And ANOTHER Police Shooting?
The increase of the increase (or something) continues:
Good job by the officers, too.
Fraternal Order of Police Spokesman Pat Camden said an Area South Gang Team responded to a 911 call that gave a "detailed description" of someone standing on the corner of 77th Street and Wolcott Avenue holding a gun.
A police department source said the teen was among a group of people standing near the corner of 77th Street and Wolcott Avenue when officers approached and the teen took off running.
“Gangs South responded and there’s about 10 people on the corner, there’s a makeshift memorial there for someone who got shot god knows when, and they see a guy matching the description perfectly of the 911 call," Camden said.
Good job by the officers, too.
Labels: shooting
posted by SCC at 12:37 AM
56 Comments:
That Camdem is worth his weight in oranges. Easily the best money FOP has spent in years.
Stay tuned all you Shields naysayers. Plenty more in the pipeline. Remember - a poker player never shows his hand. Rip on the prez all you want, but I tell you this is the best we've had in decades. And that's as far as I can tip my hand right now.
The gang unit is out here putting in some serious work. No I don't work with them, just giving props where they are due.
Everyone be safe out there. These Shitbirds are ruthless!!!!
"That Camdem is worth his weight in oranges. Easily the best money FOP has spent in years"
Ok but here is my question- Why can't BOSSES say the exact same things? What does Camden have exactly that these BOSSES lack? He simply speaks the plain truth nothing more. What's so goddamned hard about that for them to do it AND DO IT CONSISTENTLY EVERY TIME these situations arise. WTF?! seriously
I disagree. The way ipra has been run lateley on police shootings they give no comment at all. People either like us or dont at this point. We dont need a six figure a year spokesperson.
On Camden and oranges -- worth his weight in many ways, but maybe not in the best way for the public. His little releases get out ahead of what the investigators want released. They seem intended to represent the officer in the best possible light, but from Camden's history, we know (Weems) it doesn't always turn out to be the case. The department doesn't have a shadow spokesman in most investigations and does need one in officer-involved shootings. The information pipeline to FOP ought to be shut down, and there should be some way of imposing discipline on causing this information to be released. If it's not well-enough addressed in the contract, the contract ought to be changed: Information gets shared as a part of the board of rights process and for no other purpose.
Yeah, Camden, "he was trying to defeat the arrest," and then the CTA surveillance video comes out and shows Weems putting the weapon to the suspect's head and executing him. That was so great for everyone's credibility. Thanks, Pat. We remember.
Check out this movie, "District B13". Excellent, except for the end where the bad guys stop the plan to clean up the hood.
Good Job President Camden!
police officers risk their lives and perform heroic acts on a daily basis in this city--- imagine what would happen if the police took a week off of work in this city--- we can only dream of doing what the ctu did because we cannot strike--- oh well, looks like another retro check in 2-3 years as usual....
Did you see this one about the prosecutor that got stabbed in Lincoln Park?
http://www.wgntv.com/news/local/breaking/chi-prosecutor-tried-to-fight-off-attack-by-teens-harassing-pair-in-lincoln-park-20120915,0,3955961.story
Pat was also at the cps rally yesterday, on the stage with fop shirt on telling the crowd "We support the cps teachers," Lets hope they support US, in the battle with the dictator!
This started with "every kid gets a trophy". Everybody deserves what you have no matter if they work for it or deserve it.
This agenda was furthered by greedy lawyers that try anything, legal or not, to get their clients off or win big settlements for questionable (nonsense) damages. There are no penalties for lawyers that suborn perjury, present false evidence and push trials when they know their clients are guilty. Hey guess what. That's not the way it is supposed to work.
When is the last time you saw a lawyer prosecuted, fined or imprisoned? NEVER! What, we have no crocked lawyers out there? These lawyers become politicians and judges. There you have the "Chicago way". Chicago is a cancer in this Country.
Notice the communist heathen reporters and editors didn't capitalize "God." Not respect, even for the Almighty.
Stay tuned all you Shields naysayers. Plenty more in the pipeline. Remember - a poker player never shows his hand. Rip on the prez all you want, but I tell you this is the best we've had in decades. And that's as far as I can tip my hand right now.
9/16/2012 01:03:00 AM
Shut up, Mikey. Just get some post it notes so you don't forget those notifications you're supposed to send out on time on our behalf.
The difference: Camden is an old A#1 SOG guy. Most bosses are old 1121 S. State and 35th st. guys N Gals.
