Low Class Wysinger
We're actually thinking of changing Al's name to "Weis-inger" if he manages to get to the top spot.
In the meantime, Al demonstrated just how far he's gone down the kool-aid highway by taking a very public swipe at Gene Williams after McHighStress got called away for an important phone call:
In the meantime, Al demonstrated just how far he's gone down the kool-aid highway by taking a very public swipe at Gene Williams after McHighStress got called away for an important phone call:
- McCarthy will be admitted to Jackson park soon, even Chief Treacy knew he was losing it. Funny how just when it was getting even crazier Mcwhackjob got a message on his blackberry and had to leave.
But good ole Al maintained the madness by telling gene Williams that his head was on the "chopping block" over this time due issue. There is some feud between the two of them but Al needs to be a man and a good boss and handle that shit in private. Degrading a subordinate in front of others never accomplishes anything. I understand that's the way they do it in new york, but this isn't new York you group of morons.
This certainly isn't New York, and acting like a low-class asshole seems to be the new "in" thing at ConStat meetings. But that shit in Chicago just doesn't motivate us at all.
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posted by SCC at 12:09 AM
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but fuck you wysinger is classy? not rlly
fuck you AL. You couldnt hold a candle to Gene Williams. At least gene has some class and has a good relationship with the blue shirts.
"Degrading a subordinate in front of others never accomplishes anything. I understand that's the way they do it in New York, but this isn't New York..."
You understand wrong, fella. Take your "New York thing" and shove it up your ass. Don't try to sabotage the brotherhood that exists between the NYPD and the Chicago PD by talking trash.
Hibbity jibbity
July 5 no activity
New York times with another good story about how all the compstat numbers are false. Yeah Rahm and Mcjersey shore can lie all they want people know crime isn't down. I'm guessing the reader will break the story in Chicago because the trib and scum times are in mayors pocket.
"We're actually thinking of changing Al's name to "Weis-inger" if he manages to get to the top spot."
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"Asshole" is easier to remember, and just about everyone knows how to spell it... even other merit gold star Bossholes.
I no longer feel the need to drop a slip for time due as I no longer do anything on the job. My stress level dropped to zero and it's once again a pleasure to come to work. I can follow that radio all night long because I just don't care. It's very liberating.
Dear Al, I hope one of your minions shows this to you. Williams turned over the reins to you as a baby Cmdr in 015. Remember that Al? Now you want to chop his head off? Shame on you. You have no integrity or ethics. I guess that's the type of bosses they want now. You have really lost your way. I feel sorry for you.
Someone who was there in the beginning.
Al wysinger isn't drinking the kool aid, nor is he re-imaging himself. He just an innate idiot. He's always been a company man desiring to be Dana Starks. Whatever
It takes to get to the top he wil do it even if includes throwing countless Blue shirts under the bus. In fact, he has always held uniformed officers in contempt. He's no friend to anyone right now, but the superintendent. And that's only because he is drooling at the chance to get his position.
Interesting tidbit SCC-chicago's own Blair underwood will be on an episode of secret millionaire this Sunday night on channel 7. It will feature the hundreds killed in the chciago ghetto and author Steve Kaplan will be throwing money at the "needy.".
I can't see Williams sticking around much longer and taking this shit from Mr. "Everybody loves me" Al.
Williams has the age and the time, it makes no sense to stick around and take that shit at these weekly CompStat follies. Fuck McNutty and Al, there are better things to be doing with whatever time he has left on this earth. If McNutty/Wysinger have all the answers, let THEM get down to the business of stopping the shootings!
SCC, why wait to change the spelling of Al's last name? Clearly the man has an intravenous Kool-Aide bag hanging from his bed at home; just call him out for what he is, a mouthpiece for city hall! Al's pretty much been the 'teflon man' with little to no real leadership skills for much of his so-called career.
It appears that nothing has changed, and he continues to lead the charmed life.
O.T.
About the homicide numbers...
Homicides peaked at around 900 in the 90's. Now were are looking at 400-500. How much of that decrease is attributed to medical advances? How many of the people shot today would have died in the 90's?
10 years of war have done wonders for emergency medicine. Military emergency medicine tech has saved thousands of our military heroes and is now saving hundreds shot in the streets of Chicago.
The real number to look at is how many people were shot in the 90's verses how many people are shot today. My guess is more people are shot today. They're just not dying like they used to.
comparing todays homicide numbers with past numbers is BS. compare people shot. That's a more accurate stat.
But I'm just a dick...what do I know?
Inundate his inter-dept mail with time due slips ann donuts coupons and flyers
Anyone else notice Gene Williams title has been "Acting" Chief since Ernie Brown left yet all others with "acting" in front of their title have had the acting removed?
Where's the changes???????????
My Bank wants to know!!!!!!!!!!
Sergeants List?????????????
Not a long wait my ass Mr. Superficial!!!!!!!!!
Isn't there a new streaming video out on how to deal with people? Al were you using one of your cornerstones at comstat?
How in the world did politics in Chicago take over the police department?
Merit promotions! Don,t need to pass a test or have a degree. Just get your clout to proclaim you a supervisor.
Now you are Sergeant that never had a bad job and never learned how to be the police because you were taken care of.
Well now who took care of you? Not a million dollar question. A Sgt. or Lt. or W/C or D/C or Tact Lt. or Chief, Etc. Take your pick.
What is the common thread here. Not a million dollar question again.
The merit dummies were taken care of by those who were previously proclaimed too stupid to pass a test and are now your Sgts. Lts. and most disturbing your W/C and Chiefs and yes, your 1st Deputy.
So the incompetent have taken over all the exempt spots with few exceptions. This is courtesy of your elected officials, this includes your Mayor.
A Mayor that has proven to be clueless about how to keep a great big city police department running without interference from political hack bosses who are also clueless because they have been given merit spots.
His choice of Mclueless administrator has compounded the problem. Mclueless is a disgrace with the way he twists the comstat numbers to show crime dropping. Well you can't comstat Murder.
Everyone wants their gold braid pension but they don't deserve it.
The police department is crumbling under lack of leadership.
The New York model of policing is a farce.
The citizens on the south and west side of this city are under
siege and your leadership has their head in the sand.
Some may say who cares about those gang bangers. Well wilding is on Michigan Ave. Wilding is on our beaches. Your leadership on the police department has never had a bad job so they don't how to be the police. They couldn't find dope if it was in front of them. They don't know how to fight crime. They have never been the real police. Clueless.
Mclueless will continue to have constat meeting that mean nothing. The incompetent merit exempts will say yes sir and keep their clout spots because they know were their bread is buttered. They will fool
the politicians and citizens and obtain the gold braid pension. Few will deserve it.
So in a nutshell being made a supervisor by proclamation instead of by examination is the root of the leadership problem on the CPD.
Why double, triple, (or more)promote incompetent people! Insane!
Get politics out of the CPD!
