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- A downtown alderman floated the idea Wednesday that businesses should hire off-duty cops to conduct extra patrols on North Michigan Avenue where visitors last summer had to deal with some mob attacks.
Those patrols would serve as a preventive measure and take pressure off a department driving to drive down homicides and shootings elsewhere in the city, said Ald. Brendan Reilly.
"Business owners have expressed an interest in participating in that type of program with the interest being that you'd have additional coverage in these hospitality, tourism areas so that you're supplementing your regular beat cops there," said Reilly, 42nd.
Where to start with this one? The city is already hiring back between 300 and 500 cops most nights to do "violence reduction." That by itself shows were shorthanded in the extreme. So now, instead of the city paying OT, they seem to be trying to saddle it on businesses that already pay some of the highest property taxes in Chicago. These costs are then passed onto consumers who are already paying extra sales taxes in the touristy parts of town for food, shows, hotels, etc. Then people start (or continue) seeing that it's cheaper to go out to the 'burbs, Wisconsin, Michigan. And safer. And the downward spiral accelerates.
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posted by SCC at 12:35 AM
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Until they let me work a day off in my district.. I could care less!
Good idea, if these pack of creatures are halted at the doors by a few off duties, they will have no where to go and steal.
Will we be in uniform?
Will the city assume liability for our actions?
I never thought I'd want to leave Chicago I was wrong
All excellent points....the city tosses the Fee for Service idea onto businesses and taxpayers...Buy Chicago Police and the City Saves Money to Spend Elsewhere.
And Off Topic...our Generous Mayor gifted the Former Chief of Chicago Public Schools a Fee for Non-Service to the tune of $300,000.00 and the new Chief gets $250,000.00 this year plus $30,000.00 for moving expenses from Detroit. Just like
that...$580,000.00 gone with a stroke of the pen.
Are we lucky or what???
So, with all of the fabulous Universities and Colleges in this city: Northwestern, U of C, DePaul, Columbia, U of I at Cgo, St. Xav's, Chicago State, Daley and others...they can't find a professor or administrator who could steer the Chicago Public School system into a worthy institution....then why are these schools even functioning if they can't produce a Chief for Chicago Public Schools.
Keep voting Democrat.
If it is done by the store-theatre owners, they should provide squad cars also. The current ot special employment opportinity is using all the "death traps" this Department can keep running. Let them hire their part time Police after applying for the spots like in the real world. Show your worth their $. Get more actual working Police out there rather then the "sleepers" eating up all the other ot initiatives. Some of us are tired of showing up to do a job and being assigned to work with a "do nothing". Im not saying be a hero, just not make those 8 hours miserably long..... I have 14 years on, use gel in my hair, and still like to do my job. Only 6 more to go (Future member of the KMA Club...). Sorry boys, like the hair gel....
Plus, who covers you if you get injured? What if you get a beef against you? Are they going to pay you to go to court if you do arrest someone? I think not. What happens if you get a pack of wild animals and need help. I'm gonna bet no radios either. And, how exactly, are you gonna sign up for this? Private businesses probably will mean who you know. I can see the CAPS people getting the nice gigs, taking care of themselves and their friends. Hey Brendan, grow a pair and tell the little ballerina to hire more police. Like the post says, they already pay their taxes...hefty taxes. Get rid of 30 alderthieves and pay for the new hires that way. How much do you want to bet the midget's budget passes 48-2 or better?
Sure, but the age old question is this: What if the officer gets hurt or killed on the street while working "off-duty". Will the City consider that an IOD?
Besides, it is the RESPONSIBILITY of the Chicago Police Dept. to protect ALL of it's citizens and visitors ALL the time. This is BULLSHIT!
The next thing will be to tell the North side residents to pay for their own "off-duty" police because there is a greater need for "on-duty" police in the ghetto.
We could replace these moron Aldermen COMPLETELY and no one would even notice!
The beginning of privatizing the police force.
Corporations couldn't care less about security in the hood. It's their business and their customers and after the customers spend their money they don't even matter to them anymore.
Privatize the PD so you can bust the unions. Bring in Blackwater security or something.
One huge consideration:
LIABILITY
Don't fall for it people. You be left holding the bag when things go sideways.
If the businesses want extra police then have them pay for a Special Employment program at OT rates. They pay the city, as the CTA and CHA do.
It has 'always' been cheaper to hire back off duty police rather than hire more police!
No extra medical expenses or contributions, no extra training, payroll procedures already in place, no extra pension contributions (ha ha lol), and they already have their own equipment!
If officers volunteer, then we are going to be in worse shape because the city will be less motivated to hire more officers.
And with the money they save by making buisness's provide their own police protection they could build another maggie park for another person who doesn't deserve it.
There is already an ordinance in place and its part of th FOP contract.
good luck, id hate to be the guy working one of these gigs when the ghetto "flash mob" shows up. The solution here is to hire the 1500-2000 cops we are short, are you listening public? dont believe the mayor and our supernintendo. maybe they will listen to your voices, they certainly dont listen to ours.