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Stay tuned all you Shields naysayers. Plenty more in the pipeline. Remember - a poker player never shows his hand. Rip on the prez all you want, but I tell you this is the best we've had in decades. And that's as far as I can tip my hand right now.
camdem is great, but shields is and always will be a disaster...so take it easy asslicker.
You mean the guy wasn't wearing the ghetto uniform of "white t-shirt and jeans" and they just chased the rabbit when he took off?
Camden's got plenty of experience as police spokesman. I'm curious as to why the FOP needs a spokesman and the Supernintendo can't give the same story? This isn't a political issue so he should have Rahm's blessing to state the facts to the press and be done with it. These cops were doing their job and as their boss he should be speaking for them.
Stay tuned all you Shields naysayers. Plenty more in the pipeline. Remember - a poker player never shows his hand. Rip on the prez all you want, but I tell you this is the best we've had in decades. And that's as far as I can tip my hand right now...
Yea OK.... And I am sure our new contract will reflect just that right?
Ok but here is my question- Why can't BOSSES say the exact same things? What does Camden have exactly that these BOSSES lack? He simply speaks the plain truth nothing more. What's so goddamned hard about that for them to do it AND DO IT CONSISTENTLY EVERY TIME these situations arise. WTF?! seriously
9/16/2012 02:09:00 AM
The bosses can't, and won't, step up for us because the Department won't let them. They don't represent us; they represent the CITY's interests.
The need for someone like Camden, who knows how to get our side of things out to the media, is huge. And, it's worth paying him to do it.
"Anyone know where that guy tried to blow up the car. Was is in 018 or in 019. Says by a busy bar area so i'm thinking rush and division, or the clark and addison area. That is some scary shit. Great job by homeland security.
9/15/2012 10:07:00 PM""
My money is on House of Blues.
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"That Camdem is worth his weight in oranges. Easily the best money FOP has spent in years"
Ok but here is my question- Why can't BOSSES say the exact same things? What does Camden have exactly that these BOSSES lack? He simply speaks the plain truth nothing more. What's so goddamned hard about that for them to do it AND DO IT CONSISTENTLY EVERY TIME these situations arise. WTF?! seriously
If you have to ask, you need more time on the job.
You can probably find the youtube video of the thug parading his gun around. These idiots are extremely violent but thank god extremely stupid. Buy guns and ammo. The day is coming when this shit WILL spill over into civilization.
Anonymous said...
I disagree. The way ipra has been run lateley on police shootings they give no comment at all. People either like us or dont at this point. We dont need a six figure a year spokesperson.
9/16/2012 04:20:00 AM
He doesn't make six figures you moron. And if you can't see the value in having our side heard in the media then your a tool. Get back in the wagon and answer your transport job goof! Pat Camden for FOP President bitches!!!
Shot bad guy in the booty.. Nice work office.. Glad your safe...
Gloves
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/intoxicated-man-struck-by-a-car-after-police-drop-him-off-cops-face-charges/
That Camdem is worth his weight in oranges. Easily the best money FOP has spent in years.
So the money the FOP spent suing former VP s, lawyers and secretaries, checks to law firms for more than $300,000 ... that wasn't the "Best" money? $500 hotel rooms for Board Members at DC memorial, when families are doubling and tripling in $200 rooms ... that wasn't the "Best" money? Camden money is the easiest to explain . . . not the "Best"!
To 9/16/2012 05:32:00 AM
Um, moron, Camden was working for somebody else at that time....remember? The City of Chicago has different aims than the FOP.
Anonymous said...
Did you see this one about the prosecutor that got stabbed in Lincoln Park?
http://www.wgntv.com/news/local/breaking/chi-prosecutor-tried-to-fight-off-attack-by-teens-harassing-pair-in-lincoln-park-20120915,0,3955961.story
9/16/2012 08:46:00 AM
These pieces of trash are all over Lincoln Park now just looking for an excuse to attack someone. I've seen the attitude four times up close this summer, three times directed towards me but I pretended to not notice that I was in their cross hairs and somehow escaped without incident/injury, don't ask me how. and all I did was look at them to assess if they were gang bangers. it makes your blood run cold to walk right past them not knowing if you're going to get a knife stuck in your side like this prosecutor did. I have zero respect for a mayor that lets this continue to happen to citizens here by not providing more Chicago Police protection. I feel like we citizens have been thrown to the wolves by him. I'll not vote for him next election, and I will make sure as many people as possible hear from me why not.
OT: Saw the teachers contract details, 10% over four years, Chicago mayor will stick with a familiar story about the union leaving 16% on the table.
More/Same BS from City Hall.