Who's the idiot that comes up with the idea for 80/20 and crown cap for these ot iniatives news flash it's hot out and especially for the taste I thought we r allowed to wear shorts in summer and didn't have to wear a hat after may so obviously another example of the stupidity of the leadership go in any uniform u want I gurantee they will not send u home they can't even get enough people to sign up for this shit and watch how many people don't sign up for taste they r gonna use us for traffic control tell mcdrunko and the idiot bid al merit wysigner to smarten up let us wear a comfortable uniform moron
This guy actually believes he's in his current position because he's qualified. That, in and of itself, wouldn't be that bad except like most people whose only qualification is to satisfy a quota (i.e. a token hire) he now expects more of the people he's supposed to lead than he ever expected of himself when he was in their shoes. People like him, and those who promote people like him, are so far removed from reality that they don't see, or care, that communicating at a 3rd grade level wouldn't qualify him to run a McDonald's. It discredits the whole organization when someone so obviously underqualified is put in a leadership position, but the really sad thing is none of that matters to McNutty or 9.5 because this guy serves a purpose just by being a token in a position of authority who is willing to spout the company line/propaganda.
Y would any officer do anything but answer there calls is beyond me u really have to be an idiot to do more than ur supposed to the way the city treats us 19p covers all
Ive almost hit my 20. They have acted like low class assholes my whole career.
al Weis-inger has made a complete 180 degree turn from the guy I knew a few short years ago. I feel sorry for you guys if he makes it to the top spot. As for me, . . and counting
Tell me, your a boss like Wysinger and your short-handed with police officers, crime is spiking, and you need to give solutions to the problem.......well sure EVERYONE knows we need to hire more police officers BUT......say that is NOT an option right now...now what? ..........Go ahead and come up with a solution. Thought so. The only solution left is to DENY time due. When I was PO i actually "enjoyed" coming to work. These useless excuses for police officers I supervise today are a sad joke. You selfish officers just care about yourselves. You would rather have someone working 99 on a beat car answering jobs so you could be at home doing the same thing you do when your at work......"NOTHING"!!! So quit your crying all you crybabies. Do your job and quit bitching for HAVING to do ur job.....that's what u get paid for anyway. Boo f*cking hoo.......and if it's your child's birthday then PLAN it on ur RDO!
Nothing Gene Williams has not done in the past ,,, was it not this Blog who slammed Williams in the past????
fuck eugene williams that hack he's a fuckin puppet of preachers and politicians everywhere
kisses brookings ass like its made of gold
youre not gonna be the supt williams why are you still hanging around trying to set a record for the department's longest acting chief?
If this moron takes over for McCarthy, he'll fire all the good people and hire in his posse and then we'll see what happens...... God help this city. Give some people a TEENSY WEENSY bit of power and look what happens to them?
Day off time due - no work from a cop if that happens. He's at home.
Denied day off time due - cop on the street not proactive and dogging every job he gets. Just a pissed off body in blue.
Has common sense really flown the coop?
Can whoever is running the show over at the OT violence initiative tell the pos that are working it to stop running multiple names (3) plus over the air on zone 10. It's busy enough as it is but to do this on a Friday night at midnight is just crazy. I don't know where you work but that's something you don't do on the weekends in the ghetto, get your event number and finish that later.
You understand wrong, fella. Take your "New York thing" and shove it up your ass. Don't try to sabotage the brotherhood that exists between the NYPD and the Chicago PD by talking trash.
6/30/2012 12:33:00 AM
I'm guessing that their bosses are big assholes just like ours, so there really is a brotherhood.
comparing todays homicide numbers with past numbers is BS. compare people shot. That's a more accurate stat.
But I'm just a dick...what do I know?
6/30/2012 02:39:00 AM
Ah, a thinking man. We won't have any of that around here. You'll fuck up the spin. The next thing you'll tell us is that the beach wasn't too hot near the cool water.
these people from comstat cant even be original, they are taking a page right out of an episode from the wire. what next, hamspterdam!
Gene if you read this, and I hope you do remember one thing you are a good person and are well respected by the blue shirts on the job. I worked for you in 015 when you were sent there. Even though it was probably a dump for you from narcotics, i have to commend you for never taking it out on the troops there. You sir are a class act and always seemed to have the time to talk to the men and women who worked for you. Please don't let them stress you out and let this job effect your health, it is not worth it.
Signed,
Former 015 P.O.
O.T.
About the homicide numbers...
Homicides peaked at around 900 in the 90's. Now were are looking at 400-500. How much of that decrease is attributed to medical advances? How many of the people shot today would have died in the 90's?
10 years of war have done wonders for emergency medicine. Military emergency medicine tech has saved thousands of our military heroes and is now saving hundreds shot in the streets of Chicago.
The real number to look at is how many people were shot in the 90's verses how many people are shot today. My guess is more people are shot today. They're just not dying like they used to.
comparing todays homicide numbers with past numbers is BS. compare people shot. That's a more accurate stat.
But I'm just a dick...what do I know?
6/30/2012 02:39:00 AM
Shootings are way lower than what they use to be. It wasn't uncommon for districts such as 002, 003, 007, 011, 012, 014 and a few others to easily have over 200+ shootings a year. Now most of those districts hardly reach 150. 002, 012 and 014 don't even reach 50.
You also have to take into account that in the 80s and 90s our population also was much larger.
Sure medicine has save a lot more lives, but fact remains there is less shootings.
Ok, if I can't use my time due then I would like a check for the entire amount right now. Imagine if the city had to buy out all of our time due immediately. Remember, they didn't even want to pay us for one day of OT when some of us worked 6 consecutive days for NATO.
6/29/2012 06:02:00 AM
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I was wondering about this. I know you want the "time due," but if it is denied, can you convert it to OT?, then organize so that all make the demand during the same pay period, like maybe a 1-1/2 months or so before any municipal election, e.g. w/ enuf time for it to make the news. That would hurt and make people take notice.
Was assigned to an 1-day detail downtown many years ago. Gene Williams was there. Good sense of humor and easy-going attitude and backed up the Blue Shirt. My thought back then was that this Man would be a damn good Superintendent. Still holds true to this day. Wysinger's problem is simply jealousy and envy.
"You understand wrong, fella. Take your "New York thing" and shove it up your ass. Don't try to sabotage the brotherhood that exists between the NYPD and the Chicago PD by talking trash"
You're right, we want a strong brotherhood, just take McNumbNuts back and we will love you forever!
O.T.
About the homicide numbers...
Homicides peaked at around 900 in the 90's. Now were are looking at 400-500. How much of that decrease is attributed to medical advances? How many of the people shot today would have died in the 90's?
10 years of war have done wonders for emergency medicine. Military emergency medicine tech has saved thousands of our military heroes and is now saving hundreds shot in the streets of Chicago.
The real number to look at is how many people were shot in the 90's verses how many people are shot today. My guess is more people are shot today. They're just not dying like they used to.
comparing todays homicide numbers with past numbers is BS. compare people shot. That's a more accurate stat.
But I'm just a dick...what do I know?
6/30/2012 02:39:00 AM
From the Chicago Tribune, September 24, 1990:
"Someone is murdered about every 10 hours in Chicago. An average of 36 shootings occur each day-that's 252 a week, 1,008 a month, 12,096 a year at the current rate. There also is a daily average of 28 stabbings and 45 serious assaults with other weapons."
Chop This Al .... You Moron!
comparing todays homicide numbers with past numbers is BS. compare people shot. That's a more accurate stat.