Hey! how about letting CeaseFire handle the tourism/business area. The businessmen could even hire the reverends and their parishoners to conduct anti-violence marches. For an extra 50 bucks you could even get Father Phleger to sacrifice a chicken or whatever religion he is practicing this week.
McNut was on Roe & Roeper talking this up......I hope he Michigan Avenue Association tells Rahm to pound sand.
They (and we) pay taxes and fees out the ass,,,,shouldn't have to pay extra for what they (and we as a whole) should get.
Also, imagine the Dept. running it. This should be organized by the F.O.P to ensure wages and conditions.
We're not gonna tax you just charge you for police service. I know I'm gonna be yelled at for saying this but could you imagine what would happen if you idiots could get together, and nobody worked any side job or special for one month. We publicize it let the city really go up for grabs say the month of November downtown with no extra cops. They would be fucked and nobody would have to go on medical or strike just no special for one month you think you can sacrifice that I doubt it
And let's not forget those extra sales taxes on restaurants downtown also nail downtown office workers - i.e., largely city residents - and downtown residents - i.e., city residents who already pay high sales taxes.
Sure, pound 'em til they move. It'll be somebody else's problem by then anyway.
And when a copper steps in shit while working these part time jobs he or she is on their own. The city won't cover them because they are under the employ of someone else, but the city will go the extra mile to ram it up the coppers ass. Your gambling with your job when you do this.
P.S. If coppers would stop working the VRI, then we would have Rahm by the short hairs. But I guess that extra money is more important then everyone standing together on principle. Keep shooting yourself and everyone else in the foot. You will understand when Tiny Dancer takes away your benefits, protections, and pension.
A local restaurant in the Norwood Park area had to close down because it cost him $80,000 a year in taxes and fees to operate in the City. Even with a decent weekend crowd, he couldn't come close to turning a profit after factoring in other costs.
That's just a shame.
No wonder small business is dead.
a scheme to try pass off cost to the taxpayer
as someone pointed out earlier
this is paid already by sky high taxes downtown business pays already
and besides when you have to work O/T already and then you get two days off (if your lucky) and you want to work some more?
might be nice for some but others have families and personal things to deal with
besides would the business pay the cop directly or would Tiny and the streetlightmarksman have their fingers in thier pockets?
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Move over old timers it's time for da real Police to handle Michigan Ave! Save you war stories for someone that cares. Where do I sign up?
Why would any PO consider this? These business folks want to keep the riff raff away but refuse to follow up and prosecute when an incident happens
it is not unheard of for police depts to have programs like this. sometimes they are more organized and official then other times.
I can remember back in the late 70s in Chicago when if a business wanted a cop he would just call and talk to the desk Sgt and someone would show up and the business owner would make the financial arrangements with the cop directly.
It is not like there are no cops working side gigs already.
Anonymous said...
If it is done by the store-theatre owners, they should provide squad cars also.
Wah wah wah...I get $60.00 an hour and wah wah wah they give me a hoopty to drive. Suck it up hair gel boy....walk to your post or take public transportation. If you have touble crossing the street I'll have your mommy help you.
If you are working a private job and do something that an off duty officer would do, then you are NOT covered by the pension for an IOD. If however, you are OFF DUTY and get injured doing a job that an on duty officer would do, then you would get an IOD... it depends on whom is paying you at the time.
I could be wrong, but that is the way it is handled downstate.
"All excellent points....the city tosses the Fee for Service idea onto businesses and taxpayers...Buy Chicago Police and the City Saves Money to Spend Elsewhere."
That should probably be "mis-spend elsewhere"...like Maggie Park.
What a joke this political system is.
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By Peter Nickeas and Liam Ford Tribune reporters
2:49 p.m. CDT, October 26, 2012
A man pistol-whipped the mother of his child before he threatened to force her to strip and left her in an unfamiliar South Side neighborhood early today, police said.
Jose Torreblanca, who turned 21 on Thursday, was angry because the woman had embarrassed him on his birthday at a club near 47th Street and Pulaski Road in the Archer Heights neighborhood.
“You embarrassed me, now I’m going to embarrass you,” Torreblanca told the woman, 18, according to a police report.
While in his Dodge Durango, he beat her in the face and forehead with his fist and a pistol, then ordered her out of the SUV in the South Shore neighborhood near 71st Street and Clyde Avenue and ordered her to strip, police said.
He told her she was “lucky you’re my baby’s mama or I’d kill you,” according to the police report. He drove off without making her strip, police said.
Torreblanca weighs 237 pounds and is 5-foot-8, police said. The woman weighs 100 pounds less and is 8 inches shorter, police said.
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Torreblanca, of the 2600 block of South Tripp Avenue, was charged with unlawful use of a weapon by a felon and domestic battery, as well as driving on a suspended license and possession of ammunition without valid firearm identification, said Chicago Police News Affairs Officer Michael Sullivan.
Court records show Torreblanca had been ordered released on a signature bond Wednesday after he was arrested for violation of probation in two criminal cases: aggravated unlawful use of a weapon in 2009 and a 2010 case in which he pleaded guilty to aggravated battery in a public place.