CPS Teachers Keep the Step Raises that City Colleges Surrendered (?) But still have a 20% longer work day!
What can happen to us?
9/16/2012 04:10:00 PM
Um, moron, it doesn't make a difference that he was working for the city at the time. His credibility is tarnished for all time no matter who he speaks for now, and him speaking for cops makes it even worse because his comments are from the union perspective. So every little story that appears in the paper with all the pro-cop version of the events, coming from him, immediately raises doubt. 99% of these are righteous shootings but when you trot Pat out there, you send the wrong signal.
Moron.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/paulmason/2010/10/gary_indiana_unbroken_spirit_a.html
Dis you know Obama gave the city of Gary, IN $266,000,000 in stimulus ?
How much did Chicago get and where did it go??????
Feds???? Anyone????
Maybe someone in the news media should revisit the travesty of the Cozzi Incident and the increase in mayhem.. For me and a large percentage of my coworkers, THAT and the asshole in the White House and Atty General signaled the end of aggressive police work. It was obvious Law Enforcement had a bullseye on its back.
camden has big balls
the bosses have stars with balls
rahm speaks for the bosses on cpd
Off topic but when are we, AND OUR UNION going to start really supporting the teachers strike, they need a big boost, and if we come out strong for them, maybe fire and other city workers will join, WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
That Camdem is worth his weight in oranges. Easily the best money FOP has spent in years.
Stay tuned all you Shields naysayers. Plenty more in the pipeline. Remember - a poker player never shows his hand. Rip on the prez all you want, but I tell you this is the best we've had in decades. And that's as far as I can tip my hand right now.
9/16/2012 01:03:00 AM
You have to be kidding me! They all suck and so does he! You give him praise just because he hired Camden? So what! We never hear from our union they are non-existant. No one even knows what issues are on the table. Has the FOP and city even met yet? They tell us nothing. And since we can't strike what does it matter? We will just be giving it all to an arbitrator again anyway.
I DO like pat camden and the job he is doing... but it was good when jody had no comment to the media after shootings. It gave the media, shi*heads and the monday morning quarterbacks nowhere to go and it instantly became a "nonstory". just playin devils advocate here
CTU has shown the ballerina boy who the Boss is in Chicago .
OT:
Tribune story about CPD ticket writing in the loop.
Mention IPRA investigating tickets written for no parking anytime on vehicles that are not in metered spaces but there are no tow zone signs.
Anonymous said...
"That Camdem is worth his weight in oranges. Easily the best money FOP has spent in years"
Ok but here is my question- Why can't BOSSES say the exact same things? What does Camden have exactly that these BOSSES lack? He simply speaks the plain truth nothing more. What's so goddamned hard about that for them to do it AND DO IT CONSISTENTLY EVERY TIME these situations arise. WTF?! seriously
If you have to ask, you need more time on the job.
9/16/2012 11:13:00 AM
EXACTLY!!!! This is why no one trusts the brass. Sure they tell us in private how they got our backs, but we know that's just a lie to get us to produce. But when the shit hits the fan they run silent and we are left all alone as usual. It only takes a few years on the job to learn this.
Wow, the teacher's have not accepted their offer.
The strike continues!
Ah man, I just got in some white T-shirts and silk screening press to commemorate a job well done.
Chalkie xoxo
The support the FOP has given the CTU will haunt you.
Just remember, who else shared that stage with the teachers and Camden, the Socialists International.
Way to go with taking all your credibility and pouring it down the drain.
The members of the CPD, who support this crap, are no different than the other me-first crowd.
Ok but here is my question- Why can't BOSSES say the exact same things? What does Camden have exactly that these BOSSES lack? He simply speaks the plain truth nothing more. What's so goddamned hard about that for them to do it AND DO IT CONSISTENTLY EVERY TIME these situations arise. WTF?! seriously
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Simple...Camden doesn't have to worry about losing his job when he offends pookie's family and their storefont reverands.
Anonymous said...
I disagree. The way ipra has been run lateley on police shootings they give no comment at all. People either like us or dont at this point. We dont need a six figure a year spokesperson.
9/16/2012 04:20:00 AM
We most surely do because without him the only story that is told after a police shooting is that of the shithead and/or his/her family telling how the poleese tried to assinate poor little cuz.
He is worth his weight in golden press releases. He gets our officer's story out there quickly and has name recognition after doing the same for the City and CPD for many years.
I have no problem at all with our dues money paying Pat Camden.
Anonymous said...