But I'm just a dick...what do I know?
6/30/2012 02:39:00 AM
That's a great post. Reporters trolling for an easy, interesting story, here you go!
Al's career has been 'blessed' from early on. Like many bosses on the job, he seems to have had the inside track for years. You can see these guys going up over the years. Some are good bosses, some aren't.
The good bosses learned a few things from other good bosses over the years. They look after the officers that work under them as well as their own responsibilities. They have an appreciation for what they have been given.
The bad bosses believe that they are all that. They are under the mistaken impression that they deserve their rank. They are usually arrogant and clueless. Decide what you want to be Al.
To the NYPD guy it's not personal but we just do things differently here
They want to talk shit to each other fine who cares, those big paycheck clout fatso's can kill each other for all I care. It will be a different story when they take a shit on us however. Blueshirts won't take it, and it will lead to taxpayer disatisfaction, which leads to political heads rolling.
http://swnewsherald.com/emanuel-misleads-public-about-police-p1653-1.htm
Interesting tidbit SCC-chicago's own Blair underwood will be on an episode of secret millionaire this Sunday night on channel 7. It will feature the hundreds killed in the chciago ghetto and author Steve Kaplan will be throwing money at the "needy.".
6/30/2012 02:13:00 AM
Chicago's own?!?!? He aint from here.
I've said it before i will say it again. how can one grown man or woman on this job let another so-called grown man on this job degrade them in public. shame on all of you that let it happen. you stand there scared to stand up for yourself get demoralized and then your going to come back to your district or unit and do the same to the rank and file and expect us to work, good luck. my g.o. says answer calls in a timely manner, you will have your bodies in cars but dont look for any activity or preventive policing.
If the berating thing is true, a cr should be taken out. I don't know the exact wording, but its a violation to berate a subordinate officer by a supervisor in the presence of others. Don't want anyone to take time due??? I will gladly call it flu due. I will take the 3 days offand hit the medical and I hope anyone that gets denied time does the same. Yes, its an asshole move, but we need to fight this battle within our contractual rights. Make no mistake about it, Rham brought in an outsider to destroy the morale of this once great department and that's exactly what is happening. I don't think its any coincidence that morale is so low during contract talks. He wants us to be beaten down so he can try to make us feel happy with any small bone he can throw us. FUCK RHAM. We need to keep our heads up and throw it back in his beady-eyed face!
Hey accoring to todays trib, only 5people shot, 1 dead overnight...Crime is down... See CeaseFire thing must be working...
Hey, they don't do that shit in NY, ok? Al was putting on a show and pontificating. That's what he does best. He's simply the local guy running interference for the outsiders.
Gene Williams is a decent boss, good copper, and a gentleman - he most certainly did not deserve the couple of swipes Wysinger took at him.
Inappropriate, cheap shots come from little people in big jobs.
Really wish people would quit reffering to our brethren from NYC in a negative light. I know it is not meant that way but if I was from NYC I could see being annoyed or confused about several of the comments made on this board that make it seem like we see them as some kind of assholes.
Just because McCarthy has no people skills and came from NYC does not mean its a NYC thing. People here are just annoyed that mcdrunky is pushing his system on us when we know for a damn fact that once he is gone we gonna have to undo all the shit he fucked up.
The city is doomed, homicide figures can't be changed and the death rate increases with each watch, the street police officer is something from the fast, the present police officer just puts out the fires during his tour of duty, collects his paycheck and goes home and tries to b normal. Who cares anymore, the leadership were never street police officers but made rank because of favors due someone else, I'm a retired detective and once a street police officer but in the era where a boss would the street with you and protect your back when the job was done. Keep safe Officers and collect your pay checks, who cares anymore
Politics has always been part of the CPD, It's just gotten out of control.
Haha.... If you haven't figured it out, it's the Divide and Conquer approach....
Al and Gene Williams as well as all the other Black bosses are part of NOBLE (National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives). Rahm is no different than Daley... They have and are using every superintendent and their administration to dismantle the once very strong Organizations within the Police Dept.. From Hillard (who was hated by his own people) to Cline who eradicated LAPA and MAPO (pitting Maria Maher and Hiram Grau against all the Hispanics) and then Weis who crushed the Irish... All these organizations are just BS now... Hang out "support groups" to bitch and moan about how no one has juice and no one is getting shit anymore.
The department is so fucked up because historically people helped their friends move up regardless of their capabilities... Now we find our department in a state of emergency with little to no people who know what the fuck they are doing. You can bring in the best Superintendent to the game but if they are given a bench that is short (Bosses with no clue what to do) they are going to lose the game... There is only so much they can do with shitty "playas"...
Anyhow, Gene has been passed up on several occasions... The Hall has not forgotten what he did under the Daley Administration and they have wanted him and a few others out for some time now but they just won't leave...Like Hector Rodriguez (dumped from MLAS then dumped from VICE and now traveling from one end of the city to the other). Bobby Lopez dumped and shifted around like a ping pong ball... Carothers the same...Trahanas...Helm...Need I go on? The Dept. can't fire them but strategically fucks with them (in hopes that they quit) by shifting them around and having them in fucked up jobs or traveling an hour and 15 mins to and from home etc.... All I can say is that if they are that dumb and can't see the writing on the wall then they deserve what their ultimate demise is...I don't see why all these "bosses" don't just leave at once especially at the height of all this crime so that Al and Garry can run around like chickens with no heads.
Bobby you spearheaded that BS AHLE organization that has done absolutely nothing.... Why don't you organize "a movement" for the existing bosses and plan one big mass retirement of all of you and let the deparemt scramble to find replacements all at once with no experience. Now that would really make National News...."Command staff in Chicago walk off job and resign after refusing to work for Bully Superintendent".
Where's the changes???????????
My Bank wants to know!!!!!!!!!!
Sergeants List?????????????
Not a long wait my ass Mr. Superficial!!!!!!!!!
Although the Supe is still doing interviews for meritorious promotion to lieutenant, there will be 56 sergeants and 26 lieutenants going into the academy on 16 July 2012.
Congratulations to all that made it, and good luck to those who are close.
070512...Do nothing...
Wea-sel-inger
Anonymous said...
July 5 no activity
6/30/2012 12:40:00 AM
Why only July 5th? How about every day until there is a new and fair contract.
Anonymous said...
I no longer feel the need to drop a slip for time due as I no longer do anything on the job. My stress level dropped to zero and it's once again a pleasure to come to work. I can follow that radio all night long because I just don't care. It's very liberating.
6/30/2012 01:43:00 AM
Welcome to the club.
Worked for him for a while. Decent fair man years back. Very disappointed if this is true. We need time to enjoy life, time that we earned working for the city. It like whipping a dead horse . We all need time for family.
An Asshole will always be an Asshole regardless of how much gold braid gets added to his hat, or gold eagles/stars to his shoulders.
All the added Bling means he never hits his head while under the desk of those who can help him rise to the top. Even a greasy turd floats to the top of the bowl.
" GMac ; " ... I work for the Mayor, what he says goes."