A condition of the signature bond was that Torreblanca report to an inpatient substance-abuse treatment center on Thursday, according to court records.
Torreblanca also was arrested in 2009 on a domestic battery charge but the case was dropped in 2011, according to court records.
Torreblanca was ordered held without bail after prosectuors alleged another violation of probation had been committed in this morning's incident, Conklin said. Torreblanca is scheduled to appear in Cook County Domestic Violence Court Branch 64 on Nov. 2.
read the whole thing...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cops-embarrassed-man-pistolwhips-drives-girlfriend-unfamiliar-area-20121026,0,6321607.story
what will Missy the ticket writer do?
What a surprise!
The clouted ones want their own private Praetorian Guard security detail like the aldermen have and like the private citizen ex mayor has.
Next? Concealed carry for the clouted class? Everyone else is on their own.
"A local restaurant in the Norwood Park area had to close down because it cost him $80,000 a year in taxes and fees to operate in the City...
No wonder small business is dead."
--10/26/2012 09:38:00 AM
Daley started the idea of "one contact point with the City to get all 134 licenses you'll need" and touted it as some kind of great progress. Emanuel is continuing this hyperefficient-sounding corporate-doubletalk BS.
...and they still don't have that "one contact point" working and they never will, any more than 311 requests on that bloated-code City web site work half the time.
Emanuel -- "All the City inspectors will come to your business on the same day now."
Well, give me s__t and tell me it's ice cream.
"Torreblanca had been ordered released on a signature bond Wednesday after he was arrested for violation of probation in two criminal cases: aggravated unlawful use of a weapon in 2009 and a 2010 case in which he pleaded guilty to aggravated battery in a public place.
"Torreblanca also was arrested in 2009 on a domestic battery charge but the case was dropped in 2011..."
--10/26/2012 04:34:00 PM
Why have police at all?
Funny how the city says we don't need more police but will pay us to work on RDO's.
Anonymous said...
We're not gonna tax you just charge you for police service. I know I'm gonna be yelled at for saying this but could you imagine what would happen if you idiots could get together, and nobody worked any side job or special for one month. We publicize it let the city really go up for grabs say the month of November downtown with no extra cops. They would be fucked and nobody would have to go on medical or strike just no special for one month you think you can sacrifice that I doubt it
10/26/2012 09:23:00 AM
I'm in. I have 22 years on. I have never worked a side job or special and never will. Yes I have a family, kids, tuition, mortgage, 3 cars motorcycle and other bills, yet I save and have money to pay my bills and have money to do other things(gamble, dinners, drinks, vacation,ball games, movies etc). My time off is for me and my family, not to work my ass off so I can retire soon and die shortly after. The point is I don't have a problem not working extra, but not every cop is in the same situation.
MG is excited about this. How soon can he sign up.
"...pay us to work on RDO's"
and they even let us work an afternoon shift on our day off which ends three hours before our regular day shift starts---boy are we well rested and ready to go....city has NO safety concern for citizens or officers
These business folks want to keep the riff raff away but refuse to follow up and prosecute when an incident happens
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Think about it. They are in business to make money. Running off the riff raff is cost effective. Spending a lot of time dealing with a criminal justice system that is comepletely broken is not.
I'm in. I have 22 years on. I have never worked a side job or special and never will. Yes I have a family, kids, tuition, mortgage, 3 cars motorcycle and other bills, yet I save and have money to pay my bills and have money to do other things(gamble, dinners, drinks, vacation,ball games, movies etc). My time off is for me and my family, not to work my ass off so I can retire soon and die shortly after. The point is I don't have a problem not working extra, but not every cop is in the same situation.
10/26/2012 11:42:00 PM
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Let me guess....
YOUR WIFE WORKS TOO
Must be nice pal
Move over old timers it's time for da real Police to handle Michigan Ave! Save you war stories for someone that cares. Where do I sign up? Well Hair Gel I plan to move over in less then 2 year and you can keep paying for me. You know when you get jammed up on it your on your own. Also I bet my pension will be better then your because you will have noone else to pay into it. Have a good time dumbass. Going Going and soon to be gone. An Old Timer that waqs a real Cop,
I wish each of the 50 aldermen would ride along in a beat car within their police district on a Friday & Saturday night. Then they could witness first hand how short we really are.
I am only asking you not to work any side jobs for one month that's if you can't afford that your fucked anyway
youguys don't honestly think that the Michigan AVe shops will pay for a large quantity of coppers to work, they will get tired of paying for dog asses who just hang out and won't arrest anyone.
If you think that you would have Rahm by the short hairs if you stopped working Special, you must be a north sider.
Rahm will always protect his favorites there. He will strip districts and units to replace the manpower. Take the money while it is there.
"youguys don't honestly think that the Michigan AVe shops will pay for a large quantity of coppers to work, they will get tired of paying for dog asses who just hang out and won't arrest anyone."
They'll get more tired of paying court OT and settling lawsuits.
They don't want arrests. They want police to make the problems just go away.
I'll do it if they allow me to get my shopping done.
I just adore all the boutiques there.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
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