GOOD LEADERSHIP, for being a boss is NOT easy. If ya think so, you try it. LOVE YOU CPD. --- A South Suburban Cop and Supporter of Chicago's Finest
MPD MIRT sat as well. We had your backs as you had their backs--too bad we weren't used to directly assist those on the line.
Yes most things went well for the department.
A lot of things didnt work out and something's plain sucked.
Water and feeding the troops was as disaster.
So the department needs to undertake a compressive after action report and identify the stuff that didn't work nd attempt to put a plan in effect to fix it for next time.
An army travels on its stomach. A basic tactic in a war is to make the enemy as vulnerable as possible. Hungry soldier is not a good soldier.
It is water. There is no expiration. Ask the FDA.
5/20/2012 12:47:00 PM
There is an expiration date for the plastic that the water is in---it breaks down and contaminates the water.
So you were assigned to the reserve company, that was your job. If they needed you the city would have been burning. I am not a boss but you are a crybaby.
Post a Comment
<< Home