So applies to every one of the Exempts. They do what they're told. Its shut up you moron and let another idiot speak buffoonery that make this Dept a blunder. I wonder what the bosses real think about politics or if they really give a rats ass about 'the children', there hasn't be too much said about the last Dist Commander promotions has there? How's that working out ?
If anyone of them a set they'd be telling late night lemonade stand operators to abide by a curfew.
Don't badger the donut munching Patrol Div about numbers, We're exhausted.
comparing todays homicide numbers with past numbers is BS. compare people shot. That's a more accurate stat.
But I'm just a dick...what do I know?
6/30/2012 02:39:00 AM
TOTALLY CORRECT! PUBLIC DOESN"T UNDERSTAND the difference.
I have chunks of guys like Weisenger in my stool!
1. Al you changed and have lost respect of 99% of the department after the other day.
2. The constat meeting for this Thursday is cancelled. Why you ask.... because it comes after 4 Jul and the exempt members are taking the day off. This is real BS, Practice what you preach.
3. Al you changed and its not pretty.
Sure medicine has save a lot more lives, but fact remains there is less shootings.
6/30/2012 08:44:00 AM
You drank the kool-aid!
In Sept. 2008 Det. Div. Chief Al Weisinger addressed the 3rd watch roll call at Area One Det. Division and told the troops that 'help is on the way!' He outlined an approved plan that would see one hundred officers promoted to Detective in mid November of '08, and assigned to the Areas for the 13th period. This would be followed by another class of Detectives approximately seventy five in number, starting the academy in mid January of 2009. Well none of that ever happened. People retired and were never replaced. People died and were never replaced. How's your credibility doing' Al?
Shootings are way lower than what they use to be. It wasn't uncommon for districts such as 002, 003, 007, 011, 012, 014 and a few others to easily have over 200+ shootings a year. Now most of those districts hardly reach 150. 002, 012 and 014 don't even reach 50.
You also have to take into account that in the 80s and 90s our population also was much larger.
Sure medicine has save a lot more lives, but fact remains there is less shootings.
I would like to see the stats on the above posted comment. It sure seems as if more people are being shot today then they were in the 90's. It seemed when a person was shot in the 90's they usually died. Today it seems many more people get shot, but the doctors are keeping more alive.
comparing todays homicide numbers with past numbers is BS. compare people shot. That's a more accurate stat.
But I'm just a dick...what do I know?
6/30/2012 02:39:00 AM
TOTALLY CORRECT! PUBLIC DOESN"T UNDERSTAND the difference.
also, compare total numbers of people shot, not just incidents where more than one person got hit....then, compare homicide and agg battery stats from then, until now, per capita (i.e., population totals).....add something else interesting....do the stats by district, beat, or zip code.....hello?
No one is getting promoted because there are no vacancies. Once had about 1300 Dets now have about 900. New York has 5000 and less murders than Chicago. Most Dets in NY never see a dead body.
We could probably get additional officers hired if Sgts and Lts. working in the field would stop handling calls for service. Ladies and gentlemen you are SUPERVISORS stop doing our jobs, you are partially to blame. When the calls get stacked up and no one answers them people will start bitching, and that will get results. You did take and pass a test to become a boss dodn't you?
Anonymous said...
They want to talk shit to each other fine who cares, those big paycheck clout fatso's can kill each other for all I care. It will be a different story when they take a shit on us however. Blueshirts won't take it, and it will lead to taxpayer disatisfaction, which leads to political heads rolling.
6/30/2012 09:43:00 AM
You're right. Now go back to sleep, moron.
Are there ever really any good proven bosses? Or just promoted hacks and tail wavers?
NYPD here no offense taken. Comstat is a total farce. We have been denied lost time, our time due, for years. Weekends from April to October are most often designated " no excusals" as per our patrol Boro. That's the next level up from a precinct. A Boro manages many precincts in an area. No excusals means no lost time, E-day, and if you go sick you see a department surgeon that day. Only scheduled vacation picks. This is all a page out of our play book. And we have 24,000 or so Police Officers. Stay safe. We are all brothers.
Nice try about Al Wysinger being the Detective Division Chief, he was never the D unit chief and I don't think that he EVER worked in the D unit. He was the Commander of 015 in 08.
maybe....look at it this way (or another way, or maybe the same way)....Chicago, and the CPD, has always been infected and corrupted with politics...the politics of race, ethnicity, class, gender, sexual preferences, family and friendship connections, and on and on....whether it comes to assignments or promotions, the organization is corrupt.....and so who, if anyone (Hillard, Cline, Rodriguez, Weis, McCarthy, etc.) does the right thing, sets the proper course, says and does what is right?......anyone? does anyone have the integrity and character, to do...what needs to be done?
bottom line-Nobody likes Wysinger. Everybody likes Gene Williams. Reason; Gene Williams has a personality and was the real police.
No Time, no work . Haha suck it JR.
011/3rd Fed-Up-Sgt. said...
Tell me, your a boss like Wysinger and your short-handed with police officers, crime is spiking, and you need to give solutions to the problem.......well sure EVERYONE knows we need to hire more police officers BUT......say that is NOT an option right now...now what? ..........Go ahead and come up with a solution. Thought so. The only solution left is to DENY time due. When I was PO i actually "enjoyed" coming to work. These useless excuses for police officers I supervise today are a sad joke. You selfish officers just care about yourselves. You would rather have someone working 99 on a beat car answering jobs so you could be at home doing the same thing you do when your at work......"NOTHING"!!! So quit your crying all you crybabies. Do your job and quit bitching for HAVING to do ur job.....that's what u get paid for anyway. Boo f*cking hoo.......and if it's your child's birthday then PLAN it on ur RDO!
6/30/2012 07:09:00 AM
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Well Sarge, not only are you an idiot, but your a big part of the problem! You want a solution, well here it is....
Band together as a team and support your troops. Provide officers with as much support and flexibility as needed to balance the extra work needed on the street and time for themselves and their families. Stop with stupid "boxes", "foot posts", "dumb uniform regulations 80/20's, crown caps", etc.. etc..", Open up bidding to districts, have promotional classes even if its only friggin 10!, Have a promotional test or two so someone with almost 10 years on the job has their FIRST opportunity to even take a friggin test. Treat officers with respect, dignity and fairness as that is all anyone really ever asks for and wants. Minus the promotions, none of these things cost a dime and should have been in place all along. This simple solution would make officers actually want to work, work harder than ever and feel obligated to their supervisors to produce for them. A happy workforce = great production. A pissed on work force = you get what you give.......SHIT!
I've reached my breaking point. Nobody can continue at this pace. I just want to lay down and not wake up.
I believe the First Deputy is a good person. I have never witnessed him treating any blue shirts badly. He has always been respectful and easily approachable so this stuff seemed weird. I got the impression that he has high expectations, that's not a bad thing. Maybe he used the wrong words because he was upset. It's not cool to call anyone names so knock it off with the swear words.
Can whoever is running the show over at the OT violence initiative tell the pos that are working it to stop running multiple names (3) plus over the air on zone 10. It's busy enough as it is but to do this on a Friday night at midnight is just crazy. I don't know where you work but that's something you don't do on the weekends in the ghetto, get your event number and finish that later.
Amen that was terrible last night!!