On Camden and oranges -- worth his weight in many ways, but maybe not in the best way for the public. His little releases get out ahead of what the investigators want released. They seem intended to represent the officer in the best possible light, but from Camden's history, we know (Weems) it doesn't always turn out to be the case. The department doesn't have a shadow spokesman in most investigations and does need one in officer-involved shootings. The information pipeline to FOP ought to be shut down, and there should be some way of imposing discipline on causing this information to be released. If it's not well-enough addressed in the contract, the contract ought to be changed: Information gets shared as a part of the board of rights process and for no other purpose.
Yeah, Camden, "he was trying to defeat the arrest," and then the CTA surveillance video comes out and shows Weems putting the weapon to the suspect's head and executing him. That was so great for everyone's credibility. Thanks, Pat. We remember.
9/16/2012 05:32:00 AM
At the time of the shooting involving the late Officer Weems, Pat Camden was not employed by the FOP. He was spokesman for the Chicago police Department, on the City payroll. Shit happens.
Anonymous said...
Did you see this one about the prosecutor that got stabbed in Lincoln Park?
http://www.wgntv.com/news/local/breaking/chi-prosecutor-tried-to-fight-off-attack-by-teens-harassing-pair-in-lincoln-park-20120915,0,3955961.story
9/16/2012 08:46:00 AM
Perhaps the prosecutor was out cruising? Or maybe the story about going Coho fishing was legit. Not sure, I wasn't there. I was home in bed busy not getting stabbed. My need for sleep overwhelms any desire to snag a couple of wily North American Coho Salmon.
Anonymous said...
Maybe someone in the news media should revisit the travesty of the Cozzi Incident and the increase in mayhem.. For me and a large percentage of my coworkers, THAT and the asshole in the White House and Atty General signaled the end of aggressive police work. It was obvious Law Enforcement had a bullseye on its back.
9/16/2012 07:46:00 PM
The Cozzi incident involved an officer who got hands on with an individual handcuffed to a wheelchair. On video. It wasn't near as bad as it looked and the guy had some street justice coming.
The travesty was that Cozzi took a conviction at the state level, served out his punishment and then was prosecuted again for the same crime and went to federal prison. Punished and convicted twice for the same thing.
There will always be excuses not to do your job. Just pick one.
Anonymous said...
"That Camdem is worth his weight in oranges. Easily the best money FOP has spent in years"
Ok but here is my question- Why can't BOSSES say the exact same things? What does Camden have exactly that these BOSSES lack? He simply speaks the plain truth nothing more. What's so goddamned hard about that for them to do it AND DO IT CONSISTENTLY EVERY TIME these situations arise. WTF?! seriously
If you have to ask, you need more time on the job.
9/16/2012 11:13:00 AM
And how come I can't win Powerball and retire early? Huh? How come?
Anonymous said...
Off topic but when are we, AND OUR UNION going to start really supporting the teachers strike, they need a big boost, and if we come out strong for them, maybe fire and other city workers will join, WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!!!!!!
9/16/2012 08:22:00 PM
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I would be careful abot getting that train. That union has some very different goals.
“Gangs South responded..."
I like Pat, but "Gangs South" hasn't been around since the 90's.Thanks for the memories though....
I/F
Any FOP member that does not recognize the value of having Pat Camden speaking for us on-scene is in serious denial. Or is too cheap to recognize a situation where money is being well spent.
08:22 Our union is supporting the teachers. At their big rally, union leaders supported them and we had Pat Camden on the podium voicing the full support of the FOP He was shown on TV doing it
There will always be excuses not to do your job. Just pick one.
9/17/2012 01:45:00 AM
an excuse is a reason that is valid enough to excuse the chosen action.
Hope those contract talks work out for all of you, but the rest of us that don't have any such thing are trying our best to get out of this state and this city because we're not staying to pay the bill and have a miserable life including being attacked because of the obvious police shortage. Finally, because of the national news our employers are accommodating this with the available technology. No more 5% tax on wages and the ever increasing tax on everything else. All that will be left is the few who must stay the non-contributors and where is all this money needed going to come from? Federal and state are both already broke.
Anyone know where that guy tried to blow up the car. Was is in 018 or in 019. Says by a busy bar area so i'm thinking rush and division, or the clark and addison area. That is some scary shit. Great job by homeland security.
9/15/2012 10:07:00 PM""
My money is on House of Blues.
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It was cal's at Wells and Van Buren. Best dive bar in the Loop and the only holdover I can think of from the old Skid Row days. That place doesn't need blowing up -- it looks like it already hasbeen blown up!
Good guy.
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