To the fed up sgt in 011 I would agree with you if they werent trying to fuck us on every turn if they werent trying to take my pension, if they would back us up on a b.s. c.r., if they wouldnt control the media to make us look bad, and if they didnt take care of the medical abusers and dogs because they dont want to make waves, then i honestly would agree with you but you cant expect us to live up to the proper standard if they dont. I have 19 yrs on I am not a dog and I never abused the medical. I am very happy to have this job in this economy, and I would not care if we got nothing the next 3 years and they didnt take nothing but you know they keep trying to fuck us. I will contiune to work cause thats the way I was raised not for you ar any other boss but for myself.
Rumor from the 5th floor is that Al Weis-enger has taken timedue himself and his soon to be promoted merit lieutenant wife who still drives a company car while street officers are forced to operate pool cars with nno A/C, left town for ten daysfor vacation. How can our own leader leave town during the spike in violence and after berating the exempt members about time due on weekends. Isnt that the pot calling the kettle black. Wow.
WTF-- they are both Merit all the way. Gene Williams was one of " Beavers" guys -- take that to the bank. And everyone knows Al is the product of west side revruns.
So if one was an ok person or not has no bearing on the facts-- both merit with clout. One clout is now heavier than the others - thats all folks.
Here is a better fitting and appropriate name for our first deputy DOG Al Wysinger. AL LYE-SYNGER!
All comp time for the month of July and August in 011 2nd watch has been denied by the Lieutenant.
Only he can take Comp Time in July and August.
Just ask him why he is listed as "CU" for 1 July 2012 on the sheets. WHO APPROVED YOUR CU LT?
Is this discrimination against all us 9161's? Sounds like a grievance should be filed and Legal Action should be taken by Lodge against the department and these self serving egomaninac bosses.
What a joke all these so called bosses have become.
The only crime number you can not hide is an Homicide that why crime is down and murders are up, does the media not get it.
Anyone who can take a look at the lineup in 011 tomorrow.
The Lieutenant is listed as "CU"!
WTF!
So unless you are a Lieutenant or above you will not be able to take a day off to be with your family for those events which only happen once in a lifetime.
The big F for your al wysinger.
Hey Sgt from 011
Get bent, the guy is asking for his child's first birthday off, not a fantasy football draft. Goof.
7: 09 am, boo fuckin hoo, for wanting a day off. Dont know if you have a family or the kool-aid enema puncture your colon poisoning your "perspective". Grew up with many a coppers kid, hanging over our home, going on family vacations and events, because their po mom or dad, had to work and couldnt take the day off. Some were resentful of the lack of time together and acted out. The manpower issue has made it so the cycle will repeat itself. It isnt the po's fault that their non-po husbands, wives, and children have summer vacations. When you took the oath it never said you were to give up your family for the summer, because assholes like your past/current mayor, the four star hack from NYC, the three star "crime is good" yahoo cant get it together. Bet your boot lickin ass they will take mini vacations and days off for their families. So if a coppers, writes about their gripes, on SCC, he/she dont need your "do your job, this is what you get paid for" bullshit! Neglect your family now, you will regret it later. You give up your contractual rights now, you will regret it later. The powers that be created this mess, not the police officers. So police officers earned their comp time, to be used by said officer when needed, not when alfonza deems it ok. Your fraternal order of police better jump all over this and quick.
Imall on board for July 5 no activity... Just going to have to get those dam 4500 units to jot do shit
OFF TOPIC, Met a guy family works for Rahminator here is he deal, 53 free health insurance, uniform allowance goes to commissary with a 600 year allowance. Loss of 4 personal days. No holiday for holiday if not working. 12 sick days a year you can bank them 10years and under start with bank of 30 10-15 35, 15-20 40, only sell what you have earned moving forward. change multiplyer to 12 % for pension, MIKE S.... time o quit
Off topic but cannot wait till tomorrow a.m. for new posts. Walking home from dinner tonight. Walked from Daily Grill to home at chgo and mich. OMG, HOLY EFFING CRAP! Where do these ghetto animals come from and WHAT THE EFF ARE THEY DOING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. Listen, I'm aware of this problem but I don't ever leave home on weekends. Tonight was an exception. If anyone thinks this is a perception problem, then that person needs to go stand in front of Water Tower on a Saturday night. And if Rahm effing Raccoon does not GIVE YOU OFFICERS A RAISE, then someone please order him a size "child" police uniform and let him go stand outside in 90 degree heat with 78% humidity with the kevlar and then have him tell you guys you don't need a raise. I am SPEECHLESS over the slime and sludge and crap that has crawled into my neighborhood for no reason other than to rob, hurt and ruin others. For the love of God already, what the eff? And those were just the "males". What about the ho "females" dressed in their effing bright pink underwear and black underpants. WHERE ARE THE EFFING PARENTS? I can't live here anymore. God bless all you officers. If I wasn't already in my nightgown, I'd run to Walgreens, wait in line an hour while Shakena and Lamar buy chips with their debit food stamp card, and haul you all bottles of water and soda. I think I'm going to do that tomorrow night so when I start handing them out, you'll know where it's coming from. Jesus H Christ (and I do NOT use that term ever) these animals belong back in their own hoods. If we attacked their hoods, they'd open fire on us. But God forbid we do that to these ghetto rats. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whats this policy of no elective time off during the summer? We in 011 have not heard of this policy yet.
Oh wait a minute. Only elective time off for the 2nd watch Lieutenant is allowed.
All time off for blue shirts is hereby "DENIED"!
per 2nd watch lt.
Only I am allowed elective time off to spend with my family on the weekend!
was just reading channel 5 story online about suspect capture of 7-year old. below that story I was pretty shocked to see this link with 40 images of gang hand and graffiti symbols:
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-gang-signs-colors-hand-gestures.html
Al was putting on a show and pontificating. That's what he does best. He's simply the local guy running interference for the outsiders.
Gene Williams is a decent boss, good copper, and a gentleman - he most certainly did not deserve the couple of swipes Wysinger took at him.
Inappropriate, cheap shots come from little people in big jobs.
I agree. I worked for both of them. Enjoyed working for them. The difference in their career paths is/was that Al was always a Cline favorite. Gene, however, had the misfortune of getting on Cline's bad side when Cline was Commander, Gene a Lt, and Al a Sgt in Narcotics. Seemingly overnight, Al, with Cline's backing, leapfrogged Gene, and has never looked back. But don't feel too sorry for Gene. Because several po's can tell you how he fucked them over. It really is sad what becomes of the once working police as they rise through the ranks. Sad indeed.
Kind of off topic but....we've dumped everything we have into 007 and 011 and it hasn't made a bit of difference. Can we pull the plug now?
I was sitting at my favorite watering hole which had a DJ last night. I was in good company with several other Blue Shirts and a Sgt. So I went up to the DJ and asked him to dedicate a song to all our CPD bosses from Lt thru gmac. He laughed when I gave him the name of the song.
Most of us will show our age if you know this song. Needless to say I had everyone in the bar and outdoor patio laughing their ass off and singing along.
The song is none other than the
I95 song.
Google it and you will see it can be dedicated to anyone of our bosses.
It can be played at thier retirement party. If anyone shows up for it.
I would like to see the stats on the above posted comment. It sure seems as if more people are being shot today then they were in the 90's. It seemed when a person was shot in the 90's they usually died. Today it seems many more people get shot, but the doctors are keeping more alive.
Notice more wheelchairs in the District ? Used to be, everybody had one. Just one. Now there's at least a dozen per District ...
Modern medicine and tax dollars go a long way...
ABCD (ret)
Bklyn North said...
"Degrading a subordinate in front of others never accomplishes anything. I understand that's the way they do it in New York, but this isn't New York..."
"Making disparaging remarks agaimst a fellow police officer is also against General Orders! Remember this at the next Comfuck Meeting & you can always get a CR against the drunk womenizer asshole from NY & the splib from 015th District!
A retired guy
aw = to many bites from the merit apple tree
ew = class act boss but still a few bites from the merit apple tree
I love it when a plan comes together and somebody uses the money for soemthing wortwhile. Want a good read SCC well then read this, or better yet make it a topic in your blog.
http://www.suntimes.com/13484760-761/group-turns-tables-on-chicago-gun-turn-in-uses-money-for-gun-camp.html
"Al-Hole Weis-Inger"
I love that Guy!!!!
011/3rd Fed-Up-Sgt. said.
which sorry fuck are you? tricky or crazy? yeah you know me, Im the guy on days that's been there before..and I know where you guys get your "muscles" from..umm trying to get a tact team and calling out walsh? or maybe following a female PO you love sick bastard or putting yourself in for a life saving (for the burning couch)or tearing down a FOP poster.. LMAO..want to talk some time in the parking lot? or you still scared??..im not some new PO that is scared of your white shirt..guess who..Lost In Fillmore since 96..
Everybody should put a yellow slip in Police Mail to the 1st Deputy asking for time due. The name of the officer requesting
"AL-Hole Weis-Inger"
Send him about 1,000 of those...
said...
comparing todays homicide numbers with past numbers is BS. compare people shot. That's a more accurate stat.
But I'm just a dick...what do I know?
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AND lets not forget everyone has a cell phone now which gets the ambulance there much faster when minutes count. very few had one in the early-mid 90's
Anonymous said...
I've reached my breaking point. Nobody can continue at this pace. I just want to lay down and not wake up.
6/30/2012 05:58:00 PM
You wouldn't be here if you were not exceptionally strong. Please talk to someone. Do not give up on yourself. You matter much more than the job.
Tell me, your a boss like Wysinger and your short-handed with police officers, crime is spiking, and you need to give solutions to the problem.......well sure EVERYONE knows we need to hire more police officers BUT......say that is NOT an option right now...now what? ..........Go ahead and come up with a solution. Thought so. The only solution left is to DENY time due. When I was PO i actually "enjoyed" coming to work. These useless excuses for police officers I supervise today are a sad joke. You selfish officers just care about yourselves. You would rather have someone working 99 on a beat car answering jobs so you could be at home doing the same thing you do when your at work......"NOTHING"!!! So quit your crying all you crybabies. Do your job and quit bitching for HAVING to do ur job.....that's what u get paid for anyway. Boo f*cking hoo.......and if it's your child's birthday then PLAN it on ur RDO!
6/30/2012 07:09:00 AM
Please please please tell me that this post was a joke. If it wasn't, then you have to be one of the biggest jagoff, fucktard, company man morons ever.
Anonymous said...
How in the world did politics in Chicago take over the police department?
Seriously? Where have you been the last 150 years?
I've reached my breaking point. Nobody can continue at this pace. I just want to lay down and not wake up.
6/30/2012 05:58:00 PM
Buddy, it's just a job...nothing more. Talk to someone, EAP, peer support, chaplain, whoever... It can get better but you have to reach out.
011/3rd Fed-Up-Sgt. said...
Tell me, your a boss like Wysinger and your short-handed with police officers, crime is spiking, and you need to give solutions to the problem.......well sure EVERYONE knows we need to hire more police officers BUT......say that is NOT an option right now...now what? ..........Go ahead and come up with a solution. Thought so. The only solution left is to DENY time due. When I was PO i actually "enjoyed" coming to work. These useless excuses for police officers I supervise today are a sad joke. You selfish officers just care about yourselves. You would rather have someone working 99 on a beat car answering jobs so you could be at home doing the same thing you do when your at work......"NOTHING"!!! So quit your crying all you crybabies. Do your job and quit bitching for HAVING to do ur job.....that's what u get paid for anyway. Boo f*cking hoo.......and if it's your child's birthday then PLAN it on ur RDO!
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Well, FUC***D-UP-SGT, who would not cut it as a 7/11 clerk, but still has 3 stripes, you have the aptitude of an eleven-year old. How about treating the blue shirts as men and women? That is correct, with respect, officers who work in busy districts get bounced all over the place—different start times and different partners. Also, we are not so dumb so as not to notice the favoritism in the districts—favorable assignments always go to the same people. And if the officer is adaptable, then the district people are just going to take advantage of him or her. And, yes, we are aware of how this job rewards incompetence. Well, F***CKED-UP-SGT, the game is a lot broader and more complicated than just screaming “do your job!” But enjoy your 3 stripes, on third watch, in 11, because that is all you will ever be.
I believe the First Deputy is a good person. I have never witnessed him treating any blue shirts badly. He has always been respectful and easily approachable so this stuff seemed weird. I got the impression that he has high expectations, that's not a bad thing. Maybe he used the wrong words because he was upset. It's not cool to call anyone names so knock it off with the swear words.
6/30/2012 06:19:00 PM
what the fuck are you, just hitting puberty?
I've reached my breaking point. Nobody can continue at this pace. I just want to lay down and not wake up.
6/30/2012 05:58:00 PM
can't help you, buddy, you're not on my list.
Chalkie
Well Sarge, not only are you an idiot, but your a big part of the problem! You want a solution, well here it is....
Band together as a team and support your troops. Provide officers with as much support and flexibility as needed to balance the extra work needed on the street and time for themselves and their families. Stop with stupid "boxes", "foot posts", "dumb uniform regulations 80/20's, crown caps", etc.. etc..", Open up bidding to districts, have promotional classes even if its only friggin 10!, Have a promotional test or two so someone with almost 10 years on the job has their FIRST opportunity to even take a friggin test. Treat officers with respect, dignity and fairness as that is all anyone really ever asks for and wants. Minus the promotions, none of these things cost a dime and should have been in place all along. This simple solution would make officers actually want to work, work harder than ever and feel obligated to their supervisors to produce for them. A happy workforce = great production. A pissed on work force = you get what you give.......SHIT!
6/30/2012 05:40:00 PM
Yes, a sergeant definitely can do away with 'the box' and the uniform requirements, and can change the bidding procedures and administer promotional tests. That is definitely within a sergeant's control. (You're not just dreaming; you're hallucinating.)
comparing todays homicide numbers with past numbers is BS. compare people shot. That's a more accurate stat.
But I'm just a dick...what do I know?
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AND lets not forget everyone has a cell phone now which gets the ambulance there much faster when minutes count. very few had one in the early-mid 90's
6/30/2012 11:55:00 PM
Good point.
does anyone have the integrity and character, to do...what needs to be done?
6/30/2012 05:01:00 PM
you talkin' ta me?
Chalkie
Nice try about Al Wysinger being the Detective Division Chief, he was never the D unit chief and I don't think that he EVER worked in the D unit. He was the Commander of 015 in 08.
6/30/2012 04:55:00 PM
Deputy Chief Detective Division Field Group A during Weis' tenure. He was clouted to 1st Deputy from that clout job.
We could probably get additional officers hired if Sgts and Lts. working in the field would stop handling calls for service. Ladies and gentlemen you are SUPERVISORS stop doing our jobs, you are partially to blame. When the calls get stacked up and no one answers them people will start bitching, and that will get results. You did take and pass a test to become a boss dodn't you?
6/30/2012 04:22:00 PM
Not only did I take it and pass more than just the first part, but I read the orders, too.
When there aren't any other cars available to take jobs, sergeants are REQUIRED to take radio assignments.
Anonymous said...
WTF-- they are both Merit all the way. Gene Williams was one of " Beavers" guys -- take that to the bank. And everyone knows Al is the product of west side revruns.
So if one was an ok person or not has no bearing on the facts-- both merit with clout. One clout is now heavier than the others - thats all folks.
6/30/2012 07:21:00 PM
WRONG!!! Al's rise to stardom is STRICTLY PHIL CLINE...NO REV-RUNS!
The next poster came close to the truth though... "The difference in their career paths is/was that Al was always a Cline favorite. Gene, however, had the misfortune of getting on Cline's bad side when Cline was Commander, Gene a Lt, and Al a Sgt in Narcotics. Seemingly overnight, Al, with Cline's backing, leapfrogged Gene, and has never looked back. But don't feel too sorry for Gene. Because several po's can tell you how he fucked them over."
Truth be told, Cline was circumventing his own Boss (Eddie King)who was Gene's clout. He wanted control of the funds in OCD and King forbid it... When he made Superintendent... the rest is history!!!
If there are fewer Officers currently employed why on Earth do we need more Supervisors?
Just wondering....
To: I've reached my breaking point. Nobody can continue at this pace. I just want to lay down and not wake up.
6/30/2012 05:58:00 PM;
You're not alone in this fight, you just need to find someone to reach out to, and maybe a hobby, they help to take your mind off of things. talk to someone, anyone, even if it's just another copper.
If you've made it this far, you can go the distance, but sometimes we all need a little help carrying the weight. It's ok to need help, and regardless of what anyone else says, we've all had somebody there to help whether we thought that we needed them or not...
Off topic but cannot wait till tomorrow a.m. for new posts. Walking home from dinner tonight. Walked from Daily Grill to home at chgo and mich. OMG, HOLY EFFING CRAP! Where do these ghetto animals come from and WHAT THE EFF ARE THEY DOING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. Listen, I'm aware of this problem but I don't ever leave home on weekends. Tonight was an exception. If anyone thinks this is a perception problem, then that person needs to go stand in front of Water Tower on a Saturday night. And if Rahm effing Raccoon does not GIVE YOU OFFICERS A RAISE, then someone please order him a size "child" police uniform and let him go stand outside in 90 degree heat with 78% humidity with the kevlar and then have him tell you guys you don't need a raise. I am SPEECHLESS over the slime and sludge and crap that has crawled into my neighborhood for no reason other than to rob, hurt and ruin others. For the love of God already, what the eff? And those were just the "males". What about the ho "females" dressed in their effing bright pink underwear and black underpants. WHERE ARE THE EFFING PARENTS? I can't live here anymore. God bless all you officers. If I wasn't already in my nightgown, I'd run to Walgreens, wait in line an hour while Shakena and Lamar buy chips with their debit food stamp card, and haul you all bottles of water and soda. I think I'm going to do that tomorrow night so when I start handing them out, you'll know where it's coming from. Jesus H Christ (and I do NOT use that term ever) these animals belong back in their own hoods. If we attacked their hoods, they'd open fire on us. But God forbid we do that to these ghetto rats. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
6/30/2012 09:04:00 PM
Awww...you poor thing!! Welcome to reality...psst, it's happening all over the city and frankly, I'm tired of these bastards myself. It's gives us "working class" people in the "hood" a break. Most of us do work or have retired ya know its just those pockets here & there of fools that are wreaking havoc....but screw the "hood" right? So f-ck it... everyone should get a taste since most say the hell with the people in the "hood".
I was wondering about this. I know you want the "time due," but if it is denied, can you convert it to OT?,
Probably not because the department will just remind you that you have the option to exchange your tour of duty with another copper.
Do your job and quit bitching for HAVING to do ur job.....that's what u get paid for anyway. Boo f*cking hoo.......and if it's your child's birthday then PLAN it on ur RDO!
Hey SARG.....do you ever consider that it might be YOU that is the problem? You were a blue shirt once and I'm sure you gave your supervisor headaches from time to time.
But maybe you are the type that is scared of his own shadow. Come to work everyday wondering if the BOSS is going to yell at you for something a P.O. on your log did the night before? Or maybe 1 or 2 P.O.'s went over your head and asked the XO for time and it was granted?
If there are fewer Officers currently employed why on Earth do we need more Supervisors?
Just wondering....
7/01/2012 03:35:00 AM
Supervisors are older (think about it...yeah you got it) and they are retiring at a faster rate.
Whoever made up Al-hole, classic!
Anonymous said...
I believe the First Deputy is a good person. I have never witnessed him treating any blue shirts badly. He has always been respectful and easily approachable so this stuff seemed weird. I got the impression that he has high expectations, that's not a bad thing. Maybe he used the wrong words because he was upset. It's not cool to call anyone names so knock it off with the swear words.
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Your right Al, would you have a hot cocoa with me?
We got a bunch of slips kicked back to everybody yesterday. What the fuck. One coppers daughters birthday. Another copper had plans on taking his two sons to a ballgame. One copper is standing up in a wedding. FUCK WYSINGER - FUCK RAHM - FUCK McCARTHY. We are people. We are human. We have familys. We need an escape. We need rest. We need a break. No matter what the reason, refusing to hire the couple thousand police officers this department is short and shitting on your current staff by refusing time off is really low and plain out digusting if you ask me.
Less shootings = Roe v. Wade
Just once I would like to see a superintendant come strictly from patrol. You know, worked as a PO, Sgt and Lt (and even capt if he comes from that rank)in patrol only. No specialized units; no paper pusher; no downtown waterboy. Just someone who is intimately familiar with patrol.
Anonymous said...
If there are fewer Officers currently employed why on Earth do we need more Supervisors?
Just wondering....
To boost morale
Anonymous said...
The only crime number you can not hide is an Homicide that why crime is down and murders are up, does the media not get it.
Accidental deaths, apparent suicides, crashes, all can serve that purpose
Anonymous said...
Well Sarge, not only are you an idiot, but your a big part of the problem! You want a solution, well here it is....
Band together as a team and support your troops. Provide officers with as much support and flexibility as needed to balance the extra work needed on the street and time for themselves and their families. Stop with stupid "boxes", "foot posts", "dumb uniform regulations 80/20's, crown caps", etc.. etc..", Open up bidding to districts, have promotional classes even if its only friggin 10!, Have a promotional test or two so someone with almost 10 years on the job has their FIRST opportunity to even take a friggin test. Treat officers with respect, dignity and fairness as that is all anyone really ever asks for and wants. Minus the promotions, none of these things cost a dime and should have been in place all along. This simple solution would make officers actually want to work, work harder than ever and feel obligated to their supervisors to produce for them. A happy workforce = great production. A pissed on work force = you get what you give.......SHIT!
6/30/2012 05:40:00 PM
Yes, a sergeant definitely can do away with 'the box' and the uniform requirements, and can change the bidding procedures and administer promotional tests. That is definitely within a sergeant's control. (You're not just dreaming; you're hallucinating.)
7/01/2012 01:18:00 AM
Obviously your a merit hack supervisor or at least a wanna-be. The dumb sgt's post was referring to what is the Sup and 1st deputy supposed to do, as in what other choices do they have (other than screwing with every P.O. on the job, lying and making everyone's lives miserable), not what is a Sgt. supposed to do.
If there are fewer Officers currently employed why on Earth do we need more Supervisors?
Just wondering....
7/01/2012 03:35:00 AM
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Because supervisors are retiring at a greater rate than po's.
Anonymous said...
Nice try about Al Wysinger being the Detective Division Chief, he was never the D unit chief and I don't think that he EVER worked in the D unit. He was the Commander of 015 in 08.
6/30/2012 04:55:00 PM
Prior to his well deserved promotion to 1st Deputy, Al-Hole, was a Deputy Chief in the Detective Division with Dean the Dream
Dear 011 sergeant, are you a merit hack? Because you sure didn't pass an exam not knowing the difference between "your" (possessive) and "you're" (contraction of the words you and are). I don't usually care about grammatical mistakes but when you come up with the douchey crap you just spouted and sound like a 6th grade drop out when typing it makes you look even more of an asshat.
"If there are fewer Officers..."
Use your head asshat. Just like we are short coppers we are short Sergeants. So they shouldn't promote anyone because you were too stupid to pass a test? You sir are a dumbass! Fuck Off! The people getting promoted off the list now are the ones that actually passed the test legit. Also the more people promoted off the list the quicker a new test will be offered. I know it probably won't help you because you are too simple to pull your head out of your ass to study, but there are a lot of guys and gals that deserve a shot at a promotional exam.
"Truth be told, Cline was circumventing his own Boss (Eddie King)who was Gene's clout. He wanted control of the funds in OCD and King forbid it... When he made Superintendent... the rest is history!!!"
Oh! So that's what Cline's dislike of Gene was about? OK. I was in Narcotics during that period. And it was no secret that Cline and Gene weren't exactly golfing buddies. All I'll say about King ( God Rest His Soul) is that it was widely known, he wasn't one to be fucked with. No matter who your clout was.
Anonymous said...
Tell me, your a boss like Wysinger and your short-handed with police officers, crime is spiking, and you need to give solutions to the problem.......well sure EVERYONE knows we need to hire more police officers BUT......say that is NOT an option right now...now what? ..........Go ahead and come up with a solution. Thought so. The only solution left is to DENY time due. When I was PO i actually "enjoyed" coming to work. These useless excuses for police officers I supervise today are a sad joke. You selfish officers just care about yourselves. You would rather have someone working 99 on a beat car answering jobs so you could be at home doing the same thing you do when your at work......"NOTHING"!!! So quit your crying all you crybabies. Do your job and quit bitching for HAVING to do ur job.....that's what u get paid for anyway. Boo f*cking hoo.......and if it's your child's birthday then PLAN it on ur RDO!
6/30/2012 07:09:00 AM
Hey Boss, great post!
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AND lets not forget everyone has a cell phone now which gets the ambulance there much faster when minutes count. very few had one in the early-mid 90's
6/30/2012 11:55:00 PM
Good point.
7/01/2012 01:19:00 AM
Are you fucking nuts or what? Cell phones are now the reason fewer are dying? Bullshit. Same with the alleged ER "advances" that save so many more than back in the primitive 90's. More bullshit.
Back in 1950 soldiers were being saved who would have died because they were transported to a MASH Unit within the golden hour. the hour after being wounded.
What do you think doctors and nurses did in the 50's, 60's, 70's and so on? Stand there are shake their heads? The principles were the same as now, clear the airway, make sure the patient is breathing and control the bleeding and ensure circulation, plug the leaks.
People somehow have the idea that the 90's and earlier were the dark ages. Not so. /things have improved now but not to the degree that young pups on this blog think. Now if you look back at WWI, Civil War etc, things were pretty rough then.
Remember the show ER? Started in 1994, the doctors weren't witch doctors back then, they had trauma centers etc.
As the detective posted, look at how many people are trying to kill each other with a gun or a knife. That is the true measure but what would a homicide dick know.
Anonymous said...
Tell me, your a boss like Wysinger and your short-handed with police officers, crime is spiking, and you need to give solutions to the problem.......well sure EVERYONE knows we need to hire more police officers BUT......say that is NOT an option right now...now what? ..........Go ahead and come up with a solution. Thought so. The only solution left is to DENY time due. When I was PO i actually "enjoyed" coming to work. These useless excuses for police officers I supervise today are a sad joke. You selfish officers just care about yourselves. You would rather have someone working 99 on a beat car answering jobs so you could be at home doing the same thing you do when your at work......"NOTHING"!!! So quit your crying all you crybabies. Do your job and quit bitching for HAVING to do ur job.....that's what u get paid for anyway. Boo f*cking hoo.......and if it's your child's birthday then PLAN it on ur RDO!
6/30/2012 07:09:00 AM
I agree that time due restriction is the only choice they have. They are not trying to stick it top us. Some who have a little more time on the job remember the many summers where time was restricted. This isn't a new thing, just more restrictive because we are short.
"The result is the widespread adoption of guidelines drafted by the Brain Trauma Foundation in 1995 for the treatment of severe brain injury. As a result, survival has improved among patients who've suffered a blunt or penetrating brain injury severe enough to have induced coma. In 1980, the overall death rate for such patients was 55 percent, Ghajar says; by 2010, it was just 20 percent."
More at
http://herald-review.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/article_c4f97e28-2b06-11e0-8320-001cc4c002e0.html
A lot more online.
Again... I'm just a dick. What do I know?
"A paradox of war is that the death and destruction resulting from combat also produces positive changes in the U.S. health care system and increases its ability to save lives. Medical innovations, including improved methods of treatment and new technologies, have emerged from war and extended into civilian medical use. In addition, war injuries have brought new traumas and conditions to the attention of civilian physicians."
Read more: The Effects of War on American Health Care
Dear Scc
If we are short then they should just institute ot within the districts. Let the officers sign up for ot in their own district. The watch secretary's have the projections for the next couple of weeks, it can be done. Oops, soory, no more secretarys, I mean the Watch Commander, oops, no more watch commanders, I mean the DSS, I have been on furlo, are we still calling it the DSS?
What will happen if you put in a PAR form taking the day you want off w/o pay?
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